/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Takanashi Kiara: 11%
Kiara...

>>6484424
power of cunny

gotta feel bad for the chikim
despite being the only one that talks with them properly

>>6484424
Gura is the best and Kiara is the worst, seems about right.

>>6484692
Cringe

Not surprised. Even with the cringe showing for Mori on Coco's Reddit Reviews, she's still high enough.
>Kiara still loses by 1% to even Watson.
She just can't catch a break.

one more strike, historian.

>>6484424
shark cunny is inevitable

>>6484424
Kiara just cant stop losing huh

>>6484424
kiara is lucky irys didn't debut before that poll was made

>>6484424
I wonder what makes Amelia so unpopular among them. Is it just because she's not a great singer?

>>6484424
Why is Ina so high up? Thought she would have no appeal to JPs

>>6484510
>speak and pander to both en and jp
>"11%"
>sadness
>why?

>>6484424
Imagine liking ugly lazy ass shark
LOL

>>6484424
>mori
>21%

>>6484828
Probably they are unaware what she even does since she doesn't interact with JP fans or holos at all. Like how EOPs have zero knowledge of Flare

>>6484886

Chimkin behind Ame who doesn't even speak a tiny bit of Japanese but instead is learning Spanish. Not a huge chicken fan but this is just sad

>>6484870
Because Kiara is obnoxious and self absorbed and most people can tell even if not all of them have the guts to actually say it.

>>6484828
She's boring and the GFE doesn't extend so much over the languages

>>6484858
ina is the only one that is liked by both jp and overseas for the same reason

>>6484828
The only Japanese clips she gets are the meme "LOL GREMLIN GAMER GROUND POUND YO MOM" ones. They never clip her sweeter moments.

>>6484907
Why she so fucking shit?

>>6484424
>JoPs would rather watch someone who doesn't speak a word in Japanese than Kiara
LMAO

>>6484424
The hilarious part is that the clipchannel is a chicken fag lmao

>>6484828
Ah yes, Watson "If you don't like it then don't watch it" Amelia. I wonder why people hate this rude, ungrateful bitch.

>>6484894
Yes, the second most popular HoloEN is really the second most popular HoloEN. What's the problem, anon?

>>6484858
We thought she would have no appeal to anyone due to how quiet and boring she was, yet, here we are.
Ina is the grand master of accidental GFE, I legitimately fear the autism level of her fanbase

>>6485044
The fact that you think that a simple statement like that is offensive means your opinion is to be disregarded

>>6485102
cope teacuck

>>6485044
> if you dont like it dont watch it
based desu

>>6484915
its just sad seing tryhard getting mogged by a goddamn goomba roomba and her buddy boy memelia sneedson. she sould have learn how to design a good thumbnail instead of doing 6hr streams.

>>6485119
Okay Mr. "I will watch things I know will make me upset and then proceed to bitch about it"

>ITT: NA-bros pointlessly debate the popularity of english chuubas, on an english image board, with japanese viewers.

>>6485183
>pointless
And posting on any other thread on /vt/ on a monday night isn't pointless?

>>6485006
>EOPs would rather watch someone who doesn't speak a word in English than Kiara.
LMAO

>>6484894
makes sense, the only way you'd be able to like Mori is if you can't understand what she says

>>6484424
>>Takanashi Kiara: 11%
holy shit lmao I feel so bad for her

>>6485268
It's actually funny

>>6485044
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>>6485133
Ame could get fucked on camera by her boyfriend and teamates would still call it based

>>6485268

>>6484424
All japs are pedos.Simple as.

>>6485097
I love my priestess!

>>6485451
You mean all men in general.

>>6485461
this

>>6485461
I'm not.

>>6485484
Liar.

>>6485044
>I wonder why people hate this rude, ungrateful bitch.

how the fuck are faggots like this not wiped off the earth yet

>>6485461
> only men

>>6484424
But why? Kiara can speak Japanese so she has the biggest reach of EN, is it because she uses vulgar language too much? But Mori uses vulgar language too and she's 2nd, is it her voice? Her design? Or is it just her personality.

>>6485573
Yes. Women are not biologically hardwired to be attracted to youth like men are.

>>6485006
She's my oshi but this is just funny.

>>6485484
yes, we know you're not a man

>>6484424
I wonder how many JPs still believe that clipped video where it mistranslated ground pound as anal sex. Maybe it had an impact with here reputation.

>>6485602
>is it her voice? Her design? Or is it just her personality.
yes

>>6484424
UOOOOOOOOHHHHH CUNNY UOOOHHHH

>>6484424
Jesus Kiara why would you even ask that

>>6484971
LoL not my oshi

>>6484971
Indogchama, learn English please

>>6485715
good. she's shit

>>6484828
>Amelia "Maybe I should hire someone to stream and take part of their money... wait, that's what Cover does lol" Watson
Japs loathe entitled, low-effort, talentless cunts, especially if they're mutts and I can't applaud them more for it.

>>6485461
the number of woman that are into loli scares me

>>6485740
Like 1% of them?

>>6485611
Women like small and cute things a lot because of maternal instincts.
Many shotacon, lolicon artists are actually female though.

So why is Kiara unpopular? She speaks their language.

>>6485782
She's shit

>>6484894
Pardon my newfaggotry but Mori's threads are the fastest circlejerk in this board, right? She's plenty popular.

>>6485782
All the already-given answers aside... now that I think about it, didn't her rmt have shit rep in japan?

>>6485764
Maternal instincts are coupled with a desire to protect, and that includes not feeling sexual attraction towards children. It's why women are always so up in arms when a boy gets molested by a female teacher, whereas men just say "nice".

>>6485807
Circlejerk implies they agree with each other. I usually stop by there to drop Vsinger links but those niggas are constantly infighting. But yes, it's the second-fastest thread in /vt/.

Bu.. But deadbraps told me Mori was the most popular among japs. First gura gets her face all over the jap summer merch, and now this? I don't know what to believe any more bros.

japanese people generally don't like filthy gaijins, and most especially filthy gaijins that speak their language better than they do. you will be labeled a weird or overboard foreigner. in the minds of nips, only nips are allowed to speak the language perfectly. that explains kiara's numbers in spite of being fluent in moonspeak -- it's an even greater sin than being just a plain american bitch or a korean.

>>6485877
Idk but whenever I dropped in in one of those threads, they're gushing over her like teenage girls to gook pretty boys. Also those cringe as fuck kawaiiope ritualposts makes my skin crawl.

>>6485044
This is probably that same guy that sent Amelia a superchat and got denied live on stream

>>6485602
she dont have much early game momentum boost so yt algo didnt recommended her streams as much. here is what boost guras early on : "a", ride on time, musedash, horror games, minecraft. i will let you list kiaras early boost because i dont know any.

>>6485782

>>6485970
The Nyanners drama has never been translated into Japanese and even if it was they'd care about as much about her as this board cares about Jun, which is to say none
Some Japs do dislike her for pirating and streaming anime though

>>6485966
Or maybe because she's fucking awful?

>>6486006
Do you think the Japs are stupid, anon? Do you think they can't pick up on what kind of person she is, or that nobody on earth from the west has ever talked about it with the Japanese?

>>6484424
>>Ninomae Inanis: 18%
But I heard japs are super racist and hate koreans

I dont even like Kiara that much but that makes me sad.

The power of good character design

>>6485946
That's literally the only thing they can agree on.

>>6485941
They don't mind Gaijins too much as long as they fulfil their expectations. That means speaking Japanese only to a conversational level.
Kiara is probably seen as the western equivalent of a Gaijin Hunter.

>>6486054
Hey, go ahead and search her up in Japanese on Twitter, matome sites, 5ch - see for yourself how "familiar" they are with her whole scorning the lolicon episode. The Japs have no idea about Nyanners' past, they only know her as a vtuber who's been in the gig a long time. They get mad at what they can see and understand, and that's pirating anime. But unless they have a translated record of Nyanners old Tumblr on hand from back when she did voice acting (they don't) they know fuck all about it. Your confirmation bias against Nyanners is strong so it's natural you'd see her behavior as suspicious, but with the language barrier and the Japs' general unfamiliarity with Vshojo aside from Veibae in general - she's not at all hated like she is here.

>>6484424
Only 590 votes.
ogey

>>6486055
Koreans like Japanese media and Japanese like Korean media.

>>6484424
I find it weird that nips watch EN at all.

>>6486185
Those are the likes retard, it got 18k votes.

>>6486129
>>6485941
It's neither of these. Japs in general are fine with fun gaijin in entertainment. They'll mock them, but that's about the extent of it.
Japs HATE gaijin who come over and try to change Japanese culture or tell Japs what they're not allowed to do. Kiara's old tweets were mostly in Japanese. The japs know about her past. You know the tweets I'm talking about, the ones going on about orange man and blm and other gay political shit nobody cares about, ESPECIALLY japs. I can't post them here without taking a short vacation.

>>6484424
KEK

>>6484766
It was weeks ago. Let it go.

>>6486218
How about EOPs watching JP?

>>6485602
For nips her existence is a disillusion.
Let’s exempt gura because her being a meme makes her popular on a worldwide scale anyways.
The thing is, JP has still this mindset where they are fascinated by outsiders, ironically kiara is just another normal NEET girl, they already have tons of them in their own entertainment industry.
Watson and Ina are, because they rarely pander to nips, still something totally foreign.
Mori hit the Homerun with her rapper persona and strongly foreign (I won’t adapt to the country fuck you) mindset.
Her Japanese is good enough to pander to nips but not to communicate in a clear and rigorous manner

>>6486055
Ina knows this and downplays her Korean background a lot in favour of Japanese culture.
See Ina's collab stream with Nabi a few days ago. Nabi kept trying to bring up Korean topics to pander to KOPs and Ina shut them all down. It's not good to bring up those topics to a Japanese audience anyways.

Wasn't the point of Kiara be a translator/mediator between holojp and holoen so they can interact better? Looks to me as if that was the only thing she had to offer, funny

>kiara the only jp speaker is the lowest ranked

You can't make this shit up

>>6486294
The talents, not the audience, stupid

This poll is from a translated clip channel, so whether they speak japanese or not is basically irrelevant. Looking at the comments, they're all unityfags, so I wonder what they would think if they knew it's being used as a shitpost by compulsive Kiara haters. Probably a mixture of confusion and disappointment.

>>6485523
kek, read this in cocovoice
Whenever there's a holo in a post, my brain automatically reads it in her voice

leave kiara alone you fucking fags

>>6486294
Kiara has too much of an ego to be a good translator, both sides end up getting a mangled translation of the other language with Kiara's own nonsense added in.

I though you guys told me that Calli was seen as the super cool one and was the most popular and the face of HololiveEN with the Japanese.

>>6486386
Most people do, it's why her numbers distress her so much.

>>6486386
Get out bro, /vt/ sucks

>>6484692
Both garbage you eop fuck

>>6486436
t. seething KFP

>>6486270
There's nothing weird about that. JP chuubas are literally anime and anime is universally appealing. EN chuubas are like english dubbing. English word structure literally doesn't allow the language to sound cute.

>>6486399
Gura is a fucking radiant cunny messiah that they revel in and get nervous around, anon, look at every interaction during the festival streams.

Calli is second to Gura to them.

girl you gotta love your japs
girl, you gotta love your japs
take them by the hand (tun tun, tun tun)
make them understand

>>6486399
Turns out it was all just deadbeat cope.

Japa are starting to enjoy Amelia. She was a mystery to them until recently because of badly translated clips, but since her new outifit reveal and meme review she got exponentially more popular.
They also really like the 3DVR streams.

>>6486414
>impersonating her on twitter
>sending her rape/death threats
>"leaving her alone"

>>6486399
I mean, they're not wrong. Mori can literally do nothing wrong in the eyes of the Japanese. There are several translated clips that shows her being an uncool dork and they still love her and think she's super cool. Gura simply has more JP fans in general due to the sheer amount of subs that she has

>>6485268
She really keeps losing, huh?

>>6486635
Go back.

>>6485739
Based japs

>>6486257
Yes, invading the Japs by criticizing them or their society as an outsider is problematic and you will be shunned for this.
Woke leftist mentality is too contrary to the Japanese mentality and these people are those who come back hating Japan with Passion.
However, the point still stands, being too good in Japanese and straying away too much from what a Japanese person expects from a Gaijin is hard for them to accept and gives them major red flags.

>>6486533
like a korosan without okayu
a holo out on loan
riders on the storm

>>6486512
>hololive looks fun, imma join, makes friend, play games, happy smily story!
>joined
>instead of become cute anime catgirl who play games with friends, she became a fucking radiant cunny messiah instead
>depresso
>why?

>>6485451
This is fr the only reason why gura has any popularity in general honestly

>>6486620
Based

>>6484424
kek self hating jops

>>6486662
one more strike

It's just a ranking of ENs from easiest to hardest to understand as a JP-iter ESL: Gura has no vocabulary, Mori is a teacher talking to retards, Ina speaks slowly, Amelia is utterly impenetrable and Kiara is an ESL who never shuts up.

>>6486691
Anya...anya...

>>6484424
That poll is from a translation clips channel.
Kiara has few translations because she translates herself.
That's why the poll is skewed. Kiara is actually immensely popular among the japanese.

>>6486797

>>6486457
I literally just called the fucking chicken garbage. What are you talking about

>>6486790
Tbh anya really just self sabotages herself with how she runs her shit. If she properly exploited her loli design she would be doing better with the pedotards too

>>6484828
1. doesn't speak Japanese so no major outreach to them (like Lamy or Flare having no popularity in the West)
2. JP clipfags mostly just clip epic gremlin gamer moments that are only a small part of her personality

>>6485739
>>6485739
How are you so easily offended by a chuuba with the slightest bit of sass?

>>6486620
>I'll use the fucking kid's vagina onaho for 10,000 yen, Ola! !! !!
based

>>6486327
since there are nothing but EOPs here, here's a translation
>"I like them all, so I choose not to vote"
>Harusame (channel owner): "What a passionate viewer, Im really sorry for not including an option for all of them. I will clip everyone's best moments equally, so let's get hype together"

>>6486797
Pretty sure that people who watch clips still watch regulaeär hololive as well anon. It's not like the viewers of that channel are in some kind of a bubble where they can only watch translated clips.

Shark cunny wins bij default
Mori cringe is major moe to them

Makes sense.

>>6487119
Lamy has been doing some English reps based on her recent streams anon, she also tried explaining tanabata to kagainikkis.

>>6487224
She's been picking up a bit recently (it helps that there's a disproportionate amount of high-quality fanart of her) but she still came to mind as a holo with a lesser Western following.

>>6485739
did you really get triggered when she said that.

>>6485739
She never said that.

>>6487457
She said it on her bus simulator stream

>>6485044
same fag from that last thread
fuck off

>>6487186
>I will clip everyone's best moments equally
But he’s clearly KFP, his channel reflects that

>>6484904
Nah flare has been gaining in popularity with EOPs, it's Mio that doesn't engage with them at all.

I'd think that both Mori and Gura make good clipping material considering how they react to problems/surprises.

>>6485739
>>6485044
lmao, imagine getting filtered by a sweaty NEET with a cartoon avatar this hard

consider dropping out of life, onii-senpai

>>6484424
Kind of sad given how Kiara has the best Japanese and most collabs

Cover, please ask Puppet Combo for permissions, onegai...

>>6485970
Kiara's collab with Nyanners is probably the best and only decent collab she's ever had. Maybe it's because they are both cunts?
Sad we'll probably won't see these 2 collab again or with Vei. These 3 have that Stacy energy emanating from them that no one else in Holo can match.

>>6484870
Design debuff

>>6485044
>Ah yes, Watson "If you don't like it then don't watch it" Amelia.
BASED

>>6486620
>I'll use the fucking kid's vagina onaho for 10,000 yen, Ola! !! !!

>>6486055
>But I heard japs are super racist and hate koreans
They are racist towards everyone bro but at the same time they are non-confrontational two faced cowards, so you never know. Even Coco talked about this in one of her last streams, the things she disliked about Japanese people and how fake their politeness sometimes was.
But anyway, do they even know Ina's Korean? They probably think she's white cus she on En.

>>6484858
I'd assume it's because she can speak Japanese and collabs with the JP girls sometimes. Also drawing doesn't really have a language barrier so they might just like her art.

>>6486399
can't beat cunny

>>6484904
That used to be the case with Flare, but she has been reaching out to the EOPs more and more over the past few months and it's working.

>>6488436
It's not just a matter of language.
Kiara can speak japanese, but they still hate her because she doesn't understand the culture at all and just acts obnoxious in collabs.
Ina understands the culture more, and acts more like how a JP girl would in collabs.

>>6488343
Complaining about fake politeness is pretty ironic coming from some who was raised in Georgia

>>6484424
Is this meant to make Kiara look bad? Because the fact that Ame is only 1% more says worse about her. The perfect Ame, who JP supposedly loves, according to cherrypicked 5ch posts

>>6484870
The hunter that seeks two birds comes back with none, Kiara should've built up one based at a time EN > Austrian > JP but she got greedy and lost relevance with any of those

>>6484424
>Mori being the second most voted for
>Meant to take this poll seriously

>>6484424
Surprised there's at least 2000 people who has Kiara as their favourite

>>6488343
They totally know, at least the JOPs in 5ch do
Some are pretty racist about it, others don't really care

>>6484915
Honestly this. She's kinda annoying and just feels way too mainstream 'Ooo look at me, me am bottom bitch er I mean left! Woowee ain't Quirky!?' to be honest.

>>6486635
>Twitter
Kek, go back retard. Any moron that uses that cancer tumblr 2.0 doesn't just deserve death threats, but deserves actual death.

>>6488704
All the holos use it

>>6485044
Based on the amount of (you's) you're getting of teacucks coming to her defense it seem that deep down they know she was kind of a piece of shit by responding that way. Especially when her response was to someone sending her a bunch of superchats... And then for several minutes chat dabbing on the dude and Ame didn't even take a second to stop the bullying either. That was a very Twitch-thot-simp moment right there.

>>6488213
>pink cunt talks big shit when it's just her typing messages
>pink cunt fumbles and bumbles any time another human being is within earshot of her and immediately shuts down when confronted
>Kiara -- THE bottom-bitch EN -- still manages to soft-bully Nyanners as much as she wants and never gets shot back at
>Stacy energy
lool

>>6488805
Acceptable losses

>>6484738
>>6484886
>>6484907
>>6485451
>>6485734
>>6486687
COPE

Kiara is the worst and most annoying holo, desprate for attention, and will do anything for it. Her whole personality revolves around a gay meme chart and copying other holos. Such a blamd person her own co-workers thought she'd be in porn. Gura is based and original, Ame does what she wants and doesn't need to bend over backwards for attention, Cali takes pitty and deals with Kiara and her retards so she doesn't just off herself.

>>6488652
>Mainstream
She's got fucking immense power levels, higher than most anon. Though she has got normie friends so I guess she is pretty good at hiding them.

>>6487201
Yes only EOP clip watchers do that, japs watch every streamer that they feel interested from watch clips, absolutely without a doubt.

>>6484971
Worst fanbase

no u

>>6487472
What an ungrateful cunt

>>6488652
Graduation for this bitch can't come soon enough

Someone sell me on this girl, not the rrats but as in what talent does she bring to the table.

I’d rather be positive about this outlook if it’s going to be the reality.

Do we not have a "Kiara hate general" yet so I can find these threads easier?
On topic: FUCK Kiara.

>>6490691
We should just make a "Holo EN hate general" for max efficiency

>>6484424
I go

Gura> Ina> Cali=Watson> Kiara

I dont hate kiara, i just literally cannot sit through a whole video of her, the holomyth video was actual pain because fa/tg/uy curiosity overcame sanity

I think Kiara could have been a bridge between EN and JP, since only one other Hololive English member knows Japanese well enough to hold a streams worth of conversation

I really think the character is what killed it, if you listen to her streams before she became a vtuber her voice is actually really soft and soothing, now it is like nails on a chalkboard

>>6484424
seems based to me

>>6490739
lol nice try

>>6490765
Yeah, and now that Coco is gone Kiara is the only native enough sounding English to do translated JP collab, unless we get pekoglish or doglish or the like, it's chalkboard or nothing. One thing I gotta give Snuffy is she straight up said "Look this voice sucks to do is it cool if I do normal?" And found out, guess what, the voice ain't what makes the content. I think Coco and many others were smart with just sticking to a upbeat normal voice so close that when they do their normal it isn't a big difference. I don't hate Kiara, think she's kinda annoying, her fans are probably the worst of holofans, and she doesn't really have much character beyond "lel buttom lef", but I don't hate her. Just don't think she's really made for corporate vtube area, she fits more as a solo or loose group like Juniper. Before some chicken fucker has a fit about 'Uh uh idolfag!' dude, none of them are idol teir say for a select few and even they don't rely on sex as much as kiara, hell not even Marine.

>>6484424
I don't hate Kiara but damn it's funny to see how the one who want any JOPs as viewers doing so badly.

>>6484424
>Mori
Roughly as expected, appeals to westaboos
>Kiara
I told you elevens would get redpilled on her fast
>Amelia
Her "appeal" of a gamer gremlin GFE got lost in translation
>Ina
I thought the gook nerf would hit harder
>Gura
Better than expected, but then again I think she's the only good holoEN so far so I would pick her too

>>6485739
What a dumb bitch. She's nothing without Cover.

>>6494474
Wait ina is chinese? Ew, that's one less for me then. Fucking chink spy or America lover, and I ain't hear no pledge of allegiance yet chinky.

>>6495118
Gook is Korean you faggot. Get it right.

>>6485451
The busty tall one is the 2nd most popular. And the mature, responsible art sensei is the 3rd one. You are just assblasted.

>>6490765
i once read a ratt that she fake her voice to minimize doxxing, in the past she once had a job that needed her to use her voice a lot.
but my personal rrat headcanon is that she fake her voice to pisses her antis more, being hated make her sexually aroused, she cry herself to sleep after masturbating pretending to be hatefcked by her antis every single day and thats hot af.

>>6484828
Ame is really boring. You watch her when there’s literally no one else to watch.

>>6485044
She's right though. Should streamers only play whatever games their chat decides she should play? That's a great way to have every single streamer on earth only play Minecraft and whatever flavor of the month meme game came out. If you don't like the content she puts out, watch someone else. Pretty fucking simple.

>>6484424
chikim is less liked by the japs than the girl who cant even talk nihongo lol

>>6485044
You hurt the teacucks feelings lmao

>>6495221
I don't give a fuck what rising sun you are good sing the anthem or I'll pour napalm on you and any kids in your family.

>>6495368
This honestly.

>>6487119
I like listening to Lamy and Flare when they play games, they're very soothing. I don't understand them, but soothing none the less.

>>6484828
She relies on her humor which is very western.

>>6485006
I’m eop but rather watch Pekers over any EN. jops love cunny, it transcends language