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not worth the production cost, next question

>>57596836
I would bet any amount of money Sana's contract was far different than theirs, especially considering she MADE merch.

>>57596904
Weren't Vesper and Magni the most popular homos? Surely some of their fans would still buy it in remembrance and there'll still be people who will buy the whole set because they are completionists.
And if it is still that bad then might as well cancel all homo merch then since they are way less popular than those 2.

If they had left on good terms and didn't do something wrong I'm pretty sure cover would let them have access to their accounts to speak to fans and not cancel merchandise. It's probably damage control on cover's end so they don't totally kill tempus' branding by revealing it. You don't really buy that not one but TWO talents would both opt to not have a graduation stream? Even if for selfish reasons, they could make bank with low effort.

>>57596836
Sana and Coco had proper graduation
The 2 retards just disappeared out of nowhere without warning lol

>demand a new model for some inane reason, thinking you deserve to get it before anyone else even the JP side
>disregard that gura has had her broken model since debut
>disregard that irys had to deal with her abyssmal model forever
>disregard that you will eventually get a new model and a horrible model is only a debuff if you are a bad person
>throw schizo hissyfit despite having more than double the amount of viewers and money since you joined holo
>disregard relationships you made within the company
>leave anyways
>decide not to do a last stream
>decide to fuck over your gen mates close to anniversary
>disregard earlier words of this being your "dream job", clearly showing your hypocrisy
I just hope that the "fans" that went with them stay go from all hololive activities because both of them cant help but talk shit about cover now despite owing them so much in terms of numbers.
But thats fine, they have good "friends" like backstabmouse and girl_dm right

>>57597148
I watched them.
The no grad stream being their choice sadly makes a lot of sense lol, especially for Vesper

>>57596836
>"graduated"
Kek, but jokes aside im so happy they are gone

>>57597744
Source: Trust me bro.

>>57597609
They're men, they have trouble submitting to authority figures they disagree with.

Daboys status?

>>57597842
Common fan knowledge that vesper's talked about that "funny story where he ghosted his job and life and just fucking biked around for a week+"

>>57598402
How did this fuckup even get hired in the first place?

>>57598480
considering he called this his "dream job" on debut and kept gushing about it then not even a year later left: lies and deception. Things only a bad person would do.

>>57596836
This is the rest of Tempus?! I'd only ever seen 2 of these people.

>>57597842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVp79WC9Lt8

>>57596836
It's the choice of the talents most likely.

>>57596836
all i see is a black hole of money
what the fuck is Yagoo doing?

>>57597922
>They're men
>One is a cocksucking party pleaser
>Latter is unstable faggot
You mean a failed byproduct of westernized men

>>57597090
>the most popular homos
Technically yes, but being the most popular homos still equated to them being half as popular as the biggest runts of holoEN

>>57597392
>without warning
They were canned for seven weeks before being officially graduated, a la Nijisanji

>>57596836
Black company

>>57596836
>Then why did Cover just cancel Tempus 1 merch for their anniversary while Council's was still released as it is? Why aren't they letting some of the homo fans buy 1 last merch involving Magni/Vesper?
Any merch already made during their absence counts. Unlike Sana who made the plushies, it was Magni and Vesper's choice to discontinue any production of merch on their end.

Though knowing Cover and their new relationship with the IPO, they'll probably put whatever leftover merch of them as bonus.

I'm sure its worth catering to the 3 fans of the dead homos.

>>57598573
>>57598573
I'll be fair and say that sometimes the "dream job" ain't actually what you think its gonna be. I can guarantee you Vesper didn't quite grasp the idea that there was going to be other expectations out of him than just streaming, and that he was going to have to take a lot of shit from higher ups with a smile on his face, something he clearly wasn't used to considering he worked jobs where he was considered essential enough that he could straight up go ghost for a week and still hold it.

>>57596904
prove it

>>57597609
No, I think I'll just watch them and Hololive. I don't see myself leaving.

>>57596836
Its a "Shadow Termination"

>>57599833
>Half
That’s an overestimation

>>57597785
So if it was not graduation what was it? For Ru-chan and Hatomi they stated termination so if it was that, they would just say that.

>>57605153
>>57605095
They said its a graduation(but no graduation) so homobeggars wouldnt take too much L and go rabid

Cover lets you have a graduation if you tie up loose ends and support your genmates.
Vesper wouldn't even talk to Axel when they were getting along. And he hates Altare's guts.

>>57598480
>>57598573
>>57603874
Vesper didn't do his reps, not realizing what it MEANS to work in Japanese corporate environment, and was overwhelmed by offline jobs + legitimate fear of public performance.
Mind, the first part is something even the girls complain about. Dude is a fucking retard, but him quitting was the right move.
Mag is the one quitting for something more tangible: Magni is a financial downgrade.

>>57597609
>shit talk cover
Timestamp?

>>57596836
>So Vesper and Magni "graduated" just like Sana and Coco right?
They were fighting with management which is the reason they went radio silent. Vesper's last stream was Snowpiercer a Korean movie in which people start a revolution against an oppressive system. Magni's last members post was they cryptic message that "A Maglord always pays his debts". I doubt it was a coincidence their suspension began less than a week after Vesper got his new model. My guess is they wanted to help Kronii get a redesign because negotiations to get that changed were completely stalled. Talks with Cover might have gone badly and instead of them being suspended for several months they were fired.

>>57609293
>My guess is they wanted to help Kronii get a redesign because negotiations to get that changed were completely stalled

>>57609293
My guess is that you're retarded and should be in mental asylum

>>57606128
Anon if Aqua and other girls who super mega fucking autism/ social problems in general I think he could have work something out here. They also seem pretty layed back on much you're forced to stream too.

>>57609293
>wanted to help Kronii get a redesign
Come on, let's not get completely retarded here.

>>57609497
Kronii is slowly burning out from the coomerbait design which she clearly hates but Cover won't give her a redesign. The exercise outfit was specifically made to show off the absurd body proportions. A hololive talent wouldn't do that unless they had major problems with their model.

>>57610349
You think Wada Arco is capable of designing something that isn't pure sex?

>>57596836
I just think Vesper and Magni were generally bad people and they gave them the option, but they turned it down to get out faster and because they didn't like their genmates and wanted to fuck them over on the way out.

>>57610349
>>57609293
This might be one of the most schizo things I have read here and reaching so hard for nothing it actually amazes me. Nice job!

>>57596836
They severed them from the company, but didn't want to outright say they were terminated because their viewers are insufferable and the Holostars branch is already on its deathbed to begin with.

It's an affront to holos who will graduate with honors that these two are allowed to be called graduates.

>>57610349
Yes but what does that have to do with mag and vesper?
Please don't give me "they are friends" cope.
They would have zero interaction if not for mori.

>>57610423
Yes, this

>>57611887
I want to fuck slender woman now

>>57598402
Then he's a grade a asshole.

>>57611762
>Yes but what does that have to do with mag and vesper?
>Please don't give me "they are friends" cope.
Kronii was their friend and they never had a problem fighting her unicorns or playing hardball with Cover. They were able to get their own redesigns approved and rushed out in less than a year. They might have known that fighting management again would be risky but Hololive frequently has radio silent "health breaks" that go on for months. Obviously the negotiations didn't go well and they got fired. Fuwawa did include Mahoromatic in her favorite anime list which ends with "the mutual defeat of Vesper and management".

>>57610453
There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that they were at a bare minimum, total dicks. I really can't understand how people still try to defend them.

>>57597609
>you will eventually get a new model
>gura has had her broken model since debut

>>57596836
>Hololive getting preferential treatment
But my holosisters told me it was le evil homos that got preferential treatment? Were we wrong?

>>57615149
Yeah. even worse, I forgot the end of the video where he even got his job BACK (to his surprise) because there was no one they could find to fill it. We pretty much know its something IT-related or whatever, so even if it was a shitty mind bore job that means he still basically screwed over his co-workers to some degree and is able to laugh off the whole situation without actually reflecting that his actions/ his reflection on said actions is kinda fucked up

>>57618001
Gura could have new rigging in a month, a new model in three, if she wanted it.
But that would require her to ask for it, which would require her to care.

>>57619340
Didn't he confirm recently that the whole medication arc was actually about him having weed withdrawals?

>>57616752
>Kronii was their friend
You going to back this schizo rrat with any evidence at all or are we back to "the voices told me"?

>>57619981
Yeah he touched up on that saying that his "bike trip" was just him smoking weed and tripping on mushrooms for a week
Would not surprise me if something like that happened while he was at holo as well

>>57609293
>My guess is they wanted to help Kronii get a redesign because negotiations to get that changed were completely stalled.
Did you forget those 2 homos are selfish dicks and only interested in stuff that would benefit them and them alone?

>>57609293
>Vesper's last stream was Snowpiercer a Korean movie in which people start a revolution against an oppressive system. Magni's last members post was they cryptic message that "A Maglord always pays his debts".
Funny how you assume they are this smart and scheming...
We are talking about the same guy that left his pills at home when going across the globe and turned into wreck due to it kek

>>57610453
>>57617152
>overwhelming amount of evidence that they were…total dicks
Convince me

>>57619981
>>57622101
That’s some bullshit. You can’t get withdrawals from fucking weed lmao

>>57624665
Almost all of Vesper's own personal stories, taken at face value, are about him acting like an immature asshole to begin with. This isn't even touching on the common claims of him being caught in his own lies or any questions about his character. Half of the stories he tells about problems he had are "Yeah I was wrong but I don't really feel bad about it"

Magni's friends outside of hololive are a long who's who list of the biggest drama magnets and shit stirrers in the scene. Not people who're just controversial and divisive, people who actively go out of their way to pick fights and get involved in trouble.

>>57605200
>Dude Trust Me

>>57621315
Vesper talked about doing a Paprika watchalong in early June and minutes later announced his redesign. That watchalong didn't happen but take a guess at which holoEN member did watch Paprika in early June. Their was either a series of unlikely events or they really were friends with Kronii.

>>57626364
tbf Kronii has been displaying alot of mannerisms that are similar to Vesper these past months, you only do that with people you spend a lot of time, i wouldnt be surprised if they talk alot behind the scenes

Blue faggot fired them

>>57609293
>>57610349
and kids here is the prime example why drugs are bad

>>57605401
Vesper's second to last stream was a massive collab with Altare. If they had any beef, they worked it out.

>>57618001
That's because Gura is too lazy and indifferent to complain.

>>57627319
They might give Gura's model a touchup, but there's no way in hell they're going to redesign one of their top talent's models. The only reason they redesigned Vesper's was because his old artist dropped off the internet.

>>57597929
Fuwawa is my wife

>>57602309
wow cover learning from niji in 2023 is something

>>57627858
silent suspensions are funny to shitpost about

>>57611887
>Anorexic Korean chick with fake tits

>>57626898
In other words they are dating
would be funny if that's a thing and the reason for vesper's graduation is a no dating policy among talents
and magni just followed suit because his best friend was out and it wasn't worth a bit of side-money

yea this is gonna be my new rrat

>>57596836
Right before magni and vesper were declared to have their activities stopped, clothing collab with ohmonah featuring first four tempus members started.
My guess is, in order to keep the good relationship with the collab partner and ensure that their overpriced merch sells despite 50% of featured members fucking off in a bit, management made the call to not include vesper and magni in their group anniversary goods after all. If fans wanted chance to buy last merch for their oshis, it'd have to be from ohmonah store.
That's my rrat

>>57596836
Wasnt the fans already poached straight into their rm before even the graduation stuff. Why would these retards buy merch from company they anti now

>>57624804
Just add it to the long list of bullshit lies.

>>57596836
>graduated

>>57624804
Only type of weed that causes withdrawals are synthetic ones and I wouldn't be surprised if he uses that.

>>57596836
They didn't graduate, they just weren't terminated
Magni and Vesper refused to sign contracts

>>57645384
They're still officially graduated, its just that their contract expired before graduation can take place.
The date even match the recruitment and announcement. Between this and the lack of bad behavior accusation from both sides, 100% to say they left on their own terms.

>>57596904
thanks for the info

>>57597609
hey, what's wrong with girl_dm?

I'm glad my Sana had a nice, heartfelt graduation
I'm sorry that the Vespies and Mags didn't get one

>>57650588
Kind of, but they returned to RM activities the Saturday after graduation was announced, so a lot of Vesties and Magmites were satisfied with that.

>>57610453
>wanted to fuck them over on the way out.
there was 7 weeks of negotiations, I think they tried to work things out and couldn't get past a problem. These things happen, they were not trying to cause more problems then necessary.

>>57645729
Cover would only damage their reputation if they admitted they fired half a Tempus gen while Vesper and Magni can't say anything because they signed NDAs.

>>57622101
Can you post a video + timestamp for this? Or is it just rumor milling?
>>57623980
Maybe the dude abuses the shit out of xanax or some shit. I assume he's on a cocktail of numerous things, besides - Vesper's Ketamine Menhara Arc Adventures doesn't sound that far fetched.

>>57624916
Who would've known the whole dumbass plastic-ball story and breaking character to shout OMG IM HERE, WOW I CANT BELIEVE I MADE IT!! would've been a good cover for so long.

But he could only keep up that mask for a bit, the very first road-bump he completely folded like a fucking lawnchair.

Still hate that Magni turned out to be such a shitty person, but what can you do?