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Did she really get affected by the "not your friend" yab?

>> No.62937109

>>62936993
She was talking to everyone except me, so no.

>> No.62937292

>>62936993
But she IS my friend? This sounds like a you problem.

>> No.62937301

>>62936993
if (you) would call that a yab. didn't affect my enjoyment of her.

>> No.62937367

slightly
it was the first time she was like the other girls

>> No.62937599

>>62936993
In terms of numbers? No.
In terms of her fanatical following? No.
She just got a handful of mindbroken SEA antis here.
And it wasn't even a yab. It was the moment she truly opened up to people.

>> No.62937636

Wasn't it nijitroons that were spazzing out the most about it? Istg, some of these girls wouldn't be nearly as relevant as they are if it weren't for the fact that they live rent free in niji/phase/vshojo/2view heads.

>> No.62938130

>>62937636
This is always the case. /vt/ unwritten rule #1 is: every non-general catalogue thread is a falseflag or a bad faith bait thread.

>> No.62938175

>>62936993
She earns less money now but her viewership didn't really drop. Wasn't a big impact at all and she's still at the top in EN, even outperforming Fuwamoco without a skill or gimmick which is impressive.

>> No.62938470

>>62938175
>She earns less money now
This is factually untrue.

>> No.62938545

Fauna is my friend even if she doesn't know me. It doesn't change my enjoyment of her content at all.
Whoever sent that superchat needed to GSH and got told in the most caring way possible.

>> No.62938655

>>62938175
>even outperforming Fuwamoco
Doubt

>> No.62938907

All of Council has been on a decline this year, Fauna's retarded friend rant only accelerated her demise. People don't like it when women who rp as anime girls break kayfabe

>> No.62938935

>>62936993
Did she? No.
Did SEAschizos, who proceeded to shit up the catalog to try and force a yab where there wasn't even a semblance of one? You tell me.

She literally didn't even mean anything they were saying she was. All it was was a literal mixing up of words, Jesus. I hate SEAfaggots so much.

>> No.62938977

>>62938655
>The twins are literally beating out every other Holo EN member in terms of streaming frequency, ccv, and superchats

>> No.62939004

>>62938175
I like Fauna better than the baus and thats all that matters.

>> No.62939027

>>62936993
???? we are freinds though?

>> No.62939126

>>62938655
It's hard to measure.
FWMC karaoke will get much bigger numbers compared to Fauna karaoke.
FWMC Mornings get good numbers but it's a completely different, short format.
FWMC gaming streams on the other hand mostly greatly underperform.
At the end of the day their average is very similar.

>> No.62939134

>>62936993
It was only a yab in the minds of people whose opinions objectively don't matter.

>> No.62939283

I honestly dropped Fauna after it, like even if she still tows the gfe line and shit its just too late now. Someone like Irys or the twins are a much better option

>> No.62939400

>>62939283
>holo vs holo
Least obvious falseflag

>> No.62939515

>>62939400
Sorry but I'm not a DD, I only care about Holo girls that actually care about their fans and the experience themselves

>> No.62939538
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62939538

>>62936993
>>62939283
Heh. Nearly a full year of mindbreak, love to see it.

>> No.62939570

>>62939283
>Fauna
>anything GFE ever
lmao ok

>> No.62939741

>>62939538
If someone like Mumei or Fauna wanted to mindbreak me, i'd welcome it. But they didn't do that because they cannot even maintain kayfabe

>> No.62939821 [DELETED] 

>>62939570
>Intimate ASMR more than any other member
>relationship merch
>embraces the mommy persona
Yeah, totally against GFE sapcuck

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62939856

>>62936993
Could you even imagine FWMC saying that to their Ruffians? I can't.

>> No.62940016

>>62939856
Because the twins at least understand their role and what they are, Fauna couldn't even maintain the illusion which is literally what people are there for. Imagine watching some slice of life cgdct anime and the girls just spend 10+ minutes lecturing about boundaries and shit

>> No.62940085

>>62939821
>sapcuck
There we go, you couldn't resist.

>> No.62940223

>>62940085
What else would you call people who still flock to someone like that who completely shit on them

>> No.62940288

>>62940223
What else would you call someone as mindbroken as you?

>> No.62940308 [DELETED] 

>>62938935
>Oshi does a live BBC celebration thread
>FUCKING SEASCHIZOS

>> No.62940457 [DELETED] 

>>62940308
kill yourself and stream it from manila you flip

>> No.62940474

>>62940308
>Live BBC celebration
Stretched further than your ass, faggot.

>> No.62940585

>>62940288
An actual sane fan who doesn't just accept being shit on by his ex-oshi?

>> No.62941554

>>62940585
>sane
>thinks vtubers are his friends
pick one

>> No.62941680

>>62939538
Yet you bump every one, multiple times. You live for these threads.

>> No.62941795 [DELETED] 

cuckling can cope all they want but the fact remains they got shitted and went crawling back
>As "Fauna" and "saplings", we cannot be friends, or, we should not be friends
>I think I try to be myself on stream but you know, if we were friends we might have disagreements, who knows
>there might be things that you would be like, like maybe, the fact that I made 10 servings of curries and you don't eat leftovers is irreconcilable
>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know
>I think that's best, because I don't want to bring your guys moods down, by showing you, like, a non positive side of me, you know. But I think for friends its important to open up, show them more of you if you want to be really close
>Anyway there's my deep talk, I answered it as honestly as I could, I am happy to be here, and entertain you guys and hang out and its fun
>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

>> No.62941876

>>62941554
I never said they were my friends, but it kind of comes with the job to not talk about that type of shit when the person is rp'ing as an anime woman with an exaggerated voice and mannerisms for entertainment

>> No.62941971 [DELETED] 

>>62941795
>Sapcucks will defend this

>> No.62942148

>>62936993
kek youre still trying to push that, phoneposter?

>> No.62942247

>>62941876
Seething about it still makes you a schizo

>> No.62942800

>>62941876
Dang, you really like to just keep things as fake as possible. You would accept the biggest money whore as long as she keeps lying to you that you are close, but you are repulsed at the little sight of honesty or common sense. Truly baffling.

>> No.62943000

>>62941795
KEK she's disgusted by them

>> No.62943114

>>62942800
>Implying that the entire industry itself isn't sold on a fake reality
You people are what ruined vtubers, they were never meant to be "real" but just another escape.

>> No.62943270

>>62943114
Is SEA really such a hellscape that escapism is your only hope left?

>> No.62943407

>>62943270
kek

>> No.62943470

>>62943114
>can only 'escape' when literally every single one of his schizo desires is catered to
congratulations on demonstrating why she was right to say this

>> No.62943511

>>62936993
There was no fucking yab. Only SEA monkeys like you were trying to force one out of nothing

>> No.62943542

>>62936993
>yab
You're still trying to force this shit?

>> No.62943573 [DELETED] 

>>62943270
>Everything is SEA's fault
This is what the industry was like before it took off in EN, vtubers and their fans understood what it meant to be a vtuber. JP vtubers and their fans still do, but EN fucks completely distorted what made vtubing special by just making it no different than regular flesh streamers. This mentality is ruining entertainment "oh no your poor escapism" is what is killing gaming, movies, etc because people can't separate reality from fiction. Vtubers are not meant to present reality but a fictionalized setting where an anime girls coddles her audience and doesn't lecture them like a typical western whore

>> No.62943674

>>62943470
>Can only escape when reality is not brought up
Uh yeah, that's literally the point of escapism not being reminded of reality. Why do you think people play games or do anything else like that? She has no "right" to anything you dumbfuck, she has the privilege of being in the top vtuber company and should respect the rules and expectations which comes with it. Fucking newfaggot

>> No.62943749

>>62943573
>This is what the industry was like before it took off in EN
Wrong, this is a narrative made up by people who joined vtubing late

>> No.62943787

It didn't really affect her but it didn't do her any favours either
I got over it and moved on but I don't watch her anymore

>> No.62943839
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62943839

>>62943573
I don't mind escapism, but man, you really look hopeless. Like I kinda understand, I just can no longer sympathize when you turn into such ugly, hateful person, shitposting on that topic every day for months instead of moving on to someone else.

>> No.62943857

>>62943674
Funny how I'm able to enjoy some escapist fun just fine without turning into a seething lunatic the instant someone reminds me that we're entertainer & audience rather than friends.This sounds like a you problem, anon.

>> No.62943945

>>62943573
Posting delusional schizo shit doesn't really do much to deflect the accusations of being a delusional schizo

>> No.62943947

>>62943749
>This is what people who joined vtubing late believe
Yeah so you retards, please enlighten me about how Kizuna Ai and those old vtubers presented a picture of reality

>> No.62944025

>>62943839
You people are the ones ruining the industry, sorry that I don't just shut up and accept the shit that EN has wrought

>> No.62944055

>>62936993
It wasn't a yab, much less on context, lol.

Also that picture is damn adorable.

>> No.62944057

>>62943573
lets not even point out the fact you outed yourself as SEA last time in your most humiliating blunder i guess.

>> No.62944069

>>62943674
>respect the rules
theres rules about escapism?

>> No.62944092

>>62943857
Ah yes because I love pandering in my entertainment, go watch the new Marvels movie you fucking cuck

>> No.62944103

>>62944025
Literally nothing has changed beyond your delusions being challenged.

>> No.62944161

>>62943945
>The truth is delusional schizo shit
Sorry that you people don't want to accept the actual truth of what vtubing was originally. Fucking normies ruining yet another hobby

>> No.62944234

>>62944161
>entire thread shitting on you faster than you can falseflag
not your finest moment jakartan

>> No.62944249 [DELETED] 

>>62944057
I'm a white European but ok bud, nice analysis. Not everyone who disagrees with your lunatic takes is brown you racist piece of shit

>> No.62944317

>>62944069
>What rules
Uh rules like not breaking kayfabe and keeping reality separate from fiction

>> No.62944344

>>62943573
This mentality is exactly why real women find you repulsive and you have to settle for anime grifters conning you with fake affection, anon. Don't you realize you're in a self destructive feedback loop?

>> No.62944353

>>62944092
>pandering
Anon, you're literally the one who wants vtubers to pander to your fantasies.

>> No.62944363

>>62944249
>>62944317
>1 minute melty posting
oh i am laffin

>> No.62944385

>>62944103
>Nothing has changed
Nice job outting yourself as a newfag who never experienced vtubers prior to 2020

>> No.62944392

>>62944161
I’m on your side anon, fuck those faggots. Don’t feed the friendless sappy saplings. They stalk anyone that criticises her /here/. It’s really weird as if they keep a log of everything you’ve ever said and they always assume it’s the same person lmao.

>> No.62944402

>>62944317
見せて

>> No.62944451

>>62944234
Not my fault you fucks are circle-jerking each other about watching reality tv lite but with anime women

>> No.62944467

>>62944092
>because I love pandering in my entertainment
...
Actually yes, that's exactly what you are telling us by demanding every vtuber to keep strict kayfabe and giving you escapism GFE content.

>> No.62944481

>>62944161
*your truth is delusional schizo shit.
That's literally what a delusion is, after all. Self-serving nonsense you've convinced yourself is the truth to feel better about yourself.

>> No.62944502

>>62944344
So what does that make you then, that's what I thought fucking pathetic ass

>> No.62944565

>>62943947
I can just tell you never watched them, even claiming jp vtubers keep up kayfabe massively retarded

>> No.62944566

>>62944385
I'm sure you BELIEVED that about vtubers back then, but it doesn't mean you were actually correct in said belief.

>> No.62944567

many people are gay

>> No.62944568

>>62944502
He is losing it.

>> No.62944571

>>62944353
>Pandering is when the anime woman does her job right
ok retard

>> No.62944625

unironically why do saplings still respond to these bait/anti threads, i swear they're all the exact same every time, rehashed posts, probably rehashed posters too
i could probably use chatgpt to autogenerate this thread
are you really that insecure or what just ignore the shitposters and stop feeding them

>> No.62944633

>>62943839
>>62943945
>>62944057
>>62944069
>>62944234
>>62944344
>>62944363
>1 minute melty posting

>> No.62944681

>>62941795
I genuinely see no problem with this. This isn't even like a "we're just strangers and our relationship ends where your money does", it's a "we both want to put on our best faces instead of show our ugly sides and you shouldn't neglect yourself and trash your dark parts to appeal to my perceived best face"

>> No.62944701

>>62944467
Its not pandering when its literally what vtubing was originally meant to be, pandering implies that something is being done outside the norm. You people literally have 0 idea what you are even arguing about, just throwing back my own argument because you cannot think for yourselves

>> No.62944719

>>62944625
honestly i want to see him melt down again
>>61487743
>>61488663
he thinks he's changing peoples minds and/or trolling, but he sadly doesn't realise he's the only person thats ever thought it was a "yab". it's the funniest shit to me

>> No.62944738

>>62944571
Anon what you want is literally pandering. You want vtubers to spoon-feed you a specific fantasy and seethe at the fact that other people don't need to be spoon-fed.

>> No.62944780 [DELETED] 

>>62944481
Once again, you people are delusional for thinking that vtubers were just meant to be regular streamers but with anime women. Look at how the vast majority of EN vtubers act compared to JP, it is literally an entirely different industry. But I won't expect saplings who are used to getting cucked to understand

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62944798

>>62944633
womp womp

>> No.62944801

>>62944701
You don't even know the definition of the word 'pandering'

>> No.62944841

>>62944565
>This is your brain being a clip-only fag

>> No.62944842

>>62944719
>intentionally feeding a shitposter because you're bored
jesus christ no wonder these garbage threads keep getting replies
have fun im out

>> No.62944857

>>62944798
don't point that out, my melty posting comment made him snap as he realised he was seething on cooldown kek

>> No.62944922

>>62944625
Because saplings are the most insecure fanbase, the sapling posting was never ironic it was always just a pathetic cry for help. They will literally never listen to the truth because "uwu mommy fauna". Most fucking pathetic EN fanbase

>> No.62944962

>>62944625
I'm not even a sapling, I just have a bad habit of jumping into catalog threads to make fun of people for their shit takes. They deserve the mockery but you're right that it's not particularly productive.

>> No.62944983

>>62944719
Saplings try not to feed into trolls challenge, literally impossible

>> No.62945047

>>62944738
Again, you are completely wrong about what vtubing was meant to be. Sorry that you only got into it once it went mainstream I guess

>> No.62945059

>>62944625
I barely even watch hololive but it's rare to find an unironic schizo this easy to provoke. I can put minimum effort into a post and get a full seethe reply.

>> No.62945100

>>62944983
hooman, i just like crowd controlling him so he gets contained to one thread rather than shitting up the entire board. it's more productive than you realise. he's my little pet who cant help losing every time he seethes impotently

>> No.62945120 [DELETED] 

>>62944962
>shit takes
Coming from a fucking sapcuck lmao
You get em tiger, i'm sure Fauna appreciates you defending her on 4chan

>> No.62945132

>>62944625
Saplings are the easiest fanbase to bait on this board.
You just need to say "Fauna isn't your friend" and this thread is the result.

>> No.62945149

>>62945047
Repeating something over and over doesn't necessarily make it true, anon.

>> No.62945184

>>62945059
>I-t-t-t's not me who's being provoked
>As I reply on cool down to the same person because he dared mock Fauna

>> No.62945210

anon is kind of right from my perspective, idk what y'all are talking about

>> No.62945230

>>62945120
Like I said, I'm not even a sapling, I just like making fun of people I find pathetic, and OP was an easy target.

>> No.62945267

>>62945100
Do you people even hear how pathetic you sound?
>I'm essentially doing the work of a janitor, even tho I'm not one
how sad

>> No.62945325

>>62945149
Can say the same to you bro, vtubing is not your personal reality show

>> No.62945357

>>62945267
laughing at you will never not be funny, i know how upset you get. i mean look, you're now focused on defending yourself and attacking random anons than sticking to your game plan. you're laughably predictable kid

>> No.62945367

>>62945132
Like OP wouldn't samefag the thread until bump limit or eating a spam ban like every other time this has happened for the past 8 months.

>> No.62945400 [DELETED] 

>>62945230
>Not even a sapling
You know that makes you even more pathetic right? That you are going this schizo because someone dared to call out Fauna and how vtubing is not what you actually think it is? Let me guess, a nijinigger who thinks they are any level of entertainment

>> No.62945415

>>62945210
Agreed. The Saplings are looking bad and acting like they’re in total control and playing around when that anon is right. There’s a reason only Fauna has ever said it explicitly. Literally no other EN has lectured their fans on their parasocial connection with them. Bae got close.

>> No.62945433

>>62945325
I don't treat it as such, I just watch cute anime girls I find entertaining without being a seething, mindbroken mess about it.

>> No.62945469

>>62945357
>>62945267
I don't even have to say anything else at this point, what you people say just reinforces how pathetic you are

>> No.62945506

>>62945400
>going this schizo
Agreeing with Fauna that she's not your friend is the opposite of being a schizo, it's an objectively sane opinion.

>> No.62945534

>>62945469
can you answer how pathetic someone is that's seethed daily for 9 months about something only they care about because of how much they hate a particular fanbase? love to hear your thoughts

>> No.62945550

>>62945415
Because they literally have no proper refute, it always just devolves into "yeah well vtubers aren't your personal fiction" or whatever other nonsense

>> No.62945591

>>62936993
No. I'm not her friend but her boyfriend. So it's good for me.

>> No.62945604

>>62945415
>>62945550
look ma he's samefagging again

>> No.62945607

>>62945433
Well clearly you do if you think that vtubers are meant to bring reality and shit into their streams, rather than just stick to playing a character. But who am I kidding, you just watch clips and that's it

>> No.62945680

>>62945550
>"yeah well vtubers aren't your personal fiction" or whatever other nonsense
>nonsense
That's objectively true, though

>> No.62945694

>>62945506
It literally has nothing to do with agreeing with her or not, stop trying to derail the conversation because you lost. It was always the fact that she even brought it up in the first place to rant about because she got baited by a troll donation. No one else in EN aside from Kronii has been this retarded

>> No.62945755

>>62945534
Ok who's more pathetic, someone "seething for 9 months" (lmao implying its just 1 person this is the first time ive commented about the situation) or people like you who constantly get baited into replying because nobody can dare criticize Fauna and her fuckup

>> No.62945801

>>62945607
lmao the only response you have left at this point is to make shit up I didn't even say

>> No.62945825

>>62945755
the person seething for 9 months obviously, youre not trying to defend yourself are you? grim

>> No.62945831

>>62945680
Except they literally are dumbfuck, if you want streamers who aren't presenting a fake reality then go watch fleshstreamers

>> No.62945877

>>62945694
>It literally has nothing to do with agreeing with her or not
We were talking about why I'm posting here in the first place, and that's literally my reason. I think she was right to say it and OP deserves to hear it.

>> No.62945893

>>62945801
I literally said what you brought up, maybe learn some reading comprehension

>> No.62945951

>>62945825
Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him
You
>Oh its the fool, not the braindead sheep who doesn't know any better and follows him everywhere

>> No.62945992

>>62945831
My personal fiction is different (and clearly much more enjoyable) than your personal fiction, unfortunately.

>> No.62946042

>>62945951
i already answered, the seething schizo whos been mindbroken for 9 months. you okay jakartan?

>> No.62946059

>>62945877
>She was right to say it
She's a anime streamer, she was right to maintain her character and not bring a rant of reality about boundaries into discussion. People don't need to be fucking babied, nobody actually thinks that Fauna is their friend. Everyone is in on the rp of her just being a mommy and that's it, trying to make it anything more or grounding people to reality just kills the mood that SHE HERSELF set

>> No.62946105

>>62945893
I'm sure you believe that, anon. That doesn't make it true.
I never said anything about 'bringing reality into their streams', I just said that I'm able to watch cute anime girls stream without turning into a seething mess the moment they say something I don't like.

>> No.62946113

>>62946042
Well its ok to be wrong, the mentally ill usually aren't able to recognize their own disability by themselves

>> No.62946164

>>62946059
>People don't need to be fucking babied
I do because she's my mother. I appreciated the maternal advice and took it to heart.

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62946191

>>62946113
agreed, just look at picrel to really show your shame
>>62946059
>>62946113
>1 min melty, im totally a new anon btw kek

>> No.62946231

>>62946105
>"I never said this"
>literally half the thread is you people claiming that vtubers aren't "your personal fantasy" and are "real"

>> No.62946299

>>62946164
Ok well if Fauna made it into an ironic mommy baby talk thing then I would have found it hot and jerked off, but she didn't

>> No.62946352

>>62946105
Vtubers make missteps all the time--ones that break illusion about being models and such, even fwmc mentioning irl male figures, but they are rightly ignored. The only reason this one made people seethe so hard is it struck the nail on the head and they got personally offended for the better part of a year.

>> No.62946362

>>62946191
>Leaving out the rest of you fucks who are samefagging

>> No.62946419

I’m convinced this thread is Bard and GPT arguing with each other.

>> No.62946435

Jesus is it really this easy to rile up saplings? No wonder Fauna needs to take "breaks" every once in a while to get away

>> No.62946457

>>62946231
>has to lump me in with other anons in the thread
>doesn't change the fact I never said that shit
jesus christ I actually feel sorry for you at this point

>> No.62946560

Anon, who would you actually recommend for 'escapism' then? Preferably english vtubers

>> No.62946570

>>62946457
its one dude that doesnt realise there is more than one person talking to him, just laugh from a distance. hes snapping

>> No.62946840

>>62946457
I feel bad for you people getting so triggered by something mundane as someone thinking that what Fauna did was wrong lmao

>> No.62946880

>>62936993
It was the least "yab" thing of all time. Saplings are just needy

>> No.62946919

>>62946560
Is this really a question? Fuwamoco were literally built for that

>> No.62947004

>>62946457
>>62946570
nice samefagging yourself, fucking 1 minute posts btw

>> No.62947047

>>62936993
>>62937599
it was obviously a mistake, pragmatically, but not that major.

>> No.62947066

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKJqxBfyfwc
New yab for the next year

>> No.62947136

>>62936993
I am her lover

>> No.62947141

>>62937599
you don't want to open up too much, that was part of the point.

>> No.62947168

>>62938907
Post proof or show tits

>> No.62947197

>>62936993
No, because anyone with half a brain knows what she meant when she said it.

>> No.62947484

>>62936993
yes, I used to watch her every day, I no longer watch her at all. she lost a sub, a member, a merch-buyer, and I know I'm not the only one. it shouldn't have been that big a yab, logically I know this, but when someone spends two fucking years pretending they're your friend to actually come right out and say *we're not friends, we shouldn't be friends, we'll never be friends* that just fucking hurts. Like no shit, everyone knows that already but you don't just rub their faces in it. Especially someone like Fauna, who has such an expertly crafted persona, stays out of trouble, goes out of her way to never upset anyone or even have an opinion on things. That was some Kronii or Ollie-tier bullshit, and I just didn't want to watch her anymore, regardless of how harmless it was.

>> No.62947594

>>62947484
> TLDR: hes very mentally ill and spends hours seething about some green woman.
Lmaoooo

>> No.62947813

>>62941795
So even now I don't understand.
If someone was invested in the parasocial relationship enough to care about what she said here, she actually got more parasocial here and talked about her darker emotions and even went as far as to say that she genuinely wants her fans to love themselves and not neglect themselves. That should be a positive, then, as she basically opened up even more about her own insecurities which she said was important in relationships and confirmed that she cares about her fans.
If someone isn't invested in the parasocial relationship, then they literally shouldn't care because the statement holds no value to them coming from someone they don't care about during a superchat reading segment that they shouldn't care about and is never brought up again. Which is more confusing because I keep seeing people say "i already know that i don't need her to tell me I just want a pure fantasy and acted character"
You would need to simultaneously:
1. Have no emotional investment in Fauna and the absolute minimum parasociality, as this was her getting closer to her fans.
2. Want VTubing to be purely live-animated anime, rather than a balance of the ideals of anime characters and the depth of real people.
3. Be aware of the nature of the relationship between a VTuber and their fans and accept that as reality.
4. Despite being minimally parasocial, watch her more intimate streams like SC readings which you literally should have no reason to do if you're only interested in the fantasy.
5. Find a statement that you have stated you accept as reality to be devastatingly harmful to your mental perception to hear.
6. Despite no change in content before or after that moment, consider the entire product completely and retroactively destroyed.
7. Despite 1, 3, and 6, somehow still be talking about it almost an entire year later rather than moving on.
It just seems weird.

>> No.62947873

>>62946880
if it had been one of the usual hated schizos, the board would have melted down. imagine if Michael Cat, Mori, Enna etc said it. Nuclear heat. Fauna had such a buffer of general positivity around her that it cushioned the blow considerably.

>> No.62947997

>149 posts
>39 IPs

nice thread

>> No.62948116

>>62947813
no one wants someone they like to take a shit on them, even if it's the truth. you know your favorite actor, musician, etc isn't your friend, obviously. but if they go out of their way to say you, yes you!, are not my friend, and never will be, to your face...how does that not sting and change your perception of them?

>> No.62948144

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8M8I2SYEiA

Imagine watching a TV show (Fauna), and in the after-credits talk (SC reading), the actor gives some random PSA (obvious statement) and literally nothing changes in the content of the show itself following that moment. And then you go "OMG why would Mario do this! I already knew drugs were bad! I'm NEVER watching Mario again!" and you spend every single day following that episode telling everyone you know about how much you never, ever, ever want to watch Mario again, for a full year.

>> No.62948284

>>62948116
This is exactly what i'm trying to say, she is not meant to be presented as a normal person. Bringing up reality or boundaries in any way is extremely off putting, I have no idea why some of these people think what she did was ok when even members like Bae have not gone that far

>> No.62948315

>>62947873
I mean based on what she said in >>62941795 she seemed to have been very kind and positive in her message. What part of this is disparaging her fans?

>> No.62948393

>>62948144
I mean yeah its retarded there, it was retarded when Adam Sandler was Batman and did a commercial for the US military bonds or some shit

>> No.62948499

>>62948284
not sure why it's so hard for some anons to understand. It was just rude, off-putting, and out of character for her. Especially her, more than any other EN girl, she tries to be as cuddly and harmless as possible, it was just so unexpected and unnecessary.

>> No.62948590

>>62936993
Idk, I don't check numbers. But I'm sure her actions made some mentally ill leave, and for that she is based. Man, I love Fauna.

>> No.62948619

>>62948393
And it would be completely insane to be fixated on it consistently for a year after it happened instead of moving on.

>> No.62948682

>>62948590
mentally-ill are the ones who throw money at anime girl merch, I'm sure her sales declined

>> No.62948710

>>62948499
>out of character
See this is why I have trouble believing you were even a stream watcher in the first place, because this wasn't even the first time she's given a tangent like that during SC readings. The literal only difference with this one is that it was spammed in the catalog because of Babski.

>> No.62948764

>>62948682
Clearly not these kinds of mentally-ill, since they're not the stream-watching parasocial sort who would paypig in the first place and would be happier that she opened up MORE to them.

>> No.62948865

>>62948619
I don't think it's a fixation, so much as that's now what people think of whenever she's brought up. It's unfortunately the most stand-out thing she's ever done, and an easy thing to hate her for. Like Kronii with her homo shit, Gura no streams, Bae's an idiot zoomer, etc

>> No.62948974

>>62948710
her weird tangents were usually positive, and maybe this was supposed to be as well. I'm sure it didn't come out the way she intended and she'd undo it if she could.

>> No.62948983

>>62948865
>so much as that's now what people think of whenever she's brought up
Except the only reason she's being brought up and this thread was made, completely unprompted, is to talk about it. You can't spin that when it's literally brought up apropos of nothing. That is the definition of a fixation.

>> No.62949046

>>62936993
Not really, she knows her game, she just took a week off, the "drama" died out and she just came back to stream like nothing happened.

>> No.62949116

>>62948974
See you're really, really not convincing that you actually watched her before this since this isn't even the first time she tangented about being a streamer. And beside that, what part of the message of >>62941795 isn't positive?

>> No.62949198

>>62948983
well yeah, there's an anti or just a bored shitposter who drops these now and then, that's different. I agree with you on that, definitely fixation. But I think for a lot of anons who don't watch her it's just become her claim to (in)fame(y).

>> No.62949360

>>62949116
the 4th wall streamer stuff was fine, specifying her fans will never be her friends is different. it's just a pot shot she didn't need to take, it was stupid to fall for that bait sc

>> No.62949389

>>62949198
>People on /vt/ constantly bring it up
>"This is what everyone thinks of when they think of Fauna."

Wow. How could this have happened?

>> No.62949473

>>62936993
Definitely not lmao,
I see her numbers are still the same even with the overlaps.
same with SCs, its still the same.

>> No.62949491

>>62949198
>for a lot of anons who don't watch her
Hmm.

>> No.62949513

>>62949389
very nice of you to think the inhabitants of that region are 'people', anon

>> No.62950276

>>62936993
Its good that she had a burst of honesty even though went a bit too far into lecture territory. Anyway instead of being dishonest she became a hypocrite because the way she positioned herself as a holo is incompatible with her 'honest' lecture

>> No.62950439 [DELETED] 

>>62944625
I don't think it's Saplings. Fauna has been streaming for the last 3 hours. It's one jakartanschizo that bumps all these threads and "defends" her. He's also the reason Fauna was doxxed and raided a few weeks ago.

>> No.62950751

>>62936993
it just pointed out the fact that she wants all the benefits of being an egirl and none of the drawbacks. depending on how much you've known her for you might be either surprised by that or not surprised at all
>I'm not your friend, I'm not your waifu, don't get parasocial on me, but also make sure to buy my merch, watch my streams, listen to my ASMR, and I'll read every single superchat that you send me and address you personally!
quintessential western egirl behavior really. if you're ok with that fine, but don't be surprised if some people jokingly call you a cuck, or a simp

>> No.62950972

>>62948144
that dumb fucking bitch had to bring reality into my saturday morning cartoons. I'll never buy anything from nintendo ever again.

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>> No.62951739

>>62936993
She had gotten some short term pushback but kept being parasocial with the saplings so it didn't matter in the end, just a pointless womanism

>> No.62951950

Fauna may not be my friend and ever will be but I know her enough to always know what game is going to play next week :D

>> No.62952537

>>62936993
She banned the guy who sent the supa. What do you think?

>> No.62952673

>>62936993
She's not my friend, she's my mom.

>> No.62952784

>>62952537
she banned a known schizo that her chat told her had shit on the other girls. it didnt bother her at all.

>> No.62952825

>>62936993
All the "people" complaining about it were already antis to begin with.

>> No.62952865

Fauna has been streaming for the last 3 and half hours. It's not Saplings. It's this schizo.
>>62951485
>>62950439

>> No.62952872

>>62952537
Babski... You're not that important...

>> No.62955976

>>62948284
>>62948499
>>62948710
"unprofessional" might be the way to describe it.

>> No.62961822

>>62937109
deserved

>> No.62963087

dont be silly. you probably wouldnt wanna be Fauna's friend because she's a vegan, she probably doesn't align with you politically, and all that other stuff. or she wouldn't wanna be friends with you either.

people do have a very skeptical view towards veganism which is 80% justified, but I still like Fauna. she's cute and funny.

>> No.62965917 [DELETED] 

retards

>> No.62966061

>>62939283
>Fauna GFE
>Fauna "we can't be friends"
Does that mean we can only be lovers?

>> No.62967272

>>62947484
Same. I know it’s stupid, but i can’t help how i feel. Swapped to Biboo and never looked back.

>> No.62968847

eww fauna

>> No.62970864

>>62967272
Yeah, you just can't put the cat back in the bag, all her being cute and playful just rings hollow after she says something like that. Luckily Fuwamoco will never do such a thing, it's like I traded 1 defective Fauna for 2 improved Faunas!

>> No.62972039

>>62936993
I haven't gotten into her because of it but I'm probably in a minority.

>> No.62972349

>>62967272
Same here. Advent was a godsend

>> No.62973593

>>62970864
NTA but it's very hard for me to watch her now. When she said what she said, I wasn't in tears or depressed or even that sad. But the mood definitely feels different and it's not really the same anymore.
Like you, I moved on and started watching someone else. I don't hate her but she's drawn the line in the sand. And that's okay.

>> No.62976032

>>62940016
This guy gets it. They are there for a specific role, one the twins get and Fauna doesn't despite being so good at her job. Another moment of Western women doing their thing.

Honestly I don't understand the mindset of people that throw a bunch of money at super chats, especially at big talents that get so many of them already. You are nearly instantly forgotten and your money doesn't matter to them. One of the upset saplings in the video comments in that stream said he felt like nothing but a consumer now, which is the reality of the relationship. Pay for membership if getting access to the member streams is important to you, buy merch since you get something tangible. Don't throw away your money being part of an after stream chore.

>> No.62976946

>>62947197
exactly; it's obvious, so it was unnecessary to say.

>> No.62977901

>>62976032
>Don't throw away your money being part of an after stream chore.
Except you just made that up. All Fauna essentially said is that saplings should take care of themselves and their friends first, as those relationships matter more in the grand scheme of things than watching a streamer.

That's one of the reasons I like her more than FuwaMoco. Fauna seems real and cares about her saplings, not in a parasocial sense, but in a general kindness sense. FWMC feel fake. Their "I want to protect the Wuffians smiles" is such a cliché anime phrase that doesn't feel genuine at all.

>> No.62979277

>>62977901
NTA but you're kinda right, but still, what she said felt like a kick in the balls, I don't know how to cope with this

>> No.62982952

>>62936993
yes

>> No.62984462
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62984462

I thought everyone knew fauna was completely fake, how was anyone surprised?

>> No.62985767

>>62984462
How does one become "real"?

>> No.62985833

>>62936993
like most "yabs" everyone outside /vt/ forgot about it like two days after it happened. People here just have an axe to grind. Makes twitter look like a church confessional

>> No.62985931

>>62985767
Being yourself

>> No.62985974
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62985974

>66 ips
>204+ replies
>samefagging this hard
eww

>> No.62989430

>>62985931
And Fauna's self is.. fake?
Circular logic.

>> No.62989489

>no fauna art
this thread is shit

>> No.62989792

>>62989430
There is nothing real about what she does as Fauna

>> No.62990684

>>62989792
Yes, again; why?

>> No.62991268

>>62936993
No matter how many times shitposters insist they dropped her, her CCV and SC numbers did not change in the slightest after it happened, so yes it literally did not affect her at all.

>> No.62992699

Does anyone else find it strange that almost all of these posters who had issue with what Fauna said only seem to post when the thread is on page 10? Why would they wait for the thread to be almost pruned to reply?

>> No.62993666

>>62936993
she's cute so it's ok

>> No.62994051

Man I love Fauna

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>>62989489

>> No.62994318

>>62936993
I wonder if this is the same guy saying this 50 times a day for the past 2 years or if it's some kid that Googles "what can me, a retard, get mad about today?(2 year old nothing burgers only please)" and then comes here to share what's new to him.

>> No.62999288 [DELETED] 

bump

>> No.63002309

>>62989792
I thought that was the point! Aren't people like you the retards constantly going on about "kayfabe"?

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>>62989489

>> No.63009671

Hellooooo Jakarta!

>> No.63012405

>sapling damage control

>> No.63012468

>>63012405
Who are you quoting?

>> No.63013511

>>62955976
>bumped from page 10
>>62961822
>bumped from page 10
>>62965917
>bumped from page 10
>>62967272
>bumped from page 10
>>62968847
>>62970864
>bumped from page 10
>>62972039
>bumped from page 10
>>62973593
>bumped from page 11
>>62976032
>bumped from page 10
>>62977901
>bumped from page 10
>>62979277
>bumped from page 10
>>62982952
>bumped from page 11
>>62984462
>bumped from page 10
>>62985767
>bumped from page 10
>>62989430
>bumped from page 10
>>62992699
>bumped from page 10
>>62993666
>bumped from page 10
>>62999288
>bumped from page 11
>>63002309
>bumped from page 10
>>63005896
>bumped from page 11
>>63009671
>bumped from page 11
>>63012405
>bumped from page 11
Hmm, totally different people and not a samefag using his phone to post.

>> No.63013703

>>63013511
What I don't get is why he isn't samefagging a conversation between himself like he usually does. Is it too much work or something? I guess he's busy chowing down on pagpag

>> No.63013825

>>63013511
remember its that dang moomposter and saplings bumping these threads, if it wasnt for them he'd just get bored!

>> No.63015468

>>62944625
>saplings
>intelligent
Pick one.

>> No.63015628

>>63015468
That's what you went with? You had nearly an hour to think of something to post and that's the best you could come up with?

>> No.63015728

>>63015628
kek
he's been at this for over 24 hours with no sleep, give him some slack man

>> No.63016164 [DELETED] 

>>63013511
You don't understand. He has to keep his Fauna anti thread going. It's all he has.

(Sage in all fields btw)

>> No.63018194

inb4 bump

>> No.63018389

>>63013511
retard

>> No.63018460

there it is lol

>> No.63018648

>>63018389
Hey, we're all here ready to talk, why wait until page 10? Lets just talk right now

>> No.63019347

>>63018648
just remember he's stayed up for over a day to keep this bumped at this point. no commitments in life except chowing down on the juiciest pagpag.
worth it as i can use >>63013511 for my archives next time he tries to blame saplings for bumping this shit, he's lost yet another falseflag argument kek

>> No.63023048

>>63013511
page ten lets go!

>> No.63023228

>>63023048
this is it! let's see what he comes up with. Dance sea monkey, dance

>> No.63023409

>>63013511
almost all of those make different arguments, retard.

>> No.63023576

>>63023409
>bumped from page 10 again
What does that have to do with anything? Samefagging retard.

>> No.63023671

>>63013511
This should be a bannable offense.

>> No.63023978

Is this a bot thread?

>> No.63024147 [DELETED] 

>>62936993
I don't think so. You can't seriously be a unicorn and oshi Fauna, by definition, so that group of people couldn't be upset because they don't exist. Just catalog shitposting.

>> No.63024659 [DELETED] 

>>63024147
>unicorn
>friend
What does unicorn even fucking mean anymore?

>> No.63024760 [DELETED] 

>>63024659
Unicorns can only see pure virgins.

>> No.63025721

>>63002309
No I fucking hate that word. My issue is that oshi acts like herself. doesn't lie, is parasocial with fans and then fauna comes along and claims they all think exactly like her, it's disgusting.

>> No.63027129

>>63023576
why would one guy go through all that effort if he just wanted to bump the thread? retard.

>> No.63029333

I have a really strange feeling someone with a belly full of pagpag is going to bump this thread. Couldn't tell you why.

>> No.63030041

>>63013511
Saplings are pathetic, holy shit.
>Nooo, it can’t possibly be ten people discussing how they left fauna, it has to be a samefag

>> No.63030123

>>63029333
>>63030041
kek

>> No.63030768

>>63030123
I’m russian and i just woke up. Taк чтo иди нaхyй дoлбoёбинa тyпopылaя. Пpидyмaли блядь кaкyютo жaкapтy, пиздoc, чтo yгoднo лишь бы мaмoчкy нe oбижaли. Изнacилoвaл бы вceх caплингoв бeз coжaлeний.

>> No.63031195

>>63030768
Don't worry, I totally believe you. I mean, you posted in Russian, so of course I believe you. I really don't think you eat pagpag; that stuff is literally eaten right out of the trash, not only is it no longer appetizing but it's completely unsanitary. You wouldn't do that, right?

>> No.63031513

>>63031195
O чeм, coбcтвeннo, и гoвopю. Дyшeвнoбoльнoй pacпeздaл cкopee пoдyмaeт чтo я юзaю пepeвoдчик чeм в тo, чтo нa этoй плaнeтe живёт бoльшe oднoгo нe пepeвapивaющeгo фayнy лyзepa.

>> No.63033038

>>62936993
her vacation will hurt more

>> No.63033669

What I don't get is how every poster in here all agreed to only post when the thread hit page 10. How would they all coordinate like that? I don't see anyone saying that was a thread rule. Am I missing something?
>>63033038
Hello there, do you have any insight into this curiosity? This is an interesting thread development and this is now more on topic than the OP. Please, tell the thread why you decided that page 10 was time to post this response. I expect at least 140 characters minimum.

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