/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Japanese is a debuff language

Tell them it's awful over here. Nothing worth in Holo EN besides Fuwamoco and Gura

>>59452799
>eops learning japanese for hololive
roru. rumao even

>>59453059
>roru. rumao iben
hzhi

>>59452799
It's just for fun, kinmoza had a similar "english lesson" book.

>>59452799
First we learned their language, now they're learning ours. Seems only fair. I bet people who started learning English all the way back when Myth debuted have improved a lot by this point.

>>59452799
lmao

they would learn better English from the StarsEN boys

>>59452799
I notice a lot of Japanese people in my EN oshi chat room

>>59453423
I was able to read all of this except 1 kanji, holy shit reps are real

>>59452799
Japs are too lazy to learn English. Also they don't have anime like we do to learn their language faster.

Japs are literally forced to learn English in grade school yet as soon as they get out all they can do is meme or act cute/retarded with the language

lmao

>>59452799
If we can never be Japanese, they can never be English.

>>59452799
good.

>>59452799
>Jap>English book
>but no English>Jap book
seems like the target audience for one is much bigger than the other

>>59454100
It was the 喋, right?

>>59455402
yeah how did you know

>>59452799
where download please sir?

>>59452799
better than nothing kek, even chinks are better at english.

>>59455422
Because that kanji is not exactly common despite not being rare either. More often than not 喋る is written in hiragana. You should know it since it’s fairly used in literature but it’s still a not so common kanji in daily life.

>>59452799
Why? Are they interested in whoretubers and male cocksleeves?

>>59452967
>and gura
why? they'll never see here except once in a blue moon when she goes to japan. At least FWMC actually wants to stream with the JP members

>>59455728
ah okay, I've only read some manga so far and some video game text and I haven't seen it

>>59452967
>>59455833
you will never be Japanese

>>59452799
Would it be feasible if /vt/ released an English learning book instead?

>>59452799
I learned Japanese for Salome, they're just like me, fr fr.

>>59454495
Just like Americans with Spanish

>>59452799
Too late OP, They already /here/ since 2021
https://eigo-net-slang-jiten.blogspot.com/2021/04/hololive.html?m=1

>>59452799
i want to creampie namori's hag pussy

>>59452799
learning english is a good thing if they ever want to leave their country

>>59465844
ToT

>>59465844
i remember when the person who ran that site was in /hlgg/ asking what certain terms meant and then immediately updated the site when they were told

>>59452799
>Recommended by Miko
It's surely very effective.

if you really want to learn English from them, just watch their streams lol

>>59455833
Why are you so mad that people like Gura? Who cares?

>>59454741
>English is the easiest language in the world
lol. lmao even
t. EOP

>>59455728
Thats しゃべる which means basically to talk right? I hear the JPs use it in stream all the time, but if you could tell me what the difference between that and using 言う or 話すis that would help me a lot. Thank you :)

I hate HoloEN it's so unreal

If you don't already know English are you even human?

>>59452799
Where is the Tempus version?

>>59452799
That "even Miko can understand it!" book sleeve is pretty funny.

>>59452799
Anecdata, but I've seen at least 2 Japanese people I follow on Twitter learn English because of Holo EN
One of them used to be a Sanbakafag but started watching HoloEN and is now a Kaela fan (I don't know the fanbase name)
https://twitter.com/mitsumine323
Then another one who didn't like vtubers at first and even unfollowed me for being a vtuberfag, now studies English and watches Niji EN for some reason

ENGLISH A SHIT. I REPEAT, ENGLISH A SHIT.

>>59485440
>didn't like vtubers
>watches Niji EN
Checks out.

>>59478877
言う is simply to say aloud. Not a conversation or reply expected.
話す is to talk. Having a conversation, even if the other part is not actively replying. Having a set of topics to discuss about.
喋る(しゃべる) is to chat (verbal). Having a conversation but more relaxed, without a particular theme.

Sometimes I see the shit Japan puts out and I'm like damn that's kinda cringe but also I want my country to be cringe too
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-02-08/2nd-lucky-star-study-book-teaches-organic-chemistry

>>59477683
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

Why do japs suck so badly at English pronunciation?
I mean, I'm also an ESL, and my native language has different letter pronunciation rules compared to English, but when I speak English I try to pronounce words as intended in English language, not try to apply my native language pronunciation rules.
Whereas so many japs go "Ai lavu hamubargeru and hotodogu!" and praise each other for perfect English. Can't they hear the stark difference between proper English pronunciation and whatever they are pronouncing? Is the oral posture for Japanese language so different that it becomes too hard to break these habits when it comes to learning other languages?

>>59485922
fucking moon runes god damn

Japs are better than burgers
>willing to watch EN
>willing to learn the language just to watch EN

>>59487552
>Can't they hear the stark difference between proper English pronunciation and whatever they are pronouncing?
They really can't.They are extremely isolated from actual English in their daily lives and get almost no practice exposure speaking it with native speakers. To become fluent in another language you either need to be exposed to it everyday or make a great personal effort to practice it on a daily basis and for them they're already worked to the bone in their daily lives so they have neither the incentive or the time to spend learning English

>>59485881
Top kek

>>59487552
Their phonetic system is too different from the english one.
Japanese is fully structured around moras (like syllables) where the first sound is a consonant and the second one a vowel. With a few exceptions.
Also, they have JUST five vowels (written and spoken) where english has a LOT of spoken vowel variations depending the surrounding consonants.
Car /kɑː(r)/
Cat /kæt/
Caw /kɔː/
They are wired that way and there's no easy way around.
If you try to say "I AM", that AM has to be converted to A-Mu with a soft u. It's always consonant+vowel, not the other way around.

>>59488003
>They really can't.They are extremely isolated from actual English in their daily lives and get almost no practice exposure speaking it with native speakers.
The only time I heard someone speaking English was some Peruvian or Arab idk in front of me and my brother who lived with his chink wife in Hong Kong back then. And even I have better pronunciation than some JP chuubas who have constant exposure to EN chuubas. Just learn alphabet, basic rules and start watching English/American movies with subs, don't know the word? Google it.
I started learning English by watching videos of Reckful and Soda on YouTube. Although I knew basic rules because of School and College.

>>59487755
>say/talk/tell
As an ESL I have to tell you English is not any better.

>>59488801
>As an ESL
>giving advice on English
Truly the state of /vt/, living in mudhuts and pagpag diving!

>>59452799
>not the other way around
i would legit buy a japanese version of this with korone and whoever else

>>59489158
Well it's not for you

>>59452799
USA
USA
USA

>>59454100
What reps routine did you follow? Was it a guide found somewhere here?
How long?

>>59452799
日本人だけどこれはbased

>>59452799
in a different world we could have had this collab

>>59453423
It's satisfying seeing nipanons feel what it's like to be treated as just an overseas novelty to a chuuba. I don't want to be kaigainiki I want to be a viewer, hope all the JP EN fans feel this suffering.

>>59491914
I actually thought that Claire-sensei vtuber was related to her
Also it's probably been 4 years already but I'm still wondering how Veibae (pre-Vshojo) became popular among Japanese viewers

>>59492124
ah...
the whore of babylon (forma originál)

>>59492033
Based.

>>59492124
Probably the good ol classic
>whore: :(
>whore from a different culture and a language you don't speak so you can pretend they are actually secretly purer: :)

>>59452799
It's not 2020 anymore, japs stopped caring about EN long time ago

>>59493204
Baunigs tell a different story

>>59452799
worth it for fwmc alone

>>59467712
is good even if they dont, it is a good way to deindoctrinate themselves from hollywood bullshit, they still live at the 80s.

>>59493102
>whore from a different culture and a language you don't speak so you can pretend they are actually secretly purer: :)
no...