/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://vt.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>>64118497
With a homo reference in it?
Yeah good fucking luck Kevin!

Phase Connect in March
Pippa: 2528
Tenma: 598
Shiina: 373
Erina: 270
Airi: 249
Lia: 245
Panko: 192
Uruka: 182
Reimilia: 134
Rie: 130
MEDIAN: 247

Phase Connect in November
Pippa: 2756
Tenma: 1031
Lia: 725
Dizzy: 710
Shiina: 644
Uruka: 599
Panko: 540
Airi: 535
Erina: 417
Jelly: 386
Ember: 366
Rie: 329
Remilia: 283
MEDIAN: 540

>>64118493
Some people still can't accept that they are the demise of their oshis' career.

/#/ is a Vshojo and Stars thread now

>>64118498
Recent clip numbers
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>>64118518
Filipinx are raiding this thread

>>64118497
kek first demi, now kevincow

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY*
>73,070: Mio (Hololive)
>50,103: Suisei (Hololive)
>38,809: Subaru (Hololive)
>35,368: Marine (Hololive)
>32,787: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,126: Ange (Nijisanji)
>24,998: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>22,026: Shion (Hololive)
>20,286: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>19,829: Noel (Hololive)
>16,914: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,818: Beni (VSPO)
>13,447: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,784: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,313: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,062: Astel (Holostars)
>11,214: Botan (Hololive)
>11,127: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,020: Ars (Nijisanji)
>10,924: Korone (Hololive)
>10,760: Bae (Hololive)
>10,666: Noel (Hololive)
>10,545: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,106: Fubuki (Hololive)

IMschizo, do you really wanna waste another thread seething about mousey? Touch some grass and get a life please.

64118538
>Still trying

I love how saplings are still coping on CCV when Bae can literally get 15k by getting raided twice. CCV is just meaningless nowadays.

>>64118538
Some 'people' want their oshis to grow but also despise tourists.

>>64118518
That a girl doing loli gfe was one of the top earners for Cover and we're currently missing that niche. CMON YAGOO LET HER TRY AGAIN PLEASE I BEG YOU

>>64118545
>now

>>64118518
Reddit sub means nothing

>>64118599
>DECEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 57,513 - Birthday Reverse Totsumachi
2) Hololive (Hololive) - 80,756 - HoloX 3D Live
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 54,582 - League of Legends vs k4sen (w/ Shaka)
4) Marine (Hololive) - 82,999 - Sankisei Game of Life
5) Miko (Hololive) - 63,915 - The Exit 8
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 74,623 - Sololive Free Portion
7) Mio (Hololive) - 73,070 - Anniversary 3D Live

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Hololive, Kuzuha, Marine, Miko, Mio, Pekora

>>64118601
Jokes on you
IMFAG gets a boner everytime you gave him You's

>>64118567
No one is raiding the thread because the thread is full of schizos and retards anyway

>>64118518
kevin is pathetic

>>64118630
>sour grapes

>>64118623
That's the new cope for when Rrat stops getting numbers from rpgs?

>>64118629
yes, back then # still hated IM and Stars

So this is the power of vertical stream
Woah

>>64118654
>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
243x: Hololive
75x: Nijisanji
11x: Indie
6x: Neo-Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
72x: Pekora
30x: Miko
22x: Marine
14x: Hololive, Kuzuha
11x: Subaru
10x: Nijisanji
9x: Suisei
8x: Toya
7x: Aqua
6x: Hal, Mio
5x: Iroha, Yashiro
4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Koyori, Lamy, Leos, Lui, NeruMero, Okayu, Shiina, Towa
3x: Flare, Fubuki, Shion, Watame
2x: Aki, Botan, Chloe, Fuwamoco, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Maimoto, Mel, Noel, Polka, Salome, Tsukasa
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Haachama, Hibari, Himawari, Hololive English, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kobo, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Luna, Met, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Nene, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, ROF-MAO, Ryushen, Youko

>>64118626
Well they would happily choose to chase away the tourists and let their growth stagnant if it means their oshis will never change her content. It is pathetic actually and one of the main reason holoEN cannot walk out of the shadow of holoJP.

>>64118682
>hated

IronMouse won

Guys, I just figured out how to beat IMfag. Just don't give him (You)s. It's that easy.

>>64118601
Your Mousey is as much of a whore as those Holos you seethe about

>>64118669
Reddit sub doesn't get you any award, does it?

its over shioribros

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *

>12/7 DAILY TALLY
20,286: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
10,760: Baelz (Hololive)
8,528: Bijou (Hololive)
8,058: Mori (Hololive)
6,882: Mori (Hololive)
6,240: Nerissa (Hololive)
5,697: Fauna (Hololive)
5,603: Kiara (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 2023
1) Selen (Nijisanji) - 11,895 - Birthday Concert
2) Amelia (Hololive) - 12,143 - Unarchived Karaoke
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,827 - Karaoke
4) Selen (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - Apex Tournament Announcement (w/ Regis & Axel)
5) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,293 - FuwaMoco Morning
6) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,662 - The Exit 8
7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 20,286 - FuwaMoco Morning

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: FuwaMoco
2x: Selen
1x: Amelia, Bijou

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
21p: FuwaMoco
13p: Selen
7p: Bijou
6p: Amelia, Baelz
4p: IRyS
3p: Fauna
2p: Shiori
1p: Mori

>>64118682
idk about vshojo but before ENhomos we used to be able to laugh at Robert or Ogaman jokes without sperging out

>>64118735
Asmongold my beloved...

>>64118703
Because those whores who collab outside are MUCH more creative than the Holo whores who don't

>>64118722
Uh.. please don't badmouth Nerissa, Kiara and Mori's friend like that

>>64118535
Pippa +9%
Tenma +72%
Shiina +73%
Erina +54%
Airi +115%
Lia +196%
Panko +181%
Uruka +229%
Reimilia +111%
Rie +153%

>>64118518
If people here aren't seething than IMschizo and some shitposters will just force it instead.

>>64118712
that only works until he has a melty and starts spamming the thread anyway

>>64118745
Fuck off globalfag

>>64118740
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
263x: Hololive
72x: Nijisanji
5x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
34x: FuwaMoco
32x: Fauna
28x: Mori, Mumei
25x: Gura
19x: IRyS
16x: Bijou
15x: Baelz, Ina, Kronii
14x: Mysta
13x: Amelia
12x: Kiara
9x: Vox
6x: Selen
5x: Nerissa
4x: Pomu, Ren, Shu
3x: Hololive English, Luca, Nina, Shiori
2x: Alban, Doppio, Finana, Fulgur, Ike, Millie, Wilson
1x: Aia, Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Kyo, Luxiem, Octavio, Petra, Regis, Rexford, Roca, Rosemi, Scarle, Sonny, Vesper, Victoria

>Bae ended stream without raiding Kronii
Kronii is out of cripple tally today...

>>64118712
I will always give him (you)s because it makes (you) seethe

>>64118628
Rushia wasn’t Loli though she was just flat like Shuten Douji/Aoi Yuuki.

>>64118707
Oh no no no youre gonna trigger the IMschizo and make him shit up another thread again.

>>64118788
Well, then just keep ignoring him until he fucks up and posts something reportable and gets sent on vacation

>>64118735
https://youtu.be/67D8OepozJo

>>64118790
>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
299p: Fauna, FuwaMoco
238p: Mumei
224p: Mori
190p: IRyS
175p: Ina
159p: Baelz
149p: Bijou
134p: Gura
124p: Kronii
112p: Kiara
105p: Mysta
104p: Amelia
77p: Vox
75p: Luca
60p: Nerissa
44p: Selen
40p: Shiori
37p: Shu
29p: Pomu
24p: Nina
21p: Ren
20p: Fulgur
19p: Enna, Ike
18p: Millie
17p: Sonny
15p: Hololive English, Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Doppio, Elira, Kotoka, Wilson
9p: Petra, Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rexford, Rosemi
5p: Aia, Flayon, Luxiem, Octavio, Roca, Scarle, Victoria
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Claude, Crimzon, Goldbullet, Hakka
2p: Meloco
1p: Kunai, Maria, Shinri, Pippa, Poko, Reimu

4 hours to hit 5k doryaaaaa

>>64118735
Asmon having a boner while watching it
Hes just pretending to be offended

>>64118772
Implying that they're not whores either

>>64118712
Just post the T.Rex and give yourself 30 (You)s...

>>64118815
>I always samefag
We know

>>64118809
BASED

>>64118815
I support IMfag more than these weirdos in here, at least he was fun

>>64118628
so you're saying biboo needs to start doing loli gfe, unrelated but i think she'll find some good use out of vertical streaming, with her mind on tiktok and all

>>64118766
Actually no. Look at Mori. She is way more successful that the "non whores" who never did outside collab.

>>64118735
>Shiori doubles down and roasts Henmama
I don't know that seems pretty based to me

>>64118830
Yeah, so loli.

>>64118846
Yeah, no shit

>>64118853
The fact that the spammer didn't get banned is proof that this thread is a lawless shit hole with no mods

QUEEN

>>64118853
okay.

>>64118862
>We
Who are we?

>>64118721
Are you sure about that?

>>64118703
Walled garden 'can' be viable if they have enough bodies. Barely having a dozen and staying isolationist is a sure way to be stagnant.

Love to see Bae inclining arc. Let's see how far she will go

>>64118873
Maybe she'd actually get SC's if she did gfe.

>>64118879
Retard.

>>64118866
Awwww, you're just jealous because I didn't give you 30 (you)s

I'm just glad that we can finally admit that we love IronMouse /here/ without being bullied by Holofags...
I want to thank the Jurard poster for the support.

>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>64118895
If you want the lazy janny to start working you better say something bad about Fauna and saplings.

>>64118875
>EN#8
>Even her music has been going downhill ever since she started interacting with VShojo openly
Uhhhhhh

There's a new king on the block

>>64118875
The unsuccessful whores who don't collab outside of their walled garden are just as much of a whore as those successful whores who do collab outside of their walled garden

I hate Fauna with every fibre of my being and I wish she'd fuck off and never return. She doesn't deserve any good that comes her way and she does deserve every bad. She is a phony, everything about her is fake, and it's depressing that her fans are actually too retarded to see that.

>whore whore whore whore whore
truly SEA hours

>>64118538
You do realize that many/most JP e-celebs and their fans hate Vtubers, right? Or take a gander at how the Granblue community reacted when Cygames announced the Holocollab. And on that note, since you're samefagging, find me an open mythfag who wasn't an e-celeb. VA, actor, game dev, similar standards as JP, gimmie something here. Because that might be a viable path for branching out, rather than the well-documented clusterfuck of dramafagging called e-celebs.

>>64118922
No it a strategy that can never work. Look at sankisei. They are doing outside collabs as soon as they are able to do that.

>>64118963
>Already close to sub 3view
So this is the reason theres alot of filipinx today

>>64118975

>>64118902
(you)

>>64118927
She couldn’t hit 5k without raids anon.

people are really gonna shit on IM when the lethal company spam ends isnt it?

Why this thread dum dum

>>64118922
Blame Cover and Yagoo for being insane faggots who thought a homoEN is what everyone wanted. If we're lucky and Jap has any amount of actual control over the branch an EN4 will debut soon, hopefully on the first quarter of the next fiscal year.

>>64118975
There we go, but you need to go more extreme if you want to get the janny's attention.

>>64118942
Your slutty mouse will be insulted just as much as the Whorelolive girls. Everybody gets shit on equally in this dumpster fire of a thread because jannies don't give a fuck

>>64119040
You will dream of IronMouse tonight and then you will love her.

>>64119008
So what? She got 8k and that's a fact.

Another easy sweep from ironmouse

>>64118992
>They are doing outside collabs as soon as they are able to do that.
How many of those were business collabs, and how many weren't?

>>64118902
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>>64119016
cun cun make me cum cum

>>64118527
Mr.Cow try an akasupa next time.

>Yet another Splatoon practice stream with Azki and Marine at the moment
>There are upcoming practice streams for the GIS and Oculus team.

WTF these aren't even vsakyou Apex scrims. There is no reason to do basically daily practice streams. These girls are taking the squid game way too seriously.

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>>64118991
>You do realize that many/most JP e-celebs and their fans hate Vtubers, right?
Yes, just like western streamers fans and gamers hate vtubers too. The fact that the JPs can grow despite the hate means that they are way better talents than ENs.

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>>64119000
>>64119069
>2min apart
don't be distracted by shitposts and just post on cooldown..

>>64118992
No? They did outside collab because they were small and there weren't much people inside holo to collab with.

>>64119065
The only thing Ironmouse is sweeping is her rotting womb

>>64119094
EN will be save if gooba starts streaming regularly
But... you know...

>>64119068
And what is the difference between them? Also Marine's seiyuu interview is not a business collab btw.

>>64118992
Funny you said that when HoloJP got to where they are with walled garden strat, and the top HoloEN girls (who are also top EN VTuber girls in general) don't even collab outside of the group

>>64118991
>You do realize that many/most JP e-celebs and their fans hate Vtubers, right?
Name three.
>Or take a gander at how the Granblue community reacted when Cygames announced the Holocollab
What, in the fucking /vg/ thread?

>>64119055
Thanks, now I can dream about Ironmouse suffocating in a carbon monoxide chamber

So the countdown live should be at least 250k since eceleb collabs have grown JP right?

>>64119148
Mori did a lot of outside collab and she had a lot of clout, more than Gura even, nowadays.

>>64118902
/you/

Anons, at what time do we start /nijisanji b/lack again?

>>64119158
Why are chumkeks like this?

>>64119195
Niji is dead already
Vshojo is dying too

>>64119183
>ENshart
>an ESL
Of course.

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>>64118992
When did Hololive explode in popularity again? Care to enlighten us?

>>64119027
Yep debuting homos instead of EN3 last year was stupid af.

I love IronMouse so much!

>>64119223
>F*ench
>Calling anyone ESL

Laplus is my oshi.

>>64119146
Business collabs are done professionally in professional environment, likely vetted and monitored carefully by the management. Seiyuu are professionals. Most of sankisei's recent "outside" collabs fall into this category.
On the other hand, you have La+ who collabs with outsiders for fun and her popularity suffered for it.

>>64119218
IM is triving in burst and then slowsdown again but the rest of the branch is stagnant.

Cunny posting doko

>>64119197
I dream about how much I want to stab Gura in her lazy head all the time, anon. That goes without saying

>>64119188
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>>64119263
What

>>64119260
>On the other hand, you have La+ who collabs with outsiders for fun and her popularity suffered for it.
Meanwhile Mukirose grew significantly with the "non professional" collab in Ark. You are not convincing anyone.

>>64118902
[you]

>>64119305
>p-please let us leech off of hololive
Fuck off beggar

>>64119276
busy giving himself (You)s

>>64118902
{you}

>>64119239
"Stupid af" is a severe understatement. It was one of, if not the single worst decision Cover ever took in their entire history

>>64118902
not the result i expected desu

>>64119082
It's to build up hype anon.

>>64119263
>branch

>>64119289
And yet she is the ambassdor, had a sololive, and all around loved by her fans and everyone else who collabed with her. Even Kiara forgave her for lying on stream.

>>64118703
There is no mainstream growth for them. See Bae performing at that RIOT concert. The girls are completely aware of how niche this hobby is and they're comfortable with it. It's not the fans that are holding them back.

>>64118902
"you"

>>64118599
>73,070: Mio (Hololive)
>50,103: Suisei (Hololive)
>38,809: Subaru (Hololive)
>35,368: Marine (Hololive)
>32,787: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,026: Shion (Hololive)
>20,286: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
HOLY MOGGED.

Queen Sweep

>>64119349
it is one since they techcnially made VSjp

https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1733042332247994602

>>64119365
Told you!
Doggos are 1st Army!

>>64119142
Yeah, looking at the graph that graph anon put out, it really is true that no Gura = no number. Even on the day that she went out of the woodwork and shilled Sendai, the other holoENs had good numbers too because of that stream.

>>64119263
English reps. But yeah Ironmouse has buff periods but everyone else in Vshojo doesn't really grow at all or get much mindshare. Even than with Mouse (and Twitch Vtubers for that matter) seem to have hit a hard cap in terms of viewership growth. Opera Aura's 76k CCV debut was the highest viewership a Vtuber ever got on Twitch meanwhile I think Ironmouse has only ever achieved 45k and she's never been able to get that high again.

>>64118902
«you»

>>64119369
Hololive kneels at her presence

>>64119362
ehhh... true until proven otherwise

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>>64119344
I'm just one schizo. Give me a break

>>64119305
Only during Ark streams. Her numbers crashed back down outside of it.
It's like saying that since SQUAD got good numbers during their collabs, Holo and Homo should just keep collabing

what's with the pop-up ads

>>64119365
>teletubbies bots

>>64119396
cant grow on twitch anymore and VS is too afraid of youtube low numbers they will never try to make anything with their channels.
A bunch of streamers are now multistreaming and most of VS is just wasting the chance.

>>64118902
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>>64119362
>they're comfortable with it
This is the problem. They are just coasting rn. Meanwhile it was a niche of a niche in Japan too but everyone worked hard to build up the ecosystem.

>>64119396
C-connor, please stream with me again to get my numbers up!

>>64119305
nta but did the vcr ark tourists stay?

>>64119369
where is the bed?

>>64118902
/you/

>>64119481
They did. Look at Aki's average and compare them to the time before the Ark arc.

>>64119305
>Mukirose grew significantly
post graphs

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Why is her mother visiting her now if she's going to be spending like a month with her parents in the very near future

>>64119505
Is this the part where we pretend a 9k collab with Marine is good even though we shit on EN for doing better?

>>64119480
a couple helping eachother out is a bad thing now? poor unicorns in shambles

Jannies just gave up?

>>64119348
>she is the ambassdor
Even Ollie is an ambassador
>had a sololive
Sure, this is true, I will give her this
>and all around loved by her fans and everyone else who collabed with her
Doesn't this apply to pretty much every Holo members?

>>64119534
God I want to impregnate her so bad

>>64118902
~you~

>>64119557
>Doesn't this apply to pretty much every Holo members?
>Kronii

>>64119534
Have you literally never heard a girl give fake excuses before, really?

>>64118902
$you

>>64119549
Told you that you need to say something really bad about saplings for them to get to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC79I_4FQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC79I_4FQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC79I_4FQQ

Interesting content ...

>>64119549
https://www.4channel.org/feedback
Remember theyre paid to do their job

>>64118902
+you+

I would be focusing on rebuilding her agency, if I was her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOjv-zB6vJ0

>>64119600
People like to pretend that Fauna isn't a whore or a liar. Wish they'd wake the fuck up because she's a stupid fucking cunt who should fucking suffer.

>>64119326
>no argument
>"f-fuck off beggar!"

>>64119615
UNITY bros... we eating good!

>>64118902
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>>64119615
Shes gonna re-watch it?

>>64119609
>begging for SapGODS to save the thread

>>64119362
They are never going to get any significant "mainstream" growth in Western market. Neither will any VTuber - IM included since we've been talking about her awards. That's how Western culture is. Stop having false hope with "mainstream growth" unless you want them to throw away their identities
>>64119472
I said it in previous thread as well, but JP is a lot more open to anime-related stuffs and idols than the West.

Viva la ratona de metal

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>>64119671
>novelites will watch this soon
walled garden schizos.. our narratives are failing

>>64119600
I expect better from Fauna I suppose

>>64118902
you

Reminder that Fauna couldn't even hit the real tally today and her subhuman fans will still pretend she's better than FuwaMoco

>>64119238
During Sankisei? With them not doing outside collab? Is that what you want me to say?

Also by the way hololive (40) kept inclining after that based on the graph despite all the outside collabs that you hated includong the Pekora - Hikakin collabs. Pekora did a nijiholo gbf collab too. Not to mention multiple outside collabs by Marine. If you really think about it, it is not about the collabs or wall garden, it is about the quality of the talents.

>>64118902
/you/

>>64119305
Where's the growth? Can you show a chart or graph?

>>64119505
It's the same, retard. You're welcome to prove otherwise by actually providing numbers.

>>64119734

>>64119615
?? She's a day late

>>64118999
I was promised a garden, there isn’t even a hint of a bush in this image

Fauna's "brother" will give her a hard time on Christmas.

I see sisters are still feeling the burn from that selen tourney shitheap lmao

>>64119615
imma watch it for her reaction on cunny rail winning the award

>>64119710
>The most pathetic fanbase for the weakest Holo who struggles to get 4k without overlap is going to watch an award show after everyone knows who the winners are
I don't think the 500 people who'll bother to watch this stream will change their opinions much

>>64119754
She's an only child, she's talked about this.

>>64119754
>only on Christmas

>>64119758
Wheres the fucking hype for the tourny anyways its tomorrow.

>>64119665
>Stop having false hope with "mainstream growth" unless you want them to throw away their identities
People were thinking Japanese electronics were crap back in the days too. Mentality can be changed over time. The important thing is to have a will to work hard towards it.

>>64119737
>If you really think about it, it is not about the collabs or wall garden, it is about the quality of the talents.
NTA but finally you realized it.

>trying this hard
Fauna antis really are the most pathetic schizos on /#/.

>>64118902
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>>64119737
>hololive (40)
>pekora
>marine
>pekora
>marine
Smartest JPnig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q7HxdTPnF4

>>64119615
why is she doing this so fucking random

>>64119737
This. At the end of the day outside collabs only gives exposure, it's a streamer's content that makes viewers stay. The nijigirls simply revert back to their old numbers with their usual content after the gbf collab. But of course no matter how good your content is you still can't grow without exposure, the trick is not to spam them to the point you become someone else's accessory.

Oh yeah right Ina Live tomorrow

>>64118902
*you*

>>64119802
>People were thinking Japanese electronics were crap back in the days too.
Because it was crap. It took them a decade or so to improve it to parity

>>64119615
Actually going to be the first holoen 3 view stream mark my words

>>64119807
I am talking about this the entire time. It is just that some people still refuse to accept the fact that holoEN is comprised of generally more inferior talents compared to their JP counterparts.

>>64118902
"YOU"

>>64119853
Exactly. HoloEN need to improve themselves for the audience to recognize them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7Sg2vn8JA

>>64119826
She only watched part of it and because tomorrow's group stream is a single POV on FWMC's channel she wanted to at least do something to make up for her not technically having a stream tomorrow.

>>64118902
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>indefinite hiatus just in time for holidays
god damn.. imagine the amount of creampie(food) they'll have

This is all ignoring that JP can do massive tourist events that draw eyes with 3D lives and EN/ID largely can't

>>64118902
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>>64119884
But no Creator of the Year award for them though

>>64119896
Wait, which of the holoEN is not streaming until christmas?

>>64119754
what's the sibling status of holoEN members?
>lil bro shark
>ane'nis
>aneRyS
>lil sis Mori
>chimkin brother?
>Big bro Watson and lil bro Watson?
>Moom "sibling"
>FWMC FWMC
>Rissa (watch streams)

>>64118902
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>>64119911
What does that have to do with Nijisanji?

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give best kouhai some (you)s

>>64119817
Advent the eceleb worshiper gen, scientifically synthesized by Mori and Ollie in a lab (except the based FWMC of course)

>>64119924
Anerrat

>>64118902
_you_

>>64119861
Which JP counterpart? Akirose? Roboco? Matsuri? Laplus? Lui?

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>>64119802
I wouldn't say "never" but it isn't going to happen anytime soon. I'd expect manga and anime to reach mainstream status in the West way before VTubers do.
It's just hard to reach mainstream status when most of their audience just look at your VTuber models and consider those weird, cringy and / or childish. At least nips have culturally accepted that manga / anime stuffs are for all ages

>>64119924
Biboo and Shiori are only childs

>>64119811
>conveniently ignoring Mukirose as an example
Also many of them have better 3Dlive numbers compared to last year, and the average is still sky high meaning that everyone was inclining in 2023.

>>64119754
why are holoen pretending that they have a brother especially nerissa?

>>64119860
Im gonna be there no matter what
Gotta support my wife

>>64119942
Not even a clip watcher sasuga

>>64118902
You

>>64119959
anon, demon slayer single handedly outsold the entire comics industry

>>64119952
Top JPs. Pekora, Marine, Miko, Suisei.
EN isn't inferior to bottom JPs, but they are only around mid-tier HoloJPs (like Chloe, Lamy and such)

>>64118902
/you/

>>64119923
SNO

>>64118902
I hope you appreciate your 30 (you)s

>>64119952
>Akirose? Roboco? Matsuri? Laplus? Lui?
Yes. Their EN counterpart is Ame.

>>64119941
town bicycle

>>64119963
You still haven't actually posted proof for that btw, despite already being asked to.

Yet another day of grim numbers from irys

>>64119965
Nerissa straight up lives with her family in a big house (father, mother, little brother, 2 sisters, nieces, nephews)

>>64119989
A taco stand can outsell the entire US comics industry

>>64119963
>have better 3Dlive numbers
Something that EN doesn't get. Are you dumb?

>>64119941
Go back to your split

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>>64119884
COMPLETE CULTURAL VICTORY

>>64120012
>SNO
OHNONONONONONO
I THOUGHT THEY ARE CGDCT

MY HORN.... IT IS BREAKING

>>64120039
Anon?

>>64120054
just creampie girls doing creampie things..

>>64119923
fauna, shiori, and mumei

>>64119941
nasty whore

>>64119941
Sorry, but I only spam for obvious shitposts in an attempt to derail the whole thread and stop any coherent conversations from happening

>>64118902
#YOU#

>>64120039
That is one of the point too. The ENs never work for it. The JP girls organized the 3Dlive out of their own pocket as a way to give back to their fans. Meanwhile the EN girls just do a stream, maybe a karaoke or something, and then shamelessly promote their bday merch jist to milk their fans more without giving them anything special. COVID is not an excuse anymore by the way.

>>64119923
Fauna will be back Sunday or Monday, don't listen to those idiots.

>>64120086
I cant wait for Shiorin 3D
I dont think my Dick wouldbe able to handle it

>>64120080
Kek

>>64119884
updooting every comment that shits on nijisanji
I AM DOING MY PART OORAH

>>64120100
Based and yellowpilled.

>>64120100
This JPnig will also speak out of the other side of his mouth and say that EN don't deserve studio time and that Kiara is a whore for complaining that they won't get lives next year either.

>>64119941
should've won over Yuckynoshit

>>64120086
Shiori is a bit up in the air as there might be some zatsus to throw Novelites a bone while she's out.

>>64119989
Well, I have to first point out that that figure was DS's number in JP - which doesn't really say much about manga / anime mainstream status in the West.
Moreover, I hate to link ANN, but it's too long to quote nicely, so check this out (the figures initially came from ANN too)
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2021-05-26/fact-check-did-demon-slayer-really-outsell-all-of-american-comics/.173234

>>64120137
BASED BASED BASED

>>64119884
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>64120142
>Kiara is a whore for complaining
Not him but this part is true

>>64120196
>relies on her returns from her merchs
>2%

the amount of cognitive dissonance going on about Holojp in this thread has always cracked me up

if pekora started campaigning for trans rights you niggers would be saying EN is incompetent and can't seize the western woke zeitgeist for expansion unlike holojp's creative geniuses within a week

>>64120142
>putting words into my mouth
When did I ever say that?

So what triggers the schizo now?

>>64120247
Cute girls and Holo success

>>64120247
>FilipinxChubba is dipping to the path of 3view

>>64120216
>if
>if
>if
homosister talking point right here

>>64120196
>>64120214
THE MOST

https://twitter.com/Holoearth_EN/status/1733050134064435270
WHO

>>64120247
IM winning an award gave them a chance to shit on Holo

>>64119884
It just keeps going

>>64120263
>2.434%
POWERFUL SLAVE OWNER

>>64120218
You implied it when you pretty much called the ENs lazy whores for not doing 3D lives
>The ENs never work for it
Before you keep running your mouth, answer 2 questions: What do you think the length of the studio queue is?
When do you think Cover talents are generally allowed to start planning 3 lives?

>>64120142
why did Kiara congratulate Mouse but throw hololive under the bus?

>>64120216
>if pekora started campaigning for trans rights
Now you are just making up stuff and stupid hypothetical so that you can then talk about some stupid theory that you've made in your mind.

>>64120274
Somehow... Omega returned

>>64120274
>BLACK AVATAR
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>64120247
Not seething enough about Ironmouse so he'll just go schizo and respond to himself until someone bites.

>>64120274
ID4
>ID4
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>>64119924
>Rissa (watch streams)
thats kayfabe retard

>>64120285
Great work soldier with those updoots

>>64120274
Isn't that Mythra or whatever her name is?

>IMschizo gets deleted
>IMfag remains
uh.. based?

10 min in, what is the verdict?

>>64119431
Aki had a 2k incline last month, which for her is 50% growth, since VRC ark shut down. Whether they'll stick around forever is a different question, but she retained a good chunk of tourists so far.

>>64120336
I live to serve
Glory to Hololive

>>64120274
>KR1
KR1
>KR1
KR1

Did the jannie finally banned the Filipinx spammer?

>>64120296
>You implied it when you pretty much called the ENs lazy whores for not doing 3D lives
I am not implying that. I am saying exactly that. You were putting words in my mouth in the sense that I never called the relatively hardworking Kiara a whore and that EN doesn't deserve studio time.
Also
>studio queue
Not an excuse. They should book earlier.
>planning
That is the thing. The ENs don't even have a plan in the first place.

>>64120157
Shiori has made promises that she'll put out videos, shorts, zatsus, twitter spaces and do watchalongs of some show called moomin .
I wanna have some faith in her but yeah dunno if any of that will actually happen

Wait they still do Vtubers?

>>64120274
Holonigger...

>>64120370
>JP v EN
Go back sister

>>64120341
IMfags have the right to celebrate in the number thread because Ironmouse just got the best award in 2023. Let the IMfags have some fun until 2024.

>>64120376
KING

>>64120385
>no more argument
Your concession is accepted.

Where’s all this Fauna hate coming from? Why is there only a 1K gap between here and Bae now? Her break hasn’t even started yet?

>>64120394
You holofags don't deserve anything, I understand why China hates you.

>>64120394
>IMfags have the right to celebrate
show me the law

>>64120331
Damn I didn't know Nerissa was so good at kayfabe that she managed to hire 2 random women to pretend to be her sisters while also consistently faking reactions of different family members barging into her room to give her plates of food.

>>64120370
watch streams

Is this supposed to be a bigger deal than I thought?

>>64120274
Wasn’t she posted ages ago? It’s apart of Holoearth shit

>>64120162
well shit i've been played

>>64120350
Anon, she streamed sf6 last month, which we know is also a buff. Wait another month or two before coming to conclusions.

>>64120341
Wait IMschizo got punished for once?

>>64118535
So drawing a straight line and extrapolating from this trend, they're going to completely take over the industry in about a year or two?

>>64120370
>I'm not calling them lazy whores I'm just saying they don't bother to plan like a bunch of lazy whores!
Immaculate reasoning JPnig. I'm trying to work through your thought process here. If there was even an iota of thought going on here you'd answer those questions because they're extremely relevant. If the queue is 1 year, then they'd need to book before their 3D debuts. And if Cover doesn't generally allow booking before 3D debuts then they're fucked. If the queue is longer, then it probably starts before Japan even opened (remember ID had their debuts right after opening, it's only been a little over a year). Do you really think Cover would let them book when Japan isn't even open? Nevermind, you don't think. Because you're a JPnig that just regurgitate

>>64118922
>Walled garden 'can' be viable if they have enough bodies.
No, walled garden alone will kill your group
Need that, a box, and a pipeline to convert tourist into fans
HoloEN failed at at least 2 out of 3

>>64120434
Yagoo is now apologizing profusely to China so that they can finally ger back on b2.

>>64119884
Glory to Hololive

>>64120446
Nobody cares, where is her creator of the year award?

Noomba

>>64120429
>Why is there only a 1K gap between here and Bae now?
Bae has the luxury of frequently getting raided by Advent so the advent newfags see her and sub to her. Ignoring that, she's constantly collabing with JPs. Do ANY of these people end up watching her? No. But it still gives her subs. Fauna needs to branch out more even within EN if she's going to even attempt to catch up, which she won't.

>>64120123

Creator of the Year is like the equivalent of Oscars for streamers btw

>>64118535
Fuck off you dumb retard. Tenma has never averaged a 4view. Safe to say everything else is a lie.

>>64120446
It's EN 2nd 3D live (after Mori's). It's kinda as much of a big deal as EN can get?
(Even average JP member usually gets 1-2 per year each too)

>>64120488
Throw yourself off a cliff

>>64120496
Why do you holofags care so much about some stupid tiny plaque?

>>64118961
>Even her music has been going downhill
Citation heavily needed
Because if I remember correctly, she's still mogging Marine Spotify numbers, even with the later's multiple bangers

>>64120394
1 award is hardly a number. it's close enough to nothing

>>64120521
Shit nobody cares about? Quick, and don't look it up: when is the Oscars?

>>64119884
Alright which one of you made this post?

>>64120488
> need a box
That's what I said nigga
> have enough bodies

>>64120458
And it's equally as disingenuous as to pretend she instantly went back to her former viewership after Ark shut down, but you're much less likely to get pushback for implying she's a permanent shitter then talking about how she might have done something good for herself that all the Rosentai are waiting for her to self sabotage as she's done during previous inclines.

>>64120539
Then why is Hololive not nominated? Afterall, VGA is not a Twitch-only award.

>>64119142
Well, what can she stream?
>Can't play the games she like
>Can't do react because of the fanbase and Cover
Might as well go outside

>>64120216
men pretending to be women? disgusting!

>>64120521
Creator of the Year is the equivalent of Best Animated Film at the Oscars you mean

>>64120558
The 2% yacht and YT play button aint just a meme /here/ touristFAG!

>>64120531
Spotted the Nijisister

>>64120570
Didn't want to pay for it

>>64120370
Even if they tried to get an external studio it'd have to be within Japan and Cover would still have to even remotely oversee it and then you get garbage like Mori's scuffed karaoke this year (despite the fact that she was supposed to have a regular live btw)

>>64119188
Yeah, still weird that she's becoming the #1 inspiration of every fucking one who tries to get in Hololive
Even the supposed "CGDCT" ones

>>64120584
Doesn't matter, Ironmouse still won a mainstream award

>>64120547
>Shit nobody cares about
Is this why hollywood spends billions of dollars every year for it?

>>64119260
>On the other hand, you have La+ who collabs with outsiders for fun and her popularity suffered for it.
Post the 2nd anniversary number screenshot right fucking now

Numbers BTFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GqrsRdks08

I hate Homostar
I hate WokeSanji
I hate Vwhorejo
And I will never watch them.

>>64120569
Not sure if you realise but I am not the anon you replied to previously. Like I said wait another month or two before jumping into conclusion.

>>64119924
Sisreap(whore), NEET LoL player half brother and about a dozen half siblings off her manwhore brother
Kiara has BroTori and a sister she never mentions

>>64120624
Based

>>64120446
I stopped caring about 3Ds when it was obvious that EN gets them if there is room after HoloJP and HomoJP and the stars are aligned. Why get hyped when you know you probably wont get another one before they fucking graduate

>>64120570
That question could be asked about a bunch of other content creators anon. I'm pretty sure Mr. Beast or Markiplier is extremely qualified to enter but a committee of games journos is in charge of the thing.

>>64120446
It's only a solo 3D so there isn't much hype.

>>64120624
Actually decent

>>64120480
>I'm just saying they don't bother to plan like a bunch of lazy whores!
Yes I am sayong exactly that. But you are going on a rant that I said
>EN doesn't deserve studio time
>Kiara is a whore
Which I never said.

I already answered your question but I can make it clearer here.
COVID lockdown ended in 2022 which is almost 2 years ago as we are approaching 2024. There is no way the studio is booked 2 years in advance, what I heard was at most 1 year in advance, which means they just never think about doing 3Dlive to give back to their fans.

>And if Cover doesn't generally allow booking before 3D debuts then they're fucked.
>if
So you need a hypothetical for your cope to work. We are already seeing councilRyS appearing in JP's 3Dlive as guests so that would be absolutely impossible. If that is true and they really wanted to do it they can always book under the name of Myth. Yes, another hypothetical to counter your hypothetical.

>>64120570
idols are not relevant to a videogame award

>>64120609
Yeah, they care about throwing themselves a party when most people don't even know when it is or have the desire to tune in. So self-serving, masturbatory, and meritless.

>>64120658
>>64120529
Well I mean that Ina make proper promotional poster and title for it. She seem to take this real seriously

>>64120620
Imagine sucking corpo cock for free lmao. Pretty funny how every ex-niji says the exact opposite.

>>64120604
I mean, who else in EN has actually accomplished anything? Kiara with Do U? Gura and existing. Ina with her other job?

>>64120446
All 3d Lives have titles like Selfish of a Rough Stone

>>64120617
How about her day-to-day streams so we have more data points than one?