/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57520900
Did he finally understand that holostars wouldn't be a thing?

>>57520900
>2015
what happened to dream yagoo.... dont let the money corrupt you brother

>>57520900
Yet he's allowing Gura to do exactly that, unless he thinks the constant ghosting and unannounced breaks make her fans feel valued and loved.

What's the problem? People love Holostars. Unicornniggers aren't people.

>>57521291
It's not about stars. Nobody gives a shit about stars.

>>57520900
What happened to him in those 8 years that he abandoned this thinking?

>>57520900
Who?

...or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

>>57521381
Merch money. Cover's main focus is maximizing merch sales now.
They got no morals nor ambitions anymore, only to make the most possible amount of money with the least possible effort.

>>57520900
This was during a time when it was just Sora, no?

>>57521163
lmao Gura earned him more money than half of the talents combined.

>>57521011
no.. it's the fact that going public was a fucking mistake

>>57521163
Gura hasn't shit on her target users. People would rather her not stream than Homocollab.

>>57520900
>merch
>shorts
>events
Cover's marketing team is working a lot, so much that looks almost like Cover decided to let them run the whole corporation. Idolshit? only good when it involves events and merch. Streaming? that shit is for 2view twitch thots kek hololive should go live only for big income concerts...

Fuck this marketing bull shit. Everyone in Cover's management should seppuku themselves. I hate them so much it's unreal.

>>57521381

That's what you get for going public. Now, you have to answer to investors, then your 'morals' is at the bottom of your priority list.

>>57521808
yeah i don't understand why a company like this would decide to go public. just pure greed. no taking it back either unless he's willing to buy back the company at a huge loss

>>57521856
>implying collabing with homos is one of her career goals
Missing the point chumbie.

They disappointed Yagoo, it's so sad
He loved them so much and he risked a lot for them

>>57522009
this is a great example of why it couldn't work though. magni immediately hated that meme. his model. and everything else associated with himself. compare that to the girls who are completely enamored by their hololive personas when they first start out.

>>57521856
Yagoo forced Irys, Lui and Chloe to shit on their main fanbases just to fill spots for an OW2 shill match.

>>57522128
Try saying "Bottom left" in Kiara's stream

>>57522128
that meme is the only reason people gave a fuck in the first place

>HOLOLIVE 2015
>8 years ago

>>57521918
they needed money for a bigger studio, they got it but it came with a cost

>>57522185
Kiara only hates that because it's a reminder she tried to sabotage the other myth members by ranking them according to how dumb and much of a whore they are and it backfired badly.

>>57521788
Duh she's a literal mascot for selling rubber toys, she's not an holo anymore. I'd take a reddit meme review stream over yet another new merch release, anytime.

>>57521011
but it is a thing? pls explain
>>57521856
>Gura hasn't shit on her target users
tbf no holo has done so, at least so far
> People would rather her not stream than Homocollab
truly a sad time we live in
>>57522163
>>"Yagoo forced..."
>Yagoo didn't even force anybody or anything
what timeline do you come from? or is there proof for this?

>>57521918
2015

>>57522546
>what timeline do you come from? or is there proof for this?

i said so

>>57522185
>>57522372
qrd? I don't watch Kiara but I like holodrama

>>57522163
wouldn't it make more sense to use other talents who can speak JP and don't mind homocollabing? like mori, bae, or nearly anyone from ID

so why would Yagoo force a talent to do something (and risk upsetting both the talent and their fans) when others will do it without issue? The answer is that those 3 just wanted a cut of that OW2 shill cash, no matter how much Irys tries to act like management begged her to

>>57522600
oh ok, i'm terribly sorry, it was just a question, i didn't want to question your opinion bro

>>57521163
lol
lmao

>>57521011
>2015

>>57522846
i like kiara drama honestly, but seconded.

>>57522846
Super early on with myth there was a collab where part of they were ranked on this seiso-horny and smart-dumb axis because it was a reddit meme at the time or something. Kiara was firmly in the horny-dumb quadrant (bottom left)
She kinda took this in stride even having a bottom left arrow as emote for a quite a while (I think maybe
6 months to bit under a year?) but eventually decided that she didn't like being associated with that anymore and got rid of the emote and told chat to drop the meme.
Not really any drama.

>>57522861
Nene was pressured by her manager into joining the Holizontal Valorant shit, the whole thing is exploiting them.

>>57521163
What is he going to do?
Graduate her?
Gura is in a position to do whatever she wants, the only people who could force her to change are her fans but instead it's half of them being submissive cucks on reffit and the other half shitposting about every other holo here to cope.

>>57521381
Nothing. You faggots are just not the target users, who'd have thought.
Hololive only grows stronger >:3

>>57521808
>>57521883
>>57521918
Stop being a retard, going public is inevitable when cover already have private investors in it even before IPO. As yagoo said, he either have to sell his company to the private investor or going ipo with less damage and somewhat a control.

>>57520900
WHAT HAPPENED IN 8 YEARS

We're timelooping 2015 now? Jesas.

>>57522009
He's been risking a lot for Stars since 2019 faggot.

>>57520900
>uwu, what happened to 2023 yagoo, huhu

Sharing this, like someone should not change direction for the past 8 years.. The fucks wrong with you.. Of course there will be changes, for better or for worse..

everything change in trajectory nothing is constant.. damn, are these anons just kids???

>>57522403
Luckily for Yagoo, he doesn't give a shit what a faggot like you thinks as long as his girls make money.

Considering Star's target user is female fans and faggots, this actually still holds true if you are not a disingenuous retard who doesn't understand what you are talking about

>>57520900
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHY CAN'T I TIME TRAVEL BACK TO 20155555555555555555555555555555555

LIFE IS HELL

>>57526998
>travel back in time 8 years
>probably still end up on /vt/ by the time today rolls back around

>>57520900
>is

NIJISANJI started in Japan in February 2018
Hololive Started in Japan in Jun 25, 2015

>>57525862
>inevitable
That's not how it works

>>57520900
The goal of any commercial project is to provide value, what a fucking retard

>>57522546
You either trust their words that management was enthusiastically begging them or you think they are liars. Then again they lied about VC so maybe

>>57520900
thanks

>>57522128
>compare that to the girls who are completely enamored by their hololive personas when they first start out.
Magni wasn't the first Holostars talent to have issues with their model and people forget the stealth redesign with Astel or the major redesign with Aruran. Cover doesn't give them input on their design and Hololive talents occasionally get stuck with coomerbait outfits they obviously hate. Flare, Ina, and Kronii might not have been as direct as Magni but they were the opposite of enamored.

>>57529882
Managed asked them in a way they couldn't really refuse. Look at management pushing other girls into doing things. It's not a stretch at all.

>>57521072
it all went to shit thanks to that big 3D studio they built.

>>57533631
did they also go on their RM accounts and literally SHIT all over their models? as always things aren't black and white

>>57521856
That isn't the dichotomy though

>>57533631
Kronii doesn't hate her model, she hates the massive, disproportionate boobs. I'm certain if she got a normal outfit that hid them (like a armored outfit, maybe?) she'd use that outfit the most.

>>57534086
She has a casual outfit.

>>57522163
take your meds and move on already

>>57533631
>People still using the "Kronii hates her model" rrat 2 years later
Get some new material already, dorks

>>57522403
That's what it means to be a corpo, retard. They exist to push merch for the company. They're essentially second-rate Pokemon.

>>57521291
I'm not an extremist that want Cover to get rid of Holostars, but trying to push unity between Hololive and Holostars won't be good for both sides
They should have maintained the state pre Tempus

>>57521788
Proof?
>Inb4 the sales of one merch

>>57538416
From his ass

>>57521381
hiring progressives who want to change things for some sort of stupid cause, eventually he ended up outnumbered and reluctantly agreed to new changes

>>57521011
they have a reason to exist, holostars were made for fujos, so they do have a target audience and should work for them only, mixed collabs shouldnt be a thing because thats not what the target audience wants, is not a unicorn thing, its called being a professional, they are employees not indies.

>>57520900
go back

>>57522846
>>57524343
In an early myth collab Kiara hosted, the theme was placing the Myth members on a graph where the axis were Intelligence and Purity. She kept trying to get the other three moved to more lewd and stupider spots on the graph until she was unanimously put at the bottom left corner by the other three and chat, with everyone calling her a stupid whore for doing this, and she complained about it for weeks.

>>57543143
Holostars is for yumes, anon. They don't care if there are mixed collabs as long as they're not seriously romantic. The two biggest JP Stars collab with women regularly and their fans don't give a fuck.