/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>58663706
>South America
poorfucks
>ARAB
anime is halal
>Africa
poorfucks

It doesn't surprise that most of the garbage threads came from /v/ crossboarders but I thought they would try to be a little less obvious about it.

>>58663776
Arabs love GOOD anime, not your shitty light novel adaptions with human centipede level of recycled plots and character

la cosa morada...
el poder mas de todos...

>/v/

>>58663706
all this can happen if Yagoo secures a few oil barons

>>58664223
I dont have 9 million to spare but give me a few years and this could be one of the best things I ever bought

>>58663706
South America will never happen, not because we don't love anime and Vtubers, but because our currency isn't worth shit to anyone who deals in dollars. Here's to put it in perspective:

> 1 real is worth 0.19 cents
> Brazilian minimum wage is half of US (1300 compared to 2600)
> 1 real is worth to us as much as 1 dollar is worth to an American
> import taxes are 80%, meaning something like an Iphone costs 2000 dollars instead of 1200
> only 5% of Brazil speaks English at a semi-fluent level
> 99% of Brazilian have never been and never will be outside the country

All this adds up to only the oil barons being able to afford merch or superchats. Meaning it isn't profitable to open a branch here.

>>58663706
you don't even need a separate EU branch, just mandate some of the EN members to stream during EU hours

>>58663706
> I mean South America fucking loves anime and is a lot bigger than ID.
Yeah but I don’t think the single or virgin male demographic is large enough to make it profitable

>>58663945
Is one piece good according to arabs?

>>58664391
Correct me if I am wrong but dont you have a lot of super rich people in SA? Like the gated community kinds of folks.

>>58663706
imagine how whore will be these latinas

>>58664739
Those people are very rarely anime watchers, let alone Vtuber consumers. At most they know Saint Seiya, Dragonball and a bit of Pokemon.

>>58663776
I saw a bit on Arabia and anime on Nhk world and it seems like animu's making some inroads there.
Genie holo when?

>>58663706
Be honest, if indogs can support a branch, why can't all of Latin America+Spain+Chicanos support one of their own?

>>58665175
>Indo
poor but near
>Latin America+Spain+Chicanos
poor and far

>>58663706
>holoSA
>imagine getting a mexican gremlin with a loli avatar doing a collab with gura while both scream "pendejo" at the top of their lungs
stop tempting me

>>58663706
>>58664938
Exactly, waifufags come to die over here, never think of making that branch. Forget about this place.

>>58665175
honestly, it's because the indonesian fanbase, for all its flaws, isn't as toxic as the hispanic or (heaven forbid) the chinese
in other words, the juice isn't worth the squeeze

>>58665597
ES would be the final yab, we ourselves have to stop anyone who tries to make it real.

>>58665597
I feel like they're as toxic as every other fanbase but at the same time they're also toxic to each other. They're so big and toxic that the toxicity kill itself. Just like how big animal didn't get cancer because the cancer get cancer

>>58665175
There's a reason why ID speaks mostly in english.
Indos can't really support their branch alone.
The potential ES branch would have language problem and would need someone to explode like Kobo to be sustainable.

>>58666013
ES will never exist, we will never let it happen.

>>58666205
Agree, but why are you replying to me?

>>58663776
>ARAB
>anime is halal
Do yourself a favor and google who currently owns SNK.

>>58663706
>>58663776
>arab
>black people
Japan not care about these.
>south america
Japan is aware of this because of Bleach, but right now they're doing thousand year blood war.

>>58664391
>>58664739
Mexico is poor but mexico's currency and overall income and education levels are now equal to the shittier parts of the USA, so in another 15 years they will be ahead of Canada.

>>58666278
Because I also agree, all hispanic chuubas tell the same story.

>>58665563
I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't like a Brazil branch, I'd love to not have to import merch, but it's just not likely to happen.

>>58663706
Cover has been dicking around like they're gonna do something with Korea since early 2020, and never have. Don't hold your breath. Other things are even more unlikely than KR.

>>58667181
hololive is good cuz isn't made at home, I would never support it.

>>58663706
It depends on how well IdolES does. Sure it's a small corp way beneath their sight, but if it turns out to be a reasonable enough success it might wake up other corps to the region's potential.
Still, I believe most of them would rather hire people who focus on English due to higher reach.

>>58663706
>Will we get EN4,
YAGOO confirmed in the investors Q&A that the delay in EN was due to them waiting for covid to be completely over and catch up on overdue 3D stuff for older gen. Saying he didn’t want to bring more disappointment and hardship to more members.
No that this is out of the way, new gens in EN will be much faster.

>>58663706
>SouthAmerica/Spanish1, EU1 and ARAB/Africa 1 in 2024, /v/?
RUMAO
SA can just watch NA talents they’re the same timezone. What you mean is probably Spanish language branch, but still no the market is too small for holo and already filled up by other small corpos.
YAGOO hates EU, never ever happening. Maybe you’ll get a British talent in EN5 in 2 years and you’ll deal with this.
Africa and Middle east could just watch EU IF WE HAD ONE. Too bad YAGOO hates EU.

holoKR isn’t too far-fetched. I could see a come back of Chinese language but 100% focused on Taiwan. (and even then very unlikely). But EU/SA/Africa lolno never ever.

From what I've seen in terms of superchatters for the EN girls, Mexico and a few other Central/South American currencies has a presence but ultimately the indies will fill that niche. Yagoo isn't going to set up concerts in Mexico City or Chile's most popular tourist spots despite both of those countries doing alright compared to everywhere else.

>>58663776
But halal means good by the laws of the Koran. What you mean is haram

>>58664739
We do, but most (if not all of them) are uber normalfags. Mention anything other than Dragon Ball, Pokemon, maybe some other Spanish dubbed anime that aired 20+ years ago, and they will have zero clue of what the fuck you're talking about. The few willing to throw their month's salary to an anime girl aren't enough to justify a whole new branch (without counting the ones who migrated to escape from South America.)

>>58666298
There is a difference between owning something and actually allowing inside the country. That's how Saudia Arabia works, the politics of it are complex.

>>58665597
>>58666013
ID fanbase are toxic but in moderation, and also generally way more united against outside threat AND more forgiving toward the talents. Literally zero cancellations rate for the girls so far, despite a lot of yabbing.
Kobo alone multiple times triggered BOTH hardcore Muslim and hardcore Christian only to get the squish. And of course, the fanbase is way more open and accepting about males.
Raw income is significantly lower, but fewer risk involved for both the company and the girls. Niji was retarded for missing this fact and abandoned an entire branch.

As a south american, I dont want a new branch. Many people here dont know what v-tubers are and if you have money to spend on this hobby, you already know english.
It would be nice to have someone like Hakka (but female), since Reimu is a rich bitch and rich bitches in latam pretend they are white americans.

>>58663706
EU would just be EN.
And yes, they should hire at least one or two for EN4.

>>58674881
This. Even Cover must know all about that.

>>58667181
you'd still have to import. EN goods are still shipped from Japan, sometimes doubling the cost

>>58663706
somehow i feel like holoSA would have really bad management

>>58678957
It would make EN's look good.

Just for the exposure I’d start a latin branch. The audience over there is insane and someone is going to do it and I want hololive to be the first instead of trying to catch on.

Money wise it might not be the best move but we got ID too and we can bring a lot more people into hololive with a Spanish speaking branch which means bigger numbers which means bigger sponsors. You get what I’m trying to say.

I genuinely do believe a Spanish speaking branch would be a good move

>>58663706
We need Europeans

>>58687468
Yeah, everything but LATAM.

>>58663706
Dev_IS GLOBAL

>>58687468
More?

>>58663706
Uruguay>Argentina>BR

Fuck every other south american country

URUGUAY IS THE BEST

>>58674043
Moona once got suspended because of butthurt Muslims.

Imagine HoloArab and one of the HoloEN girls says she supports Israel that would make what happened with HoloCH look like child's play

>>58664095
Honestly, /v/ has gone to shit so bad that /vt/ is old /v/ posting

This place has some semblance of moderation...

Fuck all spics

>>58663706
There is no money in South America, half of the countries are fucking dying by inflation right now.

>>58702355
lmao suspended what? never happened
i watch mooner since beginning, and youre talking out of your ass. kys

>>58664649
From the forum that I read when I was studying abroad they gave it 7

when will hololive get another brown girl? are they allergic to any skin tone darker than cream? sana's fanart was sexy and her design was memorable, just the model was horrid.

>>58664739
If you are rich in South America you know English. There is no need for an ES branch

>>58705694
There will never be a good reason for it.

>want to buy merch
>have to pay in dollars, so "effectively" 4 times the cost for us because:
>>58664391
>shipping costs are "relatively" high
>import tax makes you basically pay double the price if merch costs more than $50 (shipping costs are included towards the total)
Real live example: I will literally unironically have to pay ~$100 if I purchase 2-3 acrylic stands (depending on shipping costs).
Superchats would give almost nothing to talents, and we would be unable to support properly with merch. We would be unable to keep the branch alive.

>>58663706
EN4 yes, 1 will be EU (should get one anyway, to stream in between Kiara and Ina/Fauna), and 1 might also speak spanish. That's the best you're going to get

>>58663706
even in death, Hololive is charging me for shipping, what in the god damn.

>there will never be a south american holobranch
>there will never be playful banter between the peruvian, brazilian, chilean, argentinian and mexican chuubas
>ywn get to see them play on a minecraft tournament and losing cause they're too busy fighting each other to win
>ywn get to see them become the most coordinated and synchronized group in history the moment an amerishart or kiara starts talking shit
It's not fair.

>>58710294
I'm one of the few that can afford to buy shit around but I don't even support EN, I do my best with JP and that won't change.

>>58671054
isn't that the gorilla who got shot?

>>58663706
This is just my vague impression but while South America is extremely passionate about shonen stuff, they seem to care much less about more weeby stuff compared to rest of the world.
I doubt they'll be into Vtuber even if we invest there.

>>58663776
>poorfucks
how come holoID exists?

>>58663706
Feels good to be an Indonesian whenever I see threads like this. I would never have thought that my country that 20 years ago was on its way to total chaos and destruction is now becoming an envy of the global weebs.

Back then the world only watched as Indonesia burned, and now Indonesia is watching the world burning while the very same people who used to think that Indonesia was hopeless are now competing to do business here or using Indonesia as a benchmark.

>>58664391
Indonesia worked tho

>>58712394
cheers my man, holoID keeps on winning

>>58663776
I think you mean haram

>>58663706
>Will we get <actual overseas diversification from hololive>
No, the EN branch only gets more and more focused on the US west coast over time and they're never going to look at anywhere else. For most of the world you're better off trying your luck with ID members with a really bad sleep schedule.

>>58712473
everything is checked except Indonesia has a direct market/shop they can buy off, no?
that's alone is a big advantage compared to EU or SA and make it easier to support your oshis

>>58663706
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>58717193
OP is asking if Cover will become aware that parts of the world outside of Japan, Indonesia, and California exist
The answer is no

>>58702199
You're literally South American Luxemburg, shut the fuck up

>>58712394
Delusional. The only reaaon you have holo chuubas is because japan is used to opening branches there to rape you with low wages(since they hate china more and vice versa). No one is envious of you, well, maybe some SEA are.

>>58717472
holy copium
irrelevant third worlder seething lmao

>>58664223
>YAGOO signs Messi for HoloSA & Ronaldo for HoloME

>>58709019
Holo poached a spic chuuba that lives in Japan and graduated recently.
Her graduation went viral and she had few interactions with EN members in the past.
Spic chuuba is a KFP.

>>58709019
If they debuted one singular new euro member in EN now, they'd be dead on arrival. HoloEN have spent years determinedly killing off their euro viewer base and people aren't going to come back for one person unless they're spectacularly talented

>>58679527
>someone is going to do it and I want hololive to be the first
Too late, idol has already finished auditioning for an ES branch recently

>>58719580
This. They still have Kiara, but the company really doesn't seem to want EU viewers. They doubled down on this by doing Advent's debuts at 5am and it's unlikely they'd pull a 180 now

>>58664391
you niggers already pay with ars, what would be different?
the only reason a regional branch is ever considered at all, is for containment purposes.
Also
>>58707915
again, you already don't buy merch cause you are a bunch of poor faggots
>>58713428
cope
Leave the psyops to the CIA, latinxs. they can do a better job protecting your "market share" by just labeling vtubing as communism lol

>>58712394
The only reason ID exists is because of how cheap it is. You're like the bargain bin region of vtubing.

>>58718450
You realize that Indonesia is literally a third-world country, right?

>>58663706
some mexishit was saying many of you are homoenabler. so its better to not create holo es. itll be quickly homo es

>>58664437
>mandate some of the EN members to stream
LEMAO

>>58719580
>>58720344
This. Cover hates Europe. If they for whatever reason decide to go for the EU market now it'll be all or nothing. Either they have to go for a full gen to create some momentum, or whoever debuts alone will be isolated, relegated to being a Kiara cocksleeve and doomed to failure. Cover might attempt this in like 2 years, but by then it'll be beyond too late.

>>58717472
>>58720373
NTA but Indonesia is the world's 4th largest country by population and has a lot of weebs. You don't need your viewers to be rich when there's enough of them.

>>58663706
Another SEA branch feels far more likely

>>58720612
ID CCV is extremely low though.

>>58672955
They recently had a fuckhuge Street fighter tournament that paid out ridiculous sums. They don't give a fuck about anime boobies.

>>58720698
That's blood money

>>58720612
Europe is a huge market for English media that DOES spend vast amounts of money on weeb shit, and Cover actively avoids letting them watch things or spend money

>>58720556
>>58721036
cope
the only relevant country in Europe is France and the majority of weebs there doesn't even give a damn about vtubing

>>58720373
yea but we're the one with holo branch, while you cry yourself to sleep everynight wondering why indonesia is "so lucky, and dont deserve to be this big in vtuber scene" lmfao

All you're getting is more people overlapping their streams during PDT prime time

>>58722315
Europe already spends more on hololive than Indonesia while the only content they’re getting is maybe half of Kiara’s schedule, financial viability was obviously never the reason they’re like this

>>58663706
There is not a single South American chuuba that isn't a huge drama/yab magnet. You fags don't know what you're asking for bringing that shit into Hololive.

>>58663706
Cover will never hire people from the european timezones for any branch because european timezones don't align with NA or JP work hours. It has nothing to do with purchasing power or perceived market size, Indonesia is inferior to Europe in both respects but it has its own national Hololive branch regardless.
>but Kiara
Lived in Japan, she was never meant to stream from Austria.

>>58723774
They overlap with JP work hours as much as NA does (half of the day) and Cover doesn’t have any NA staff either.

>>58720357
What the fuck are you talking about, schizo? Are you mentally well?

>>58723774
also EU are not slave workers, they have unions and work contracts are always in favor of labor side.

>>58720612
>big population
>but they are all poor
Pointless, this is precisely why Niji India failed so hard.

I wanted to see HoloRU because of that girl Moona collabed with and also the sheer amount of russkies in SSRB chat, but I guess that would be bad timing now.

>>58723601
>source: in my dream

>>58723601
>he doesn't know Holo report

>>58730203
Donations are public anon. There's also multiple pieces of limited merch from months ago that are still available unsold on the ID-exclusive store because nobody there buys it.

>>58730240
Their financial report doesn't separate Indonesia from the rest of the world. It's also honestly useless for inferring where revenue came from because a huge amount of overseas sales will be misreported as Japanese sales due to people using proxies because they still don't ship basically anywhere except Japan and the US.

Indonesians aren't really familiar with the whole 'oshi' concept. For them, VTubers are like regular streamers but anime. Things get weird when someone with money dives into the 'gachi zone', The fanbase or even the talent itself starts roasting or shamebashing them. So, it's safer to stick to supporting JP or EN to avoid getting roasted or shamebashed by our own oshi or fanbase.

>>58710294
>playful banter between the peruvian, brazilian, chilean, argentinian and mexican chuubas
>playful

>>58723757
Must been the only real SA here. Anon know what he is talking about

>>58732175
oshi just means a fan.

I will saviour fag like no one else if they make a 3rd world latina branch. Bonus points if they're brown with dark nipples.

All of you faggots going "uuh its not profitable" this and that and yet Yagoo continues to support people with less made up numbers (anya), the males and even is willing to re-negotiate Vsingers.
Its not about the money, its about what he finds funny and quirky, he just has to go "tanoshii".
So show him a few jajaja videos and you will get a hispanic gen instantly.
Here, its easy
>HOLO3rd (World)
>Argie haughy chuuba that gets corrected every single time. Screams like a banshee and will ban people over football streams
>Peruvian Chocolate chuuba, lots of cooking streams where she will cut your balls if you mention any other type of cuisine
>Mexican chuuba that tries really hard to be cool but its a dork. Shortstack and really into telenovelas
>Chilean Chuuba that is a know-it all and constantly butts head with the Argie. both of them are the designated yuribaiters
>They constantly fight, they watch football together and get drunk
>somehow the strongest Unit in tournaments because the only thing they hate more than their neighbours is gringos. Also gay angry sex

I expect my money on the mail tomorrow, mail it to Anon. E. Mouse

>>58736259
>and yet Yagoo continues to support people with less made up numbers (anya)
Of course he would support her, all JPs get priority treatment.

>>58736259
Take a black chubba from the islands and make her the Irys of the branch in that she's isolated from the others not the singing part

>>58736448
>cuban chuuba

You will get Hololive PH and enjoy the downfall of Hololive

>>58736259
Kino.
The argie number 1 chat rule: Soccer = Ban.

>>58663706
south america loves DBZ, not CGDCT

>>58663706
Still no Holo TR :(

>>58741758
Would a Holostars ES chuuba work if it had toriyama as an art papa?

>>58736259
Yagoo said in late 2021 that Europe was an interesting market they'd like to grow in, but since then EN has moved all of its events and announcements to times euros can't watch and hired a bunch more NA members who all overlap each other
There is no reasoning with Cover, they are pants on head retarded in every respect except talent scouting

>>58732732
It has to be playful while the streams are going. Unless you think them calling each other faggots and similar will go over well on youtube.

>>58735615
.....no?

>>58728704
That's why I added "and has a lot of weebs", that's the difference between ID and IN.