/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>59236397
Hololive EN and Stars EN still on colllab ban after the 2 Homos leaving DRAMA.

Why you think Ame, Mori and Kroni stop the collabs. JUST WAIT the collab be remove and see Shiori joining the other 3 and become part of 4th Horsewoman of Dickalypse

Did you learn anything from the ordeal?

okay, what happened in nijisanji today to warrant a bunch of low effort Shiori threads out of nowhere

>>59236574
>2 more weeks trust me bro

>>59236574
mindbroken
genuinely

>>59236397
Now hopefully you'll hang yourself on it

>>59236698
>this is your braincell on /pol/

>>59237089
>"p-p-p-p--pol"
Nice one. But seriously

>>59236615
If they were smart they would listen to their oshi and educate themselves. But if they did that then they would be smart people which they are not

You think you are safe? Lmao

>>59237089
What the fuck are you talking about, schizo?

>>59237441
>zero self-awareness: the post

>>59236397
You can try all you want, but outside of thread shitters and catalog niggers, no one will ever be mad at a onigiri collab. Girl’s fucking harmless.

>>59237323
Well I would, but it turns out she's not my friend, so I don't have to improve myself for her.

>>59237521
whatever you say, buddy

>>59236397
Turns out her "collab choices" are no collabs.

>>59236397
Yeah, you're right. Instead you should've been paying attention to she's acting as a gateway for gender ideology to take root by having been caught running a pronoun script and saying it's nice to have pronoun options.

>>59237432
the funniest ones were the ones convinced Kronii is some huge turbodyke

>>59238291
Turns out being Canadian was the nail in the coffin

>>59236574
>>59236397

The girls saw Kronii's disastrous numbers (especially in merch) and did a 180 degree turnaround
Im sure that at any moment they will homollaborate again, after all, women are self-destructive

>>59238775
the voices in your head told you this?

>>59236574
>Why you think Ame, Mori and Kroni stop the collabs
Because the two that were interested in it left

>>59236574
>t.

>>59237521
>>59237089
Shiggers are still fucking around?
You will never be cool. Your oshi can be mindbroken.

>>59237089
My clownwife doesn't deserve to be even mentioned in a thread like this, leave her alone.

>>59238275
QRD on the pronoun script?

>>59240768
not much to give a qrd on
https://pronouns.alejo.io/faq

>>59238775
Yes the merch numbers that totally weren't made up for shitposting purchases, very good observation there, faggot.

>>59236574
Kroni would stop. Not because she no longer want males, but because the two she's interested in fucked off.
Even if she took it well, that's going to prick something fierce.

>>59236698
>what happened in nijisanji today
Protip: It was never the nijifags. It's numberfags wanting their hourly dose of cockfight. So of course they went with Holo vs Holo.

>>59242144
you just replied to one of them

>>59242144
makes sense...otherwise the Catalog would be swarmed with niji threads.

>>59236574
I doubt management has implemented a HoloPro collab ban though maybe they discouraged them while Hololive was shilling the swimsuit concerts and merch. Cover might go back to promoting them in a month or two. Yagoo will never abandon Holostars but they did spend a huge amount of money promoting Splash Party.

>>59236574
HOLY ESL, BATMAN!

>>59241929
Fuck, just when I started liking her too...

This thread was made by a novelite btw

>respect my collab choices
>follows dudes on twitter
>Dimitri Jap who is obviously /here/ tells her to go the GFE route because 4chan is freaking out
>She does so the very next stream
>Turns out GFE and talking about inane shit for hours actually makes a lot of money

Thanks Mr. Jap

Its pretty funny how badly 4 words can mindbreak some people

>>59238291
Regular dyke (or straight by her own schizo delusions) with gf now in canada is more than enough. She would be insufferable if fully abusive.

>>59246019
4channel respecting what women want, name a bigger lie

>>59246019
4 words she didn't even say, much like the Taiwan saga.

>>59245772
Kill novelites chainsaw novelites stomach throw novelites in a ravine curbstomp novelites hit novelites with an acid-filled watergun tape novelites to an airliner piss-enema novelites until it comes out of their mouth and choke freeze and then thaw novelites feed novelites to jaguars place novelites in a comically large book and close it sell novelites to china draw and quarter novelites with one thousand drones lock novelites in a secret unaccesable floor of a skyscraper for 25 years transport novelites between wallmarts depressurize novelites put novelites inside CERN open a portal in novelites fertalize the rainforrest with novelites ...

You know what I find funny?

Shiori said it at the dying end of the debut and nobody gave a fuck. I don't even give a shit about that Nerissa collab. This board is just dying for some epic yab.

>>59242029
I don't want to encourage the fags your arguing against but this is cope.
Merch numbers used to be more readily available until some leddit faggot containment breaker let it slip that nip internet storefront infrastructure is based off windows 98 and is filled with holes so Cover put a stop to those leaks. Kronii's was bafflingly low that time.
If anything it explains her about face and turn to coombaition. Also a baffling occurance.

>>59242144
>nijisanji so pathetic numberfags cant even use them
lol

>>59246713
Dont threaten us with a good time Shiori

>>59236397
Why do Novelites insist on spamming threads in the catalog that never go anywhere?

>>59247275
>Shiori said it at the dying end of the debut and nobody gave a fuck.
What board were you posting on? Go back there.

>>59249910
Here's a tip:
It's not the Novelites, we don't care what catalog niggers think, they're all poorfags who don't even watch streams.

>>59238275
There is only one gender, the HUMAN gender :}

>>59238291
They told me Kronii never homo collabed even before Hololive, how they fucked me up, I bet everything on Kronii.

>>59249910
So novelites make all threads on /vt/?

>>59241929
If this doesn't put you off then you are already compromised.

>>59238775
>180 degree turnaround
Yuor just walking in the same direction again retrad

>>59250387
Do away with gender then. It's just a tool for obnoxious tumblrites to wank over. There are two biological sexes and some anomolies that we call intersex that do not break this rule any more than a three legged deer breaks the rule that deers have four legs.
Next time you see a pronoun wanker tell them to wank themselves somewhere else.

>>59242144
Why would numberfags care about shiori? The overlap between novelites and # is two separate circles
We're also busy moomin until bae gets shit numbers and grabs # dwindling attention spam

>>59250815
>Do away with gender then
funnily enough, a lot of progressives see this as the end goal and ideal to strive for.

>>59250415
Trust the catalog anon
do not watch streams
only the catalog knows best

>>59251059
Why do they keep creating MORE genders then?

>>59251059
Well then tell them to shut up about pronouns and other super special gender identity labels. Also tell them that Capitalism is based.

>>59251202
well, political groups don't tend to be monolithic.
>>59251246
I'll bring it up at the next space communism meet-up.

>>59250424
>>59250314
don't waste your time responding to what is either a massive newfag(and probably retarded) who still hasn't grasped the concept of falseflaggers, OR, more likely, a falseflagger itself hiding under 5-6 layers of schizo

>>59251298
Well then what are you?

>>59241929
I want to like her since I like her stories and her sense of humor but man this shit is kinda offputting. So long as it doesn't leak into her content too much I think I can still tune into her occasionally.

>>59251361
Leftist libertarian is probably close enough. I think Bookchin Municipalism is pretty based and could be implemented in many modern countries with some confederalist allowances. Also generally on the transhumanist side of the spectrum.

>>59241929
She's using it to filter out alphabet people's shitty opinions, y-yeah, that's it...

>>59251743
Explain to me what the pet political philosophy is and what the transhumanist spectrum is. I'm just a respecter of voluntary exchange of goods and services and private property like I'd reckon most people are naturally inclined to be. I also don't mind healthy GNC, but destructive medicalised GNC, if that's the transhumanism your referring to then it's considerably wanky.

>>59251059
let's get it straight, the idea isn't to get rid of "gender" vis-a-vis gender theory, but to get rid of biological sex, since sexual dimorphism (and, going further, sexual impulses) are impediments to liberation. "gender" as a description of existing phenomenon would cease to be relevant. you presumably understand this as a transhumanist

>>59252534
Sounds tryhard. Also what about faggots, they look gay and cringe.

>>59252534
Oh no. We should be getting rid of gender theory which is based on shaky/mentally ill contemporary thinking originating from a pedo in the 50s and keep the much more solid sexual dimorphism that has seen us through hundreds of thousands of years of evolution as a species. That's what I think.

>>59253090
good news, anyone who isn't a retard hates gender theory and the coked out biomoron who invented it, it just happens to be an incredibly useful lever against existing power structures that have been torturing humanity for thousands of years. if the transhumanists have their way, gender theory will just be a footnote in the big book of human retardation
>>59253074
there will be no faggots when no one is having sex anymore

why the fuck are there trannies in my shiori~n thread?

Great another shit thread turning into /pol/, jannies please do your job

>>59253232
as above, so below

>>59253194
Explain what your view of transhumanism is then.

>>59249961
Outside of this place? yes.

>>59252377
The QRD on municipalism is that reducing political representation causes political apathy, allowing the ruling class to do whatever the fuck they want as long as the populace's basic needs are fulfilled, resulting in massive economic, human, and ecological losses due to excessive lobbyism, corruption and bureaucracy. The response is to increase representation by moving the locus of political power down to the municipal power and putting executive power closer to the voters. Other approaches tend to concentrate wealth and political power in political-corporate interests in modern society, with the outcomes we see. I think private property is pretty based, but "corporate persons" are a corruption of the concept and the idea of private property does not scale smoothly to large scales, leading to the need for things like antitrusts and anti-monopoly measures when the profit of a corporation threatens the well-being of the population. These powers should be in the hands of the population ideally.
I honestly don't give much of a shit about all the gender crap one way or another. I think adults in possession of their abilities can do whatever they want to their body and minors shouldn't get anything cut off. I'm pretty sure that whole side of the culture war is just a smokescreen for shit that matters like the military-industrial complex, bank bailouts, the credit crisis etc.
>>59252534
That's pretty retarded anon. Never said anything about sex. Gender is increasingly obsolete as we approach post-scarcity, but sex isn't bad.
>>59253267
Baka, the thread was shit starting from the OP.

>>59245772
no it was a novelight

>>59253302
a progressive transhumanist would seek to eliminate biological impositions like hunger, thirst, addiction, sexual desire, etc, since these strongly influence behavior to the point of enslavement
>>59253462
"transhumanisn" isn't about just slapping on robotic body parts or modifying your DNA, it is literally about leaving humanity behind. being addicted to human things is not your fault, the vast majority of people aren't even aware of it despite complaining constantly about how terrible their lives are because they can't sate those biodrives

>>59236574

>>59250794
dumb burd

>>59253273
explain thine meaning

>>59241929
Why do people act surprised. She's tumblr incarnate. Why do you think she likes fanfics so much? If you saw her one nanosecond before she joined hololive you would had laughed at her.

>>59236574
>anyday now
>any fucking day they'll do a collab with males again
Give it up toots. They won't do them again. It failed.

>>59253657
That's a very militant form of transhumanism, my approach is more moderate. If you want to upload your brain into a crab-shaped digital ghost, that's cool. If you want to be a vanilla straight-edge fleshbag, that's fine too. Right to self-determination takes precedence to other more metasocietal aspirations.

>>59253462

>That's pretty retarded anon. Never said anything about sex. Gender is increasingly obsolete as we approach post-scarcity, but sex isn't bad.
I think that uh, youre an optimistic retard

>>59253966
Care to elaborate? Lets get some good discussion out of this shitty catalogbait thread.

>>59253935
it's really hard to call it "self determination" when from birth you are pumped full of addictive drugs by your own brain enforcing patterned behavior on you. obviously people must make their own choices, I think it's also important to recognize how difficult that actually is and the extent to which consent is manufactured even at the biological level. almost every industry exists to exploit the desires of these biodrives

>>59253462
I'm really a big fan of political apathy these days. I think we do more harm to ourselves by wrestling for the reigns of power than almost any dictator could.
I like the idea of ceding power closer to the voter, but the "voter" is ultimately the problem. The problem is the imposition of the will of the majority onto the minority. That is what voting is. That is what politics is.
The further away from that you can get as an average citizen the better for you.
Corporatism and beurocracy come from a marriage between state and market that leads to monopolies forming more than anything else. Sure there might be some natural monopolies that occur, but I'd take those over state sponsored monopolies if that is that choice.
When it comes down to it I see the free market as a manifestation of power being in the hands of the people. Not variations on localised or globalised political structures.

>>59253863
Hatefuck her brainworms out before they can reach you
>hatefuck
hatefuck
>hatefuck

>>59254134
That is an interesting view, and I can see the value in it anon. It's true that those biodrives are part of what make us, but I wonder, if you removed all of them, what will be left? I feel like quite a few of those would be inherent to any sentient being.
>>59254168
>The problem is the imposition of the will of the majority onto the minority. That is what voting is.
I actually agree with this, and that is something municipalism attempts to address by letting people vote for their municipality, instead of the entire federation.
The only ways to cede even more power to the voter, to me, are forms of anarchy, which either: will lead to unacceptable losses in productivity if adhered to rigorously, or will lead to the rise of informal power structures that will centralize political power anyway, except with less oversight and representation.
The ideal of the free market has a similar issue; yes, if it could be adhered to morally and perfectly it would be a useful guideline, but in practice, it is far more effective to use one's growing economical power to twist the free market in your favor. In a stateless society, a corporation will create a state to improve its status. This is essentially what occurred in many "banana republics" in the 20th century. The power ends up moving from the hands of the people to those power structures.

>>59254037
i just do not believe us reaching post scarcity until the end of this century, or after it.
Also it will necessitate cata-fucking-clysmic social restructuring.
And i believe, eh, let's say personnel cuts

>/pol/tards discussing politics on /vt/
This entire board is becoming infested with brainrot and shitflingers from other boards. We need unique IDs

>>59253863
I'm not surprised, it's honestly expected from a woman like her, just disappointing to see.

>>59254769
I agree that it's hard to imagine life without them, in the same way that it's hard to imagine what a new color
might look like, or a sound you've never heard. The ultimate ideal here is that we should be able to pick and choose the drives we value, rather than have them imposed simply by circumstance

>>59254978
seethe bitchnigga, most boards dont have flags, ids or shit

>>59254851
I didn't give a timeline, end of the century doesn't seem possible. With some key technological breakthroughs in power production and manufacturing, and some political hangups being smoothed over, maybe in 200-250 years at best? All that time would be also needed to help introduce said social restructuring more progressively, as well.
>>59254978
You want to entertain the drivel of the schizos instead?

>>59255183
That would be an interesting experiment... I can imagine a spooky sci-fi short story where uploaded human turns each switch off, doesn't feel the need to switch it back on, and moves on to the next, until there is nothing left. That's as close as a human could get to Buddhist nirvana, in some ways.

>>59255587
that is certainly an interesting way of looking at it. I've appreciated this conversation anon. now time for me to eat this tasty meal I've cooked

>>59236574
You don't even watch streams roleplayerchama, the guys still in tempus don't want to touch female collabs with a 10-foot pole, they know their audience.

>>59236615
no

>>59245677
anon we've been warning since day 1, she never became famous in the last 5 years because she doesn't want to move past her tumblr days like kiara did

>>59251059
Not a radfem but I orbit in a lot of their circles because they're some of the only chuuba-tweeters that aren't extremely obnoxious. Lots of progressive feminists are just "transphobic" in the sense that they think trannies existing reinforces gender stereotypes by implying that liking "feminine things" and long hair and barbies or whatever makes you female/vice versa. Progressive groups aren't monolithic - the ones posting about respecting pronouns aren't the same people that're pro abolishing gender.

>>59236574
Please shiori, own the incels just this one time.

>>59266867
Two weeks

>>59255214
nigga what the fuck you expected me to think after you initially phrased it like it was a soon two more weeks thing

hmm

>>59266629
>uses twitter
>they aren't obnoxious
glass houses

>>59267321
On sight

>>59261410
if you want to be fair to be her then she's moving past it right now. she has always knew about the idol culture and the enigma surrounding it and vtuber, so applying for hololive was already a step forward. she talked about it too, saying it took a long time to finally send the application

>>59269824
pic unrelated, didn't mean to attach it