/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Improve yourself, OP.

>>56883210
TLDR
you lost, your homos got graduated, get fucked

>>56883210
Fuck off. IRyS is considerate of our feelings.
Shame that Amelia isn't

>>56883210
Sorry i'm to drunk on victories to read all of that, so happy for you or sorry that it happened and cheers!

>>56883307
Ame was telling you the truth you didn't want to hear. She had your best interests at heart.

>>56883210
Do you think mentioning veibae is a good way to convince people of your position? Because she is literally everything wrong with VTubing,

You are angry and embarrassed while I'm as happy as a bee!

>>56883210
>many moons ago, Veibae and her e-celeb boyfriend read a letter from an angry uni- ACK ACK ACK
I know you're memeing. Bitch is planning to coast off Soda as a housewife. She has no vtubing career to care about.

My reddit karma bros.... it's all gone simply because I chose to defend the Stars' honour, I am undone...

>>56883210
>another seething homobeggar
improve yourself unironically.

>>56883353
Which are?

>>56883210
u angry OP?

>>56883353
Nta and not very emotionally invested in this argument at all but uh
Even those who did take Ame's words to heart and left to "improve themselves" as it were, came back to a girl who was the exact same and hadn't improved herself one bit, and now she's on a depression break again...

>>56883210
>Watching IRyS have to placate unicorns by literally saying "Don't worry I won't talk to boys" made me feel such second-hand embarrassment and anger.
holy based?? where??

>>56883210
Looks like you haven't improved yourself anon
I did, and now I'm standing tall with my unicornbros. We have nothing to be ashamed, and much to be proud of.

>>56884073
https://streamable.com/npkfr4
Sisters are seething because she not only said, "I won't talk to boys," but explicitly said that the only reason she agreed to the collab in the first place was that management assured her that she wouldn't. Sisters went from thinking they had won IRyS over, only to have her turn around and give the most direct "I will never collab with guys" that she possibly could have.

>>56883210
Just gonna leave it here

>>56884370
Damn, that's ice-cold.
>This is something I confirmed with management, by the way.
Christ. Irys cute and sex.

>>56884084
I kneel UnicornGODS

>>56883267
>>56883338
>>56883502
>>56883549
What do the homofags have to do with OPs post

>>56884425
Best grudgepost on /vt

>>56883210
I am really interested in the percentage of people who are *actual* unicorns here. I always assume that the unicorn schizos who accuse VTubers of betraying their trust for collabing with a guy once are all just meme-ing and trolling, but lately I have the feeling that a non-trivial amount of them really are that pathetic.

>>56884668
retard

>>56884879
Don't reply to me with such an insubstantial post ever again, cretin.

>>56884690
I felt betrayed when my oshi collabed with males so i left. Not much to it.
No i won't say who she is. Not Holo either.

>>56884370
Imagine having a fanbase so unhinged that you have to make sure that you won't talk to a male person during a sponsored stream. This isn't IRyS being sweet by thinking of the feelings of her fans first. This is a girl being terrified of the reaction of her fanbase if the voice of a man was ever heard in her stream.
Feels like an abusive relationship.

>>56885068
retard

>>56884668
Are you stupid?

>>56885178
Drater

>>56883210
Cry about it faggot, we won, if you don’t like it then you can leave

>>56883210
I think the mistakes was Unicorns attacking Irys of all people, for what? For a collab everyone knew was just an ad and that there would be no shared voice chat. Completely unjustified.

>>56885219
>>56883267

>>56883210
I want Fubuki to forget the rules and invite everyone in the same chatroom for post-match chat during stream.

>>56885092
Cry about it more, we won

>>56883210
>I have sympathy for some of you because you're probably mentally ill
I do not need your sympathy. Irys is mine. Go away.

>>56885279
>everyone knew that
Did you not see the promotional material? They literally said they wanted to unite people regardless of gender

>>56883210
>ame
>IryS
go back to le reddit or ninji senpai here we are all saint... unicorn saints

>>56885092
>he's STILL trying
utterly humiliating loss today, sister. you got gangbanged by 2 graduations into irys destroying you
i understand why you're samefagging and seething on cooldown RUMAO

>>56883210
>>56447408

>>56885305
>Your

>>56885487
retard
>:3

>>56883210
Keep seething, normalfag.

>>56884690
The majority of anons are "actual unicorns", in the sense most people would quickly lose interest if a streamer started mentioning IRL sex life, doing lots of 1 on 1 collabs with boys, etc etc.
Then there is a loud minority of "unicorns" who are half dramafags and people who hate hololive stirring shit and half total retards who think the parody is the real thing.
Typical behaviour of false unicorns include inaccurate statements about how often JP vtubers interact with males, recommending indie vtubers who interact with males, pretending to be mad for minimal shit like this collab or an interview.

>>56885092
Is IRyS a prisoner? Or is she considerate enough to understand a lot of us are in love with our oshis and are our source of our happiness?
Is IRyS a prisoner? Or is she afraid of Holostars guys since they potentially be Holofans getting in Hololive to fuck them therefore avoiding them?

You tell me schizo. Why would you think the worst of IRyS?

>>56883210
using amelia was the most excellent part of this bait

>>56885548
Who?

>>56885678
Makes sense since she's the homobeggar queen

>>56885092
>imagine receiving thousands of dollars every week and all you have to do is assuage your fans that they're your number one priority while streaming yourself playing fucking video games and singing
Women have it so goddamn difficult, bros...

>>56883210
>Veibae
Isn't her whole shtick to keep her chat constantly updated about her bodily functions? You can't farm parasocials and then feign outrage If they behave that way.

>>56883210
stop avatarfagging you pathetic homobeggar

>>56883210
i see this image being used on /hlgg/ all the time and yet this is my first time seeing this filename.
>>/vt/?task=search2&search_filename=3b3k2j59erq71.png
This is it's second use, first one being in a catalog thread over a year ago

>>56886029
he has dozens of ame images he cycles between

>>56885641
This is is the shit that is so unhinged that it has to be a parody. But with every post calling a Holomem a "whore" for participating in a mixed collab just once, the feeling that this real creeps up to me.

>>56886234
Maybe you should leave then.

>>56886234
Go back to Twitter and go watch the Holostars

>>56886234
Still lost btw. Keep trying though, someone will eventually respond without you samefagging KEK

>>56886234
>the feeling that this real
Of course the homobeggar is SEASL.

>>56883210

>>56884668
Are you mentally challenged?

>OP ran away after getting absolutely shit on for the entire thread - samefagging mysteriously stops
you LOVE to see a homobeggar have a melty KEK

Imagine you were on /v/. You have a waifu, but suddenly, they make a second game and instead of getting with the MC, she goes to a secondary NPC. That is what these lads feel like. IRYS knows enough about her fans to know that she has to placate them. So she eases them in with an impromptu karaoke because that is what they like. Then she hits them with a professional answer to some of their worries. That is essentially what happened. IRYS is smarter than the average EN because she has been a JP for far longer.

>>56883864
I miss the old Ame, creatividad Ame
All-gen collab Ame, complete her goals Ame
I hate the new Ame, the bad mood Ame
My tummy hurt Ame, 2 streams a month Ame
I miss the sweet Ame, the gremlin hics Ame
I gotta say, at that time I'd like to meet Ame
See, I invented Ame, it wasn't any Ames
And now I look and look around and there's so many Ames
I used to love Ame, I used to love Ame
I even had a dumb dog, I thought I was Ame
What if Ame did a collab with Ame?
Called "I Miss The Old Ame"?
Man that'd be so Ame
That's all it was Ame, we still love Ame
And I love you like Ame loves Ame

Yeah, but what can you do? Losers like that keep this whole industry afloat with their money so ofc the talents have to pander to them.
We're talking people so parasocially attached to the point of fantasizing the talents are like their virtual gfs... which I guess is the business model to a certain extent.

>>56883210
All the seethe in this thread from unicorns confirms how little they actually care about IRyS, or anyone they "oshi". Just the idea that she might interact with males is enough to get them to have melty and jump ship. It fucking sucks to know they're sticking around, I wish they fucked off to FuwaMoco or something so they can shit up that fanbase instead. Unicorns are ticking time bombs, it's best you don't let them fester in your fanbase any longer than you need to because eventually they'll lose their shit over the most harmless thing. IRyS deserves better and so do all the other girls. It's so sad seeing this faggots shit on Kronii, Calli, and Ame when they KNOW they're colleagues that IRyS respects and even admires.

>>56891082
And because of talents pandering to those idiots is why vtubing in general have plumeted so hard this last year. Sharing a hobby with those pathetic men ruining all the fun its just distressing. And the more people are push away from vtubing the less and less viewers will be in general pushing more and more vtubers to forfeit the job including hololive.

I just unsuscribed and cancel the membership. I never liked Irys that much but yeah when i hear her say that i feelt dirty like being part of the schizos.

>>56883210
kill yourself so I can laugh with your mum about it

>>56891958
>>56892523
>>56892523
Sisters... Not like this

IRyS is a grown woman who can make her own decisions. And her decision is to pander to the mentally ill. I’m sorry, did I say “pander to”? I meant “manipulate”.

>>56890201
>>56891082
>>56891958
>>56892523
you can stop samefagging now

>>56883353
>She had your best interests at heart.
How many times are you teacucks going to try and rewrite history. She said "improve yourself" in response to not liking male collabs, she wasn't being altruistic, she was being spiteful.

>>56886234
>unhinged
seethe more for us grandma

>>56891958
>>56892523
Cope, more people watch the girls that stay away from male vtubers.
To appeal to new audiences, they should completely detatch themselves to males as it is what our culture is literally seeking.
All males prefer it.
Women prefer it.
Young girls get good role models on the internet.
Win win win win win.

>>56884668
Dumbfuck

>>56891958
Shithead

>>56883210
Actually it's all political favors and neurological events without skill.

Mainly it's already been decided years ago.
Here's a checklist for you.
1. Have a stereotype for every person you meet about how many words they say in a day to other people.
2. If you are a susceptible person, consider what that person was doing with 'it' that impacted what you were doing with it.

It has been ten long years and mainly everyone is already under it's cover. You might be surprised to find out the number of Americans who literally don't participate in life is risen incredibly while your ability to imagine a world where you are impacted by extra sensory perception and instruments has cancelled the knowledge that people are simply not what you think. It would have become this anyways, we are not good but merely likely. The only victory is in getting it to do things it's not meant to do.

1. Don't hate the player, hate the game

1.5 Respect the hustle

2. If it's that serious all you have to do is just create a powerful group that doxxes and assassinates all male vtubers so this won't be a problem anymore

3. Your oshi does NOT care about, snap back to reality parasocials

4. Get therapy as you have something incredibly wrong with you in various aspects of your life. Trust me, it does indeed help at least a little

5. Live a happy life with a wife & kids and no more schizo behavior

>>56893649
ogey virgin go back to your porn

>>56889659(me)
>I post this
>OP embarrassingly tries to save face by samefagging 15 times
holy shit, dance for me monkey RUMAO

>>56893120
Why can't you dramafags at least be informed on actual things and not your headcannons

>>56883210
Chuubas are emotional prostitution so it's not really different.

>>56884084
It's fun looking at the back and forth between the two idiot factions.

>>56883864
>now she's on a depression break again...
She's literally streaming right now.

>>56884690
Unicorns are a minority but a significant percentage of male fans do feel uncomfortable with male collabs with a chuuba they got infatuated with. I don't think this is as much of a problem with women also.

>>56896435
There's a possibility of vtubing to be healthy, liking cute girls doing cute things doesn't mean you have to shower them with your life savings and pretend they're your girlfriend.

And going by the prostitution comparison it makes unicorns infinitely more embarrassing because their prostitute doesn't even give them pussy. She doesn't even give them her face

>>56896077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eNbGVgSBiY
why lie about something so easy to fact-check? It's literally in response to a question about Tempus. She didn't just start a new unrelated topic because she cared so much about her fans, she's telling people that if they have a problem with tempus collabs then there's something wrong with them that they need to work on.

>>56883353
her job is to entertain us not to "improve" us, she should stop trying to be more than she is

>>56892523
retard, hololive wouldn't be here today without gachikoi/unicorn paypigs, kill yourself immediately, no one likes you

They know 99% of these girls have or had boyfriends at some point, but it is fine as long as they don't know they are getting "cucked".

>>56898061
She's correct. Anyone with a problem towards Tempus should revaluate their life. Ame even said she does not get why there's separation.

>>56883210
>obsessed with getting hookers
Listen up chud, the proper term is sex worker and they deserve worker's rights and legalization of their profession. I support them everytime I ask a girl out and she turns me down I just see a sex worker or two then donate a supa cause I respect women unlike you bigot.

>>56891958
seethe you bitch

>>56897889
>cute girls doing cute things
That's tranny lingo.

>>56893288
>vtubers are good rolemodels for young people
I really don't have a dog in this fight, but that's beyond retarded.

>>56892523
And those idiot incels are the ones who keep supporting this industry with their money since kizuna ai era, without them vtubing would be dead long ago
fucking ungrateful faggots

>>56883210
>watching vei

>>56898330
So we've gone from "She didn't say that!" to "Ok she said it but whatever, it's true". There's that rewriting history you teafags constantly engage in. We were talking about why she said it and it was in direct response to Tempus and justifying her decision to collab, not out of a genuine desire to help her fans.

>>56891958
Agreed, it kind of creates a weird unspoken cultural rift amongst the talents that never had to be there. IRyS would hate you if she knew how you talk about Mori because they're buddies

>>56885577
Even streamers like Pokimane and Valkyrae don't make their sex lives public, even though it's obvious that they fuck. The difference is also that people don't go crazy whenever they stream with males.

>>56883210
>Watching IRyS have to placate unicorns
That is what a virtual idol does. They placate unicorns. Unicorns are their paying customers and their primary marketing demographic.

Now there's two things that define a unicorn:
1) The horn is not for decoration; you can't tame a unicorn.
2) They only like pure women.
In this case purity is subjective. There's hololive idols that have streamed with men in the past and nobody gives a shit. It's the coed collabs that are a problem. Ergo "purity" in this case is maintaining an atmosphere of interaction with the audience. It doesn't matter if you think they're losers because they're the paying customers. Nobody else is willing to dump a hundred god damned dollars on a youtube message, especially not the social justice warriors that came running to defend the imaginary right to stream with whoever they want.

That in itself had a hand in killing Holostars. Twitter warriors came running to defend girls from their fans' backlash in regard to coed collabs. Those god damn chuds are oppressing the anime women we better go do something about it! You think any of those people are going to drop a $100 superchat on Vesper or Magni? Fuck no.

>>56899632
Difference between normal casual fans that donate 5 bucks here and there or have a membership vs some psycho that's dumping hundreds on his oshi's streams. The latter is a screaming minority that wouldn't be as missed as you think, even financially. Thousands of the former will make up for the 20 guys shitting their diaper and stealing mommy's credit card on /vt/ every day

>>56890201
Bad argument since /v/ is coomer central. They would pay to see their waifu getting into blacked gangbangs.

>>56883210
Nobody is forcing IRyS to do anything. If she wants to collab with males she can. In fact, she should be just like Kroni and collab with males all the time, her loyal non-unicorn fans will support her.

>>56899671
Why would anyone care what a woman thinks lol

>>56883210
>Hololive debuts a ONLY GIRLS gen in myth
>Debuts IRyS
>Debuts Council
>Still no males in sight, male collabs very rare and split among 2-3 members
>Everyone assumes that they are going for the JP CGDCT vibe and people seem to like it
>All of a sudden Tempus 1 and tempus 2 trying to copy Luxiems success
>Forced collabs to shill their dogshit holostars project that not even the Japs like (most of them are 3view shitters)
>Fans are angry about this just like the Japs were angry in the early days
What part of this you don't understand retard? Male, with a few exceptions like Kuzuha, will never and I mean NEVER be big or good as vtubers.
I'm not even a unicorn my first oshi was a JP artist that was married. I just can't stand male vtubers because most of the time they bring nothing to the table and change the entire dynamic within a corpo. No one but trannies and faggots wants to watch another Niji EN copy where you tune in to watch your oshi, and some faggot like Uki or Luca is there 50% of the time, be it "in person" or via voice call.

I like when a girl reasurres her fans like IRyS did because some people actually spend a lot of money on these whores, so being open about those kinds of things let's people know in advance whether to stay or bail.

>>56883210
nigger what are you doing? it's celebration time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PexovAdpFsE

>>56883467
That is the standard route isn't it? Pander to lonely desperate men promissing them this and that, and once you get big enough and have an army of twittertard faggots to defend you, then it's like "LOL incels improve yourself!"

>>56900310
>loyal non unicorn fans will support her
So just the yesmen cucks?

>>56893645
What the fuck is this? Am I drunk or is this ai nonsense?

>>56902106
Tempus collabs were nowhere near as excessive as people claim. It was usually an occasional event started by Mori or Ame. Only the ID girls did it regularly.

>>56903740
Probably an AI post bot.

Not like this, seethesters...

>>56884668
>makes a fairly unremarkable and true post about unicorns
homobegger.

I just have to assume they're either npcs or false flaggers at this point. They're reactions and comments are always the same

>>56883210
it did feel like she was comforting children when she said that, i had mute it because i was cringing.

>>56883210
rough day anon with the double losses? of course you'd be informed about fucking veibae. that says everything.

>>56897188
NTA but I know right?

>>56900024
>/v/
>coomer central
way to out yourself, 2hufag

>>56885678
>bait
Nah he's genuinely fucked in the head, this isn't the first time he's complained about unicorns.

>>56883210
>chibi watson pic
opinion discarded
>>56883254
fpbp

>>56883210
you are baiting but not wrong

>>56883210
>cuckold thread with small ame avatar
Like clockwork

>>56884084
stay winning unicornGODS. you are the foundation of this entire industry, never forget that >:3

>>56899558
The quality of female role models is really low anon.
Most of them literally sell their bodies for money.

>>56911819
>>:3
Gura is on the unicorn team! We fucking won!

>>56913119
>Gura is on the unicorn team!
No shit. She is one.

>>56883210
Cope

>>56885577
>majority

>>56883210
More like she just lied about it. Lui showed up and sent her a script to read
They talk with each other on discord as kobo has leaked before

>>56883307
Her having to pander to unicorns by having to damage control a fucking nothing burger sponsored collab is fucking disgusting.
Honestly kills my interest in watching her, it's so fucking pathetic.

>>56885092
>This is a girl being terrified of the reaction of her fanbase
As all women should be

>>56883210
no, i will not change
c&s

>>56925897
You never watched her anyway... now go cry about homos graduation

>>56885641
>Or is she afraid of Holostars guys since they potentially be Holofans getting in Hololive to fuck them therefore avoiding them?
Least schizo unicuck

>>56883307
snowflake

>>56883210
>audience - i consent
>chuuba - i consent
OP - I don't
Also
>ame pic
checks out

>>56884690
>>56885577
I don’t even like when Jerma mentions Holly. If vtubers are “entertainers” then they should entertain me. I don’t want to hear about your fucking boyfriend, your mansion, or how hard it is to get up in the morning and stream for a living.

>>56925926
I have been watching her less for a while and decided to cut my membership last spring.
Now I only see her in collabs.

>>56898330
>Ame even said she does not get why there's separation.
Because hololive became famous for a cute anime girl singing a sea shanty ya dumb bitch.

>>56885374
Who organized this collab? Cause I have a suspicion that holizontal is a hold over from the Omega era even if it could be the brain child of Fubuki or whatever.

>>56883210
It's extraordinarily pathetic, but I mean it's vtubers, this entire ecosystem is pathetic, every single one of us to an extent. I don't think any of these unicorns are claiming to be chads or even improovers, just sad sacks desperate for escapism. The talents are first and foremost a product to consume, their personal feelings are a distant second, perhaps even third or thirteenth for them. This isn't some big revelation and all the talents surely understand this fact. A Hololive contract is one where your material needs are met and then some several times over, in exchange you are beholden to the lumpen mass of menhera fans. Take it or leave it.

>>56892523
Good. These whores have it way too easy anyways. I can’t believe Nyanners of all people got in on a grift this successful and now leeches off a bunch of LA streamer cucks.

>>56892523
No, it receded naturally as you normalfags have gotten over the trend. This was never YOUR hobby normalfag You don't fund it, and don't watch it regularly. You being the cancer you arejust want to turn it into typical western twitch/twitter culture wars. And also
>more chuuba forfeiting the job even holo
2view seethe was hilarious when advent came out. Try to rewrite shit all you want, bitches will be jumping over the next to get into hololive for en4 and beyond.

>>56913119
>>56916132
JayDee is laughing

I feel like her a few girls got harassed in the past over this. I mean, I don't blame them for chosing not to if it's past fans, many whom you come to like suddenly turning 180 and anti-ing the fuck out of you. They're idols and all that, I get it. I've been been to live idol shows, I know how passionate guy fans get but it must be a bit wary walking on eggshells or your life is in actual danger.

I doubt Irys genuinely cares about the JP stars but knowing you can have 100 fans suddenly not only stop supporting you but potentially kill you is horrifying.

I genuinely don't like the EN stars or care much for the JP stars. I usually vod the livestreams because I work a lot and don't have time during normal stream hours so I never got stuck in a parasocial loop. I'm a big fan for K-On and Love Live and this felt like a really good upgrade to that feeling but I also get weirded out by people who get too into it and actually start throwing a hissy fit, or worse, completely turn on the person.

>>56926462
>walking on eggshells or your life is in actual danger
it's very simple, just do not interact with men in any way. It's not very dramatic. Don't collab with men. Don't engage on socials with men.

I honestly think that the real problem is the frequency at which cross gender collabs in the west lead to vtubers acting like unprofessional entitled shits afterwards. Most people shrug things off in the Japanese scene and there's even a shipping culture despite popular assumptions that the japs are somehow worse than we are

Unicorns are just the low hanging fruits to pick at in the culture war

>>56883210
Only a fool watches vtuber streams as anything other than a virtual girlfriend simulator. As mere entertainment, vtuber content is slop compared to readily available alternatives. With that in mind, it's all to the good that many chuubas refuse to collab with males. There is a wide variety of tastes in virtual girlfriends, and on the important dimension of tolerance to on-stream male interaction a considerable portion of the global vtubing market rates low. You are clearly far too invested in the preferences of others if you are responding with anger towards a chuuba catering to her audience. Maybe you should improve yourself and stick to watching chuubas suited to your own preferences like Veibae.

hello, can someone tell me if irys a whore or not?

>>56928896
Not a whore.

>>56883210
You lost get over it.

>>56883210
imagine being this mad about unicorn-friendly vtubers

>>56883210
How the fuck do vtubers like Veibae even get unicorns in the first place? Is it not completely obvious from the start that she would be the type of person to laugh at you for that?

>>56928896
>IRyS
Not whore
>Ame
Whore

>>56883210
My oshi loves me, and I love her.
Hope you get those issues worked out buddy.

>>56883210
>"My wife and Tyrone can do whatever they want! Now excuse me while I beg to eat his cum out of my wife's ass"

IRyS will collab with people she wants and will still love me and i know she will because im not an insecure jealous faggot

>>56938931
mine too!