/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

400k/y but that assumes they stream at least 15 hrs a week.

>>57669267
Vtubers don't make $300K/Y

If anything Vtubers average between $0 - $1000K Depending on *Simps*, Sponsorships, Coporational Money Laundering and more.

Also as usual. Expect most *1-20 Viewer Vtuber* to be broke as fuck because of lack of support from viewers and over-dependance on Freemium content instead of *subscribed Content*.

>>57669365
Sounds like bullshit, I'll trust >>57669311 over that kinda hyperbole

4chan is like Bizarroworld. The truth is the lie and the lie is the truth.

>>57669267
Depends, if you're a female chuuba in an agency you could probably make that much or more depending on your popularity. Males even less than that since they're not as popular

Every time someone in 4chan says they support. Take a drink of Whisky or Rum.

They are lying through their fucking teeth.

Most streamers don’t make anything.I average 20 to 30 viewers and I make the minimum threshold for twitch payouts ($50) every two weeks, so I can afford a new game or two every month or so.

>>57669267
The mode would be 0, the median not a great deal higher.

>>57669675
Cope
>>57669649
More cope

>>57669737
Its not cope. Its facts. Streamers make shit money for a career on average. Only about 3% of streamers make above $5K within a month and that's not saying a whole lot.

https://youtu.be/8kp2AE2SKLE

>>57669267
>300k
A small percentage at the top has skewed your perception on the legions upon legions of 0/1/2view shitters who make no money at all

>>57669775
>>57669835
Streamers, not vtubers lol

OP still doesn't have an answer

Median?
Probably like -$500 given most vtubers probably spend more than they ever will earn.

>>57670365
No way

>>57670404
Way

The median vtuber operates at a loss and does it as a hobby after their day job

>>57670418
Nope, just look at hololive

>>57670502
Oh yeah forgot about them, -$499.9999999999.

>>57670518
You sound jelly

>>57670667
Yes. Very.

>>57670675
Yeah I knew it, average vtuber makes way more.

>>57670990
Average? Yeah probably. Median? No. Did you pass year 6 mathematics?

>>57669267
Most vtubers earn about 500k per year, assuming youre from USA or Japan. Third worlders bring the median down

>>57671019
See
>>57671051

PS I know what median is

>>57671126
Oh I didn't know. I think anon is low balling. Vtubers earn minimum $1M a year. You've got to account for things like merch sales.

>>57669267
>How much does the median vtuber make?
Median in this case is the value where half of vtubers make more and half make less. Given the massive number of vtubers who aren't even monetized my guess is the median vtuber actually makes no money at all, and if they do make any money it's only a tiny fraction of what a person needs to live on. The shat that make even $100k/y is way under 1%.

>>57671191
>shat
*share

>>57669267
>median
close to 0

>>57669267
The median tuber probably makes barely anything at all.

>>57671366
>>57671275
Cope

>>57671411
learn math

>>57671446
No anon, you're literally coping. Average hololiver does millions and average vtuber at least 100k

>>57671524
retard

>>57669267
90% of vtubers (or hell streamers in general) have less than 10 viewers, they make jack shit and if you'd do a honest accounting it's a net money loss. Which is fine if they just do it for the hobby fun and don't have any aspirations of actually quitting their dayjob where they certainly make more per hour.

The magic threshold where you become "self-sufficient" (as in, you can afford to live solely off of streaming - mind you, not become "rich", but you can at least pay everyday bills like rent and food etc and streaming is as or even more worthwhile for the hours invested than just working a normie dayjob) depends on some variables.
What are your income requirements to be able to stream full-time? Do you live at your parents' home (no rent) or how much other expenses do you have to service? Do you live in a high cost of living area or in some third-world mudhut? Depending on that you can make do with a lower five-figure annual income or not.

You can look through some charts of those vtuber aggregate websites that track that shit. Sort the list by SC income (of course, SC's aren't everything, so depending on how generous you are you can double these figures for total income including merch, memberships, sponsorships etc), and count how many vtubers meet whatever your arbitrary magic income threshold is. Maybe in the low hundreds, and even that distribution is heavily lopsided (a very small few at the top make most of the bank, then there are some who barely make do, and then there's the long tail of unwashed masses who make fuck all), out of the thousands of vtubers that exist.

>>57671541
nice cope. Keep repeating vtubers are poor and maybe it's gonna be real

>>57671524
Learn what average and median means

>>57671570
I know what average and median mean, I just use them interchargeably

It's always funny that for an average normalfag "vtubers" means "hololive + nijisanji + vshojo + 1-3 smaller corpos they're aware of". It literally takes a few seconds to check the "vtuber" tag on youtube and twitch and discover a vast fucking ocean of desperate 1views. Many of them stream consistently for *years* remaining at best low 2 views. They don't even consider it a bad thing because it's a hobby for them and they're content with it - otherwise they would've quit after a month or so.
Even bigger vtubers can end up in a net negative. Your average utaite barely earns shit because releasing a single fucking cover song can be multitudes more expensive than getting a live2d model+rig. Then there're hobbyists like Suvidriel, who, despite having very decent numbers for an indie, spends a fuckton of money on vtuber gear and a fuckton of time on vtubing software, which can be downloaded by anyone for free.
Talking about live2d+rig, this is where the real money are in this industry. Since there's a lot of wannabe vtubers, there's a huge demand for models. Skills wise making a model is actually not difficult at all for an average artist, neither is learning how to rig. It all comes down to just how much time you're willing to spend polishing it. Both artists and riggers charge hilariously exorbitant money for their product even if it is subpar at best because wannabe vtubers and their audience can't tell the difference or don't care in the first place.
tl;dr this anon is absolutely right >>57670365

Man. What a bunch of retards Vtubers are.

>>57670502
Hololive is not anywhere close to median, do you know what the word means?

Why are so many people replying earnestly to such an obvious shitposter?

>>57671730
How is vtubing even expensive just use a camera nigger lmao

>>57671739
You got 1....10, 5 is the median

>>57671663
>I know what average and median mean, I just use them interchangeably
So you're saying you're not really stupid, just dishonest?

>>57671730
$1k

>>57671953
Report it as a troll post and ignore them. This thread is about to die anyways since it warrent no continuance of discussion.

Majority of Vtubers are NGMIs as a career and its mainly a hobby since majority of them are either *Have jobs that satisfy* or *have spoon fed $ from parents*

>>57671730
The thing is the gap between a "good" artist and a good artist is massive. Lots of artists on twitter have learnt how to draw anime but they can only draw in a particular style, only particular poses and have a bad case of sameface plus a bunch of other limitations. Whereas an artists who is actually good did the fundie grinding hell and it pays dividends when they can draw whatever, in whichever style and however they want. Lots of normies without an art background cannot distinguish the two and get fucked over with "good" artists charging the same as good artists, but it's also why classically trained L2D artists can charge huge amounts.

>>57672087
Majority of vtubers are future millionaires waiting for their turn

>>57669267
Isn't getting to be a 3view like1% of chuubas?
They probably don't get much. Holos are the only ones to get much even with that not many of them break 1mil a year

>>57672416
yeah they all only break 300k

>>57672440
The big ones like Pekora might break 1mil

>>57669267
98% of them make peanuts and need a side job. These are youtubers; not Hollywood mannequins. Things aren't that lucrative for the idols even at the very top.

Let's look at HoloLive as an extreme example:
Depending on source-estimate, only ~30% of the Superchats actually go to them. Ditto for Memberships. (Anyone who's ever had a consignment job can tell you that's actually generous. Usually you get 10-20%) And they technically 'have' a salary but it's the same sort as tipped employees like waitress where it's entirely eaten up in taxes and you're supposed to live your tips. And, as far as merch goes... some of the girls are unaware they even 'have' merch sometimes, which says enough about how little, if any, of that trickles down to them. Corpos are only really lucrative for the shareholders.

So, to put a number on this, let's go to Hololyzer and look at Kronii just to pick an example.

+ Let's assume, as mentioned earlier, that her regular salary and her taxes cancel each other out. (That's usually the norm for commissioned or tipped employees and makes the calculation much easier.)

+ So, Kronii's median SC ranking is ~￥250,000 or ~1,700 USD.
+ Let's assume the generous 30% cut; 30% of 1700 is 510 USD.
+ Let say she streams biweekly, so 8 streams a month; 510 x 8 = 4080 USD per month.

+ Now, for memberships. The highest number of members ever seen on one of her streams at once was 1890 for her anniversary, which is probably as close to perfect attendance as it's gonna get, so let's just say 2000 is the norm.
+ Monthly membership is 5 USD. So; 5 x 2000 = 10,000 USD monthly from her regular members.
+ Again, let's say her cut is the generous 30%. 30% of 10,000 is 3000 USD.

+ So, we add 4080 from SCs to 3000 from memberships to get an income estimate of $7080 monthly.

+ There's 12 months in a year, so 7080 x 12 = An annual salary estimate of 84,960 USD for Ouro Kronii.

And this, I remind you, is at the VERY top. I guarantee you that no vtuber, not even Gura, has ever made $300k annually. There's a reason why half of these girls still live with their mother.

tl;dr: If you plug the math, the holo idols are turning about the same salary as a mid-tier white collar job. I was making about the same as Kronii's estimate during my own stint as a corpo scumbag. They're not poor, but a far cry from rich.

>>57674142
This is a lie because Mori has said she is in the highest tax bracket in both the US and Japan and for federal taxes the highest income is $578,126

>the median vtuber
I think a lot of people in this thread don't realize how many 1views there are

>>57669267
Let use this as frame of reference
Most 3 view VTubers are very much middle class American or equivalent.
We know Mori, who is a double citizen at one time, got hit with tax bracket so fucked that she decided to move out of Japan.
We can therefore assume Mori earns on the higher scale of Japan tax bracket, anywhere between 20 to 50 million yen. And she's a 4 view.
Then look at fucking Parrot, who is 100 view, is a poorfag in Cambodia.
Simply put, you can say >1000 view = comfortably upper middle class.

>>57674326
She said she has to pay double-taxes, not that she was 'fabulously wealthy'.
Also, has it occurred to you that she may not have fact-checked herself for an offhand comment made while streaming? She may have easily been speaking hyperbolically. OR even mistaken since she doesn't do her own taxes.

>>57674562
No. Fuck you retard.

https://youtu.be/XFkjWTZaapQ?si=c_vhKSbLwqVcCCfn&t=133
She explicitly and confidently stated she was in the top tax bracket. Unless you're going to provide proof otherwise, shut the fuck up.

>>57674862
>says she pays 40-50%
>America's top tax bracket is 37% (https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/federal-income-tax-brackets))
>moron does not believe she could have been mistaken
Math wasn't your strong suit, huh? Or reading-comprehension?

>>57672185
>classically trained L2D artists
elaborate, i'm pretty sure the rigging process is standard, unless there's another software that does L2D differently

>>57669775
5k a month is great

>>57675126
That's Jap tack bracket...
ON TOP of her American tax, mind you. That's why she fucked off Japan.

>>57675126
Alright fucking brownoid who can't understand english.

https://youtu.be/XFkjWTZaapQ?si=9toWF5C42u69kieU&t=47
>Have you ever wanted to pay 80% of all the money you earnt to the government?
Mori's total tax is 80%.

https://youtu.be/XFkjWTZaapQ?si=849Br_qirx0WnE-Y&t=125
>Depending on what tax bracket your in you pay more taxes[...]in Japan at least. I think same in America I'm pretty sure. I'm in the top tax bracket. So you pay the maximum amount
Mori confirms she is in the top tax bracket for Japan and America and pay the maximum amount of taxes.

https://youtu.be/XFkjWTZaapQ?si=uYbCFSeWkPYYzBxg&t=150
>Pay 40-50% and you pay the same amount in America
Mori confirms she pays 40-50% taxes in Japan and another 40-50% in America

>>America's top tax bracket is 37%
Fucking retard. That is only the federal income tax. State's also levy their own income taxes. Which would easily bring Mori up to 45-50%.

I'm not going to reply to you anymore since it's clear your brown.

>>57669267
>How much does the median vtuber make?
Do you mean like the median hololive vtuber? Or median 5k CCV vtuber?
Because the median vtuber probably have 1-2 viewers and makes 0 dollars a year

median of all chuubas would be around 300 - 500 bucks i guess
90% of all chuubas in general make 0 bucks guarantied
~7% would make 100 - 500
~2% would make 1k - 3k
and less then 1% makes 100k - 500k
that would be very good estimates if you go for the median of all chuubas

The key word in the OP is median. The median is not affected by the top earners at Hololive having an outstanding year. Therefore, the median earnings of vtubers are nearly identical to the median earnings of any other streamer, and is measured somewhere around pennies.
Remember that 99% of vtubers never break 100 views and struggle to make pocket change. There are thousands who have attempted.

>anons seriously not understanding the difference between mean and median, something that 12 year olds learn in class
some of you should have paid more attention in school instead of getting into weeb shit

>>57675184
I meant drawing a L2D model. Rigging is just a matter of brute force.

I was gonna legitimately respond to the question and then I started thinking about how pathetic japs are that vtubers, especially hololive, is mainstream entertainment

It’s fine as a fringes of society thing but when it’s talked about constantly on normie tv and there are ads plastered everywhere on the streets holy shit what a failure of a society.

>>57675812
Anon... the median is defined as the value at the 50th percentile position (i.e. middle) of a distribution. So, if you yourself admit that "90% of chuubas make 0 bucks", it logically follows from there (because the 50% position is within that 90%) that the median a vtuber makes is zero (or more generously realistic, penny amounts that are functionally equivalent to zero), and not "300-500 bucks" which by your own estimation would already be in the 90-97 percentile.

And even if you've confused "median" with "average" (sum of all values divided by occurances), like so many do, well even the average earnings of all vtubers would certainly be less than 300-500 viewers. Yes, there are a few at the top who make some bank (but even that is often overstated - the absolute top of fleshstreamers can make multiple tens of $millions per year, while the absolute top of vtubers make "only" one or lower single-digit $million, mostly because they are corpo and the company makes the deals for them and takes its cut, compared to free fleshstreamers who can make their own much more profitable deals) because there are just soooo many thousands of ngmi 1view and 0view vtubers that they drive down the aggregate average back to a pitiful sum and even a few good earners at the top can't skew the average too significantly.

>>57676776
How so? Please enlighten us what other better mainstream entertainment should be normalized instead.
I'd rather have vtubers than whatever pozzed nigger garbage is sold as "mainstream entertainment" in the current west.

>>57676776
Yeah I'd rather gay nigger trannies trying to touch my kids.

>>57676908
Look you can cry about nigger shit all you want but it’s still more respectable as entertainment on a national scale than anime girlfriend simulator.
On an individual level I’d rather talk to someone that likes vtubers than someone that’s super into rap and hood shit but what does it say about a society that a noticeably large portion of its population likes watching middle aged women pretend to be cartoon girls while being only mildly entertaining to people that don’t want to have sex with their png

>>57677094
>Look you can cry about nigger shit all you want but it’s still more respectable as entertainment on a national scale than anime girlfriend simulator.
This retard actually typed this.

>>57676776
vtubers are an otaku thing, most normies don't know anything about them and some of them straight up think it's weird. just because there's ads and some can make it on TV doesn't change that.
fans buy ads for their oshi's birthday, anyone who has money can put up an ad, so for a company with an actual budget and things to promote it's even easier. it's like kpop in korea, you see those kpop dudes everywhere in the subway and they make it on music charts due to their fans heavily streaming the songs but it's all fan-driven and the average normie doesn't give a shit about it.

>>57674326
Mori makes a bunch of money from her music and other side gigs, both as Mori and on her roommate. So just because she's making enough to be in the top tax bracket doesn't mean it's all from streaming.

>>57677238
Mori's music and RM are only popular because of Mori's streaming. Majority of Mori's income definitely comes from supas, memberships and merch.

>>57677142
>nooooo jacking off to my anime waifu is more respectable than music I don’t like retard!!!11!!1!
You’re too far gone. Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.

>>57677341
>m-muh music
go back

>>57677341
I'll take anime girls over being literally brainwashed by jews in hollywood promoting niggers talking about how many white women they raped yesterday.

>>57677336
She's currently involved in a collab with the best-selling manga of all time. No, this is where her money comes from, not superchats.

>>57677094
>it’s still more respectable
You're not wrong. Your problem is that you believe that adjusting your life (including hobbies) to conform to societal standards in fucking 2023 is a good thing. I honestly hope you don't get kids because you're gonna mutilate them.

>>57677648
>Reading comprehension

>>57674142
Superchat data is publicly available. Chat data is also available here (last update August 2022): https://github.com/sigvt/vtuber-livechat-dataset

It can be used to estimate the monthly number of members.

In 2021 Gura generated about 1.3M in revenue from superchats and memberships alone. 30% cut of it is about 400k.

In the same year Pekora generated about 1.6M.
Coco: 2.2M
Rushia: 2M
Lamy: 1.3M
Watame: 1.1M
Kiara: 1M
Mori: 1.1M

For reference in 2022 Amoranth claims to make 1.3-1.4M/mo from OF, 100k/mo from Patreon, and 100k/mo from Twitch. This comes to about 18M/y (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AQaTpiIbCSE))

Top Vtubers still make peanuts compared to top streamers in general.

Filian for example makes about <300k/y pre Twitch cut in subscriptions.

>>57678931
I mean Gura is probably earning over half a mil a year in just merch.

>>57678931
I wonder when wagies tip over and start demanding excessive taxation on streamers

Some anons said that 50 viewers consistently is good nowadays. Are they full of shit or what? On youtube or twitch I mean. Sometimes I see their viewcount is pretty low but then the vod shoots up to maybe under 1k speaking youtube here.

In comparison to from corpo like say kurosanji I watch Enna so her streams depending on the game is 1.8k-2.5k (for a game like zomboid) to some new game 3-5k to her karaoke's from 7k to 25k but her vods shoot up to 30 to 100k+ I'm guessing they come with ads up the ass. Not counting her memba's, SC's, and streamlab.

>>57669267
low end is 800k

high end like pekora is 20 million

>>57674142
>>57678931
You are completely forgetting revenue streams that aren't streaming/memberships, aka merch and sponsorships.
I do not have the numbers to state how much they swing it up or down, but each vtuber tends to have 2 merch runs where they partially fund it for a greater cut.
Of course, this is hololive exclusive and shouldn't be applied to Niji.

>>57682557
This!

>>57674142
1. kronii is far from the top
2. gura, kiara, and mori made a million in super chats alone their first year and I don’t mean yen
3. Your math for members is retarded because you can check likes or polls on recent post or more accurately their emote slots which correlate to member count
4. You’ve ignored ad rev which for someone like Gura who gets 99% of her views from actual vods is tens of thousands per month
5. You’re ignoring merch which at the minimum is 100k per run because most do a limited of 1k-5k at $80-$140 and sell out that limited run. And that just means the hand written signature is gone you can still buy the merch.
So even at a 30% cut of all them Gura’s first year is $300k supers, $108k in members (minimum 5k), $144k in ad rev (USA), and $24,000 (Minimum price of 80 and 1k limited) all while assuming she’s only getting 30% for all of these. Look at that first year minimum is $576,000 and the keyword is minimum. Last year her birthday broke an in company record this year her and pekora sold thousands of expensive figures holding the top 2 spots for a full month. And probably the most important part the top 20 members brought in 60% of the company’s income with number 1 bringing in $5.6 million alone. They obviously don’t take that home but even at 10% that’s $560k and at 30% it’s $1.6 million. Retard

>>57677238
You’re retarded

>>57677648
You’re extremely retarded

>>57674142
Mate, they get money for VOD views and sponsorships as well.

>>57675414
>Texas doesn’t have a state tax.
>She was saying it’s pretty much the same in America not that she does.
>80% is an exaggeration you know hyperbole and you want to know why I know that because she wouldn’t be able to afford the expensive houses she bought with only 20%
Cuckbeats are so retarded there’s a literal slam dunk in the fact that you have her lifetime superchats but you’d rather make yourself look dumb.

>>57669267
The median income for a vtuber would be "maybe enough to get mcdonald's a couple times a week" aka like $500 a year and that's generous. There are thousands of 1views who have like 10 subs/members and get like 0-10 donations a stream and this is assuming that 1view is streaming a ton of hours most of the week i.e actually-trying. A 1view streaming like once a week or some such, who knows if they're even noticed at all.

2views still probably don't make remotely enough to live on and make either almost-nothing still or "enough that it counts as a side gig" like 1-5k a year I'd guess.

low 3views can maybe make some money and because 100-1k is such a spread probably a fair few 3views can live off what they're doing by this point if not make a lot actually if they're coomer or GFE farmers many are at that point. The ones who insisted on some ugly model/unattractive content, insist on doing things the vtuber audience commonly doesn't like usually don't ever get to this point to begin with.

4views I'd assume should be able to make it, even if they have low visible donations the subs/memberships are doing heavy lifting at this point in the background more likely than not. Even so, if someone has 200 members that's like 1k a month pre-cuts and I only think of the top corpos and indies as having memberships numbering in the thousands (probably wrong there).

>>57677757
No he is wrong their is no global societal standards when every country is different. Yea I’m sure Japan is worried about vtubers making them look bad when it’s normal to decapitate gays in the middle east or Canada’s extremely enthusiastic assisted suicide and lets not forget Europeans arresting you for bad words. Faggot

>>57689344
Anon, Gura is literally at the top of Hololive. Do the same math for an average Hololive talent and you'll see they're barely making more than a West Coast Coding Monkey.

>>57674142
holo income boosts come from the merch, of which they get some unknown cut but apparently it's substantial because Coco mocked the hell out of nijisanji's 2%. so we know it's not 2% at least, let's say it's 5-10% as absolute lowball (could really be more like 20-30+, members have openly said the merch is actually the best way to support them).

gura's dino plush was known to have brought in millions to Cover all by itself. if it's like 5m and Gura got 10% that's 500k. off just that stupid little plushie. there are also voice packs/nendoroids/the random knickknack crap like acrylic stands etc too. basically you can at minimum double the calculations based on that, for Holo in specific, assuming the girl is getting consistent merch.

>>57689929
Tourist here, does 2view mean 0-99? 3view 100-999? Seems kinda excessive to get 1-5k for 40 viewers

>>57678931
Fillian makes way less than that but why did you bring up Amoranth her streaming revenue would cap at 2.4 million? Onlyfans isn’t streamer revenue or are you going to add in porn stars as well? Most of them make less than streamers so that would skew them even higher

>>57690093
>Almost every single member does limited merch 2 times a year
>Limited merch goes from 1k-5k
>Even after that it’s still made to order
Bare minimum $69 with the minimum 1k limited is $42k a year. Mid range is $90 with a 2k limited which is $108k a year
This is no superchats, members, ad rev, sponsors, and no performance fees just merch alone with a 30% cut (it’s actually more than that). Barring the Homos the only way you make less than 200k is if you try to screw yourself.
*ID is currency might as well be rocks so while not technically reaching that level their standard of living puts them at the upper end

>>57690198
2view is two digit, 10-99. they probably make nothing, but a few of them (the types that might actually go on to grow further and stream consistently) may have a couple whales and even a single whale can pretty much pay a girl's rent if he's really-trying. a handful of whales would keep her set because sometimes they'll try to compete with each other for her attention, although it's a delicate situation assuming they'll all keep paying at that rate - can the girl maintain that level of interest, and is the whale's income itself sustainable to support her on. some whales are burger flippers maxing credit cards and can't actually sustain it for long trying to look impressive to groom her, and some actually-have money and throwing 50k a year at someone is doable, even jobs considered just middle-class like nurse or electrician actually can easily do this.

>>57690106
Gura is the definition of an exception to every rule not just in Hololive and you’re being dumb. Standard merch like acrylics and shit handled by company like council’s outfit merch gives an incredibly small cut. Birthday, Anniversary, Special event merch (depending on the event) has the cost fronted by the talents so they get a huge cut. Voice packs are probably 50% like niji

>>57690198
You are correct that is 2 and 3 views. The average to above average 2-3 view needs a day job and a really good one because their stream income will at most be enough to pay for food and nice things like decently priced clothes. There are only 2-3 known exceptions to this rule and that’s Idol, Nene from Kawaii, and a few girls in Vreverie. All of them vtubers and all of them extreme gfe. There’s also Miori but she’s a rare case within a rare case. Streaming is a weird game because as a 3 view on youtube or twitch you range from nice side gig to able to quit your job but as a 4 view and I mean 1-2k people you could make a million dollars. 3 view in a corpo is better than on your but 4 view is objectively better your own good thing woman aren’t good at business or negotiations

>>57674142
You're not taking in account sponsors and merch which are easily over half their income.
Kronii is pretty in the low tier too.

>>57690040
>decapitating gays in the middle east is bad... faggot
I'm sure you care about that very much dipshit. Back to your handler Jakartabro

>Twitch

For you folks trying to guestimate what size vtuber can make it, we can work backwards.

For a pre tax take home of 100k/y & assuming 50% split with the platform, the channel would have to generate about 200k/y in revenue. That is about 3,333 subscriptions per month on Twitch.

For reference, Shylily draws about >6000 subscriptions monthly.

In terms of YouTube, it is more common to have a 50/50 split between memberships and superchats.

For corporate Vtubers that take home say 50% of post platform take (25% overall). they would have to generate about 400k in revenue or about 6,666 in subscriptions per month. 2021 Roboco and Polka where around this number.

This of course does not take into account other sources of revenue or operating expenses.