/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63672851
2 on the left were innocent

>>63672991
Rosalyn did nothing wrong tho.

No one is innocent

Artia is debatable, but the rest were innocent. The real criminals was the management team who used the girls as chess pieces.

>>63673095
>Artia is debatable
DYRBI

>>63672851
100% of accounts ive seen paint Yogiri as innocent
90% Spade Echo
10% Doris
10% Civia
My understanding is that the main culprits were Artia and Rosalyn, Civia and Doris being given blame, just for being down for the Wolf Warrior watchalong which happened right around all of these.
Tho to my understanding Doris' current incarnation has been a terror to Yogiri's current, tho I only see heresay on that sparringly

>>63672851
They were all guilty of being chinese.

>>63673297
Spade Echo is from Hong Kong. Where did the 10% come from?

>>63672851
How popular were they compared to JP and ID at the time?

>>63673393
About even with ID1 I guess.

>>63673297
>Doris' current incarnation has been a terror to Yogiri's current, tho I only see heresay on that sparringly
Maybe because Yogiri is actually Taiwanese?

>>63672851
All are guilty of being Ch*nese.
Yogiri is least guilty due to being Taiwanese.
Artia is extremely guilty but is somehow manages to end up strangely sympathetic due to being literally retarded and the fact that she's even hated by Ch*nese nationalists for being a "banana" (yellow on the outside, white on the inside)

>>63673297
>a terror to Yogiri's current,
Who? I thought Yogiri said she wouldn't reincarnate.

>>63673323
Bae is Chinese too.

>>63672851
The only real confirmation that could be given was that Artia, Civia and Doris where aids. Yugiri and Spade Echo didn't do anything.

>>63674944
I sentence her to correction by rape

>>63672851
They were all innocent and turned out to be right. Cover sided with Coco because she brought in more money and Coco repaid them by leaving and joining the competition and going full time camwhore

>>63673393
Cintia was starting to get decent numbers on youtube with her wet kisses, Artia was the twitch holo

>>63676169
>Not mating press
Fuck, are you even trying?

>>63672851
>Now that the dust has settled
kys, I didn't read any further or look at your image, just stop fucking starting threads like this

>>63676868
Cintia who

>>63676838
Thanks for your input, CCPbro.

>>63673809
>Who? I thought Yogiri said she wouldn't reincarnate.
Yogiri had gone through two other channels, but very specifically avoided being associated with the other holoCN members unlike the others, who had originally tried to be their own indie group. The first one was in another company that got destroyed by not even joking, government intervention. The second channel was her just rebranding her utaite PL account as an indie vtuber, but she disappeared from the internet because she had been going through a depressive episode brought on by the comments that followed her across all channels basically saying "Yeah, I never actually cared for you, guess it was just the holo branding that made me a fan, oh well!" and it ultimately reached it's worst when some dude started making AI covers with her voice as "AI Yogiri" and acting like he was doing a service by making those covers. She got really upset by that and has been radio silent since(This happened in March, so it's been like 8 months now). The reason people bring up Doris here though is because after the dude rightfully got shit on for the AI shit, she came out and defended the AI guy and he started making AI covers of Doris and she would praise him every time a new one came out. Basically, Doris rallied behind the guy who contributed to Yogiri's depression.

>>63672851
only yogurt

>>63673388
shortly after the events, the only one being excluded was Yogiri. Spade Echo only joined her in majority belief of innocent after a little time passed, maybe a few weeks.

I can believe Echo was innocent purely because she pretty much fucked off the second everything started happening, rather than trying to pivot people to some unified group. Also the fact that Kagura Nana still trusts her, feel like she avoided doing anything that might risk her image just to maintain that relationship.

>>63678582
Well, I can trust Nana. She never misses, really.

>>63678048
When you read shit like this it becomes obvious that they dodged bigger future shit storms by firing them.
>>63676838
Both Coco and the bugs fucking off was a good thing.

https://streamable.com/5rqxj5

She talked about holo recently and praise how her ex company is a respectable company compare to chink companies.

>>63672851
she was fun, but she was also retarded. That's all there is to it.

>>63679869
I really wonder how much Cover was holding her back, because when she came back as Taffy, she exploded in popularity, to a degree that has completely eclipsed the level of success Echo had. Also I don't get how she was able to make a youtube channel as a Chinese indie but Cover didn't give her one as Echo.

>>63680035
She hired her own team of clippers and staffs, to be fair she wasn't that motivated when she was a holo.

>>63680035
CN was there just to secure the bilibili audience because main branch streaming there regularly was never a realistic option and many of them disliked it. I don't think they were ever held back from trying Youtube since Civia eventually streamed for a bit on Youtube and Artia was on Twitch.

Echo has to be the funniest one to remember was in hololive, because in the alternate universe where the Taiwan stuff never happened, we would've been hearing this in holofes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBFdJuqDjBw

>>63680134
I remember Civia's english youtube debut. I was subbed and eager for more but then the great chink out happened.

>>63680134
>I don't think they were ever held back from trying youtube
Civia and Artia spoke English and were not living in China. The others were probably banned from streaming by using vpn

>>63681710
And that means they should have automatically been on Youtube instead of bilibili? They still spoke Chinese for 99% of their careers. Even Artia chose to be mostly on bilibili both before and after despite having a Twitch channel.

>>63681796
>And that means they should have automatically been on Youtube instead of bilibili? They still spoke Chinese for 99% of their careers. Even Artia chose to be mostly on bilibili both before and after despite having a Twitch channel.
What does this have anything to do with my post?

>>63681885
You quoted
>I don't think they were ever held back from trying youtube
and said Artia and Civia spoke English as if that has anything to do with what I said.

https://streamable.com/8vrqs8

>>63680345
I remember Civia being spammed with Tiananmen Square and all the usual shit when she was about to do her Youtube debut, it's no wonder she'd retaliate if that's the way you get treated before you've even done anything

>>63681914
They never streamed in chinese on youtube or twitch. And the other 3 that never touched youtube and twitch had worse English skills and/or lived in China

>>63681995
But they streamed in Chinese on bilibili and they streamed there for most of the time. Despite Artia not living in China and speaking English, she preferred to stream on bilibili even after end of CN.

>>63676838
Truth nuke

>>63682088
Of course they streamed in chinese on bilibili. They were chinese and ESLs and their main audience was chinese. And they clearly had limitations and rules banning them from freely streaming on youtube. Just think about it, why wouldn't they stream in chinese on youtube or twitch and only the ones that were outside China and knew some English that did some streams outside bilibili? Why wouldn't they simultaneously stream on both platforms like holos did? They could've earned some extra money but they didn't do that, probably because they were not allowed to do so.
Civia had 2 monetized streams before her graduation on youtube and she raked in $1.4k on the first monetized stream and $900 on the second one. That was way more than what she ever earned on bilibili per stream. And yet it looked like she was only going to stream once a week before the chinkout

>>63672851
Who are these chuubas?

>>63674944
Isn’t she a Hong Konger

>>63681939
Yogiris singing is good. Thinks could have been so different... fuck you CCP faggot for taking this away from us.

>>63678048
Why are Chinese so into ai shit

>>63682457
>And they clearly had limitations and rules banning them from freely streaming on youtube.
You have no proof of that.

>>63685885
Australian

>>63685998
If you lack talent, let AI do it for you.
Also it's easier to censer an ai from saying the forbidden Ts then it's for a human.

>>63685998
souless attracts souless

>>63685885
She's cantonese (she's talked about being able to speak it on stream)
Hong Kongers are also cantonese but not all cantonese people are from Hong Kong. It just means someone from southern China.

>>63672851
MY QUEEN

>>63686293

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>>63672851
I never knew them so, what did they think about Idol culture?

>>63672851

>>63672851
Doesn't matter. Kill them all and let God sort them out.

>>63686324
I laugh every time I see that gif.

>>63672851
The left 2

YAGOO PLEASE SAVE CHOWA AGAIN

>>63672991
ehhhh

>>63682393
Nah, more like CCP cock sucking. Thank God Cover got their asses out of China.

>>63676838
There, have your two cents...

https://files.catbox.moe/d4iyt7.mp4

>>63676838
Based

I miss you Yogurt...

>>63673631
>>63673809
Where did the Yogiri being Taiwanese story start from? Does she have a notable accent?

to be fair, its not like they were jealous or greedy whores - they played the shit card they were dealt. its rare to be people like the first two who can defy their own cultures.
can you even blame the fans either? billibili had their own water fucking army and instigated brigades.
at the end of the day, hololive got the better end of the draw at the end given the vtuber laws that happened

>>63672851
only yogiri and echo were innocent. civia has regretted her actions though, while the others have not. i only have pity for yogiri. she was one of my favorite holomen, had a beautiful voice and a kind heart. i loved her so much and i was so upset when she was forced out because of Hurt Feelings bugs and her snake genmates. Fuck the ice witch till the end of time.

>>63674944
she's canton, and her family emmigrated. like most chinese people in other countries, they aren't particularly fond of the mainland.

All I always hear is "China bad", etc, etc, etc.
I don't know man
maybe they were responding to trolls they took it personally and fucked up?
>inb4 chink
whatever man, I'm not a chink but I'm not a gringo either I'm just curious how normalfag drama channels and clipniggers make this a "China bad" propaganda but I'm 100% sure there's more to it, there's always two sides to every story
I know these girls reacted poorly but I find it hard to believe they harassed other members

>>63710770
I mean, when you look at it after learning that both CN and JP management completely ghosted them after Coco and Haato got suspended, it becomes less surprising that some of them acted out and did some impulsive stuff.

>>63678048
>The second channel was her just rebranding her utaite PL account as an indie vtuber
I would like to see this Utaite account....please.....i need to hear her voice again. i can't find her.

>>63711190
Pretty sure her name is Rii

>>63685998
Same reason they've been making factory knockoffs of your favorite x for decades

>>63672851
only 2 of them were innocent and one of those is doing it well as far as i know, the others, well, i hope they deprogram themselves at some point, not a single government deserve any kind of loyalty, you have to be young and stupid or adult and retarded to actually believe any of their bullshit, and quit your bullshit holotards, coco let out some racial shit a couple of times which is the reason i stopped watching her, she wasnt precisely innocent neither.

Yogiri in holo dev_is gen 2. Yagoo pls....

>>63672851
Where're their archives on bilibili?

>>63673393
A little more than ID. Artia-Moona collab was kino btw

>>63680146
Taffy is hilarous and cute
>>63679998
Politics aside, Artia was great. It's a shame we didn't get to see the cringekino that would have resulted from her interactions with Myth.
>>63681956
and then CN management banned her from YT
>>63682088
the company that she joined after Holo flat out didn't allow her to stream on Twitch

>>63672851
Yogurt....

>>63710530
Yogiri's "live" was great, even if the mood was heavy given the circumstances.

>>63676838
cope, zhang

>>63672851
The only one of any worth out of that cesspit was Yogiri. They should have just kept her.

>>63672851
Go home to nga, zhang

>>63678048
There's a special place in hell for pathetic incels like these.

>>63710770
>there's always two sides to every story
Yeah there is
one side - chama and coco show a bunch of country flags which has taiwan in them
other side - incel outrage, online harassment and bans

>>63672851
Innocent, Innocent, WHORE, correction needed, WHORE, WHORE

>>63679998
>>63717370
Artia did nothing wrong, she wasn't some CCP communist she was just a idiot.

>>63724005
>actively cheering on jingoistic harassment against your colleague and company
>just an idiot

>>63724005
She did things wrong because she is an idiot.

>>63721638
The dumbest part of it is that the chinese were the reason that taiwanese flag was so high in their youtube analytics. The chinese fans from bilibili can't watch them on youtube so they needed to use proxies and vpns for that purpose. The ones they used were from taiwan, so it recorded that the girls were getting a bunch of views from there.

>>63672851
Taiwan bros say yogurt is cool, so she is cool. everyone else but specially artia can go jump off a cliff.

>>63731171
Taiwanese are pretty weebish too. they would still be top 10 without the mainland chinkies. this was bound to happen and good for hololive anyway

>>63672991
1 of the 2 was a bitch though but she was innocent

>>63673095

>>63711190
did you miss the dox a while back?

>>63672851
Did they condemn their chats for attacking Kson and Chama?

>>63731089
She did the chinese equivalent of watching birth of a nation onstream.

>>63672851
>>63672991
Chowa...

>>63679869
Based Taffy
(Either that, or maybe CN companies are just shit)

>>63673095

Yogiri was the first 3D stream I ever watched and it makes me sad we'll never see more of her now. Can't even watch the youtube of it I have saved cause it's blocked by SME

>>63672851
Coco wanted to take over Artia's English-speaking viewers so she started clusterfuck with Taiwan.

>>63736888
That's not how the conspiracy theory went anon

>>63678197
Because Yogiri was effectively a meme in /hlg/, whilst people barely knew Spade Echo existed. People just realised over time she never did anything whilst it all went down while shitty stories came out about the other thread non-entities (Doris and Rosalyn).

whole thing sucks...

>>63672851
Civia was innocent.

>>63672851
The red one

>>63672851
All is innocent except 3rd and 6th

>>63717872
She's even better than Towa due to professionalism. Dance-sing skill are equal though

>>63735767
For context, one chink company is using her and trying to drag her into drama so she had to address things.

>>63672851
I miss that lil nigga Spade Echo like you wouldn't believe. Ace taffy should stream on YouTube

>>63672851
I genuinely don't give a single fuck. Artia was entertaining to watch, why should I care about someone else's oshi just because they share a company name.

>>63747379

>>63733685
bruh i wouldnt be asking if i didn't.

>>63679998
What ever became of her after her parents insisted on her quitting vtubing altogether?

I never got to know Yogiri
I heard rumors the creator of the chinese spambot was active in Artia's discord

>>63678048
thanks, I'm sad now

YOGURT DID NOTHING WRONG, And neither did Spade Echo.
COVER IS A BLACK COMPANY.
Some HolooJPs are much worse than Artia.
Verification not required.

Can anyone back up the statement that Yogiri and Spade Echo are Taiwanese? I keep hearing that show up a lot when discussing HoloCN

Am I the only one who thought spade echo was the best hire out of all them

Artia was right. Coco is nothing but a traitorous American whore.

>>63672851
Hasn't china been steadily releasing major anti-streamer laws since 2020? Like having to register your personal info onto a public database on bilibili?
Innocent or not there was literally no possible scenario where they would not have graduated as a branch 3 years ago.

>>63676838
chink chong ching chong fuck your mom

>>63672851
Civia my love...

>>63672991
Spade echo, while innocent in regards to what happened in hololive, was admittedly a bitch. Cheats on her fiance regularly, stays with him only because he's loaded and leaving China to live in the US. She also wanted to leave China.