/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5573954
blame SEAnigger, they keep posting ollie hate thread.

>>5573954
Holy shit! Holo really might sweep the top 15!

Lulu is graduating the day before Coco, the threads then are going to be an absolute shitshow

>>5574114
Should just do a stream relay every day where they pass around the same 30k viewers.

>>5574264

COCO VS LULU GRADUATION NUMBERS, IT'S SHOWTIME FAGGOTS

>>5574326
I truly dont see how Lulu could beat Coco in numbers

>>5574302
Nah. The views for the SMP was strong at 27k even with the relay. 3rd gen minus Flare will also practice MK after the relay. Niji will be lucky to be in the top 25. The Niji Boys including Kuzuha has been playing Street figther for 2hrs now and it is stuck at 17k https://youtu.be/HN4cUkDTk0g

>>5574302
The numbers started at 30k with Botan but it has been fluctuating to from 40k to 50k depending on who is streaming.

>>5574302
Make it atleast weekly. Trends do come and go.

>>5574302
>where they pass around the same 30k viewers.
30k views over what any of them get independently. You can safely take their usual audience, add 25, 30k and get the numbers they're getting in the relay

>>5574542
Like Apex.

>>5574542
>Make it atleast weekly. Trends do come and go.
The whole appeal is the fact it is rare. If it would become a recurring occurrence that would recline massively

>>5574610
Monthly?

>>5574572
Then that means Pekora will get 60-70k as the final stream.

>>5573954
Akukin relay.

>>5574456
Ok, at the end of the day it is still just essentially one stream where the viewers are passed around between all the channels.

>>5574627
Hololive always have something "big" happening every week. A 3D concert. Costume reveal. Big collab. Or something. I have noticed this for a few months now. They are good at scheduling these stuff. Maybe that's why Marine's 3D can only happen this July. It's big in a sense that all girls will give way and not stream.

>>5573954
Let me explain to you why number threads are jewish d&c invention and the reason we need to sage such threads.

>>5574684
Here is the same info, from Holostats

>>5574542
They're playing minecraft.

>>5574760
If there were no fluctuations in numbers sure. If it was consistently 30k then I agree but they don't. Roboco debuffed the stream from 40k to 30k. Then went up to 50k. That's a jump of 20k viewers that aren't sitting around following every one.

>>5574760
>where the viewers are passed around between all the channels.
That's the idea, spreading the wealth and "trickling down" attention from bigger channels (like Miko, Pekora, Marine and Aqua) to smaller channels like iofi, Mel, Aki and Choco

>>5573954
>>5574264
Did they got jealous of the numbers Coco is getting during her graduation tour that they also graduated one of their own?

Moona just passed the relay to Pekora

>>5574760
Niji should do more of these kind of streams to give more exposure to their smaller channels. Just drive up more actvity so that the vtuber gets more opportunities to be seen by audiences that won't watch them otherwise. Simultaneous streaming isn't the same.

>>5574933
Rumours about her graduating soon have been going on for months now

>3 mins. in

>>5574326
Wait! lulu graduate!?when!?

>pekora
>only 500k viewers
It’s over bros

>>5575071
The last time they did this, some disgruntled cat who got left out of the relay made her own stream and stole the viewers. Nijis are fucking lunatics man. They love to cannibalize their own.

>Coco
>graduates with honours after a three week farewell tour with her channel immortalised for as long as hololive exists
>Lulu
>sudden graduation announcement after having been overworked to fainting on stream, will be unpersoned on death
Why is nijisanji such a black company?

>>5575217
30th June. Hold my hand bro

>>5574684
The Zhang buff is real. They were supporting their favorite dumb onion during the akukin relay. Right now they're vandalizing the rivals relay.

>>5574805
also seems like every holo that achieve 1M subs will get a new outfit

>>5574684
this was before or after the so claimed "bug"

>>5575824
Not how things work around here, anon. I'm not sure where you got that information from.

>>5575824
Pekora...

>>5575824
No they get to ask for something to commemorate their 1 million, most of them asked for a live show, only coco asked for a new outfit as far as we know

>>5575824
And a 3D concert. Pekora though. I don't know what is up with her last proposal but I hope she can schedule her own 3D event

Lulu.....FUCKKKKKKKK!

>>5575875
after. 25.01.2021

>>5575973
>>5575977
So this means Pekora's prison outfit is her 1M special? I am disappointed.

>>5575454
lol this holonigger is spamming this every thread to cope with cover bowing to the chinese

>>5575101
I still remember nijibros defending it really hard. I kind of wished that she announced it a month before. This whole Coco graduation treatment seems to me the best send off any can get. A live show and everything. Lots of collabs and time to process the shock.

>>5573954
Should've waited until pekora finished.

>>5576045
its not

VOD views on the relay (remember: there is 30m gap between each stream)

>Botan: 156k
>Kanata: 127k
>Towa: 135k
>Watame: 134k
>Roboco: 113k
>Rushia: 174k
>Coco: 167k
>Polka: 110k
>Miko: 98k
>Mio (feat. Marine): 99k
>Noel: 67k
>Moona: 145k

Moona VOD numbers are absurd for a stream that just finished.
Goes to show the YT live viewers count is complete garbage and are marking all sorts of viewers as "SPAM viewers" lately

>>5576045
I think she would have said that it was if that was the case.

>>5576049
you are not any better trannie

>>5575514
Man what the fuck!? First gibara! Now lulu too!? Why any color do me like this bro..

>>5576244
Why does Noel has small numbers?

>>5576049
>This is how nijiniggers cope about their black company

>>5576244
I think moona's peak view was 45k+

>>5576394
There is a 30 min gap between each stream anon, meaning the closer to the end of the list, the less time has passed.

>>5576459
See >>5574572

>>5576244
how the hell is moona doubling noel viewers?

>>5576244
I don't know man. A view is when a person decides to stay on the stream or vid for at least 30secs. A lot of people jump around streams or even close and open the vid especially if they are watching on their phones. Not unless analytics are shown providing details who watched for the entirety of the vid as opposed to those that did jump, we won't really know.

>>5575379
Ah yes, that dumb retarded cat who has her misfortunes being paraded around by nijifags. No shame.

>>5576244
The japs showed up then realized that moona is a gaijin.

>Hololive already with the first 16 positions of the chart
>Pekora and Marine are going to play Mario Kart in one hour
s-sugoi~

>>5576936
is it finally officially over for manjisanji?

>>5576936
What chart are you talking about guys?

>>5577227
https://vnuma.net/trend/

>>5574572
Is this accurate?
I was in the stream from the end of Botan's stream to Coco's, and I don't know Botan's real numbers is since I just got there when she was finished but I am pretty sure from Kanata to Coco, they got constant 30+k viewers...

Usaken btfoing Akukin
All is good in the world

Yeah we are going to need to bump this thread for abit because the catalogue is going to get flooded

Better numbers, Lulu's graduation or Coco's? Will Lulu's take some steam out of Coco's?

>>5578152
Take a guess, nigger.

>>5578081
holostats number is always the most accurate because they sample it more often.

>>5578152
how is this even a question? lulu is a literal who compared to coco

47k peak for Moona, is that her highest ever? If it is surely it's also a record for Holo ID right?

>>5578425
ID debuts are higher if you count those, other than that then it should be.

>>5578425
Newfag

>>5578615
Would like it if you actually provide some examples

Nijiniggers getting BTFO'd again today. What a great day

>>5578425
ID2 debuts has more i believe

>>5578719
on their debuts

overall the relay is a bit disapinting for me. Peko managed to get a higher peak than the Akukin relay but no one else crossed the 50k mark

>>5573954
I've never seen a mogging of this caliber. A literal clean sweep. The finishing blow. You love to see it. Numberfaggers are eating good tonight.

>>5579360
Miko?

>>5579360
ogey retard

>>5579360
Anon...

>>5579401
manjisanji got a beating so bad that lulu had to graduate out of shame

>>5573954
>>5579401
This is just brutal. If I were Lulu, I'd fucking graduate too.

>>5579415
>>5579425
>>5579484
>forgot to turn on gen0 in holostats
well i am extra retarded today it seems

>>5579360
Miko did. Overall. Pekora's team got over 9 streams with over 40k as opposed to Akukin of 8. Higher number of peak as well since Pekora got 75k. It's technically 7 for Akukin because Aqua streamed twice

Final numbers are in

> 22,621 (avg) / 30,280 (peak) :: Shishiro Botan
> 28,286 (avg) / 34,353 (peak) :: Amane Kanata
> 30,120 (avg) / 35,347 (peak) :: Tokoyami Towa
> 34,130 (avg) / 40,897 (peak) :: Tsunomaki Watame
> 27,300 (avg) / 32,553 (peak) :: Roboco
> 34,469 (avg) / 43,524 (peak) :: Uruha Rushia
> 37,445 (avg) / 43,850 (peak) :: Kiryu Coco
> 32,904 (avg) / 40,504 (peak) :: Omaru Polka
> 43,781 (avg) / 52,177 (peak) :: Sakura Miko
> 41,658 (avg) / 46,886 (peak) :: Ookami Mio
> 38,037 (avg) / 44,718 (peak) :: Shirogane Noel
> 37,066 (avg) / 47,148 (peak) :: Moona Hoshinova
> 64,191 (avg) / 76,921 (peak) :: Usada Pekora:

(weird "name last" format is to allow for neat formatting)

>>5579741
Botan did really well spreading debuffs here.

>>5579741
Akukin numbers

> 34,472 / 41,309 :: Minato Aqua
> 35,001 / 43,458 :: Shiranui Flare
> 39,588 / 46,391 :: Yukihana Lamy
> 32,722 / 38,502 :: Yozora Mel
> 27,307 / 37,912 :: Airani Iofifteen
> ---- / ---- :: Yuzuki Choco
> 34,689 / 50,700 :: Amane Kanata
> 51,902 / 62,492 :: Houshou Marine
> 43,128 / 51,173 :: Momosuzu Nene
> 43,149 / 48,300 :: Ookami Mio
> 32,545 / 37,877 :: Aki Rosenthal
> 54,065 / 65,064 :: Minato Aqua

Holostat spilled their spaghetti on Choco numbers, too lewd for them it seems.
That's the one thing Hololive seems to have figured out better than the rest of the industry

>A rising tide lifts all boats

>>5579911
Maybe Botan got the lowest numbers because she was the opening ceremony?
Like in any events it's always few people first then they'll keep on coming until the end

>>5576244
You are proving more that vod is unreliable

>>5580121
Gotchu anon.
Posted in the previous thread

>>5580121
I wanna see how EN would perform with their own relay next year.
The branch should have fifteen members by then.

>>5580121
Are we able to retrieve which time (JST) Akukin started?

They pulled crazy numbers.

>>5580170
Japs were still at work when Botan streamed

>>5580214
nvm am dumb, don't look at me.
Goes to show what trying to be helpful does

>>5580214
>Choco
Seems like you can't handle Choco sexy noises without getting distracted

>>5580255
18:00 JST according to the thumbnail

>>5580255
>Are we able to retrieve which time (JST) Akukin started?
6PM JST

>>5580250
Wish they just get inducted into the JP server for the collabs, but then again that server is probably really laggy to play on for them and there are really very few projects to work on.

>>5580429
>Wish they just get inducted into the JP server for the collabs
It truly looks like Gura, Ina and Calli have ZERO interest in Micra, while Amelia got a taste for it initially then slowed down for lack of company and Kiara ... I don't really know because she was interested but doesn't seem to take advantage of being Usaken
>lag maybe?

>>5579597
Kekek

>>5580551
I think Gen 2 will revitalize things a bit. Man I can't imagine how the dynamics will change with 5 more girls in EN

>>5580551
Yeah that too. Though inducting to the JP server would be good for the people who don't want to play much MC, they just build a house and leave. I think the new server is probably really good for someone like Ame who likes to build new tech. JP is all farmed up that it's gonna be difficult to do any meaningful solo progress.

>>5580388
>>5580409
Oh yeah, I just realized, thanks. So that's the 1 hour stream. Timeslot really matters for Hololive. Even Kanata couldn't reach the previous peak.

>>5580770
>I think Gen 2 will revitalize things a bit.
It may be, it may not be. ID2 didn't show any interest in MC other than sometimes Reine.

>>5580121
we don't have holostat numbers but >>5574684
got Choco at 37k

>>5580780
>Even Kanata couldn't reach the previous peak.
Again, that's mostly because Akukin was in peak "Kensetsu Wars" and everybody was tuned in to see where "the spy" would land in the hiring bid.

Also Akukin got a SSR cast there
>Iofi
>Mel
>Choco
>Aki
Girls that didn't stream MC often and that would not stream again for the longest time. Did Iofi even returned to the server after that?

Did anyone keep track of the HoloAlt PV numbers? Just to compare with all the other releases.

>>5579741
>>5580121

So if you would look by total average and median Akukin pulled higher numbers. Ofc Choco's numbers could change that.

Nijiniggers don’t come to these threads anymore do they?

>>5580929
Cope

>>5581118
Nah they're here. They don't have quite the numbers to compare right now though unless they want to bring up Touya being 18th in the list.
Also Lulu is graduating so that is probably more important right now.
We might get a few falsflaggers though. Kpop anon and Dream anon might visit. Who knows.

>>5580882
It's me.

Good point. I also think the Akukin "HQ" had more impact and interest than that festival shrine or whatever that is called.

More numbers on the festival day would likely be expected.

We should compare it to Sport's Festival last year.

>>5581118
only those that like being abused

>>5581262
Guess you are right. They were quite noisy when Kuzuha was getting numbers.

>>5580882
>Also Akukin got a SSR cast there
>List of girls that had the lowest numbers
is this irony? i am really burned out today so my brain isnt working all that well anymore
fuck i am probably respotid to some shitposting bait aren't i?

>>5580929
Averaging here is "muggles math" because the events didn't happen in the same "time range", with the first few events of one starting way earlier than the other.

Even then the averages are really close. If you give Choco the same numbers of Iofi (the peak seems to be the same on that screenshot) the average of averages is

> 37900 :: Akukin
> 36300 :: Usaken

The effect here is the same they use to push tthat bullshit "gender pay gap" theory where
>having more people in the lower brackets (while also having more people overall) drags the whole average down

If you remove Botan stream (that makes for 13 streams for Usaken vs. 12 for Akukin) the averages become

> 37900 :: Akukin
> 37500 :: Usaken

Meaning they did approx. the same in their respective relays, which is expected because Hololive have a very non tribalistic audience (with regards to intracompany talent)

>>5581458
>muggles don't know what SSR stands for
You truly need to do your gacha and card game reps anon.

>>5581584
>spending money on gacha instead of merch or my oshi
nah. unless we get another collab event with some gacha game i don't think i will do that

>>5581204
STFU no need for me to cope.

>>5581584
A-anon?,!

>>5580915
staggering at 5 mil. actually has really low replaying value due to it being a short ver and very generic song,

>>5581702
>>5581710
R = Rare in this case, the more S behind that R the more rare. It has nothing to do with merit or worth, only rarity.

>>5581488
What would you use instead? Either way both kensetsus did great.

>>5581752
>actually has really low replaying value due to it being a short ver
Actually I myself (and I believe many people) ended up watching it multiple times to try to watch the 10 to 20 frames their oshis and other girls they like appear.

>>5581752
I'm mostly curious about the time it took to reach 1 mil to compare with the rest of the songs.
Though yeah, the music is not really that great. I respect the decision of using Calli for branch solidarity or whatever but she is just not the best choice for that song technically.
I did give it a few watches because the art is good.

>>5581790
They're not really events that can be compared numerically, it's like trying to compete an Indy race with a F1 one. You could try to compare top speed, avg speed, race time but it doesn't make sense because the circumstances are different.

You are right that both did right tho, that second avg (12 last legs of each relay) shows they did more or less the same with regards to audience.

One thing that most people miss is that the Akukin got an EOP boost with an official mod Reddit announcement having been made back for the Akukin relay and the ID2 debut a couple of weeks prior boosting the SEA interest

>>5581852
>>5581894
the mv is indeed where mostly the replays came from. it is still a very good number tho. if we compare it to fgo cms which got around 2-4 mil for 30 sec mv, holo alt mv actually does really well.

>Gura is at 2.92M subscribers
The song buff is real

>>5577507
>spoonfeeding

>>5582602
song buff is always real. suzy gone to surpass subaru on the race to 1 mil thanks to getcha.

>>5582602
>Gura is at 2.92M subscribers
>>5582728
>suzy gone to surpass subaru on the race to 1 mil
*checks Holostats*
Damn, both checks out. Subaru got that "dancing duck meme" buff for a while but Suisei surely mounted a comeback by both not squandering her "Hi Honey" buff and getting a song buff with a HoloEN to boot.

>>5582728
I hope she gets 1M on her 3D with Nene. I only listened to Getcha for 30secs. Just so that it will count as a view. I hate the song

>>5583130
Shuba needs to release a new song. I want my idol duck please.
That reminds me, I wish they released an official yt vid for Hacha Mecha.

>>5583130
It's not exactly the mv that drove her there. Her karaoke streams has been regularly getting more and more viewers. Last time was at 30k views.

>>5583302
I thought she is working on an original song.

>>5583321
37k, actually.

>>5583321
That's the "not squandering her 'hi honey' buff" part. Suisei is absurdly talented specially with regards to singing and all she needs is "correct exposure".
Lots of girls get buffs for being in reddit tier memes but then all that newly acquired audience expects is for "Eekum Bokum" (x21) and they eventually leave.
Suisei got lucky her "breakthrough meme" was due to her sexy new voice.and she capitalized with her singing streams showcasing exactly that.

>>5583321
Anon, regular streams don't just randomly get viewer boosts out of nowhere. Clearly her music releases and the couple of meme moments she got were influential in her Karaokes picking up steam.

>>5583242
i think that's asking a little bit too much. gonna be very happy to be proven wrong tho.

>>5583375
Well that is good news. Naisu.

>They had to ask pochi to saviorfag for anya
>STILL doesnt work
After gura, kojima and now this is there anything that can help her?

>>5583583
She got 35k viewers on her Karaoke stream 8 days prior to releasing that MV. And has been getting a minimum of 10k veiwers. Most of the time at 15k. All before the Getcha thing. You don't watch her if you don't know this.

>>5582676
Numberthread spoonfeeds a lot since anons need to provide sources to back up their formulas.

>>5583803
She need to stop being a stuck up bitch first.
If she's not enjoyable to watch then not even Hololive can help her.
Anyway. Where are the faggots yesterday doubting my prediction. 30k across the board baby.

>>5583803
>>5584054
>She need to stop being a stuck up bitch first.
Her growth rate in similar to Iofi and Risu on the HoloID side, it's nothing particular with them except
>they spend too much time in their "bahasa" bubble

>>5584054
>doubting my prediction. 30k across the board baby.
Did anyone at all doubted that and assumed it would be lower?

>>5583943
>reading comprehension

>>5583581
The Hi Honey thing did not give her a buff. She was actually pulling 15k viewers prior to that. Because she just did a 3D concert. Wont 1st place in the MK tournament. If anything, her streams staggered after that meme. It slowed to 9k. It picked up when she did another Karaoke, and then tetris and then hitman.

>>5583321
>>5583943
sorry if it's sounds like downplaying suzy's hard work to got there, but the discussion starts from popular song release buffing sub counts.

>>5584343
It's your reading comprehension that needs work. My point is, the MV nor the Meme did jack shit.

>>5584344
You and I are talking about different numbers, it seems. The original subject was "she'll hit 1M subs before Subaru" and you are talking about live viewers

Jesus Gura is a fucking monster

>>5583130
Damn they were tied for a while but Suisei took inspiration from Ina prevailed.

>>5584526
Here is proof. The MV was released on the 15th. She got 4k on that day. Which she normally gets on some days anyways. She was on the trajectory to get 1M. If you want to know what is an actual jump. It's Haachama and her schizo lore. She jumped way ahead.

>>5584879
June 21st and 22nd was her Karaoke and Shiranui collab

>>5584995
>>5584879
The other 3Ks on 18 and 19 were her collab with Pekora and Nene and another Shiranui collab.

>>5579741
So not counting the finale since that was always going to get the most viewers whether it was Pekora or not, Miko had the most.

FUCK YEAH MIKO!!!!

>>5584879
>>5584995
>>5585116
Here is more numbers. As you can see here, her numbers jumps on specific days. And they are usually when she does a karaoke.

>>5583130
I wonder if Suisei or Subaru are numberfags. Who will be the most happy about it?

>>5585466
Suisei probably. She wanted to be in this idol-like business and she seems to be hungrier for it.
Subaru seems to be more mellow about it.

>>5584729
By pure momentum will she get to 4 million before Pecker or Dog get 2 million?

>>5585466
Suisei is a huge numberfag. She stated from the very beginning that one of her main goals was to reach 1 million subscribers.

>>5585513
She has it as a rolling banner on her stream. 1000k subscribers. It's not bad to be a numberfag in her case because we usually get a big treat when she hits her milestones like 3D concerts.

>>5584879
I stand corrected. Just checked the subs growth chart looking for the inflexion point and it was
>April 12
Then checked what happened that day for Suisei and it was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajwv4ANSSg0
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKKar5SS29E

Numbers don't lie, I had no idea of what I would find at the day her growth chart started the current incline and I found that, a 67k peak live viewers stream.

>>5585466
Suisei but no numberfag would care about a couple of days difference between her and a colleague
>looks at the general direction of Kiara

Today's Numbers

>>5582602
>>5583130
>>5584729
the scary part about this is that Gura essentially sleepwalked her way here. She's never pushed for her numbers or done endurance streams or the like, and has in fact done several things that if any other chuuba did would've significantly curtailed their growth. Her releasing her original song is the first time since October that she's done anything to actively accelerate her growth. Imagine how powerful she would be if she actually pushed for her numbers

>>5585894
Miko is having a fantastic month and is putting up huge numbers. As a 35p I'm so happy for her. She has always been popular but she has really shot up this month.

>>5585894
>That Moona performance
Omoshiroi!

>>5585894
is fuwa actually inclining or is it that the buff from the 3d debut hasn't worn off yet? real question btw.

>>5585937
>Imagine how powerful she would be if she actually pushed for her numbers
She, like Fubuki, do things to ACTIVELY NERF their growth for some reason.
I don't think either wants the pressure of being the "face of Hololive" (for what numberfags are concerned).

It's one of those situations where
>those who have it don't want it
>those who want it don't have it

>>5585506
Assuming her growth and Pekora’s growth stay the same? Yes, absolutely. Pekora would gain around 42k subs in the time it would take Gura to take a million, and that's just enough to push her over the edge

>>5585894
That chart is even worse for niji lol. Kuzuha (and friends) on 19, Minato on 21, Lulu 22 and Kanae 25.
Charts should normalize tomorrow though.

>>5585957
>but she has really shot up this month.
What buffed her in your opinion?

>>5586053
>>5585506
It's probably not gonna stay that strong after the bday/song buff. Though who knows, we have EN anniv in a few months.

>>5585506
I think so, unless some bad happens on Gura's end (long break ect). Korone has a lot of personal issues and never played into the English-speaking memery that EOPs initially flocked to her for. Pekora still gets great live views but her sub growth has come back down to earth, only 10k more than pedestrian Holos like Kanata, Rushia, and Ayame for the month. She's exhausted a lot of the pool of people who might be potential subscribers. Excitement over EN 2 is also gonna get Gura a lot of incidental subs, while Pekora and Korone have nothing big coming up as far as I know.

>>5586053
I assume you mean 420k.

The day is already over and a new day begin with two massive streams already
>Pekora, Rushia, Marine and Noel collab

>>5586211
Yes, sorry

>>5586067
3rd and 4th gen will have an MK tournament tomorrow as well as a 3D karaoke for Nene and Suisei.

>>5585894
Apexsanji is finally dead. But this, this hololive minecraft central needs to be stopped.

>>5585894
Feels weird seeing a HoloID up there. Not that i mind, i like Moona.

>>5586093
Lots of collabs with ShiranuiKen and lots of Minecraft since they are prepping for the festival. However, even her non-minecraft streams have been popping off. She got 25k for Horse Pussy and she had the highest viewers in the AmongUs collab, even more than Marine, Coco, and Korone.

>>5586427
Hololive is only going crazy on Minecraft because of the upcoming festival. It will slow down once the festival is over.

>>5586496
>highest viewers in the AmongUs collab, even more than Marine, Coco, and Korone.
Her AmongUS perspective is always the funniest of them all

>>5586427
Bro, it's like watching an anime.

>>5586427
There is a summer festival in a few days. So I don't know about that. Maybe this July they will slow down their MC streams.

>>5584423
>tfw distracted with the Windows 11 announcement
Anon, you're the one watching religiously, but I'm the one paying attention to the numbers (I also watch her karaokes, which is what matters to me the most about many Holos). I pointed out that her music releases and meme moments, as in plural. I never specified that it was because of Getcha and Honey virus, because those aren't even the only things that Suisei does that have have spread on on the Internet --they just happen to be the ones that got the most attention recently.

>>5586723
Again; HoloPro does an awesome job keeping the calendar filled with big events. Isn’t a Marine hosted live feat 4gen concert coming?

>>5586677
Really hope that guy who translates a whole 2 hour+ MC sports festival would translate usaken summer festival too

>>5586912
3rd gen, I obviously mean

>>5586939
>he needs subtitles
>he watches dubbed anime

>>5586427
Pretty much >>5586677. Minecraft is not played because it is an addicting game (which may be for the autismo-prone). It is played because it is a vehicle for the Holos to make stories with little effort.

>>5586909
This dude already pointed when she exactly started inclining. >>5585692
It's her Ghost concert. The whole MK tournament was also a big boost. Her meme never increased or boosted her number. It never fluctuated except when she's in a collab or doing karaokes. The most that Getcha gave her is 2k subs. Your aren't paying attention to anything.

>>5586958
>>5586912
Ayup, and Noel is doing one on the 26th too.

>>5587151
You forgot that Tamaki collab. I followed most of her karaokes and she never did reach 30k+ viewers. Most of it was around 23-28k. Now she gets 30k+ consistently after that collab.

>>5587151
You and him are full of shit considering that her Karaokes have been peaking above 25k as far back as 6 months ago, and that's just off the top of my head. Maybe what I should be saying is "clips" when I speak of "meme moments" since that seems to rustle you jimmies.

>>5587317
I would give that more credit than the memes. It did boost her. About 5k new live viewers.

>>5587661
>her Karaokes have been peaking above 25k as far back
Anon, the conversation is about subs and her road to 1M. Why the fuck are you bringing live views?

>>5587661
It's consistently 25k live viewers. Now she reached 37k which is basically 12k viewers more. Her viewership never changed or improved after streaming duolingo. It stagnated. It only improved when she did other things. You are full of shit of you think the clips boosted her. She has moved on to the other stream formats long after the meme died.

>>5587661
Her increase in live viewers during karaokes above 30k started after her stream with Tamaki which was not clipped or memed. Imagine that.

>>5587661
>>5587908
Lots of words without numbers to back them up in a number thread. See >>5585692, just whip out the numbers to back your words

>>5587758
There's like three separate conversations going on about Suisei at the same time. Someone pointed out that her Getcha cover and Hi honey boosted her growth, someone else pointed that that didn't do shit, and I pointed out that growth doesn't come from nothing and pointed people to her music releases and particular events that have been clipped and then suddenly people started sperging out. At some point people mentioned live performance, which is why I spoke about it.

There is a direct correlation between live performance, sub growth and VOD views.

>>5588154
You must be retarded. You can check it yourself https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/suisei

>>5588154
>music releases
Literally what I mentioned way back >>5583583 but you keep sperging like a chimp.

>>5588164
What I am pointing out is that Getcha only ga e her 2k additional subs. Hi Honeu did not do anything. Her numbers never fluctuated. Her subscriptions increases or even doubles when she has a karaoke. And of course the jump in her Karaoke jumped above 30k when she collabed with Tamaki which was not clipped or memed.

>>5588164
Getcha gave her 2k subs. You can can check the thread for that. Hi Honey did not give her any increase. It is already shown above that the increase in subs happens most during her Karaokes. Her Karaoke live views increased above 30K after the Tamaki collab. The Tamaki collab was not clipped nor memed.

>>5588164
From what I've seen it's mostly that she's been streaming A Lot, like more than usual, with the Usaken minecraft collabs, more long Apex streams, singing and sponsored content and still her regular game streams. She's been regularly colalbing with more people too which increased her range.
That excitement of always seeing her online and energetic this month is what i think was the biggest boost though all the rest contributed too.
Also, it's the same thing Marine and Noel did for their final push to 1 million.

Fighting over reason of suzy's growth instead of the usual niji/holo or gura/peko tribalshit. You love to see it

>>5588574
At least it's an actual numbers discussion instead of false-flagging and tribalfaggotry.

>>5588574
>instead of the usual niji/holo or gura/peko tribalshit
That’s just a couple of retards being trolls trolling trolls

The superchat ranking is going to look very strange today since hardly any of the holos did solo streams, I'm interested to see who will be on there

>>5588800
Gura talked about her first song release.
Luna did a 600k endurance stream.
I think these two will make it into the top ten, not sure about the rest.

I wonder if there is any numberfag keeping tabs on ads and endorsements. Botan surely broadened the range of offers that they can get

>>5588959
Lulu definitely since it was her birthday and, well, you know...

>>5588721
Mixed with an actual easily triggered fags. It's always a sight to behold

>>5589117
What’s the story with her graduation?

>>5585957
As a 35P, I'm happy as well, but the thing is with this good viewers numbers Miko seems to be getting less superchats this month because she's been in a lot of collabs lately (no one superchatted in those because there's no superchat reading) and had to take a week break earlier this month because she was sick. I'm also worried that she won't be in that GinenTV most viewed chart this month because she's streaming less hours than usual.

>>5589117
Here's what I got from playboard. Gura got like $5k on her stream today.

>>5589460
Sorry. Image didn't attach. Lulu got 13k

>>5589305
She hasn't said any reasons why yet but people here were speculating about it happening for a little while so there's been rumours, hopefully she'll tell us something at least
>>5589496
It's only the 4th time she's gone over 10k which is a little surprising given how popular and relatively unicorn friendly she is

>>5589305
She will tell the exact reason on her graduation stream on the 30th

>>5589664
I mean, she will share the reasons that she's comfortable to disclose.

>>5589664
>She will tell the exact reason on her graduation stream on the 30th
That’s odd.

>>5589645
Isn't she a former idol too?

>>5588574
All the tribal fags are out in the lulu threads trying to rub it in so it should be peaceful here for awhile

>>5589645
I've been following her for a year now and, a lot of times she didn't even have SCs enabled.
Plus, her stream atmosphere is a mix of Korone and Watame, on an even lower end. People don't donate during the game so they don't distract her and they mostly chill in the chat.
+Nijisanji fans keep their money for special events instead of donating regularly.

REFLECT update: 2.95M views @ 3:30pm EDT

For those interested in keeping track. YouTube updates the counter every 5min. The growth rate seems steady at around 5,000 views every 10 minutes.

>>5590727
>5,000
correction: 3,000 views every 10 minutes

>>5590216
As special events don't exactly happen often, this is reflected on overall SCs earnings by Nijisanji livers.

>>5585894
Proud of you Moona Sachou!

>>5585894
Mori's 28k karaoke was pretty impressive, too bad shes done it on the worst day possible

>>5590974
That's 432k / day.
The view rate will keep decreasing until it stabilizes after the 4th week.

>>5588154
>Lots of words without numbers to back them up in a number thread.

>>5588226
>You must be retarded. You can check it yourself https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/suisei
>>5588336
>Literally what I mentioned way back >>5583583 but you keep sperging like a chimp.
Here retards, here is what I mean by
>using numbers instead of words in a fucking number threads

Pic related contains every stream by Suisei since 2020-06-07 (when Holostats started recording daily averages) plus
>last 15 streams average
>overall trendline (as good as the global average as it's prettu much flat)

With that it is much easier to see Suisei inclines and declines. It turns out
>****** DRUMROLL******
This anon right here is right: >>5583321, IT DEFINITELY IS HER SINGING STREAMS driving up her live viewership. Here are her 9 most watched streams in 2021, all part of the 15 most viewed streams since Holostats keep records

(In cronological order)

The "joke redebut after demonetization" stream
>【初配信】ホロライブSP(スペース)00期生です!【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KTDR2frhLk

Post Mario Kart victory collab with lots of girls
>【#実況代理人】大声が出せないので、実況代理を依頼してみた【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t22zt7kgva0

Singing
>【歌枠】singing【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
Birthday
>【凸待ち+お知らせ】お誕生日&デビュー3周年!絶対に祝われたい女【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPz4lrkarZ0
Live
>【3DLIVE】SPACE for Virtual GHOST【#星街すいせい3周年LIVE】

Singing
>【歌枠】SINGING STREAM volumeUPver.【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】

Singing
>【歌枠】SINGING STREAM / ~明日から6月だぜ~【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】

Singing
>【歌枠】うたいたいきぶんでした【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】

Singing
>【歌枠】SINGING STREAM【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】

It turns out people knows a lot more about their oshi than numberfag retards. Sorry for doubting you anon
>I kneel

Three things
1) This chart shows Youtube giving a global live viewer debuff starting between December 2020 and January 2021. Suisei didn't recline, it was Susan debuffing everybody
2) Source for the data is Holostats. I cobbled together a script to dl all data they had on Suisei, I can adapt it to any girl now.
>NOW I HAVE A MACHINE GUN! HO HO HO
3) Any girl you guys want to be looked at with the same methodology next?
4) If you recognize the chart and analysis style SHUSH!

>>5585506
It will be coped with by 'EN being a larger default market'. Its a good cope, but still a cope.

Number will be raised as needed. "Gura needs 3x my oshii's subs to be comparable because EN market size""4x""5x"6x" etc...

>>5594592
Here is Pekora too, she operates in another fucking universe
>all around average is fucking 25k live viewers
Her "coming out to Pekomom as a VTuber" got 100k AVERAGE live viewers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2t52ps27s

Here is her top 15 most live viewed, won't bother translating or linking it, EOP need not apply

>【カミングアウト】ママにVtuberやってるって言う!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【Minecraft】ムーナと一緒に兎田建設事務所を作るぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら・Moona Hoshinova】
>【牢屋から】緊急生放送ぺこ!!!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【#うさ建ステージリレー】ついに完成!!!お披露目ぺこおおおおお!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【プリコネR】つよつよ新キャラ登場!?これから始めるマリンちゃんと!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら・宝鐘マリン】
>【#兎田ぺこら生誕祭】3DでHappyBirthDay!!!みんなでお祝いするぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【歌枠】みんなおひさし!!!!!!!!!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【Minecraft】ウサ建公開面接ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【Minecraft】ぺこダム改造!!新たなる武器を装備せよ!!!と思いきや...ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【Minecraft】深夜のクラフトisマインぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>#本当に最終回【FF10】生まれてはじめてのファイナルファンタジーぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【Minecraft】みんなでエンドシティを探索ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>ホロライブ秋の大運動会!赤Aチーム視点【#ホロライブ運動会 / Minecraft】
>【#兎田ぺこら3D】失神注意!罰ゲームでVRホラーをすることになったぺこ…!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>【Minecraft】起きたら家が炎上してましたぺこ【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】

This last one is the closing of the relay, a top15 most live viewed for her. That one doesn't even impresses me tho, the FF10 one in the top15 most live viewed do because it is very niche.

>>5590727
6:00 PM EDT update: Gura's REFLECT sits at 2.99M views. It has been 84 hours since release.

>>5595146
If you really weren't an EOP you'd know that FF10 is absolutely huge in Japan and incredibly close to 7 as the most culturally iconic entry in the series

>>5595586
Anon, knowing a language doesn't necessarily translates into knowing the intricacies of the preferences of the population of said country. I knew FFVII was massive (enough to get a remake) but didn't really know about FF10 because I don't really play vidya

>>5580121
it always seemed weird to me that there was all this tribalism between vtuber companies

surely there's millions of people out there who barely even know of vtubers as a concept, so holo or niji inclining should somewhat lift the other companies as well. they're competitors, but it's not like they're playing a zero sum game yet

>>5595674
>they're competitors, but it's not like they're playing a zero sum game yet
They're not and "tribalism" is a chan meme. As you said, many (if not most) people don't even know "vtuber company" is a thing, they start knowing Eekum Bokum girl or Dancing Duck meme girl and only a few filter down enough to learn about the whole ensemble, let alone to know there are multiple companies supposedly competing for the same market.

>>5595649
Anon, if there ever was something that would have automatically understood from number fagging is whether or not something is popular in a market, language or cultural awareness aside.

>>5595771
That's easy ot say after the fact, didn't prevent me from being surprised from seeing it there given that i had no idea

>>5586042
garlic phone buff, and his last two streams were a rare guitar utawaku and his first home3D.

Man this is fucked, but I'm curious to see what Lulu's numbers for her upcoming streams are leading to her graduation. She was actually kinda close to Coco's average viewership (for games), so I wonder if we'll see some 20-30k+ streams from her in the next week despite her lower subcount.

Something that's always interested me about Niji's numbers is how high their engagement on twitter is relative to Holo's despite MUCH lower twitter follower count.

Just compare Lulu's graduation tweet's Likes with Coco's graduation tweet's Likes.
https://twitter.com/lulu_suzuhara/status/1408063752755286025
https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1402474505235169281

As of this moment, Lulu is at 113k likes in 8 hours, while Coco's stopped at 163k. Lulu has 278k followers, so unless half of her followers liked this tweet or there's a lot of Niji tourists who liked it but didn't sub. I feel like Lulu's graduation tweet will probably stop at around 140k after 24 hours, which is insane that it's only 23k behind Coco's despite having 500k less twitter followers.
Another one that comes to mind is Minato's 3D debut tweet which had 77k likes, which is more than Korone's 1 mil celebration tweet despite Korone having 500k more followers.
Has anyone seen similar anomalies with NijiJP's twitter numbers?

>>5595649
Fair enough but yeah it's a huge buff for Jap viewers, especially those in their 20s and 30s (75% of her audience according to the survey she did) who played it as a kid and are now nostalgic for it. Famitsu readers voted it as the best game of all time btw, that's how much they love it.

>>5596053
Until her break back in winter, Lulu was the most consistent Niji member viewer wise.
Just like Watame, every day, every stream 10k viewers always.
One thing I've seen is that JP watchers, especially from Nijisanji don't do the "like, comment, subscribe, retweet thing" that EN viewers have been conditioned to do, but they do gather for events. So there will probably be a lot of people all across the Nijisanji fanbase in Lulu's next few streams.

>>5596053
I don't really get the point of "liking" a graduation announcement tweet. Why would someone who is a fan do that? I could see antis perhaps.

>>5596053
Also forgot to add that within 8 hours,Lulu's tweet has
54.9k retweets, 3245 quote tweets, 115.2k likes
Coco's tweet had:
43.8k retweets, 2217 quote tweets, and 163k likes

So more way more people have retweeted and quote tweeted Lulu's graduation tweet in much shorter time despite her having 500k less twitter followers than Coco.

Some explanations I can think of are:
- a lot of NijiJP's fanbase only care about big events like 3D debuts or graduations and not daily livestreams
- EOP Holofans don't quote-tweet, retweet, or like JP tweets since they can't read them, but follow anyways

>>5596318
I see. Lulu's stream won't be archived on her channel either so there's an added feeling of finality to it, which may lead to a bigger graduation buff.

>>5596676
Kinda morbid, but the feeling is like paying your respects I guess. Happens a lot with public figures who die too. I think Chadwick Boseman's death tweet is the most liked tweet on twitter.

>>5596776
>the most liked tweet on twitter.
Facebook added meaningful "likes" (with happy face, sad face, puking face, etc) to address that exact problem

>>5596676
On Twitter likes don't always mean endorsements. Sad announcements get tons of likes. Artists I follow like tweets from their Oshi as well, no matter if it's happy or sad.
>>5596053
It's 'tourists', people who like Lulu but don't follow her. Same with Fuwa. Everyone wants to see a spectacle but they don't care enough about the daily happenings or streams so they won't follow.

>>5595417
Crap... I missed it! This is a snapshot of 6:45pm where she got 3.001M views. It seems she got the 3M registered at 6:35pm EDT.

>>5596805
>It's 'tourists', people who like Lulu but don't follow her. Same with Fuwa. Everyone wants to see a spectacle but they don't care enough about the daily happenings or streams so they won't follow.
Ya I think so too. There's actually a really big difference in fanbase culture for Holo and Niji. Holofans take the like/subscribe/comment thing to the extreme with the youtube videos, while Nijifans don't seem to care for regular streams. Definitely helps Holos a lot for the youtube algo.
Quick Example: I took the most recent non-hype Roboco stream and Kuzuha's latest Apex stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0fY08nlwg4 9.8k likes (lol I don't even think 9k people watched the livestream)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFgGuqlCP4 7.4k likes
Somehow Roboco, one of the more unpopular holos, has more likes on her stream VOD than Kuzuha, the most popular Niji, despite Kuzuha having like literally 20k more live viewers than Roboco for that stream.

When Coco announced her graduation, she got 200k+ subs in a week and 100k twitter followers. Lulu has gotten 4k new subs so far, despite her graduation tweet getting insane engagement levels for her size. The "tourist" hypothesis seems more and more likely.

>>5585937
I mean that's only if you don't consider her very consistently playing FOTM and buff games an accelerant.

>>5596053
It's not an anomaly. JP just likes to use twitter.

>>5597201
Anon, Gura's game selection is sus af if she wants to numberfag. If she wanted to get 30k streams consistently, she'll just spam rhythm games, minecraft, FOTM horror games like Night Delivery, and drop games once they do poorly like DMC3. I don't think Gura is really as much as a trendchaser as most of HoloJP. Her gaming mechanics are actually pretty awful so when she streams games that require some like MH or FPS shooters, it's actually a debuff because the gameplay is kinda unwatchably bad.

>>5597472
I mean especially in the first few months that was basically what she was doing.

>>5597164
I don't watch enough Hololive so feel free to back me up but the streamers within it seem to talk amongst each other on stream and off stream, even between branches, where in Nijisanji some people don't even know NijiEN's names

>>5597442
Wouldn't it be consistent for both NijiJP and HoloJP if JP likes to use twitter a lot? If they like using twitter, why aren't they following Niji livers? They have lower followers counts across the board compared to Holos.
Even if we assume a lot of holoJP's followers are EOP who just follow, you would assume a 1 mil sub celebration post from an 800k following to get more attention than a 3D debut tweet from a 330k following right?

Also, HoloEN gets way more engagement than HoloJP too. Ame and Gura shitposts and Ina's art posts doing really good numbers.

>>5596053
>so I wonder if we'll see some 20-30k+ streams from her in the next week despite her lower subcount.
nah, shes not that important in the JP scene.
Gibara's last streams. She's one of the most popular nijis.
https://vnuma.net/streamer/monthly-history/1ae5e2b84b3149238170d4bc9dcfcd73/2021-03

>>5594592
>>5595146
Where's you get this graph?

>>5597472
To be fair, she knows what games work, but I don't necessarily think she's tryharding the system

She just gravitates more towards rythym and horror games and have openly said that Visual Novels are boring to play and to watch.

So her interests just fall within what the algo likes. I mean her decades long experience in making internet content probably helps too.

>>5598164
>said that Visual Novels are boring to play and to watch.
She has also made passing joke about "not reading", so it's likely that she doesn't like the format in the first place. Then again, she will be stuck with that for some of the games that they would be forced to play because of sponsorships.

>>5597839
i think theres also a fact that female viewers tend to use twitter more actively than males
some nijis like mayuzumi, kenmochi or akina have more followers on twitter than subscribers on youtube

>>5599473
Some girls have an addiction with Twitter.
For example I remember how Fubuki has tweeted more than all of Gen 3 combined.

>>5599473
That makes no sense to me, half of their tweets are dedicated to tweeting about their streams.

>>5599473
Ya Kenmochi gets pretty insane twitter engagement too for only having like 300k followers.
I distinctly remember Minato tweeting out that he's joining the NijiApex tournament with Mafumafu and Amatsuki and it got like 45k twitter likes with many retweets. On the day of the NijiApex tournament, he was only getting like 5k viewers on his stream. Smh JP Nijifans didn't show up to support their livers' streams despite the hype.

>>5599611
desu it might be a double edged sword for someone to tweet like 15 tweets a day. Their more important tweets get buried by a mountain of retweeted fanart or random shitposts.

>>5596776
>EOP Holofans
yeah, Twitter is very popular in Japan while it's been declining severely in the west.
Especially since the subreddit became active, I'm getting the impression that way more EOP Holo fans just use that and never go on twitter.

>>5599662
so whats the point of subscribing to them on youtube, if they announce and link everything on twitter anyway?

>>5599863
The subreddit is kind of shit for newcomers due to the karma requirement so discord is getting those other people. Its also the reason why there's lot of newfags here.

>>5600037
To show support? If you like someone enough to be spammed with their links every day wouldn't you sub on Youtube for milestone celebrations?

>>5600037
They're streamers, so content creators. I'm not sure how you content create on a platform like twitter with a 120 chara limit apart from announcements and shitposts.
If you're a youtuber, I don't think it's a good thing if you have more twitter followers than youtube subs actually. Doesn't that mean people are more interested in your shitposts and fanart than your actual content?

Some additional numbers to compare the two Minecraft Relays.

>>5600239
Um, you are aware that Vtweeters were more prevalent than Vtubers on the EN side for a while right?

>>5600369
This isn't a discussion about EN though.

>>5600369
Vtweeters are a meme and mocked for a reason, even for the EN side, people don't consider them real vtubers. And comparing a professional JP vtuber hired by one of the biggest vtuber agencies in the world to some 1000 follower nobody ENVtweeter is a sad comparison.

>>5600096
Not that I can blame the mods there - when roommate posting became a thing, retards kept spamming the subreddit with it

>>5600098
true, but by following twitter and twitter only you will not really miss out on any of their streams, content, or anything of an importance, but when following exclusively youtube, you might miss some their twitter interactions, some announcements and such.
its just makes sense to me. twitter is easy to navigate and can give tourists a quick rundown on vtuber's current stuff, and also gives devoted fans a better picture of vtuber activites outside of streaming.
i personally use tweetdeck to check on every single chuuba i have an interest in and only use youtube sub button, as you said, to show support for milestones and member posts of my absolute favorites

speaking of mayuzumi, decent amount of his tweets are either extension of his content or simply great shitposts.

but i cant really explain why someone like lulu has 0.5 twitter/youtube ratio and then lets say akina or some lesser nijifemale like natsume has >1

>>5600981
I understand Twitter is important, but the platform you'll be seeing the most of their skill is Youtube. Browsing Akina's twitter, it doesn't seem like an account that non-watchers would be interested in. Maybe it's Meschers fans who don't care about his content and only collabs or something.

Today's superchats

>>5602555
lulu, we all know why
dola unveiled her new outfit and hit 100k
tomoe is still getting supas from her 3D waiting room

>>5603065
>tomoe is still getting supas from her 3D waiting room
It's about to hit 19k and the stream is still 10 hours away holy crap

>>5603399
interesting. i dont really check on waiting rooms but i doubt any of them had ever reached such numbers

>>5603399
she could very well hit top 3 3D stream in supers if the big hitters are waiting to unload when it actually happens

>>5580170
I thought he meant that Botan spread out the people that pull in the least viewers so it never dipped hard.

>>5604510
whats the record for female 3d debuts? 50k or so, i believe? probably either nene or coco, im too lazy to check. that much is beatable. not sure about akina's ~75k.

luna is inclining

>>5604743
Sio - $61k
Nene - $51k
Coco - $49k
Kanata - $47k
Flare - $43k
Sana - $39k
Lamy - $39k
Gibara - $37k
Sara - $37k
Kana - $36k
Suisei - $36k

>>5583302
Well she is in NEGI U now. It might not be something to hit 1M with but she should be upping her idol game. They've all been talking about their group dance practice.

>>5600273
Aqua is so shit compared to my oshi. Feels good.

>>5604743
niji NUMBERS
Nijisanji 3D Debut

2020
Otogibara Era 01/08 52,685 ¥3,899,908
Lize Helesta 01/22 60,200 ¥2,953,193
Ange Katrina 02/10 67,985 ¥3,861,854
Yashiro Kizuku 02/17 57,519 ¥1,178,735
Gundou Mirei 02/20 46,149 ¥1,984,094
Inui Toko 03/02 58,257 ¥3,074,279
Yuzuki Roa 03/19 45,870 ¥1,741,264
Suzuhara Lulu 03/27 47,289 ¥1,863,889
Warabeda Meiji 06/19 30,406 ¥2,790,447
Joe Rikiichi 06/26 43,418 ¥2,805,861
Hanabatake Chaika 07/03 41,640 ¥2,654,243
Mayuzumi Kai 07/10 69,384 ¥3,038,245
Maimoto Keisuke 07/22 67,515 ¥1,723,168
Ex Albio 08/08 68,695 ¥2,990,711
Kagami Hayato 08/10 132,381 ¥10,269,624
Ars Almal 08/14 76,407 ¥2,387,601
Debidebi Debiru 08/18 119,092 ¥2,846,906
Yorumi Rena 08/28 75,599 ¥2,594,634
Kana Sukoya 09/12 67,234 ¥3,883,547
Kakeru Yuemoi 10/09 49,764 ¥4,587,812
Sakura Ritsuki 10/16 47,971 ¥2,628,547
Hakase Fuyuki 10/23 68,187 ¥1,800,563
Nui Sociere 11/06 72,873 ¥2,508,047
Makaino Ririmu 12/04 56,781 ¥1,434,148
Uzuki Kou 12/16 54,864 ¥4,056,336
Hoshikawa Sara 12/19 86,419 ¥3,957,746
Saegusa Akina 12/25 73,005 ¥7,509,846

2021
Kanda Shoichi 02/12 49,644 ¥2,912,489
Emma August 03/12 39,181 ¥1,241,889
Yuhi Riri 03/19 46,515 ¥2,036,826
Moria 03/27 27,859 ¥725,590
Fumino Tamaki 04/09 50,470 ¥2,511,839
Aiba Uiha 04/17 66,920 ¥2,225,236
Ratna Petit 05/09 48,915 ¥2,453,501
Aizono Manami 05/14 46,539 ¥1,241,597
Amamiya Kokoro 05/28 73,118 ¥2,838,543
Fuwa Minato 06/04 143,270 ¥16,358,272

Top 3 Peak views
Fuwa Minato 143,270
Kagami Hayato 132,381
Hoshikawa Sara 86,419

Top 3 SC
Fuwa Minato ¥16,358,272
Kagami Hayato ¥10,269,624
Saegusa Akina ¥7,509,846

>>5605131
Oh damn Minato beat Kagami's? What did he do, summon Dark Magician?

>>5603399
If you look at nijisanji they have way less numbers of superchat but higher donations. They are scary. It feels like nijisanji fans are really trying make a statement with their superchats. They are surprisingly zealous even compared to the virtual idol otaku of Hololive.

>>5605220
He beat shachou in smash

>>5605220
sang with kuzuha akina and shachou, did a champagne tower that grew with superchats for like 4 minutes, gantz/supersmashbros skit, sang harukahikari

>>5604992
oh, true, i forgot about sio
well, at this rate tomoe will most definitely pass gibara and take the crown of 3d nijigirl debuts
then she will hold the top spot forever

>>5605263
Tomoe is a special case where she can grab both Male and Female audience with her bisexual alpha aura

>>5603399
I said yesterday that TOmoe's stream would be really big. Tomoe is one of the most superchatted in niji and in 3D events they'll unload everything. Crossick being in there might do it as well

>>5605671
predictions on peak live viewer count?

>>5596053
Nijisanji has its own topic meaning all their tweets get automatically buffed by the twitter algorithm. Niji numbers have too many tourists. That's a fact.

>>5605263
Nijisimps are sleeping dragons. They don't check in to daily stream or even subscribe to many of the Niji's, but they show up when it's important events like 3D debuts and graduations and drop mad cash (for guys). I made some posts in this thread earlier comparing the twitter reactions to Lulu and Coco's graduation tweets and Lulu is on track to actually overtake Coco in Twitter likes too (136k rn VS Coco's 163k), despite having a much smaller follower base.
I don't anyone in their right mind will say Lulu is more important than Coco in terms of vtuber innovation, but the Niji fans who don't normally do much are coming out in droves.

>>5608633
Realistically? 70k at most. Her fanbase is not as big as Akina >>5605131 but they're willing to put their money for her.

>>5609480
>>5609491
Amamiya had her 3D debut recently and peaked at 72k so 70k is a solid prediction Imo. Tomoe usually doesn't get many live viewers (1 to 2k) for her streams so I don't think she'll be getting niji Male numbers in viewers and superchats.

>>5608633
>>5609491
Amamiya had her 3D debut recently and peaked at 72k so 70k is a solid prediction Imo. Tomoe usually doesn't get many live viewers (1 to 2k) for her streams so I don't think she'll be getting niji Male numbers in viewers and superchats.

>>5596053
like >>5597442 anon said. How many of these online users do you think uses Twitter?

3rd gen vs 4th gen MK viewers will be funneled to Nene & Suisei 3D concert.
This concert should get at least 60k.

>>5610128
to add to this, Suisei will be releasing a new song in this concert.

>>5608633
65k live 55k supas

>>5605131
>kuzuha
>kanae
>Yashiro Kizuku 02/17 57,519 ¥1,178,735
>Mayuzumi Kai 07/10 69,384 ¥3,038,245
>Kagami Hayato 08/10 132,381 ¥10,269,624
>Saegusa Akina 12/25 73,005 ¥7,509,846
>Fuwa Minato 06/04 143,270 ¥16,358,272
Only Ibrahim left then no more male trump card...fujos...

>>5610560
Ibrahim has a pretty big following and actually gets better numbers than Minato. Not sure if he can pull off a concert as hype as Minato and Kagami for the superchats tho.

>>5610560
20/02/16 - Shellin Burgundy
20/03/07 - Amemori Sayo
20/04/01 - Kuroi Shiba
20/04/12 - Hayama Marin
20/04/22 - Furen E Lustario
20/04/28 - Ibrahim
20/05/03 - Mashiro
20/05/13 - Levi Elipha
20/05/16 - Melissa Kinrenka
20/05/17 - Machita Chima
20/05/19 - Hayase Sou
20/06/18 - Akabane Youko
20/06/20 - Eli Connifer
20/06/30 - Naraka
20/07/05 - Matsukai Mao
20/07/12 - Luis Cammy
20/08/05 - Fumi
20/08/23 - Shibuya Hajime
20/09/11 - Yukishiro Mahiro
20/09/19 - Onomachi Haruka
20/09/19 - Nishizono Chigusa
20/09/21 - Suzuki Masaru
20/09/25 - Gwelu Os Gar
20/09/27 - Nagao Kei
20/10/17 - Fushimi Gaku
20/10/25 - Kaida Haru
20/11/29 - Suzuya Aki
20/12/11 - Kitakoji Hisui
20/12/12 - Genzuki Tojiro
21/01/02 - Yamagami Karuta
21/01/09 - Sorahoshi Kirame
21/02/10 - Seto Miyako
21/02/23 - Suou Sango
21/03/22 - Todoroki Kyouko
21/04/01 - Gilzaren III
21/06/05 - Asahina Akane
21/06/06 - Kurusu Natsume
21/06/24 - Azuchi Momo
fujos still have a lot of things coming up for them

>>5609480
This.
A Nijisanji tweet can get close to 100k likes but get less than 50 comments. Where do all these likes come from? The topic feature on twitter is pretty aggressive when it comes to recommending tweets. I don't even follow niji but they keep showing up on my timeline. Niji tourists are real.

>>5610624
the last one that can pull 100k...
>>5610797
literally whos

>>5610560
fujos also like valz

>>5610854
fujos love VALZ, haru recently got on the top 10 SC list of the day for offhandedly mentioning being annoyed at noise and wanting to buy a soundproof room
i can see gaku pulling good numbers too if there's a kenmochi buff
mashiro may pull good numbers if he does something weird

>>5597978
>Where's you get this graph?
I make them

>>5610799
So Nijisanji has a twitter algorithm advantage while Hololive has a Youtube Algorithm advantage huh?

>>5610797
>Ibrahim
And maybe
>Kaida Haru
Will be able to get big numbers, while the latter will get big superchat but less viewers. Others are irrelevant.

Average viewership

Yellow is Holo, blue is male Niji, orange is female Niji. grey is niji as a whole

>>5600037
Youtube notification is unbelievably shit, it's either late or just doesn't tell you.

>>5614948
How I would love for the days of October and November 2020 to be back...

Come on Youtube, no one cares about "spam" viewers, we want big numbers

>>5614948
Why did Hololive and Nijigirls get that massive December debuff, the males seem fine.

>>5610797
Bold of you to assume Gilzaren III will even have one considering he hasn't streamed in so long lol

>>5614948
Hololive vs Niji-female: idolfags vindicated.

Great so the thread is going to die again before primetime is over

>>5615008
Youtube debuffing hololive viewer numbers due to "spam"

>>5615028
Noraneko will force him to

>>5615008
December is the month of:
>YouTube "bug" (which turned out to be an anti-bot "feature")
>Hololive 2nd FES: Beyond the Stage
>Holos streaming less overall

Not sure what happened on the Niji side, but it could have been due to the females having international audience on chat that triggered the anti-bot or simply they were behaving similar to the Holos.

>>5615161
>males didn't get much difference
So Susan hates women?

>>5615198
>So Susan hates women that don't conform to the "progressive" agenda?*
Yes.

>>5615008
>Why did Hololive and Nijigirls get that massive December debuff
YT changing how they count live viewers

>>5615686
Doesn't explain why the nijiguys are unaffected. Unless fujos are too dumb or obsessed to use adblock.

>>5616168
"muh Kuzubae and Kanae-chan need their ad revenue so I must sit through every ad"
- Fujos, probably

Ibrahim 3D next week. Prepare for some records broken just like tomoe will do today

>>5617414
FUWACCHI GET BEHIND ME

>>5617414
>>5608633

Okay, this is probably one of the dumbest and most inaccurate ways to predict, but I found the 4 most recent Niji 3D announcement posts on twitter and I will try to use the previous 2's data to predict the 2 upcoming ones. Normally I would say NijiJP fans only like tweets but don't show up to streams, but this is a big event so tourists will check it out.

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1395665777169158144
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1398202449752694786
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1405842832460378116
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1408349321146286085

Amamiya: 19.1k RT, 1308 QT, 46.3k Likes / 72.5k peak viewers SC:
¥2,854,680
Fuwa Minato: 23.3k RT, 1939 QT, 48.2 Likes / 143k peak viewers SC: ¥16,381,963
Tomoe: 14.9 RT, 1014 QT, 37k Likes
Ibrahim: 24.1k RT (for now), 2281 QT (for now), 44.5k (for now)
(It's literally only been 1 hour since announcement, what the fuck are these numbers bro)

So uh this wasn't very useful... maybe around 70k for Tomoe and 150k+ for Ibrahim. Can't predict superchats.

>>5617414
>>5608633

Okay, this is probably one of the dumbest and most inaccurate ways to predict, but I found the 4 most recent Niji 3D announcement posts on twitter and I will try to use the previous 2's data to predict the 2 upcoming ones. Normally I would say NijiJP fans only like tweets but don't show up to streams, but this is a big event so tourists will check it out.

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1395665777169158144
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1398202449752694786
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1405842832460378116
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1408349321146286085

Amamiya: 19.1k RT, 1308 QT, 46.3k Likes / 72.5k peak viewers SC: ¥2,854,680

Fuwa Minato: 23.3k RT, 1939 QT, 48.2 Likes / 143k peak viewers SC: ¥16,381,963

Tomoe: 14.9 RT, 1014 QT, 37k Likes

Ibrahim: 24.1k RT (for now), 2281 QT (for now), 44.5k (for now)
(It's literally only been 1 hour since announcement, what the fuck are these numbers bro)

So uh this wasn't very useful... maybe around 70k for Tomoe and 150k+ for Ibrahim. Can't predict superchats.

>>5616168
Kuzuha did drop by 15%, it's easy to overlook when compared to holo/niji girls drop.

>>5618168
the amount of interactions with the tweet in such a short while is insane but 150k is pushing it i fear