/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

theyre genuinely new

Am I surprised that out of all people, Matsuri did it? No.
But I did think that even Matsuri might consider that kind of joke to be a bit too far, which kind of shows in how she wasn't taking the moaning seriously and was laughing so much (when we know from the Rust server she can be very serious with it if she wants to). So I assume she was also wondering in her mind if she might get in trouble for it.
And from the looks of all the JP comments on her archive and on all the JP clips that are popping up now that the streams have ended, she might in fact get in trouble for it, even if its only a slap on the wrist (which it probably will be).

>>64456598
Suisei is the biggest homoshiller in the company and part of the problem.

>>64456960
hasn't matsuri been doing weird shit with men since before suisei was even brought for innk?

>>64456598
Homocollabing isn't the problem, it's that ERP shit that can ruin the company's brand image and drag innocent members who've been trying to respect their fans.

>>64456960
Wait till you find out that you aren’t forced to watch streams with homos in them
Furthermore, you never had a chance with any of these girls you absolute fucking loser

>>64456598
>Calls others Nijis while displaying prime Niji behavior
Nice try sister

>>64457073
so true sister, upvoted!

>>64456598
Nope, although this is a new low even for her. I wonder if any other holomem feel like she drags the blue dorito through the mud

>>64456880
This board is way too nice to newfags nowadays
They don’t even bother to lurk anymore

>>64456958
>Am I surprised that out of all people, Matsuri did it? No.
I also find it funny that on a server filled with all kinds of vtubers and streams from various companies, that the number 1 boundary pusher on the server by FAR is a hololive member. No one else who frequents VCR servers goes anywhere near as far as she does. Matsuri is in a league of her own.

>>64457073
>you never had a chance with any of these girls you absolute fucking loser
Did your oshi not read your SC or why you deflecting?

>>64456958
>So I assume she was also wondering in her mind if she might get in trouble for it.
Well now I don't have to assume, she confirms it herself:
https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1735058685318345042

>>64457305
This dumbass needs a hug

>>64456598
>>64456880
>Anything whorish happens in hololive
>Oh it's just Matsuri, it's normal
>Oh it's just Marine, it's normal
>Oh it's just Noel, it's normal
>LOL, no one cares what Mel does
>RUMAO no one cares what Aki does
>Kek they think unicorns care about Choco
>Well, Roboco was always collabing with males
>LOL, Towa...
Yeah...try to shoehorn some more excuses somewhere in there.

>>64457305
Yeah I mean she 100% got a talking to behind the scenes
What she did was technically not allowed on twitch, and while Youtube doesn't have GTA RP specific guidelines, I would think they're not huge fans explicit ERP either.
She's not gonna get suspended but she won't push it that far again.

>>64457441
you'd have a point if 99% of the time someone shits their pants and cries "WHORE" wasn't just a woman and a man exchanging words.

this time with matsuri you have a legitimate reason to say whore for once but now a lot of people won't take you seriously.

>>64457625
This

>>64457619
More than that, its likely she'll get in trouble with management simply because they'll worry she's causing trouble for VCR itself and the other streamers on it. I think that's probably the biggest cause for concern.

>>64456880
>talking to a coworker is the same as literally having sex with a guy on stream

>>64457619
I mean look at the examples that holo fans bring up when talking about other girls. They will say stuff like "Vei talked about her vaginal discharge". But Marine literally said that she wants to relieve herself into a diaper on stream.
Selective outrage is a very real thing among corpo tribalists.

>>64456960
>bringing Suisei out of nowhere
Rent fucking free, schizo.

>>64456598
Matsuri should piss herself on stream again.

>>64457619
This proved that Matsuri has no inhibitions whatsoever so yeah she probably got scolded a bit. They'll definitely keep a closer eye on her from now on.

matsuri is part of hololive thus hololive is a whore company. that's how it works and it's only fair when you went smearing whole companies for individual behavior.

>>64457973
How is Marine saying she wants to relieve herself into a diaper on stream comparable to Vei talking about her prolapsed vagina or her getting railed in Canada like she was a pipe?
You're right, selective outrage is a thing but so is arbitrarily trying to equate things that aren't remotely similar.

>>64459065
There's no fucking difference. They're both disgusting.

>>64456598
it is just homobeggars scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>64457625
>but now a lot of people won't take you seriously.
Because matsuri is an unapologetic menhera slut, and never tried to hide it. Newfags should be bullied of the board.

>>64459129
>There's no fucking difference.
Wrong.

>>64459129
>>64459065
There's a difference between being a slut and being disgusting. Melody is pretty widely liked even though she's a porn vtuber. I dont really see people going around shitting on her nearly as much as veibae even though veibae doesn't do chaturbate porn streams. Why is this? Because veibae is a gross person with an equally gross personality. Melody may be a whore but at least she doesn't talk about diarrhea and go in-depth into how bad it smells. At least she doesn't have a nasty personality that loves to talk shit on other streamers.
People generally don't have a bone to pick with sluttubers, as long as they're entertaining to watch.

>>64459065
pls kys
https://streamable.com/jlge3c

>>64459537
>Why is this?
No you're wrong, this is the real answer: >>64459441
The difference between Mel and Veibae is that Mel does sexual things for her fans whereas Veibae only talks about fucking people who are not her fans.

>>64459441
>old memes
there isn't a single vshojo member right now who will say this. They all left anon.

You think Matsuri's manager starts foaming at the mouth whenever this stuff happens or she's long given up and attends to the other Holos instead?

>>64459728
>now
Sorry but it happened while they were vshojo members so it still counts.

>>64459537
Then again it's all cultural and contextual to who where you talking to. some people would find what Vei said less offensive than when Matsuri saying she likes kids porn. Here you'll call Matsuri based and cunny , in prison she would get shanked to death.

>>64457625
99% of the time were warnings that exchanging words would soon become flirting and fucking on stream, hence why no males should ever be tolerated.
And there were tons of examples of it happening in Vshojo and NijiEN. So how can you not take it seriously now that it's happening in HoloJP?

I've heard the way Matsuri moans when she rails herself with a dildo, this GTA clip is nothing rumao

>>64459698
So if melody talked about diarrhea all the time and started acting like a retard like veibae, she would still have a strong positive fanbase?
Mel nekomata did sexual things for her fans, and she became a pariah. It's not enough to merely do sexual content for the fans, they actually have to be appealing and generally be somewhat decent. Melody mastered this, and arguably Riifu would have had similar success if she wasn't prematurely fired.
Your image about vshojo talents saying "show me some respect, I'm not a sex object... That's rape I'm going to have you canceled" is retarded because none of them actually said anything like that. You're just creating a strawman.

>>64457814
>literally having sex with a guy on stream
>literally having sex
>literally
Calm down retard.

>>64459306
she used to do cute yuri with fubuki but now she just bullies haachama into hiatus and fucks dudes on stream until her videos get taken down. stop whiteknighting her.

>>64460180
You're about 4 or 5 years when it comes to Matsuri then. Unless you were warning everyone about Matsuri back then too.

>>64457305
gotta love matsuri

>>64457625
This post.

>>64460392
>she would still have a strong positive fanbase?
I'm not saying it makes you immune to being hated, I'm saying that being sexual to your fans and being sexual but not to your fans are two completely different things and its the reason why these two types of chuubas are treated differently, and I'm 100% right about that.

>>64460180
you won't convince anyone that this was a slippery slope for anyone besides matsuri who's always been a sexpest. unless you're seriously suggesting someone like towa or even laplus is going to end up doing fake sex on stream in which case you're fucking retarded.

>>64456598
>beep boop newfag never heard of matuli beep boop
her VOD comments aren't looking so happy either so you NPCs can stop spamming the same copy paste cope now
The reality is that was a line too far even for her and reflects poorly on Hololive and the other girls in that server with her. Actually the fact there even exists a mating press animation for the male ecelebs to use on people really makes me question why the fuck this server is hololive content now.

Nobody give a shit about Matsuri.
It's just hilarious timing because people were downplaying the GTA VCR thing to defend Ririka and the others, and meanwhile this dumbass ERP with a dude live on stream.
Matsuri being Matsuri is nothing new, but the context in that case is the worst.

>>64460542
Yes they will. Laplus already made that sex tape and shared it with the e-celebs in Rust. All HoloJPs will turn into Matsuri but worse.

It's being blown up like 10x over by Niji shitters pretending this same tier of thing doesn't happen fucking 100x a week in EN alone and want to cherrypick one example (from a shitter who openly said she should have joined Niji over Holo) and pretend it's all of Holo.

>>64460669
>Laplus already made that sex tape
sauce

>>64460669
you almost had me for a second.

>>64460749
no one gives a fuck about nijisanji faggot kill yourself already

>>64460749
>this same tier of thing doesn't happen fucking 100x a week in EN alone
Can you give an example of something that you consider to be on the same "tier" as ERPing with a guy?

>>64460534
I can agree with this, but there's a lot more to it than merely being sexual for the fans. Fan support goes a lot deeper than that. The person I was initially responding to was draing a false equivalence between veibae and marine. I was just explaining why it was retarded. Marine is a slut and everyone knows this. She continues to have a huge support base of fans because she actually has a good personality and doesn't act like a retarded child like veibae and mel nekomata (also sluts).

I want more AVtubers

>>64460996
Japans got lots

>>64457625
This is it. Close the thread.

>>64460952
Yeah but the important thing about Marine is she doesn't direct her slutty energy to men, only to either her female coworkers or to her fans. That's a key difference between her and someone like Veibae which is why she's treated different. That retard Marine schizo is much better off asking a question like "Whats the difference between Marine and Melody?"

>>64461012
I know I watch a lot of them. The EN sphere should grow their AVtubing scene. Its pretty sparse.

Matsuri is a disgrace to hololive, news at 11

>>64456598
I'm not profoundly mentally ill, so I don't automatically know what the fuck (You)'re even talking about.
Vagueposting about some incoherent console war bullshit like this ought to be a permaban.

>>64461426
mentally ill board bud

>>64457073
The inanity of the other replies you received truly highlights what an irredeemable shithole the catalog is.

>>64461426
>I don't know what these people are talking about, so I'll just barge into the conversation and get angry about it.

>>64457062
>unicorns ACTUALLY THINK anyone has been """"""disrespected"""""" here

>>64461627
Damn right I'm angry, because as usual (You) faggots are shitting up the board with your retarded unicorn nonsense. Cut it out already.

>>64461708
towa baby

>>64460767
>>64460794
He's talking about Lap's yuri voice packs from VCR Rust

>>64456598
please understand the sisters need to take attention off of the 2 nijis that are graduating

>>64460952
if you like talking about mel so much just make a thread

>>64456598
Like it or not, it reflects on every holomember

>>64456598
Fuck you for making me think Ringo was back for a second

>>64460587
>Actually the fact there even exists a mating press animation for the male ecelebs to use on people
I don't think it's supposed to be an explicit sex animation, it's just being used that way here. And just because it exists, that doesn't mean 99% of people on the server would try to do the same thing, it goes too far even as a "sex joke".

>>64464633
cope

>>64461953
Oh. Did the audio of those ever get posted? Yui ERP would make me cum so quick.

>>64459441
lol she's one of my dead channel subs

>>64464975
I'm just saying Matsuri crossed a line that most wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if she got into trouble with the VCR management for it, hopefully the guy too.

>>64465988
>I wouldn't be surprised if she got into trouble with the VCR management for it
I don't know man, she had voice packs asking people to eat her pussy in VCR Rust.

>>64465988
It's probably the only notable thing thats happened so far in the server.
It exists for the largest content creators to have orbiters and promote them further. That is all.

>>64456598
>People can't discuss shit if it's predictable
She still went over the line and those 2 E-celeb fags might get banned for breaking twitch TOS.

>>64460331
Qrd?

>>64466808
She's posted masturbation audio.

>>64466808
sisters think rm shit matters

>>64457625
>but now a lot of people won't take you seriously
Not sure why "a lot of people" need to take into account anon's past opinions on the subject. This isn't a cry wolf situation, "a lot of people" can see for themselves and come to their own conclusion.

>>64467086
In this context it does though? Her laughing through fake moans is nothing when it's not hard to go find audio of her going moaning like a common JAV whore.

>>64457625
Anon you do realise that whore doesn't mean prostitute on this board? It means someone that does a collab, yes collab, with men.
Anything beyond that is some shit we haven't created a term for yet.

>>64467085
Shit must of been ass if it didn’t blow up like Hana’s

>>64467392
?
If it's not hololive content, it does not matter.

>>64467423
Matsuri's whole side porn thing is a waste of money at best. What she posts is complete ass and only her die hard fans would gladly pay 10k yen for i

>>64456598
>>64456880
Thanks for another cope thread, holocucks

>>64467423
Hana's was ass. It only blew up because fuckwits like to have the last laugh after the whole something something ya'll aren't valid in my eyes something something.

>>64456598
don't think that your oshi is any better hoshiyocuck, your oshi is a prostitute

>>64461128
Marine is a no talent whore who has one overdone gimmick and doesn't deserve her place at the top. She also blatantly rips off her coworkers and gets celebrated for it. The other person you're talking about is a literal who shitter who is where she belongs unlike Marine

>>64456598
This is the trashiest thing maturi ever did tho desu

>>64456598
Alright guys, the jannies aren't looking now. We can start being /ringo/.
I want to drink lui's hag piss.

>>64456598
you have to understand holoantis are literally starving for crumbs of drama expect this to get milked for months

>>64456598
penis joke > sex roleplay with e-celebs

>>64474220
How about her red liquid?

>>64467403
That's just an actual whore.
Whores male collab, actual whores do what Matsuri did.

>>64474478
?????????
so this is drama just for incels
good to know

>>64474528
post tits female

>>64474528
only actual virgins use incel

>>64474610
only actual incels use virgin

>>64474528
Always has been.

>>64474528
Lurk more tourist.

>>64474064
Mad that your oshi wasn't presented as the face of vtubing on national TV, Nijinigger?

>>64474442
Nta, but stop it. The temptation is too great. I'm afraid of what I'll become.

>>64474669
I want total unicorn death
I hope your oshi collabs with males with facecam more

>>64474740
keep hoping

>>64474725
>I'm afraid of what I'll become.
A vampire?

>>64474740
My oshi isn't retarded, thankfully.

>>64474646
virgin cope

>>64474764
kanata, right? imagine behaving like a lunatic on a group event

>>64474806
I don't know. That's the scariest part.

>>64474864
Of course roastie like you have to imagine.

>>64474913
Come on, it's just blood with a hint of piss and fishy aroma.

>>64474933
>I have to mute myself because if I accidently talk to a man I lose my fans
YOU ARE SO FRAGILE MY ANON HOLY SHIT

>>64474064
ok who's your 2 view oshi

>>64475027
This little faggot is going insane

>>64475027
>seething roastie

>>64457062
>Homocollabing isn't the problem
Yes it is.
>it's that ERP shit
That ERP shit only happened because homcollabing was allowed. Intergender collabs are the root of the problem. As usual.

>>64475027
holy actual schizo

>>64475087
>>64475071
no, you.

>>64474985
stop. Stop. STOOOOOOOP.

>>64475027
>I have to mute myself because if I accidently talk to a man I lose my fans
As it should be.

>>64475379
pathetic
also hello bvtm :)

>>64475234

>>64475166
>>64475087
>>64475071
he's right though, /vt/ is a gathering of actual schizos that thinks its okay to act this way. its only gotten worse over the years.

>>64475455
This entire incident demonstrates why Holos should never interact with men on stream. It's a slippery slope that inevitably leads to men and women having cybersex on stream. And that isn't any kind of exaggeration because it literally just happened.

>>64475545
you're going crazy little gay man

>>64475350
And the texture, anon.
Think and heavy but it will easily slide through your throat.

>>64475616
but I want my virtual avatars to have sex
fuck kronii's rules
UNITY THROUGH SHIPPING

>>64475718
...Shit... Grab a glass, my fellow degenerate.

>>64475623
.. the fuck does that mean

>>64476904
Seething so hard the faggot can't read

>>64457062
>>64475160
What does one call the type of mental illness that allows people to write things like this and genuinely believe they make sense?

>>64474220
cheers

>>64474528
Always has been

>>64474220
Let’s unironically revive /ringo/

>>64459743
I think everyone just leaves Matsuri alone with no support hoping she'll just graduate someday.

>>64456598
this is a new low though. are you really surprised people don't like it? Retard

>>64474682
Getting on TV through sex for favors isn't really something to brag about.

>>64485549
There's not much point, "that" tranitor is still around, the
>post i don't like = off topic ban spam
seems to have been cracked down on somewhat but he'll still take a break from dilating to kill /ringo/.

>>64489625
>Ringo? Nah better let /#/s have 3 threads instead they're much more important

>>64474278
The so-called hololive fanbase itself is melting down in this board, blind anon-kun. There is no need for any antis when your own fan base is that mentally ill

>>64489392
>Marine one of the top of vtubing
>Accused of getting on TV through sex for favors
You're braindead retarded

>>64490050
I'm not even a Holofan but I can tell you that half this board is false-flagging attempts done by smaller corporations and their fans in order to turn people off of bigger corporations in hopes they'll watch the small corporations chuubas since they're "drama free" .
This board has some of the worst moderation on the site for how popular it is and just about the only thing that could fix it is creating vtg

>>64490661
I'm sure other companies are all sitting at company meetings and shit and planning how to bait and shitpost more effectively on /vt/ rumao. You are definitely right about your second point tho. Making this board generals only would unironically increase the quality a hundredfold