/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5949993
Nope, unless pressured

>>5949993
Why not try to build up a loyal core fanbase instead? Her views and sub don't seem right at all, and it's because she hasn't fostered a close knit relationship with her fanbase yet. Kiara and Mori have loyal fans and they get PAID a lot for that. Gura has a lot of subs but no one's really loyal to her, she has no paypigs compared to even her genmates. And she can never break Coco's new viewership record unless she finds real fans that care.

>>5949993
Collab with nyonners when?

Gura is probably the holo that cares the least about numbers, why are chumbuds so obsessed with them?

>>5949993
She will probably be in the middle of the sponsored event when it happens so no. Maybe she'll do something later tho.

"Oh, the number reached 3 million? Wow, that's crazy! Thank you guys!"
There's your celebration.

>>5949993
I-is that... a VTUBER???!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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LELEL XD SO KAWAIIIIIIIIII THEY'RE JUST LIEK MY JAPANESE MOESHIT GACHAS ^_^ :3 UwU oMG SHE'S LITERALYL JUST LIKE ME I'M A CUTE CATGIRL JUST LIKE OKAYU-SAN MOGU MOGUUUUU!!!!! yes atashi wa transu onna no ko desu just like lily from zombieland don't like it have sex loser incels uwu :3 korone-chan so KAWAII NE i want a doggo waifu just like okayun oh god her soft furry ears on my oh godddDDDDDDDDD i'm about to CUM JUST thinking about it KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FIDOOOOOOOOO COME HERE BITCH

BGHGGGGAAHHHHHHHH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH KORONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YESSSSSSSSSS UNF UNF UNF UNF NNGGGGGAAARRRGRGGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NGGAHHH OH GOD IGVE ME THAT DOG PUSSY UNF UNF UNF UNF UNF

SO KAWAII DESU NEEEEEEEE HERE IT COMES HERE'S THE SAIKOU NA HORORAIBU ARHGUGHGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGHGHG YES YES YESSSSSSSSSS UNF YES HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M COOOOOOMMMMMMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!

YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI

YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI YUBI

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Of course not.

I doubt she's gonna get 30k subs in a day so Kiara cant make it awkward for her either.

they know they aren't more talented than their genmates, never mind JP. Deep down they know they don't deserve the success, it's just viral luck. Is Ina far worse than she is? No. Is Flare far worse than Noel? No. Sometimes you just get lucky.

>>5950130
Don't mistake falseflaggers who can't stop obsessing about numbers with real chumbuds.

she didnt even tweet about it

No because Gura never wanted to be this big and she does whatever she can to direct her mind away from it. Others may congratulate her on it, which is cool, but she's not going to bring attention to it. She's just going to keep having fun. My hope is that management doesn't try to pressure her to do a bunch of stuff under the banner of being the biggest.

>>5949993
Probably not unless Kiara's says something again.

we already celebrated last night on her bed anon, dont annoy her please

>>5950130
Real chumbuds don't care. It's falseflaggers and people who just wanna shitpost.

they are well aware they don't deserve far more success (statistically) over their genmates

>>5950130
You're absolutely delusional if you think the only people caring about her records are chumbuds only. People in general just like numbers and records and like to talk about it.

>>5950121
What? She has a large enough membership base.

>>5950353
>deserving stuff

>>5949993
yes, but i won't tell you the reason behind it

>>5950130

Real chumbuds don't care that much about numbers, tho'. It's mostly numberfags and shitposters because its good shitpost.

They know they don't deserve this; its only because of their shitposts as HER allowed them to snowball uncontrollably.

live sex celebration with ame

>>5949993
>1M
https://youtu.be/K6DM1Ikdv80
>yay we hit the milestone together calli... so about the gacha pig boys
>2M
https://youtu.be/LwFcDoT7kBI
>yay we hit 2M... so about that dagger

>>5949993
3 millions is nothing to her. Maybe when she gets to 5?

>>5950281
why did she even join Holo then? She could have stayed independent doing her thing.

>>5951421
Clean break from a sordid past. I love Senz's shit but I can understand why someone would want to start fresh after having played the alcoholic lewd loli shitposter for so long.

>>5949993
Incrementing 10k every 24 hours or so. She'll hit 3 million on July 4.

What better day to do it?

>>5951421
Becasue she didn't like it.

>>5950043
based kiara will do it

>>5950130
You seem like the type of guy that would believe it's "Chumbuds" when they said they want Gura to graduate for big numbers.

>>5949993
nah
this shit is beneath her.

>>5951421
To get away from schizos like (You) anon-kun...

>>5950281
That one part where Ame asked her who the second most subscribed vtuber was and she got audibly uncomfortable really drove that home for me.

>>5956461
You have a clip? Bashful shark sounds cute

>>5950121
Anon, her members are fucking obsessed with her
She gets $3-4k on regular streams if she reads supas, and only collabs put her in the $1000 range.

>>5949993
she didnt really celebrate 1 mil, why do you think she would be petty enough to brag about being the new big fish when she already thinks she is undeserving of her massive fanbase, check your projecting mate.

>>5950627
>Real chumbuds don't care that much about numbers
No true Scotsman fallacy

>>5950186
>>5950353
>>5950678
>they
>they
>they
>they

>>5950181
Never underestimate the bird.

>>5949993
Why are you faggots so obsessed with her celebrating?
She just wants to play games and sing for her fans.
I'm sure she will do another karaoke celebration stream where she sings senpais' songs like Weather Hackers and Ghost, but don't expect her to fake cry for becoming the first vtuber to hit that milestone.

>>5949993
no

>>5950411
To elaborate, she has AT LEAST 30,000 members. AT LEAST.

Last screenshot of the fan-discord that requires members to verify their membership for a tag? or status or whatever was 28k+. Then factor in that there's many members that don't even bother with that and well.....

Tons of superchats the shark does not get, but memberships galore. That's just the sorta audience gura has.

>>5950130
chumbud here, i personally don't care either

>>5951421
She was a fan of Fubuki
Source: i saw it in a stream of HER

>>5951421
if you dig deep enough you'll know, here's a hint: discord.

I hope she does so Chumsharts seethe

Gura

>>5950121
Gura's style isn't to demand Rushia style "loyalty" and it wouldn't really work for her audience. Great example of why all the noombers are really stupid for direct comparisons - each vtuber is doing there own things and a lot of the numbers you'd need to understand any of it are proprietary, so you're just dickwaggling based on supers or subs but it's maybe 30% of the picture.

>>5957564
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Chumsharts

>>5957451
ofc they are silent to this fact, as always

>>5957744
Cope

>>5957882
Just like (You)?

>>5951421
They expected ID tier numbers, not this big. I still remember that Luigi Mansion stream where she delightedly commented that chat finally slowed down enough for her to read it.

>>5957744
So this what a mental illness looks like.

>>5949993
>Will she celebrate 3M?
She recently celebrated her birthday, which was far more important

>>5949993
I think the people that care one way or the other all have ulterior motives. They want her to celebrate because they feel she owes them something. They don't want her to celebrate because they want to project some kind of righteousness onto her. They want her to celebrate so that they can call her a bitch for rubbing her success in everyone's face. They don't want her to celebrate so they can claim she doesn't care about Hololive. I want Gura to be happy.

>>5957459
If this is true, seeing her retarded middle schoolers bully Fubuki because of her sub count must've been a sour tasting fruit.

The numbers, Mason... What do they mean?

>Gonna hit 3M on the EN ark stream
>Kiara dying of jealousy
Kekekek, can't wait.

>>5949993
No. Some anons found some HER tweets and now everything makes sense. Ill say this, don't be surprised if she pulls a Nyanners. Her depression isn't because of shyness or anything like that, she simply hates being Gura.

>>5950121
That's a piss poor attempt at twisting reality, even for someone from cow.

>>5956583
It wasn't even cute or bashful... she genuinely seemed very uncomfortable. I assume she holds many of her sempai in high esteem, and sees herself as still in the learning phase and not quite there yet.

>>5951482
what's so special about that day?

>>5964598
Americans celebrate their Independence day on July 4th, in honor of Will Smith's 90s blockbuster movie.

>>5964323
Shouldn't you go back to lolcow.f@rm? We all know that's where you came from.

>>5964747
Cope anon, the tweets were posted in the HER thread. She hates Gura but keeps up the appearances for money.

>>5964563
>I assume she holds many of her sempai in high esteem, and sees herself as still in the learning phase

Which is weird because she's been a part of hololive for longer than 4th gen was when she debuted.

>>5964323
>she simply hates being Gura.

retard. She's much happier than she used to be

>>5964877
Moo, moo. The cow beckons.

>>5964900
She's a harsh critic of herself I assume.

>>5964934
She likes the money, not being Gura. That's why she stays away from the spotlight as much as possible.

>>5956583
Not cute at all... she can't handle it at all.
https://youtu.be/oRMh4sP4J4s?t=6476

>>5964323
>>5964877
>>5965074
t. doesn't watch streams
You people see others in such black and white terms. It's just sad.

>>5950281
Gura hates her model and probably wanted something like what Ame has. There are tweets liked by HER, where people who make fun of Gura type characters.

>>5962607

>>5965295
>2018
It's nothing

>>5965389
>becomes what she hates
>dude it's nothing

>>5965295
Lmao, no way. Is that HER actual account.

>>5965461
It's just a dumb tweet made by someone who also plays a loli type character, she probably only liked it because they were friends. And I know you're going to spin and samefag this dumb rrat for weeks but know that no one cares.

Not unless pressured and she hates all the numberfagging because it alienates her more from everyone else. The senpai's treat her like celebrity or a cute pet. Look at Coco's graduation. Chat lost their shit when she wasn't with her gen and getting a solo talk with the oh she's too big for this shit and the Ame tweet definitely added fuel to the fire. My oshi just wants to grow her melons and play rhythm games and dbd and curse and not have dipshits cry about her using bad words like it's not something she's always done.

>>5950121
>and it's because she hasn't fostered a close knit relationship with her fanbase yet
She has, just with her members. Her membership streams are so comfortable. It's impossible for her to forge a closer bond with the greyname masses of millions of subs because the scale is just too great.

>>5956955
We all know it is a mad tranny

>>5950130
Chumbuds literally never give a fuck about her numbers. The only time I've numberposted about Gura was views on her original song because I know she's really proud of it, creating music that people listen to again and again is an actual achievement and something she's dreamed of and worked hard towards.

>>5951421
>why did she even join Holo then?
Because she was a big hololive fan and wanted to be involved in some way with it. She didn't expect to blow up overnight and become the most popular one in a matter of months. Her original plan was to buy a new cute shark plushie every 100k subs and then it happened so fast she abandoned it because she would have felt weird about it.

>>5963439
>seeing her retarded middle schoolers bully Fubuki
You mean the /hlg/ falseflag raid?

No because the only number that she gives a fuck is her rhythm game accuracy percentage

>>5965074
Anon, how many times do we keep repeating that threadwatchers don't count as opinions

>>5965295

>>5964181
Why are you a faggot?

>>5965907
None of them expected 1 mil in under a year - looking back at their debuts, most of them were expecting at least 100k by that same time period

Now imagine not just getting 1 mil, but breaking the record for highest subbed Vtuber channel on Youtube

>>5965295
Why are you a faggot OP?

>>5964181

>>5951421
Do you even watch her streams? Or listen to Reflect? Are you serious?

I posted this in another thread but its relevant here.
Gura hates HER because HER "fans" treat HER like cheap entertainment, like a sideshow at a bar. They don't care about her. They only want to laugh at a depressed person who hates their life. They don't want her to change because it means losing a cheap laugh. They want her to stay a broken, frustrated person who isn't going anywhere because that's exactly who they are and don't want to see others succeed. It's incredibly easy to see through this and Gura isn't stupid. She knows these people are shitstains that chain her from progress. Which is why when given the chance to change she took it. There's a clip out there where she says something like "When HoloLive gave me a chance, it felt like someone finally believed in me". It's obvious she knows she had no real fans. Just shitbags with the crab in the bucket mentality.

Why the fuck would she want to wallow in that environment? HoloLive was a chance for her to get somewhere in life. To move on from stagnation. And guess what, EVERYONE should be doing that but very few anons will. And that is why we post on an image board for chinese cartoons.

>>5965907
You can't fool me Gura I know you have 30 cute shark plushies laying around. I also know you sleep on a pile of plushies instead of your bed.

>>5956461
I remember that. Amelia trying to flatter, Gura trying to brush it off. It really is evident that Gura never set out to achieve it and she feels wrong in a way for doing it. Knowing others were at it for longer and doing more. It doesn't mess with her on stream though, and I think that's admirable.

The only EN girls that actively talk about numbers are Mori and Kiara, which are for the reasons of being thankful for what they've been given and asking themselves why they have so much support.
Mori feeling she needs to keep meeting crazy expectations (and then burning herself) and Kiara feeling like some of it is pity (but then saying she hopes she can convince anyone who joined like that to support her for real) All five of them are good girls.

you faggots make me wish Kiara or Mori took her place cause they want the numbers, but le meme shark that people still think is a crass gremlin that shitposts when she's a girl that joined Hololive to find real friends and do something her parents are actually proud of

>>5950233
Falseflaggers sure are a thing, but it doesn't change the fact that a bit chunk of cumbuckets is in fact numberfagging a lot. Just go to prestream chat of any of Gura's streams and you'll witness giant numberfag wank

>>5966684
Kiara's a weird one. I believe she's honestly a very good and genuine person. But she really wears her heart on her sleeve in terms of her popularity thing and its clear it really gets to her that she's the last among her best friends. If she drops that mentality she would be happier but its hard to let go sometimes. She's a very stereotypical girl through and through IMO but her heart is in the right place. For people like us who never talk to real wahmen or are friends with one it's a very different and sometimes offputting experience.

>>5966799
No one wants Kiara to get numbers. We all know she's going to lord it over everyone else, and talk about how she's the best.

>>5950809
>3M
>yay we hit 3M... So about that ARK collab

She will and it it will do 250k. Too bad thats not even fucking close to relevant for cumcucks.

>>5966905
and that's exactly what numberfags want anon, Mori would do the same too and happily take the praise. Gura just wants to hang out but it's sad to know that her real friends, EN are going to bug her about the milestone too even if they're coming from a good place. Ame telling her that she's proud of her would cheer her up but her imposter syndrome is something that's never going away

>>5966799
Kiara with those numbers may have been happy, but I fear it would have pushed her over the edge if she didn't have something to drive her. It would have broke Mori, she has the same issue as Gura where she does not want to be the biggest because it triggers the imposter syndrome.
The only things numbers should be used for is being happy so many people enjoy the content. It's not an indication that someone is a better streamer/person or worthy/unworthy of being in Hololive. This is a group which started small and some of the first members got in purely by knowing each other.

>>5966878
I agree with that. It took a little while for me to warm up to Kiara, but I do like her. She's very sweet but her past experiences made her very concerned with proving herself. At this point it may as well be part of her character, always worried that something has conspired against her and she needs to overcome it. It's a little sad to see when it does bring her down but so long as she is having fun, that's good. Self improvement and confidence building is an ongoing process.

>>5951421
According to her, Hololive seemed to have like a "built-in" circle of friends (genmates) and she wanted that, actual caring friends she applied for that reason mostly.
Gura has talked about how her old friends, all of them, turned out to be fakes who only wanted to take advantage of her in a way or other, so she most likely applied in hopes of "cleaning the slate" and start over, new friends, new work, new life, new persona but same familiar workline.

>>5950130
go to /ggg/ and see how many chumbuds numberfag there, it's actively discouraged there

>>5967432
the chumbuds there don't matter in the end, compare that to the many members she has in her chat numberfagging or wanting her to acknowledge the fact she's the biggest vtuber in the world

>>5967477
Why do the chumdumps in her chat matter but not the ones in ggg?

This anon >>5967477 doesn't really get it, numberfags are irrelevant and if they start complaining directly to the Chuuba about it then they become schizos.
>>5967514
They really don't, they might voice their opinions more publicly but that doesn't make them any better.

>>5949993
3M is nothing to cunny shark. The only number that mattered is 10M, then she will get naked to celebrate that

>>5950130
Because she has them, anyone would have this amount of numberfagging with that many subs.

>>5949993
She'll probably sleep through it again.

>>5950787
Yes please

>>5949993

>>5967363
Gura seems to value her genmates as genuine friends. Her impromptu Minecraft stream launching Ina to space is one of my all time favorite streams of hers. Her last TTRPG stream was not only great content, it’s pretty obvious she has a great relationship with Mori too. I think she dislikes that her monster numbers out her on a pedestal, and she seemed happy to play along with everyone at the festival. Hopefully Gen 2 feels more comfortable approaching her

>>5950337
>I gave her an inch for each million of subs, by the end I was balls deep.

>>5966548
Hey anon, fuck you. Not because what you're saying is wrong, it's because you're right and I hate you for it, esp about the bit about stagnation

>>5970296
She might be deliberately sleeping through events like that, can't blame her.

>>5949993
54

Gura is the antitesis of Coco, she doesn't celebrate stuff, she doesn't care about anyone else and yet she holds her ground as the most subbed vtuber, to me it makes no sense but i respect it anyway

>>5975841
based

>>5978611
It's also scary how during the MC Summer Festival, the JP members don't seem to consider or view Gura as a kouhai and it took some of them a lot of nerves and bravery to even interact with her. Miko even noted how nervous she was when she talked with Gura and how Pekora couldn't even hold much of a conversation with her. Some of the JP find her adorable in whatever she does as if they are conditioned to view her as such. It's honestly fucking weird once you wave through all the fluff and comfy in that stream.

>>5984330
They're scared that if they do anything wrong their fans will cause another shitstorm.

>>5984508
I hope that Sora situation won't repeat.
When everyone from JP are too afraid to joke or interact with Gura.

>>5965074
Roommate revivals have been trending lately so why can't she?
What if she's like me and hates everything when they stay there for too long?

https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/1410984236442660867

This tweet and the replies to it are the only proof I need to say chumbuds are a bunch of room temperature IQ numberfags

>>5985739
Embarrassing. Next week they'll cry that all those tweets weren't real Gura fans and just chink falseflaggers, just like they always do.

>>5950121
cowchama...

>>5964323
I'll say it again, cowchama. It's funny how she and Nyanners had very similar beginnings (a facility to meme, wanting to please their friends) but one of them somehow managed to crash and burn the plane and is only slowly recovering, while the other managed to get out of the plane before the crash.

>>5951421
Because she was depressed as fuck and things weren't getting better for her.

>>5985739
The tweet is just basically Crunchyroll reporting on the Vtuber sphere(since Vtubing is part anime and Overtaking AI is quite a big deal in the industry) and most of the replies are just people congratulating Gura, heck some of the comment even have "she may have overtaken AI, but AI is still the original" kinda vibe

>>5984330
That's incredibly sad.

>>5973031
>Hopefully Gen 2 feels more comfortable approaching her
They will idolize Gura-senpai.

>>5985739
>>5985959
>People only congratulating Gura
>Many still acknowledged Ai as the original or even better than Gura
Imagine being so butthurt about people celebrating someone’s success that you try to paint them as shitting over other people

>>5985507
It's kind of like that for them but because of numbers and not because of being the dai-senpai.

>>5985739
why are chumbuds always like this?