/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I was just about to start a new thread, thankfully I refreshed before I posted.

>>6346349
>73k
>under 30k
Slow day

>>6346349
Predictions for Irys's debut?
https://youtu.be/WTU3TIZRUCM

>>6346492
100k, or 120k being generous

>>6346492
Anons are talking crazy and saying "under 100k". I say 130k-160k.
If Subaru can pull 91k on a basic bitch gimmick stream in the middle of the week 100k would be a hard floor

>>6346492
500k
Hololive buff is that big

Kanata is really milking the numbers by being a lucklet.

>>6346349
How is Gura's collab so low?

>>6346492
There's 5k people waiting already. Getting 75k is possible most especially because Sunday used to be filled with regular weekly shows like Holotalk, Subaru's zatsu and then Coco's reddit. Holotalk was held tonight and there's no Reddit anymore. Noone is taking the usual slots so setting her up at this hour and day makes sense.

>>6346668
Kiara debuff
not even joking

>>6346492
70~80k.

Kanata's numbers are undeserved even fucking flare is more entertaining to watch

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NytFlTXOMdk
Is Okayu reclining? These numbers look very low.

>>6346668
Debuff timeslot for Gura
Mediocre content (building a statue)
Chicken filter for long stream(Kiara's voice for extended periods of time is........)
Gura in Minecraft, it's not as big of a buff for her as some other games

>>6346540
>basic bitch gimmick
What are you on about. This was on a weekday night for JP primetime where people are already free to watch.

>>6346742
bait

>>6346349
No normal stream reached 30K today, huh
I am still weirded out everytime Kuzuha's Apex streams doesn't reach at least 23K
Did that Kanon girl not stream Apex today?

>>6346764
Second stream of a debuff game looks like, and there were a lot of people steaming in the same timeslot today.

>>6346549
Fuck it, 2mil tops

>>6346742
>Kanata's numbers are undeserved even fucking flare is more entertaining to watch
You are discounting the novelty of the "blue umpalumpa" breeding.
Kanata is blessed with bad luck, like in her SANS fight what brings the audience is her string of failures and her persistence

>>6346492
I've been consistently underestimating lately, so I'm gonna overcompensate and say 180k.

>"“I got called a nigger 15 times today,” the veteran officer shouted in the rotunda to no one in particular. “Trump did this ..."
ANONS WILL DENY THEIR RACISM AND DEFEND THIS!

Also: the left could have distanced themselves from hot topics (the whole reason Biden of all people got selected), secured their position and let the infight between Trump supporters and RINOs destroy the GOP from the inside but nooooo
>they're not this smart

They doubled down and even a basic bitch GOP would be RINO Kevin McCarthy is positioning himself to make them dwell in their own shit.
Thank God for the stupidity of the left

>PSST
You all saw nothing

>>6346818
Kuzuha and Hal are streaming at 11pm+ and they don't have the EOP/third worlder buff unlike hololive. Both of them can reach 30k easily when they stream earlier.

>>6347204
Does the count goes from when the stream starts or from then it ends?
If the later it would be counted for the next day

>>6346349
This is a hololive without Coco. Hololive without Coco is like eating curry rice without using any plates. Completely baseless. No different from the Nijidogs who eat off the floor.

>>6346818
a normal apex stream (no tournament buff or unusual collab) usually gets him around 20k. he also streams late at night until the morning.

>>6346694
I wonder who will be the first to make the "Reddit Review" time slot their permanent scheduled stream time.

>>6347260
No one cares faggot.

>>6347293
I could see someone from gen2 taking the slot.

Gura is 3 hours before rthe slot usually, and Ame sometimes streams at 10pm PST(2 hours later). If they're someone who can appeal to JOP and EOP, they'd be pretty set.

>>6347249
I don't know how vnuma works now, but 21k seemed to be his peak today. It doesn't always show the peak though.

>>6347260
Coco wouldn't even show up in that chart if she was still streaming

>>6346349
What's with the abundance of minecraft streams? 10 streams on the list are minecraft

>>6347818
Minecraft is a buff game and a "multi POV anime plot generator"

>>6347818
>>6347887
Also, axotol breeding for Kanata, still trying to get the blue.......

>>6346711
>>6346772
Funny thing about that collab, Kiara was pretty lowkey through out the stream and instead of what vt usually expects, actually got Gura to talk a lot. For that, ggg was quite grateful to her. And also, discord vc cuts off whenever kiara gets extra loud or makes weird noises. Protecting our ears a little bit, and adding to some level of comedic effect. But her voice is automatically anoyying to most people I guess. However Gura goes super mellow and a bit cranky near the end since she was only eating watermelon and pineapple during the 7 hour stream.
*smooth segue*, Gura's bad eating habits are why she's bad at learning stuff including games (which you guys were talking about last thread but I haven't finished reading it all before it was archived so here I am). She mentioned during this stream that her typical diet choice would consist of 30 gr of protein from something like hard boiled egg or chicken meat, and for carbs she probably relies on decaf energy drinks.

>>6347704
She will remain on the top of the chart forever, and rent free in your head.

>>6347704
This anon is our regular bilibili poster. Tell me Zhangchama. Are you still salty that no one cares about your manufactured bilibili Zhang numbers?

Kanata just keep on succeeding on failure, doesn't she?
Her failed attempts get her more viewers than Fubuki quick success, that's for sure.

Is Gura gaining members?

>>6346349
>14k Gura
>14k Shien
what the fuck happened, sharkfags?

Giken Access June 2021:

1. Apex Legends
2. VALORANT
3. Minecraft
4. Among Us
5. Dead by Daylight
6. Fortnite
7. Rust
8. Uma Musume Pretty Derby
9. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
10. Street Fighter V
11. PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds
12. Monster Hunter Rise
13. Pokemon Platinum
14. Identity V
15. Resident Evil Village
16. League of Legends
17. Yakuza: Like a Dragon
18. Knives Out
19. Shadowverse
20. PUBG Mobile

>>6348558
Chicken happened

>>6348558
7 hours of Kiara constantly talking.

>>6348584
wtf is going on with pokemon platinum? was there a specific huge japanese streamer that did a playthrough last month?

Will IRS end up with more subs than Anya before or during her debut?

>>6348794
Depends how good her debut is.

>>6348685
If there's ever a random old game that high up there's a 99% chance it's Jun, and in this case it is

>>6348888
>>6348794
If she catches up with Anya she's halfway there to catch up with AZKI

>>6348397
She's probably hoping not to succeed for as long as possible; and when she finally does, she's going to cash-in hard.

>>6349015
There is a reason "edging" is a thing and that's exactly what Kanata is doing
> by chance, she has no control on the odds

>>6349015
She ended up beating Sans when most Japs were asleep, she still did incredibly well out of it but it would've been even better if it was at a better time of day

Not watching the stream
>DID SHE GET IT?

>>6350182
nah she took a short break for something

>>6348397
Kanata is inclining babyyyy. So happy for her

>>6346540
this anon's range is on point. people saying sub 100k are delusional, hololive is way bigger than it was since last EN debut

>>6350212
>took a short break
Big mistake, should have had the piss bottle ready

>>6350518
think the break had to do with her stream having some proublems. once again fucked by susan.

>>6350518
Please anon take it to the ringo thread, I don't need to get erect again

>A-Anya .... why?
She's trying to sabotage her career on purpose, right?
There is a reason nobody was dumb enough to schedule a stream to that slot

>>6350991
She already said on twitter she's rescheduling it to after the debut

>>6351048
The fact she even entertained the idea weights over her judgement

>>6351075
>she even entertained the idea
She obviously didn't notice it would fall under the same timeslot as the debut, which is just as bad in its own way.

>>6351176
>which is just as bad in its own way.
My point exactly. How can someone even miss that?
Her genmates are already interacting with the newcomer and here is Anya, scheduling her stream in arguably the most debuffed time slot since Coco graduation

> 3 hours to debut, 8k people in the waiting room
Does that change your guys predictions?

Not sure what it means necessarily but found it interesting Kiara’s tweet with them posing in front of the pixel art has 30k+ likes. That’s oddly high for what seems like a pretty routine post though that art really was cute.

>>6352927
>8k people in the waiting room
wait for me it only shows 6k.. is Susan still fucking with her for being a newfag?

Nijisanji 3D Debut numbers updated

2020
Otogibara Era 01/08 52,685 ¥3,899,908
Lize Helesta 01/22 60,200 ¥2,953,193
Ange Katrina 02/10 67,985 ¥3,861,854
Yashiro Kizuku 02/17 57,519 ¥1,178,735
Gundou Mirei 02/20 46,149 ¥1,984,094
Inui Toko 03/02 58,257 ¥3,074,279
Yuzuki Roa 03/19 45,870 ¥1,741,264
Suzuhara Lulu 03/27 47,289 ¥1,863,889
Warabeda Meiji 06/19 30,406 ¥2,790,447
Joe Rikiichi 06/26 43,418 ¥2,805,861
Hanabatake Chaika 07/03 41,640 ¥2,654,243
Mayuzumi Kai 07/10 69,384 ¥3,038,245
Maimoto Keisuke 07/22 67,515 ¥1,723,168
Ex Albio 08/08 68,695 ¥2,990,711
Kagami Hayato 08/10 132,381 ¥10,269,624
Ars Almal 08/14 76,407 ¥2,387,601
Debidebi Debiru 08/18 119,092 ¥2,846,906
Yorumi Rena 08/28 75,599 ¥2,594,634
Kana Sukoya 09/12 67,234 ¥3,883,547
Kakeru Yuemoi 10/09 49,764 ¥4,587,812
Sakura Ritsuki 10/16 47,971 ¥2,628,547
Hakase Fuyuki 10/23 68,187 ¥1,800,563
Nui Sociere 11/06 72,873 ¥2,508,047
Makaino Ririmu 12/04 56,781 ¥1,434,148
Uzuki Kou 12/16 54,864 ¥4,056,336
Hoshikawa Sara 12/19 86,419 ¥3,957,746
Saegusa Akina 12/25 73,005 ¥7,509,846

2021
Kanda Shoichi 02/12 49,644 ¥2,912,489
Emma August 03/12 39,181 ¥1,241,889
Yuhi Riri 03/19 46,515 ¥2,036,826
Moira 03/27 27,859 ¥725,590
Fumino Tamaki 04/09 50,470 ¥2,511,839
Aiba Uiha 04/17 66,920 ¥2,225,236
Ratna Petit 05/09 48,915 ¥2,453,501
Aizono Manami 05/14 46,539 ¥1,241,597
Amamiya Kokoro 05/28 73,118 ¥2,838,543
Fuwa Minato 06/04 143,270 ¥16,358,272
Shirayuki Tomoe 06/25 73,880 ¥11,395,114
Ibrahim 07/02 114k ¥14,074,222
Mashiro 07/10 74,700k ¥2,007,553

Top 10 Peak views
1. Fuwa Minato 143,270
2. Kagami Hayato 132,381
3. Debidebi Debiru 119,092
4. Ibrahim 117,475
5. Hoshikawa Sara 86,419
6. Ars Almal 76,407
7. Yorumi Rena 75,599
8. Mashiro 74,700
9. Shirayuki Tomoe 73,880
10. Amamiya Kokoro 73,118

Top 10 Superchat
1. Fuwa Minato ¥16,358,272
2. Ibrahim ¥14,074,222
3. Shirayuki Tomoe ¥11,395,114
4. Kagami Hayato ¥10,269,624
5. Saegusa Akina ¥7,509,846
6. Kakeru Yuemoi ¥4,587,812
7. Uzuki Kou ¥4,056,336
8. Hoshikawa Sara ¥3,957,746
9. Otogibara Era ¥3,899,908
10. Kana Sukoya ¥3,883,547

>>6346349
in other news, Ollie almost made it to the top 25 two days in a row.. she kept growing through time, and almost reached 10k... but then HoloTalk started and she lost some audience

>>6353195
me again, ok I refreshed the page and now it shows 8k, nevermind

>>6353210
Here anon, reflowed it for you for better legibility

2020
>01/08 :: 52,685 (¥3,899,908) :: Otogibara Era
>01/22 :: 60,200 (¥2,953,193) :: Lize Helesta
>02/10 :: 67,985 (¥3,861,854) :: Ange Katrina
>02/17 :: 57,519 (¥1,178,735) :: Yashiro Kizuku
>02/20 :: 46,149 (¥1,984,094) :: Gundou Mirei
>03/02 :: 58,257 (¥3,074,279) :: Inui Toko
>03/19 :: 45,870 (¥1,741,264) :: Yuzuki Roa
>03/27 :: 47,289 (¥1,863,889) :: Suzuhara Lulu
>06/19 :: 30,406 (¥2,790,447) :: Warabeda Meiji
>06/26 :: 43,418 (¥2,805,861) :: Joe Rikiichi
>07/03 :: 41,640 (¥2,654,243) :: Hanabatake Chaika
>07/10 :: 69,384 (¥3,038,245) :: Mayuzumi Kai
>07/22 :: 67,515 (¥1,723,168) :: Maimoto Keisuke
>08/08 :: 68,695 (¥2,990,711) :: Ex Albio
>08/10 :: 132,381 (¥10,269,624) :: Kagami Hayato
>08/14 :: 76,407 (¥2,387,601) :: Ars Almal
>08/18 :: 119,092 (¥2,846,906) :: Debidebi Debiru
>08/28 :: 75,599 (¥2,594,634) :: Yorumi Rena
>09/12 :: 67,234 (¥3,883,547) :: Kana Sukoya
>10/09 :: 49,764 (¥4,587,812) :: Kakeru Yuemoi
>10/16 :: 47,971 (¥2,628,547) :: Sakura Ritsuki
>10/23 :: 68,187 (¥1,800,563) :: Hakase Fuyuki
>11/06 :: 72,873 (¥2,508,047) :: Nui Sociere
>12/04 :: 56,781 (¥1,434,148) :: Makaino Ririmu
>12/16 :: 54,864 (¥4,056,336) :: Uzuki Kou
>12/19 :: 86,419 (¥3,957,746) :: Hoshikawa Sara
>12/25 :: 73,005 (¥7,509,846) :: Saegusa Akina

2021
>02/12 :: 49,644 (¥2,912,489) :: Kanda Shoichi
>03/12 :: 39,181 (¥1,241,889) :: Emma August
>03/19 :: 46,515 (¥2,036,826) :: Yuhi Riri
>03/27 :: 27,859 (¥725,590) :: Moira
>04/09 :: 50,470 (¥2,511,839) :: Fumino Tamaki
>04/17 :: 66,920 (¥2,225,236) :: Aiba Uiha
>05/09 :: 48,915 (¥2,453,501) :: Ratna Petit
>05/14 :: 46,539 (¥1,241,597) :: Aizono Manami
>05/28 :: 73,118 (¥2,838,543) :: Amamiya Kokoro
>06/04 :: 143,270 (¥16,358,272) :: Fuwa Minato
>06/25 :: 73,880 (¥11,395,114) :: Shirayuki Tomoe
>07/02 :: 114k (¥14,074,222) :: Ibrahim
>07/10 :: 74,700k (¥2,007,553) :: Mashiro

>>6352927
Kinda hard to gauge still. The Niji 3D earlier had 7k+ waiting 15 minutes before the actual stream and ended with a peak of 73k. Might be better to wait for 15 mins prior to the stream to make a final call. Gonna stick with my 130k-150k for now (this is a very generous estimate from me by the way). Does anyone know predebut multipliers for debut streams?

>>6353353
What made Fuwachi such an outlier?

>>6346668
Dual perspective collab (Kiara had less viewers than on regular Minecraft streams as well) and collabs in general are a debuff for Gura outside of full member ones.
Add in starting around 5-6 hours before her usual timeslot. Also building pixel art for a song they did 2 months ago is not exactly the biggest audience draw.
>>6348119
Honestly I really do wonder where Kiara gets her streaming stamina from, because she hadn't eaten as well.

>>6351176
That's a pretty retarded stance to take, Gura had to move her racing game stream as well because it was too close to the debut date.
And Gura was far more likely to know the debut date in advance

>>6353854
>>6353210
Real question should be: what made Moira such an outlier. Is she hated or just, like Aki on Hololive, just debuffed by the circumstances?

>Stickmin is truly a buff game
Risu got her best numbers in a while, she didn't average 2k since she played Smol Ame in May.

Poor choice of time slot tho, Ollie made a killing choosing the first slot of the day and it did pay off: she streamed pretty much uncontested and made over 10k.
I know the girls themselves are not numberfags but certain things are common sense: anyone wanting to have a fighting chance in a place with so many top talent has to be extra smart to extract every possible advantage

>>6348519
It was a more interesting poll.
Her usual polls were used for short-term things like what to do the next day or something similar, this one was a bit more long term.
I wonder how many she'd get if she made a week long poll

Well, people will find out if Kiara was de debuff in 16 hours
> Calli - Gura Minecraft collab

>>6353854
His fans have deep pockets
He is friends with a bunch of livers and some utaite
Men are inclining

>>6354568
Completely different timezones and Sunday compared to Friday.
Especially important since it's pretty much proven that japanese viewers count more towards the concurrent live viewers.

>>6353999
It's well known that Gura doesn't give a shit about holo too.

>>6346349
Congratulations Mashiro! My favorite male V-tuber and my favorite 3D debut stream to date.

>>6354047
she's like Aki yeah

>>6351176
Interesting how in Hololive everyone gives space for the new members debut, regardless of branch debut. Even if they mess up and have to reschedule.
>Does Nijisanji have the same courtesy?
Did it happen with NijiEN?

>>6355788
nijien debuted assfuck early japan time when no one would be streaming (or even awake) anyway

>>6346818
No Kanon Apex today. Collab tomorrow

>11k waiting room for IRyS, 2 hours before debut
If nothing else, I'm a lot more confident that she's gonna get at least 100k now.

>>6356121
NijiEN debuted at the same time with one of Coco's meme review, which had quite de jp audience.

Amelia got only 5k playing Mario 64 and 12k playing Minecraft at 10pm PST/1am EST. Now, she has 6k playing Mario 64 on a weekend in a good time slot, so I can we can confirm Mario games are just EOP debuff games. Kiara, Gura, and Ame herself got some of their worst numbers playing Mario games in the past.

>ID tier

>>6356602
I remember Kiara's numbers being pretty decent for Mario outside of the shadowban.
Also both yesterday and today have debuff circumstances with the Gura/Kiara Minecraft collab overlapping and today the debut being around the corner

>>6356121
>>6356585
AmeSame Fishtank "Podcast" and then Meme Review

That day was stacked against them

>>6347204
>30k
When its scrims/an event. This has been explained so much already. None of you can even right click to english translate his titles huh

>>6346818
Kuzuha is going to mog the holos daily next month.

Top 100 Most Viewed Vtuber/Vsinger Original Songs of the Week(02 July 2021 - 09 July 2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ6_RwAJxH0

- Gura's "Reflect" is #1 again for the third week in a row, followed by V.W.P's "Dennou" and Calliope's "Excuse My Rudeness, But Could You Please RIP?"

- Nijisanji's top track this week is rank 25. The last time they had a track in the top 25 was 3 weeks ago.

- Top ten breakdown this week: 5 Hololive, 5 Kamitsubaki

>>6358427
Are Nijisanji songs not as popular or what?

>>6357818
I know that, but my question was about other Niji livers streaming at the same time as NijiEN debut, not Holos.

>>6358509
Niji covers usually do fine if they're from the popular ones, but original songs are a completely different ballpark from cover songs. Even Aqua and Pekora's originals struggle after the initial boom.

IRyS getting 60k is crazy talk, no way does she get 75k. You must be number retarded to think she can get 90k, lower your expectations to 100k, okay?

>>6358357
Ah so no wonder people say Nijisanji viewers are migrating, that glaring difference between then and now.

>>6346349
Did amanekanatach finally get her aoi oompa?

>>6358703
>>6358357
If I'm not mistaken this was the baseball tournament arc last year, which was the peak of Niji's viewership. The finals had 192k peak and none of the most popular members were even participants, just NPCs in the tournament. Basically everyone's numbers got inflated by 10-20x their usual numbers. If they do it again this year but with the most popular guys like Kuzuha, Kanae, Fuwa, Kenmochi.... they might get even higher numbers.
Cover probably has something similar in scale planned tho after seeing last year.

>>6358703
August is the month people in school have vacation. Considering that is niji male's demo they will get a huge boost.

>>6358516
Ah, I misread then

Iirc some Nijis were streaming and we also had the NijiEN debut party in the main channel

>>6358786
Nope. Fubuki is just putting salt on a fresh wound. She's filling up a chest full of those blue bastards

>>6358804
they are doing it again.

>>6358561
Man, they have so many members that I am unmotivated to even find their covers. They probably suck at singing if it is that hard for them to reach higher rank.

>>6358786
Susan got to her stream first. The quest goes on. Though I think the numbers reached their peak with this last stream.

>>6358561
>Even Aqua and Pekora's originals struggle after the initial boom.
Marine's, Suisei's, and Okayuu's keep growing and growing.

>>6358943
>They probably suck at singing if it is that hard for them to reach higher rank.
I'm a holofan but this is some of the most retarded shit I've ever read on /vt/.

>>6358930
O damn, Kuzuha is gonna avg 50-60k every one of those baseball streams then. I'm not sure which is more likely:
1) People aren't as intrigued by the rerun of an event they watched last year
2) More people are into vtubing than ever and some Nijis like Kuzuha have seen their viewership grow almost 2x since last August

I'm leaning towards the latter cuz nips are fucking crazy about baseball.

>>6358509
Well, the list speaks for itself.
Suisei and Mori are, for v-tuber standards, absolute standouts for Original songs. There's also the fact that Hololive is just better positioned in the YT algo with higher overall subcounts, clips, and there's a bit of a positive feed-back loop where more popular things keep staying popular.

Reflect is THE most anticipated original from the most subbed V-tuber in the industry. It managed to completely flip everyone's expectations on their heads with the genre choice while still being very solid on its own.

>>6359518
Depends who the teams are. 10 team leaders, is there enough JP to even fill it all?

>>6359245
Ah, the usual response. Insults, then fails to provide a counter-argument to prove otherwise.

>>6359843
If BTS and meme songs can top charts, then topping charts =/= talent

And I say this as a Holofaggot

>>6359843
there are plenty of very competent singers in nijisanji, their covers just don't do huge numbers and are therefore irrelevant to a numbers thread, dumb bitch-chama.

>>6360283
The fuck who's talking about BTS here. We are ranking VTubers.

>>6359843
>throws his opinion in a NUMBERS thread
>wonders why people respond with opinions
Huh...So weird.

coom yourself to these numbers

>>6360283
Retardchama...

>>6359677
There's over 100 members in NijiJP and I think NijiID and NijiKR aren't as irrelevant to NijiJP as they were last year so it should be pretty easy to field 10 teams. I'm curious how much of a buff Kuzuha and Kagami bring and how much a debuff losing Kizuki and Kenmochi is.

>>6360445
>They probably suck at singing if it is that hard for them to reach higher rank.

The argument here is that not talented = not ranking high enough. That's a stupid argument because intentionally bad songs manage to top charts. I'm merely providing a counter to the argument

>This is the number thread

That doesn't mean we get to extrapolate shitty assessments from the available data and act as if they are fact.

>>6360677
sharkfags keep winning.....

>>6360800
>Kizuki
Lol

>>6360889
Change my mind: Gura only picked to be a shark because she saw that baby shark is the most watched video in youtube history. She's actually the biggest numberfag in the industry by micromanaging her popularity since pre-debut.

>>6360354
>>6360452

You just rephrased what I said. If you are smart enough, you would have sent links.

Failed to take the hint, were you personally affected you had to focus on the opinion?

>>6361035
If that's so she's a psychopathic genius and deserves all she's gotten

>>6361040
names and links are given every time people say nijis can't sing, i just wanted to let you know you're a retard

>>6359677
there's 137 nijis total excluding cn.

8 teams.,16 members each, 8 team leader, 1 maimoto total of 137.

>>6360877
Which is exactly why to prove me wrong, I'd hope you guys would send me a Niji cover link with low count so I could double-check if I'm correct. My original statement has "probably".

I did say, there's too many of them for me to check.

>>6360958
You laugh, but Kizuki is lowkey one of the most popular males in Nijisanji. The weekly show he hosts on Niji's channel gets good numbers and his own numbers range from 7 to 10k if he's not playing dogshit debuff games. He's not on the same level as Kuzuha or Kanae ofc, but he's more popular than 80% of Niji girls.

https://vnuma.net/en/streamers/recent/f032609a2c524e6c97abd1ad63c8f09c/

>>6361035
Uh. Room-mate reps is my response.

To be more specific, this is probably the genesis of why Shark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lC9IBIAuIg

>>6361329
anon your spelling reps

>>6361241
Lesson anon. This is a number's thread, if you respond with nothing but insult, it gets derailed. Don't waste space.

Well, I did now too.

>>6361329
I’m laughing at you calling him Kizuki, when his name is Kizuku, and no one calls him that

>>6360958
>>6361635
>mispelt kizuku twice
aight imma go kill myself

Don't know bout that baseball tourney, but don't they lose a lot of novelty doing a rerun even it meant bringing Kuzuha? As far as my knowledge goes for him, can he make things more interesting other than just being there?

>>6361760
Iys alright just made me laugh

>>6360677
>more views than people


I coom

>IRS struggling to reach even 30k
lol shes gonna be a failure im calling it now

>>6361988
50k tops. I guess HoloEN is reclining.

Today's superchats

>>6362085
mashiro had his 3D
ib returned to minecraft which is a !huge deal! to his fans

>>6361988
>less than mins still 30k
its over...

Holonumbers for the first 10 days of July. First time Pekora got dethroned from #1 and it's by Coco's graduation stream. Subaru inclining hard. while Fubuki and Kanata getting a big fat minecraft Axolotl buff. On the other hand, Gura, Calli, and Ina slip because they barely streamed.

https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1414016302797131778

calling it for 175k on the five minute warning

>>6362566
It won't even get 75k looking at these numbers.

>>6362397
Forgot to attach pic

so far the number isn't impressive, wonder if there'll be an explosion in the last few minutes....

>stream doesn't come out on a youtube search
Is she shadowbanned?

>>6362684
its gonna incline hard with streams ending for her, then incline again when she goes to sing

175k is my guess

>>6362813
She's shadow banned. Or people aren't that hot on vsinger. 55k in prechat isn't bad but it isn't as good as we thought.

>>6362085
Just a bit higher than a whostar... Mashiro's fans are poor.

>>6362813
Agree, everything about her has been mediocre so far.

>>6362813
>>6362291
>>6361988
Here's your (You). Can't you shut the fuck up already, samefags?

>>6362813
>so far the number isn't impressive
>60k in waiting room
I hate newfags who have no context of what big numbers are. Did you guys start looking at numbers 2 weeks ago or something? Go look up the numbers for HoloEN and HoloID2's debuts. Even factoring in Hololive's growth, there's more people waiting for this stream than those debuts already. Coco's graduation numbers really warped all perception of what is considered a good number.

>>6362085
Aki over Rushia?! Holy shit that's a huge upset

>>6362990
It was under an hour and he ended it abruptly which added to it but yeah he isn't as popular as Fuwa or Ibrahim.

>>6362912
>75k waiting hasnt started yet

>>6362990
>Five times the amount of views.
Only 5k more in SCs.

I got 76k as the final tally in the waiting room.

>>6363056
Special occasion for Aki, but for Rushia this is just a normal day.

I think the biggest debuff is that she's not yet on jetri.

Wow, views halved in the first minute. What the fuck is youtube's logic in here?

>>6363336
thats normal, well now its normal, i assume anyone that doesnt get thrown into stream has to refresh to be counted, ive had streams start but not on my end til i refresh

>>6363216
>276k subs before debut
Only 50k shows up.

>>6363336
This happens in literally every stream.

>>6363054
I'm glad that Coco ruined your petty numberfag "discussion", it's the only good thing about her graduation.

>>6363477
90k right now

Snapshot right at the crossing mark...

She lost viewers.... It's ogre...

>>6365673
She lost 3K subs just after debut starts

Viewers are barely increasing anymore. We overshot the projections by a longshot.

90k design debuff is real

I said 175k. How can I call myself a numbersfag when I was this wrong?

>>6366290
>>6366390
It's the nose...

>>6366530
I said 80k so I'm not far off.

I said 100k for Lulu and 200k for Coco though.

The writing on the wall was true. EN is really declining.

>>6366530
You decided to go against conventional wisdom, faggotchama.

>>6366290
I was estimating 75k minimum just based on the common high peaks on this timeslot. Retards are just overshotting it

I'm not holoEN, how much views?

lol was it really worth it staying awake for this, SEAnigger baitposter?

>I do not like numbers

>I do not like numbers.
Ok folks, let's pack up.

>Not even 100k on debut
Dead on arrival.

90k huh, not bad, but not great considering the growth of hololive. Not particularly impressed. Really hope she sings a bit more just to give us an idea...

>she hates numbers

i saw 91K, is this the highest viewed debut so far?

>>6354047
She's first gen and actually busy as OL outside Nijisanji, hence she's only active mostly on weekends

She hates numbers. We lost boys.

>91k
Yeah, unless she gets a sudden surge, I was definitely way off. The design is honestly filtering me and the intro song despite the good MV wasn't hype enough. Her speaking voice is okay but IRyS for now is definitely a miss for me.

>>6367925
Botan got 100k I believe? But Botan has one of the best designs in hololive whereas as much as I hate to admit it, Irys's face is a bit weird. It's probably more fair to compare her to HoloEN and HoloID2.

>>6367925
highest of HoloEN yes, max was 80k

>>6367840
Numberbros...

I'm going to be honest, lots of people are getting tunr off by the nose, so she has a debuff, numbers have taken the toll

>>6369861
I'm starting to get used to her design though. She has a nice voice and that's all it takes.

>atrocious design
>horrible tracking
>boring voice
>mediocre singing and she won't get the google RNG buff anymore
>not part of holoEN
Dead on arrival, it's a worse AZKI by all metrics, I see 2-5k viewers on average in 2 months.

>>6370233
This is true, the voice is pleasant to listen to, and while the nose is a bit scuffed........

Well, we'll see how her first few streams go to figure out what her long-term growth will look like.

>>6370233
Her voice is similar to Ina. This is not too good when 2 members have similar style.

SHE'S OVER 90 THOUSAND !

>>6370722
She has a pleasant speaking voice. She is well spoken. Was only nervous in the beginning. She is more professional by twofold compared to HoloEn in the beginning. The MV looks expensive. The song was good. I'm gonna have to relisten. She's mainintaining 88-90k which is impressive. I do hope she sings already

>>6370682
For the first month, sure. While she's still banned from collabs. Even AZKi only got wind on her sails due to other holos. Though the worst part is if she's solo. she will hardly get any traction from all those debuffs. Even pekora got rushia for the first month.

>>6371092
Her voice is not similar. Ina has a nasally tone. This is clear. You can tell that she has been trained professionally because she enunciates her words very well. I can tell though that she's Asian.

so, any ceiling fans here?

>>6371403
AZKI numbers are the worst numbers of all holos, she sometimes loses to the homos, and her songs are doing even worse.

The scuff makes 2k people leave lol

>>6369861
The nose is the least of the model’s problems

Being a Vsinger, she doesn't need to have high live viewers in normal stream. Her goal is producing songs over 10M views.

shes losing subs rip

>>6369861
It's the face. It's too realistic that it goes into the uncanny valley.

>>6372342
????
She's gone up 3k subs from what I last checked.

>>6372209
Then I guess you'd be asking us next to forgive her awful model since holo MVs are just drawn images?
Here's hoping for her good 3D tho.

She can definitely sing. Damn.

>>6371403
I know Kiara mentioned it, but the first month collab ban might be a meme for her. She literally has no genmates so she has to collab with someone... right?

>starts singing
+10k subs

>>6372725
If her songs get iTunes #1 in multiple countries, she might has a good start like Mori.

>>6372209
Dumb cope, she got a model for a reason, she is going to stream like the others.

>>6372620
She gained 10k Before the start of her debut.

>>6373311
They need to give her good songs. A great voice won't help her a lot for that. Mori's song are the type that goes viral. Not exactly great but have viral quality

>>6373364
Can't imagine Vtuber without a model.

>>6372391
how is she realistic in any way you fucking weeb. are you fucking blind

>>6373746
It is realistic you dork

>>6373746
Compare her to your other EN girls, you retarded EOP fuck.

cover has that weird apmlified adhd rigging on their live2d, doesnt combine well with her flat and realistic face.
even bigger debuff than azki shittier 1st model
this girl is done, shouldve debuted her 3d, like an actual vsinger

Mori should've been the one in VSinger

>>6373390
Thanks for this, I didn't catch the exact sub number pre-debut.

The drop makes sense though, since there's people who probably subbed only so the debut would show up and then unsubbed either due to the face/rigging or until she starts streaming.

The streaming time-slot is probably one of the strongest for JP+Na engagement as it hits the Noon-time JP slot + evening PST one. If she's entertaining in her gaming, I see her grabbing a very solid following.

>>6375342
>>6373390

She has 290k subs right now, what are you talking about

>>6375856
Ask ame to tell that to past me, thanks

If you haven't checked yet, her schedule put her in the 11-4pm JST timeslot This might break dead hours.

>>6375856
Not even a third showed up for her debut.

She is good, Suisei level of singing. The design is not that bad. Remember Coco has the worse design.

>>6375856
Right, so I was looking at subs through the debut, and she had dropped to below 280k at some point.

Someone who's less lazy could go pull up a graph of how her sub numbers flux'd through the debut. That'd be interesting to see.

>290k subs on debut
She's not going to celebrate anything til 1M isn't she?

>>6375019
Mori can't sing. She can produce and rap. Irys can definitely sing. Her voice reminds me of a finer Reine but much more glossier

>>6376146
Balance between EN time and JP time since she lives in JP.

IRyS subs:
Before Debut: 275k
Lost 5k subs a few minutes after stream started. 270k
Post Debut: 291k

>91k max for debut
>didn't reach 300k by the end of the stream
I am disappoint

>>6376236
>Someone who's less lazy could go pull up a graph of how her sub numbers flux'd through the debut.
This is hard to do because YouTube doesn't update that stuff automatically.

>>6376321
Mori can draw and make MV, but she seldom does all by herself in a single song .

>Nijicucks already trying to make her seem like a failure
They can't better themselves so they're trying to drag other people down. Pathetic.

>>6376766
yeah sure and if you take the pills the doctor gave you those "nijicucks" will disappear

Watch as she stalls from now on
DESIGN. MATTER.
Subaru didn't grow until she got a new costume
Nene only inclined after her new design
Which stupid fuck decided to hire an artist with this artstyle

>>6377132
explain shit like kuzuha or tsukino mito then

>>6377132
She could ask for any prominent JP artist to design her model, but seems like it was cover's choice since she didn't include Guilty Crown as her favorite anime or any anime that had Shiru character design

>>6377318
You are fucking crazy if you think white haired dude and himecut isnt a popular design

>>6377318
Both Kuzuha and Mito have a shit ton of outfits as well as nice easy to consume and draw designs. Tracksuit vamp and schoolgirl. Not sure what you mean

>>6376711
We are talking about singing dude. Not making an mv

>>6377318
What are you even trying to say? Their designs suck and they're neither well known or growing. Not like designs matter to them though, they're Nijisanji, they can't become successful because the brand is holding them back.

>>6377633
>>6376321: She can "produce" and rap.
I was not the first one who mentioned other than singing

>>6377464
white haired red eyes is generic and Mito has other samefaces in niji

>>6377820
lol

>>6376766
Take your meds tribalcuck.

>>6377971
Yet they have more subs than 99% of their coworkers

https://twitter.com/rariemonn765/status/1414044289357606919
Holy shit she looks way better in the demo
I think there's a problem with her setup. Botan had a similar issue with her mouth on debut

>>6377552
kuzuha literally only uses the tracksuit

>>6378599
Oh holy hell wtf?
That's night and day, definitely sounds like the setup was scuffed then.

>>6377318
Their designs are good.

>>6377964
My point is she's not a Vsinger. She can "produce" and rap. Not sing. Sure you can add all the other stuff you want to add but she's not a singer. She's better off featuring Irys or someone else to sing for her.

>>6378599
Looks the same to me, just less compression artifacts from Youtube.

>>6378599
everyone looks way better in these demos

>>6378777
You're actually right. But I still don't think his design is particularly bad or filtering, it's kind of generic and people seem to love it.

>>6379245
yeah his default design is simple but it's not bad and the art is good which is a plus. for male design you generally can't go wrong with simple ikemen looking character.

IRyS just got 300k sub now.

>>6380068
307k now, it just keeps going up

>>6379206
>everyone

>>6381568
That can't be real can it?

>>6381974
jesus

>>6382023
310k now, she's getting 1000 new subs almost every minute

so what vid got deleted

>>6381974
I just don't understand why they won't give her a normal model

>Ame just dropped an original song out of nowhere
WHAT THE FUCK
I wonder how it'll do

>>6382023
>doubting the power of hololive
Ngmi

>Amelia Watson has sung more original English songs than the Vsinger dedicated to that

>>6382217
It's not an original song, it's a shitpost

>>6382297
cope

>>6381568
People are buying whatever she's selling. She does have a certain charm to her. One anon said that she can she fit right in as a EN Gen 2 and I believe that. I would listen to her song merely because she was very relatable when she spoke. She talked like a normal Asian person. I like that. No guhs nor cutesy voice (Not that there is anything wrong with those. Just not my type for an ENvtuber. It cringes me out).She does need some help with her 2D setup. Something is off with it. I think her halfdevil half angel may allude to her being half-asian. She sounds like someone that has an American dad but has not stayed in NA before unlike Coco that is also a hafu that grew up in GA but moved back to JP.

>>6382168
311k now. She'll have 400k by her next stream at this rate.

>>6382359
She was nervous but I think she looks very promising. Clearly a huge otaku, loves Hololive, good singing ability, can speak Japanese for potential collabs with the JP branch. If she doesn't go down the dark path of e-celeb simping that Ollie and Mori did then she will be the best EN Holo by far.

>>6373311
Mori's songs got so high on the charts because they were either mostly or partially in english for her debut ep. RIP itself did a lot of the legwork there, and with an all jpop ep, I dont see IRyS topping charts. theres a reason you see so many people buthurt about the lack of english songs

>>6382322
Your mother is a whore

>>6382550
>theres a reason you see so many people buthurt about the lack of english songs
Buddy a dozen or so people on these boards grumbling does not constitute anything, if you're using the board to guage general market trends you might actually be retarded.

>>6382550
They're all retards who shouldn't be watching Hololive in the first place. Vtubers are for people who are into otaku culture, people who watch dubbed anime need not apply

>>6382479
She was the most well spoken out of all the EN debuts. She paced herself well and have a nice vocab on her. Her otaku level probably extends to books too. Since she is a Vsinger, it means her content will be more restricted. Her songs will be chosen for her. If she is the 100M vod view utaite then that means she won't be involved in the production. I wonder what is the profit cut for her.

>>6382641
>>6382550
You can judge from Twitter. A lot of JP peeps and EOPs are waiting for her EP. It's still in trending in JP with 42k tweets

>>6382183
her karaoke probably?

>>6382641
The board is irrelevant, an english speaking song sits at double the engagement of the next closest original hololive song. the rest of Mori's songs scrape the upper limit of numbers achieved by hololive. it makes more business sense and makes more sense in general to have her do english songs

>>6383336
Then explain reflect and kiara's songs

>>6383336
Has nothing to do with the song being in English.

>>6383336
Reflect has the same growth as RIP did and it's in Japanese. Cope.

>>6383644
>>6383589
reflect has the benefit of being on the channel of the industry leader, so while it may not be in english, it does get a buff from it's international audience. Kiara's songs are unaffected by the language she does it in because theyre all in chicken voice. I would be willing to bet a substantial amount of money that if Gura does a song in english that isnt pop it will do RIP numbers.
theres a reason that kpop does so much better than jpop on the international stage, incorporation of english words and structure does more numbers

>>6383900
Dis nigga watches dubbed anime

>>6376171
More than half of her day one subs showed up.
She had like 140k or something, so that's like around 2/3.
I think people, who subbed day two or later, are more likely to watch VODs or clips instead of live streams.
EN1 had around 90k day one subs and 60k live viewers if I recall correctly.

>>6377132
>Nene only inclined after her new design
oh for fucks sake i litteraly always tell people that the redesign did barely anything and even had graph anon get the hard data for it. her incline started months before that, got a small peak from the redesign but most of those viewers left shortly after and everything else is just her natural growth

>>6384823
all en vtubers are basically dubbed anime

>>6385458
And all EN vtubers are complete shit. Coincidence?

>>6383900
She is using english words and even sentences on her music. I can also say you are full of bull because Mori for one has never had a song in full English. Her latest song Red only has 5.6M compared to Ghost that has 5.2M. Both songs were released 1month apart which means their progress is the same. The quality of the muisc is what matters. Irys's EP sounds like it has production value.

I just woke up. Did IRYS Not break through 100K like I SAID she won't. Where's my crown? Where's the Nigger who was arguing otherwise? Numberfagging has really declined huh.

>>6367716
How many times must I keep saying this. The Character Design matters. And IRYS looks like absolute garbage. No one will care enough to show up. Because Clips and highlights will be enough for most people.

Just let the thread die. The retard is awake now. No point in keeping it alive.

>>6383900
the reason kpop surpassed jpop internationally is because kpop companies used social media properly and were actively trying to promote kpop idols and groups to other countries, none of which can be said for jpop acts.

damn their average goes up if I include mayuzumi's 1 stream last month.

If Irys really is gonna be Azki V2 then live viewers during regular streams shouldn’t matter all that much to her.

But that design of hers is something you either get used to or dislike forever

>>6386120
is that the secret? just have one (1) very hyped up stream?

>>6385916
The bilibili bug nigga has shown himself. What's wrong Zhang? Did IRYS failing to beat Coco's record threaten your very large ego. Shame. I pity you honestly.

>>6386120
Is this an average live viewer thing? Because why is Mayuzumi there if he's skewing the results this hard when Fuwa's not even there after his 3D

>>6386120
A win is a win. Nijisis...we finally won...

>>6385916
How bug like of you.

>>6385916
You are Zhang. I'm sure you're also the graph nigger as well.

>>6386275
yeah, top 5 peak views. I'm just testing if I include fewer streams like mayuzumi and shion (1 stream last month) or not.

>>6386298
NijiMEN run this joint

>>6367706
This. IRYS will be Anya tier for all her days in hololive.

>>6386120
>Pekora/Marine, Pekora/Marine, Pekora/Marine
>Kuzuha/Toya, Kuzuha/Toya, Kuzuha/Toya
>Mito/Lize, Mito/Lize, Mito/Lize
How many viewers will they get if they collab?

>>6386436
imo it's okay to use your judgement, like i personally would have passed on including mayuzumi this time because he only streamed once and while it wasn't a 3d reveal it was still a special and very anticipated stream. just me though and i get how this can sound unfair.

>>6366530
Because your faggotry made you disillusioned to the fact that this was a debut stream and debut streams generally don't do that well. Unless you're Botan of course.

>>6386500
Kuzuha admitted he's too retarded to understand what Kenmochi is saying half the time.

>>6386500
we need a rap battle rematch

>>6386436
Not sure what Shion's deal is, if that isn't anywhere near her regular numbers you should omit it but if it's close then leave it, Mayuzumi's numbers are way too inflated due to his lore event and long time without streaming, he never gets those numbers regularly so it'll mess up the average and make it look like there's a massive incline

>>6386554
>>6386797
I ended up removing both

Anon was completely right
>under 100k then immediate shadowban
Hats off to whoever said that, it was spot on.
>pic related
Look at that hard ceiling right from the start. As soon as it touched 90K it flattened

>>6382209
The shark must be handicapped else she would take over the world.

>>6362085
Isn't the top one got his 3D debut?
Is the website still counting the total SC he received?

highest:74804

A-Anya...

>>6388114
it was 60k-70k then shadow ban.
People were predicting less than 100k, 80k was the generous conservative estimate. 150k were what the retards predicted.

>>6389485
>IRyS just reached 339k
Anya was not in last place for 5 hours since IRyS debut

>>6389485
Already passed her, EN buff is huge.

>>6389807
What’s the growth rate? Will end up catching up very quickly with AZKI

>>6389604
I predicted 150k+ because she had 275k subs. I mean why would you sub if youre not going to watch her debut. HoloEN1 debuted pre-100k subs and thats 80% subs/audience ratio that time.

>>6390071
meant to post this pic

>>6389604
>>6390071

100k anons
>>6309996
>>6310418
>>6310612
>>6311306
>>6292898
>>6231971
>>6232192
>>6232288
>>6232305
>>6233448
>>6250313
>>6250702
>>6254638
>>6251027
>>6251021
>>6251201
>>6253211


less than 100k
>>6293025
>>6254076
>>6250731
>>6250790
>>6251026
>>6251179

>>6390223
One of these is not like the others

>>6390071
>actually calculated the same max viewers I did
What wizardry is this?

>>6390279
made two mistakes when typing the numbers
>6254076
>>6250476
>6251021
was supposed to be
>6251027

>>6389604
huh, guess we should be including the algorithm shadow bans for close to debut chuubas

it doesn't seem like the established ones get shadowbanned much anymore

>>6390071
Did no one take into account the live view bug?
The VOD now has over 720k views which is only 140k fewer than Kiara's debut VOD was able to accumulate in 10 months.
You can't honestly believe than IRyS only had 91k max live viewers with that many VOD views when Kiara's debut had 70k live and 10 months.

>>6390515
it ain't a bug its a feature. If your not on the tab watching the stream then YT AI doesn't count you. Vod Views after a stream as a test for CCV is unreliable because you don't know how many minutes they watched before they tuned out then closed it.

>>6390623
VOD views are a good test if you compare to VODs before the bug existed.
There isn't any reason to believe that viewer churn suddenly increased especially when the stream was shadow banned.

>>6388114
Veteran numberfags like me are never wrong. Bilibili-chama and graph-chama are in over their heads and need to be humbled.

>>6390748
You predicted 60k: >>6250476, that's as far from what happened than the people predicting 120k

>>6390071
Because you're a fucking newfag who can't use his brain. Without a good design Most people will NOT WATCH. Why do you think costume streams draw in a big number?

Flare pulling out all the stops for this streams, including announcing it on Reddit
>predictions?

>>6390797
That's not me nigger. My prediction was that it will not break a 100K. No debut in the history of hololive has broken through that number besides Botan. IRYS has a shit design and terrible rigging. Of course most people will end up settling with the clips. That is all.

>>6390868
Here is the schedule streams around it. Her singing streams peak around 13, 14k and this one shouldn't be any different

>>6390868
It'll be 14-15k peak like most of her milestone karaokes. I wouldn't say Flare is pulling out all the stops since she always posts on reddit. She's one of the most active members on the sub.

>>6358427
I expect nothing less from Kamitsubaki

>>6390899
I'll give you the "only a great design could attract huge numbers" bit. I remember Botan debut and not only her design is great (gave an aura of superiority and leadership) but she made some sort of PV before debut (or during?) that was four parallel universes beyond what any other member ever did.

Made me laugh even harder about Kanata power point presentation, WHAT WAS KANATA EVEN THINKING?! I've seen 6th grade presentations with more flow and better slides.

Anyway, you were right and Botan was an isolated case because of her design. Considering this a minor kneeling

>>6390959
>She's one of the most active members on the sub.
Really? I don't do Reddit and I thought she didn't even had any account there until recently.

>>6390966
its really crazy how coco turned gen 4's early mishaps like the powerpoint debut and watame's unreliable internet into charm points instead of strikes against newbie streamers

>>6391021
Yeah, she truly pulling her whole gen upward.

>>6390987
lol not only just english posts on reddit, she translates her announcement tweets into english and tweets it in addition to her regular JP tweets. Flare tries hard to appeal to EOPs. Kinda paying off because she gets more clips now than before when everyone only clipped her genmates.

>>6390899
Was Botan and Lamy. Porka was close like 97k

>>6372087
Anon.. subscribe numbers are secondary at best for vsingers. Album and single sells matter most for them. It's weird to put the same numberfag standard to vsingers.

Numbers isn't everything senpai

>>6391285
you're in the numbers thread retardchama

>>6390515
She had 78k in prechat and hardcapped at 91k, somehow retards accept Youtube shadowbanning her but not the live viewer bug also at play.

>>6391285
>”Numbers isn't everything senpai”, he timidly says in the NUMBERS THREAD

>>6391461
It’s not that people won’t accept but that
>it is not a bug
YouTube used to count viewers one way. After December 1st 2020 it started counting some other way. It’s not a bug, it’s a deliberate choice

i woke up to watch her debut, searched for irys hololive on youtube, and the only stream i got was some seaniggers live reacting

>>6391021
She basically saved her gen from being labelled HoloFailure