/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65831018
Rushia because coco was going to leave cover regardless due to them not allowing her to do what got rifu fired.

>>65831018
Not this one, this was a fucking landmine that could’ve gone off at any time, Coco just happened to be the one that stepped on it. If it wasn’t her it would’ve been someone else.

>>65831018
Cover trying to two-time China by only affirming their commitment to One China in the Chinese version of their apology

>>65831126
K. Which one then?

>>65831018
Aloe

>>65831126
Coco stepped on that landmine to distract from Haato who accidentally stepped on it.

>>65831018
not that one, chinese shit is not worth it

>>65831018
Kiara getting hired

I think they're in a good place now so let all the past yabs live as is.

I'd go back in time with proof of hololive quality decline due to tempiss to erase the homos from history and have omega fired as well to so he could've been replaced by jap years earlier.

>>65831018
All yabs happen for a reason, either because the chuuba is a menhera retard or because she farmed an audience of menhera retards and she gave them a reason for them to turn on her. Accept the yab.

>>65831292

>>65831178
Yeah but they didn't even got that mad at Haato anyway. Mostly because she didn't mean it.

>>65831292
/thread

>>65831154
Off the top of my head? Maybe the Aloe yab, it was a real shame the way things turned out and I would’ve like to see what could’ve happened if she had Holo supporting her.

If the Myth offcollab never happened I wonder if they’d have stayed friendly…

>>65831112
>rifu fired
didn't she quit ? also where is she now ?

Gura from joining this depressing talent killing cold corpo. I feel like she would still be lazy like now but she used to always comeback with a banger that made the internet hum her tunes for the whole month

>>65831572
I'm sure she was fired after corpo found out her only fan side hustle.

>>65831018
remove gura overlapping biboo's debut buff window onegaishimasu

>>65831400
the op is a pretty good example of why you're wrong

>>65831018
Yagoo's decision to create Holostars.

>>65831018
Aloe's rookie mistake. If something like that had happened later in her run, I think she would have handled it better and could have avoided graduating. But then again, maybe not. I don't know, but a yab that quickly into your career is pretty rough.

>>65831518
maybe, i don't know if holofive would have been as close as nepolabo are

>>65831155
>>65831518
No way, not this one. It sucks what happened to her, but that yab worked out best for everyone. NePoLaBo is better than HoloFive could ever have been, and she got her life in a much better place because of it

Would any one try to go back in time to save Hitomi Chris?

>>65831018
Aloe, all the others are just they showing their true colors
Coco might be not her own fault but it's good she got out of hololive because she was a worse influence than fucking Mori

>>65831682
>in a different timeline there's a senzawa loli god requiem cover

>>65831856
go back to your numberchimp thread muhammed

>>65831018
Murder the retard who was in charge of managing Subaru's account during the permissions yab.

>>65831018
Rushia's

>>65831916
Wait, what happened with Subaru? Mio was the one who set off that landmine. Unless you mean during the nintendo perms issues days before that (in which I still wouldn't know because I don't watch Subaru)

>>65831834
Aloe had to go through a lot of shit to get to that better place, I’d hope that having her friends around would’ve given her the support she needed to tackle her menhera. Maybe Holofive wouldn’t have been as good as NePoLaBo (though really who knows), I don’t think it’s fair that she had to be sacrificed for that.

>>65832035
Countless hours of VODs lost to the void. I wish I didn't have to dig through weird archives just to see her Chrono Trigger playthrough.

Aloe got fucked over for no real reason and deserved an honest shot- Rusia got hers.
>>65831834
You can't actually know either of those things- what we got isn't bad, but it could have been better.

>>65832035
>Wait, what happened with Subaru?
instead of privating the videos, manager-fag deleted them

>>65832226
Mane-kun...you retard...

>>65832035
While other Holos would have their VODs privated as a precautionary method to avoid having their channels banned by Susan, Subaru's manager, in their infinite wisdom, decided that those VODs with questionable perms we're better off being removed from existence rather than remain unlisted.

The problem with this is that the retard went collateral and also deleted a LOT more than just those VODs but also some zatsus and other stuff.

>>65831518
>Aloe
Her dad was a huge fucking dick and I honestly think all the fame would just cause a bigger implosion later when he inevitably tries to leech off her money.
>Coco
It would have happened eventually even without Taiwan. She was already in a rut content-wise because Asacoco was severely restricted by management. At best it might have kept her around for another year but she would have graduated either way. Also it got Cover out of China so I think it's a fair tradeoff.
>Rushia
lol there's no getting out of that one unless you lobotomize Ru-chan into a completely different person.

>>65832035
The other managers privated old vods. Subaru's manager for some reason deleted them instead so a significant number of her old vods are just permanently lost.
In practice I'm not sure there's a super big difference because many of the privated vods on other channels that could theoretically be restored never came back. But it still sucks and Subaru was understandably very bummed out by it at the time

>>65831018
The sad thing is this, both taiwan yab and Rushia yabs have been for the better in the end for hololive.
Taiwan yab forced covers hand to leave china, which was good. Rushia getting herself fired made gen3 kick things into the next gear, it's almost as if she was holding them back.

>>65831916
yea, the whole holocaust thing. Not only are there streams lost for subaru, there are still streams missing for other talents as well. That would be the thing I would undo somehow.

>>65831018
I travel back to 2017 and make sure that Siro's Christmas stream goes on without any problems.

Hitomi Chris

>>65832461
Doesn't the collateral damage include Okayu's original SMRPG run?

>>65831018
Everything went downhill ever since these whores debuted.

>>65832636
>Provides no context
Either a nijinigger or a homobeggars tempiss bootlicker which one are you

>>65831018
I'll let Kiara know that the majority of her audience consists of EOP individuals – those who struggle with online interactions and easily become frustrated when encountering foreign languages. At the time of her debut, the concept of EOP wasn't well-known, so she unintentionally showcased her Japanese skills.

She believed that demonstrating her language abilities would earn her respect from viewers, but it ended up having the opposite effect. It's unjust for her to endure lifelong bullying just because of one misstep, even if you consider it a 'mistake'.

>>65832461
>there are still streams missing for other talents as well.
The site's been dead for a while now, but HoloTools used to have a page that tracked the percentage of privated/recovered videos/streams for each channel. Basically every single holo is missing stuff still with some of them still missing almost half of their channel history.

>>65831018
Hitomi Chris

>>65831897
Coco always was bad, now feel free to call me a chink or idk what else

>>65832279
Subaru's manager fucked up, but it also feels like this should have been a company-wide mandate. The people at top should have provided better guidance on how to deal with perms. There was very little consistency between the members.

>>65831018
Whatever it was that hurt Gura so badly. Whether it was the offcollab and them being cunts to her, Mori's drug rave, chat shitting on react content, or whatever else it was. Something happened to her, and I'd give anything to make that disappear so she was her old self again.

>>65831018
I just want to experience chuubas 2020-2021 again those were the days....

>>65831292
BASED

>>65832703
None of the things you faggot have mentioned. You sure seem to love cocks though given that was your immediate thought to my post, maybe you should help the worthless and irrelevant homofaggots get better views someday.

>>65832924
Agreed, but I give her a pass because she took out the China branch.

>>65833002
Gura started her ghosting arc sometime around the time she went house hunting. She was supposed to be gone for two weeks but was gone for two months. I remember the day of her return, there was some schizo in her chat an hour before stream breaking containment saying she was in Sweden with you may guess who.

>>65831018
Pandering to EOP and ruining the hobby forever.

>>65831018
Kronii lying to her members

>>65831842
You mean save the guy she manipulated?

>>65833015
>Cocks
Nobody mentioned the word cocks in this thread but you, is there something else you want to tell us? Why are you projecting this hard bugman.

>>65831178
I feel like if you passed the burden onto anyone else it probably would’ve ended up much worse. Regardless of what anyone may think of coco, she handled the situation a lot better than a lot of other chuubas would, especially the more menhera ones.

>>65831018
Rushia. Gen 3 was and still is the golden gen. Things would've been perfect if it wasn't tarnished by such a big scandal.

>>65831787
Did she and the rest of 5th Gen drift apart? I know it sounded like some of them were remaining in touch as late as 2022 from the sounds of it.

Oliie getting finger banged

her numbers took a huge hit and she never recovered
she could have spawned a whole new undead girl trend

>>65831856
>>65832924
If she was such a bad influence, why is she so beloved by quite a number of the girls (some of whom keep in regular contact with her via back channels)?

>>65831292
/thread

>>65833498
That was me who fingerbanged Ollie, don’t take this away from me

>>65831018
Rushia's so that I don't have to feel guilty that I still like her, and that I could be around people who also like her. And so I wouldn't feel post-nut clarity every time I jerk off to her, which is relatively frequently.

>>65833498
If you went back in time to stop this I'd just go back in time and do it again

>>65833249
You mean the girl who was predated on by a horny ojisan because she was broke and needed money for streaming equipment? The same ojisan who was proud of what he did to her and other girls a like? Of course you'd think of him as a victim you and him have plenty in common.

>>65831842
I don't think anyone cares

>>65831018
nobuhime's graduation hotmic

>>65831018
Honestly maybe this one purely for Chammers' sake. Coco would have left anyway eventually (thought at least there might have been more EN-Coco interactions) and honestly cutting off Bili, the CN "fans" and HoloCN was a huge benefit overall, but I honestly feel like maybe Chammers would have been mentally better off if this didn't happen, especially immediately after the Australia arc.
>Rushia
Menhera bitch who would have fucked herself regardless.
>Sana
Honestly there is something to be said of making sure Council's management never got hired. Sana seemed to have it even rougher than most. Still, her heart wasn't really in it in the end.
>Vesper & Magni
lol
>Aloe
Another decent choice, though I don't think Hololive was a good fit for her anyway, it still might have meant she went through less than what she did, and it would have been cool to at least have seen her interact with Nene.
>Mori lean moment
It was actually quite funny and Mori at least eventually had to the good graces to take it as a learning experience
>Ollie ranting about Indonesians not knowing English
I feel bad for her but she was absoloutely right

>>65833641
Yes, and she deserved it for being a whore.

>>65831018
I believe something triggered on Nene during the time she got her chance to work as a VA role in that rape anime (don't remember the name atm). I'd try and stop that from happening because later on it would end up causing her that menhera outburst that kept her away from streaming for months and under medications for a year.

Maybe the tracing incident too along the way though they're not the same kind of yabs in my eyes.

>>65831292
epbp

>>65831292
>using the orcschizo = mumei rrat
Based

>>65831018
the gura and mori air bnb one for sure, since I'm a firm believer that was the start of gura's spiral

>>65831018
EN debut

>>65833796
Which outburst?

>>65833814
Even if that didn't happen Mori being around would've caused it eventually with the way she handled herself

>>65833810
Why the fuck do all of you think mumei is orcschizo is there anything that supports this claim?

>>65831292
this

>>65833714
The Sana situation is so frustrating, she should have tested the waters as an indie first before trying out for Hololive. Her whole saga is the equivalent of a Sports 'Boy Wonder skips University to go to the Pros at Age 17!' and then proceeds to crash and burn and retire into a life of mediocrity by 22.
There were countless better candidates who should have been Sana and not 'her'.

>>65833894
She did an AMA here pre-debut

>>65833861
The one where she (or Polka, I don't remember) described it as if she was so fucking depressed she'd start tearing up the very moment she booted up her PC and couldn't eat anything because she'd threw it up right away.

It wasn't the same as the tracing one, that yab didn't occur until her birthday live I think, and she handled it a lot better in comparison.

>>65831018

>>65832461
>Rushia getting herself fired made gen3 kick things into the next gear, it's almost as if she was holding them back.
tl;dr?

>>65833995
Omega's so fucking retarded man

>Mori rejecting Kiara

Ive seen Mori Kiara was the best she was gonna get

>Rushia

she was going to have a moment regardless

>coco
Kson rarely avatar streams now. i feel she outgrew it

>Indo being whores

theres a reason Kobo is so popular and its because she never implied she would hop on the first dick she was allowed

>Sana

Ina sold Vtubing as a part time job which sana found out it was not

>Vesper

thatg was korean comfort clocks being horny not vesper

one i didnt see
>NOEL FLARE
they wanted to keep the relationship private and chat couldnt stop YURI POSTING

>>65831018
I prevent the current Selen yab by slapping whoever let Ina nepo Sana, and getting Selen in instead.

>>65833995
Yeah and those other candidates can just reapply. If they are better than Sana is/was then they should get in.

>>65833814
Gura was ghosting people before that.

>>65831018
I want help this guy

>>65831018
Sony killing Kaguya.

>>65831528
further back than that, that collab just happens to be around the time Cover set off those Mori stuff which made Kiara and Ame seethe

>>65833995
>she should have tested the waters as an indie first before trying out for Hololive
Wouldn't have mattered, her issues came from all of her project ideas being shot down by management for months, as well as her shitposting nature clashing heavily with how super-PC they were in that era. It was the corpo shit she didn't take to, not the streaming itself. Her choosing to do one 12 hour long pokemon stream a month was obviously her basically saying "fuck you" to said management, as was her implying her health problems were a lie the moment she was free from her contract. That said, I agree Hololive should stop hiring pro illustrators with nothing to lose for the EN branch, since they can decide to phone it in or walk away at any time.

Sana breaking her back.

>>65831427
>Fuwawa is Kiara in this timeline
>New Kiara brings Mococo aboard as this timeline's Kronii

>>65834180
I think shiori had applied for both myth and council but was rejected both times. I'm going to go pull a schizo take and say Shiori had auditioned for Ame's role.

>>65831018
stop the hiring of OMEGA
Captcha = G0DSNT

>>65834180
That's clearly not true.

>>65834094
>Kson rarely avatar streams now
are numberbrowns really this lazy and dumb that they can't check on her live tab once?

>>65833641
Has that guy been killed yet? The way he was going I felt it was only a matter of time before he fucked with someone he shouldn't have

>>65834351
???

>>65834210
eh, not as worse than after the fact, her streams almost came to a complete halt afterwards for a good while compared to before the party where she would atleast squeeze out 1 or 2 streams a week

>>65833995
>>65834180
conspiracy corner: Sana was Ina's 1 million wish nepo hire which she has never talked about her 1m request before

>>65831018
The creation of holostars en

>>65834424
Hes still alive
See >>65833791

>>65831292
This but only because it would've led to her roommate doing jav

>>65831018
100% the holocaust
https://streamable.com/qxsqny

>>65833002
>chat shitting on react content
This one is non-negotiable
>inb4 coco's meme review
Key differences, having different holomems plus coco make for a more dinamic stream than just barely reacting to stuff.

>implying is not her old self habits came crawling back

>>65834495
I can agree that the ghosting became more frequent after the whole Airbnb yab, I'm just saying she was already doing that before it happened. The Airbnb yab just worsen things up

>>65834629
thanks, i hadn't saved it last time i saw it

>>65833534
Because she's the lesbian version of a playguy who fuck and dump them (good enough for a lot of them keep coming back)

>>65831739
Biboo is doing just fine right now. Not breaking 5 view but getting mid to high 4 view is still great.

>>65831018
Mori debutting.
Everything that is wrong with HoloEN leads to Mori.

>>65834816
I used to like biboo but every week she keeps doing gura things. as if either management forcing her to replace gura or her going out her way to try and become gura and take the chumfucks that are looking for their daily dosage of cunny stream who are seething at gura for not streaming away from her.

>>65831682
>I feel like she would still be lazy
Obviously. She was always lazy. People just forgot about this because of Guras' first year.
She grew to hate her old fans, so there was no way she would have stayed who she was.
She'd be long retired by now if she never became Gura

>>65834999
Idk, Gura having all of the power by doing fucking nothing feels like it would happen regardless.

>>65831018
Mio streaming Ghost Trick.

>>65831018
holoEN's creation

>>65835138
>all of the power
What power?

Not a yab but not getting a new gen on 2022 was a huge mistake

>>65831018
You're asking the wrong question
You should say "if you could go back and change anything, what would it be?"

in my opinion, Cover leaving China was only for the best but if I was gonna do it, I'd do it by making Artia and the others out themselves as commie cum stains as early as their debut. That way Coco never gets in trouble and leaves on her own terms (Because this is inevitable) and Cover is better off without the CN branch.

Also I'd lowkey become one of their highest investors so I get the option of who joins the EN branch. That means no Sana and no Gura.

>>65833641
Chris manipulated the guy into thinking they were in a relationship but she was only using him for money. He eventually realized he was being used and wanted to end the relationship, but Chris threatened to contact the police if the money flow stopped.
>The same ojisan who was proud of what he did to her and other girls a like?
Proof? Nothing is known about him aside from one blog post he wrote about the events.

>>65831018
Hiring Rushia in the first place.
It might even lead to happier timeline where Aloe still exist.

>>65835400
what the fuck does Aloe have to do with Rushia? You think GFE fags exist in Holo because of her?

>>65831018
Let's be honest, we all wish we could go back before Rushia's yab and stop it. Before the yab, she was a cute girl who stole a lot of anon's hearts. She may have been menhera, but up to that point, it was the cute kind. And besides, Cover would still have their best earner. Her model was also one of the best with the best fanart. There would have been no downsides. She was a good girl up to that point, and she would have still been long after.

>>65834242
>Mumei responding to threats by shitposting with random John Paul II images
Most believable part of this.

>>65831292
BASED BASED BASED

>>65831018
I wish Zaion's termination was handled better by NijiEN. It would have been better for both parties if that termination announcement wasn't so obviously petty and unprofessional

>>65835400
>Hiring Rushia in the first place.
She was a good hire. Just stop the yab from happening.

>>65835130
Let's fact it, she's a leech who has never been original. I mean even her pl stuff was Sen lite

>>65835554
or just don't terminate her at all, nothing she did warranted termination.

>>65835519
yeah cuz she's Orcschizo

>>65835469
Let's be honest, Rushia was a ticking bomb, just like Coco.
But yeah, I think a year or two more of Rushia being a cute menhera would be for the best.

>>65831781
Which mistake? Renaming her personal Steam account that has her boyfriend on it to her Holo name, shit talking Niji on Twitcast, dildo sashimi and not setting her RM Twitter private, the list goes on...

>>65835466
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect_in_popular_culture

>>65834242
How's this the only thing that link mumei is orcschizo rrat

>>65835558
>Just stop the yab from happening.
Then she does another yab and still gets terminated. She's too crazy to stay employed.

>>65831018
I'd go back and stop that bitch Mori from throwing that surprise house party with her sister when all of Myth was there for an off collab. I don't know what really happened to Gura that night but she hasn't been the same since.

>>65831018
All out war

>>65835604
I don't know who or what that is.

>>65835720
You don't know that for sure. She only started acting THIS crazy because everything stems from the original yab.

>>65833641
>made a bargain to trade sex for equipment
>got the equipment but didn't carry out her end of the bargain
>"give my equipment back then"
>"no and don't talk to me again or I'll call the police"

>>65834242
Nobody believes your lies. Especially considering you admitted they're lies. You're the most persistent and retarded schizo on /vt/ kek

>>65835673
Rushia being hired had fuck all to do with Aloe.

it wasn't GFE fags that had to do with Aloe's situation, it was Niji fags and gaslighted holofags attacking Aloe for taking something she said about a different talent out of context and using her RM account and her ex-boyfriend and her sexual tweets on her RM account as a way to get Holo to fire her. Rushia was completely irrelevant to that situation.

>>65835804
Oh okay I see well, fuck Chris dirty whore

>>65832286
If you compare michael cat and rushia, you can see that whatever they were force feeding her was miraculous, they managed to not only contain the menhera, but to turn her into THE gf experience, it just so happened that the worst situation happened at the worst moment to the worst possible talent

>>65831018
The fall of livejasmin. If that hadn't happened, not all Western E-thots would be wanting to be Vtuber today, and the industry would not have been diluted. There would be no Vshoujo or Nijisanji EN, and there would be no grifters in holoEN.

>>65835469
>>65835966
Reminder that the yab only happened because of a Discord glitch that caused a message to appear despite the settings. I blame Discord ultimately.

>>65831716
retard

>>65835673
Her renaming her steam account and not unfriending everyone was a yab I admit but she did not shit talk anybody from Niji on twitcast, she spoke about the graduation of a talent and how it was due to the company being a black company.

Her being sexual on her alt is a nothing burger especially when she joins holo as a fucking succubus. Like bruh, fucking Canan.

>And the list goes on

no it doesn't. You listed everything buddy and most of them were either lies or conflated. Where have I heard this before? oh yeah fucking Zaion lmao

>>65835783
She was already crazy before she become Rushia.
Just ask her ex-coworker in her old vtuber group.

>>65836060
Kys rifu and now I won't watch your whore corpo company

>>65836036
No it happened because Rushia decided to screen capture instead of window capture. It was ultimately her fault.

>>65836091
Cover kept her under control. It was a long stretch of time with no yabs. The longest she's ever had. And it would have kept going if it wasn't for the Discord thing. She was in a good place there.

>>65831018
Kronii yab, still hurts me to this day.

>>65836108
She was using Streamer Mode, which is SUPPOSED to make messages not appear. And they typically don't. But there was a known glitch to occur when certain other applications are open that makes it not work, like GTA V.

>>65831292
LEX orcschizo

>>65836138
eh, it was inevitable. She was too obsessed with her fans to ever graduate and she was already borderline clinically insane. It was monkey's with type writers with her, give her enough time she would eventually cause an issue.

>>65835966
Nah, she was menhera, but not that much. What happened to her caused her to get into a menhera death spiral.

>>65836036
Ultimately it was her own fault for allowing males to DM her affectionately.

>>65836265
The one time she uses her corpo account to talk to men and it gets caught live.

>>65835693
>the only thing
nope, Orcschizo did a 180 again seeing how insufferable Kiara was after getting to know her, hence further confirming the insider post
"Oh if only you knew (that I was right about Kiara)"

Orcschizo also said that she was gonna debut soon and that she is NOT the VSinger, that means she's part of Council

>>65836108
It was indeed retarded, but you've gotta consider that to this day OBS is still finicky about recording borderless windows, and that her smarts and tech expertise capped at CTRL+C/V, this big oaf just saw that screen cap ultimately worked for everything and didnt have any accident until the worst one happened

>>65836331
there's also a burning KFP zeppelin in her dan dan video that seems out of place as fuck

>>65831018
Not a yab, but I would have changed this. I wouldn't have let her escape from XP Hill. I would, however, stop her from streaming. In this theoretical scenario, she would only make scripted videos.

>>65836321
If it was a strictly professional message, some people would be mad, but it wouldn't be enough to make her breach contract.
She should have drawn the line, but she didn't, and now she paid the price.

>>65836475
not anymore and that was kanauru's idea

>>65836260
She went crazy trying to prove she wasn't doing anything with Mafumafu. Maybe something else could have happened, but like Nene's tracing yab or Haato's Taiwan yab, it could have been EASILY forgiven. But with this, this was the absolute worst possible thing, and it made her go crazy. I don't think anything else would have caused this.
>>65836265
>Ultimately it was her own fault for allowing males to DM her affectionately.
Maybe Mafumafu shouldn't have been messaging her, but that's not her fault.

>>65836331
I would fucking laugh so hard if this orcschizo wasn't mumei but someone like bae or fauna instead.

>>65836563
again, monkey's with type writers. Give anyone enough time the worst will happen. If it wasn't mafumafu it would have been something else.

>>65836559
keep huffing that grade A copium

>>65836707
Hey that's my line

>>65836649
How many men do you think she has in contact with? How many other times since then has something like that happened to her? 0. Male collabs have been the closest thing and that would have not happened when back in Hololive. Maybe something bad could happen, but I doubt it could be something like this. This basically ruined her life.

>>65836563
>Maybe Mafumafu shouldn't have been messaging her, but that's not her fault.
Rushia added Mafumafu on her discord on her own volition.
Obviously Mafumafu was most likely trying to groom Rushia for some time now, but it was also her fault for allowing him to do that.

>>65836873
Rushia would definitely still collab with male if she was still on hololive, seeing how korone and everyone else is doing it she'd consider it normal because she is stupid enough to think it would've brought her more numbers.

Stop them from trying to replace kizuna ai's actor and tanking her popularity

>>65831292
that's just mean

>>65836873
>How many men do you think she is in contact with?
Given the fact that two of the people she immediately contacted during the situation were men, I'm gonna guess a few.
>How many other times since then has something like that happened to her?
once
>This basically ruined her life
she ruined her own life by being a loose cannon and firing on all cylinders and breaking NDA in the process. All she had to do was wait it out until the schizo's calmed down and mafumafu did his explaining and things would have smoothed over, but she went badshit crazy and immediately leaked her DM's with a manager to a online news outlet.

>>65834629
reminder that we've still never gotten a couple of Sora's covers public again

>>65836644
Mumei visited kiwifarms before, hence she knows about Drachenlord and the "kraut discordniggers" that liked to harass online people
Mumei has been to Germany many times

end of story

>>65837049
If that's indeed mumei I wonder if she still shitposting /here/ among the craziest of schizos.

>>65837028
accurate though, out of the entirety of Myth Kiara is the only one I can say is 100% replaceable.

>>65837107
Ame Mori too

>>65834060
Compare gen3 during their fantasy live and anything happening after that. Rushia seemed to put in little effort in the idol department or had a harder time in improving. The rest, have since then improved, to different degrees, many of them putting in extra effort to actually learn to dance. Before they were streamers pretending to be idols, now they are closer to idol-streamers.

>>65833894
the actual orc-schizo had some blog and she used ":D" in it one time. That's literally all it is. [spoilers] it's actually biboo [/spoiler]

>>65837090
Most are, the same as most of Niji EN are.

>>65831292
kek

>>65837034
>Given the fact that two of the people she immediately contacted during the situation were men, I'm gonna guess a few.
Knowing men and having men who are trying to get in your pants actively are two different things.
>she ruined her own life by being a loose cannon and firing on all cylinders and breaking NDA in the process
I agree. But she panicked, which I can't necessarily blame someone mentally ill for that. I don't think she should necessarily be forgiven and get a second chance, but I just wish none of this happened.

>>65832868
Is there any reason why the stuff still not back yet well…isn’t? It’s been over 3 years what perms take that long to acquire so that the remaining privated can be restored at long last

>>65837176
Nah Mori like her or hate her added a new dynamic to EN and made it big with her music, there is no replacing that.

Ame was amazing tech support even if she isn't necessarily the best in collabs and definitely has her fanbase in both EN and JP.

Kiara, however is just the horny JRPG playing Idol that's barely good at either of those things. she's bilingual but I know of like 20 other chuubas that do that better. Like I can imagine this small vtuber I watch called Amiya being better at being Kiara than kiara.

>>65831018
kronii listening to mori and collabing with the homos and saying the idol culture thing

>>65833810
does anyone have the actual post this is referencing?

>>65831292
OMEGABASED

>>65837197
One of the people we're talking about is Narukami who given the chance to go back in time before anything else I would push him onto a train track because he is not only responsible for the harassment of numerous vtubers he is also responsible for the harassment of Mano Aloe. But I'm going off topic. Point is if her immediate go to's are two of the most controversial men in the online media sphere in Japan are in her DM's who by the way are partially responsible for her getting fired and she is STILL friends with them, then chances are she has other dudes in her DM's who desperately wanna fuck her. These are Japanese men Anon, they unironically hire women to to act like their girlfriend and that's seen as normal, of course the men in her DM's wanna fuck her.

>>65831112
>>65831974
>>65833370
>>65833615
>>65835469
>Rushia
Absolute shit take. If the yab didn't happen nobody knows for how long and how much of the other holomems infos she would have sold of to youtube ecelebs for some fuckboy cock.
The yab might have saved some chuubas from getting stabbed by a stalker or thrown into jail for tax evasion or god knows what else.

>>65837256
presumably some companies just asked for more money than these videos were ever worth

>>65831292
>Kiara getting hired
And Nerissa was hired instead

>>65837423
Rushia gave away info because she's a menhera dumbass Anon. She's stupid not malicious. She's not smart enough to mute her fuckin discord notifs never mind selling insider info.

>>65837444
if anyone is Orcschizo in hololive, it's 110% Nerissa. This is literally the plot of All About Eve

>>65837397
I don't defend her shitty choices in who she contacted during her yab, but at the same time, much of what you said is just rrats. You don't like her, so you want to think the worst.
>>65837423
It was wrong to do, but it was completely and totally because of her breakdown. It would not have happened without the yab.

>>65831018
I really really want to say Aloe but I just can't knowing how things were and where she is now. I think the biggest issue is that if she stayed she would end up another Shion constantly depressed, overwhelmed and just unhappy with everything going on tons of hiatus. Also we kind of know what Aloe would have been and we didn't really need another APEX/Valorant streamer in Hololive.

I got one picking a competent manager for EN when IRyS/Council were brought in.

>>65837551
How in the hell would nerissa be orcschizo she wasn't a talent during the time

>>65831018
Probably Ririka's outburst. I don't care about male collabs but a chuuba insulting her fans is pretty hard to forgive for me (I still won't watch Ina, Ame, or Lui). People might say that erasing that yab is just delaying the inevitable, but I'm not so sure. She's still new and hasn't had time for her fan base to settle in entirely yet. If some more time had passed I think she might have been able to build a more respectful relationship with her audience.

That or whatever happened with Yuri getting terminated from Phase.

>>65837176
That's a funny way to spell Gura

>>65837646
Nerissa auditioned all the way back for EN1

>>65837840
The other 4 aren't bringing millions of dollars into Yagoo pockets every month like gura does without even lifting a finger, so no you can't replace gura

>>65837107
>the only one in Myth who streams regularly is 100% replaceable

>>65837901
I doubt nerissa is orcschizo lol but who knows I could be orcschizo as far everyone is concerned.

>>65837965
>streams regularly
>no one watches
What's the fucking point? If Kiara happens to announce graduation, no one will care.

I'd prevent Magni and Vesper

>>65838037
I don't know why all the cgdct fags don't watch her? Anyways I think people would watch Kiara if she dropped the annoying voice act and stop ranting about irrelevant shit that 95% of the time nobody gives a fuck about.

>>65838059
From leaving Hololive.

>>65836990
Fucking this

>>65838059
>>65838090
This is a thorny one for me since I liked Vesper but not Magni. Maybe if there was some way to get rid of Magni and Regis but keep Vesper and Dingo.

>>65837905
Give anyone else her model and they would rake in the cash. If Gura can bring in thousands of dollars by doing nothing, like you said, then it sounds like anyone could have played her part and gotten away with it.

>>65831018
the creation of holostars EN

>>65838091
>stop ranting about irrelevant shit that 95% of the time nobody gives a fuck about
Isn't that what KFPfags like about her?

>>65831292
If anything, I'd talk her out of doing the stupid chicken voice.

>>65838219
Nah despite gura being a lazy shit. Nobody has her personality there's a reason faggots who solely watched gura haven't moved on from her no other girl bring the hype and the energy gura used to bring on her streams.

>>65838244
A lot of them have a diaper/scat fetish like kiara does and Kiara rambling are like a mother's lecture so it's a weird fetish they have going on.

Coco mentioning Taiwan. It got Muse Dash perms pulled from Hololive.

>>65838244
KFPs are stupid idiots who like bitches

>>65831018
Rushia

Everything else would have happened regardless. Mori, Kronii, Ame, Gura, whatever you consider a Holo yab moment was a result of their personalities and either wasn’t a big deal or had little effect on the ultimate outcome of their success or failures. Rushia’s is the only one that was due to a fluke.

>>65831018
>caused China to hate Cover, which might have influenced theif fujos getting into Vox, which caused Cover to accelerate the homoification that caused the near death of HoloEN, which also drove a bunch of people to small corps
>made Vshojo considerably more noticed after she went there, which led to them kind of being the third biggest corp in the west and them to snag everyone who flees from Niji
Holy fuck, we'd be in an entirely different timeline if only Coco didn't bring up Taiwan.

>>65838244
She's fucked herself. She had a niche and played it hard during the first year. Very deep history in JP shit with full intention of using it to her advantage. Her JP-isms have slowly disappeared and she's basically forgone anything new related to JP. She can obviously still speak Japanese well, but her niche is dead and gone.
Fuwawa and Mococo are my new love.

>>65838621
>fluke
Nah. She was warned multiple times not to used screen capture and instead use window capture with OBS because of a previous discord alert incident. She acknowledged the problem and said she would, and of course she was lying and it happened again in nuclear fashion. She was always a ticking time bomb.

>>65837778
>Lui
Qrd?

>>65838912
he fed himself on machine translated rrats

>>65838912
I'm going to guess lui calling her fans ATM machines.

>>65838827
It was a fluke. A clearly obvious fluke She wouldn't be so lackadaisical about it if she expected Mafumafu to send her a sus message.

>>65834180
This. If there is such a standout candidate they just need to reapply. They already had a chance with Advent.

>>65839014
which she didn't do

>>65831018
my beyblade bro

>>65831018
I shut Rushia's internet down before her discord popup shows on stream

>>65839422
This is easily the worst one on here. But most anons have no idea who he is or what he did.

>>65831018
I'd let Nazuna play the wizard game.

>>65839366
Except she did?

>>65838566
Half of Muse Dash music is licensed in osu! nowadays, even some of the songs that were originally made specifically for MD like https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1885416#mania/3882096
>Ame
Ame's stream got deleted because she played a bunch of unlicensed eurobeat "remixes" that were just putting Holo voice samples over some copyrighted song and Cover didn't want to risk shit. There's like 7000 licensed songs in osu! now.

>>65839366
That's why I brought it up? I haven't seen nothing else from her that would warrant a /vt/ "backlash". Other than what schizo parrot here.

>>65836093
Retard. And you were never gonna watch her anyway.

>>65839610
you can't even speak English, Japanese is way beyond you

>>65831834
>and she got her life in a much better place because of it
she threw herself off a building

The only correct answer is to stop moris party from happening at the air bnb

>>65839850
Who gives a shit? What is it with /vt/ white knighting dirty whore like rifu recently. I was not going to watch her and neither will you.

>>65839986
Riifu attained a ridiculous amount of goslings in the short time she streamed. They could give chumfucks a run for their money with their obsession.

>>65839047
A fluke is an unlikely occurance. She was always retarded with OBS capture even before and after Hololive. That retardation makes what would be an unlikely happenstance into an absolute certitude. Also the bigger problem wasn't the discord notification but the fact she was leaking corpo stuff to JP Keemstar, which again was something retarded she did before Hololive. She is a retarded suicide baiting menhera that refused to change her ways.

>>65831018
Stopping Tempus creation

>>65840301
You have the right idea but what you'd actually want to do is kill Luxiem, specifically Vox.

>>65840291
>A fluke is an unlikely occurance
The unlikely occurrence was getting a message like that from a male, hence what I said.
>she was always retarded with OBS capture
She is a dumb, Japanese woman with no tech knowledge. That's just how she is. And if you think she was getting these kinds of messages all the time because of how bad she is with OBS, then why did it never happen before?
>leaking
I don't defend this. But while in Hololive, any damaging leaks only came about after she panicked during the yab.
>retarded
Yeah...
>suicide baiting
She was outside when it was windy and she was emotional. Yes, it may imply something to the viewer, but it doesn't mean she intended that.
>refused to change her ways
This is the sad thing for me. Hence, I wish the yab never happened. Cover had a good leash on her and she was as normal as she could be.

>>65831018
I'd stop sakuma from playing suika game. Life was better before knowing suisei is meeting male idols off stream, likely dating one.

>>65840842
Wasn't this "known" before that?

>>65839986
>You are not going to watch her
Hahahahahaha, you have no idea how wrong you are.

>>65840842
qrd?

>>65832169
>You can't actually know either of those things
For 100% fact, no, but it's a more than fair assumption. NePoLaBo have credited a lot of their closeness to losing her early, so if that doesn't happen, we likely don't get the tight knit gen we have. And she was in a real shitty place when she was hired, and graduating gave her the chance to sort her life out. Imagine her trying to balance all the workload within Hololive at the same time she was going through that, there's no shot that would have been better for her.

>>65840922
Suisei was actually yab free before that. The most egregious thing she ever did was singing with males but that was it. There's a huge gap between singing with some homos or having a musical partner like inotaku and out of nowhere getting close to a handsome male idol who's clearly very into her.

>>65834288
>as was her implying her health problems were a lie the moment she was free from her contract
I mean she also said that 'rumors' could hurt her job, so it's entirely possible you're looking at it backwards. She's lying about NOT having health problems, because she doesn't want to lose work.

>>65837609
That's the problem I DO like her, I am just not so much of a dumbass that I defend everything about her.

>>65837905
Of course you can, half the reason she is popular is because she's a shitposter and a loli, that's HIGHLY replaceable.

>>65840842
>Life was better
No one who is actually a fan of hers cares but nice falseflag.

>>65835257
Power to not get fired

>>65841354
Look, with how she has been in recent times, even I don't think she is worth fully forgiving for everything. But it is obvious that you are implying something that we have no real reason to just believe.

>>65840674
You give her shitty behavior too much leeway. Still, I also wish the discord yab never happened. Such a small, easily avoidable mistake caused a domino effect.

>>65839856
I accept your concession.

>>65841477
Yeah, you sure know how all her fans feel. It was revealed to you in a dream with an interpreter since you can't speak japanese.

>>65841477
NTA, but Suisei is the Mori of JP. Her fans would forgive literally everything, like deadbeats. So what you're saying doesn't mean much.

>>65841450
Thats why its been replicated multiple times right?

>>65841642
Ay bro believe what you believe but to me it seems pretty fuckin obvious.

>>65831018
The Azur Lane collab.

This board wouldn't have existed without it.

>>65841450
The conditions that allowed her to become as popular as she is aren't replaceable.

Pekora not ignoring trannies and playing HP regardless

>>65841839
The reason Gura was so quick to succeed was because she was the first of her kind in a EN corpo, no shit she hit 1 and 2 million in record time. She was lightning in a bottle.

>>65841900
Yes, but we're talking about going back in time. A shitposter loli with a singing voice is incredibly easy to replicate.

>>65837262
People who say ame are either new or dont know what she did for myth and council

>>65841956
fuck off troon. It was a good thing she did that.

>>65834397
Sorry, I only jack off to her fleshstreams.

>>65842068
indeed

>>65841733
she's not "the mori of jp". She's a japanese idol who lives in japan. It's retarded to suggest "no one cares" about an idol who got found out seeing a dude secretly. If no one cared she wouldn't have had to explain herself on the matter.
The closest thing you have to mori in jp is laplus, and she's honestly a lot worse than mori, so the comparison is not good at all.

>>65842209
NTA but the original argument of "life was better before the yab" is still false. Life was relatively unchanged for her fans. Life was unchanged for antis falseflagging as her fans. And life is pretty unchanged her her now.

>>65842209
NTA, so did her fans care about it or not care about it? I'm getting conflicting statements here. First you say nobody who is her fan cared about it, but now you say some cared.

i do want to see what this hobby is without gura defining it.
just to know.
i want to know.

Rushia of course. As crazy as she is, she was a good fit in hololive and she will never be as home as she was there anywhere else. I wish she wasnt such a spiteful cunt. I want her back.

>>65842326
Pretty sure you're also responding to a NTA.

>>65841974
Time + place + humor + model. It was a combination that won't ever get repeated again in the Western/EoP front and now she's slowly losing the mindshare of the average clipwatcher because she basically quit.

>>65842209
I call her that for the seethe it causes. And she annoys me exactly like Mori does: her voice and mannerisms. She is so off-putting.

>>65842380
Same

>>65842456
We're not talking about a repeat, we're talking about the same situation, same time and place all over again but with a different person as Gura.

read nigga.

>>65839524
Qrd?

>>65842643
Let's just say he was YABBA DABBA DOO personified, but for real. Like actually following through. Multiple times, with multiple people. Some already taken.

None t.deadbeat

>>65842643
Because everyone here is braindead and is afraid of bring up dead old rrats. The rrat was Kaoru was trying to fuck Miko behind the scenes.

>>65842299
I saw on my twitter hoshiyomi's who started doomposting and expressing their disappointment before deleting the accounts. There are people who care and people who don't, which applies to every talent. In suisei's case she's often not seen as a human but as an entity who delivers music so she got away with it better than probably any other hololive talent could ever do, but to say that "no one cares" is retarded beyond oblivion.
>>65842326
Some did and some didn't. There are ones who care but are kinda coping and believe they aren't dating, which I personally don't believe.

>>65842980
why in gods name would having someone on your friends list mean you are dating

>>65842980
>There are people who care and people who don't
This literally applies to anything in life ever. The obvious question (which you seem to be avoiding) is if a significant amount of people care. If 1% of her fans care, then it literally doesn't matter, if a significant amount do, then you have a talking point.

>>65843212
NTA but you can tell by the fact that she's still getting sponsorships, still getting a rising sub count, and still getting her cover trending on YT music (in JP) means the 1% theory is more likely.

I wonder how many anons don't realize how little benefit of the doubt they typically give, especially to chuubas they don't like/watch, but would give a lot of that benefit to their oshi and defend her. Your oshi is not immune. And you know you wouldn't like the schizos dogpiling on her. Why not give that bit of consideration to another chuuba who yabbed?

>>65842827
Lying retard.

>>65843212
>>65843370
What if it's simply that fact that most people don't know about it? Or at least, only have her side of it.

>>65840972
Enjoy yourself then anon. Haha is all that matters

>>65843660
You got me. I wanted to be hyperbolic (and lie) to make it sound worse. Hey, nobody watches them, so why can't I try to make people believe the worst?

>>65843749
Because if it was true it would reflect poorly on the Holos, faggot.

>>65837423
The only reason she sold any info at all was because of the yab in the first place, so if the yab doesn't happen, she sells exactly 0 info for fuckboy cock.

>>65843370
The dude shared his side of it. She included what he said in her side of it. If the dude said something that would have been particularly significant then the none of what >>65843370
said would be a thing.

>>65833226
kys faggot

>>65843212
My point always was that to say that nobody cares is retarded because some people do. Again if it was such an unimportant thing she wouldn't have had dedicated a stream to explain herself.
>>65843370
Mikeneko got a VA role and a job at another vtuber corpo after getting fired from hololive. That doesn't mean nobody cares about what happened.
>>65843202
I personally don't think a relationship that started with two people (the guy being clearly very into the girl and the girl letting such guy get close to her) who had no business with each other at all and risked to cause a scandal that could harm their careers had them been found out is some platonic thing that happened because they genuinely love tetris and want to play with each other. It's not like because she has a male added in her switch them that's her bf, it's because of who the male is and how everything happened.

>>65843496
>Why not give that bit of consideration to another chuuba who yabbed?
because vtubers as a whole yab too much, the benefit of the doubt is hard to earn, took fauna almost 2 years of doubt for her to enjoy hers.

>>65840842
>>65841139
They said yabs anon, nobody gave a shit about that. The only reason it was a "yab" was because nijiniggers were astroturfing it to hell and back because that's the biggest dirt they've ever gotten against it. https://files.catbox.moe/kb4f0d.jpeg

The only thing that's changed is that now posting about her in the catalog is slightly more annoying than before and that's it.

>>65842638
Not every person can replicate gura's personality.

>>65843876
>Again if it was such an unimportant thing she wouldn't have had dedicated a stream to explain herself.
She made that stream because she wanted to shut down the whole thing once she saw her fans fighting trolls online on twitter. Reminding people not to feed trolls, one of the golden rules of the internet since its inception, is actually a good thing. Also the male idol had issued a statement before so it's likely she was forced to do it anyway.

>>65843876
Yes but what you said is till based on an assumption. She makes connections with literally everyone, she probably has other chuubas, other fleshtubers, other industry people, other content creators added on also.

>>65842643
>rrats
He fucked Miko and Rushia and took part in an underground beyblade tournaments.
>What actually happened
He got an offer to write his own TRPG scenarios. It would've gotten in the way of his Holostars gig and so he asked for his contract to be terminated.

Suisei did what Rushia didn't. She handled the situation just fine, and Suisei didn't do GFE. Even if Rushia handled it perfectly, there would be some blowback from some of her fans simply because of the GFE. But Suisei doesn't have that issue.

>>65843876
>My point always was that to say that nobody cares is retarded because some people do.
Are you esl? When people say "nobody cares" it doesn't mean LITERALLY 0 people care, it means the amount of people that care is insignificant to the amount of people that dont.

>Again if it was such an unimportant thing she wouldn't have had dedicated a stream to explain herself.
So are you making the claim a significant amount of her fanbase cares just based on that?

>>65843876
>Mikeneko got a VA role and a job at another vtuber corpo after getting fired from hololive. That doesn't mean nobody cares about what happened.
nta but you can't possibly compare that shit to the things suisei achieves on the regular lol.
>who had no business with each other at all
didn't they know each other and interact semi-frequently? also they're both in the music industry. you word it like they had never exchanged a word like how it happened with rushia and mfmf.

>>65844395
So you're saying that Suisei's fans are cucks? Got it.

>>65844005
>>65844228
>>65844301
>>65844395
>>65844401
There’s no way none of this is cope. I’ll admit when I made my original point that I don’t watch her, but come on you fuckers are so rabid that I just want her to graduate to spite you faggots. I don’t care how fake or innocent she is, you retards are insufferable

>>65844005
Actually nijiniggers were in her comment section spamming shit like they are happy she got a bf and that they don't care about those things. That her private life is not important and stuff like that.
Nijiniggers, the real ones, the ones from japan, always do these passive aggressive tactics to damage hololive. They take those chances to "encourage" the rest of holos to openly "announce their relationships".
>>65844228
She literally had to do a statement along the dude on the issue yet people here are saying that it was nothing important. I seriously doubt people saying that understand english.
>>65844401
Yes, I think it was somehow important since she had to release a statement on the matter along with the dude. You claim it's insignificant because it was revealed to you in a dream I guess.
>>65844301
It might be the case but the only one we know about happened to be a male idol sexpest.

>>65844599
Not him but I'd been following this whole interaction and I was waiting to see how long it'd take for the retarded "so theyre cucks? lolz" argument to pop up once you ran out of arguments. Who would've thought the chuuba that never did fanservice and was vastly known for her singing would not care about her personal relationships? Mental.

>>65843800
Like it or not, but the rrat was part of the reason why Miko's break was such a big deal. It attracted a fuckton of tourists whom she managed to turn into fans.

>>65844752
??? I just said it was hardly a yab and that its only consequence has been more shitposting, and now you want her to graduate? What the fuck lol.
>>65844752
Okay? How does that change anything about what I said? Nijiniggers were still astroturfing the whole thing to hell and back.

>>65844124
>Nobody can replicate Gura's personality. I can name 10 chuubas off the top of my head that are exactly like Gura in terms of personality.

>>65844834
What would Suisei have to do to make you upset? I personally can't understand being okay with your oshi hanging out with men off stream, and us being aware of it.

>>65844739
>Telling people not to feed trolls online and how to spot them is good
>WTF you rabid coping insufferable retards I hope she graduates

>>65845098
>now you want her to graduate?
The voices in your head aren't mine. I literally said that I want to go back to stop sakuma from playing suika game because I was happier before. That your schizophrenia is strong enough to turn that into "he wants suisei to graduate" might indicate you need a stronger doses of meds.

>>65845331
Anon you (or he) literally said "you fuckers are so rabid that I just want her to graduate to spite you faggots".

>>65845189
I dunno, ask hoshiyomis? If I had to guess it'd be something like going full coomerbait for attention since that'd show lack of integrity. I'm just making shit up though.

>>65844752
>You claim it's insignificant because it was revealed to you in a dream I guess.
Anon, I never claimed that, you're projecting. This is my first reply to you >>65843212. I thought maybe you would just give a solid point against Suisei's simp fans instead of yapping vague and useless stuff, but it seems you couldn't even do that.

>>65845365
That person replied to me alone and in the post the post he replied to nothing about me wanting her to graduate was said. If someone is retarded, can't identify false flaggers and don't know how anonymous image boards works that's not on me.

>>65845459
>going full coomerbait for attention
NTA, but I want this now. Not because of anything you guys are arguing over, but can you imagine how hot it would be for a prude like Suisei to do something like this?

>>65841139
>Suisei was actually yab free before that.
There were already rumors of her dating before that, some flimsier and some not.

>>65844005
>nobody gives a shit about that
Why are you lying? Twitter fucking exploded and Suisei even had to talk about it on stream. Management was working overtime trying to undo the situation.

>>65834353
Shiori was Ame's nepo hire. My rrat is that when dimitri jap came in December he started asking the girls if they knew someone with experience who could act as mum of the new gen, a gen built around fwmc (whom he found while looking through rejected applications)

>>65845582
Fine, granted.
>>65845605
>Why are you lying? Twitter fucking exploded
Yeah it exploded with accounts with 3 followers talking about how awful it was and with her fans taking the bait because nobody on twitter knows how not to do that.
>Suisei even had to talk about it on stream.
See >>65844228
>Management was working overtime trying to undo the situation
Doing what? lol

>>65845732

>all of this seething about Suisei
>nobody discussing other yabs
Hoshiyomis really are toxic. No wonder nobody likes them. But I guess the fanbase reflects the streamer.

>>65845517
You just want to believe that because she got away with it nobody cares. People care about a female idol possibly having a relationship with a dude a whenever this happens that doesn't mean the idol's career is forever ruined.
I'm not losing my time trying to change your mind as I don't care. I know there are hoshiyomis who cared as they fucking disappeared from my twitter after doomposting. I insist I want to go back and stop sakuma from playing that game.

>>65845605
>Why are you lying? Twitter fucking exploded
Actually it didn't: >>60950184 (see reply chain)
Like the other anon said, she addressed it because the pink man did it first, probably forced by Johnny, and because it'd help her bait-eating fans on Twitter relax.
>>65845888
That's usually what happens when you say bullshit anon, people tell you you're full of shit. Hoshiyomi barely even check the catalog.

>>65845888
yeah suischizo shitting up yet another thread trying to smear shit on her for no reason, this isn't new. guess /#/ isn't too interested in entertaining him.

>>65843496
Most of them don't have the benefit of the doubt, they cleared all doubts themselves.

>One guy spammed shits to make irrelevant things relevant
The irony

>>65831292
based and real

>>65846207
People insisting that something nobody gives a shit about is actually really bad are fucking insufferable. Here's the result. Twitter tranny tier behaviour.

>EOP discussing japanese things that happen in japanese

>>65845786
I mean, what source could I have? just a bunch of hints, like Shiori and Ame sharing manager, how deep the eilene family roots run, or how Shiori's pl was thinking about quitting in december 2022 ie she was in no condition to apply for advent (which realistically started when jap dimitri came in and ended in february because by may Shiori's design was already finalized AND both her and FWMC had a lot of input on their design)

>>65834051
This was only a yab to people who were already in the know

>>65836331
Wasn’t it also Mumei’s design that was leaked /here/ before release?

I made this thread expecting nothing. And instead it's just a giant shit flinging fest. I love this site.

>>65846911
NOTHING makes dramaniggers happier than being explicitly asked to participate.

This is boring, can someone make a thread about "what happened to pekomiko" or a "who's dumber aqua or luna"

>>65831018
it already happened, anon. I was one of the few who remembered the original timeline.
You have no idea how hard hololive fell after Yagoo left, of how many rushia and kronii types revealed themselves when they no longer had the holobox safety net. It took us 3 years to fully dismantle the group who forced him to step down as CEO.
I still get a whiplash when I see a raden stream and hear lui's original voice, but this timeline is far better than the one we had.

>>65847353
Good job anon, you managed to be the most mentally deficient poster in this thread full of schizos.

>>65845741
>Doing what? lol
So you weren't there, cool, I'm discussing with a newfag.
Suisei yab is known for being one of the fastest ones for management to do something about, with stuff being done outside of regular working hours. Most likely because they know what happened to Rushia when they left the talent to deal with most of the backlash alone.

>exploded with accounts with 3 followers
Are you dumb? If a Hoshiyomi felt betrayed and wanted to talk about it, he would never use his own account, he would make a new one to talk about it. That's japan internet rules 101.

>>65831178
>distract from Haato
What do you mean? The bugs were fine with Haachama since she didn't mean anything with it.

>>65848459
>doesn't say what management were doing

>>65843815
no she'd been confiding in him previously too, it wasn't a one off, and she'd been told to stop previously. According to Cover in anycase, and the drama dude confirms it himself that they have had contact for a while (they've known each other since before she became rushia). She's been implicated generally as a leak to Cover as well, so keeping her around would be a security breach.
I'd stop the Aloe yab, she could have been saved far better than she is now.
Coco is tough, its necessary to get Cover out of China, because it would only be worse later on, but to say nothing of her gen, its possible Myth and Gura in particular would have kept more motivation with muse dash perms. She never really recovered her motivation after that.

Since most of the notable hololive ones are done I'll just put this instead.

>No Millie you cannot make a "/here" stream
>No we cannot use covid as a excuse for why we had to pospone/cancel the AR Live.

>>65850710
Why would you stop any of these tho?