/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

SeikyuuVA sometimes streams on BiliBili.

So does anyone have numbers on how many views the most popular Chinese vtubers get? BiliBili seems to have that dumb point system that makes it impossible to figure out how many people are actually watching.

>>634672
How the fuck did she get away with that, thats an immediate cancellation in the west.

Rosalyn had such a good design, shame it was wasted.

>>638251
It might've worked in the west, if you're gonna do something racist you have to go so far past offensive that it's cartoonish and they won't know how to react

https://space.bilibili.com/490981706
China Weather(state-owned) chuuba for meteorologyfag

>>638251
china isn't pozzed like the west.
one of the reason why media hates china

>>638222
Views then divide it by 10/15/20 usually by 20

>>638222
It doesn't seem like they release results, but this here has comment and interaction count along with other states like superchat amount and superchatters
https://vup.darkflame.ga/ranking/month?groupby=individual
>>638251
SJWism is largely limited to Westernized types in China right now. Pic related is the Chinese idea of celebrating African culture

https://live.bilibili.com/1944820
this is chelsea. she's a sexy elder sister type with a sensual voice. she always is near the top when it comes to superchats

>>638222
depends if there's an event or not.

most popular stream at peak hours is probably 100k i'd guess. more if there's giveaways and other stuff

>>634672
https://live.bilibili.com/22608112
Ciyana streaming

>>638251
it's not like that in asia. there's blackface in jp to this day

Paimon's Chinese VA is a VTuber, here's a video of her using her salary to whale in Genshin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa6baFkZsyw
Channel: https://space.bilibili.com/11253297/

>>638251
>>639748
i don't like how this is always a focus. the good point about bilibili isn't to be racist and do political stuff. it's how they can do anime watch along and you can view it directly. it's how they aren't getting slapped with dmca for songs they sing or having to get permission to stream everything game.

doris did a stream where she watched gordon ramsay
episode which is impossible on youtube. that's the good point. not politics for or against sjw

>>639930
Yeah, but the lack of copyright also means that you can get insta-copied by someone else, product and work wise.

>>639984
they have copyright. they don't have disney and western mega corporations plugged into their website searching for sound bits to mute and images to dmca the video.

bilibili has all sorts of stuff to show who the source is and show accounts doing collabs. when there's like 5 people working on a song you can see all the accounts and what they did. not just in a small description but linked to the video

>>640078
Sounds good, I give them that.

But just to BiliBili.

space.bilibili.com
/508963009
ENVtuber Hiiro has been at this for a while, pretty popular too

>>639830
>using her salary to whale in Genshin
Wtf is wrong with VAs? The japanese do the same shit, you know the company isn't giving it back, it's not a work expense since they are just hired contractors.

>>641381
Probably genuine enthusiasm for the project

How could anyone listen to anything in Chinese. Literally the ugliest language in the world.

>>641521
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1C5411n76e
it sounds great. you just got filtered which happens due to low iq and no taste.

>>641521
with anime it can depend on the VA. I tried watching the Ne Zha English dub but had to turn it off after a few minutes and switch to the original Chinese dub. That may say more about the English dub than anything, though. I got used to it cause Mo Dao Zu Shi hadn't been dubbed in Japanese yet so now it's just Korean that sounds weird.

Ciyana is a ciecie bobo

>>641612
I admit that singing in Chinese has its charm but it gets really annoying to listen to everyday talk. Especially when they have a weird habit of speaking normally

>>641521
I wonder this myself, I'm just waiting for Hecatia stream on her twitch already.

>>641731
I love hearing Ciyana.

>>641733
tell me english or any language sounds good when you hear some nasally average sounding voice. languages sound good when a good voice is speaking them.

>>641811
English doesn't sound good to natives but it sounds sophisticated and clear to the ears of foreigners. Chinese just sounds like a fictional video game babbling language like the Sims or Orcish or some shit.
I can appreciate almost every language in the world except Chinese and Korean. Even Brazilian Portuguese sounds wonderful in comparison. Indonesian, Cambodian, Vietnamese all sound perfectly fine. Arabic is hit or miss depending on the speaker and dialect but can be nice. Nordic languages make the speaker sound retarded but at least you can pick up some words after listening long enough. Chinese is just a shit language, without actively studying it everything sounds disgusting and impossible to decipher through listening.

>>642061
trying too hard to flex such a superficial hot take. you can try and wow a brainlet by name dropping many different languages but to somebody who actually dumps thousands on top of thousands of hours studying them you just seem like a retard.

you don't have any sort of idea or understanding involving sound or pronunciation. you don't understand how people perceive language. your whole post is just an exaggerated bullshit hot take to say "I DON'T LIKE IT".

>>642256
don't get so upset zhang anyone who wasn't raised speaking your shit language thinks its shit.

>>642061
I only know 2 groups of people who gets butthurt over language.
The French.
And the Taiwanese, who actually believe they deserve supremacy over China, and they believe the world-wide teaching of Mandarin Chinese is an attack on Taiwanese supremacy.

>>641733
>I admit that singing in Chinese has its charm
It's objectively a very rythmic singing language.
Very similar trait like Swedish has.

If you ask a Dane about Swedish, they will tell you it's some faggy rhythmic language, but they make very good music.
China is kind of like that too.
And I noticed a lot of Vietnamese songs are directly copy/cover of the Chinese counterparts. So that's a big praise.

>>642293
i'm not chinese. chinese is truly difficult to hear cause the intonation, fast spoken nature, and infinite homophones. i didn't have experience with chinese media prior to starting to learn. i know what it sounds like to somebody who never heard it before and had to grind and grind. your reasoning is retarded and beyond the difficulty in trying to decipher it is wrong.

>>642463
I wonder if the Spanish spergs out over their language. Or if any of the slavic countries do this.
>>642613
To be fair some people genuinely do not enjoy listening to Chinese, especially specific accents. That style of speaking used for stand ups for example doesn't sound great to me personally

>>642674
>I wonder if the Spanish spergs out over their language
I haven't heard much. They usually just think the South Americans are twisting the language into a weird shape.

>>641521
Tonal languages are little better than caveman speak, it's really harsh on the ears.

>>642704
>twisting the language into a weird shape
Pidgin vtuber when? Can probably get away with it on bilibili

>>642739
>>641521
cringe

>>642061
>English sounds sophisticated and clear to the ears of foreigners.
It sounds like you're speaking with your mouth full of food all the time to me.

>>642610
Not the other guy.
>It's objectively a very rythmic singing language.
No, Japanese is a rhythmic singing language. Chinese just uses tones. It's not rhythmic, and both the speech and the singing are unpleasant. It just happens to be coming up in the world, so it's useful to know.

>>642674
i'm somebody who only wants to hear the sound of an anime style female voice. grinding chinese so my ears could recognize was one of the most frustrating things i've ever done in my life. not only that but i'm not even done yet and feels like i've got ptsd from it.

the actual sound of the language isn't bad. it's got many cute quirks. getting your brain to recognize it is like pliering your nails off to me though cause it just refuses to click.

Their 3D tech is pretty nice
>This is from a chink virtual idol group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7B2hEj5n_g
>and Yogiri HoloCN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT7m-GfKWgs
And so is their AR tech.
>virtual idol Luo Tianyi from 2020 new year bilibili show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBRc7bwoXLQ
>Kana from Bilibili Vox ultima 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbjiQJ_IsBg
>and everyone (Kana, hanser, yousa niji cn, etc)
https://youtu.be/QbjiQJ_IsBg?t=170

>>642965
It sounds like the same shit to me. Japanese is just a maskuline version of Chinese.

>>643024
I think revdol is probably one of the more technically advanced when they are doing things properly. All their dances are mocap
https://youtu.be/FXZ4mDJovzM
There's also an indie with rather advanced mocap
https://b23.tv/N7lV4s

>>643154
are they a chink group or mixed? I always thought they were Nip I forgot about them lol but yeah their 3D is nice too. I saw their performance before or after suisei's pieces performance
I like their cool girl song too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg3s5BVMSlY

>>643112
Just take a moment and listen to ordinary people speaking each language.

>>643112
wtf how?

>>643266
They seem to be Chinese but all the members can sing in Japanese and even stream to a certain extent. I think I can hear an accent on their Japanese

>>643373
More Tongue rolls, Japanese is like Russian mixed into Chinese.

>>643313
>Just take a moment and listen to ordinary people
If you did that, you would understand ordinary Japanese is nothing like in your anime.
https://youtu.be/QK400iXefwg?t=26

>>643154
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mE41137MT
they've got the most experience. they've also got 2 seasons of anime and another spinoff too.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ka4y1p7Jk
(cantonese song)

>>643373
I would advise you to go watch some old Samurai movies, an notice the way they speak.

Japanese was not designed by 14 year old anime girls.
Japanese was a language designed by old feudal lord warriors like them, they were in charge of things when the country was formed.

Virtuareal has one of the best Daddy Daddy Do covers I've seen
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AC4y1p7bj
Yes they can just rip scenes straight from the anime and make an MV out of it. Welcome to China.

Idk what this song is called but it's catchy and it's got Ruki.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1H54114798

>>642061
>English doesn't sound good to natives but it sounds sophisticated and clear to the ears of foreigners.
Maybe certain accents in British English. American English sounds anywhere from boring and normal to obnoxious.

>>634672
fuck off chink

>>643484
>>644411
In that video they're speaking regularly without the fake cutesy voice, it still sounds good to listen to.

>some old Samurai movies
Normal Japanese people don't speak like that.

>>643112
Like compare that video to this one, Japanese sounds like an actual language and then there's this.
https://youtu.be/WHsGO8a8WOE?t=267

>>645164
>and then there's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5TWbeav7hI
Impotent internet rage doesn't sound great in any language

>>639930
>why media hates china
China don't give a fuck about copyright. It's the ripoff capital of the world.

>>643431
Probably TAIWANESE then.

>>645164
>it still sounds good to listen to.
You didn't notice the awkward roll in their rythms? Some parts of it is completely unnatural to my ears.

Anyway, that was happy japanese. There is also a more monotone variant of it which you're not familiar with.
https://youtu.be/KjsTmCPFUWQ?t=237
Notice the awkward thinking pauses. That's also perfectly normals in some japanese conversations.

>>645249
>chooses a squeaker
Cmon, man. Not a real comparison.

>>645357
God, I hate the pretentiousness of British people.

>>645427
eh, she sounded better than the dry Monotone Japanese dood.

Yogiri?

>>645607
Echo spade is better.

We can have sex with her.

This one has some pretty nice singing.

https://live.bilibili.com/22675891?extra_jump_from=28011&from=28011&hotRank=1

Hmmm, some of these Vtubers aren't even doing the singing.
Like this one
https://live.bilibili.com/14749673?extra_jump_from=28011&from=28011&hotRank=1

She is basically just a radio station talking over the music.
Oh well, I guess so long as they have fans, it's good enough.

>>634672
When she isn't being based she is pretty cute
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19k4y117ih

>>641521
Spanish says otherwise

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1h4411S78m
watch Shizurin and Deron stand around awkwardly

>>645357
This is an exercise in futility. You can't really convince him otherwise because his argument amounts to nothing but personal opinions masquerading as fact. And he thinks posting people raging in vidya counts as supporting evidence.

Once he learns japanese he'll be exposed to people other than professional voice actors / broadcasters, and realize japanese is not inherently cool.
https://youtu.be/lhe8sRkWh5I?t=23

>>643484
Your opinion of a language is also probably colored by your experiences with people of that language, and if all you know about chinese people is that they're the ones that messed with hololive then it's not a surprise that you think that way.

>>648926
>that vid
Just like my Yakuza video games

>>648926
-is not inherently cool
+does not sound inherently good
I mixed up my thoughts. Of course yakuzas are cool, but you get my point.

>>639168
>one of the reason why media hates china
hates?
they fellate china and put down the west like nothing else it's ridiculous
they hate russia, they fucking loooove chinar

>>645249
lol underage and that mic, get a better example.

Go watch the beginning of the video to hear him speak normally before he goes full schizo. it sounds terrible even before it becomes unintelligible.

>>648926
Angry Japanese shouting sounds just like Yakuza in films and video games. Is this supposed to sound bad?

>>639830
MiHoYo giveth, and miHoYo taketh away.

>>643484
>If you did that, you would understand ordinary Japanese is nothing like in your anime.
I don't watch anime. Thanks for proving my point with your video.
>>645357
>You didn't notice the awkward roll in their rythms?
That "awkward roll" is something we enjoy hearing.
>Notice the awkward thinking pauses. That's also perfectly normals in some japanese conversations.
You mean the pregnant pauses? You're just talking about the fact that the rhythms are broken up while they're choosing their words.
>>648926
You really suck at choosing examples, man.

>>650886
>we
Who is we?
The people who love anime whom you're not a part of?
Or the people in your country on whose behalf you're speaking of?

>You're just talking about the fact that the rhythms are broken
In other words, it's not a rythmic language at all.

>>651050
>Who is we?
People who love hearing the Japanese language.
>In other words, it's not a rythmic language at all.
If people create pauses in the rhythm to think, it's not a rhythmic language?
Anon, I can't tell if you're handicapped, or just a shill.

>>651223
>People who love hearing the Japanese language.
Through what interest if not anime?

>If people create pauses in the rhythm
You don't realise the rhythm is completely random from person to person and so is those pauses?
Here is another one:
https://youtu.be/4XySzrJjVMc?t=42
Why did he need a pause before "to yu"?
Why did he need a another pause before "Kotoba ga?
Why did he need a a third pause before "dekimasu?

Don't you understand how fucked up this is?
This is like having a "thinking pause" to choose to use the word "word" in English.

>>651503
>Through what interest if not anime?
20th-century music, Enka, Mahjong commentary, Vtubers, and stand-up comedy.
>You don't realise the rhythm is completely random from person to person and so is those pauses?
Irrelevant. The language itself is rhythmic.
>Here is another one:
I like him.
>Why did he need a pause before "to yu"?
>Why did he need a another pause before "Kotoba ga?
>Why did he need a a third pause before "dekimasu?
Because he's reading off a script and enunciating his words, much like any politician.
>Don't you understand how fucked up this is?
Anon, real question: What country are you from? There's nothing "fucked up" about a pause in rhythm. Do Chinese people seriously never stop to think when speaking?

>>634672
Does anyone still have the full clip of this happening?

>>651676
>20th-century music, Enka, Mahjong commentary, Vtubers, and stand-up comedy.
So, just "you", not "we".

>Give example of one of the most monotone languages on the planet
>N-n-n-noooooo I swear i's rhythmic.

>Because he's reading off a script and enunciating his words
Whut? If anything the script is supposed to make his speech more fluid.
Why would he need additional brain power to choose the word "word"?
Why would he need additional brain power to carefully enunciate it? He literally only has 1 way he pronounce that word.

>>642613
>>643014
>chinese is truly difficult to hear
>feels like i've got ptsd from it
>getting your brain to recognize it is like pliering your nails off
Gee, I wonder why people would be turned off by such a language.

>>651676
Do you-----understand----you would---------come off-----as as complete-----spastic--------if you--------made this type-------of pauses---------------------------in english?

It's supposed to be natural to your ears.

>>651825
>So, just "you", not "we".
Read again. I'm talking about my personal interests, but I'm still under the umbrella covering "people who like the sound of Japanese".
>Give example of one of the most monotone languages on the planet
Who are you quoting?
>Whut? If anything the script is supposed to make his speech more fluid.
He's reading line by line, so no.
>Why would he need additional brain power to carefully enunciate it? He literally only has 1 way he pronounce that word.
Because we're not talking about tones. We're talking about emphasis. In countries outside China, people carefully choose their words and the ways they're going to say them. They stop and think before they speak. These are normal. You chose an aging man for your example, so he's going to be slower than usual. That doesn't change the fact that the language is rhythmic. Chinese "sing" one note for every word, but there are usually so many words in a sentence that the notes sound panicked and discordant. The Japanese have a steady flow for the entire sentence, with changes on specific words like "Ke~do" and flourishes on endings like "Yo~ne". This creates a harmonic rhythm to their speech.

>>634672
>literal designated chang and CCP sympathiser thread
Fuck off, ugly yellow bastards.

>>652031
>Do you-----understand----you would---------come off-----as as complete-----spastic--------if you--------made this type-------of pauses---------------------------in english?
If I was a 59-year old man who was reading from a script, everyone would just overlook it.

>>652031
Almost every Obama speech sounded about the same as the Abe one you posted. It may be unusual to pause that much, but I wouldn't call it absurd or off-putting.

>>652154
Nah, Some people actually use that type of pauses in everyday conversation without rhyme or reason.

>>652082
>but I'm still under the umbrella covering "people who like the sound of Japanese".
It' just you then. Almost nobody on the planet gives a fuck about Japanese stand up comedy.

>Who are you quoting?
Myself.
>He's reading line by line, so no.
Do you.... also.... make this type of pauses when you read..... words... in English?
>We're talking about emphasis.
It's not emphasis at that point. You just sound like a robot when you ... need.... random pauses.

>These are normal.
It's supposed to be abnormal to you. Westerners don't.....do.... that type.... of thing.... unless... they are.... actually handicapped.... with speech..... impediments....

>>652282
>It may be unusual to pause that much
It's unusual to you. But perfectly normal so many Japanese people.

>>652438
>Nah, Some people actually use that type of pauses in everyday conversation without rhyme or reason.
Yeah, the elderly.
>It' just you then. Almost nobody on the planet gives a fuck about Japanese stand up comedy.
I'm not repeating myself. Run my words through a translator if you failed to understand them.
>Myself.
Not seeing it.
>Do you.... also.... make this type of pauses when you read..... words... in English?
I'm not an old politician.
>It's not emphasis at that point. You just sound like a robot when you ... need.... random pauses.
...To you. However, I don't even trust that you're being sincere here.
>It's supposed to be abnormal to you. Westerners don't.....do.... that type.... of thing.... unless... they are.... actually handicapped.... with speech..... impediments....
Choosing their words? Thinking before speaking? Anon, I live in America. Those are the most normal things here. Where did you get your idea of what's normal hear?

>>652699
>Yeah, the elderly.
Lol No, you ignorant twat.
Even young people do that in conversations:
https://youtu.be/1HR2fFi29NA?t=521

>I'm not repeating myself.
Nobody cares about Mahjong commentary. It really is just you Captain Sushi.

>I'm not an old politician.
Do any.... of your.... old politicians... actually speak....like a robot?
Which one does that?

>...To you. However, I don't even trust that you're being sincere here.
You don't trust videos of normal Japanese people having conversations?
What?

>Choosing their words?
When he has a script?
Are you plain retarded? You have a script so you don't have to select between words in a presentation.

But even if that were the case, what other ways could he possibly convey that sentence?
Words like "word" usually are so basic in any lanuage that you don''t normally have to thing seconds to use them.

>>651923
you think japanese is any different for somebody who never heard it before? there's a reason why you guys are all spending a decade watching anime and doing "reps" getting nowhere. if you have to do one day hear japanese out of the blue and learn then you'll have the same issues.

>>653133
>Lol No, you ignorant twat.
>Even young people do that in conversations:
Read again. Not what I was talking about. But thanks for the clip. She looks and sounds good.
>Do any.... of your.... old politicians... actually speak....like a robot?
Which one does that?
See >>652282
>You don't trust videos of normal Japanese people having conversations?
That cements it. You're a joke of a man, if you are one at all.
>When he has a script?
>Are you plain retarded? You have a script so you don't have to select between words in a presentation.
Seeing as a single slip-up could create a scandal and injure his career, he would want to make sure he's not stepping on any landmines.
>But even if that were the case, what other ways could he possibly convey that sentence?
>Words like "word" usually are so basic in any lanuage that you don''t normally have to thing seconds to use them.
And did he change the word?

Seriously, anon. Try to find something else to sell your language on. It's just not pleasant. You can still say you need to be intelligent to learn it (as a second language). There's a reason it's known as one of the most frustrating languages to pick up.

>>653424
>i don't like chinese and have no idea about language. listen to my retard opinion devoid of any kind of linguistic knowledge.
why are you still around here? most people aren't retarded like you so their taste differs. you're only the judge in your own imagination

>>653218
I took the starter class in both Chinese and Japanese in college and dropped Chinese afterward without a second thought. Japanese sounds are much easier to wrap your head around as a native English speaker (and presumably for any European language); they operate in fixed syllables with 5 vowel sounds that all exist already in English, and the only "new" sound is the R/L in ら、り、etc., which itself is basically a fusion of two sounds that English does have. It also has kana which makes it radically easier to learn to read, though that's slightly off the topic of listening.

You can at least process a Japanese sentence after a single class even if you don't understand the words; Chinese on the other hand has tones, multiple new sounds like Chi vs. Qi vs. Xi, and more. As the other anon recognized, it takes a huge amount of effort to even have a basic Chinese listening ability such that sentences don't sound like gibberish.

Wow bilibili is so much better than youtube!

>>653547
>i don't like chinese and have no idea about language.
I've been exposed to Chinese continually since I was a child. I'm currently picking it up because it seems like it'll be useful in the future, and knowing certain characters helps me with Japanese kanji. I don't dislike it, but trying to sell it as rhythmic or even pleasant is plainly deceptive. I go out of my way to find Chinese speakers to listen to on bilbili. It's just not. The sooner you can accept that, the sooner you can find ways to sell people on the language.

>>653424
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nah, Some people actually use that type of pauses in everyday conversation without rhyme or reason.
>>>>>>>>>Yeah, the elderly.
>>>>Lol No, you ignorant twat.
>>>>Even young people do that in conversations:
>Read again. Not what I was talking about.
Are you retarded or something? I gave you an example where even a young person is using random breaks to intentionally make her language more monotone and robotic. This was because you claimed only the elderly did this, which is just incorrect.

>See >>652282
Obama was young by politician standard. And he paused between sentances, not word ofter word.

>Seeing as a single slip-up could create a scandal and injure his career, he would want to make sure he's not stepping on any landmines.
No retard, those same pauses between single words is something you people do in normal conversations too when their careers are not at stake.

>And did he change the word?
What synonymous words does "kotoba" even have? there was nothing to choose between.

>>653778
>Are you retarded or something? I gave you an example where even a young person is using random breaks to intentionally make her language more monotone and robotic. This was because you claimed only the elderly did this, which is just incorrect.
Abe's speech pattern isn't similar to hers, no. He dropped just about all rhythm from his speech. She didn't. Your comparison flopped.
>Obama was young by politician standard. And he paused between sentances, not word ofter word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7UwaWIjSXk
>No retard, those same pauses between single words is something you people do in normal conversations too when their careers are not at stake.
Those pauses are generally much shorter and less common. Even without your career being on the line, you still think about what you're saying, right? You have at least that much pride, right?
>What synonymous words does "kotoba" even have? there was nothing to choose between.
...Which is why he didn't change it.

>>653778
>he paused between sentances, not word ofter word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEo7lzfpdCU
In this speech his very first sentence takes about 30 seconds to say due to frequent pausing. But again that's not necessarily a bad thing and it doesn't sound jarring; in fact if you asked him he would say he does it on purpose to add emphasis and effect to certain words and phrases.

>>653777
>diaspora
>keep repeating it's not to my taste like we're suppose to care
>thinks learning simplified characters is going to help learn kanji
are you trying to prove you're retarded or what? don't even mention traditional or your iq score gets even lower.

the worst part of learning chinese is now i get to read posts like this.

>chinks
>in /vt/
Go back to [Chinese social media]

>>654114
>diaspora
I'm not diaspora Chinese, no. We had enough of them in the cities I grew up in for picking up the bare minimum to be beneficial.
>keep repeating it's not to my taste like we're suppose to care
Has learning Chinese eroded your ability to understand English? Reread.
>thinks learning simplified characters is going to help learn kanji
It already is. There's enough overlap that you can build off of it.

>>653956
>He dropped just about all rhythm from his speech. She didn't.
Chiigoku wo......benkyou hito ga....saikin wa.... oi....kigashimasi
There you go retard.
Robotic, monotone style Japanese.

>...Which is why he didn't change it.
That's the point of scripts. So you don't have to change the words.
But why did you need additional brain power to figure out whether or not saying "kotoba" could end your career?
>>654014
>it on purpose to add emphasis and effect to certain words and phrases.
That's a good point. But that's not what the Japanese politician nor what the young Japanese women did. All he conveyed was awkwardness.

>>654148
Why do you oppress us? We've done nothing other than appreciate chinese chuubas.

>>654247
>Chiigoku wo......benkyou hito ga....saikin wa.... oi....kigashimasi
There's still rhythm there, asshat.
>That's the point of scripts. So you don't have to change the words.
Yeah. It is. Are you new to the concept?
>But why did you need additional brain power to figure out whether or not saying "kotoba" could end your career?
Do you really think that's the only thing on a politician's mind during a speech in a foreign country?
>>654254
Probably a Cocofag.

>>654148
Hey at least bilibili don't shutdown vtuber's channel for no reason. You got to admit the western Youtube is shit quality.

>>654218
knowing kanji or hanzi to a high degree makes it learning the other one. learning kanji or hanzi to a high degree after knowing one already strengthens your perception of them.

not knowing hanzi and kanji while "learning" one to help another doesn't happen is only said by somebody who knows neither. you don't have anything to build off unless you know thousands of characters already.

this is too retarded so i'm not wasting time on it anymore.

>>654491
>not knowing hanzi and kanji while "learning" one to help another doesn't happen is only said by somebody who knows neither. you don't have anything to build off unless you know thousands of characters already.
That's the goal.
It's not like I'm taking every character I find in Chinese and assuming there's a direct Japanese equivalent. If I see certain characters in Kanji that happen to match up with the Chinese characters I already learned, it's fortunate, and I can now access more of the Japanese language that way.

>>654355
>>There's still rhythm there, asshat.
No, the breakup is meant to make it monotone and slow down the pace.
Braking up the natural rhythm you know from anime is the opposite of rhythm.

>Yeah. It is. Are you new to the concept?
But then why did you spend seconds to contemplate whether or not the words from his script could kill his career?

>Do you really think that's the only thing on a politician's mind during a speech in a foreign country?
What else could make you use 3 pauses in such a short sentance?

>>654728
>No, the breakup is meant to make it monotone and slow down the pace.
It slows down the pace, but it doesn't make it monotone. Listen again, or get a hearing aid.
>Braking up the natural rhythm you know from anime is the opposite of rhythm
Why are you so obsessed with anime? Real Japanese don't usually talk like that.
>But then why did you spend seconds to contemplate whether or not the words from his script could kill his career?
This questions answers itself.
>What else could make you use 3 pauses in such a short sentance?
Ask him.

>>654833
>It slows down the pace, but it doesn't make it monotone.
That's actually exactly what it's meant to do. Make it less rhythmic, and more monotonous.

>Why are you so obsessed with anime?
That's my line. I'm not buying your lies of not getting into Japanese through anime.

>This questions answers itself.
Not really. It's something you already thought through when writing the script.
Unless you are schizophrenic multi personality disorder who can't trust yourself.
But then you probably shouldn't be a prime minister of a country.
>Ask him.
No I'm asking you since you think this is great and natural.

>>654964
>That's actually exactly what it's meant to do. Make it less rhythmic, and more monotonous.
There's no point saying more on this.
>That's my line. I'm not buying your lies of not getting into Japanese through anime.
I first got into Japanese through anime, but I fell out from that years ago. I said I'm currently interested in other parts of their culture.
>Not really. It's something you already thought through when writing the script.
Abe likely doesn't pen all his scripts on his own.
>No I'm asking you since you think this is great and natural.
You're asking why he paused in his sentence. I wouldn't know the reason. I can't read the minds of people in old videos.

>>655818
>I first got into Japanese through anime,
I course, I knew you were lying. But it's fine, I know your type.

>Abe likely doesn't pen all his scripts on his own.
Are you saying the Japanese prime minister is a puppet who obeys scripts written by others?
It's more than likely this is simply the way he talks, instead of going into conspiracy theories.
>You're asking why he paused in his sentence.
Why he paused 3 times between very simple words.

You're trying to come up with career protection and alien abduction theories, when in reality this is just the way some Japanese people talk.

>>653586
>5 vowel sounds that all exist already in English
English doesn't have [ɯ](う) though. The closest approximation that English has is [ʊ] (oo).

>>656052
(though your point still stands)

https://live.bilibili.com/21776474

this girl made one of the most viral videos last month on the 1/31 and gained something like 290k subs in the last 16 days.

here's her viral video
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14p4y1s79u

>>655909
>I course, I knew you were lying. But it's fine, I know your type.
I didn't lie. I said I don't watch anime.
>Are you saying the Japanese prime minister is a puppet who obeys scripts written by others?
Are you a moron? Speakers reading speeches others penned for them is an accepted norm.
>Why he paused 3 times between very simple words.
Yeah. Ask him.
>You're trying to come up with career protection and alien abduction theories
Listen, I think anyone here can easily tell you're not "Learning" Chinese. It's the other way around. Your English is far too iffy to be coming from a local.

>>657277
>I didn't lie.
Yeah, you were lying and trying to imply your first and fundamental impression of the language didn't come from anime.

>Speakers reading speeches others penned for them is an accepted norm.
More conspiracy theories. And I bet you also think he had no opportunity to read through that script beforehand.
You're either implying thisis the first time he saw that script.
Or you're implying he is too stupid to read through it first so he doesn't make weird stumbles.
And you're implying he is retarded enough to accept speeches that could kill his career without at least proofreading them.

All so you can claim Japanese is like in your anime.

>Yeah. Ask him.
No I'm asking you why you didn't know this is noral to some Japanese people.

>>657277
>Your English is far too iffy to be coming from a local.
See>>642610
I'm Danish, There is actually a whole world of languages outside your little Bongistan. Not everybody in the world is a Chinese person out to get you.

Regardless you're still a retard who thinks very little of that Abe dude.

>>657474
>Yeah, you were lying and trying to imply your first and fundamental impression of the language didn't come from anime.
Wrong. I stated plainly that I'm not into anime.
>More conspiracy theories.
That's not a conspiracy theory. You can find this information anywhere. It's not just in Japan. We do it all the time in America. In every grade of school, in college, and at work. Usually, it'll be a collaborative effort, but sometimes it isn't. That's all.
>implying
I'm implying he didn't memorize the entire speech, you damn schizo. Take your meds.
>No I'm asking you why you didn't know this is noral to some Japanese people.
Your comparison fell apart a long time ago.
>I'm Danish
X
Getting this pissy over someone saying Chinese doesn't have a rhythm to it? Even though anyone outside China could easily tell you this?
Getting this ass-mad that Japanese occasionally pause when speaking when every individual in the West does the same thing?
If you're Danish, you have the heart of a wumao.

This conversation is done. You have nothing of value to offer.

>>657640
>i'm not into anime
>just watching vtuber girls with anime voice

>>657640
>Wrong
I'm never wrong about jpsie liars.

>I'm implying he didn't memorize the entire speech
No retard, you're implying Abe never proofread the speech and believe he would actually risk his career just because retarded Americans blindly follow scripts they have never read before.

Yeah, you're that retarded and absolutely done for.

>Japanese occasionally pause
SOME Japanese pause in that strange way, not all of them.
>when every individual in the West does the same thing?
No we don't retard.

>Getting this pissy over someone saying Chinese doesn't have a rhythm to it?
Nah, that's not really why you're here.
You were here to shit up the thread. The langaue was just an excuse topic.

Chinese sounds weird to Europeans because of its phonology. Chinese is a tonal language, where the meaning of words is affected by the pitch of the speaker. A good example of tonality would be how you raise the pitch of the last word in English when you ask a question, except that it applies to all words individually in Chinese. Other languages may have tonal characteristics, but Japanese, for example, is not a tonal language.
So it's normal to be weirded out by Chinese pronunciation. It's fundamentally different to everything else you might've encountered in your life, so you have to get used to it.

>>657904
I'm familiar with Vietnamese. That's probably why I think Chinese comes across as a normal sounding.

>>658004
Exactly.

>>657904
>Chinese is a tonal language
So is certain European languages.
https://youtu.be/lXp7_Sjgm34?t=58

Europe is more diverse than most people think.

>>658163
>but European languages also have some examples of pitch affecting meaning
People always say this, but it's not the same thing at all. A true tonal language has multiple specific tones that go with every or virtually every word as a core part of their meaning, not just a few specific homophones that are traditionally pronounced with certain inflections/emphasis and would be understood from context either way: as your video points out Swedish in Finland simply omits these tones but remains intelligible, which would be impossible if Swedish were actually a tonal language. Something like the following is completely impossible in non-tonal languages and boggles the mind of any westerner who hears it without being familiar with Chinese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vExjnn_3ep4

>>658482
>as your video points out Swedish in Finland simply omits these tones but remains intelligible
Nah, they would need to do it like in Danish, have some other spellings that takes the pace of the accents. But if you do that it wouldn't be Swedish anymore.
There is a reason why they call us potato-mouths, it's because their language is faggy and song-like. Same as Norwegian and Chinese.

>>658728
The point stands; even if it may cause some misunderstandings, it is possible to speak Swedish or Norwegian or any European language without tones, and it wouldn't be if they were truly tonal. Speaking Chinese without tones is utterly impossible because they're baked into every single word.

>>649071
if you only read news through /pol/ maybe, US media shits on china all the time, EU not so much

>>658849
>even if it may cause some misunderstandings,
The older Danish generation has been schooled differently than the young, and they actually understand Norwegian and Swedish.
The young generation is a different matter, it's not just misunderstanding, but something outright not understandable.
The point I'm making is Chinese wouldn't be all that alien to some European languages as it is it others.
Tonal shifts are extremly common in Norwegian too.

this is a chinese cat

her singing
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1M54y1Y7BX
her talking voice
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wp4y1X72n

>>659179
I'm scared of cats lately, because I have seen a few who turned out to be boys.

I'm a chinese dekinai so I can really only enjoy songs.
Please post covers / originals.

>>659377
some of them sing in Japanese too.

ASMR streeam:
https://live.bilibili.com/10796737?extra_jump_from=28011&from=28011&hotRank=1

>>659377
>I'm a chinese dekinai
me too

azi
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16A411W7dv
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11K4y1n7eQ

marblue
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1r5411G7Ay

yousa
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV137411v7Sf/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1w7411v7pG/

new years collab between a bunch of popular cn vtubers
https://www.bilibili.com/festival/2021bnj?bvid=BV1zp4y1W7qf

Get in here bros>>659649

She is so fucking cute. And she whispers and kisses you and pero pero licks you as well.
And she miaos.

Chinks

>>659602
Some of them are great but when I come to bilibili I want to hear chinese. Which is why it's a shame to see girls I like, like Miki from virtuareal, not covering a single song in chinese.
>>659811
Marblue one was cute. Thanks.

https://files.catbox.moe/u7l9ba.mp4
This bit that Yousa did during Macro Link 2020 was very visually impressive

>>663721
Cute.

Japanese neko loli is talking about marriage.

https://live.bilibili.com/7595278?extra_jump_from=28011&from=28011&hotRank=1

>>669156
https://live.bilibili.com/21320551
otome oto talking about japari park

https://youtu.be/5H4h0fML30I?t=7615
Macro Link 2020 full video

https://live.bilibili.com/368?extra_jump_from=28011&from=28011&hotRank=1
Oh god, this one isn't even a vtuber.

She is a real life sexual demon.

Howes anyone know how to stop these bilibili popups?

it's annoying to reach out for the mouse while I'm fapping.

https://space.bilibili.com/480432362/dynamic

Very cute milky angel

>>674388
click the 3rd button that looks like a star. the star button that's near where you'd enter chat so they're all checked. that will disable a lot of the flashing animations and it should disable the pop about her battling others.

>>674560
Forgot the image

>>674580
Thanks. I tried that, but it looks like soe popups still happens once in a while.
Oh well.

>>674720
that pop up is a contest between her and another streamer. you can gift them stuff so they win the popularity competition. you're right the star doesn't disable those versus things. it disables the flashing stuff in the chat at least though.

Cosplayer semen demon.

https://live.bilibili.com/7983476?session_id=d1e01aade46b860d_E0730433-98DA-49F6-A58D-9FD0B0FF2468

>>676766
This is a Vtuber board

>>676834
She is in the Vtuber section.

>>676855
she's in the 视频唱见 or face camera singing section. 虚拟主播 is how they say vtuber

>>658959
What you're talking about isn't tones. The only indo-european language that has tones is Punjabi, maybe those guys wouldn't be so thrown off by Chinese. Pitch accent is not equivalent to tones and is only superficially similar. The key difference is that it doesn't change meaning. Japanese has a pitch accent too but no sane linguist would call it tonal in any real respect. If you fuck up your pitches you're just harder to understand. It's more similar to English stress accent than no-shit tones that you find in Chinese.

>>659811
>https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16A411W7dv
damn I'm gonna be listening to this at least 30 times

>>677452
she's the best

japanese song
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15U4y147Ew
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa song
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ja411F77q
rap
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Pa411F7Rr
opera style?
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Bz4y167S2
her recent bilibili concert song
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1By4y1i7EL
old song 2017
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ox411g7Vc

Why do these 3D hags even stream on bilibili? The whole site feels like it's designed for weebs. Surely there's a better site for them...

>>678142
cosplay, singing, arts&crafts, and dancing. they got sections for watch alongs, radio station, and even dubbing stuff. chinese female are powerful otaku. i watched some girl vtuber putting together a gundam model before. their arts and craft stuff really makes me feel ashamed cause they're way more legit than me.

i don't watch face cams with 3d girls though. i prefer vtuber or 2d related stuff.

>>678142
Just marry a cute Chinese girl if you can't marry a western 3d.

>>678142
There's a lot of lonely, unmarried, otaku chinese man out there as a result of one child policy. It's a big untapped market.

>>634672
why would anyone watch stuff on the chink site