/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6428636
>why do they all pretend to be lesbians?

Otherwise, Unicorn (Incel who is in love with a Vtuber) would be annoyed.
Rushia has been found to have been in relationships with a total of three Japanese e-celebs so far, but she pretends to be a lesbian in holo.

>Has any mainstream vtuber confessed to liking men?

Fubuki said that she likes sloppy men.
Matsuri had said she wanted to keep an adult male.
Choco said she likes skinny men.
Lamy said she liked muscular men.

>>6428636
>why do they all pretend to be lesbians?
Because yuri-baiting gets views

Either they actually have a bit of the gay, or they just enjoy being a bit flirty, or it’s just yuri bait, like a lot of anime does. The fan base is almost entirely weebs, and a lot of weebs like yuri.

Suichan is shota- “shonen”con, and rolls until her card stops for cute idol boys in ensemble stars.

>>6429346
And Nene said she likes tall men with big feet.

>>6429346
Whose type is fat fucking retards?

>>6428636
https://youtu.be/zqOZqKcvE7k?t=53
https://youtu.be/5RdXbxSZdL4

>>6429430
Fuck

>>6428636
>why do they all pretend to be lesbians?
Anon...

>>6428636
Mori likes short guys.

>>6428636
>why do they all pretend to be lesbians?
Because yurifags are the kind that is willing to starve themselves to give you more money.

>>6429470
yo mama

>>6429346
>Otherwise, Unicorn (Incel who is in love with a Vtuber) would be annoyed.
I never understood this. Wouldn't it be reassuring to know the girl you like is into men and not women? That just means they actually have a chance instead of getting cockblocked for having a cock.

>>6429346
Coco likes macho men

>>6429430
So there's a chance. Hopeully she want money.

>>6429346
back in my day a unicorn was just a 3rd wheel who joined in for a threesome.

>>6429346
>Fubuki said that she likes sloppy men.
>Choco said she likes skinny men.
shit guess I have to marry my friend then

>>6429430
She also said she's into guy like Walt Disney.

>>6431077
Based. I also hate Jews.

>>6429346
mori likes short guys
gura likes cool fit ouji-sans with motor cycles, and dislikes emo guys

>>6429430
>

Do the holostars pretend to be gay? I don't watch them enough to know for sure but they seem to just hang out like normal.

>>6429346
Fubuki like old handsome white men

>>6430165
do you think unicorns think that they have a chance?

because yuri sells

i do feel that at least 1% of their streamers might actually be at least bi though

>>6432554
Nope but they sure think they do. You can't be a unicorn if you aren't delusional enough.

>>6428636
Daisenpai said she love her man buff so i've been doing my /fit/ reps lately

Suisei is very open about the kind of guy she likes. She wants a shounen (shotacon memes aside, she's not attracted to pre-teens) with a mysterious, kuudere personality. Some of her favourite characters are Lio Fotia, Kazuma Ikezawa and Sakuma Ritsu.

>>6428636
>why do they all pretend to be lesbians?
>pretend

>>6429818
I laughed way too hard at this

Where do you even get these ideas from? Most of them have said what kind of men they like.

>>6432425
mains Mirage in Apex solely because he's exactly her type btw

>>6428636
Moona has gone on rants about whether she liked men with long or short hair before coming to the conclusion she likes both.

>>6428636
Named specific people https://youtu.be/YRuSd7zU2Kk

the lesbian in me makes me wish they were all actually lesbians because then it makes me feel like i have a chance with them
but i know it's just bait...

>>6429818
>Eternally BTFO'd
Anon should kill himself just from this, he can never recover

>>6432992
YWNBAW

>>6433121
im not even a tranny

>>6432829
Also seen her melt from seeing Thor and Loki without a shirt on. Fubuki is incredibly hetero.

>>6433171
be normal

>>6429346
>choco
fuck my anorexic reps

>>6433298
become a normie?
if you say so...

>>6428636
I'm a woman(female), and I consider myself straight, but something about anime girls and vtubers just hits different. I can't explain it.

>>6428636
>Has any mainstream vtuber confessed to liking men?
Like half of the ones outside Hololive and other idol groups, yeah. Although I wouldn't call that "confessing" in that case.

>>6428636
When you're anime it's not about orientation - it's about proximity to cute things.

There are female likers of anime girls believe it or not and they're not gay. Whether because they want to aspire to anime or for cosplay reasons they love that shit. Even collect figures/oppai mousepads and the like. Becoming an anime vtuber and getting into a relationship with another 'anime girl' can be compelling for them for the same reason that women tends to slightly crazed when it comes to fandoms.

A good example of this is Flare. Whilst it's pretty obvious that she's not actually gay with Noel, it's kind of an open secret that she's a big fan of FureaNoel stuff. Like really big. To the point that she' actually clingy with Noel irl (which is funny because in-chartater Noel is supposed to be the clingy one). She is literally a fangirl of her own fictional character and her relationship to Noel - weird as a concept as that may be.

>>6433778
All women are spaghetti, straight until wet

>>6428636
sora and suisei, rest of gen zero all talked about what guy they liked once,
sora in particular had a long video about talking with kotone tenjin or whatever her name is about picking up military dudes or whatever.

rest of the gens usually never mentions it since they try to appeal to otakus and gfe

>>6432706
>she doesn't know
oh no no no

>>6429346
Mori has confirmed that she likes short men

So besides Miko and Matsuri admitting to be lesbo or bi, who else came out on stream?

>>6435921
Just wait for matsuri's brother to get a girl
She'll be a deadass lesbo or she starts finding a man

>>6429346
> Choco said she likes skinny men.

Choco has also said she wants a guy who's responsible and has a good job. CHOCO THIS IS ME!!! I AM HERE FOR YOUUUUU~~~~

>>6429346
Kiara likes buff guys and has a white hair fetish.

>>6432680
>All of them androgenous twinkies

I think she forgot to add sonething...or she doesn't the full concept of shounen...

>>6428636
Most aren't pretending, and the rest won't pretend forever.
Female nature is fundamentally emotional and lustful, they can and probably will get aroused by anything that seduces them. Bisexuality in them is as biologically defined as heterosexuality is in men.
Things are going to play out exactly like female-only institutions: even the consistently straight ones will eventually get a moist whisper in the ear and slowly become indistinguishable from the rest.
This anon >>6435079 is unironically correct.

>>6432706
miko literally tweeted valentine chocolates to male vtubers for more clout back in 2019 you retard.

>>6436026
If Kiara isn't actually lesbo she's a good actor

>>6436203
>Female nature is fundamentally emotional and lustful, they can and probably will get aroused by anything that seduces them.
>Bisexuality in them is as biologically defined as heterosexuality is in men.
>Things are going to play out exactly like female-only institutions
You say that like we don't all know what happens when there's only men around like the navy or prisons. Most people in general are bi if that's the only option. Not to mention how many "straight" guys make an exception for traps.

I have never met a woman who is a genuine lesbian, even the ones that never shut the fuck up about being one

>>6436297
She's a good actor
Like Rushia
No one believes that she's actually crazy

>>6436297
She’s not, it’s just that you need to be a 10/10 for her to be interested. She has the hots for some fo the guys in games she has played.
Also who doesn’t like cute girls?

>>6436363
roomate reps

>>6432992
It's ok, you got 3/4 of the girls I had a crush on in high school and college
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t76ly1um59A

>>6436360
To be honest put me in a room with a lesbian for a few minutes and she'll no longer be a lesbian

>>6436636
but murder is illegal

>>6436328
>like the navy
Anon, the homosexuals on ships thing only came about because the various major naval powers (particularly England, where the whole 'sodomy and the lash' quip came from) were silently shoving their homos on ships to get them away from their people.
Correlation does not equal causation.
t. Naval Historian.
Furthermore, Prisons are another bad example, because that's not sexuality on display, that's sheer and utter boredom. That type of activity drops drastically when you give the prisoners ample distractions.

Because if they acknowledge they likes guys all their simps will commit suicide so they have to do Yuri bait to make them happy.

>>6436203
>The results found in "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female" show a higher number of men who lean towards homosexuality than recorded for the women.[8] Kinsey addresses that the result is contrary to reports that women have more homosexual leanings than men. He posits that such reports are due to the "wishful thinking on the part of such heterosexual males."[8]

>>6436328
>You say that like we don't all know what happens when there's only men around like the navy or prisons
Giving your holes willingly after cuddles and passion is one thing, being pinned to the ground, raped and the shock making you either everyone's bitch or suicidal is another entirely.
Not to mention most homosexual acts in all army branches and prisons are rape, cum release and humiliation, not attraction.
The trauma makes some turn into faggots, but not a significant portion.
>Not to mention how many "straight" guys make an exception for traps.
Not many, normies aren't truly into traps. They might jerk off to cartoons and to the perfect illusionists, but fucking one or fapping to 3D doesn't really happen.

>>6436762
Really? I thought homosexuality in the navy came from the same place it does in prison, especially when press ganging was still a thing, and you were never guaranteed to see a woman again but queer Quentin thought you looked cute

>>6436297
Her roommate cried because a guy called her other friend pretty.

>>6436837
this whole topic reminded me of madthad's latest stream

>>6436872
kfp...

This is why I like Towa she doesn’t pretend to like women even after she got caught and suspended for having that guys voice in her stream,

>>6436837
Depends on your definition of normie. Trans porn is hugely in demand and very well compensated for the industry. According to porn site studies most of the traffic that hits the trans portals on sites like pornhub come from users who overwhelmingly favor the straight and trans portals, they hardly touch the hard gay stuff. At the very least, there's a significant minority.

Historically, men seem to be pretty flexible. At least when civilization and surplus arrives. Sexuality at the tribal stage, where scarcity is the norm, is too focused on reproduction for homosexuality to really have a place. Before the advent of Christianity bisexuality seems to be normal in civilization among men, with stigma only surrounding who the penetrative partner is. Jews are the notable exception funny enough. Ovid is one of the few Romans who bothers to comment on lesbianism and describes it as "unheard of."

>>6436828
>unironically Kinsey scale
Yes, because women are often honest and a zoologist is qualified to do psychologist's and anthropologist's jobs.
Kinsey Reports wasn't even a research, it was just enough to be considered an early report.

>>6437427
Considering the state of the reproduction crisis I would unironically trust the work of a zoologist more.

>>6436250
read that again but slowly this time

>>6436636
Based ugly dyke anon

>>6428636


Les beans are a male fantasy and it sells. Same reason why women/fujos love homoge; if you like X, then two X together is like, double good, right? And so on.

Also has the added bonus of allowing them to do lewd/ecchi fanservice antics without involving male characters at the same time which could disrupt the parasocial dynamic.

>>6437374
>Depends on your definition of normie... there's a significant minority
That's it. It's not common, and this minority are the normies that end up becoming newfags and whatnot.
>Historically, men seem to be pretty flexible
That's true, we will fuck anything provided it doesn't cut our dicks off.
Also, I don't think your definition of bisexuality distinguishes between attraction and act.
Male gay sex happened in the past as a symbol of power, authority, status or humiliation of enemies, not love. And provided the birth control of that era was almost useless, it was the safest choice to fuck inferior men instead.
>Ovid is one of the few Romans who bothers to comment on lesbianism and describes it as "unheard of."
>as the marriage draws ever closer, Iphis recoils, calling her love "monstrous and unheard of"
It happened in Sumer, Egypt, and everywhere else, it just was less recorded because history focused on men.
Culture was also significant, as a man deviating a little from expectations and roles wasn't too big of a deal, but a woman was unacceptable. In roman culture in particular, pederasty was viewed in good light for the reasons mentioned in the previous quote, lesbianism wasn't.
>Seneca the Elder mentions a husband who killed his wife and her female lover and implies that their crime was worse than that of adultery between a male and female
>The Babyloniaca of Iamblichus describes an Egyptian princess named Berenice who loves and marries another woman. This novelist also states that such love is "wild and lawless".
>Her friend Leaena comments that "They say there are women like that in Lesbos, with faces like men, and unwilling to consort with men, but only with women, as though they themselves were men". Megillus seduces Leaena, who feels that the experience is too disgusting to describe in detail.
It was known and suppressed, but not often told.

>>6436328
You don't know what happens when there are only men around like in armed forces.

When you are in prison there is literally nothing to do, so you know, if you take away any outlet for a human's manic energy as a giggle m8, you might get strange results...

>>6438261
>Male gay sex happened in the past as a symbol of power, authority, status or humiliation of enemies, not love.
That isn't necessarily true. Roman pedaresty is very much that, but Greek homosexuality was generally considered (and portrayed as such by contemporaries) as proper loving relationships, albeit ones that replicated the power dynamics of younger and older men, and to a (much lesser) extent reflected the power dynamics of a husband and wife.

>>6432272
They sometimes do fanservice but also tell the shippers to fuck off they aren't gays. Only Astel seems to genuinely be bi and into furry( actual furry and not kemonomimi stuff)

>>6432272
Miyabi is the closest

>>6438462
>That isn't necessarily true
Existence itself isn't necessarily real.
But thereindeed were relations similar to the Sacred Band. However, as you said:
>power dynamics of younger and older men
The "lovers" part is likely a mistranslation, misinterpretation or the lack of better words by the chroniclers.
These quotes have been extracted from the most reliable source (Wikipedia) about ancient greek homosexuality:
>This active/passive polarization corresponded with dominant and submissive social roles: the active (penetrative) role was associated with masculinity, higher social status, and adulthood, while the passive role was associated with femininity, lower social status, and youth.
>Given the importance in Greek society of cultivating the masculinity of the adult male and the perceived feminizing effect of being the passive partner, relations between adult men of comparable social status were considered highly problematic, and usually associated with social stigma.

>>6438919
>there indeed
Fixed.

>>6429346
>Choco said she likes skinny men.
MY TIME IS NOW IM COMING UOOOH

>>6438746
he isn't
https://youtu.be/7QL2yLExyQM?t=132

>>6429346
>Rushia has been found to have been in relationships with a total of three Japanese e-celebs so far,
Gigantic bullshit lmao

>>6432706
Miko likes cock, stop being in denial

>>6439088
yeah, mine

>>6432992
I feel you wahmenchama... but on the other hand, watching crossick makes me seeth hard cause i know i'll never have that kind of intimacy or any girl into my ugly ass

>>6439157
just do what summer festival did.
she went from a fat 3/10 with achne to a 8/10 in like 2 years

>>6429346
>keep an adult male
Like a pet?

>>6432992
Being gay will get you nowhere, go to Mass
t. Former faggot

>>6439634
Being an "ex-gay" Catholic is 1000% gayer than just fucking dudes.

>>6429470
Ayame

>>6429470
Nobody’s. You better accept your perma virgin status

>>6429470
Stay celibate and you might reach my level of magical expertise.
I have enough mana to conjure a two-way portal to the obscure dimension, summon a creature from the void and shoot 7 fireballs.

>>6439567
This is matsuri we're talking about, you shouldn't even be second guessing this

>>6436872
Based random dude

>>6439063
I know of 2, but I never heard of a third

>>6435921
miko never stated it explicitly

>>6429430
Nene is a size queen?

>>6429470
Bumping for interest.

>>6431326
Surprised to see both of them have based taste in men

>>6436297
Oh she's one hundred percant one of those girls who pretend to be bisexual for attention but would barely do anything with a girl no threesome was involved

>>6432706
Is Miko the only no-meme lesbian in Holo?

>>6435921
matsuri never stated it explicitly

>>6428636
Most of their viewership is male. Almost all their creepy fans are male. Therefore, if they pretend to be unavailable to men, the parasocialites might take a hint and fuck off.

>>6450799
Yep instead on focusing on them its directed at ships instead. High IQ move

>>6428636
>why do they all pretend to be lesbians?
Because you're a faget

>>6439063
I thought so too but someone linked a video for at least one.

>>6428636
>why do they all pretend to be lesbians?

>>6453674
source?

>>6428636
Well a lot of them are and the others just have fun with friends. Do you not jokingly flirt with your friends or something?

>>6440859
>Literally talked about how she had a girlfriend before
>>6448579
>literally mentioned she doesn't have a preferred type of men and says that she is a "neko"
Anon....

Matsuri and Miko must be the best actresses ever.

>>6432992
>>6436525
The pain is real, anon-tachi
Not even being bi helped me, almost every guy I like is straight and almost every girl I like is gay

>>6432272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaWaJunu32c

>>6429430
A true Jotaro fangirl

>>6429346
>believing meme dox
kek

>>6437427
more legitimate than a random post like >>6436203 who thinks that he knows what he is talking about
lmao

>>6453674
some one please fucking give me a link to the manga, sauce nao and nothing gives me anything I see this everywhere

>>6456767
im literally going scizo trying to find the source, i've seen this posted in /jp/ hundreds of times

>>6429430
You are telling me I have a chance?

>>6456767
>>6466902
>>6466846
Calm down autist it's Hagure Idol Jigokuhen.

>>6431411
>Sora
>Tall

>>6436525
Cope fucking twinks, you have higher chances to be honest.

>>6428636
I've always been under the impression that everyone is at least a little bit gay, they just don't like to admit it.

>>6428636
Seems like both Aki and Sora are into bigger/muscular guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqOZqKcvE7k

>>6429430
Nene also wants to get the degraded kabedon experience.

>>6428636
It allows them to talk romantic/ero without pissing the fans off. Some fans like it, some don't consider them flirting with each other a "threat", some don't believe lesbians are real, but nobody really gets butthurt when the girls flirt with each other as opposed to just having a conversation with Connor or Mafumafu or whoever.

>>6448579
>explicitly stated she had an ex girlfriend
https://youtu.be/QrCWKCyDpdU

>>6428636
Watch Nijisanji if you want genuine vtubers sort of
Hololive as a whole is neurotic, and hololive vtubers always pretend to be something that they are not.

>>6457469
miko hasn't

>>6474708
this
newfriends finding out about business yuri is kinda choking

>>6475046
Okayu seems pretty genuine. Matsuri also isn't shy, but in a deeply neurotic kind of way.

I think it's more interesting to ask which Holos would actually munch carpet, as most are definitely yuribaiting for the views

>>6474708
it bothers me because they could be beautiful examples of PERFECT friendship but they screw it up with yuri showing that they have no idea what real friends even means and can't have solid relationships with other humans without inserting sex

>>6476825
A perfect female friendship includes sex though.

Preferably including a guy.

>>6432706
>>6457469
Migo likes cock, sneed harder
>Literally talked about how she had a girlfriend before
Lolno, only time something similar to that happened was when someone from her school asked her out and she said now. Get real