/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57151716
Fast disband or slow disband.

>>57151716
The departure of Bettel followed by an all expenses paid trip to the banishment room.

The purging of rotten apples will save the batch.

>>57151716
Worms collab with Ame

>>57151716
I'm expecting Cover to rush out Tempus 3 asap as a way to rectify the recent graduations and to heighten morale for the rest of the group. After ID4 we may very well see a new gen come out. I hope we also get a Vsinger as well but that's probably pushing it.

>>57151716
Ame's gonna be doing threesome with regis and axel instead of 4 dudes total now that magni and vesper are gone
She loves the holostars cocks so much

>>57151716
Tempus 3 so we can get 10 boys

>>57152216
What about Kronii? Is she still loyal to Vesper at least?

>>57152136
>>57152670
Why the fuck would they invest in more useless shitters? These dudes are shit stains in the company, even Ankimo is more memorable than all of them.

>>57151716
Becoming my husbands.

>>57152884
Where were you the last 4 years bro?

>>57151716
>Regis will sit around being a retard
>Axel will slowly wither further and lose interest as collabs with women dry up, after he realizes Vesper and Magni stole his chance to be a sex pest he'll leave
>Red shota and the bara fag will fall further and further into obscurity and probably just sit there, they don't seem to care how badly they're doing and have even said they kind of do it on purpose
>The clown's already as good as gone
>The spic might go either way but he might stay if he can get an in to the girls, Towa seems susceptible

>>57151716
I fuck them to death.

Now it would be a good time to try something new with their male branch, but who am I kidding, if we ever get another wave it will be more of the same.

European vtubers? Non-human vtubers? Straight males?
Nah, here's more femboy/twink/bara bullshit.

>>57151716
Hiring me. I will save Holostars EN.

>>57152884
Removing the deserved insult to those fags, yes there is no way cover will debut more tempiss any time soon. Cause this time it's to stars JP fan to get pissed of. Don't expect any tempiss gen before a tleast two years or you will get tons of anti.

>>57153043
seems like Yagoo didn't try hard enough.

>>57151716
bettel to leave. stars en is dying

>>57151716
be honest with yourself anon, you know what fate awaits them

>>57151716
get management to make mandatory collabs with the girls

The have the guild theme going on, they don't need to wait for a full gen, Cover can just hire 2 new "adventurers" into the guild to fill the positions. Don't think there will be many complains.

>>57152744
Vesper is gone. Kronii only loved him.
Ame loves all of Holostars

>>57155887
Ame wants to see the homos fuck each other, with their assholes being rammed by the others dicks, balls slapping against each other, being spitroast

>>57151716
they'll get new costumes, 3D and more collabs and major projects that actually go through now that the major sources of drama have left.

>>57152744
None of the guys left want to collab with kronii
the stench of vespers semen coming out from her is too strong

>>57151716
more graduations hopefully.

>>57151716

now to get rid of the fag

Do more BFE so fans have an actual incentive to give them money.

>>57151716
Axel will keep trying to grow the community by participating in VCR projects

>>57151716
The two dudes leaving is good, not bad. They didn't like whatever the fuck was going on behind the scenes and were just not into it anymore. I remember Coco saying "if I didn't choose to leave I would have started to dislike everyone here". These guys would have absolutely said some shit to get fired anyway if they were allowed to reach that point. Some people are just not compatible with Cover.

>>57158545
Does Tempus or holostars in general even do BFE at all?

molest children, go to prison, get killed by America's most responsible black fathers

>>57164498
Isn't he not even playing with the Stars on their rust server right now?

>>57164498
do you specifically look for shit drama threads to necrobump

>>57165241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mhSj_pjWmc
All you really have to know about Holostars JP "BFE"

>>57165546
So a bunch of bumbling retards who don't take it seriously.

>>57165789
Yes. But they do it.

>>57165275
He hasn't joined yet but he's just got back from a break

>>57151716
Islamic execution for homos

>>57151716
With the 2 troublemakers gone the become what they were actually supposed to be - the outlet for husbandos for the ladies and the gays instead of being a fucking menace to the idol grindset.

>>57151716
Total. Homo. Death.

>>57168356
Reminder that this is the guy Axel talked to on the ski trip

>>57151716
becameth holo cn. deleteth swoopeth under the rugeth

>>57151716
>what’s next for tempus

>>57151716
Success and a third gen soon after Kronii and Ame graduate

>>57153323
Bettel is inclining. Gura is dying

Regis becomes the ten year old Indonesian boys full time wrangler

>>57153047
Axel being an annoying sex pest to every womanchuba he meets is something that isn't discussed enough, honestly.

>>57151716
Irrelevancy, so the usual

>>57173534
I don't think it's every single one for some reason, I didn't hear literally anything about Pochi for instance, most people don't even remember that collab happened, and I actually like her so was keeping an ear out for him being a fucking creep to her. It was like one collab and then nothing ever again. I honestly have no idea how his sex pest brain works for choosing which ones to creep on and which ones to leave alone.
Pretty sure Zeta or whatever that one IDs name was got it worst though.

>>57174020
He's really ruining zeta career actually, it's really sad. I feel bad for her.

>>57174020
Maybe he watches it when it comes to certain higher profile people or people with more power in the industry since Pochi is an extremely popular artist before being a chuba. Most of the stuff I've noticed is him being a sex pest to smaller female chubas which is insanely predatory and not surprising at all. Avoided watching any of his interactions with Zeta, Towa, Matsuri, etc. since I like them all and would feel worse for them if I saw it.

>>57174730
qrd? I'm not familiar with what's gone on between those two.

>>57174730
Axel is a massive sex pest chigyu but zeta brought it on herself. Maybe she thought the homos would be Luxiem-tier when she started talking to him

>>57174730
>>57174020
>>57173534
Hello axelschizos

>>57175878
>Sister shows up to defend her loser by sticking her head in the sand
You'd think you'd have learned your lesson with the last two.

>>57175998
Clearly. But you never had any proof to your claims. If you think Zeta's career is in a ditch because of him. Where is the proof? Surely you can provide something as simple as that.

i like tempus :)

>>57173534
you're not wrong - I like his personality when with the boys generally and he's a cheeky little guy, but then he comes out with some creepy predator shit like "when am I allowed to use my clout to get chicks?" and you can hear Altare, seemingly the only sane one of HQ, hold himself back from the immediate reaction.
also Axel was watching Andrew Tate videos and Altare had to say to him on stream that that wasn't a good thing to and that he wasn't a good role model or something like that. Axel is retardo maximo

>>57175105
There isn't any, it's just seething nerds who just don't like Axel

Vesper threw away his golden ticket

>>57152136
>>57152670
>thinking there's going to be a Tempus 3
lolno. The whole Tempus branch is a colossal failure and I'd be shocked if it isn't phased out.

Unemployment

>>57176530
Bruh wtf...this faggot is creepy as fuck. Did he really said that??

>>57174954
Nothing happened. There was a little flirty banter and nothing came out of it. Simps are trying to run with rrats and be overbearing as usual

>>57151716
Since its confirmed it was a clout farming operation all along, they should all be terminated.

Their 2022 skit streams were kino then they just stopped

>>57152136
>vsinger in Stars
LMAO
that's more like a niji move

>>57177066
He was being sarcastic but autists can't read social cues

>>57177067
What do you mean by "flirty banter"?

>>57151716

>>57177259
Zeta and Axel testing out pick up lines on each other

>>57176530
oh and you're not a sexpest? lol

>>57153043
That just goes to show money can't buy success.

>>57173534
He's literally me fr fr, maybe get some lessons on rizz and you'll be just like him too yo.

>>57169352
>I'm so ppor I'm gonna use my limited funds on a marker and cardboard
Do people actually fall for this?

>>57151716
hire a new dps and healer. The party comp's lopsided.

>>57152136
>Tempus 3
An actual gamer gen like niji was going to do.

>>57177951
But for real. Niu didn't have a problem with this conduct and was happy to collab with him after VCRGTA. Astel and Roberu on the JP side also have a growing list of female guests they are close with online. Fans being overbearing as usual.

>>57177951
>he's literally me
But you don't talk to women?

>>57176717
Tbf, he's not a likable person kinda guy with his rage.

>>57151716
Tempus gen 3, duh

>>57178539
Krisis is the gamer gen

>>57176530
So he went from a himbo to
>am I allowed to use my clout to get chicks
That escalate.

>>57181086
>can't get the gist of an obvious satirical line
Hola Pedro, estar tu bien?

Hire Selen. Then Tempus 1 can be whole again, if not a little different than before

>>57153043
>Where were you the last 4 years bro?
The New Year's party was awesome since they can cover songs done by mixed genders like that Kaguya-sama OP

>>57179297
I do. I just don't Rizz. I treat them casually

>>57153090
>wave
Can you nijifags at least learn our terminology if you're going to shitpost on our board?

>>57183322
Make me bitch.

>>57151716
It's up to the sisters to save them, not the girls and not management. Show them that the fan demand is real.

>>57177951
rizz? mf only talks to some girls one time and people call that rizz. He tries but he cant be astel or roberu

Doesn't seem like Cover is abandoned them. They just gave them a 1st anniversary for a week that would lead up to Myth's 3rd anniversary.

>>57183780
The only worth saving is altare, the other fag thinks he is in a jp branch and keeps alienating his audience and he didnt even gaininew jp fans with the vcr or gta arc. Just a temporary boost.

Its like he wants to fail.

Where the FUCK is the tempus BFE tuber? Imagine a Vox but holo..

>>57185546
I don't care, I'm not a sister and I don't watch them, but their actual fans can save them (if they want to).

>>57185546
>The only worth saving is altare

I dunno, that rant about him fighting a viewer 1v1 is a bit too much.

>>57186085
Are all of them menhera? Kek

>>57152136
>I'm expecting Cover to rush out Tempus 3 asap
This. Management will also include Tempus in the next EN concert to prove they fully support them.

>>57151716
Graduate that SJW Regis Altare, So I can watch Holostars (StarsJP, StarsEN, Stars KR, StarsID, starsTH, StarsES) in peace

>>57151852
fpbp

>>57177951
Didn't he clam up like a shy little kid in that eceleb rust server and just follow rpr around all day?
I guess he really is you lol

>>57152136
Tempus 3 will be Asmon, Charlie and Pewdipie

>>57191749
>Management will also include Tempus in the next EN concert to prove they fully support them.
EN management doesn't fully support Tempus and probably wants them to graduate as soon as possible. Get better bait.

>>57185339
An anniversary announcement that surprised them and ruined one of the homo’s planned break. Probably see some from vanguard not renewimg their contracts by the end of the year.

>>57186085
the fuck? an average man fighting the average woman? no shit he would destroy his typical viewer, this guy is such a fag

>>57151716
Tempus3 will be there 'last chance'

>>57151716
Open apology from Mori

My theory is that Cover is gonna debut StarsEN 3 early next year.
They need to get the numbers up a bit and the group seems overall profitable.
My suspicion is they'll aim for smaller streamers this time as the larger ones they hired for Stars all turned out to be problems in one way or another.
Wouldn't be shocked if they basically just grabbed /asp/ies since the one they got already has caused them zero headaches

>>57151716
graduate every single one. Total fucking homo death

>>57173534
the kid is young and high test. cant fault him for that.

>>57153043
Damn all that money and advertising and still shit numbers and merch sales to show for it.

>>57207166
It's a drop in the bucket compared to the amount spent on the girls in Japan
Front page newspaper ads, TV spots, bus livery, billboards didn't Marine recently run an ad on that fancy 3D billboard they got over there?

>>57207439
Still too much for very minimal return. Why continue to invest in a product that clearly doesn't resonate with your core audience at all? Tempus has already reclined super hard from their start, even more so now that two of the most successful ones ditched.

>>57207565
Because the unicorns who watch Hololive are not the core audience for Holostars?
Holostars have their own core audience with their own market expectations that have little to do with Hololive?
Because Cover can provide a higher quality experience in that smaller market than their competitors by virtue of economies of scale and being able to share infrastructure/workflow capacity with Hololive? In theory dominating it.

>>57207790
But by all qualifications they aren't providing a superior experience than their competitors. Niji males do better than Stars in both EN and JP. Stars core audience overlaps with Niji's more than it does Hololive's. Having Stars share infrastructure/workflow with Holos would only lead to resources not being pushed towards the successful products in favor of trying to bolster objectively inferior products.

>>57207987
I said CAN not that they do.
Remember Holo has a lot of serious mismanagement issues. They're just not as bad as Nijis who cover for them with constant new gen debuts.

Also there's not a lot more they could do with the Holos in regards to these resources. The return on investment would be piss.
Hololive already has priority on everything the company has to offer. Holostars is getting mostly the spare capacity or anything they can book well in advance. The ROI there is a lot better than throwing it at the Hololive girls.
Remember if Cover has no presence in the male vtuber market and makes no efforts there then it's just money left on the table. Money that they could have instead of leaving it to their competitors.

>>57186085
That's like 9 months ago. Don't get me wrong, it was pretty cringe. (Also the cause statement.)

>>57153047
who's the clown and why are they good as gone? I don't watch holostars

>>57208229
But all evidence we’ve seen points to the contrary. Sure there was theoretically an opportunity to steal some market share from Niji in the EN male market, but it never really materialized fully. Tempus makes enough off the backs of a few members to keep the branch alive and probably barely profitable, but that doesn’t justify spending additional resources on it. They gave Magni a decently thorough touch up and Vesper a full new model less than a year into their tenure, that’s more inversement than the branch needs to have.

Niji will always have the distinct advantage of cross gender collabs being the norm. Most Holos won’t do it because they simply make too much money staying away. To go even deeper in depth the market that exploded Luxiem and the Niji EN males is one that Holopro can’t even tap, Chinese fujos.

I’m not saying that the Stars should have zero resources, I just don’t think big marketing pushes have really done anything to help them thus far. The money spent on those Stars ads could have bolstered some of the lower performing girls and generated more of a return.

>>57207439
Why compare EN to JP? It's not like the EN girls get much by comparison either.

>>57151716
Why don't any of them do watchalongs for the girls' concerts? Oga does them and they get by far the best numbers of anything he does.

Is it that they don't feel confident they can stay respectful the way Oga is?

>>57208521
Bettel, the most popular streamer in StarsEN next to Magni and Vesper. People are speculating that he'll see which way the wind is blowing and ditch too.

>>57208589
Oga just straight up doesn’t give a fuck about getting hate from antis. He’s super respectful obviously but most other Stars would get absolutely flooded by a wave of hate if they tried to do watchalongs like he does. Being good friends with FBK also helps too.

>>57208935
If Oga's life is fine despite doing it there can't be that much hate, surely. Maybe it's overblown?

>>57209078
Oga knows what he’s doing and handles it very well. All it would take is one retarded comment from someone like Axel to start a giant shitstorm, it’s not worth the risk or headache for them. Imagine having to deal with a bunch of morons in chat asking why you aren’t in Holotori to Hakka, I don’t think walking that tightrope would be fun for most of the guys.

>>57153043
Didn't the Stars hologra get cancelled because nobody watched it?

>>57209228
Yeah that makes sense to me. I guess it's a pretty delicate thing he's doing at the end of the day.

>>57206575
If you notice, most of Cover best hires are always nobodies or small streamer.
They seem to always strike gold with those picks.
There's a reason behind that. Small content creators usually stick around and are loyal to those who give them a chance. They've got this desire to prove themselves. Meanwhile, bigger content creators might just half-ass it because they've got that safety net of their RM to fall back on. They can always ride off their existing fanbase and expand from there if things don't work out.

>>57209375
Wasn’t Vesper a low 2-view before Stars? If even he was grifting to bring his audience to his roommate what’s stopping any other 2-view they hire from doing the same after seeing moderate success?

>>57209375
is that really true on the jp side? it seems basically non-predictive how successful they were prior to doing holo for the girls, you can find examples going in every direction

>>57209466
you don't even need moderate success, just having been a holo for a week was enough to turn Aloe into a 4-figure ccv streamer from a low 2-figure ccv streamer

>>57209629
True but I feel like the girls have a way higher floor for success so they’re less incentivized to leave. Stars in general see way less success so if you manage to get a little maybe it’s more worth it to try to swing it to your roommate? Idk I’m still confused about Vesper and Magni ditching

>>57209228
I mean the answer is fairly obvious "Guys come on, I'm a dude we don't join all girl idol units and before you say it I am not putting on a dress to try and fake it"

>>57209466
maybe because the boys enjoy being in holostars?
there's still perk for being in corpo (for merch & sponsorship) + cover gives fixed salary.
not everyone like handling those stuff by their own.
>>57209494
yep most popular JP holos was a literal who or 2view

>>57210241
If you think there isn’t a portion of Stars fans that don’t care about the all girls unit part you’re be mistaken

>>57210338
Didn’t Stars merch just get downgraded to generic products mostly? Not sure they’re exactly raking in the sponsorships either. If they can pull most of their audience/paypigs to their RM and not have to deal with giving the corpo a split what’s the downside?

>>57153043
Stars unironically needs to stop the homocollabs and go all in on pandering to the zhangsisters.

>>57208573
>armchair bussines expert
bro just say you dont want to see the homos get resources & being disbanded, no need to sugar coat it.
it's been 5 years already, Cover still keep supporting the homos no matter amount of seethe & armchair pretentious /biz/ on mongolian basket weaving forum will convince Cover to give up on homostars.
they still make profit & Yagoo has always be ''long term'' dude.
Amazing, how you still not understand this when the core ideology of its founder is that he will always want to support his talent even if they're underperforming.

>>57210655
Thanks ESL king
Cover is a publicly traded company now, if the investors can’t be convinced that the Stars are worth more resources that’s that. Saying that they’ve been getting support for 5 years makes it way worse, this is all they have to show for that?

And no shit nothing anyone says on this board matters, doesn’t mean you can’t discuss shit retard

>>57210338
Marine is the biggest jp holo and she was pretty big for her time on nico, just inactive at the time she was hired for holo. She was a solid 3/4 view at a time where that was much more rare.
Aqua and Pekora weren't total nobodies either. Noel is obviously huge.

Some of their now biggest successes were nobodies like Korone or Subaru, but they don't represent as big of a chunk of the big jp holos as you're suggesting.

>>57210875
Weren’t Korone, Okayu, and Mio also FBK nepo hires that just worked super well?

>>57210908
loads of holos are probably nepo hires sure, at least many of them go way back

>>57210501
They're still making money either way, and it's not like they're getting a measly 2% cut.
Like I said, not everyone's into being their own boss and dealing with all the business/legal headaches. There's pros & cons for everything.
>>57210821
NTA, but as long as Yagoo holds the most shares, no bunch of investors can really steer the ship. He doesn't even bat an eye when they're asking for stupid questions or make retarded requests. They can yap or throw a fit, but that's pretty much it.

>>57210449
Oh there is definitely. But playing it off that way is going to defuse most of the whining

>>57210821
As it stands we don't understand the shareholder situation in Cover
At least I've not seen anyone really lay it out.
Are most of the shares still in Yagoos hands? Or does he have something akin to Mark Zuckerbergs "super shares" which let him basically ignore the majority of the shareholders.

I'm saying this constantly now
Cover needs to approach the male /asp/ies. Gen 4 has multiple proven streamers at this point who are not unhinged, somewhat entertaining and proven to get along.
You could literally pluck up three or four of them and have a full starsEN gen ready to go with zero chance of drama or menhara moments
Get Fuza, Digby and Kankuro together and you'll basically have the best chemistry in any Holo gen
Plus they're all literal nobodies so they're not going to go "Well gee my RM could do better than this"

>>57211290
who?

>>57151716
my penis

>>57211351
Literally nobody 1views. Part of /asp/ gen 4

>>57151716
If they hire more people, I imagine they'll optimise harder for people who won't be drama queens

>>57151852
Fpbp

>>57151716
Tempus third gen

>>57151852
yup

>>57211202
i just looked it up. ~40% is still owned by Yagoo. 20% investors/board. 40% float.
Honestly, Holostars is far from a Metaverse tier money sink. Doing dumb shit to try to expand your market is pretty normal. Well, assuming that it isn't tanking your moneymakers (lol, Kronii).

>>57151716
>What's next for Tempus?
nothing

>>57178539
The only 3 Tempus members to reach major success were Vesper Magni and Bettel, and none of them are serious gamers. They need to fill that void with good entertainers/zatsudan-ers, not pro gamers. If fans wanted to watch an anime boy play Apex in a language they don't understand they'd be watching Axel.

>>57208629
>Speculating
He reactivated his old account right after the suspensions and has been posting and streaming ever since. He's trying to rebuild a secondary audience so he has something to support him when his contract expires in January.

>>57219217
Vesper was a gamer

Are they keeping the VODs up?

>>57185779
Axel

>>57151716
bettel is next runner up

>>57151716
new gen

>>57151716
More graduations probably

>>57151716
Stars train crashed, burned and left behind cloud of badly smelling smoke. I expect things to go back to what was before. They gonna exist as undersupported side thing that occasionally will be talked about but that's all.
>3D models for JP and their own show did nothing.
>EN and EN 2 did nothing.
>Trying to force men down the throats of Hololive audience only pissed people off and attracted freaks that don't care about brand but activism against "le evul gachikois!", which just scared away any potential viewers.
>Shit went bad so hard that one of the Tempussies decided that his irl career is just worth more and other could not cope with the rules and also went back to be borderline 2view.
>It affected even Hololive EN members that decided to try and shill Stars and just pissed off their viewers.

There's no net plus from that situation. Everything that could go wrong went wrong and Cover has just another half-dead branch that will need to be drip-fed for illusion of support.

>>57151716
The end.

>>57223878
I don't know if wow addict counts

>>57223878
Oh, I assumed that anon was talking about an esports focused gen to spam Valorant and Apex all day, which Tempus needs like a hole in the head.
Vesper is a gamer though and I've seen many anons here who said they got into him because of his unique taste in games. But ultimately I think most of those viewers stayed because he's charismatic not because he's particularly skilled.

>>57151981
hakka too, i think. both seem like they might jump ship to join the bros. bettel is already living in the same city as magni, literally hanging out, like, every night

>>57219217
he is shit at apex or any kind of game