/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63814308
It is just jewish tricks to make people not refund

>second hand guilt cuckolding
Jews are really something else.

>>63814308
Goy please... think about the for profit corporation before clicking..

>>63814308
This is such a shitshow, Idol just looks petty with that disclaimer.

That's my vacation home money you're refunding from me, you greedy otaku fuck!

They are trying too hard. It's so sad.

Wheres the lawsuit.

>>63814308
https://wkf.ms/3R4PQxI

Forgot the link.

>>63814308
Imagine appealing to fondness towards the company that had a groomer in place as lead talent manager for years.

what is there to refund anyway?

>>63814308
wouldn't that encourage more people to refund?

>>63814308
>terminate talent after she does a big donothon
>refund money
>"this is sad :("
They aren't keeping your money. Why are you sad?

>>63814759
It's how petty they are being about it anon.

>>63814308
Corporate Vtubers and their corporates are the worst.

Support indies. Always.

>>63814759
Don't try too hard Aviel

>>63814308
Sakana did the same thing without being all woe is me about it

>>63814828
amen.

>>63814787
I don't see any pettiness, only honesty.
>we will refund the money out of our pocket
>we won't be taking the money she got
>so please don't expect to own a whore or something, all we're doing is giving her fans the money they spent on her projects back
What a fucking retarded excuse to make a drama thread.

>>63814386
That's not the point. They're just letting you know they're not taking Riro's money, so if you want a refund you're just hurting them and she'll be fine.

>>63814308
That donothon was like 3-4 months ago, they could've perfectly not done this. Respect for going as hard as they have on the entire situation, it sucks they cannot take the money from her since it's been so long though that bitch doesn't deserve a single penny

>>63814934
She went above and beyond in fulfilling what she promised. She earned that money.

>>63814308
>Riro Ron Refund Form
>Not Riro Ron Refund Report
This is the true travesty.

>>63814866
IIRC Yuri got like 5k to buy a new computer, while Riro got 15k from her donothon.

>>63814759
>>63814870
>>63814870
>>63814934
IDF, Assemble!

>>63814870
The termination announcement already said they are doing refunds for Riro. It goes without saying that they are refunding in Riro's place. For his own pettiness, he just had to go out of the way to state what is already obvious to everyone. There is something called trying too hard

>>63815054
>oh no someone isn't joining my retarded shitposting
>he must be defending my enemies!
Please think things through before making your next thread, you won't embarrass yourself so much that way.

>>63814870
please understand, seamonkeys that made this thread are not the brightest

>>63814308
>>63814339
>>63814363
>>63814386
"resulting in a loss" just means they don't want to pay taxes; it's accounting tricks, just like what hollywood does, no surprises there

>>63815128
You are the obvious embarrassment. Stop trying so hard.

>>63815116
It's called being honest and reminding people of what they're doing. You're the idiot who's reading too hard into this because you hate jews or something.
>n-no you're embarrassing!
What a disappointing shitshow of a thread.

>>63814995
Fair but wasn't the money supposed to be spent on Riro anyways

>>63814995
15k? Well, if Riro's fans were saving up to pay for sex with her I guess it makes sense that she made much less money than the other idol girls did for their donothons.

So what they're saying is that they'll pay back all the people that had sex with her?

Holokek deflection thread

>>63815206
Mhmmm keep at it anon. Maybe idol will "lose more money" from paying you to defend them on 4chan.

>>63815226
yes, they will take the sex back

>>63814759
Its just mentioning that any refunds will be tasking from the company budget and asking people to keep this in mind when asking for a refund. Its kind of obvious since the money has to come from somewhere, it just feels like guilt tripping to bring it up again.

>company goes out of their way to refund donothon money out of their own pocket
>somehow retards make this into a negative

>>63815371
b-but muh guilt trip they're making me feel bad :(
100% of the people in this thread didn't spend a cent on her donothon btw

>>63815371
Its a PR stunt

Jews are this desperate to keep good optics kek

>>63815371
You are either retarded or missing the obvious guilt trip and attempt to earn "I'm a nice guy" points. The refund itself and the announcement were obvious enough. The whole point of this message is to guilt trip people into not doing it, trying to gain some good boy points and personal pettiness from the jew himself.

>>63815416
I didn't even know she existed until people started laughing at her getting fired.

>>63815416
yeah because donothons are a red flag and anyone with a brain would steer cleer.

>>63815371
Are you too retarded to spot the desperation to maintain good optics or are you on their payroll? I really don't want to believe you are this retarded anon.

>>63814308
Sasuga Idol boss. Let me play on the world's tiniest Jewish violin. Real talk that emotional manipulation is refined.

>>63815455
Or maybe they're reminding anyone who's furious about spending money on someone who turned out to be a whore that said whore will get away with everything and keep the money they wasted on her, so if they're requesting a refund in order to hurt her then too bad.
Funny seeing this one fag jump so hard to conclusions though. /pol/ brain rot runs deep.

Jidfcucks this is pathetic...

>>63814308
Oh no this is so sad~

>rules: Dont make me jealous
>but I can cuck you whenever I want :3
Seeing as how the lead manager fucked Riro is very likely he fucked other girls too.
How can you even donate to an"""idol""" company at this point?

Can I refund the sex with Riro and use it to buy sex with Poko or Yuko instead? Pls respond Aviel

>>63814308
aviel...

>>63815559
This reminder is completely unnecessary. I remember perfectly fine the whore left with my money. The extra guilt trip wants me to do a refund though because it would be funny to see someone trying so hard for good optics to fail.

>>63815710
What you dont want to donate $10000 for a chance to win Yukos used socks?

>>63815741
Congratulations for having at least two digits worth of IQ. Most people aren't as fortunate as you, so they need to be constantly reminded of everything, and even then they'll still forget.
Feel free to request a refund by the way, you will definitely see all the money you spent on her back in your bank account. All 0 cents of it.

How much did Sakana pay you to make this thread? I hope he's paying well, it's been a non stop the past few days trying to spin everything idol says or does to be the most evil thing ever, please at least make it less obvious

>>63815371
It's the perfect storm for the usual crow: SEA dramafags, kiwifags, and the worst kind of Phaseshitters who wants to "own" the rival company.
They're particularly irrate since the jew shut down their dramafags, so they'll use any nothingburger to chimp out.

>>63815878
keep yourself to your fag discord

idolcucks... the phasechads are making fun of us again...

>>63815710
Considering that they fired the lead manager he probably didn't get a chance to fuck any of the other girls. But it wouldn't be surprising if he tried to groom Yuko.

>>63815847
Thanks for your input rabbi.

>>63815945
Anon he is the co-founder of the company
The fuck do you mean he had no chance
>>24929282

>>63814308
>willing to pay from their own pocket for their fuckup
>this is bad somehow
retarded niggers

>>63814308
Jew is sad when part with money, but they don't have to guilt trip fan like that

>>63814308
another phase / idol shitflinging no different form hololive and nijisanji on this board.

>>63816108
but you aren't even capable of feeling guilt

>Shills told me this shit was better than hololive

>>63815937
Idolchads...the phasecucks have a less buzzworthy sounding meme name when we remix them

All it took was one yab. One yab, not even the most outrageous one, to ruin the image of the whole company. Kino.

>>63814308
Wow. Just wow.

>>63815847
who the fuck is sakana. regardless this notice/disclaimer is embarrassing.

>>63815990
How many of them did he groom????
>>43150875
>>43139946

>>63814386
They don't even have any profit. Idol has never made a single penny

>>63815847
Shut up pharisee

>>63815990
Looking at the guy, I really don't think he was this massive chad that fucked everyone behind the scenes. Only Riro because she seems like the type that would give it up easily if it resulted in a massive paycheck or special perks at the company, maybe grooming Fuyo and Yuko on the side since they seem like brainlets.

>corpo is transparent and actually goes as far as refunding whatever money you've been deceived into giving one of their grifters
>this is bad
I stopped watching idolEN but aviel is based for this.

>>63815990
>>63816252
This rabbit hole is getting too deep. This was 200% not an isolated incident like they want you to believe.

This thread is very organic and natural and there is no discord raid trying to make it look bigger.

>>63814308
it's just amazing how people still fall for vtuber scamathons

>>63815990
>>63816252
Jesus if I became a cryptobillonaire I know what the fuck I am doing
I am getting myself a harem of autistic women

>>63816407
Every accusation is a confession.
Tell the jewcord to fuck off.

AVIEL WILL PAY

So I can fuck jews over while getting my money back? Nice.

>>63816407
>look ma i'm projecting.png

>>63816331
are you too stupid to see the desperation? the seethe? the pettiness?

>>63815133
It's even better because all their funding comes from the israeli government kek. We're operating on multiple levels of shameless jewish tricks here.

>>63816337
why do you think they burned her so hard in the termination notice

>>63816488
I'd be desperate to clear my name too after it's stained by a druggie whore.

>>63816443
>>63816471
Wait so you disagree? Do you think there's a raid after all?

>>63814552
>yeah he banged your oshi but do you really want him to starve?

>>63816537
Yes but from the damage control side. We already know the yukocord organizes raids on /pcg/

>>63816537
It's pretty obvious JIDF sics their shills on any drama thread to damage control. Yes this is part of their raid.

>>63816534
it was stained by a grooming manager

>>63816583
Do you mean the same discord that constantly organizes raids on /jidf/ to shitpost as hard as they can because they hate how she abandoned her PL's fanbase?
What a bunch of schizos attacking both sides huh

Was it worth putting those bullet points on the termination just for people to bring it up in the future when talking about your company? Was the revenge worth the image?

Tomer fucked Neo Sparkles
Tomer groomed Pochi and she got a new model out of nowhere
Tomer fucked and pimped out Riro

>>63816597
Their damage control was funny at first but now its just sad.
Mandatory reading for your enjoyment:
>>62011878
>>61983634
COPE LIST featuring grudgeposting:
>It was a joke
>She was stoned
>OP is a fag
>That /vt/ loves blowing meaningless shit up out of proportion for drama's sake >>62012940
>schizo posts
>We've learned that anons on /vt/ will make mountains out of molehills, take things out of context and straight-up lie about vtubers they don't even watch for no reason. >>62013785
>lying about the details and using a screenshot out of context >>62014051
>You dont watch her why do you care
>"It was RP to make chat lose NNN" >>62015665
>she was justifiably asked to take a break that she clearly needed >>62017138
>"people complaining are jealous women" >>62017276
>>62017740
>It. Was. Rp. Do you think vox and finana were serious about everything they said in RP? No. Do you think anyone was? No. The reason why management stepped on is because they know schizos will take it too far, look what happened to vox >>62017895
>it's clearly rp. Go back >>62018011
>ITT: holodrones and nijifags prove themselves to be absolute normalfags.
>its normalfags crying about it

>>63815371
Not really trying to discredit Idol or anything, but isn’t this just normal practice for this sort of situation? I believe both Kawaii and Phase did something similar, its a good thing but its also kind of expected.

>>63816655
Jakob your pilpul needs more work.
Contact your local rabbi for better instruction.

Is this phase on idol violence?

>>63814308
Avi, clean house. The girl who drank her pee must go also. Any other un-idol-like stuff. Then I will watch the girls who are left.

>>63816600
It's okay stardust, you can still try to bang her, she's pretty easy after all.

>>63816337
Retarded drama stirring brainrot, he fired a co-founder and friend alongside with the whore, if you think the CEO would risk more incidents like this happening again let me remind you this is jewcorp, you don't mess with their business and the brutality of the termination notice is a threat to anyone who could dare to try something similar in the future. Even then every girl who has streamed after the termination seems to be taking it well aside from the stress that this would normally bring, if you look carefully they even have dropped hints here and there dunking on riro specifically which goes to show it really is that simple and the retard had it coming

>>63816743
So you're just shooting shit without knowing the truth of how bad things are, I got it.
Being familiar with what's happening makes your shitposting more credible, just so you know.

>>63816732
They did the same but they did not go out of their way to remind people they are doing everyone's a favor and emphasize they are paying out of their pockets. The extra thing idol did is the desperation shown in the announcement here just to earn some good optic points or being extra salty about the situation. It can be very distasteful to some. Some people don't really realize it. And some people here are obvious jew corp defense force trying to damage control.

>>63816864
You're really not even trying here...? Did they give you the wrong script?

Sakana make it less obvious next time, your shitty drama stirring corpo can only complain so much. This specifically is not one of those instances so pause the raids for now until Riro has a new menhera moment

Why is this so passive aggressive?

>>63816967
kek. deflection

>>63816875
Retard, if they didn't in this specific case seeing how unstable and prompt to explode Kyoresu is she would've taken advantage by claiming they're taking money away from her.
They need to think every single thing they do around what that bitch might try, how it makes you feel doesn't matter

>>63816967
Why are phase fans like this, really? Phase attracts the worst people. This thread couldn't be more obvious.

>>63816967
Maybe stop fucking up first so sakana or phase or whoever else can't shit on you

>>63817110
And why would she do something like that? OH IS IT BECAUSE IDOL EXECUTED HER IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT?

seeing how much someone's trying to defend this thread by repeating how the announcement is petty and guilt-tripping is pretty damn funny

>>63816967
rent free holy shit

>>63814308
Me spamming the refund button
https://streamable.com/mqg04w

>>63817173
Everything in that statement except for fucking the manager was things that she streamed to the public retard-chama

>>63814308
fucking jews lmao, cant believe the retards here are actually falling for it

>resulting in a loss
It's okay Idol will just have someone else do yet another donothon next week and make up for it.
The fact they do a donothon once a month should tell you how they see their viewers.

Sakana is not involved in any of the threads about Riro or Idol corp.

>>63814308
time for another round of Donothons from EN1, not that this agency is capable of doing anything else.

>>63814308
hey, at least they are not taking money from a talent who is on her way out.

>>63816732
They should have a line item on their budget to cover unexpected situations like this one. So refunds shouldn't impact anything.
But this notice implies any refund will hurt the other talents. That means either they're irresponsible with their budgeting or Riro had even more money tied up than we think.
Either way, they shouldn't lead with it to try to guilt people out of accepting the refunds the company already promised them.

>>63817312
it's a tax reduction trick

>>63817494
Donothons?

Sakana stop being so desperate lmfao

>>63817512
Sakana does NOT post in these threads nor does he pay people to post on his behalf in them. take your meds

I'm imagining Aviel crying while furiously typing "Sakana stop" over and over.

>>63817514
saying that it will be resulting in a loss

>>63816291
So what's the point? Besides Idol Corp management having a bunch of women they can impose themselves on.

>>63814308
Refund it. Teach them to do a better job in the hiring process.

>>63817589
>Refunds the $20 for the two people who bothered to click the refund link
>Gets $15000 in a new donothon
>"it's a tax trick"

>>63817572
it would be hilarious if Fishman and the Jew were arguing on 4channel.org/vt/

>>63817512
Anon, at least he has talents that stream and get result.
Jewboy only has Rin and management being focused on fucking talents.

>>63817674
It is well known and proven the jew runs his own defense force here.

>>63817558
>>63817693
>>63817572
>>63817674
Sakana admitted to be shilling on 4chan multiple times already

calling out sakana is guaranteed replies huh? maybe i'll mention how for tenma's birthday he sent her a $200 super chat, that phase will then take a cut of, instead of just giving his talents a proper bonus.

>>63817774
> trust me bro

>>63817804
Maybe Sakana and Aviel have some things in common...

>>63817774
And we have whole threads of Aviel arguing with random retards before the first EN gen happened
Whats your point

>>63817804
This is a classic "hype man" tactic. One guy throws down big money and them more people feel like they need to join in.

Oh Aviel how far have you fallen, and what a shitty plan you had. You had a plan, right?

>>63814308
Can I get a refund even if I didn't pay anything?

>>63814308
Why are they refunding blowjobs? They'll just use the money for another from her. What is this company thinking?

>>63817969
Tommer fuck it up for him, no more Vtuber brothel.

>>63815710
>How can you even donate to an"""idol""" company at this point?
I mean, same shit goes on with actual idols.

>>63814308
Wouldn't this make you more likely to request a refund if you were a fan of Riro and mad at Idol?

>>63814552
that's why they deliberately left that point vague. going into it at all would damage the company a lot.

>>63815364
it also throws riro under the bus again.
>look how horrible she is and what her actions caused

>>63814828
>>63814867
buy an ad

>>63818280
This, I mean the biggest talent agency in japan Johnnys was known to be a brothel were the powerful of japan could fuck their men in the ass except for the top dog (it was known before the CEO died and the allegations became public, it wasnt just in the press before then since they were that fucking powerful)

did they really fire tomer?
how would we know?
does he have equity in idol?
i wouldn't like the idea of spending money on idol if the groomer has equity there.
you should clarify tomer's position in idol, aviel, i know you're reading this thread.

Who would've thought that Phase would directly promotes hate raids and even put a team on a payroll to spam anti-idol propaganda, I wouldn't have expected them to sink this low I even enjoy some of their chuubas but when the higher ups are this involved in drama stirring there's nothing good left to enjoy. Just take a look at their community and you'll realize how this culture they developed does nothing but worsen the board quality of discussion and rampant tribalism with some political brainrot on the side, please stay in your containment threads and do the rest of us a favor

>>63814308
I'm starting to think whoever is responsible for handling this also fucked Riro because they're acting like a vindictive ex.

>>63818534
I'm suprised so many people are suprised. It's safe to assume any entertainment adjacent company will have some level of this going on behind the scenes.

>>63818534
Oh and I should add that they wouldnt even let magazines use pictures of their manwhores, they would just publish the contour of the manwhore on the front fucking page

>will not be taken from Riro Ron
Are they implying people should target their revenge on her? I guess they are trying really hard to cover their head manager broke the most important rule in this business.

>>63814308
kek, Jews parting with money

>>63819101
>implying
Nice try. I will not watch your phase whores.

>>63819101
they are just creating a narrative that will explain why she will suddenly be murdered by a "fan" (who is totally not a mossad agent)

I HATE JEWS SO MUCH AAAAAAAAA

>>63814308
https://x.com/PochiWanmaru/status/1731390094475682146?s=20
Anon, you forced Idol to have another donothon.

>>63819374
>If Roca didn't postpone hers they were really going to have two back to back
top fucking kek

>>63819374
They would've done it regardless

>>63814308
>Offers refunds
SO EVIL!!! HOW COULD THE JEWS DO THIS!!!
you pipniggers are so fucking pathetic

>>63816180
It's all the same

>>63814339
fpbp

>>63814308
what loss are you talking about aviel
you're funded with IDF money, you literally have inifnite money hacks

>>63819492
They're forced to offer refunds. Its the "please dont refund we'll lose money~" that is pathetic

Kiwiniggers just taking L after L aren't they?

All the donothon money goes to the talents and the staff even covers all costs involved in the goals, that's why they had to remind 1iq retards that they'll pay the refunds out of their pockets.
But sure, call me a shill if it makes you feel better. As long as you're satisfied with your tribalshittery.

>>63814759
Mossad agent, don't respond to mossad posts.

>>63819374
top fucking kek

>>63819635
Anon, everybody knows the refunds are paid from the company's pockets. It's the fact that they feel a need to remind people about that which makes it feel Jewish.

>>63816291
Maybe ? Even if it's true, they just need to keep sucking that sweet gob funding
I wish that the idea of funding and profiting from vtubing using state money was mine

>>63819492
Dude we're not even pipiniggers I just don't think anyone with a heart in the world wants to support an Israeli corporation.

>>63814828
Okay I'll bite. Gimme an indie that can sing and does so regularly.

/vt/ now hates jews. I've seen it all.

>>63818847
Honestly I’m baffled that Phase somehow got Idol’s lead talent manager to groom and fuck Idol Corp talents. How the fuck is Sakana allowed to do this shit and get away with it?

>>63819635
anon can't even comprehend why people are upset. No wonder you fall for all of idol's bs

>>63819960
>now

Every refund request is a step closer to a free Palestine.

Menhera is gonna menhera, they should have thought about it before hiring her

>>63819988
I don’t even think upset is the word to use, it’s just funny how Aviel worded the statement.

>>63819935
Ninanin (forma de cunny)

>>63820068
Exactly. People out here having a laugh at the wording. But the defense force is all hands on deck and trying to deflect to make it into a tribal war. Just pathetic

>>63819808
>we're not even pipiniggers
sure... not after kiwi has been baltently raiding the board and /jidf/ since the drama and nearly all the accounts supporting Riro are Pippa fans and after Aviel got a drama nigger pipnig and BVTM banned last night.
Nope not pipnigs at all.

>>63820068
Yeah I have no problem with what they are trying to convey but it's what I would consider unprofessional in it's current state... but I guess that's how they got into this boat in the first place.

>>63820192
lolina

Why is getting refunds sad, that's a good thing

>>63820225
poor little /jidf/ is just the victim here and didnt do anything to deserve this
just ignore the months of shitting up the board, spamming yuko in every thread on the board, attacking any general that tells you to fuck off, making "gura killer" threads with yuko and rin and thats just the top off my head
your next post will be "t-thats falseflags!"

>>63820225
I support Riro and I fucking hate Pippa, try again.

>>63820334
its incredible how blatant you retards make it
the fact that you felt the need to cover your false flagging by going "NOOOOO YOU CANT SAY ITS FALSE FLAGGING" is incredibly sad
literal admission of guilt

>>63820334
Wow you really hit the nail on the head.

>>63820225
Keep huffing that copium. It's totally not because the company is trying to dilute the blame in such desperate manner that makes it funny.

>>63820406
thank you goyim but please send money to our refund... I mean Pochi moving donothon.

>>63820437
damn you are really that upset BVTM got banned again?
tell Proctor and Kyouko I said hi i guess

>>63820225
I just like seeing hardcore GFE chuuba get exposed as whores. Hell I’ve been laughing at Riro’s fans since they tried to claim that member’s stream was just RP

>>63820236
Unprofessional would be letting people figure out the details for themselves, if you're doing things professionally you're supposed to explain every last detail.

>>63820334
>>63820383
>>63820436
>>63820437
>>63820476
>>63820497
PING THE KIWICORD BOYS!!! WE NEED BACKUP!!
https://twitter.com/kyoukobvtm/status/1731396872789508455

>>63820478
>Phase
>BVTM
>Riro
Keep diluting. We know who "had secretive relation" with her.

>>63820504
>if you're doing things professionally you're supposed to explain every last detail.
So you’re telling me it would be peak professionalism if Idol detailed every single detail of the relationship Riro had with both the manager and the fan she met up with? Including all DMs and the intimate details of what exactly they did behind the scenes?

>>63820225
>Aviel got a drama nigger pipnig and BVTM banned
wtf i love jews now

>>63820406
I wasnt born yesterday I've dealt with you people on other boards for years. I know everything you do

>>63820406
you are such a sorry retard. stop victimizing yourself. I guess you must feel insecure after all that's happened. How can the best corp do anything wrong? How can we do so bad after spending this much money? Impossible! someone must be after us.

>>63820518
oh nyo... they are live posting their raid and not even trying to hide it at all

>>63816875
Or they're making sure some retards don't refund out of spite because they think it's coming out of Riro's bank account? With how detailed the termination notice was I wouldn't be shocked if someone wanted their $100 back because they want to epically own her after being cucked.
I don't fuck with Idol but it makes sense. Stop being such massive faggots

>>63820504
Over-explaining and under-explaining are both signs of unprofessionalism. Explaining something that everybody knows will only lead to speculation why it was needed to be explained.

>>63820518
absolute kek, as expected of banevadedvtmemes

>>63820556
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>>63820603
>>63820610
holy shit they actually pinged their fucking discord lmao

>>63820683
Reap what you sow. They didn't have to go out of their way to kill off riro like that. This whole thing starting from the announcement just makes idol look like a massive petty dick. Defend them all you want, people react to what they see.

>>63814308
Aviel’s got two more donothons cooking already. Pochi is about to do her second donothon despite still having rewards still unfulfilled from her first. Hate on them all you want but their donothons are always very successful.

>>63820778
If they did then those posts would be new IPs you fucking retard

>>63820815
more money for tomer

>>63820852
they really fucking wouldnt dumbass this thread is old as fuck

>>63820815
>Hate on them all you want but their donothons are always very successful.
>very successful.
>despite still having rewards still unfulfilled
From a customers perspective, this is just a scam.

>>63814308
>asshurt continues.
Did Aviel also fuck Riro at this point?

>>63820504
Please explain the following out of professionalism:

>How did the relationship start?
>Who started dating first?
>What was Tomer's exact involvement?
>How can staff not know this was going on?
>Are other talents involved?
>Does Tomer still have stakes in the company

Please share all the detail, not just those conveniently make you look good optically.

>>63820692
>Explaining something that everybody knows
Well, did YOU know that all their donothon money goes to the talents and they don't keep anything? (something that wasn't explained in much detail anywhere, and was only obvious to people who follow the corp)
Did you know that because of that and how they've cut all tied with Riro, they'll have to pay for the refunds themselves?
Did you spend any money on her donothon or merch?
Or are you simply feeling outraged for other people, who may or may not feel the same as you?

>>63820913
Nah Aviel is married to [MODS WILL BAN YOU IF YOU POST THIS INFORMATION]

>>63820043
fool, they're going to send mossad asset retrival squads to extract any losses from rori ron

>>63820924
Oh I remember the jew saying all donothon money goes to the talents. This has yet been verified. Just a simple "because aviel said so" does not suffice. Post receipts.

>>63820995
why the fuck would he lie you stupid fucking kiwinigger

>>63820995
Literally in the OP

>>63820924
Be professional and explain how exactly all of these things work and post proof. Do 100% transparency like they claim. Show receipts. Don't just talk

>>63820225
I hate fascists including Pippa and mossad agents like you.

All you need to know is that the next gen, which already has their auditions done, sucked Aviels and Tomers dicks to get in. So im sorry if your graduated/hiatus oshi is in.

>>63820598
>>63820923
Please explain how those details affect the refunding of money for the people who joined the donothon or bought merch. Would (You) be less willing to fill the form if you know all details of how big the manager's dick is, Riro's personal address, and had her contact form for the meet and fuck?

>>63821018
Oh you gullible poor soul

>>63821079
You should ask for a raise. They have government money to pay you

>>63814828
>>63818459
Nothing to buy an ad for. Indies are so varied and spread out you can't point to them as a group, just individuals. Saying "watch indies" is like saying "eat somewhere other than a chain restaurant sometime"

By god, the BVTMcord really is seething after their newest liveposted shitpost thread didn't turn out as well as they expected huh

>>63814828
I never watched any indie, and I watch vtubers way before this board was made

>>63814308
>please note refunding will be on us
>please don't refund it makes us lose money
>please think twice before you ask for a refund since this isn't our fault
Do Jews really? They even gaslight you not to refund and make you the bad guy for wanting a refund.
Start the oven

>>63820924
None of that really needs explanation. The corporation handles the donations and money. She did her job and got paid for it. From the customer standpoint it makes sense they have no fast way to retrieve the money from her.

If Aviel is such a retard he opens himself to such financial risk, he should reconsider contracts with his idols.

The /jidf/ shills are really out in force today.

>>63821475
US tax money at work

>>63814308
>get nominated as best corpo
>they do this
fucking kek

>>63821170
How did you get so mindbroken by BVTM?

>>63821550
You're wrong. He got mindbroken by Idol and is desperately searching for somebody else to blame.

>>63821550
projecting?

>>63819635
>All the donothon money goes to the talents and the staff even covers all costs involved in the goals
Any fundraiser involving a company has to be a net positive for the company. There's no way they weren't taking a sizeable percentage of whatever was donated.

>>63814308
Yes those refunds will really cut into the profit margin of those Israeli grants.

>>63821598
he's a fag from /jidf/ who sits in a discord server with a handful of other losers including tomer himself.

>>63816514
They are far beyond parody at this point desu

>>63821672
actually I have a burner account in their discord and they literally @everyone'd after >>63820518 lmao

>>63821763
Nice proof + who cares

>>63821763
sad
>>63821830
>fishing for information so you can kick him

>>63821653
Yes, they made some amount of money after Riro's cut and paying for expenses. They could just return whatever profit they made, which might be modest, but instead they're offering full refunds to everyone who asks, even if they lose money that's sitting in Riro's pocket. I admit the wording is a bit suspect but there's no actual problem here.

>>63821763
Literally just joined to check if your boogieman is real and you could at least provide a better lie

>>63822012
wrong one retard

>>63814308
>pls dont refund us
>it wasn't our fault

>>63816583
I don’t understand what gave them such an immense hateboner for /pcg/ and Pippa.
The ”rivalry” they have with Phase is also really weird since it’s so one sided, when i check threads like this it’s always someone screeching about how /pcg/, Pippa, Kirschey, the fruitfarms or BVTM are somehow conspiring to drive a hate campaign specifically against Idolcorp and it’s talents. Even though it’s rare that i even see anyone discuss Idolcorp on /pcg/ or their adjacent threads beyond blatant bait attempts.

>>63822292
>wrong one
I literally took the invite server from their twitter and that guy isn't even in there. You're literally mindbroken holy shit

>>63821854
>Posting misinformation
So you're stooping to BTVM levels?

>>63814828
Said it before, and I'll say it again, if you hate Vtuber companies as a concept you probably don't understand why they exist and are used

>>63820610
>stop victimizing yourself.
But anon that’s all he knows how to do!

>>63820901
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

>>63814308
It's their own fault for hiring someone with so many red flags just because muh numbers.

>>63822894
I mean, look at this guy >>63822292 posting a screenshot from a completely unrelated user or server while you can easily go to BVTM discord to check if they really pinged everyone.
You don't even need an account to check the server and the server owner is literally named Kyouko. I don't even know where mindbroken tard is getting his screenshot from since he's so afraid of posting the server name. It could just be his account pinging @here to push the blame to his boogieman

>>63815990
>>63816252
This is called an open secret.

>>63822894
How was what he said misinformation?

>>63823297
that is the owner of the kiwifarms split TVA you dumbass
they arent talking about the BVTM discord
and the other guy talking about jidf and tomer is just a thread shitter speaking out his ass

>>63821522
>refunding money
Yes?

>idolfags deflect to phase for some reason
RENT FREE

>>63823410
Well he seemed so mindbroken by BVTM
>kiwifarms
Those people doesn't even like or side with anyone. They'll literally shit on anyone as long as they get their drama

>>63816319
>massive chad
Neither was Harvey Weinstein, yet he fucked plenty of hot women.

Enjoy the drama, lurkers. Remember to not bump.

>>63820192
still one of the worst downgrades in history, almost rivals pochi
im joking btw, pochis is the worst downgrade ever

>>63823557
>some reason
outside of all the proof?
>>63823584
kiwi is literally built upon LE JEWHATE, that is all the reason they need

>>63823593
Ok

>>63821274
>get racism warning when it's about (())
>slurs, SEA, euro and burger racism everywhere and untouched

>>63823776
wow its almost like the jannies dont even ban dox 1/2 the time its posted or ban for literal open raids

>>63823410
Oh okay I finally get it. No one in this thread knows what they're arguing and everyone is just trying to one up each other for (You)s. Understood.

>>63823776
you can shout things about SEApeople now?

>>63823923
yes basically, nearly everyone is drama tourists and dont know how blatant kiwi raids are, they literally have their names attached to their accounts 1/2 the time, they dont really care

>>63823776
It's up to which random janny gets their feelings hurt.

>kiwi is literally built upon LE JEWHATE, that is all the reason they need
Huh? Your chris-chan reps?
>>63823776
Anon, it's their pocket jidf mod. The only time I got banned on vt is when I told Idolcorp shills to fuck off with nono words.

>>63814308
Can’t wait til she goes indie. There is no higher peak than busting multiple loads into your oshi to turn you into a permanent fan

>>63816319
>Only Riro because she seems like the type that would give it up easily
Slandering the character of an someone to invalidate and diminish their claims.
>maybe grooming Fuyo and Yuko on the side since they seem like brainlets.
Preparing for other potential accusers or whistleblowers who may speak out by slandering their character prehensively.

>>63823776
Report it if bothers you so much, faggot. I've been banned for racism more than anything else in /vt/ and it's the only board I've ever been banned for it at all.

>>63823776
Site is Aviel powered

>>63823776
Welp

So wtf did she do anyway

>>63824032
Fuyo is on 'break' right now, we'll see in a week or so.

>>63824079
No holes barred with mane-san and paypigs.

>>63824107
>>63824032
Looking grim for Fuyo and Yuko right now…

>>63816698
i agree that she did nothing wrong, at least not for us, but organizing private meetings without including the company opens the door for quite dangerous issues for which the company will end up paying, not her, thats the biggest problem, but i am asking myself if they actually have experience running a company, if there were no immediate consequences you dont have to fire her immediately, just let human resources (the managers in this case) gather information and gradually reduce her responsibilities until you are comfortable enough to fire her.

>jidf rirocuck janny thinks he can ban me
Czeck em

>>63815723
I hear if youre black, Yuko give some discount

>>63823776
>[Deleted]
You've hit a nerve

>>63815945
The guy still own part of the company

>>63823593
Why? I completely agree with OP.

>>63823991
>pocket jidf mod
is that why people post literal dox there for days at a time without getting banned?
because they have a pocket jannie?
i swear you pipnigs are so fucking retarded its insane

>>63824221
>off by one

>>63824079
Nothing wrong. She was the only oshi based enough to actually get dicked down by her fans. Your oshi just gets dicked down by her bf

>>63824418
SEETHE

>>63824079
She took thousands of dollars for herself when those dollaroos could go to idol's CEO's pocket instead

>>63824516
There's no dicking. You pay thousands for her to watch you jack off. She won't be helping.

>>63814308
Riro fans you wouldn't hurt the company that fired your oshi would you?

>>63824418
Where is "there"? That post is talking about /here/. You can't even read though your vision turning red with rage, can you?

>>63824624
>>63824637
Kek you could see which is the shill here and which one isn't and they're both talking about the money

>>63824079
She stole the money for Aviel's iron dome now Phasemas rockets are destroying idolEN

>>63824637
Actually not true, can personally confirm

>>63823776
Really depends what janny is online. I've made fun of SEAdogs in SEA hours and have gotten banned but in 1st world hours it's untouched. Likewise you might have a (((janny))) on Aviel's payroll.

I honestly dont understand how Pippa managed to foster such a dogshit fanbase, its actually incredible.

>>63824740
lmao

>>63824824
>Likewise you might have a (((janny))) on Aviel's payroll.
LMAO there is no fucking way that's true, look at /jidf/ and you'll know why.

>>63824829
Pretty easy to understand. She tried to collab with the right-wing grifter sphere of podcasters and youtubers since she idolized them, gained a bunch of fans from that, and then completely failed to put even a minimal effort to tell them not to act like shitheads.

>>63824829
She got popular due to collabing with Mr Metokur and being a /pol/fag with edgy jokes

>>63824965
yea... /jidf/ is by far the least moderated thread on this entire board for its size.
its pretty obvious the jannies ignore it on purpose when hard dox is being spammed and nothing gets deleted until people start posting loli porn and even sometimes the loli gets deleted and dox/shitposting stays up

>>63824829
You reap what you sow

>>63824418
You’re starting to become incoherent anon.

>>63814308
It is funny and sad. On the other hand, it's probably better than refunding donathon from the talents themselves like kawaii did.

>>63824965
I honestly think it’s true because i’ve looked at /jidf/.

>>63826060
retard

>>63824824
>>63825129
Friendly reminder that the feedback page exists for a reason.

>>63826103
Could you give me some actual argument as to why that’s not true then?

>>63824965
Now i just think it’s true even more.

>>63814308
Shit like this gives credence to riro's version of events. Idol doesn't seem as squeeky clean anymore.

>>63819635
Aviel you need to really stop posting with the spoiler text. It's a cute tell. Just man the fuck up and trip already. That or just plain text like the fish.

>>63826309
>not a new ip

>>63826450
IdolHQ should probably stop posting from the office network.

>>63814308
What happens to the money donated to Riro that isn't refunded. Does the corpo keep it or does Riro keep ut, uf the latter the "refunds will not be taken from Riro" is just playing semantics, the end result is that she will have less of the money but if the corpo keeeps it then that seems pretty scummy.

It blows my mind that a Jew company from Israel is offering refunds, that's how you know they aren't lying a single bit about anything related to Riron

>>63826219
>>63826294
retards