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HOMOCHAD DOMINATION
HOLOPUSSY STRETCHING
HOLOWOMB FILLED

>> No.57750788

It's over, I'll be going back to Luna and Koyori.

>> No.57750791

>surprised that the hoshikawa clone acts like a slut
I'm going all in on the red hair girl

>> No.57750851

>>57750606
Its only one right? 4/5 aint bad

>> No.57750927

HOLOPUSSY STATUS STRETCHED KEK

>> No.57751016

so i was right already. they are gonna collab with homos. it will 100% happen.

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>>57750606
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.57751127

Regloss collabing with males is okay because they're japanese. It's part of their culture and they're are very professional.

>> No.57751130

>>57750606
Different branch, like INNK in the past, so it was to be expected. Azki and Suisei weren't really worried about that so brace yourselves for the other ReGLOSS members to not care, too.

>> No.57751196

>>57750606
I liked her the most... what a shame

>> No.57751228

>>57750606
>homobeggars on suicide watch after not a mix gen
>look for crumbs on twitard
kek

>> No.57751243

JAP-SAMA TASUKETE

>> No.57751245

>>57750606
She reply to a lot of people i dont even see that tweet.

>> No.57751330
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>>57750606
good for them

>> No.57751361

2 more weeks sisters... our time has come.

>> No.57751415

>already being a total kouhai whore

kek, but they literally are for homos. the jp management wants to make a niji-ish "community" beyond "gender" lolololol exactly the same shit as hlzntl

>> No.57751458

>>57750606
>HOMOCHAD DOMINATION
yeah, me
>HOLOPUSSY STRETCHING
by me
>HOLOWOMB FILLED
all me

>> No.57751566

>>57750606 It's almost as though it's normal to say thank you when someone says "nice song very cool". Weak shit bait at least wait till debut.

>> No.57751601

>>57750606
>HOMO-
That dude is married.

>> No.57751602

What the fuck are (You) retards even talking about?

>> No.57751703
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>>57751602
idk I just want to see girls getting dicked live

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>>57751415
god damn this will never make money, when will they stop trying to herd the cats? if you herd the cats they'll have a cultural diaspora in about 47 minutes, from one cat herd you will get a Hutu group and a Tutsi group who are exactly the same and want to obliterate each other for no reason understood to anyone else. the cats don't want to be like each other, the cats want to be special.

>> No.57752168

YAMEROOOOOO

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>>57750606
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unichads not like this... NOT LIKE THIS!

>> No.57752390

TOTAL UNICORN DEATH

>> No.57752463

>>57750606
>crying about a tweet just to distract from your oshi having a bf
Shame on u

>> No.57752494

NOOOOOOOOO MY PURE IDOL WIFE CANT INTERACT WITH A MALE!!!

>> No.57752609

>>57751016
Yeah, holoJP and Holostars interact, shocking. It's almost like men and women can interact perfectly fine.

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>>57750606

>> No.57752629

>>57752463
Why not? If people find out that I'm her bf I'm in a lot of trouble.

>> No.57752650

>>57750606
Nice a new whore to anti, I was getting bored of lapu

>> No.57752718

>>57750606
>Rikka
newfagchama...

>> No.57752752

>>57750606
Lmao, you homobeggars seething like EN viewers fuckin matter to them.. your existence wont even move an inch to their CCVs, thats for sure

>> No.57752758

>>57750606
Entirely within expectations of a virtual youtuber idol or even an irl idol. People expecting pure CGDCT are legitimately retarded

>> No.57752806

Plappa deflection thread

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>an entire thread of butthurt roasties and faggots larping outrage at a nothingburger
Damn, losing the homos and not getting the mixed gen really mindbroke the dramasisters.

>> No.57753016

>>57751458
Rikka calm down

>> No.57753045

>>57750606
nice, already filtering unicorns. looking forward to her music career

>> No.57753054

WE CAN'T STOP LOSING UNIBROS

>> No.57753077

>>57750606
I'd say dropped but I didn't give a fuck about regloss to begin with kek. They're already a massive fail because there's no demand for a gen of vsingers when Hololive is already filled with singers and the JP branch in particular doesn't need more members. Male interactions are just the final turd on top of the turd sundae.

>>57751415
>the jp management wants to make a niji-ish "community" beyond "gender"
They already got smacked down for trying to pull that shit with HLZNTL. If they try it with regloss they'll get smacked down even harder.

>> No.57753155

>>57752609
sister, thats just your mantra. not even related to the current jps direction as you know.

>> No.57753160

>>57750791
shes an ichika clone and ichika is not a whore

>> No.57753287

>>57750606
HAHAHAH JPKEKS KEEP LOSING
EN CHADS STAY WINNING

>> No.57753446

>>57753077
>If they try it with regloss they'll get smacked down even harder.

HLZNTL and Dev-iz share the same concept. regloss will do a "beyond gender" thing from the beginning so that idol/unicorn audience can be filtered in advance. im pretty sure regloss's target audience is different from holo jp, and its a phantom audience. only the management believes they exist. so i keep saying, this will flop hard.

>> No.57753571

So does one of them really have only a slight name change from their previous identity?

>> No.57753814
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you dare talk shit with an unwashed, manufactured axewound op? grim. keep dilating sisters, maybe the next gen will be mixed and/or your favorite liver might come back.

>> No.57754087

You would think with all of the market research, technical expertise, human capital, talent, and leadership, someone at Cover would tell Yagoo this is a bad investment. My only thought is that this is to satisfy a group of investors who love idols unironically, or a tax write off, or nepotism. Making a unit for a non-existent fan base could be a genius idea if they're actually good though, and could organically grow over time into a bigger success than even the main branch and completely dwarf all other projects to date. Perhaps we will see the other girls begging to leech from the Reglossy harder than Kanata for literally any Holo with a pulse. I'm projecting a delusion I had though, so I definitely wouldn't trust that to be likely.

>> No.57754111

>>57750606
Rikka is like 40 anon. Do your reps.

>> No.57754688

>>57750606
Anon, Azki and Suisei also don’t give a shit about male collabs. You really should have expected this from a singing focused branch.

>> No.57754873

Guys, relax. You have to realize this new branch is NOT aimed at you. The are targeting a new female audience. They will not pander to males.
The branch was specifically created for that elusive demographic.
They do not want unicorns with this one.

>> No.57755351

>>57753045
>nice, already filtering unicorns. looking forward to her music career
And when it's dead and gone, you'll have been long gone, trying to shit up another hobby.

>> No.57755482

none of you even watch Holostars

>> No.57755605

>>57754873
I don't really care but it's probably going to be DOA. And when it is, they're going to transfer them to Hololive proper, hoping that Hololive fans will pick up the pieces of another one of their failed attempts to salvage the Homostars.

>> No.57755851

>>57750606
>It is okay when IRyS does it
IRyStocucks...

>> No.57755888

>>57750606
Its so over it hasn't even begun

>> No.57755894
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>>57750791
>He doesn't know

>> No.57756668

>>57750606
>https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1466862576164573184
>https://twitter.com/aragamioga/status/1481233547612819457
>https://twitter.com/kageyamashien/status/1427185103512293378

>> No.57756788
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>>57750606
>sex on stream

>> No.57756900

>Girls want to be like Suisei and Sora
>Suisei and Sora do male collabs
Simple as.
It works be weird to aim for a Rushia-type audience with this group.

>> No.57756916

>>57754087
>Cover
>market research
Good joke Anon

>> No.57757032

>>57754873
>The are targeting a new female audience
RIP Regloss. 2023 - 2023

>> No.57757194

>>57756900
If you are a full misandrist like Kanata you literally cannot make it as an idol. The audiences that are interested in proper idols don't like when a girl is allergic to males.
It's why Suisei, Sora, Azki are all doing stuff, while Kanata became a reject

>> No.57757322

>>57751602
sisters desperate for a win if we're being real

>> No.57757343

>>57750606
>>57755894
How many more failures do Cover need to pull off before they get the memo? They keep sinking money on these projects for nothing. If they have so much money to spare then they should give the girls a bigger cut and motivate them to stream more and work harder.

>> No.57757377

>>57757194
She is more of an Androphobia case, Misandry has another meaning.

>> No.57757524

oh nyo

>> No.57757532

>>57756900
If any real life idol collabed with males there would be riots in Japan

>> No.57757534

>>57754873
Anon it just mean it's the hololive audience who will have to fix the shit when it inevitably fail... That's kinda our problem just we have time to prepare...

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>>57757532
Yeah. Could you imagine AKB48 girls participating in live programs with males or having joint projects? Unheard off.

>> No.57757958

>>57751601
He is also an old man. The perfect combination that make the average zoomer japanese girl ovulate.

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>>57757684
yes I can

>> No.57758783

>>57751130
>Different branch, like INNK in the past
This whole idea is such retardation on Cover's part. Just call them Gen 7 for fucks sake, it's all most people are going to see them as anyway.

>> No.57758832

Dang I guess the suspicions were right. They're gearing up to 'break the gender boundary' or whatever and do some niji-tier stuff. That's too bad I really liked their low-key designs. Oh well, plenty of chuubas in the sea, can't complain about a lack of options.

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>>57758435
Pir related had a bf, like Mumei, Fauna, Gura etc etc, you know, the ones that unicorns on this board love to prop up while shitting on other girls. Collabs had nothing to do with it

>> No.57758990

>>57750606
Rikka is married with children

>> No.57759059

>>57758832
they will become homo collbers regardless of their will. they and homostars are gonna form the niji-ish "community" and it will fail so badly.

>> No.57759094

5ch status?

>> No.57759531

>>57750606
>Feeling threatened by a married, christian old man.
unicornchama.......

>> No.57759651

>>57758435
This board accept having an IRL relationship is okay if you keep the escapism.
But decided that professional collabs and Twitter interactions mean the girl is a whore
Literal opposite of how it goes in Japan

>> No.57759816

They are not even part of Hololive Production, how is it that hard to register than they are not even trying to be idols?

>> No.57759907

>>57759816
They are trying to be idols anon. But they are not trying to do GFE.
Girls like Lamy or Rushia aren't proper idols, for example, despite being prime GG3

>> No.57759981

>>57759531
>threatened
No men in CGDCT. Don't care if they're married, 90 year old seiso ojisans, or gayer than Liberace. Get them the fuck out.

>> No.57760166

>>57750606
>every time some fagget here posts a rm they are always together with their brother or dad
>the new gen is also completly focused on music

Why are you susprised? Do you honestly think that any of them will ever be your actual gf/wife?

>> No.57760245

>>57754111
So? You think a 20 years gap and being married would stop someone from wanting to fuck women? Once a fuckboi, always a fuckboi

>> No.57760840

>>57757684
that's why the failed, if they knew the cgdct formula they would have been twice as successful

>> No.57760920

Oh no JAP BROS, a full gen of Kronis

>> No.57760986

>>57759981
It's not a CGCDT group, just like Suisei or Sora were never about that

>> No.57761107

>>57750606
Of all the Holostars you could have picked for this shitpost, you picked the middle aged man who has a wife and kids.

>> No.57761178

None of you people are familiar with actual idols outside of Hololive.

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>>57751016
oldfags try to sweep this under the rug but hololive used to be all about homo collabs

>> No.57761377

>>57759651
>>57758907
I dislike both.
checkmate anon

>> No.57761527

>>57761336
I'm an oldfag with a hololive oshi who fondly remembers these days. Antis back then had more interesting things to do than pretend to be unicorns.

>> No.57761546

>>57761336
back during their leeching days

>> No.57761753

>>57761336
i was watching them, homobeggar. those niji brotubers deserve those collabs. oozrake is still one of my fav collab groups, and i even hope it lasts.

holomems dont need to deal with your talentless 2view homostars whose average ccv 300 even though theyve streamed for fucking 3 years. they already are proven as talentless lazy pimps

>> No.57761920

>>57761753
jphomos never really did anything to warrant hate as far as I know, beyond Yagoo pushing them because he wants his pet project to succeed.

>> No.57762047

>>57761336
Sora collabed with a male within her first 10 streams lmao. And she never stopped.
GFE people really try to pretend hololive is all about them and no one else.

>> No.57762138

that's fine, we just got Advent going in the exact opposite direction and i didn't feel the need of a new JP gen so soon anyway
i guess i just won't watch them, good on them making it clear from the get go

>> No.57762374

>>57757377
It still makes her an idiot. Most live musician and theater staff are male. Most producers and managers are male. Talk show hosts? Male. That's why it's clear unicorns are retards that don't know anything about idols. No mainstream Japanese idol is retarded like Kanata or Aqua.

>> No.57762443

>>57761336
And unitroons act like they didn't invade the hobby KEK

>> No.57762486

>>57760166
It's the illusion that's important. You may never be their wife/gf but just like in real life, no man is interested in conversing with a taken women. A women without sex appeal is boring as fuck and nobody would bother watching them.

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>>57750606
>HOLOPUSSY STRETCHING

>> No.57762603

>>57757532
This is who we share a board with

>> No.57762667

>>57761920
do you understand they are nobodies for most holo jp fans, homobeggar? they are simply unfunny and boring. talentless. they are much more irrelevant than jp indie males.
why would holomems need to care for and cater to such lazy pimps who refuse to improve themselves? homocollabing only wastes holomems time, power, and potential. they are nothing but parasites.

>> No.57762706

>>57761753
Sounds more like you think the whoros deserved to leech off niji

>> No.57762838

>>57762667
so they literally haven't done anything wrong, thank you for agreeing with me

>> No.57762866

>>57761336
damn when was the last time Subaru, Ui and Maimoto made a stream together? I already forgot

>> No.57762955

>>57761920
>never really did anything to warrant hate
They exist.
If they don't want hate then stop existing. Go away.

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why do unicorns feel so comfortable here? what's the difference between a unicorn donating to a virtual e-whore vs a normalfag donating for a 3dpd e-whore and then flipping out when it turns out she's married?

>> No.57763012

>>57762866
well maimoto is dead now so you dont need to worry about that anymore

>> No.57763306

>>57763012
why are you acting mad at him? I know this is a bait thread but can't you act like if you didn't have a big dick up your ass for at least a minute and have an honest conversation?

>> No.57763333

>>57755894
I can't find that post anywhere

>> No.57763367

>>57761336
>Hololive did male collabs
>was unpopular
>Hololive shifted to CGDCT
>became wildly popular
>homobeggars pretend like male collabs within Hololive are normal and welcome because they happened in the past before Cover found the winning formula
Male collabs after the CGDCT shift that made Hololive successful are abnormal, unwelcome cancer.

>>57762047
>Sora collabed with a male within her first 10 streams lmao. And she never stopped.
And now she's one of the least popular Holos.

>> No.57763417

>>57762955
oh no EOP anons hate them, how will the holojps recover???

>> No.57763488

>>57762980
>why do unicorns feel so comfortable here?
Because Hololive is a CGDCT company and /vt/ is a CGDCT board despite constant attacks on both.

>> No.57763564

>>57762980
There is no difference, which is exactly why the newfags should be a laughing stock like the simps that existed years before them

>> No.57763813

>>57750606
Meds. Now.

>> No.57763838

>>57763306
Anon, what the FUCK are you projecting? Look at the post your responded to, how it doesn't contain anything angry at all. What is wrong with you?

>> No.57763870

>>57762980
Like previous reply said, there's no difference, that's why they come up with 100 different terms and write mucho texto copes for everything related to vtubers. They are the same, they know it and they know that 95% of what holos do is the same stuff that 3d thots do so they're trying their best to differentiate from regular pokimane simps.

>> No.57764661

>>57761336
Yes and they were all shitters when they did that, they inclined when they abandoned the homos

>> No.57764766

>>57763367
Popularity means shit in the face of soul. Just look at Rushia, that is what high numbers gfe experience gets you.

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RIRIKA WHY????

>> No.57764917

>>57762374
Japanese unicorns just don't want their idols to have boyfriends while active which desu is fair.
EN unicorns have this weird focus on male collabs of all things, I don't know why.

>> No.57764918

>>57764766
Popularity only worked in favor for most girls that didn't have problem with going the route the past, give or take, 3 years.

>> No.57764921

>>57763333
https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1698703208804479277

>> No.57765121

>>57750606
I just realized that wasn't hoshikawa in the replies kek

>> No.57765198

>>57764917
>EN unicorns have this weird focus on male collabs of all things, I don't know why.
It's a cope. There is a certain pattern among the idols of the western "unicorn".
If they want be like that, fine. But don't being that trash across the sea and start bullying JP girls over their standards. Stick to the fantasy of Fauna and Gura and leave Sora and Fubuki alone.

>> No.57765199

>>57764921
how the fuck does twitter work? I don't get it, it doesn't show up anywhere in her replies section. Fucking shitty website.

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have you said sorry to her yet?

>> No.57765348

>>57765199
okay nevermind it does I just scrolled passed it like 6 times, fuck I hate twitter

>> No.57765384

>>57762980
There isn't and seeing the copes and mental gymnastics of people that let themselves become the same as amouranth fans because they were fooled by an animated avatar is nearly the only reason I still sometimes visit this, the worst board on 4chan.

>> No.57765388

>>57761336
>used to be all about homo collabs
both unicorn and beggars are retarded, Hololive never give a shit about gender for a collab doesn't mean it's all about collab since collabs are rare compared to solo stream in the first place

>> No.57765416

>>57765344
Nah, she's still a boring unlikable bitch

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The shareholders and Cover are tired of making easy money. They crave a REAL challenge. They'll do everything they can to cut profits and make every cent EARNED

>> No.57765605

>>57763367
>Hololive shifted to CGDCT
>became wildly popular
More like Miko said nigga on stream which made foreigners go ape shit and signal boost the shit out of them.

>> No.57765676

its basically the super downgraded version of niji jp or vspo. if their average ccv doesnt even hold 1k it will be officially doa.

>>57764866
cringe. a tweet like this is nothing like a "hololive" vibe.

>> No.57766099

>>57754873
Dykes and tranny "women" are bigger unicorns than men. They think men are gross and impure while men like seeing women interact with their "bros". If they talk to males while aiming for a female audience. Expect a bigger backlash.

>> No.57766100

>>57764917
>EN unicorns have this weird focus on male collabs of all things, I don't know why.
You know the cargo cults that showed up with island natives observing the military, and then superficially imitating them without understanding shit? I get a similar feeling from western unicorns. They observe Japanese idol fans, and they don't really understand any of it, but they decided to mimicry them anyways, and that's how you get unicorn "rules" which superficially look similar to what idols have, but if you look closely they're literally the opposite.

>> No.57766397

>>57766100
Actual Japanese unicorns hate male collabs too retard
Did you miss the backlash to HLZNTL?

>> No.57766434

>a thread of homobeggars and dramafags falseflagging as unicorns and getting outraged at each other
Truly fascinating

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>>57764917
>I don't know why
Because those ain't unicorns, they're CGDCTfags. On-screen content is what matters, not their private life.
Which is hilarious because sisters and homobeggars keep on angrily spamming doxx to slight the "unicorns" when they don't even understand who they're dealing with.

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Which one of you

>> No.57766643

eops are trying to figure out something but i dont see any big difference between jp and en unicorns. most unicorns just want escapism and dont give a shit about roommates irl things as long as they dont openly talk about it. homocollabs break the immersion, also it destroys vtubers keyfabe, imagine fmwc barking like bau bau in a homocllab or pekora saying pekopeko, they will refrain from it, so homos are hated.

>> No.57766649

>>57755894
I was scrolling through her tweets and realized. I wonder if it's actually them answering or a manager? Must be exhausting making up what to answer to dozens of holomems, from every branch

>> No.57766676

>>57754087
Wdym, of course all of the market research, technical expertise, talent and leadership can't match the insight of a schizo from a mongolian basket weaving forum.

>> No.57766809

>>57757343
Almost like they can count their money better than you. No, can't be that.

>> No.57766855

>>57766495
this fucktard is also a yakkai fan

>> No.57767083

>>57758783
Considering they call previous gens their senpais, they wouldn't call them that way if they were separate thing, although homos considered separate thing too but they still call older holomems senpais right?

>> No.57767159

>>57763488
>Hololive is a CGDCT company
Never was. You CGDCT self-insert trannies invaded the hobby and try to pretend to be the original audience.

>> No.57767182

>>57751415
>the jp management wants to make a niji-ish "community" beyond "gender" lolololol exactly the same shit as hlzntl
Now that you said that it really does feel like it. Designs aren't giving this CGDCT vibe if you feel what I'm feeling.

>> No.57767357

>>57766397
There is far more nuance than that, even on the replies to HLZNTL, the idea being fought against was that management had forced Cloeh and Lui's hand.
Girls within HoloJP that collab with males don't get the hate they do in the west, and then there are other big corpos in Japan, like Nijisanji, which is far from the joke it is in the west.
The gachikoi that go as far as to not want twitter interactions like these in this thread are pretty fucking rare, and people that radical would not forgive boyfriends like >>57766484 implies they do.
You can just look at the backlash Matsuri got when people thought she had a BF, after fucking years of male collabing. Even within NijiJP if a boyfriend is discovered you are in trouble.

>> No.57767581

>>57752609
They’re basically having sex.

>> No.57767665

>>57766643
>most unicorns just want escapism and dont give a shit about roommates irl
bullshit, heavy bullshit, you don't know what gets you called a unicorn in Japan. Go try to imply that opinion in Japanese, see what happens.
>also it destroys vtubers keyfabe, imagine fmwc barking like bau bau in a homocllab or pekora saying pekopeko, they will refrain from it, so homos are hated.
FWMC and Pekora are obviously a very different types of streamers to Sora, Suisei or these new girls. No shit if you engage in that type of content people will be mad if you do it, I would be mad if Nene started doing dirty jokes with a male, because the proposal is entirely different.
But to want to claim all of Hololive for yourself and only yourself, to imply everyone needs to be Rushia or they are wrong, that is not the way to be.

>> No.57767708

>>57756668
What the hell???? HOPEKEKS???

>> No.57767802

>>57756668
>israel

>> No.57767809

DOA

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>>57750606
>third branch of the company designed in time where homocollab is being pushed
Was there ever a doubt? Dev_IS is not Hololive, but Holopro.
Be glad your oshi is spared now.

>> No.57768224

>>57766484
>Because those ain't unicorns, they're CGDCTfags. On-screen content is what matters, not their private life.
Those niggers bitched about Twitter and offline interraction, which is how this shitpost thread OP even worked in the first place.
Get away from this retarded rationalization of actual chimp behavior.

>> No.57768377

>>57766643
>keyfabe is ending every sentence with the same noise
>somehow collabing with the opposite sex destroys said keyfabe
>this fantasy justifies hating random people
Do unikeks really?

>> No.57768455

>>57768224
Twitter and offline interactions are still part of the on-screen content if they do that or talk about it under their Holo persona. The fuck are you even trying to imply here?

>> No.57768522

>>57765384
Based. I’ve never given a single cent to a vtuber and I never will.

>> No.57768631

>>57764917
>Japanese unicorns just don't want their idols to have boyfriends while active which desu is fair.
EN unicorns have this weird focus on male collabs of all things, I don't know why.
I don't want both desu. I won't watch a chuuba with a known boyfriend even if it's what kids call "doxx" information, but if she keeps it fairly clean, off stream, I dont mind giving her a rare view, like certain green woman, I'll click on her occasionally, will I support and watch her religiously or fall in love with her? No, I won't.
It's fine if you had previous experiences, I dont expect 25 yo virgin vtuber out there, but I wouldn't want a whore either, that's a drop too, but won't hate her, if she isn't a bad person.

>> No.57768640

>>57768455
BS. Most CG faggotry defense I ever seen here was "No males on stream, no mention of males on stream"
Twitter still trigger them something fierce, to the point it become regular shitpost material.

>> No.57768652

>>57766434
This is the most mentally ill board on 4chan. I’m not even sure r9k can reach these levels.

>> No.57768702

>>57765605
Maybe she should say slurs more often then!

>> No.57768899

>>57767665
>bullshit
you dont know shit about jp unicorns and since you sound like that guy who i was talking with yesterday, i wont explain it anymore. learn a difference between antis and unicorns. thats it.

>FWMC and Pekora are obviously a very different types of streamers to Sora, Suisei
keyfabe became important after "hololive fantasy" gen 3 and they normalised it. in fact gen 3 has never done a homocollab since day one. and after gen 3, older gens also gradually stopped doing homocollabs. particularly gen 2.

sora and suisei are in gen 0, and gen 0 consists of the members who were working for each independent project. they were in a different realm from other gens from the first. i mean, you cant put them as the standards of hololive jp.

>> No.57768962

>>57768631
You are mentally ill, anon.

>> No.57769028

>>57768899
>learn a difference between antis and unicorns.
Both are the same garbage.

>> No.57769067

>>57768899
>in fact gen 3 has never done a homocollab since day one
That UB hypnotist must have been a dream.
Please fuck off back to /baubau/

>> No.57769106

>>57768962
Fuck you nigger, kys, stop projecting

>> No.57769115 [DELETED] 

>>57769028
Sister, don’t forget when we were doxxing Milord for betraying us.

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>>57769067
Sister, you can still join them.

>> No.57769326

>>57769196
Who are those? You parents?

>> No.57769347

>>57769196
Keep seething and rejecting reality

>> No.57769395

>>57768640
>Twitter still trigger them
Them who? I can assure you most of these drama OPs are made and bumped by dramatrannies and homobeggars trying to fake outrage.

>> No.57769432

Sorry, I just don't understand why anyone would watch a female vtuber who collabs with males

>> No.57769630

>>57768899
Anons replying to you were not me, idk what that was about.
Anyway, I don't see why Cover can't still want to be closer to what they proposed in Gen 0, provided the girls involved are willing.

>> No.57769679

>>57766397
I don't remember seeing Japanese unicorns reacting harshly towards Mel's collabs with males

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>>57767159
>Never was
Incorrect. Hololive stopped struggling and became popular once it went the CGDCT idol route. You can try to rewrite history but you'll never succeed, sister.
>trannies
That's you though.

>> No.57769725

I don't get why the argument even centers around unicorns and gachikoi in the first place. What I wonder is why people even chomp at the bit wanting the girls to collab with the holostars to begin with? Most of you don't even watch the stars.
The only ones I find entertaining are Roberu and Aruran anyway, but its not like I NEED them to collab with the girls.
I literally lose nothing and can still watch either branch.
If anything this all just reeks of moralfaggotry and one-uppery and white-knighting. Some sort of moralistic crusade against the evil incels that want to control the girls and keep them from doing things they """""""""want""""""""" to do or some cringe like that.

>> No.57769753

>>57769196
Why does Futahomo have the most sensitive fanbase?

>> No.57769777

>>57757684
The dudes look hotter desu

>> No.57769848

>>57750606
Homos are so insignificant that I hadn't even seen this answer in the ocean of responses to the other girls...kek

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>>57769326
>>57769347
>>57769753
How do these two make you sisters seethe so hard?

>> No.57770006

>>57769028
>unicorns
>shows love, spends money
>antis
>shows hate, does not spend money
>implying they're the same thing
Why are homobeggars always so low IQ?

>> No.57770010

>>57763367
>covid happened
>hololive became popular
don't rewrite history, tranny. hololive girls were literal whos before covid. they had to leech to the nijimales for exposure.

>> No.57770012

>>57750606
It's only Rikka. This man has a whole damn family and old as shit. Actually, holos should be going to him for life advice.

>> No.57770026

>>57769715
I don't need to rewrite anything, Hololive as a company never went the CGDCT route it an still doesn't. That's why you are seething ITT (and showing your supas for some reason).

>> No.57770147

>>57769725
homostars are simply by far inferior to other male vtubers. they are in the lowest league as vtubers. thats why nobody wants them. the hololive brand doenst matter. they are simply shit.

>> No.57770183

>>57769725
>What I wonder is why people even chomp at the bit wanting the girls to collab with the holostars to begin with?
Because they want to destroy Hololive, idol culture, and vtubing in general. The homobeggar end goal is to ruin this entire hobby.

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>>57769715
>The hobby has more people after this point than it had in the past, therefore what it was initially should be forgotten. The real invaders is everyone pointing out the changes!
Enjoy your fucking CGDCT and stop causing problems, its that simple.
>>57769725
Complete reversal of reality, yes homobeggars exist and are annoying, but in this thread was not created on the pretext of homobegging.
The OP is about OP clutching pearls over the girl having twitter interactions. Its about causing problems.

>> No.57770303

>>57770192
I had assumed OP was a homobeggar concern trolling

>> No.57770305

>>57770183
Idol culture which has never included half of the shit being included in the package right now?
Again, by /vt/'s standard fucking virtual idol kizuna ai is no idol, real japanese idol companies are not idols.
but girls with girlfriends are idols, despite their fate being >>57758435 in the actual industry

>> No.57770365

>>57770183
Me when I lie

>> No.57770402

>>57770303
The problem with 4chan is that people pretending to be retarded lead to people being retarded.
Homobeggars started an issue, even Kronii helped it with her ignorant comment on "idol culture", but now its sort of creating a life of its own.

>> No.57770568

>>57770010
>>57770026
Nice try homobeggar, but Hololive became popular specifically because it ditched the male collabs and became CGDCT. Covid merely made people give vtubers a chance. The reason they got hooked on Hololive was because it offered CGDCT entertainment. This is why male collabs are now rejected with extreme prejudice.

>> No.57770620

It's true that Holo antis think that unifying Hololive and Holostars would destroy the brand. I don't know if they're right or not.

>> No.57770780

>>57770192
>Enjoy your fucking CGDCT and stop causing problems
No. It's necessary to cause problems in order to keep male collabs at bay and so that CGDCT can keep existing. Only aggressive gatekeeping can protect Hololive from both external enemies and from itself.

>> No.57770810

>>57770192
>yes homobeggars exist
Thing is, /here/ they actually don't, outside of trolling. It's mostly an illusionary enemy for the schizos to project on and valiantly fight.
But even outside they are just a tiny subset of more general collab beggars.

>> No.57770900

>>57770620
its their basic and classic strategy. its always too obvious regardless of whether its jp or en. also ofc the very minority homostars fan demand it.

>> No.57770917

>>57770305
>Again, by /vt/'s standard fucking virtual idol kizuna ai is no idol, real japanese idol companies are not idols.
Collab with men and you're a pariah. Simple as. Kizuna Ai and "real" Japanese idols are irrelevant here because we're talking about vtubers and Hololive in particular.

>> No.57770961

>>57770568
>This is why male collabs are now rejected with extreme prejudice
By 10 faggots on /vt/. They were actually the ones who caused Hololive to blow up in popularity. Got you, don't forget to dilate.

>> No.57771017

>>57770568
>CGDCT
this is anime only, tranny.

>> No.57771021

>>57770620
>I don't know if they're right or not
Look to NijiEN for the answer. the answer is yes

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>>57770961
Sister, what did Regis say about transphobia?

>> No.57771121 [DELETED] 

>>57771017
Sister… please refrain from using transphobic language >>57771046

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>>57771017
Call it however you want. Same concept, actual tranny.

>> No.57771222

>>57770780
Or, maybe, if you need to protect it from it's fans, talent and management, you should just fuck off and play out your CGDCT fantasies in your trannie community.

>> No.57771305

>>57770961
>by 10 faggots on /vt/
And by the Hololive audience in general. Kiara acknowledged that male collabs are utterly disastrous. Do you think she's afraid of 10 faggots on /vt/? Kek.

>>57771017
Hololive is CGDCT no matter how much it scalds you to admit it, trannychama.

>> No.57771312

>>57750606
The real yab is that due to falling birthrates, Cover is being pressured by the Japanese government to stop being such a unicorn company and promoting inceldom.

>> No.57771322

>>57765597
MANAGEMENTku the HEROIC business man

>> No.57771383

>>57771148
the average fagni and vespiss fan

>> No.57771386

>>57771148
>>57771305
nah, words have meaning. i don't dare change their meaning to fit a narrative, unlike trannies like (you).
>>57771121
you can have that faggot for yourself

>> No.57771410

>>57771046
How would I know what your LGBTQWERTY oshi says?

>> No.57771439

>>57762980
This is the truth, and they will seethe when they read it.

>> No.57771493

>>57770917
For the sake of putting it in paper.
Fubuki and Sora are pariahs in your opinion?

>> No.57771582

>>57770780
Gatekeeping... but we cannot bring up the one thing that really gets Japanese gachikoi riled up? Some sort of gatekeeping that benefits your oshi at the detriment of everyone's else?

>> No.57771620

>>57771222
Unicorns used gatekeeping to successfully purge Omega from Holo EN and restore it to CGDCT. We probably also played a role in Vesper and Magni getting released(we sure as fuck got inside Vesper's head). So no, we aren't going to fuck off. We're going to stay right here and continue to protect Hololive and CGDCT.

>> No.57771658

>>57771046
Regis accepts Kronii's gender identity. Why can't holo"fans"?

>> No.57771717

>>57771386
>words have meaning
Yes. For example, Hololive means CGDCT. And tranny means (you).

>> No.57771787

>>57771386
>words have meaning
Apparently they don't, considering you keep calling everyone a tranny when anons posted actual proof with pics of homotrannies.

>> No.57771885

>>57771620
You probably also played a role in the fall of Rome an Kennedy assasination. Please take all of your meds, not just the hormones.

>> No.57771941

>A tweet where she act professional to her senpai from the same corpo
>SHE IS A WHORE!
man i hate these incel femcel faggots. . . . it's my fault to visit this place to begin with. it's reeks of ppl with zero IQ.

>> No.57772049

>>57771493
>Fubuki and Sora are pariahs in your opinion?
Yes. Fubuki's popularity never recovered after she went hard on male collabs and Sora's popularity has always been very low. I'm extremely grateful for the role Fubuki played in getting Cover out of China, however.

>>57771582
>Japanese gachikoi
Irrelevant to me

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>>57771620
Anon, let me tell you a tale. A long long ago, there was a nation that held great influence within a certain vtuber company.

Things took a slight turn, and they could not accept to simply share things, they wanted to "save" things, purify things, from a clear and obvious enemy.

People told them they were being schizos, people said they were overplaying their hand. But they thought they were saving the girls.

They even made a comic about how they were saving a certain "girl" from what they considered to be the source of all their trouble. Management was evil, the other girls were evil, people pushing against the narrative were the opressors, they were causing trouble to their girl, who clearly was on their side, and was being oppressed!

"A show was cancelled because of the trouble we caused? No! SHE caused the trouble!"

In the end, they became more trouble than they were worth, everyone left and they lost everything. The end.

>> No.57772156

Expected, since Kazuraba Kouta, aka Gaim, wanted to save everyone, and she includes the boys.

>> No.57772436

>>57771885
>homobeggar denying reality
Kek. Unicorns, gachis, and CGDCT enjoyers of every variety put a stop to the nijification of Holo EN. We made it fall apart so badly that EN management got purged and replaced. And it's a fact that we got inside Vesper's head so bad that his last pyrrhic act was raiding Kiara just to piss us off. Seethe, sister.

>> No.57772464

>>57772134
The funny part is how the chinks parallel works much better with homobeggars than cgdctfags, since the former are ideologically-driven, as opposed to the latter, who only care about the girls themselves and their content.

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>>57750606
homobegGOD status?

>> No.57772638

>>57771046
>wait he did? that's why he's my oshi
>claims oshi
>doesn't actually watch streams
Most dedicated sister

>> No.57772642 [DELETED] 

>>57772134
Too bad your story has nothing to do with unicorns. Try again.

>> No.57772671

>>57772465
wazzaaaaaaaaap

>> No.57772709

>r***** s******

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>>57772671

>> No.57772729

>>57772465
>>57772671
zaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

>> No.57772850

>>57772134
Nice description of homobeggars

>> No.57773023
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>>57772464
Thinking chinks started everything because muh communism is foolish. The average hololive fan didn't give a shit about such concepts, just like the average western fan doesn't give a shit about half of the political things they say here.

The starters of the fire thought they were saving Hololive from the evil american dragon and what she was bringing, they wanted the hololive of Aqua and Fubuki being cute, not the Hololive of Coco saying swear words and doing lewd moves. They were gatekeepers.

If you were there and knew who they were, especially before shit went down, you would know they were all true fans in a sense. You don't work for hours clipping and translating something that wasn't all that popular then, if you don't really enjoy.

They wanted to put pressure to keep a certain image of Hololive.

Then they made the deal with the devil. They baited too far, too hard, the hatebase grew too much, and when they invited the communists, ihe nationalists, it was over. A lot of the earliest people to start shit were also some of the first to stop when it started to get out of control.

Once the rrat is out of the cage, it is far from simple to bring it back in. Once it starts breeding away from your view, well, you have an infestation that is out of your control.

>>57772642 >>57772731
Its a story about (you)

>> No.57773134

>>57759651
I always found that weird. I’d rather my oshi collabing with a male professionally (just like Suisei does) instead of her having a bf on my back.
The other way around is like saying you’d rather you gf cheating on you instead of her having a good coworker who she doesn’t cheats you on with.

>> No.57773151

>>57772436
Anon, all (You) did was mutilate your body and fry your brain with estrogen.
Now enjoy HLZNTL and Cover throwing more money to replace the EN homos. Total unicorn win.

>> No.57773201

>>57773134
Tweets at male coworkers are a far more serious matter than me giving condom money to some broad.

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Looks like they're going for a Mixed Idol audience like Kard
and if assuming anyone here follows Kpop, you know exactly what's going to happen

>> No.57773271

>>57773208
Provided the no-relationship rule of Japanese idols is kept it should be fine. It has worked for decades in Japan with just a few issues.

>> No.57773297

>>57772436
What does
>pyrrhic
mean? It sounds like a chad word.

>> No.57773335

>>57751566
Are you trying to say something sensible?
on MY /vt/??

>> No.57773474

>>57762374
But kanata has openly stated she doesn’t hate males and that she interacts with some of them at the studio because that’s everyday life: it’s not like everyone in the studio is a girl.

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>>57773023
>Its a story about (you)
lolno. You made a perfect analogy about homobeggars whether you realize it or not. Us CGDCT enjoyers are over here winning because we got Holo EN back on track and the girls, even Kronii, are winning too. Homobeggars, on the other hand, thought they were "saving" Holo EN from le ebil incels by pushing for intergender collabs and trying to kill CGDCT. Ultimately, all they did was cause severe harm to Holo EN and subsequently suffer a crushing defeat along with the loss of two of their precious homos. The homobeggars became more trouble than they were worth and lost everything. The end.

>> No.57773781

>>57773271
I don't want to stray to far from VTuber but... it's more of a clique issue. Basically, the rich girl is jealous to the talented girl and manage to convince the guys to isolate the talented girl, to the point where they had to perform really far away from each other.

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>>57773297
>Heh heh I'll Kiara
>bet that'll make unicorns m--ACK

>> No.57773942

no seriously what good would actually come from collabs with the males?
every single post I've read on this makes it all sound more like a culture war; more about getting your way over the other side
All this bullshit about what irl japanese idol culture is like or which Hololive culture is the "true" culture and who are the invaders, or the bullshit about unicorns and simps and whatever; why the fuck does any of that even fucking matter?
Bottom line is why is there a contingent of you so keen on pursuing a change that ostensibly has no real benefit and will only cause a large amount of fans to be disaffected?

>> No.57774057

>>57750606
whorewhorewhorewhore

>> No.57774100

>>57773674
You misunderstand me if you think I have love for the homobeggars

But those "people" are not here. What I see is the same mentality I saw back then. You have no idea how much of a rubicon being crossed these current actions are, to persecute these Japanese talents for mere tweets. All for the sake of an imaginary "omegatron" manager or to stick it to the "twitter homobeggars"? Not worth it. Things can easily escalate beyond what is within your reach.

The person who drew that comic? Good fan, used to study in Japan, really into Hololive, had been to the con and did loading art for aquatan for free. It was lame having to compile all the death threats to Coco in the twitter profile, translate it from chinese to japanese and send it to the college. It was a talented person blinded by hate and hubris.

>> No.57774135

>>57773942
Because girls want to collab with males, they just can't beat the cock,each one of them thirsting for it, but evil incels keep them on a tight leash not letting them collab,and we have to free those poor vtubers from incels grasp

>> No.57774141

>>57773151
>Anon, all (You) did was mutilate your body and fry your brain with estrogen.
Not everyone is a tranny like you, sister.
>HLZNTL
Dead in the water.
>Cover throwing more money to replace the EN homos
Not happening.

>> No.57774154

>>57773781
Daily life at nijisanji lole

>> No.57774229

>>57774135
forgive me for no-selling your facetiousness, but you're basically implying "homobegging" is based on moralfaggotry right?

>> No.57774348

>>57774100
>You have no idea how much of a rubicon being crossed these current actions are, to persecute these Japanese talents for mere tweets.
Make JP talents fear interacting with males. Probability of male collabs decreases. That's a win.
>Not worth it
Worth it.

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>>57773942
I just want more fun shit like the pizza pasta song or foxdemon
https://youtu.be/fSVFZGj0k_M?si=hWHTU7wav722B8xn

>> No.57774382

>>57774229
I don't know anon, it's just one of the angles probably. I don't actually know whether it's to own the incels, to make girls less successful, or because you they just want so. But most likely hiding under pretence of moralfaggotry(saving the girls), but actually just owning the incels(beating down on a loser, that found a corner to sit for himself)

>> No.57774446

>>57773942
They're looking for the usual sexual tension, will-they-won't-they slop that plagues normalfag entertainment. They can't fathom anything else.

>> No.57774460

>>57774370
Why, did Fubuki stop collabing with males or something?

>> No.57774491

>>57750606
of course the blonde one is the cum-craving slut

>> No.57774547

>>57774348
So are you saying I should get into stars and sexually assault few chuubas, so they won't allow male collabs anymore? I see it as a win-win

>> No.57774546

>>57773846
Oh wait wasnt that some greek war or something yeah.

>> No.57774609

>>57773942
this group isnt pushed as idols. they are band girls.

and im sure the management wants to sell regloss in the video game industry thats male dominated so they want regloss to collab/interact with homos. they believe its the "challenge/挑戦" but in reality the video game industry they see is nothing but just the "streamer industry" thats been already totally taken over by other vtuber agencies. its too late to get on the train. nothing is new.

the management gets the wrong idea on all levels honestly.

>> No.57774615

>>57762980
there's no difference but they'll jump through hoops and create fairytales to say otherwise

>> No.57774739

>>57773201
Spoken like a true cuck

>> No.57774770

She tweeted at a male??????????? It's literally all joever

>> No.57774812

>>57762980
>all these seething replies after the first correct answer
Discord sisters, assemble!

>> No.57774822

>>57774547
No, I'm saying if a chuuba is too dumb to realize that male collabs are a bad idea then fans should voice their disapproval until she gets then hint. The scenario you just made up about joining Stars and raping some chuubas is solely a product of you and your deranged mind kek.

>> No.57774995

>>57774609
I doubt they'll even play games or stream that much.
That'll only happen if they fail and get folded into the main branch

>> No.57775006

>>57774822
> then fans should voice their disapproval until she gets then hint
Oh... I agree actually, there is basically two things to it. Either chuuba ignoring her unicorn/gachi/cgdct part of fanbase or she doesn't realize that they won't like it. If she doesn't realize, then that means when they leave her, she won't understand why that happened, that's why you should be vocal about it, and only then it's up to her to cast you aside or see what you want and abide to that part of fanbase.

>> No.57775023

>>57774100
Anon, retards like the one who already replied to you or OP are already shit stirrers and homobeggars, they don't care about Hololive to begin with.
>>57774546
King of Epirus, more or less current Albania, relative of Alexander the Great. Waged war against a still small Rome for the control of South Italy, Magna Grecia at the time. Great general by all accounts, but he could not keep up with the developing roman war machine.

>> No.57775066

>>57774822
Oh and I wasn't talking about raping, just feeling up few chuubas would be enough, unless they would be into it, then we are both fired kek

>> No.57775132

>>57750606
She is the new irys

>> No.57775174

>>57774770
The fact that simply replying to a male on twitter causes backlash just reinforces the truth that intergender collabs shouldn't happen in Hololive and are not welcome.

>> No.57775195

>>57775132
Are you saying she will live in US and cater to EOPs?

>> No.57775284

>>57774995
do you really think they can get views by doing a "creator thing"? nobody gives a fuck about such a thing. and vsingers cant upload a video so frequently. azki was like that.

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>>57775006
>>57775066
Okay anon, truce. We might not agree on everything but you're officially bretty gud

>> No.57775574

>>57773942
The "cultural war" is literally just
>She must cater to me because she's my property
Vs
>She can do what she wants because it's her career
Fags usually make up excuses like "collabing with males to spite their fans" because they know their outrage looks ridiculous to neutral parties otherwise.

>> No.57775582

>>57775284
Well I think Kamitsubaki did well enough with KAF, if Cover produces them as well as they did her then it'd be a moderate success counting in the blue dorito buff.
Shit actually needs production value and marketing tough and with the average slideshow MV and weird marketing given to them it's safe to have reservations

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>>57775401
>truce
Didn't know we had some kind of fight, but alright, truce my man.

>> No.57775707

>>57775574
>She can do what she wants because it's her career
then why don't they follow through on this? most of the girls have no interest in male collabs. Isn't the fact that people beg for them to do so where "Homobeggar" came from? I mean look at the rection to that one Kanata spiel

>> No.57775922

>>57773942
>which Hololive culture is the "true" culture and who are the invaders
Simple answer is "Sora", no one can say whatever she does is not "Hololive-like" or against Hololive culture or something, she is Hololive she decides what Hololive is, tbf Hololive is very lenient to give enough freedom to every talent, Hololive is idol group but most of them barely doing real idol reps aside from mandatory concert like HoloFes and lack of music output

>> No.57776023

>>57775023
Was it basicly testudo go brrrr?

>> No.57776317

>>57775582
also you forget the official announcement says they are "vtubers", not vsingers or vmusicians so they are gonna vtube. they wont be like inonaka.

i dont even think they are musically good or have proper musical knowledge/experiences considering their character backgrounds.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/special/9521/

innonaka-zei and sora aside, even kanata, whos an ex popular talented utaite, and iroha, who can do DAW things, would be musically superior to them. so they need to be properly marketed hard as you say, but the management thinks they should be in the videogame industry or more specifically, apex/valorant/shooter scenes. as a new "challenge". which is the wrong idea.

ofc this is just my opinion.

>> No.57776526

>>57776317
I thought that was HLZNTL though, I've heard nothing about DEV_IS and esports. Unless I'm missing some sort of implication with "挑戦"

>> No.57776625

>>57776023
No, iirc they developed manipular formations during that period explicitly to counter the more rigid macedonian phalanx. Testudos were very situational, and I'm not even sure they were used before the Marian reform.

>> No.57777005

>>57771305
>Kiara acknowledged that male collabs are utterly disastrous.
When/where?

>> No.57777090

>>57775707
>most of the girls have no interest in male collabs.
Then why have most girls collabed with men on their rm? If they truly had no interest, their rm would be as spotless as their Holo account. They don't for a variety of reasons but the biggest are: drama from collabs and money from pretending to be "pure."
>I mean look at the rection to that one Kanata spiel
And compare it to the reaction to Noel's.
>Kanata:I have my own ideals of a "true idol." Collabing with a man is a bit...
And so on. Which implies she doesn't see Holos who collab with men as true idols.
>Noel: There's a male division named Holostars. While they're all hard working, I have trouble being around men who aren't my brother.
Meaning she respects her male coworkers, her female coworkers who collab with them, but chooses not to collab with men because she's shy.

>> No.57777561

>>57777090
Nobody gives a fuck tranny kys

>> No.57778005

>>57773942
There's three types of homobeggars.
1. Shipfags (nijiwatchers who enjoy shipping pairings of males and females)
2. Moralfags/normies/plebbitors (they just want to 'own the incels' or whatever and save the poor chuubas so they can be free to do whatever content they want(which they already can, no amount of bitching fans can physically stop them from homocollabs so this homobeggar type is the most braindead). this is probably the most common archetype, and overlaps a lot with shipfags)
3. Antis (they hate hololive and think getting everyone to homocollab will bring it down. they might be right about that)
4. Hardcore homos (they actually watch their homos and obsess over their success. they're willing to sacrifice the numbers of a million females in order to leech even just a hundred ccv for their homobro. this homobeggar archetype is virtually non-existent, as most homo watchers aren't numberfags)

>> No.57778061

>>57777561
>question gets asked
>question gets answered
>"Nobody gives a fuck"
woman moment

>> No.57778172

>>57777090
>shy
Come on bro…

>> No.57778620

57775574
57777090
don't be confused by this. this plebbitor is too obvious. they want to appear as a type 2, but they're actually a type 3. any true type 2 would stop responding here, but merely study as this type 3 full of vitriol continues it's tirade.
57778061
now we see it bare it's teeth. a true type 2 would never reply "woman moment" mere minutes after "she can do what she wants because it's her career". these sentiments are in direct conflict with one another, and it's clear what the true purpose behind this camouflage is. crikey, xhe's a real beauty...

>> No.57778965

>>57777090
Kanata says broad shit and then wonders why she burned bridges. Same shit that happened in NND. She could be there with Suisei but nope, gotta go overboard every time.

>> No.57778992

>>57778620
>those broken links
what the fuck is this post?

>> No.57779008

its crazy watching the jp and en branch switch stances. nobody would have expected this

>> No.57779224

>>57778172
Don't get me wrong, she's 100% full of shit but I only used "shy" to paraphrase her. The point I'm making is her response is respectful while Kanata's looks like a jab at other members.
>>57778992
Some schizo meltdown.

>> No.57779370

>>57761336
Niji JP bro tubers and my big sister Chaika. I see no problem here. None of these dudes are going to flirt with the girls on stream or any of that shit.

>> No.57779428

>>57770780
Well said

>> No.57779465

>>57779008
en is still shite. and this isnt even a jp thing since they are in a different branch

>> No.57779646

>>57773674
They could just watch NijiEN.

>> No.57779795

>>57750606
Aaand dropped.

>> No.57779798

>>57779224
>Kanata's looks like a jab at other members.
Sister, if that was the case kanata wouldn’t have helped out a confirmed whore like laplus or let azuki join kanaken. She just said she wants to stay true to her idol ideals she set up for herself and that she doesn’t apply those on other people.
Of course you would know this if you watched streams and knew Japanese, but you’re just misinterpreting shit on purpose in a pathetic attempt to throw dirt at hololive.

>> No.57779838

57778992
fucking newfag kys

>> No.57779884

Why isn't NijiEN more popular than HoloEN?

>> No.57779961

>>57777090
>Which implies she doesn't see Holos who collab with men as true idols
No, it doesn't really imply anything since Kanata said that was her personal view on idols.
Trying to spin it as
>O M G she hates her colleagues!
is truly peak /vt/sister behavior.

>> No.57780175

>>57750606
>>57755894
Cover probably wants the Niji's female audience, they debut this group outside of hololive branch to become the Homostar's accessory and future fps deal event like Horizontal.
You can really tell that they aiming for female and mix-gender this time from the design alone , It looks like a Proseca-ish (a game popular with female teenage)

>> No.57780694

>>57779798
>>57779961
"Looks like" and "is" are two different things, retard. Obviously her saying "I have my own definite image of what I consider an 'ideal idol'" and people thinking "not fitting that image = not an ideal idol" isn't going to be much of a stretch.
>she doesn't apply those to other people
The crazy part is that is never stated in the clip the anon I responded to was thinking of, which obviously leads to what I just said.

>> No.57781128

>>57757532
AND HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE HOBBY !
retards like you that aren't even Japanese acting on your own without lurking Idol culture enough runing your own retard narrative of what you THINK it is

see >>57757684

>> No.57781335

>>57780694
>The crazy part is that is never stated in the clip
What about watching the stream? Or maybe at least watching the jp clip instead of the mistranslated retardation you watched?
>doesn’t watch the stream
>only watches the spoonfed shortened version made for easy clicks that’s probably lacking context.
>doesn’t speak the language the person he’s criticizing uses and still has to have an opinion.
I’m sorry. I don’t really think you’re a sister. You’re either a redditor or retarded. Those aren’t mutually exclusive so my bet is you’re both.

>> No.57781377

>>57769725
You see, that's the thing, homobeggars don't naturally exist, or at most they exist in extremely small numbers. It's just that unicorns get pretty sensitive when it comes to male collabs, so shitposters falseflag as homobeggars to bait a couple of (you)s out of them. Since unicorns are a small group themselves this should be a tiny local conflict, however, other shitposters start falseflagging as unicorns and twisting their views to farm as much outrage as possible. Homobeggar shitposters in turn intensify their own schizophrenic ramblings. Now even people with fairly moderate views join in to resist whichever extreme they dislike more. There's only so far that a handful of shitposters and dramafags can inflate a fake war, but with the fight growing to a moderate size and the majority of the board being exposed to it, more and more people get radicalized into the ranks of one side or the other. Moderates become unicorns or homobeggars, unicorns and homobeggars become extremists. Eventually it becomes impossible to distinguish genuine extremists from shitposters. The conflict spirals into a board-wide culture war that derails any discussion. In the end the only winners are the shitposters whose baiting generates a fat (you) profit at the expense of the board becoming unusable.

>> No.57781570

>>57780694
The fuck even are those mental gymnastics? You brought up the argument that homobeggars were somehow legitimized in attacking her because she 'implied' how she doesn't think other members are real idols, which is simply not true.

>> No.57781745

Hololive is an idol group. Idols don't interact with males unless it's shaking fans' hands. It's really that simple.

>> No.57781805

>>57781745
I'd let them shake my hand if you know what I mean

>> No.57781998

>>57781335
What about reading the full sentence you greentexted?
>>57781570
Retard.

>> No.57782215

I feel like the company encourages all thr girls to interact with holostars even if it's basic twitter shit because they're such a failure of a branch that they have to shove them into things by force and generally be obnoxious about it.

>> No.57782322

>>57774460
nah, it's just been a while. I'm just in support of fun collabs like those if the chuubas want to do them.

>> No.57782500

>>57781745
This vision of idols is like looking at meme made to mock a group of people or political belief and thinking that strawman is the real deal.

>> No.57782632

>>57782500
/pol/ brainrot post, time to go back

>> No.57783145

What in the fuck is this thread they haven't even fucking debuted yet

>> No.57783161

>>57750606
This is so cringe, homobeggar-kun...

>> No.57783298

>>57762374
You are trying so hard for this semantics narrative, huh

>> No.57783514

>>57769715
Man who the fuck is trying to shitpost Shinri

>> No.57783593

>>57770026
>Hololive as a company never went the CGDCT route it an still doesn't
....Bro, we literally just had a girls only concert where they were in bikinis doing games and pulling water guns to shoot at the audience. What are you fucking TALKING ABOUT

>> No.57784189

>>57773942
More variety for music projects, less of an isolated atmosphere which opens the door for them to actually be active outside of the circle of hololive and be more likely to be invited to events since they don't have to bend over backwards to their demand to avoid men being in the same breath(like how people started to insist hololive stop doing vsaikyou because they had to change and eventually stop doing the after tourney shit where teams got shuffled and did fun little games because management requested that the girls not have any risk of being put on teams with men) and that same idea also shows a better sense of professionalism since they can trust their fans won't be as schizo when they're invited to do something like a promotional event or casting a tournament and one of the other people they'll be on the mic with is a male.

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>ITT: Unicorn subhumans literally saying harassing talents are valid strategy to keep their walled garden monkey park they took over stay erect
And you niggers think the beggars want to destroy Hololive? Good on Yagoo not giving up because of you scum.

>> No.57787186

my cute flat wife hajime is still pure!

>> No.57787432

They... what are they exactly? They will only upload covers and songs or they will also do gameplays and things like the other chubbas forgive my stupidity

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