/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>62164607
When you think about it, there's an infinite amount of unrealized vtubers, which are exactly like her

>>62164607
No. People should be their own selves. Nobody needs a dozen Gura ripoff tryhards.
This is a stupid mindset.

>>62164607
The monkey's paw curls a finger. No vtuber ever streams again except for promotional events.

>more vtubers should never stream

>>62164784
>tryhards
If you want to be like gura you definitely should not tryhard lmao

>>62164828
That's exactly what I wanted.

>>62164607

Alcohol is expensive

They can copy some of her best qualities.
Or they can just read the things to avoid and opsec links from /asp/

>>62164607
ghosting?

>>62164607
there's a reason everyone calls her gura god

>>62165825
Gura can afford to lose 90% of herpaypig and be fine, can't say the same for the 2views tho

>>62164607
What does that even mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvS5mP8TjLk

>>62164607
cunny?
yes!

>>62178027
Cute and funny!
>>>/gif/26179040

>>62164607
I agree with this

>>62164607
Mori's taking notes.

>>62178271
yo wtf

>>62190437
Something wrong anon?

>>62164607
Quality > Quantity

>>62164607
In what way?

>>62164607
yeah, sure whatever you say

>>62192377
It's easy if your quantity is always 0

>>62164607
Unironically there's no one else on en vchuuba scene that can be like her, she's an unique blend of talented + broken (in a not disgusting way, like being a slut or having daddy issues) enough that is able to attract everyone which is exactly what allowed her to build the entire en vtuber scene by herself despite streaming very little comparatively to others.
Everyone can instantly and instinctively tell that she's better than everyone else, which is why her antis are so mindbroken they are constantly grasping at straws to produce rrats even when she hasn't streamed for several months. No one else would get that sort of attention from fans and antis alike, and her case is the only one we have proof of that this wasn't due to the blue dorito given her past success.

get neg diffed by a depressed, alcoholic retard, random 2view that will never find success lmao

>>62197553
>a depressed, alcoholic retard,
Isn't that Gura?

>>62171802
Gura used to be a 2view btw, she was very casual back then too. Chat was always a blast too once she boozed up a bit.

>>62196910
>always

>can't stream for some reason
>completely refuses to be a vtweeter
dare I say, based?

>>62164607
Then no one would be streaming

>>62196910
In the last 30 days with 0 quantity, Gura's channel still averaged 125,246 views per day.
That's due to quality.

There is no other vtuber like Gura out there, she is irreplaceable.

>>62198775
Learn to read retardchama, thats literally the point, most 2 views no matter how hard they work will always be inferior to a retard dunkard which is incredibly funny

>>62202870 (me)
Meant to say ALL, literally every single person streaming as a vtuber right now and every single one that will stream in the en sphere will always be playing second fiddle to her, even if Gura graduates tomorrow thats how big the difference in quality is

>>62197553
when she actually streamed without the blue dorito, she was topping out at a 3view level, meaning every single indie vTuber that reached 4view status (Shylily, Ironmouse, Fillian etc.) is better than her by your own definition

>>62203050
She wasn't really a streamer then newfaggot, she mostly produced other content. Besides, that was before she blew the vtuber scene wide open by herself, she might've been a 3view streamer, but that was pretty fucking huge by en standards back then.
Plus, you can't convince me that if she actually tried back then, she could've had a similar level of success through streams on her solo persona, she just couldn't be bothered, which tends to be her main problem really

>>62203170
she was more of a streamer then than she is now
and the "she didn't even try" is immense cope because she hardly tried during her entire stay in Holo

>>62203242
?
Are you retarded?
My point is that she barely even tried back then to stream (which is true), just because she barely tries now, doesn't make it untrue that she also barely tried back then.
Actually it just makes it even more true, because this time she barely tries and she still got massively sucessful (disproportionately so compared to her peers), so it's basically guaranteed that if she tried back then she would've been at least as successful as she is now in hololive, if not even more

>>62164607
Most vtubers aren't in a position to not stream and make infinite money from retards.

>>62203335
lol
lmao
the facts are that barely anyone cared for her streaming without the dorito, hell, her fans barely care about her streaming now (because if they did they'd have long moved on) and she got mogged by people with actual independent careers
and if she ever graduates, her "irreplaceability" will be proven as faux as Coco's or Rushia's, who were entirely forgotten in a month or so by most Holofans aside from the fanart fags (despite being "legendary")

>>62203436
I guess you gave up on reading the messages you're replying to faggot, no problem I can paste them again
>the facts are that barely anyone cared for her streaming without the dorito,
Besides, that was before she blew the vtuber scene wide open by herself, she might've been a 3view streamer, but that was pretty fucking huge by en standards back then.
>if she ever graduates, her "irreplaceability" will be proven as faux as Coco's or Rushia's, who were entirely forgotten in a month or so by most Holofans aside from the fanart fags (despite being "legendary")
Everyone can instantly and instinctively tell that she's better than everyone else, which is why her antis are so mindbroken they are constantly grasping at straws to produce rrats even when she hasn't streamed for several months.

Again all those situations have never happened before, and you know (i can tell through the tears in your posts and in your inability to respond to the points made) that you know that what I said is true. You can seethe and cope all you want, but that is the truth nonetheless
>Meant to say ALL, literally every single person streaming as a vtuber right now and every single one that will stream in the en sphere will always be playing second fiddle to her, even if Gura graduates tomorrow thats how big the difference in quality is

>>62203242
Gura streamed consistently for over two years in Hololive before she started taking long breaks. That includes working two 3D lives.

Gura focused on viral content in her past account, which today that channel still gets 12k+ views daily. That was making her more money than streaming.

Gura not streaming > NijiEN streaming
Without streaming, Gura's channel still gets more views than NijiEN livers that are streaming....except for Vox, which is just slightly more.

>>62203559
if Gura graduates tomorrow everyone aside from the art fags will forgot a month in
the only way she recovers will be if she pops in VShojo because she has no ability to make it on her own
those are things that we seen happen to all "irreplaceable" vtubers and you're coping hard against reality

>>62203597
if views on viral shit matter then I think Ui is the greatest vtuber to have ever lived, and she doesn't have a company carrying her

>>62203656
Someone didn't get the memo that shorts don't make shit.

>>62203625
No point in replying since you are literally not reading shit and its clear you understand how wrong you are in your posts, so just going to tell you to either man up and stop coping or kys irl

>>62203677
>subs mattered until other vtubers started using shorts
>CCV mattered until Gura started being regularly mogged by even mid-tier JPs
>views mattered until others started releasing more viral songs and shortform content
wow, you argue like a deadbeat

>>62203724
>I'll argue against reality of what had repeatedly happened because my chuuba is a magical special princess
lmao, even Gura is smarter than you and that's why she desperately clings to the dorito despite supposedly being able to make it on her own due to her unique talent and irreplaceability

>>62203656
What the fuck are you on about, a youtuber that focuses on viral shit and goes viral is good, a vtuber that focuses on other content and has good views is good.
Gura's situation back then was different and she did well for herself independently (especially considering that the en scene was considerably smaller back then), when she went in hololive she started doing other types of content. This shit shouldn't be difficult to understand, regardless of when or which of her personas she did really well, to say otherwise is to just be ignoring reality

>>62203656
Gura's past channel has 20 vods with over a million views. That's way more than in Hololive.
Top one is at 30 million views...and it's not then one that went viral on TikTok. And unlike TikTok, she got paid well through ad revenue.

>>62203801
>desperately clings to the dorito
Despite not streaming a single time in several months, make it make sense retard chama. She just does whatever is the least effort because she is so far above her "competition" its meaningless to actually try

>>62203801
>CCV mattered until Gura started being regularly mogged by even mid-tier JPs
CCV never mattered. Especially for Gura with fans in different time zones. Unironically, she makes more ad revenue from people watching her VODs than live streams.

>>62203870
>she's not clinging to the dorito
>but she'll join every promotional stream, stream for every typical merch shill date (bday, anni) and religiously retweet every merch drop and promotion

>>62203559
>Besides, that was before she blew the vtuber scene wide open by herself, she might've been a 3view streamer, but that was pretty fucking huge by en standards back then.
She was a high 2view before Hololive, most people outside her discord didn't know she did anything other than meme videos.

>Everyone can instantly and instinctively tell that she's better than everyone else, which is why her antis are so mindbroken they are constantly grasping at straws to produce rrats even when she hasn't streamed for several months.
You're so high on your own copium that there's nothing to say.

>>62203926
Thought everyone knew that it's not Gura posting those promotions on Twitter

>>62203870
>she is so far above her "competition" its meaningless to actually try
It just means she's lazy and lacks ambition, Hololive as a whole would be much worse off if First Army rested on their laurels like her.

>>62204066
it's funny since Marine is currently objectively more popular and influential right now, yet she keeps grinding, releasing shit and keeping the scene lively, which really bares the "greatest to ever vtube" thing as bullshit it is

>>62204066
>hololive as a whole
LMAO why the fuck would i care about that in the slightest? Have you not read how she is by far the greatest vtuber beyond compare? Do you think I'm a lifeless retard like you that has infinite time in the world to waste on inferior people and products? Next you are going to say I should watch some other 3 view company for solidarity with the "larger" vtuber "community". I've tried enough, I know where Gura stands in the quality department, there's no need to keep wasting my time
Lacking ambition is also not a problem, because for truly great people (you wouldn't really know what that is I guess), success find you on your own, just like it did for Gura time and time again

>>62164607
Bijou is like a better Gura.

>>62164607
I agree, it's why Sana is my oshi now.

>>62204232
the only thing that finds Gura on its own is the bottle

>>62204356
>burps
Hurr durr i am a retard, aren't i cool, i am le trolling, so epic, you see when i have no point to make i just throw one liners then everyone knows im the gigachad, its clearly not because i know the other person is right that i am not addressing their points copes to death

The last 30 days without Gura streaming.

Gura gets more views daily while not streaming than a NijiEN that is streaming. More than twice as much for most. That's crazy.

>>62204532
I see I touched a nerve, guess that concludes it
don't worry chubmie, I'm sure your "greatest ever" shark will have another viral "hit" on the scale of her anime opening soon, kek

>>62204708
That opening is now played at the beginning of all her streams. Surprised it got that much. Must be from tourists.

But this is her latest of an old meme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMQ4P-vI3JI
3.3 million views in a month.

>>62204708
Retard can't even spell anymore, guess this conversation is really over.
Anyway, hope that you can stop coping some day, bottling up your feelings like that isn't really healthy for you

This time they have gone too far!!

>>62204848
you mean what Miko got in a week, lmao
so much for the greatest most special vtuber

>>62203170
>Plus, you can't convince me that if she actually tried back then, she could've had a similar level of success through streams on her solo persona, she just couldn't be bothered, which tends to be her main problem really

Gura is the hare; blessed with good natural abilities and luck which are ruined by idleness.
First Army is the tortoise; despite their slow start, their sobriety, zeal and perseverance allowed them to prevail over indolence.

>>62204972
Obviously can't compare Gura not streaming with Miko. Are you stupid?
Just showing that outside of Hololive, Gura not streaming still gets over double the views than most all of them. Many don't understand how popular her channel is.

>>62204972
HoloJP is on a different level.
But when Gura tries, she can hang with the best of them. She got in the top ten while Advent was overlapping her.
Oh, I don't see Miko there. Just kidding. There should never be Holo vs Holo.

>>62205040
>Gura is the best vtuber if you ignore everyone better than her

>>62205287
She's not the best. Always will be someone better. Just give it time. Best in EN for now.

>>62205256
who are those two first girls? never saw them

>>62205321
names are underneath
Though you should know the second one.

>>62205287
>>62205318
>>62204972
Every single post so far that mentions her being the best vtuber specifies EN vtuber, just because you are blind or haven't developed object permanence yet doesn't mean other anons haven't said it.
Also another retard is coping again that someone better might show up in EN later. You should definitely kill yourself immediately, how many years are you going to cope about this, she is the best EN period, no one can even match up, and unless she clones herself, no one will achieve the same level of success
even when she graduates, future en vtubers will be compared to her, this is your fate, this is her legacy, this is inevitable

>>62164607

>>62164607
if they were vtuber culture would be over.

>>62205462
when she graduates she's gonna be forgotten like anyone else who let go of the dorito and if she resurfaces anywhere else, half of the fags like you will unite in saying how trash she became despite her content not changing at all

>>62205747
Outside of Hololive the filter will be removed. Going back to her old self would make her more popular....without the drinking.

>>62205747
You feel it in your bones that she will be different which is why you can't stop posting, so to that i say: Cope and seethe

>>62205812
>Outside of Hololive the filter will be removed. Going back to her old self would make her more popular
Cocofags be like "muh content freedom"

>>62205996
We are talking about Gura here. Has the most fans that don't go by brand loyalty. Followed her before Holo and will after.
Chumbuds only watch Gura is a meme.

>>62205462
Its funny because she's only relevant in EN due to western audiences only wanting MEMES and shitty pop culture references
japs love kiara,bae, the ids and Fauna because they are good streamers that grind and also do idol stuff.
Kronii and gura are beloved due to their design and how japs think their voice sounds cute, but aside from that they are ghosts.
If gura ever graduates, half of her fans will inmediatly turn to the next "memelord" and the other half will eventually grift to other pandering vtubers. truly a castle made of sand
Also
>MUH NUMBERS
if your made up metrics mattered, Channels that get autosubs like VEVO or T-series would be the absolute top sharks of youtube

You’re right, V-Tubing was mistake and streamers should be like Gura and just not stream and let the medium die

>>62206132
yeah, they watch "Gura"
how many of these bitches do have to flop on their (real) face before people like you understand that if they didn't make it as indies before, they will not make it as indies after

>>62206240
Did you know that Gura had more subscribers than any in Hololive before she joined?

>>62199739
HER went viral multiple times, like big time viral, it even reached the US elections, she was no normal small time chuuba.

>>62206160
>only relevant due to [headcannon]
>Gura is beloved due to [headcannon]
yaaaaaaaaaawn
Facts of the matter is that she is more popular than any EN in japan despite not speaking japanese when there are several that do speak japanese, stream in better times for them, and specifically pander to them

you are just wasting your time, this is a solved argument, the facts speak for themselves that she is truly something special and above the rest, if you personally don't like her it's fine you don't need to cope, it's fine to be a bit odd

>>62206274
bro, are you a cuckbeat?
"damn she has so many subs and so many views, she's super extra popular! wait, no, stop with the CCV-ACK"

>>62206570
was a reply that she was nobody before, which is totally false.
Gura will do well outside of Hololive without a doubt. I can see her with Nyanners, Belle Delphine, Kson, etc. She already had connections before Hololive.
As Nyanners said, Gura is not dumb.

>>62203050
If she streamed for 3 more years she would be a 4view too. Then again - Myth and Gura were the factors that made EN vtubers big. Without them maybe a couple indies at all would be low 4views now, and without Holo around.

>>62206548
you can make up all the narratives in your head anon.
The fact is that gura is irrelevant as anything except a clip machine and as a mascot, which is why everyone loves her.
No one loves her personality because under lolmao mems and brand deals, she's just a girl that needs alcohol to function
>b-but i love her!
yes chumbud, you are definitely normal and not mentally ill enough that you had to split up your threads

>>62206746
Belle Delphine would be a great collab, certainly one of the ways of staying relevant with as little drive as her is opening her legs

>>62206905
Sound like an Only fans connoisseur.

Gura will just make meme songs for her.

>>62206853
>narratives in your head
>refuses to acknowledge numbers

>>62206746
bro, you just continue arguing like a cuckbeat, but the truth is that anyone that has the grit and talent to make it as independent just does, if you drop out of the game despite being viral, if you stream to 70 people despite having millions views, you're just not it as a streamer
certainly not greatest ever material

>>62207040
Gura has shown many times already that when she returns, so does her fans. Chumbuds are the definition of loyalty.

>>62206746
Gura won't do well, because she wouldn't suddenly become a streaming monster only because she had to go indie. She is fine being lazy with passive income right now, who wouldn't be. She clearly has no drive and ambition to do much else.

>>62207150
I don't know. Gura built three successful channels from scratch. She had more ambition in her teens than you or most ever had.
If look on Amazon Prime, can see her early content on there.

>>62207150
Gura was almost a host of children show, before the deal fell through and got cancelled.

>>62164607
Nah man, we want different kinds of chuubas, variation is good in entertainment

>>62207246
yeah, and Mori almost had a music career before that terrible Hololive deal happened and robbed her from her accomplishments
be real my nigger and just face reality, Gura got carried by memes and the western Holo clips boom, but if she ever dips and tried to go indie, she'll end like Kson, scrambling to VShojo for an ounce of previous relevance, because in the end she ain't as special as you tell yourself

>>62207135
yeah, me, no matter where she goes I'll follow

>>62207380
She would be like Rushia but without menhera - with audience still following her around, but not as big as when with Hololive.

>>62207380
I'm just saying Gura is still popular. And it hasn't waned with her absences. You seen it with you own eyes. Don't refute it.

>All the Gura simps' arguments are just /#/ niggatry
lolmao

>>62207464
She'll become more popular.
Gura graduating would shake the EN world.
Gura knows her worth. She refused to do a live stream during her audition nor did she sing and still got hired.

>>62207656
man, Cover should've see it coming that she'd refuse to do her job

>>62207825
Do you have any idea how much money they made off of Gura?

>>62207835
And continue to make, even without her streaming. They hit the mother lode.

>>62206274
Almost all of her subscribers came for her meme song videos, very few even knew she streamed.

>>62207434
You don't have to worry about that, she won't go anywhere else because she has no reason to.

>>62206132
>Chumbuds only watch Gura is a meme.
>>62207135

>>62207991
And?

You are confused in thinking that Gura's primary goal was to be a streamer, over content creation.

Gura spending thousands and her own time on animations, 3D Lives, and other content should be a hint.

>>62198775
>depressed and alcoholic
you know what, that will actually be an awesome vtuber, but gura didnt even stream and blue dorito are not going to let her do that kind of content, so its rip regardless.

>>62207634
>say that they like gura for her personality
>get some schizo headcannon shit in reply
>because of that, replies with hard number facts that are impossible to refute
>roru rumao number faggotry
Faggot

>>62208331
What personality?

>>62208932
>get some random schizo headcannon shit in reply