/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

no one gives a shit about this menhera anymore, she literally has no appeal

>>579332
apex obsession killed her viewership
still earns more than most holos and (You)

>>579346
what'd she do exactly

>>579332
ID debuff

>>579332
Show us what matters, supachat numbers

>>579519
supachat numbers are good I'll give her that, but idk i remember her being way more relevant months ago, to the point of being my favourite for a while, hope it's not hitting her too hard
sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTlXlal1nt4
>>579346
i kinda agree I've seen a lack of good clips after all the Luna/Hoshikawa/Fubuki stuff ended
>>579359
Yea I don't understand why she does APEX so much, idk who finds those streams interesting

>>579598
Gura...

>>579332
her va is a looker and would unironically pull in more viewers than matsuri.

>>579396
Play nothing but apex for half a year

Matsuri doomposting was kinda funny when we were all in /hlg/, but now it has lost its charm, please stop

>>579332
her total views reamain mostly the same. it depnds on the game and content. She likes apex a lot so cant force her to lay something else.
Matsuri gained a lot of suscribers but her views on actual streams didnt fluctuate much.

>>579761
If that was the case her roomate channel would be popular, it isn't

>>579791
her what

>>579332
Nobody wants to watch 20 hours of low skill apex every week. I'd probably play better than her with my eyes closed, and sadly I don't think she's ever going to improve. She reached her skill ceiling ages ago.

>>579332
Do your archive reps, she's killed most of her sane fanbase with months of pure Apex. Don't worry her mentally insane paypigs will keep supporting the menhera until the end.

>>579799
go back or lurk

>>579866
I've noticed there are much more newfags wanting to be spoonfed than before

>>579598
>Yea I don't understand why she does APEX so much, idk who finds those streams interesting

She's completely obsessed with it because Jap fans have been saying she's awful at the game on social media and she's having an inferiority complex when compared to the other apex girls.

>>579761
Dont be fooled by makeup and filters anon. Even coco’s roommate need makeup magic

>>579906
matuli and inferiority complex are inseparable part of the greater whole

Are you implying that 2k is a bad viewer count

>>579931
For a channel with 800k subscribers? Yes.

Matsuri's strengths are chatting and singing with her viewers. She is good in collabs too. Some streamers can make any game seem entertaining no matter how bad they are at it, but not Matsuri and especially not playing shit like Apex. Single player or co-op games I find generally have a stronger atmosphere for the girls to react to.

>>579931
Moona Ollie and probably Reine would get more playing Apex.

>>579598
When I asked for the numbers I thought it would be worse than that, she's not doing bad at all for someone who averages 2k
As some other anon said, she spamming apex killed a lot of her viewers, but I'd say that when she was a big name in hololive there were way less idols, a lot of her viewers unhappy about the apex left for the recent debut of other idols
Few of the older holes stayed considerably relevant sadly

>>579996
These "competitive" games murder any kind of commentary possible. If you're bad at the game there's nothing to talk about other than how bad you're at it.

>>579598
Why does dog have so little SC

>>579791
Because she never uses it.
One of her uploads is at half a million already.

>>579359
This, also Lyger slowed down his upload since he works directly for her now.

>>579996
She need really someone to play with if she's want to keep playing Apex.

>>579884
I will find it and I will post it here out of sheer fucking spite rather than sit with my thumb up my ass waiting for someone to slip up like they did with the roommate twitter account.

>>579859
Is she at least good at the game? Playing one game over and over for so long means she surely has to be good and nice to watch, right?

>>580350
Nah, but since APEX is a Co-op game you can at very at least play together with friend or someone new the interaction can make the stream entertaining.

>>580350
Nobody in Hololive is good at Video games.

>>580329
I hope you know that is bannable offence

>>580454
On a technicality despite the several dozen rrat posts about said roommate accounts. I'll stay my vengeful hand for now; I've obtained the information I desired. Posting about girls I enjoy is better than petty revenge.

You guys do realize that people like Aqua, Towa, Fubuki and Ayame play Apex regularly right? They play longer too. Aqua plays like 10hrs each time. It's not the game. There are famous outside Holo that sustains atleast 10k viewers when playing Apex like Kuzuha or Shibuya Hal. She's just not that good at the game. She's dwindling in viewers because she's not really clipped a lot. She doesn't really have memorable moments. She's not that good at it. And even if she plays other games, her viewer numbers is pretty much the same. So let her just do whatever she wants. Those 2-3k viwers are quite hardcore. They shower her with SC and she still get the gigs. She's booked until march with vills

>>580000
Checked, and digits of truth.

>>580203
No gfe and she's bad at games.

>>580441
Aqua and Botan would probably absolutely destroy the average couch gamer soi boi fag casul in any game.

>>579332
Lost the gimmick of whore streamer to Marine since thicc is more accessible to westeners than loli.

>>580203
No GFE, people only SC at the beginning to say hi or at the end when she clears a game as congratulations.

>>579598
You have to understand how much of a shitshow HPS was.
Before HPS was hyped a lot because everyone thought they were decent to good at the game, specially Ayame. Then Matsuri had a collab with Kawase and the expectations went higher, everyone was "holy shit Matsuri is being coached by Kawase she's going to destroy everybody". This probably got to Matsuri's head alongside the fact that she's gen 1 aka the one that glues the team together with her senior status.
Then the first red flag appeared, they almost never practiced as a whole together, at best you got Roboco and Matsuri with Ayame streaming something else or not streaming at all. It wasn't until a few days before the tournament where they played together
Then the second red flag appeared, they had no chemistry whatsoever, still a lot of fans wanted them to perform well.
The rest is a complete shitshow
>Roboco kept on having technical issues, making Matsuri and Ayame spent almost all games hiding and running
>They had no other strategy
>Matsuri ended up tilting, crying and demoralizing whatever attempt was to raise the morale of the team
>Ended up in second to last place, only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>At the end in the party games, Matsuri was pretty much left alone
This whole thing destroyed her, not only her confidence as an apex player, but also as a gen 1 senpai, and ever since the game became an obsession for her, a desire to prove herself of not only as a good apex player, but also a reliable senpai.
That's why she streams apex so much, that's why she enters every tournament she can, she really wants a tournament run where she plays well, doesn't destroy her team's morale and place well on the rankings.

>>582440
Should have never touched that kind of game.

>>582440
Ayame not being around until a few days before the tourney can't be attributed to matuli, she might try to impose a bit due to seniority but she can't force the oni to show up, unless you want her to get chewed out alive for powerhara
>Matsuri and Ayame spent almost all games hiding and running
that's literally tourney/high rank meta

>>582440
Oh man I feel sympathy for the little gremlin now.
I hope she either gets her big win or gets over that game.
Second thing would be much more healthy for her mindset.

>>582440
>>583253
>Imagine relying on Ayame to show up for anything
Ayame is always busy "doing" other things.

>>579598
>Collabing with Holostars will make a Holo lose all of her paypigs
Time for people to stop spouting this bullshit narrative

>>579332
Anyone got the Matsuri copy pastas

>>583608
I've got only this one:

>Be Matsuri
>Fall in love with a girl that likes dick
>Constantly rejected by her
>Cry on twitcasts and make such a huge drama to a point some people start hating your love interest because your menhera attacks
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
>Get completely outclassed by a tomboy with a sexy onee-san voice
>Meet a qt 3.14 pro apex player
>Actually get him to coach you
>The tournament is your chance to impress him and win him over
>End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>Cry and suffer the whole time
>Met another qt in the after games, a spaghetti spilling weatherman
>You actually try to be seiso instead of the degenerate everyone is used to
>Have the time of your life
>He never calls you back
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account

How do we save her??

>>583797
She deserves what she got for the Luna business.

i dont watch her videos but livechat with 1k viewer is the best. its neither fast nor slow. easy to read and comfy.

What don't get the girls I watch are varies in skill level in Apex but still play it.

Choco
Nene lol one shot challenge if that counts
Roboco Featuring FBK that 9 hour Apex steam was hilarious.
Aqua
Towa

The latter two play Apex a lot and very good at it well Aqua especially.

Ayame too.

I think the Japanese fanbase are throwing a fit over nothing, Matsuri still does Singing streams and other stuff. Those dumbass made Matsuri want to play Apex more so I guess all that shitting on her for being bad is working against them. >_>

>>580535
Damn I missed this post while typing mine. I agree with this Anon.

>>579598
HOL UP HOL UP, is you telling me Gura got 82k in superchats? Even with Google's cut, that's 57.4k.

>simps
>not even once

>>583797
Someone help this has enough legit things here that make me doubt any of it is a rat.

She needs someone like vGorilla/Inui to calm down her nerves during dire situations. The latter was really good at instructing Roberu and his team even managed 2 champions in one day of scrims.

>>583530
She doesn't do anything, she's being done (on the reg).

>>583797
what the hell? i dont know anything with the roommate shits and her fanbase having civil war

>>583797
DMC5SE stream when

>>584374
Buddy, look at the chart. That's nothing in comparison to Rushia.
She got a million after taxes/google's cut/cover's cut.

loses in the Apex tournament and comes out in position 16. win a PC because that number is special.https://youtu.be/JZPZEVsIGyw

>>584374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVn2Iia8FJc
from just 1st and 2nd gen Matsuri is doing really good in superchats.

and also you have to take into account it's not only Google's cuts but also hololive's, girls get around 40% of a superchat

>>584637
How does she get so much?

>>584907
Her entire shtick is recognizing her super simps and reading and responding to every superchat.

>>584941
Damn, she must be very smart

>>584637
>>584906
>>584907
I'm still triggered. I had borrow 36k to swing trade pfizer for a measly 4k profit (sold for 40k). I was literally down ~8000 on Mara shares, fortunately it's up to 40 a share now. This isn't even counting my normal job.

And these hoes just play vidya with cute anime girl avatars.

J U S T
U
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>>584906
So wait

Google takes a cut
Hololive takes a cut
AND then they pay taxes on it?

Is Choco going to be okay?

Also
>tfw some jk makes more in a month than you do in half a year.

>>584267
Yeah, I feel bad for her but that really was just a really shitty thing to do. Like, maybe you didn't know how to handle her being sick? That's totally understandable, but going right back to dick lover at that precise moment almost feels like it was planned to be as cruel as possible.

>>583797
>>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
I remeber that stream, what a blessed moment goodsir

>>584907
simps

>>584969
I think they work harder than I've ever done and with more SOUL than I have in my entire body, but ngl I do feel a bit jealous.

For 2 weeks she has done a lot of streams, only apex 3 times, and still apex streams have higher views than other streams

>>580350
shes not horrible, all the hololive apex players i watched have pretty decent tracking if they use full auto guns like the smgs or r301 such as towa ayame, their movement tend to be a bit stilted tho and not very dynamic so it limits their skill. i think aqua probably sweats the hardest since she actually does proper crouch spam while other do simple strafing. then again i think JP has easier lobbies than NA some how because i see them get away with a lot more bad plays compared to NA where your ass will get lasered if you dont have proper movement. matsuri can definitely make do with learnig crouch spam and doing some aim trainning reps as opposed to spamming games

>>583797
I don't get how Matsuri can be so starved for love and just abandon Luna. I get she really likes Hoshikawa but Luna was throwing herself at her and they seemed to be really hitting it off dare I say near NoeFlare levels of teetee and then nothing.

>>585192
>Ollie
Only Ollie can save Matsuri

>>585151
I guess so. Pikamee seemed to have pretty meh jobs before becoming a vtuber, so I guess it's refreshing for her. But man it sucks sometimes. I wish I went to synagogue when I was younger and could just work and Goldman Sachs.

>>585018
idk if tax is applied before or after hololive takes a cut but yea it makes me worry for the worst performers in hololive that just get around 2K a month in donations after every cut, idk how their contract salary is like

>>579332
What matters most is that she's having fun (and still got tons of superchat). She could just do a lot of utawaku or playing the FOTM games but no, she doesn't want her to be dictated by numbers.

having 2000~ gachikoi who will stick with you no matter what (and give you all their money) is better than 10000 fairweather fans

>>581226
Aqua is the only gifted one, but she made IQ her dump stat in return.

>>585308
Nobody that obsesses over these shitty competitive online matchmaking games ever has fun.

>>585301
Consider this is only superchat money. They still get youtube revenue on some videos with ads.

>>585265
>I don't get how Matsuri can be so starved for love and just abandon Luna.
I'm pretty sure that's just narrative. Especially after seeing them on their last collab.

>>585301
they have
>base salary
>merch money
>youtube ads from VOD
>concert money
>paid promotion money

Superchat is not their main source of income. The lowest Hololive can still have more than enough money to live comfortably in Tokyo.

>>585265
She didn't abandon her, she just prefers not to take their relationship a step further.

>>585364
I don't particularly talk about Apex though, but yes she was stressed cause she struggling to keep her composure on every high tension moment. Though I believe there is still fun in that. Like when you realize that your skill has grown for example.

>>584969
Imagine having to spend your life reading the deranged ravings of ultra-simps and pretending not to be disgusted or put off in anyway, even pretending to appreciate their affection and ask for more of it, and they're constantly at risk of people drudging up irl stuff and making their schizo fanbase turn on them like rabid pigs.

Being a simp queen may pay well but fuck it must be mentally and emotionally draining

>>583797Probably most of it isn't real. Her "Roomate" account has 4 streams, and the most recent one was 4 months ago.

>>584906
>and also you have to take into account it's not only Google's cuts but also hololive's, girls get around 40% of a superchat
So does that mean Aqua only really got 35k dollars/360,000 yen?

>>579332
APEX APEX APEX DON'T YOU GUYS LOVE APEX LETS PLAY SOME APEX EVERYDAY EVERYDAY LETS GOOO APEX

>>585587
only in superchat earning. You also have to count on their memberships since they got even larger chunk of money from that.

>>582440
Imagine writing all of this

>>579332
Apesex effect

>>579332
She took the apex challenge and lost

>>583797
festival don't look...

>>585487
Yeah I guess that's true. I'd never be autistic enough to leak a vtuber's irl details, but I can see someone who spent thousands of dollars on their oshi to get triggered.

I did have a dopamine high off of gaining 16000 dollars in networth in one day and gave Pikamee a $10 superchat. I kind of felt dirty afterwards, but she seems like an enjoyable girl.

>>582440
>the other team was memeing with controllers
Thank you Shien

Streams are just not western friendly,
titles are in full Japanese with little to no english words, few live translators (lyger just spamming KAWAII instead of doing his job), stream hours don't match western hours.

>>585804
Well to be fair, his job there is to delete messages and ban people, not as live translator.

>>579332
matuli is the most unhinged person in hololive, not only she constantly ego searches and reads everything negative about her, but after doing so constantly complains and cries about it. not to mention her obsession over some people is literally at the point they treat her as their personal lolcow.

Do you think this story will end with Festival and Lyger living happily ever after?

>>585804
Hi lyger

>>585874
she is desperate, but is she THAT desperate?

>>583530
didn't show up to almost any of the scrims for Hal's recent tournament, openly said they didn't care about doing well and only wanted to do well enough to get 16th place for the free PC and then completely skipped the after party games. no one should invite Ayame or Shion to anything like that again, they couldn't give any less of a shit than they do now

>>585874
If that's the ending, the story will never end.

>>585151
>>585296
Nobody who becomes a vtuber as a full-time job (see: everyone hired after Gamers; earlier gens for the most part treated it as the part-time job it was originally advertised as) does it because they're already on a normal or successful career path already. For example:
>Rushia
Before becoming a necromancer, she was literally a part-time dishwasher
>Marine
Worked as an OL at a black company, has a bunch of stories describing how miserable it was
>Suisei
Tried to become an idol with all of the big agencies and never managed to get to the final round of auditions for any of them, was working as a waitress to fund her vtuber activities before becoming a Holo
>Watame
Worked at a bunch of different terrible low-paying jobs like hospital receptionist, hotel maid, and preschool teacher before becoming a sheep

Even for the others who've never talked about their previous occupations explicitly, their career prospects were undoubtedly poor for any number of reasons. Someone with the poor health that someone like Luna has is essentially unemployable for anything outside of no-skill, no-security low-end jobs.

>>585944
To add to this, this may well actually be part of Cover's hiring strategy. Someone that you raise up from poverty and obscurity is more likely to feel some degree of loyalty to the company and its goals.

>>579332
Why do I want to cherish and protect her so bad

>>584969
Their karma is having to deal with stalkers, mongoloid otaku simps and doxxers all day

>>585944
>>586003
This whole thing just feels kind of scummy. Maybe the Muslimbros were right about Sharia...I can't really hate on the women for exploiting simps and I'm too Jewish to be against capitalism. But, I dunno, this just doesn't seem healthy for society.

>>586021
Hijacked evolutionary processes. Interestingly enough, men are very good at picking out their offspring from a crowd of people.

>>585192
>and still apex streams have higher views than other streams
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ZNuiVUdPNEw
check again menhera boy
Those streams are thee longest, most people will only check, and click away

>>584412
That’s because all of it’s true, anon

>>586090
thanks for the page
Point still stands, apex or not average viewers are the same or sighly higher on appex streams

>>585913
Shiet, so now Shion doesn't steam as much, the fucking Ayame influenced this kusogaki. Big sad

>>584412
Most of it is true but the wording made it seem worse than what it actually was or just an exaggeration.

>>579598
How's rushia that far ahead

>>586085
You are just not a very good jew, jewbro. Rather than thinking about it in terms of exploiting simps, the way you should understand the relationships between vtubers and their paypigs is that they are providing a service that exists because the demand exists. Some people would contend that the demand in question exists because society is blighted and the system is broken, but that assertion is simply not supported by the evidence. Across all of human history, only around 40% of men produced offspring. It is in fact entirely natural that there are men who want girlfriends and can't get one because they lack the capacity or means, because this is statistically the majority of men. These are the people who are simping for vtubers today. I don't agree with the practice myself and have never donated to any vtubers, but it's not because I think there's anything fundamentally unnatural or wrong about it. You can bet that if vtubers existed in, say, England circa 900, Leofwine the tenant farmer who can't get a wife would be watching Aki religiously.

>>585888
He failed in his most basic function, to get her more fans
Menheras are surrounded by menheras

>>582440
>>583253
Even with the last Apex Tournament where Ayame played with Shion and Yomi, Ayame and her team barely practiced. They are just not competitive at heart. Well except for Yomi, both Shion and Ayame were just there to hang out.

Matsuri still became emotional after losing but this time around, she was able to respond in a mature way the haters she's getting. She apologized and said she will still play other games and still do her idol activities. Her true fans though push her to still play Apex because that is when you actually see her enjoy herself.

>>586344
People are serious when they say fans reflect their oshi.

>>586334
I'm a shabbos goy, not Jewish. But, still the problem with hypergamy is it creates a lot of losers, of both genders. How many spinsters exist today? Monogamy spreads the losses out at least. But, the main problem is, and this is going to sound edgy, but not enough young men die. Some historians actually studied this, and every so often major wars, like the Napoleonic wars or the world wars, would pop up and cull a certain % of young men. Similarly a famine or something else might also cull them. The problem nowadays is a lot of men just shouldn't exist. Think about infant mortality rates and how historically low they are. I even read an article in (((The Atlantic))) explaining how we have an excess of elites.

We really are living in interesting times. At least back in the day, Leofwine's potential wives could get jobs and were sort of forced into marriage.

>>580535
I think part of it is the expectations as well. Streaming games seems like it was less of a focus in earlier generations until the war on ASMR and increasing foreign fans who don't really know about idol shit.

>>586494
Its worse than you think.

The cost of labor, especially low-skilled labor, is not elastic, the supply-demand curve is non-linear, doubling the size of the workforce will more than halve the average wage, while halving the workforce will more than double it. The widespread entry of women into the work force meant that the average 2-income household now earns less than a 1-income household did before that entry. Every additional women who enters the workforce decreases the earning potential, and thus the desirability, of every man in the workforce. However, this also means that it decreases their own "earning" potential, i.e. half of the income of a single income household. Its counter-intuitive, but they are decreasing their own standard of living by doing so.

The problem is only going to get worse as more and more women enter the workforce instead of becoming wives and mothers because the alternative is too politically unsavory to consider in any mainstream arena.

>>585846
Kiara is a close second.

>>585018
>>585301
Choco/Mel do Hololive as a side job. Their roommate accounts are more successful and make bank off selling ASMR packs. If Choco wanted more superchats she'd do less collabs on other people's streams and more GFE on her own stream.

>>586085
The kinda work vtubers and other streamers do can only exist in a capitalist system where people with too much money don't value it properly and will throw it away to have a girl read their name. If you get into any other kinda grift-based profession like preaching or politics it's the same. People with millions or billions of dollars will throw scraps at you to be their monkey and do a dance for them.

It's also exploiting people who are otherwise talented but couldn't make it because they aren't pretty enough or young enough or have the advantage of nepotism to get the attention of a music executive or something. Even seiyuu in japan are held to ridiculous beauty standards that lock out someone like Kanata who is very good at voice acting. By all accounts the members of Hololive are all exceptionally talented and slipped through the cracks of society, shattering any concept of meritocracy or societal justice. They just happened to get lucky that some small startup tech company blew up overnight and gave them a good living for a couple years until the vtuber fad dies off.

If we lived in a system with better wealth distribution the top 1% of vtubers wouldn't make nearly as much money, but they'd at least make a more consistent income doing something that better suits their talents, because they're all very talented individuals. They'd also not need to pander to their chat with cringey 6+ hour superchat readings. Like compared to the genuine reactions and appreciation you get from indie vtubers doing it for fun sending a superchat to Hololives feels so insincere, they're only talking to you out of obligation.

>>583797
How can someone fall from grace this badly? At least she didn't nuke herself yet like Sio, I wish we could go back to the loli stream days...

>>584907
To be fair, Rushia's birthday is in January too.

>>586816
And Poruka.

>>579598
>less supas then the shark
I thought this is what you guys considered the line of failure?

>>587366
70k is already the 1% of streamers what more do you want

>>584941
And stalking them on Twitter and LINE and god knows where else. Once she gets her hooks in, they're in for life.
>>584956
She's a moron with highly evolved predatory instincts. The fuck of it all is that I don't think that she's even a little fake. When someone akas her and she goes crazy with honto ne arigatous, I think that she actually is as happy and grateful as she sounds, and that makes her paypigs happy. It's also a fun way of griefing her in minecraft. If she somehow starts reproducing female offspring, god help us all.

>>584969
why don't you become a cute anime girl?

>>587598
her 90 year old sugar daddy can't ejacilate so we are safe

>>586377
I wish her well, her apex situation is almost a carbon copy of chihiro during the 1st apex tourney where she kept getting badmouthed for being a deadweight to the team to the point she broke down in tears on stream during practice. Fast forward six months later and she got 1st place, in spite of all haters.

>>585888
What a useless sack of shit Lyger is, honestly. Imagine being so blinded by misguided oshi love that all you can do, despite being one of the most well known fan translators in the space, is sit around like a jolly-simp and spam "かわいい" instead of helping EOPs watch the stream and throw money at Matsuri. Just hug a toaster and take a bath at that point.

Also, nice trips

>>587969
why do people care so much about anime girls' performance in videogame tournaments

>>586334
>>586728
>>587184
Man, some interesting economics discussions here. Kind of glad I visited this board today and clicked on this thread for a lark.

>>586003
That's some paranoid rrating. You don't need to get conspiratorial, those are just the sorts of personalities that get into streaming.

>>587643
I'd rather work for Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanly, or JPMorgan Chase desu.

>>588058
people are weird
shrimps are especially weird

>>585357
>Aqua is the only gifted one,
>Aqua better that Botan
Are you retarded

>>579598
Korone is ranked 14?????

>>588179
Botan has never played APEX on stream so making a definitive call either way seems bizarre.

>>579332
You all are forgetting about memberships, booth and merch money she gets, not only from superchats, she is okay really.

>>588205
That begs the question, why Botan has never played Rainbow six or Apex on stream?

>>588298
Probably permissions, doesn´t COVER needs to ask for every single talent to be able to play something?

>>588205
>>588298
IIRC, she used to be the manager for some APEX e-sports team and came to hate the game immensely despite being good at it.

>>588058
I don't? I just enjoy people who spend their time trying to bring others own seethe when said person ends up succeding instead.

>>588341
Well to compound the issue was her fucking hard grind to predator

>>585892
no, but if lyger continues she will believe he is her only friend

>>588298
If I remember correctly rainbow bow 6 was to avoid faggot ass hackers ruining the experience

>>588418
True, maybe that is his end goal.

>>588298
She played Siege like once or twice on stream, you can find clips of it still. It's old, she burned out on it and Apex, and she also says it's full of cheaters at high ranks. I play on JP servers with my friend and she's not wrong, it's always crawling with chinese cheaters compared to american servers, no matter how often they ban.

>>588205
Actually there was one stream When nene was playing and botan was playing with her but not streaming it and from what I remember botan was spoon feeding her kills

>>585913
Shion has been sick and depressed since the start of January, fuck off. She's getting better now and nobody blames her for taking a break and not being highly invested in the tournament except fags that don't watch her. I can't speak for Ayame since I don't watch her but she has been streaming more often since the start of this year.

>>586085
>This whole thing just feels kind of scummy. Maybe the Muslimbros were right about Sharia...I can't really hate on the women for exploiting simps and I'm too Jewish to be against capitalism. But, I dunno, this just doesn't seem healthy for society.
It's literally the 21st century equivalent of a hostess club/geisha/oiran, this kind of exploitation has been a thing in japan since forever.
>>587184
>Like compared to the genuine reactions and appreciation you get from indie vtubers doing it for fun sending a superchat to Hololives feels so insincere, they're only talking to you out of obligation.
It's hard to keep the same happiness going for a very long time if it happens all the time. You just end up getting used to it, so i don't blame the hologirls for making it look more like a chore than the indies
>>588340
Seeing as sometimes holos all jump on the same game the exact same day, i would assume they're global rather than on a 1 on 1 scenario and they're starting to have enough talents it would be faster to just strike a deal for everyone, but maybe they have different deals for different games. If a game is ever going to be played by one girl (say some FPS only botan cares about) maybe she'll be the only one getting a permission

>>588078
I know right? No idea if it's all bullshit but it makes sense to my tiny coomer brain for what it's worth. But it is kind of a bummer that we might slowly be murdering our own society tho.

>>588349
I didn't mean you, I mean the people hating on girls for tournament performance. I just can't wrap my head around the concept of caring about a vidya tournament for entertainers (not actual esport players) so hard they can bully people into mental breakdowns.

>>588341
To expand a bit on this she was significantly better than the "team" she managed but because women's e-sports, like all women's entertainment is all about beauty she grew bitter and jaded about it. Watching a bunch of know-nothing low rank players for thousands of hours analyzing all their mistakes and seeing them fail to apply your advice every single time is probably soul-crushing.

>>586003
NGL, I have seen this happen often in 3rd world countries but it can happen and in more effective ways to individual who live in first world ones, they blame themselves for not being up to the standard of more succesful individuals despite doing everything right up that point in their lives and not making it big, it is like an attachment to something which saved you from being a total slob and reject of society so you do your 110% at it because if it falls, you fall too.

>>588050
He is doing it for free he isn't obligated to work overtime for an anime girl

>>579332
>Blows up for being cute and funny lewd girl that is actually entertaining
>decides to play apex for a year

>>589347
kek

>>583797
My favorite pasta. I feel like there's an extended version of this now

>>579332
th-there's a bug in the youtube system that shows way less viewers than there really is

>>583797
What I got out of this is that Apex is the sum of all evil. Is that about right?

>>588179
Botan like mid 30s while Aqua is at best 24.

>>584412
Wording makes it sound like a complete breakdown arc but it is indeed true, she menhera, but not Aloe level, so she might be fine for now unless someone screws her up like the Chinese antis.

>>583888
cAN´T

>>593745
Pretty much.
I don't even get why holos like shooters so much, the genre has less change and risks than fucking Dragon Quest.

>>593745
To me it sounds like it's Matsuri that has a problem. Are you going to blame alchohol for an alcoholic's life problems?
Some girls are just not very right in the head, do stupid shit for attention and ignore attention given without that stupid shit. Hopefully she will fix this at some point in her life, but it might be well after she ends her vtuber career, willingly or not.

>>579801
You sir, are a true APEX Predator! Hats off to you! kusa

>>594168
>the genre has less change and risks than fucking Dragon Quest.

>>584969
If it makes you feel any better she streamed on NND for a decade making peanuts and worked hard as an indietuber for barely 1000 subs before joining hololive, yeah the success and income of these girls is ridiculous but most of them worked hard for very little to get where they are now

>>580441
Botan is esports tier in
>CoD
so that makes her at least very good at shooters

>>584906
I fucking hate how corporate this shit has become, it's made them a lot less likely to do fun collab streams because of the revenue split.

>>588050
>>585888
These "first class" translators are elitest about speed subs and always call them out, because they know that they don't have the skill to translate something quickly and accurately so they're forced to chase the tail of someone like OtakMori.

>>581226
Botan's specialty is R6 Siege. .

>>582440
I fee like I should know what HPS is but my brain isn't working tonight.

It's more accurate to say that Matsuri's fanbase is Stockholm syndrome'd into Apex, since it's sort of like drinking her piss when you think about it.

>>595509
I thought about it and no it's not, that's gross dude

>>595609
>that's gross dude
non-Matsurisu opinions are unnecessary

Today I will remind them.

>>585944
>Worked at a bunch of different terrible low-paying jobs like hospital receptionist, hotel maid, and preschool teacher before becoming a sheep
Fucking fantastic delivery.

>>585913
Ayame is weird. She's super cute and can be very entertaining, but there's just something off about her behaviour. I don't know if it's autism or sociopathy or both. And I say this as somebody who is subscribed to her.

I believe she is possibly the most successful Holo that still works her pre-Hololive job (unless that has changed recently).

At least it's not CoD Warzone.

>>594168
The FPS genre is just as stagnant now as it was back in the late 00's with all the brown military shooters. Except now it's all rainbow battle royale and hero shooters

I think she's inclining desu. A few months ago these posts were
>500k subs
>1.5k viewers, what happened?

>>596602
I don't know her out of Hololive lore but she has a lot of health issues that probably prevent her from streaming as often. I don't really blame her at all unlike all the other vtubers who never stream.

>>597315
I don't blame her at all for irregular streaming patterns. Obviously her health comes first and it's not like she is the only holo that has had her streaming disrupted by medical issues. I'm referring moreso to her behaviour on collabs.

>>596769
Narrativefags kneel before this perfect seiso idol.

>>597447
Speaking of seiso idols, one thing I will say about Matsuri is that she is probably the best dancer in Hololive.

>>597424
What's this behavior you speak of? She's typically unreasonably invested in the games she plays during collabs and seems bad at spontaneous chitchat. I don't think that's sociopathy, maybe autism I guess.
>>597478
Aki and Towa are really good dancers as well.

>>597517
>She's typically unreasonably invested in the games she plays during collabs and seems bad at spontaneous chitchat. I don't think that's sociopathy, maybe autism I guess.
Well maybe it is just as simple as that. Marine has also said that Ayame is very wary of people that she doesn't know well.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Ayame. But I had to agree with the original anon that I replied to that she doesn't collab well and her behaviour can sometimes come off negatively.

>>588058
>he doesn't like the cute girls competing genre
how weak

>>588418
I shall not let that happen

>>595988
Amazing screenshot, that face really does the job. That was the first tournament, right?

>>597616
Personally it makes me like her more. Seeing her do solo practice runs for games and watching how invested she gets into it is really endearing. It's true that she's pretty bad at socializing in collabs but so are Aqua and Pekora so it might just be autism. I think she just tries more than them due to being unaware of her own autism I guess. No one would notice if she just never collabed and stuck to solo or only stuff with people she's close to like Mio.

Will Ollie be dropped like Luna or will Matsuri actually appreciate what she has for once instead of going full obsessed retard again?

>>597959
>No one would notice if she just never collabed and stuck to solo or only stuff with people she's close to like Mio.
I agree. I only started to notice the odd behaviour when I tuned into some of her collabs. I mainly watch her solo content.

>>598050
She can't drop Ollie. Ollie won't let her. She would have to VERY cold hearted to make Ollie stop.

>>585018
Superchat is like 5% of their total revenue

>>588205
Botan is burned out on the game from her roommate, she would win any Apex vtuber tourney solo while masturbating but she just doesn't want to play it ever again

>>587319
Porka is cute though. Other two, not so much

>>599352
>she would win any Apex vtuber tourney solo while masturbating
Hot.

>>579332
This

>>583797
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who clearly cries herself to sleep

Oh shit, it's true

>>600537
Or maybe she's just sleep deprived?

>>579619
Guras sc numbers are phenomenal considering the fact she only streams 4 times on average every week

>>583797
How much of this is true? Also whats her alt twitter account?

>>585461
At some point you've got to take what you have, if anyone else manages to snatch Luna she's gonna regret it

>>585491
Guess when was the last time this pasta was updated

>>596719
Exactly, it's all the same shit, just a different skin on it.

>>600610
That's not the look of someone who's sleep deprived

Can't wait to see Sora with more viewers than her in tomorrow's Among Us collab

>>585888
>Lyger's still an asshole after all this time
And nobody is surprised

>>589294
Dude, you work for her, at least help her during live streams

>>585888
I have a feeling that he actually hates EOP but can't say it cause they're his main follower.

What's up with Luna? She has cancer or something like this?

>>597478
Clearly you haven't seen HoloFes if you still think that

>>601623
No. Wrist problems.

>>585888
Isn't this guy a cover employee? I can understand with fan translators that can't always be there and are doing this for passion, but this faggot is paid to translate yet he whines when people ask him to do his job.

>>589294
Fuck off Lyger your entitlement and harassment of live translators in her chat is the reason I stopped reading Matsuri's chat.

>>602275
He's not really an employee, Matsuri is paying him from her own pocket to do translations for her streams. He's let it get to his head and thinks it means he's above other fan translators.

>>602560
Then if things like >>602411 are true he's actively sabotaging Matsuri since in other holos words
>She's been promoting herself a lot on english sites like reddit

>>602560
Why is she doing this? I never heard of this guy and a watch tons of her clips

>>602783
>I never heard of this guy and a watch tons of her clips
That doesn't compute.

>>602783
Because he sat in her chat doing live translations for years and she'd acknowledge him from time to time and add his subs to her videos when Youtube still had viewer-submitted annotations. Now that he's a big shot he doesn't think he should be expected to live translate anymore and just sits on Twitter criticizing clip channels. It's the same shit that happened to the anime fansub community on /a/ all those years ago, they turned into critics and stopped doing the actual work.

>>602783
A year ago before hololive really blew up he was THE matsuri clipper newfag. He's a creepy stalker and a dick, but he was one of the first to really get clips of hololive rolling.

>>602871
He harasses the ones live translating until they stop translating on stream, effectively killing most of the English speaking audience for livestreams since he won't bother to translate while he spams kawaii

>>596719
>tfw I will never watch the hologirls dogfight in Warhawk
just FUCK modern vidya

>>602937
And remember who was there in the epicenter of that shitstorm?

>>596602
Ayame has legit crippling social anxiety, and its come up before a few times but she legitimately cannot muster the will to approach others for collabs, she has to be approached by someone else
no idea what it stems from though

>>603199
if someone told me lyger was herkz it would make too much sense, they're both annoying faggots.

>>600871
Shuba has already snatched luna's heart

>>603246
It probably stems from her health issues. She has really bad eyesight and IBS. Growing up with those conditions sounds like it'd naturally spawn social anxiety for anyone. Imagine being unable to participate in any sports and also unable to socialize outside of school because you never know when you'll have to shit your guts out. She probably had no real chance to make friends when she was young.

>>603124
That anon said that he watches a lot of Matsuri clip and don't know about Lyger though. Not the live translation shenanigans.

I don't know how it really went down though. I became a Matsurisu when her channel had become a barren wasteland compared to my previous regularly watched Holo. I assume he's pissed because a lot of live translation are mistranslation or just straight up bullshit.

>>603124
Isn't this worth to report it to Matsuri herself? I mean if someone that has mod powers is acting like this no wonder noone wants to stay there

>>593745
Yes, you could say it sits at the Apex of Matsuri's problems.

>>596602
>I believe she is possibly the most successful Holo that still works her pre-Hololive job (unless that has changed recently).
nah

Please bring back Ichigo from the dead Matsuri
Invite her to Apex again Rainbow 6 Seige fucking sucks ass

>>579332
>youtube Matsuri
>her roomate shows up on the 1st page
she's cute but she's falling into the same rut as Coco and just spamming 1 game over and over

>>589294
>>588050
meanwhile triangle has 3 people live translating for her both in the youtube/twitcast live chat and discord server.

>>579332
I hope you guys realize that that bigger the vtuber scene gets the less views smaller channels are going to get. Especially as the novelty of it as "the new thing" wears off. When there were only a couple options it was easy for everyone to get views, but as it grows and grows people are going to just gravitate toward the handful of really popular channels.

>>586310
She double-dips. She has the comedy factor with her gaming rage, but she also does the waifu pandering GFE shit. She rakes in cash from both pools of fans, while the others usually only draw in one part of the crowd.

What happened with luna. Is matsuri literally gay for hoshikawa or are we just talking about tee tee

>>582440
Why doesn't she play with Astel or get coaching from him? We know that he played off-camera with Towa and Ayame before.

>>616541
>What happened with luna.
She's still a good friend of Matsuri.

>Is matsuri literally gay for hoshikawa or are we just talking about tee tee
Hoshikawa is her oshi. Now imagine what would you feel if you could actually be close with your oshi. That's what Matsuri feels.

>>616810
What is an oshi. Anyway you're telling me they're fine and people are just making shit up in this thread?

>>616669
She's going to play in the CR cup with a pro player and nose. She will probably get proper coaching there.

>>603328
Ayame seems to appear a lot though in the Holo no gra and she's always a guest in the main channel for special streams. She's also participating in Bloom and is in 3 songs right? She does collabs though. Always with F A M S but she's always there when they want her. She seems quite active. Maybe we just need to be patient. She's getting more confident.

>>616885
>What is an oshi.
Are you at least aware of how idol culture is like? The simplest way to explain is that oshi is like your favourite among other idols, but it holds a deeper meaning to some since idol main purpose is making money by being an object of worship.

>Anyway you're telling me they're fine and people are just making shit up in this thread?
It's all just narrative from people that reads too much into it. Matsuri and Luna get along fine in their last collab.

>>589254
Is that true for just japan or the us too
You'd think they'd let her on the team just so they can win. Man I feel bad for her

>>616885

>>616885
>What is an oshi
go back or lurk more faggot

>>617175
>>618085
This isn't /jp/, not everybody cares to learn weebfaggotry terms like those. Deal with it.

>>618164
its part of /vt/ chanspeak by now, newfag chama

>>618164
>being a proud newfag
can you get even more retarded

>>579332
Matsuri has been reclining for over a year at this point. The only time she gets spikes in popularity are her little arcs with people like Hoshikawa or Luna. She has lots of subs because she has popular clips like FBK, but they will forever be btfo by superior gen 1 streamers like Haachama.

>>618164
>being this much of a newfag
how 4chan has fallen

>>605085
"Nah" to which part?

>>580238
Do you think they fucked/gonna fuck?

>>593920
Aqua said Ocarina of Time was older than her, which means she was born in 1999 at the earliest, she is 22 at most.

>>595988
https://streamable.com/a9ry2v
https://streamable.com/4wu80m
Step aside, fuccboi.

Matsuri is pretty good looking so what is her problem

>>617272
It's true to a degree in all female sports in most of the world. Ugly girls don't get sponsorships and don't get picked for training which can heavily impact who ends up making it "big". Though to a degree you can power through being blacklisted by the entire sports industry if you're just that good. At least for solo sports where you can register for meets and such as an individual, no one can stop you from joining events if you're good enough to qualify.

Not the same for esports or team sports where no one will let you on a team if you aren't some streamer's girlfriend or a marketable attractive thot. Even if you try to apply for the "big leagues" of male esports gamers are so socially awkward that you'll be rejected for your vagina hurting team cohesion.

>>589254
Shit, I get demoralized watching my own footage from last week, and I'm actually improving. Managing an esports team must be debilitating.

>>586310
She reads and replies to every single simp super chat.

>>629177
She didn't always look like that. She was a fatty when she went through school. Lot of self esteem issues and awkwardness is literally engraved into her.

>>586310
Rushia literally replies to every single fucking Sc, even if you donate the minimum

Shit's crazy.

>>629177
She looks average at most but that doesn't really have anything to do with her any of her problems. I love her Riamu cosplay though. She's exceptionally cute there.

>>585846
>she constantly ego searches

Why are women so obsessed with doing this? the dog has to stop doing it too, she usually replies with jokes to the hateful comments but eventually something will break her.

>>588058
see >>580099

>>629177
Toxicity and being trash at apex created a do not get near me aura.

Same deal with kiara, but kiara has moris friendship irl so they can pull through.

>>630168
Kiara is a walking nuclear head, just taking a glance at her activities pre-hololive...

>>602937
>>602957
>>602560
sad

>>588596
Didn't a close family member of hers die? That would definitely make you lose motivation for streaming and other things

>>630297
>pre-hololive
She didn't stop.

>>629876
>literally
die

>>617175
>Are you at least aware of how idol culture is like?
Imagine being proud of knowing about idol culture

>>579598
Ly*gger working overtive

>>584969
There are women on this planet that don't do anything and get millions of dollars per month just for inheriting dad's multi-hundred million dollar trust. At least titty streamers produce something

>>583585
meds

>>602783
L*ger is basically a stalker

>>630477
Yes, last October she took a month break because a family member died.

>>630542
Serious question, if being this new is something you value and take pride in, why are you even here? Would you not be happier on r*ddit?

>>585846
>her obsession over some people is literally at the point they treat her as their personal lolcow
What is this referring to?

>>637782
hoshikawa and haachama treat her like a lolcow

>>638052
How so? I'm aware of Hoshikawa talking about her somewhat unkindly, but I didn't know about Haachama.

>>634359
Serious question, why are you trying to make this board just /jp/ v2? We have for a fresh start and getting rid of all the cringe otaku terminology, and yet you weeb faggots insist on making this some sort of Engrish-speaking board that says "chuuba" with complete seriousness

>>634359
Serious question, why are you trying to make this board just /jp/ v2? We have a chance for a fresh start and getting rid of all the cringe otaku terminology, and yet you weeb faggots insist on making this some sort of Engrish-speaking board that says "chuuba" with complete seriousness

>>640631
>cringe
Big talk for someone on a Tibetan basket weaving forum for discussing how best to give money to (usually) women pretending to be anime girls

I feel bad EOPs know her just for being crazy and obsessed, she's really sweet and talented.

>>641309
Nobody in the Among Us collab with Sora believed that though

>>640631
>cringe otaku terminology
kill yourself newfag this website isn't for you

>festival tries to force the whole matsuri x luna thing
>luna just plays along with it because why not
>never truly blooms into anything
>luna instantly relates more to subaru after some collabs even mentions subaru on most zatsudans that she loves being with her.
>Luna even forces subaru to kiss her on an off-colab, actively seeks and likes any suba x luna art she finds on twitter/pixiv and shares it with subaru.

imagine being festival lmao

>>644992
well, she always has lyger if she REALLY has to, i guess. maybe not her first choice but you know what they say about beggars and choosers.

>>640631

while most of the stuff in this thread is exaggerated, the fact that Hoshikawa made out with Gundou after repeatedly turning down Matsuri does make me laugh

>>640631
Because this board is basically an offshoot of /jp/?

>>602275
Aside from the fact that he's not a cover employee, he gets payed to do full stream translations, not live translating, and his translated clips are just something he does because he wants to. When he's in chat and watching her streams he's off the clock, just relaxing like any viewer, so he has no obligation to translate. Lyger's obsessed and self-righteous but it feels like this board is more obsessed with him than he is with Matsuri - just fucking ignore him instead of getting upset over this inane shit.

>>640631
anime website, anime board
this IS /jp/ 2.0

>>623044
>superior gen 1 streamers like Haachama
Haachama leans on the crutch of being as bizarre as possible to attract or generate memes - it's not actual talent as a streamer, just a willingness to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Conversely, Matsuri is actually fantastic at the fundamentals of streaming - great timing, humor, conversation, etc - but doesn't lean into trends or topics that farm views.

just for the record I'm the guy who asked about oshi but I'm not the guy complaining about weeb terms or whatever. Anyway I hope all the rest stuff about matsuri being alone and forgotten isn't true. Makes me sad to read. Just want her to be happy

>>640631
Western whores will never be accepted. Otaku, Idolchads and Hololive run this board. And this website. Fuck off.

>>646733
>Just for the record
Thanks for clearing that up anon, wouldn’t want to think you were anon

>best dancer
>great singer
>lively personality
>great comedic timing
>loves being an idol but doesn't let it limit her
>looks out for and supports her lonelier kouhai
>adorable voice
>earnest and forthright
>caring and emotionally invested
>lolicon and pervert
>but actually just a hopeless romantic
How does one not love the Summer Color Festival? She's the closest I've ever seen to my ideal woman.

>>579598
>but idk i remember her being way more relevant months ago

Relevancy, where you can see it anyways (eop clips etc), comes in waves for everyone, typically for 1 or 2 jp holos at a time.

It's Haachama right now, previously Marine, before that Haachama, then Pekora, then Haachama again, then Miko, then Rushia, and so on.

Matsuri has hers veeeeery sparingly.

>>594716
She plays on console?

>>585456
There is base salary only before monetization not after.

>>581226
aquas not bad, but jp apex is wayyyy easier than na or eu lobbies, its not even comparable.
you get away with really bad plays even in diamond so often where you'd get punished immediately even in gold if you did those misplays in na or eu servers.

>>583797
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
Any videos of this? Sounds hilarious.

>>640631
Because a tuber is a potato or a similar plant. This is also why nijis are nijis instead of livers because thats the organ I’m destroying with alcoholism

>>579332
Isn't this basically Kiara?
>800k subs
>barely 2-3k in normal streams
>occassionally breach 10k on soecial days or while abusing a ship

>>600851
Anon-chamaa...

>>640631
Not even trying to be mean, but I'm just confused as to why you'd spend your time fighting and struggling to make this board into a non-otaku, non-idol-obsessed hugbox that is more aligned to normal Western sensibilities, when there is already a popular message board that shall not be named, which also has a sizeable Hololive fan community and is largely aligned to what you seem to want.

>>594923
Is this bait? It doesn't take a genius to see that someone like, say, Jin Teramachi - preachy as he may be sometimes - does a better job at translating than some random speedsubber.

>>600537

Can confirm, used to comfort female friends in highschool after break-ups and fights with their boyfriends/crush, I noticed you can tell if they cry themselves to sleep depending on the eyebag coloration

>Roommate coloration is not from sleep deprivation as expected

Dead giveaway, it´s confirmed then.

>>600610
Bags like that are a combo of lack of sleep and excessive crying

>>601041
Indeed.

>>585491
>He doesn't knows

>>588058
>Forgot he is browsing /vt/ of all boards.

>>582440
>Plays Apex
>Loses health
>Mental

How can festivalfags ever recover?

>>647723
We don't. We just continue living with it.

>>582440
>My Chuuba Oshi can´t be this mentally derranged!

Got the title right.

>>584969
You click your mouse 2 times for 4k. These girls work more in a single stream than your entire life. Fuck off and die

>>582440
Incoming "commit unlife"?...

>>647772
>Forgets these girls need Idol training to even have a shot at the auditions

Yeah, anon is a /biz/itor who has no idea what these girls need to do to even get on the basic level to compete.

>>646642
>t. Lyger

>>586334
Fewer men reproduced because men were dying all the time, whether in war, hunting or dangerous labor, while women were protected. The only elevated risk to women was childbirth, which means the man who impregnated her managed to reproduce.
If people were naturally okay with polygamy most developed societies wouldn't have outlawed it. It would be a recipe for gangs of disgruntled single males killing men and raping their women, like you see in lions. If people in developed nations weren't so softened, modern incels would be doing it too.

>>582440
Festival needs to calm the fuck down.

>>647817
>Lyger is reddit´s VTuber community "role model" regarding translations
>The mod team has NO IDEA what he could do to festival if he ever spergs out

This is not even autistic, how can they be this idiotic and blind???

Once the guy loses his cool, the shitstorm is gonna kill someone in the process.

>>628789
>niji beats holo
>niji beats niji
>niji > niji > holo
?

>>647600
>Jin Teramachi
The guy who thought that a native JP speaker didn't understand Japanese?

>>646770
(You) speak the truth

>>628238
Maybe Ina is more successful

>>647583
Don't get me wrong, I don't want a hugbox, and the issue isn't to do with Westernization. It'd just be a case of different group, same flaws, replacing the jargon like "oshi" or "yab" with "rabbit hole" or "bottom left". Essentially, I just want a place to discuss nerdy stuff without having to deal with actual nerds.

>>648435
The only reason that faggot gets to do all the stupid shit he does is because Matsuri has almost no english knowledge.