/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6177162
For newfriends / fa/tg/uy crossovers: this is a campaign composed mostly of first-timers using a heavily homebrew. Most of the tutorials feature them working out the mechanics of the campaign, with the hard-set rules coming in their first full session together.

The Cast:
>Calli
The GM of the session. Has the most experience of the group in the realm of tabletop; most consider her a journeyman TT'er.
>Kiara
The only other member with any TT experience whatsoever; played a little D&D when she was much younger. Current character is an impoverished gunslinging noblewoman from a foreign land who can communicate with birbs, particularly her pet owl, Uhu.
>Ina
Newbie to the TT experience. Current character is a sleep-deprived, strung-out college student with a talent for both crafting and killing things with a car.
>Amelia
Another newbie to the TT experience. Current character is a malodorous, laconic drug dealer and herbalist from an impoverished slum who gets his way with intimidation and his fists.
>Gura
Yet another newbie to the realm of TT (allegedly). After many iterations and concepts, she has settled on the party's final character: a tough-as-nails, illiterate country girl who lives on an isolated ranch and follows the family trade as a bladesmith. Alongside her crafting talents, she is both a hardy survivor and melee expert who likes to get in the thick of things during combat.

>>6177162
OP's comment to any of the Holo ladies visiting the thread (EL-OH-EL to any chance of that): keep up the good work and be safe this summer, your persons are precious to us all. Deadbeats, KFPers, takos, chumbuds, goslings, this is the thread where all our differences are put aside to enjoy this masterpiece in the works. The campaign has been a blast so far, and we're looking forward to your first full session together!

>>6178005
Don't forget to post any new Mythbreaker art released!

>>6178067
Alright, OP's been samefagging long enough. Tutorial strips posted, thread's geared for discussion.

>>6178067
(and post it to the booru too, it’s a big help!

So we have official designs for all the girls charas except Kiara's. Wonder if she'll have the time to finish hers with how busy she is in the immediate future

>>6179411
She still has a week, should be plenty of time

>>6179411
>no official design
>could have THOUSANDS of willing fans work together to draw up an entire Sistine Chapel of Tiara in all manner of positions and situations
She could toss out a tweet today and receive hundreds of high quality submissions within the hour. If I were a vtuber I'd have no qualms about bugging my audience for stuff like that.

So far pic related has been my favorite, although it steps too far into D&D design.

>>6179411
I thought she said she drew one during a members stream?

Watching Kiara's tutorial right now, 1 hour in. When does it get good/exciting?

>>6179411
Has Watoto gotten any more details past that mspaint drawing?

>>6180255
From my memory it doesn't get particularly exciting it's just a slow burn.

>>6180088
She did and I'm hearing that idea is now dead and she was going to redesign it. That was mentioned during some superchat reading but I couldn't find the timestamp for it, last Friday?

>tfw you'll never run your favorite system with cute vtuber players
Suffering.mp4

>>6179993
>although it steps too far into D&D design.
That's underselling it. It's entirely fantasy. I'm not being ironic when I say the ONLY parts of that design that gel with WoD are the socks and undershirt. It's not bad art either, it's just entirely the wrong genre.

Man, it's pretty hard getting into CofD. Hunter the Vigil 2e isn't out yet and Mummy the Curse 2e isn't uploaded anywhere. I don't want to go back to old books because it feels wrong...

t. deadbeat

>>6180472
Mummy 2e is in the good trove but those have been taken down for a bit. I'll upload that backer copy and the Hunter manuscript to r/worldofdarkness vola.

>>6180472
Honestly, I prefer to use CofD combat and old book most everything else - I don't care for a lot of the CofD additions

>>6180525
>>6180472
Done and Done. Although I would suggest two things. Firstly, the core Chronicles of Darkness book is great for Hunter prelude stories. Hunter's backer copy is in proofing right now and will likely be out by the end of the month, or early next. Mummy is a weird game though, it's got some very asynchronous expectations for group composition and is pretty complicated in places. My personal favorite (most of the time, I like them all too much to really pick) would be Vampire: the Requiem 2nd and I tend to think that's much easier to get into and run. Not that you can't start with Mummy of course, so long as you know what you're in for. MtC2e is really great.

>>6180689
I've heard some kickass things about DtD too but I'm super lost. Do you need the Core Chronicles of Darkness book for that or can it be standalone?

>>6180880
Yes, you need the core Chronicles book. It was the first book to come out with the 2e rules, nWoD books all needed the World of Darkness book in addition to the splat book to work. DtD follows that trend, but includes a load of errata at the back of the book to update the WoD book to CofD rules. So you can use WoD and update it, or just use CofD and not have to bother. DtD is super fucking good though. Loads of great stuff in there from it's themes, setting, mechanics, and aesthetics.

>>6181094
I'm sure it is a good game but damn I really don't want to have to cross reference between two books like that.

>>6181204
Yeah, most people don't. But all the core rules appear in other CofD books. So when you know them you know enough to play Demon. Although I'd generally suggest using the core Chronicles book with every other 2e book anyway, more options and systems in there for other things to use.

>>6180255
When she goes to the spooky mansion. All the girls have a real ramp up about halfway through, with the final hour often being legit tense.

>>6179993
The plus is, that she got encouraged not to be bullied by retard artist into "hurr durr Kiara in cosplay". We have at least something semiconcrete, behold, a hat

>>6180255
>struggles to leave the shop during her shift
>spitefully plants to get Vic fired for being a fuckoff
>closes down shop despite being battered and suffering a gunshot wound

No matter the situation, the autistic German work ethic cannot be quashed.

>>6181850
Cosplay is clearly the way to go. Nothing says "inconspicuous" like dressing for Comic Con year round. Not going to draw any sort of attention to your definitely illegal activities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx9G-XrxLR4
I wonder if whatever this is is the real reason why Holomyth got delayed and Kiara's birthday is just a smoke screen.

>>6180368
I mean, it's not like they are going for a 100% realistic representation of real world in Hunter, it's quite "wacky".
There is a fucking countrygirl that forges swords.

I'm fine tho, don't get me wrong.
Seeing a big mainstream group such as HoloEN use the platform to play a TTRPG that isn't D&D is refreshing.

>>6182171
It's just the Gen 2 announcement, I'm not seeing how that could be the reason it got delayed

>>6182300
The difference is that armorers actually still exist, people still forge swords like that. Nobody actually dresses like they fell out of a bad D&D campaign. It's the same problem people had with Watoto, it exists because of a misunderstanding of what the setting is. Even if you make a goofy game of Hunter it's still set in modern day, more or less.

>>6182418
If that's the case then all the more reason they can't play. Sessions can last over 4 hours and they probably don't want to stream over the announcement.

can a ttrpg nerd explain to a newfag what people are talking about ITT
>game of Hunter
in regards to WoD? I thought games could be whatever you want. Are you supposed to be limited to a setting or set of worldbuilding rules or something?

>>6182760
Hunter as in Hunter: The Vigil, the New World of Darkness/Chronicles of Darkness tabletop role playing game. Games can be whatever you want, but that doesn't mean there isn't a setting, or expectations baked into the game, or rules that favour one thing over another. Hunter is set in the modern day, on a version of the real world where the supernatural exists. You could transplant that to any fantasy setting you want but it's not built with that in mind.

>>6179993
Looks like Arknights character.

>Mori made the campaign 5 episodes specifically so Ame can leave after the first season

>>6182760
>I thought games could be whatever you want
In paper yes, but so games don't devolve into "nuh uh, you didn't hit me, I had a forcefield", there are rules for specific settings/splats.
Since they're using the WoD setting, which has different splats, and Hunter is focused as playing as humans, and is balanced around that, unlike say Vampire or Werewolf.

>>6182171
Calli mentions it at the end of Gura's tutorial.
>next weeks will be hectic, lot of activity
>Calli moving
>Kiara birthday
>Calli needs to 1-on-1 with each member and finalize their char sheets (some of them are toting merits that do nothing in the ruleset)

I'd rather they ease up a bit to get everything refined. Nothing worse than starting the true session and running into a meta-gaming moment where everyone has to consult the rules to figure out wtf is going on

>>6180290
Ame mentioned some details about his design during the same stream that some anons recounted last thread but nothing new if that's what you're asking. Some art has already been posted in the tag that's closer to what she had in mind than before.

I really think they should get enough exp to at least get two new skills at 1. Otherwise it's going to be painful.

>>6184223
They'll be fine

>>6180472
>>6180689
MtC, at least for 2e, is super solid IMO. But the game is a little weird, and it's asynchronous by design. The whole set up is that you're a time-travelling paladin-esque undying servant to a god and granted insane amount of power. You start of at your peak and then degrade until you eventually just die, and you've also got amnesia. It's got a player-lead cult. However, unlike other splats like Geist or Werewolf, the expectations of that cult are a little different. The mummy is the head of the cult, and it's not expected that the whole group will play mummies. It's so rare for everyone to be mummies in setting that it's got it's own special name. So typically one person will play a mummy and the rest will be members of the cult, helping the mummy adjust to the new era, they might be immortal companions of the mummy, or various other things. So it can be hard to get into.

>>6182115
It's not about cosplay-esque thing even (Euros can dress wierd, t. Euro) but it's about it being Kirara in cosplay, not more autonomous character

>>6185455
Any kind of serious obstacle and they die.

>>6187750
I wonder, is that what GMs do nowadays, where they kill new players on the first session or something? When I DM'd a group of new players I always baby them so they at least survive.
I know some GMs where they would kill new players to teach them how harsh the game can be.

>>6187750
What sort of game are you playing where only 1 or 2 skills have obstacles that matter?

>>6185455
>They'll be fine
>3/4 have 0 dots in athletics
>Some have to spend willpower to run
>fine

>>6188187
If Calli throws a load of Ath rolls at them, she'll just be being a shitty GM. They'll be fine.

>>6188555
following the rules is being a shity gm??????????

>>6188669
Where is the rule that all chronicles have to be full of Ath rolls? You do know that GMs set the sort of challenges PCs face, right?

>>6182171
This makes me think that EN2 joining the TTRPG is Mori's backup plan in case one of the EN1 drops at the end of season 1.
If they debut this month, by the end of Season 1, EN2's collab ban is already lifted so they can jump straight to the TTRPG stream.

>>6188727
>what is Dodge in nWoD?

>>6180290
i guess i have to go draw.
here, have a cheezy meme.

>>6190522
Honestly I think Scout fits more into "the fighter" while Yuul is the Truck Freak with her aggressive driving specialty and her Automotive Genius merit

Here's some canon Watoto, maybe Ame will pick a fan art one like Gura once they season starts.
https://twitter.com/KusoJack/status/1412352968653955077
https://twitter.com/KusoJack/status/1412272779202805763
https://twitter.com/sola14kg/status/1412080419613208576

>>6191145
m22h

is watoto supposed to be a goblin????

>>6190324
Dodge, nor Defence, are vital statistics for PCs to have. The sorts of threats they've dealt with thus far do not give a shit about either of those things either. They're not doing shit vs 10+ dice pools. Athletics is not a skill you must have, any GM worth their salt tailors a Chroincle to the PCs.

>>6191145
>>6191204
He's prettier than I'd like, but at least he isn't a fantasy goblin anymore. Small victories.
>>6191254
No, he isn't.

>>6191429
I'm the artist for that Watoto. How would you suggest I make him uglier looking? I might have cleaned it up too much for presentability and just focusing on getting Ame's suggestions right but I could draw him more unhinged in the future.

I also found some good art of Scout and Dr.Nice.

>>6191706
NAYRT, although I agree they could be uglier, but I'd be fine with it so long as you don't make him green.

>>6191802
Needs more mass and more ass.

>>6191706
Freckles, fat nose, maybe a wart in his face.
Pretty much drawing inspiration from my own face as people have called me ugly before.

>>6191802
Finally got a back shot of scouts thong.

>>6191925
Definitely needs more mass and more ass.

>>6191706
Honest, I'm fine as long as he's not a Warcraft goblin. Given Ame's own pitched design for him, we can't even say he should be fat anymore. My impression of what he was supposed to look like was something like pic related, but I suspect Kidby's art isn't all that compatible with anime style drawings.

>>6191917
I think it's not bad but unless Gura has a proper scale on what is considered "bottom heavy" then scout will have inconstant hips.

>>6192030
Shit, this pic.

>>6191917
You will never get more ass unless Gura brings more attention to it beyond her member's stream.

>>6192049
wtf why is the doctor sexy
i like it

>>6191925
I think many are basing they're design on pic related so it's closer to that then anything else.

Also hate this new capthca but what else is new.

>>6191989
Meant to reply to >>6191989 >>6192149

>>6191925
The handle of that pickax is both too long and not stout enough for actual work

>>6192229
I agree that is the design being worked off of, but she's too skinny and needs more butt there anyway.

>>6191829
Not planning on it. I didn't like the whole goblin fanart trend in the beginning either. He'll probably be really pasty though once I actually color. Maybe some dirt on his face.
>>6191919
I considered freckles, actually. But some people find that endearing. I'll play around with it more next time.
>>6192030
>>6192095
I though about pushing it towards the grittier side but like you mentioned I don't think that's what Ame's going for anymore. I kind of draw him with still having Ame's own design in mind, just slightly modified. I appreciate the feedback though.

>>6190522
>>6190822

>>6191429
>>6191829
Should Watoto be ugly? The way NPCs respond to him make it seem like he's just stinky and intimidating (even though he's so short). A more unhinged look could work, like he's capable of doing some fucked up shit but also remains calm in the face of danger. He doesn't need to be ugly to get that menacing aura across, the art here >>6191204 sort of captures that although it could be a little rougher around the edges.
The main issue is the described height and weight, he should be a bit wider.

>>6192693
Currently he's very pretty, nothing about him has been described as such. He should be more average looking IMO.

>>6192693
Yeah I was expecting Kaoru from Nana to Kaoru to be honest.

>>6182492
>Nobody actually dresses like they fell out of a bad D&D campaign
plenty of people in places like Soho and Harajuku do, but those are rich weirdos with more money than sense, which isn't really what any girls' characters are

>>6192693
I believe Ame said while sketching that he had a slender figure so I just assumed she retconed the weight or she's counting the illegal goods in his trenchcoat but I can make him a bit stockier.
>>6192848
I probably leaned into him looking like Ame too much. I'll keep it in mind for the next pass.
>>6192950
Actually didn't think about using him as a reference, that's pretty smart.

>>6184223
>get two new skills at 1
Knowing them, they'll just dump more exp into skills they already have points on

>>6193683
You're really great about taking on feedback. Can't wait to see the next pass, just do what you think looks good though. I think making him a little more average and just a touch more weight to his face would be solid choices.

>>6191421
There's not much an ST can do if the players decide to go headlong into combat and force said Athletics rolls. Calli didn't make Yuul run away from the Hook, Ina did.

>>6193723
What I'd like to see is them putting a point in 2 skills that make the most narrative sense for what they were doing. So everyone is +1 Ath, and then something else. Maybe a couple of dots in merits instead.

>>6192634
Perfect

>>6194545
Yeah, and that's fine. If they do something stupid they're not equipped for they should fail. They all know they need to play smarter than that. 1 Ath is only +1 Def/+2 Dodge. It's not make or break for combat.

>>6194077
I was honestly waiting for this thread to pop up yesterday for feedback as I was drawing him but this is good too. I appreciate all the serious replies. I'll hopefully have something up soon.

>>6195004
It helps that it's good quality non-meme art

>>6194892
Three of them are complete first timers, with Kiara having a pinprick's worth of childhood experience in D&D. These girls don't sit around shitposting on /tg/ either, so their initial idea of tabletop to them is probably Skyrim with words and dice. Oddly the most innovative one of the bunch so far was Gura, but she was leaning on the spergchat a bit at the end when things got hairy (or...fleshy?).

Teebeeaych, a small rule the girls should post up on their monitors or keyboards is "ask the GM". There are countless options that can be taken in TT, the girls simply need to get it hammered into their heads that this isn't a vidya gayme where combat is either move, swing, or block. If there are options to be taken, they should get creative and see if the system allows it; Calli is playing this homebrew pretty loose, so Yuul making a huge roll for crafting up a bomb from gatorade and q-tips shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

>>6193683
Yeah the weight is probably retconed considering Ame's mspaint drawing. Good work so far.

>>6193683
>>6194077
Not those anons but it kinda gives me an X-men toad vibe but with gender bent Ame feel to it.

I'm fine with making it a bit more grotesque but at the same time, Ames characters will be the only male and you know how far artiest would rather draw the females then any guys.

>>6195004
I've got a hell lotta work to go before I'm at your level. I was thinking about the face too and I looked at British dudes to get an idea of common features when I saw this one.

>>6195731
Yeah, and they're gonna fuck up regardless of where they put their XP. So the people in the "They need X" camp aren't going to help anything. 1 dot in Ath isn't going to save them from poor decision making. I agree they should all get a point in it at some point, but it's not vital for PCs regardless of who is playing them. Calli should be tailoring things to suit their PCs too. None of their characters are gifted athletes so making a Chronicle where that is required is bad GMing. I don't see her making such a newb mistake though. While I understand the sentiment of that last bit, there does need to be actual limits. If there isn't then there is no hope for tension because you can solve most problems with a shoelace and pocket lint. They're gonna be fine regardless.

>>6196349
Not the artist but I agree that Alfie Allen wouldn't be a bad reference.

Did Ame remove the 'greenish hue skin' part from her character?

>>6197065
Yes, because she realised she's not a goblin.

>>6196253
He's also a good face claim. I have lots to consider! But i'll probably not deviate too much more than what I have already since people would probably prefer someone that's not too ugly. I think I just need to draw him in situations where I can show off his gross gangliness in his demeanor.
>>6196349
You should still draw your interpretation! The fun of TTRPGs is even when there's a canon design, deviating slightly is what makes yours unique. I like when a design is pretty close but is still recognizable as "X-artist's Watoto". Good luck!

>>6197588
I was sort of hoping for Ame to work that into the character's lore: living in such squalid conditions, crafting all manner of drugs without proper protection, and good bit of self-experimentation has fucked him up so badly his skin tone has taken on a strange hue, like those guys who drink that blue mineral in their water, or the Scarecrow from Batman, who has gassed and injected himself to the point that he doesn't really need the mask to look like a scarecrow anymore.

>>6197588
She should have just kept it. Blue skin is rare in people and they just need to make it so instead of blue it's green.

>>6198001
You mean the people who drank colloidal silver?

>>6198150
Yea that's it, I was typing on the fly, didn't wanna bother with the googles. On the flipside, Watoto could be one of those weirdos who eats massive amounts of wheatgrass due to its (alleged) health benefits, so much that his blood is chlorophyll-tainted. We're in a semi-fantasy universe, might as well have some fun with Watoto's conspiracy-side.

>>6197856
Thanks, I'll keep at it. I definitely feel like I'm improving a lot compared to about three weeks ago when I picked up drawing again. Trying to maintain a critical eye on my own work and learning what I can.

So which hologirl is going to RP their character needing to go to the bathroom only to see a monster and go in their pants?

>>6198502
You can get liquid chlorophyll to drink but even then, you'd have to consume an insane amount of it before it manages to work its way up into the epidermis or find a way to bind it with salts. Silver salt in stomach acid entering the bloodstream and settling in the skin is how he blue himself. More plausibly, topical ointments and balms. Perhaps in pursuit of invisibility?

>>6199981
Just as likely he is filthy as fuck and has moss and fungus growing on him like a bad infection.

>>6198870
yuul

>>6188090
Depends on the GM, I guess - there was that one moron on the /tg/ thread who spammed about how pissed he was that Mori didn't kill off Ina's character in their first session, both there and in /wah/.

>>6200751
let's gooo

>>6198870
That's absolutely a Gura maneuver.

who is VIC? i couldn't watch ina's live
>watch ina's live
im 2 hours into yuul's session and i can't take how slow this is i literally fell asleep twice please spare me the suffering or just tell me to fuck off

>>6200751
Hell, you could probably just say he's dirty as fuck and that makes his skin look kinda greenish, since he works with plants all the time and it's just plant residue or some shit.

>>6201415
Leave it in the background or something. Like when commuting to work, or cooking, or showering or jacking off..

>>6201415
Vic was introduced in Kiara's session. Keep it in the background while you do something else.

>>6190822
The reason I put scout as the truck freak and not yuul is because layed back was was to good to not put as yuul. And also scout being the country girl who steals her dads Ford I felt she probably has little bit of truck freak in her.

Where are people trying to bend over backwards to justify this green thing? Why not just have him not be green?

>>6202923
We got at least another week before session 1. We're looking for things to talk about.

KJ here! I went ahead and did a second pass on Watoto based on my first go (>>6191145)
after some of the replies here earlier. I'll be honest, I can't really decide which to stick with! This time around I was able to achieve the sunken-in eyes look I couldn't before thanks to anon suggestions. But I also still like the first design and am unsure which would be better received in the end? Perhaps I could find a middle ground when I finalize.

I'm not really intending on Ame picking my design as the final ref, i'm sure there's better artists already working on it and i'm just having a bit of fun.

>>6203985
He needs the mustache and hat.

>>6204234
Yes, I drew them in the first pass! I just thought they'd cover his features in this case as i'm comparing the two so I didn't draw them.

>>6203985
9/10 KJ. That looks super solid. Obviously still missing a few bits of appearal and colouring but I like that way more. Easily the best one of these out there IMO. My only critique is their eyes look a little too glassy, which I'm assuming is because drugs. I'm sure that's a thing that'll look better with colour though. Without colour they look a little dead right now. That's my only complaint though, and it's minor. Great work, dude.

Also speaking of the hat. Has anyone mentioned how dumb the hat is? The whole point of tinfoil hats are to project you from radio waves and stuff, but Ame gave it an antenna which has the opposite effect.

>>6204324
Thanks anon! Yeah everything's just a bit flat right now the way i'm sketching it but i'll render and color a proper ref sheet once i've gotten some more feedback. I'll probably tweet this second pass out later once I clean it a little and see the response too. Not sure what i'll end up with in the end but this has been pretty fun to work on.

Also yeah it's a silly design but I quite like the absurdity. I can already see them resorting to using Watoto as some sort of 5G tower later down the campaign and he'd probably hate it.

>>6203985
Yeah, I agree with the other guys. This looks better. At the very least, he doesn't look as much like a twink from one of Ame's otome games as he did before. But yeah, the mustache and hat complete the look. The only other possible feature he might have is a burn from his "potion making".

>>6203985
The addition of freckles, more sunken eyes, and a slight gut* are good. I also like the first design because it looks more mature and the more rounded facial features of your second pass make him seem less intimidating. IMO keeping the face shape of the first and adding the extra details of the second pass, then aging it up would be ideal.
Again great artwork.

>>6204534
Don't mention it, it's great work. My only thoughts on the mustache is that it should probably be just a little scruffy. Not a total mess but not perfectly styled either. Can't wait to see revisions and colours and stuff.

>>6204768
For a character like this I don't think the youthful face really lends anything to him being intimidating, not that I think his appearance matters for that in this case anyway. The more square face he has know makes him look a little stockier and more blunt, both of which are good if intimidation is the goal.

>>6204840
If he has no concept of basic hygiene why does he still have a full set of teeth?

>>6203985
Given how Ame played him, I can't help but think of him with a hunch back. Not quite to the disney movie level, but more slouched forward.

>>6204977
I didn't say he didn't?

>>6204624
Like a burn on the face or elsewhere? I really like the idea! I'll consider it.
>>6204768
Thanks! I'll try my best to find a balanced mix by the end. I'll still tweet this as is but I suppose look out for the final design in the tag or if the thread is up i'll post it here too.
>>6205023
I do agree with that. I like the idea that he's usually slouched but can go upright when things get serious. I'll definitely try not to forget in the final sheet.

>>6205197
>Like a burn on the face or elsewhere? I really like the idea! I'll consider it.
You already gave him a glove. A burn scar across the back of his hand would be fun. It's be where it's most likely to happen and isn't like "ew, you made him ugly now" for people who care.

>>6205248
Oh, good point! Alright, i'll do that.

I'm glad this thread is up.

>>6193683
He does have nice hair though, that mustache be looking fine.

So Ame is shy, right? I hope once this is over she's more confident in playing TTRPGs. Getting people into the hobby is nice.

>>6192049
Despite their fears they had a sort of underdog sassyness to them eg "Gun for intruders", "Call my mom". Maybe this could be shown more?

If It weren't for the 1 month collab ban, I'd be hoping that the first session got delayed so that the vsinger could get a character rolled up and join. Unless the vsinger is considered part of them? I know that EN "doesn't have generations", but most people are still considering her as gen 1.5.

>>6207037
She can join anytime, just have her drop halfway through the story.

>inb4 rrats complain she's a Poochie hogging the spotlight because she's mint new

>>6207037
she'll probably be like coco

>>6208340
>It turns out to actually be coco

Other guy here, gave it a shot.

>>6207037
There will probably be no one month collab ban for her. I mean, she's alone and there's nothing else for her to do aside from make music and do utawakus unless Cover also mandates her to become a streamer.

>>6209500
He looks french. Just need a mushroom baguette and a watototo in a 'hon hon hon' style.

>>6209741
Haha, alas not quite what I was after. Any specific points I should try to improve upon?

>>6209855
The mustache is too thin and he otherwise looks too 'clean'. The clean bit is just how I kinda see him being a step above hobo fashion.

>>6205197
> can go upright when things get serious.
Did Ame keep him being an absolute 4'6" manlet? The idea of him standing upright and still not even reaching neck height is just funny to me.

>>6203985
oh_no_hes_hot

>>6210163
Calli please. I know you can just have him grow a beard, but don't try to ERP with a coworker's character even if he is your type.

>>6209979
There was another version I had but I worried that it might have been playing up the British crackhead angle a bit too hard.

Gave my own spin on Watoto

>>6177162
Best thread on this board.
Sorry for shitting it up, but it had to be said.

>>6210305
> worried that it might have been playing up the British crackhead angle a bit too hard.
He does make, deal, and use his own product along with how his family lives not really lending itself to being particularly clean.

Is there anyone that make a logbook for this series? I found the Chinese one from huntermyth hashtag

>>6211149
What's a logbook in this context? Some sort of stenograph of each session or something?

>>6212429
short information about each characters and plot transcription

>>6210684
I like this, actually. It matches Ame's initial description, skin aside.

Hello friends! Is anyone here knowledgable enough to say for sure what entity Scout has been dealing with in that cave?
It's just so different from I have experiences relating to WoD settings.

>>6215471
A few threads back someone made a convincing case it was a rank 3 spirit or something from nWoD.

>>6215471
Either Mage fuckery, or just Mori's OC.

>>6215471
something something spirit essence sacrifice just check the usual place

How do you think Vic healed Yuul from suffering lethal damage without turning her into a ghoul?

>>6217100
I've thought about this and honestly, the most plausible thing right now is coordinated effort between Scout, Dr. Nice, maybe Watoto to patch up and then as part of the allocating experience portion of the first session, they explain the regeneration through a bit of a timeskip.

>>6215471
I think of it as some kind of hell mouth that grands wishes in return for human sacrifices. Which is why the metals turned to dust as the payment for humans was getting low due to Dr.Nice being around belt buckle for two months.

>>6217196
The problem with this is that only Watoto meet up with Yuul and Vic after feeling from The Hook. Vic somehow fixed up Yuul enough for her to be able to drive since she was passed out from her lethal damage. But I'm pretty sure Mori will come up with a way to explain it that don't involve Vic giving Yuul her blood if he happens to be a Vampire.

>>6217100
without knowing if the talked about ghouls offstream, it could be entirely possible still that Ina agreed to become a ghoul, but i'm not familiar enough with the game to know how that would affect Yuul going forward gameplay wise

Which place will they stay in Mythton? Tiaras apartment or Yuuls dorm?

>>6218685
Watoto's trailer or the bar.

>>6218685
Probably the bar. Tiara's probably been evicted, Watoto's home is a wreck and probably too far away, Scout's home is probably too far away, Yuul's dorm is probably not big enough for everyone

>>6217586
Vic still has to spend Willpower to turn Yuul into a Ghoul

>>6219269
Scout's home is probably being investigated for supernatural shit

Did any of their schedules update to show when session 1 actually is?

>>6220595
It's probably next week or the week after.

>>6215471
It's a Bane infested mine, this is literally how Pentex was created. NWoDfags need to cope that Calli isn't using NWoD's boring ass spirit types other than the based and excellent Gentry and True Fae from the equally brilliant CtL.

>>6220785
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if both types of spirits coexisted. It adds for more variety.

>>6220785
How could you think nWoD spirits of all things are boring?

>>6220785
>>6220854
I think the best way for the lore splits to go is this:
>oWoD
-Vampires (much more fleshed out backstory and organizations)
-Werewolves (see above, also other changing breeds that don't suck)
-Mages (wackier hijinx)
>nWoD
-Changelings (True Fae, more interesting story tone)
-Demons (Much more interesting concept)
-Prometheans (Only exists in nWoD anyways)
-Deviants (see above)
>Either
-Mummies
-Hunters
>Both
Geists/Wraiths (The Dark Kingdoms are cool but the Kerberoi are a cool concept too)

>>6221073
I pretty much agree with this. Possibly with more of an emphasis on mundane hunters, rather than owods supernatural human hunters.

What if IRyS makes an appearance, even if just as a guest? What if Mori scheduled the next session 2 weeks after Gura's because she's (also) waiting for her debut?

>>6221073
I think that's way too broad to be fair. If you're smashing universes together I'd just rather see cherry picking than taking entire gamelines. Whiles stuff like VtM has way more information, I don't really think that's much of a merit. Especially for this game. Or take something like the Fera, there is not really going to ever been a deep dive into those so I don't think it much matters whether you're using a Corax, or a Brineborn. oWoD also has a lot of pointless edge and messy thematic/tonal stuff

>>6221073
The funny thing about oWoD werewolves is that they are basically the Pure (cofd antagonist werewolves) but even more radical
>>6220785
I'd say it's more likely to be a kind of demon as a lucifuge plothook

>>6221299
One of like 3 types of antagonist woofs, at least.

>>6188158
Athletics and stealth are some of the most important skills in game and they all suck at them.

>>6205402
I hope Anya joins them for season 2.

>>6222420
>most likely to drop out is Ame (just go with it Amelia, this is a big thing, don't be such a bitch)
>trade one irritable brown girl for an even more irritable brown girl
>mfw
Got nothing against Ame, but the community is starved for some TT action. She'd be incredibly selfish to duck out because she can't be arsed to learn a little patience. Typical suburban/city dwelling Western female.

Although if Anya is seriously invested in the endeavor, it would improve the session. Only downside is she and Calli would have to be up at horrible hours to campaign.

>>6207037
I doubt there will be a collab ban, it is mainly there to entrench the talent with her gen, and in this case there would not be much point doing that

>>6223310
A full month might be a bit much but a week or two seem reasonable to actually establish themselves

>Yo, where's that Watoosie weirdo, or whatever the fuck he calls himself? I got people knockin' my door down lookin' for more 'shrooms!
>He kinda vanished after a factory explosion...
>Oh... I knew the guy was screwy, but---
>Now, hold on! We don't know all the facts, it hasn't been investigated. The factory was pretty close to his house, so for all we know, he could've died in the explosion
>Yeah, and the kook was really good at coverin' his tracks, so if he's involved, it's possible we'd never find out!
>Okay, calm down. You're starting to sound like him.

This is sweet I didn't think I'd get so into this. Why is it more entertaining than watching actual fiction?

>>6222420
I wonder what sort of characters the ID girls would make. Self-inserts? Idealized selfs? Fanfic characters?

>>6228040
It's collaborative as opposed to just the author, and the dice rolls add an element of uncertainty.

The first session is in a week yeah?

>>6220892
They're really boring.

>>6228840
Very elucidating, thank you.

>>6221073
Werewolf is meh in both. Vampire is really about your preference, oWoD has a lot of lore nWoD is a sandbox.

>>6228874
No problem. The Fae in CtL are cooler than the Fae in CtD, though. NWoD spirits just don't come close to the soul that OWoD has.

I'm new to TTRPGs. I have no idea what your acronyms means.

>>6228921
>soul
This basically just reads like "IDK, it's just better". Which isn't exactly conducive to any sort of conversation. But you should read the spirit section in the WtF2e book, it's way more interesting than what WtA was doing with them IMO. Shunned by the Moon expands on it further and things get really great then.

>>6228949
Which ones exactly do you want explaining?

>>6210230
>So we RP dates?
>Yes, it's training before TTRPG
>Wait, we will RP dates in RPG?
>*smirks*
t. Calli and Gura in Birbday collab

>>6229004
Nah, I've read it and it's shitboring. WtA spirit dynamics are interesting and actually give you stuff to do.

>>6229449
What sort of stuff to do?

>>6229004
Glad you stopped posting links here you fucking loser.

Heads up to anyone who is actually interested in these games, go to /tg/ and lurk. Reason we can't just post links here like this fuckwit did is because they get taken down. This happened already.

>>6229296
Gura was totally trying to figure out if Doc Nice was Vic before Mori gave him brown hair. It's gonna happen.

>>6228543
When Calli concluded Gura's session, she said 2-3 weeks to avoid stressing the others out with schedules. We won't know for sure until she, or one of the others post their next week schedule. It's either next week the the week after.

>>6229469
Bargaining with them, eating them, getting information they know, gifts from spirits.

>>6231064
Okay, and what about WtA then?

>>6230926
She said she might do a session while sitting on packed boxes. Any deadbraps in the thread should go throw some akka soopas at her asking if she would be comfortable with that. Better to wait a week and guarantee a great opening than risk a shit one just because everyone's too impatient.

>>6191145
>>6191204
>>6191802
>>6191925
>>6192049
>>6203985
>>6209500
>>6210305
>>6210684
>>6217586
>>6218685
All this new art.
it's really hand to land what Gura and the Ame wanted, i gather.

>>6231601
Ame kept the same character but drastically changed their look to better suit the setting, so there is a lot of hold over from when some people thought she was an actual goblin. She only recently gave a proper description.

>>6231834
>some people thought she was an actual goblin
People are fucking stupid sometimes. But I can forgive it, sure, maybe they thought "oh so it's DnD with modern tech, so modern world" But after first session for fuck sake.

>>6221199
>spoiler
iirc, Mori will keep the entire season 1 between the five of EN1.
I think the other 4 members of EN2 are debuting the same week with IRyS. Which would explain why Huntermyth is skipping the whole week.

>>6231834
Doesn't help that it was in a member's only stream either

>>6231834
>mfw Ame spends most of her Oblivion streams making fun of Todd Howard, only to get the YOU CAN DO ANYTHING treatment by her first foray into TT

>>6231939
Gura, Ame and Kiara all did their characters in members only stream as all of them weren't confident in their drawing and each of them couldn't come up with how they looked when they first came up with their background.

Meanwhile Ina publicly draw Yuul with complete confidence and stuck with the basic look while letting chat decide her hair style. It's safe to say the other girls while not intended where intimidated by Inas professional art and didn't want to stream them in public.

Hopefully before or when the season starts both Ame and Kiara will settle with either fan art or their own art they drew.

>>6231601
I just went by what I saw from the screenshot of what ame doodled in the member's stream and tried to render it more accordingly

>>6232365
If they weren't so confident they could have easily commissioned an artist instead. I don't really get why they kept their designs hidden in member's streams. At the very least they could have posted the end result with some notes on twitter and a ton of artists would have even done it for free and submitted ref sheets for them to use.

Who will fuck Vic first, Scout, Yuul, Tiara, or Watoto?

>>6232935
Or, you know. Just not draw one. Are they required to have art for their character? Or does it have to be a 'serious' drawing? The girls could have just drawn doodles or some shit.

>>6203985
What is the tumblr tier otome game twink shit?

>>6222561
Ame doesn't have to play TT just because you want her to. She's above that and doesn't want to deal with the awkward shitshow that is a full EN collab. I don't blame her.

>>6233055
>>6233055
They did draw doodles, they just didn't put them out publicly. And, while it's not a requirement, having a somewhat consistent design is good for fan content generation. Gura herself chose a design from one of the fanart that referenced her member's stream doodle. Although I will agree they could just decide on a final design later down the line if they're still unsure right now.

>>6233132
Don't blame the artist, blame Ame since thats how she drew Watoto

>>6233379
Okay, I'll blame Ame.
She fucking sucks and I can't wait till she leaves the game.

>>6233379
Ame's character design skills are as bad as her roleplaying then.

So, the Vsinger and Gen 2 will also join up, right?
Hell, maybe someone like ID Gen 2 would work too, since they all have fluent English.

>>6233475
>make their own ttrpg
>it ends up as EN vs ID
would be cool to see

>>6233409
>>6233434
I hope that Ina is redrawing them all for that supposed trailer that Calli is making for the future collabs when they actually start the campaign, since according to her Bayonetta streams she has a much more Joe Pesci/Danny Devito concept for Watoto.

>>6233518
I could totally see Ollie being a Puck-like trickster antagonist and Risu or Moona as a hidden benefactor of the party.

>>6233475
Mori should DM a second game with the ID2 crew because it would work out well as far as time zones are concerned. Then maybe they could have a crossover at some point, which is something I've seen other online DMs that run multiple concurrent games do. It would be a lot of work for Mori, but she seems to really enjoy this.

>>6210684
Best version so far

>>6233610
Someone superchat her this idea
She said that this is her favorite thing so far she has done while in Hololive, having two campaigns having crossover would build a lot of hype.

>>6233697
I imagine Anya and Ollie would be down, but would Reine agree to it or be capable?

>>6233132
This is what people had to go off of.
>>6233536
That was when Ame made his height and weight more portly at the start. She's since changed it to a 'slender' guy so Ina would have to draw this instead unless Ame changes her mind again.

>>6233812
I know that is a mustache, but I always see it as a MASSIVE upper lip.

>>6231601
Yeah, it's pretty hard to nail down a design when the original idea is a member-only stream so we have to rely on someone leaking images and even then, you don't get much of the commentary behind the ideas. I, for one, drew Scout with relatively even hourglass proportions purely because of what Gura showed publicly. Apparently in the member stream, she was meant to be pear-shaped.

>>6233812
Gura's Scout drawing, comparatively, is immediately better to work off of even if you just saw the image.

>>6233812
Not giving Watoto an unkempt mullet was a huge blunder. Seedy trailer trash types always sport a mullet or some variant thereof.

>>6232365
Kirara wasn't confident in skills and desing and didn't finish it, planed to scrap it.
Gura had a whole desing figured out, lacked skills, and encouraged members to draw her sohe can choose one of them.
Ame winged it during paint stream iirc, still done better than 80% of Watoto's art.

>>6235221
Kiara didn't have a problem with skill, her problem was purely design because she was the first one up and felt pressured by already existing fanart.

I checked Ame's likes out of curiosity.

>>6236257
why does it look like he needs to take a piss?

>>6236257
It looks like a zombie

>>6236257
That's a shitty cartoony version that doesn't help me understand what Watoto looks like at all. I'm starting to wish that Ame somehow just gets a new character. Watoto doesn't fit the scenario at all.

>>6233055
Why not draw their characters? It's basically free content.

>>6234040
>You will never hear Scout playfully remind you she's 18

>>6238085
That clearly says 18-20, anon. That's her canon age.

>>6233610
>>6233697
I will say that being the Storyteller is a LOT of work. Given how overworked our reaper is already, doing it all twice over would be positively exhausting.

>>6241961
>Some type of job that keeps her in glorious Nippon (implied to be education related, garners no real money)
>music passion (also no money)
>vtubing (her meal ticket)
Poor Calli has really gotten herself in a bit of a jam with her career choices. If she drops the job, she gets the Kiara treatment and gets booted back to her homeland; her music is her passion, so that's not going anywhere; vtubing is how she makes any real money, so she can't drop that either (not even mentioning it would devastate her genmates, Gura and Kiara in particular).

I've criticized the holos plenty for their foibles and fuckups, but dumping on poor pinky makes me feel absurdly guilty. Her dilemma is uniquely difficult in terms of finding a solution. The optimal outcome would be Cover putting in the legwork and getting her some kind of permanent residency (or hell, even Japanese citizenship, if waito piggus can even get that?) so she can drop the wageslaving and split her time between her music and vtubing. If that happened, we'd see a very, very different reaper for sure.
>capcha: TAKOS

>>6236835
To be fair to her, this was the only art of Watoto at the time that's based on her design and was also tagged with her usual art tag so she might've only seen this and not anything else. We'll see closer to when the campaign starts.
>>6241961
If the first campaign goes over really well they could just do a second season in another year or so maybe. I don't see her doing another one immediately after this one ends. Takes a lot of prep work especially if there's going to be even more people to teach for the first time.

>>6231916
>4 memebers of EN
that was a joke, a fake meme. do you really think Koko Kaine is coming to Holo?

>>6243774
Haven't watched her since last year so maybe I'm wrong, but I thought she already dropped her scythe swinging lessons job. I don’t know how she hasn't gotten the Kiara treatment, but I guess she found a way to stay?

>>6245584
If it's the JET program, you can change your visa status as the contract ends. AFAIK this was possible for Kiara too, but Kiara also really wanted to go home anyway

I sure hope they play Demon the Descent one day. Ina should be aware that demons have an ability to literally weaponize puns.

>>6210684
I don't understand Watoto. Is he an old man or not? Ame seems to think that he is but her tutorial campaign makes him seem much younger.

>>6246856
He is quite literally retarded, he can be anywhere from 15 to 40.

>>6246856
Watoto is a mistake. That's what he is.

>>6247157
Oh fuck off. I've DM'd ames where players make joke characters and after a few session they became like, a core part of the team and was actually serious.
I fucking hate people like you.
>he doesnt fit the setting
>ame made a joke character so she's not taking this seriously
God, drink bleach already.

>>6247357
Sorry your oshi got exposed. Please don't kill yourself, I know how fragile teamates are. It gets better.

They haven't had their first group session yet, relax.

>>6247357
It's this one asshole that wants Ame to drop out of the game and constantly posts about it. There are a lot of his kind on this board. Ignore him, and maybe he'll go away.

>>6240719
I hope you're not being thick on purpose.

>>6247544
I want to walk Scout home gently after she tells me she's 18

>>6247544
I think that's what is called a "joke", anon.

>>6240719
>18 - 20 = 2
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH CUNNY 2 YEARS OLD SCOUT T U T

>>6247783
I like this kind of math

>>6177162
How can Vic be a prince? Prince is a title of leadership in a domain and he does not seem like a leader kind of guy.

>>6248134
Ex-Prince, no?

>>6248134
It's Mythton, Anytown USA. He was probably first vampire there and went "Gusses I am a prince now, sweet"

>>6233132
>>6233197
>>6233434
>>6233610
>>6233808
>>6233860
>>6236835
>>6247157
>>6247393
are you same person?

>>6250159
Pretty sure banned people can't reply, anon.

>>6233697
Just post it on her thread a couple of times. She might see it.

>the Asian chick specializes in vehicular manslaughter
Jesus Christ

>>6248467
>>6249767
Its still a title with weight, but yeah, he was probably made fun of and told the only place he could be a prince of was places like Mythton and he thought they were serious about it

>>6234040
>>6247579
>tfw Gura playfully asked Doc "are you scared of the dark mister?" I picture scout swinging her hips
Such a mesugaki even when playing the legal age.

>>6231098
That is wta

>>6245895
Kiara was on a Work Holiday visa. It's a special one time visa that can't be renewed, she would've been forced to leave Japan and reapply for a new visa no matter what.

>>6250159
Justice

When there's something strange, then the neighborhood, who you're gonna call?

>>6259656
I'd rather call the local Uratha, they'd probably cause less colateral damage even when in full wolf rage.

>>6188090
>I know some GMs where they would kill new players to teach them how harsh the game can be.

That kinda shit seems like it only really fly if the GM has specifically okayed it with their players before hand - otherwise, that just seems like the best way to turn off new players.

>>6255323
You just perfectly described WtF though, although you missed a few things here and there like making fetishes. So I'm confused by the implication that WtF doesn't give you stuff to do with them.

Talk shit about Ame's Watoto design all you want, at least its not Tiara, who is just Kiara with different clothes. Hell, she was even supposed to be the quiet shy type but nope, she turned into Kiara in an instant.

>>6260982
not like she could be passive in a one-on-one session

>>6218685
I don't think they all need to live together.

>>6260982
You can see in the Vic scene that she tries really hard to be quet and shy, but Kiara is just naturally too loud and you can't help but see only her.

>>6260982
Meh, I think Tiara is fine. I always tell new players to make characters that are similar to them in personality so if they're too shy they don't need to RP as much and just be themselves.

>>6262232
honestly Kiara going full autistic german with Vic was one of the highlights

>>6246152
>Npc asks for a shot of vodka
>Gets literally shot
Kek. How can some people complain that the girls aren't taking the setting seriously when the books themselves encourage slapstick levels of comedy like that?

>>6246152
Basically everything a Demon gets is cool as shit. Descent is amazing.

>>6260982
>>6261441
>>6262232
>>6262409
Kiara's previous(?) profession required a lot of public appearance and performance, which suited her personality perfectly. She's too much of an extrovert whose empathy levels are always running at full capacity; containing herself indefinitely is not humanly possible. The moment her owl was even remotely in any kind of danger, she went from Weimar to full on Blitzkrieg in a matter of seconds. Good move on Calli's part to strip Tiara of her guns before the session; she probably would have murdered her way to Uhu, and then probably shot J-Chad for good measure.

>Calli gets Uhu killed mid-campaign, causing her to start bawling OOC
That would be a session highlight right there.

>>6263619
Because most of them didn't read the books and assume WoD is all serious and angst all the time, same for the players. Shit, old WoD had plenty of morbid/dark comedy bits here and there to spice things up.

Ame's stream schedule went up. Looks like no TTRPG planned till the 14th. Maybe it'll be on the weekend?

>>6266117
>ame already ditching
lmao

>>6266117
Whats taking them so long to start the campaign?

>>6267720
Scheduling conflicts, probably.

>>6267720
Calli is in the process of moving. So far that's the only delay I can see. Can't really make any progress if the GM isn't available.

>>6267845
So it's Calli's fault? Dumb bitch.

>>6266117
Weekend would be best for viewers

>>6267897
I have work on the weekend though.

>>6267984
Well I guess you won't be a viewer then :}

>>6267868
>>6267845
in japan or away from it?

>>6238085
>>6240719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEKSY7XempM&t=14s

>>6271252
>in Japan or away from it
Calli's first living space when she began vtubing was described as a "coffin". She also lived in a rougher part of town (probably an area filled with Japan's underclass of temp Brazilian laborers, if I had to guess). She had a neighbor who rode a motorcycle; chat referred to him as "Ghost Rider" since he would come roaring by at certain times of the day.

Her current living space is somewhere else, though I haven't been able to ascertain much about it. In regards to her future residence, she described it as "less people and less sun" so maybe a little more rural / suburban with some surrounding foliage? Part of me hopes she is relocating to a nice isolated house in the countryside to enjoy some solitude. She has often expressed hesitation to get rowdy during streams due to disturbing her neighbors at all hours of the night, so mayhap this will be an improvement for her.

I just hope her new house is big enough to facilitate the hiring of platonic man-meido deadbeats to take care of all the small stuff like cleaning and meals.
>tfw I'll never get to impress my oshi with the gourmet skills honed for years in isolation
Life is suffering.

>>6272847
What I hope for is that the house is big enough to temporary turn it into ENhous in the future.

>>6273450
Calli is the only EN'er living in glorious mother Nippon, though. The only reason a JP Holohouse could even exist is due to the unique geographical location of the branch. All five of the EN girls are spread across three continents, and in four different countries.

>>6274418
But they all want to visit Japan someday.

>>6274418
>>6274692
They'res been bunch of talk on Moris end in having a holo house to do off collabs with the EN girls on her super chats. Having her convince the other EN girls to Japan to visit is another story.

Ame would have to leave her pets, Gura as far as I know never left her home in her life and Ina would have to ask her strict parents to go meet her genmates to Japan. The only one who could go is Kiara whom iirc has no plans on renewing her visa. Maybe it would all work out and they find some way to meet in person to do such things like TTRPG easier and more personal but right now I don't see that happening and any seasons will have to aligned with each of their schedules.

>>6233013
Chad

>>6275716
They all want to go. Ame has her aunt and brother to take care of the pets. Gura lives alone and fairly away from her family already. Ina visited Japan few times already. Kiara probably waits for other girls.
Plus, they sooner or later will have to visit, to do 3D debut and such.

>>6275932
>implying Chad hasn't fucked
Neeta joining the brohood is just a convincing excuse

>>6276543
Well I do hope they get to meet by the end of the year regardless of 3D debut, they seem to bond more and more with each group collab.

>>6276779
>implying that Chad ever loses
>which includes his virginity

>>6272847
>gourmet skills honed for years in isolation
rice topped with egg?

>>6277385
Chad has no need to lose virginity as he can freely take it whenever he pleases, but choose not to.

>>6231601
i tried Watoto
my art style doesn't fit, i am missing the flavor.
at least i gave it the closest effort

>>6278321
I like it. Better than that twink shit.
You could also make his clothes more tattered. Like his jeans and coats with patches. I don't really know how to explain it.

>>6278321
You should post this on twitter and tag Ame. There's not really a lot of Watoto designs being sent in. Honestly wondering if anyone else will at this point before the campaign starts.

>>6278321
It looks great and I think your style actually fits watoto better than the usual anime stuff. He's not supposed to be some bishoujo pretty boy, so the grittier the better

>>6279354
I have a few saved up from previous threads. It's a difficult design to nail, since most drug dealers in the modern day blow their money on Air Jordans and other superfluous cosmetic shit, while Watoto is in all ways the opposite. Also doesn't help that Ame has been pretty flip-floppy on the matter as well.

>>6279898

>>6279930

>>6279898
>>6279930
>>6279957
Were these on twitter? They're really great actually. Ame should pick one of these. I think people would like the first one especially more than the "twink shit" I drew which seems to be upsetting a few people, even though I said i'm not really intending on my design being picked or anything.

>>6277385
>>6278126
Chad can easily take someone Virginity without losing his own.

>>6280040
Eh, that was one dude bitching about "twink shit". He's also the one that wanted Ame to drop out entirely. I'm pretty sure he would post that he wants Ame to graduate, if we could track his posts in other threads. Don't worry too much about it,