/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>644828
Since Kiara is immortal, she will watch all of her friends die at some point.

They got thousands of dollars everytime they stream. They are managed to a point that they get bonked real time. The only reason why they will graduate is because they have better shit that they can shill. And as far as prospects go, Ina will probably graduate because of that.

>>644828
Kiara.

>>644951
This. Willing to bet its gonna be for future drama.

Your Favorite

why are you schizos so obsessed about who's going to leave when they've barely begun their vtuber careers

Ina because of work

they all will be disbanded by some sjw shit

>>644828
In exact order from left to right.

>>644991
Nothing better to do, and a hateboner for all things western.
>>645009
Possibly, but I doubt it. She's been drawing back her other work a lot, and her roomate even ended a contract doing work for a game since Ina's making good money choobing.
>>645037
Gura's numbers make her almost untouchable and Ina can shift into Holive JP without a single problem.

>>645037
if this happens the backlash would make gamergate look like a joke

>>644828
Likely Calli, moving onto bigger, better things. Assuming she makes it big on her own.

>>645037
Do teamates really?

>>645595
Honestly this, Calli already had a very successful career, her earlier content is superior to what she’s doing now, and she has less creative freedom now.

Of all the HoloEN types, she seems like the odd man out. Ironically, she’s also my favorite of her gen.

>>645718
>and she has less creative freedom now.
I think this goes for Ame and Gura as well. I could see those two getting burnt out and frustrated with copywrite and permissions hell limiting what they can create. Ina is fine just to do her drawing streams and it probably doesn't bother Kiara much.

If no drama, Calli will just move on to other things.
If drama, Kiara easily.
If burnout, most likely Amelia.

>>645718
DD is still perfectly active so there's nothing stopping her from doing both. She started VTubing while still having "scythe swinging lessons" to deal with so even a second full time rapping job won't kill her.
Pewdiepie's been running his channel for eleven years with no signs of stopping and some of the JP senpais have been active on NND for even longer so unless the market or Cover itself suddenly change for the worse by a lot all of them could easily do this job until they retire.

If we're going crazy rrat mode Kiara is the most likely to go off to chase other dreams while Calliope is the most likely to die young from drinking too much.

>>645718
If Calli was so successful, she wouldn't be teaching little kids in Japan to survive. She already said that she never wanted to be a teacher. That was her last resort.

The amount of money that she needs to produce a decent album is only plausible if she stays in Hololive. She has more traction now so she won't do anything to lose that.

And besides, if this was really the case, then Suisei should have already left Hololive. That girl is multi-talented.

Curveball: Ame retires first through freak accident death.

>>645827
I would believe this. She likes to do crazy shit alone like boating and stuff.

>>645827
Sperging out so hard you knock over a candle and burn your house down isn't a freak accident

kiara i hope

>>644828
Gura because she feels stifled and loses interest or Ina because she realises she'd rather spend ther time doing comissions and build up a portefolio she can actually advertise.

Ina or Mori I feel like they willget bored with it and move on eventually Gura and Ame both enjoy being vtubers based on their history and Kiara is such a fangirl that I doubt she’d be first

>>645822
>teaching little kids in Japan
Weebs. When will they learn?

Gura will have a meltdown due to impostor syndrome and being unwilling to put up with corporate rules any longer, graduate, disappear off the internet for a year then come back as a Vshojo under her previous persona
screencap this

Gura is going to get killed by one of HER fans and cover is going to scramble on what to do and just force the character to graduate.

>>644828
You will

>>644828
Mori clearly doesn't care about vtubing in general, so her

Kiara is setting herself up for drama/meltdown with this Cali shit. She also seems emotionally unstable so that doesn't help at all

unless something bad happens,
mori = gura >>> ina >>>>>> ame = kiara
mori might quit because of her music career kicking off. she hasn't really shown interest in doing anything hololive related so it's possible.
gura from stress as it's clear that she's stressed out from pressure and expectations.
ina, to a way lesser extent. she loves her new fans and friends and used hololive to escape her shitty life, probably won't quit for a long time.
ame and kiara literally were saved by hololive.
ame would've probably gone homeless, and kiara would've spiraled into depression. they can't afford to quit, not like they'd ever want to leave all their loving fans and new friends. they are gonna be here till the very end.
honestly, i don't see ina having drama. ame and kiara would get unrelenting support from their fans even if they did get into drama so i don't see them quitting from drama honestly.

Kiara finally gets sick of being the loser and in a fit of kraut menhera spergout leaks the tapes of Mori and Ame saying the N word, unleashing the Vtweeter mod and leading to a cascading freefall that killed HoloEN. Hero Hei is thrilled and /vt/ becomes the highest traffic board for a day.

>>645037
3D Twitch whores already tried that last year. If they leave, it will be to retire.

>>645822
I am pretty sure she said she does not teach kids anymore now that she has more serious traction.

Gura's gonna do what she did with her old character. She can't handle popularity and will schizo out of control.

>>645818
the only ones who's roomate stopped being active are Ame and Gura all the others still do their own thing, and will probably continue doing so for years to come

>>644828
do you seriously feel the need to bring up such gloomy shit like this?

>>658915
what was her old character?

>>645595
Doubt it, she's enjoying the parasocial relationship too much.

>>645775
Laws are constantly being introduced to bring that he'll to Indies, soon there will be no place to escape to.

>>659575

>>659575
I want you to suffer.

>>659843
jannies are watching

>>644828
Kiara probably, I don’t hate her but since Drama follows her I can only see her being the one to retire. Or whoever says the N word by accident first.

>>648857
>Come back as vshito
Believable up to that point. She'll be AWOL until something makes Ame graduate unexpectedly, at which point they'll start their own chuuba agency together.

>>657315
Hero Hei is an actual shitbag

>>645718
Alternate take: DD didn’t pay the bills and she works in a tiny niche of a mostly dead genre.

>>659923
>>659843
actually i shouldn't have even asked. disregard

>drama
you do know that there hasn't been ANY drama involving them right?
all the "drama" is just shit that fags on here complain and go insane over.

>itt people who don't watch their streams

>>659941
>whoever says the N word by accident first.
3 months from now:
>Gura 10 million subs
>Best she ever was
>Starts playing competitive mp
>Get's carried away and in the heat of the moment says the gamer word
>Realizes all is lots anyway
>Goes on a full rant
>Stream gets pulled
>Youtube deletes holo channels, in bulk
>Shark gets booted
>this board gets deleted
>Gura comes around and panders to her new audience
>New /pol/ waifu

>>661318
your meds
please take them

>>661407
She's a loose cannon and knows the gamer word, It's just a matter of time.
That's why I love her.

>>661318
>this board gets deleted
if /mlp/ is still kicking around this board will still be here even for your grandchildren

>>661434
buddy
im begging you
please tell me you're not actually delusional enough to think that gura saying the gamer word will result in anything other than an apology and suspension, please

>>661318
/board

>>645827
>Ame
>Dying
I think everyone should know she's immortal via high luck stat by now.

>>645420
>Make gamergate look like a joke
Gamergate is thus far the most culturally significant event of the 21st century, far moreso than even 9/11, A bunch of anime girls getting twitter mobbed wouldn't even come close to Gamergate

>>661601
How out of touch are you, old man?

>>661643
It's true though, everything about modern culture was touched by gamergate, warped by gamergate, the minds of millions altered, radicalized and twisted. If Gamergate never happened the world would be a very different place and video games would have a lot more attractive female characters.

>>661707
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>>661728
Track the lines of causality, Everything that is the way it is today, is the way it is today because of Gamergate.

>>661747
Gamergate wasn't the beginning, it was a response to the artificially created social justice movement which started around 2012. It was around 2012 that a sudden spike of articles about racism and other -isms started being churned out by the corporate media, which has been theorised to be done in response to Occupy Wallstreet to divide people of "lower society".

>>644828
Ina. I like her just fine, but she obviously doesn't have any stake in this race, unlike everyone else. Mori left her job(s) under a threat of deportation to focus on music fully because that's her true passion, Kiara is more determined than any other EN to become an idol (and boy did she try every trick in the book before Hololive), Gura has not been known to do anything other than streaming for a while now (safe to say that her roommate was making enough Twitch cash for her to not bother with a job), and Ame is definitely the most desperate example of them all, life fucked her good and streaming is her best bet for survival.
Ina, on the other hand, is rich, very successful, talented, and set for life already. She joined Hololive only because she really liked the JP girls, and wanted to be friends with them and others, so she applied. She did say that she will be doing this for as long as she could, and I think she's not going anywhere anytime soon, but unlike other ENs, she has a real choice in the matter.

>>659941
Mori said the N-word twice in her first month.

>>661318
Ame has already said the n word, and like super explicitly too

>>644951
IMO, Kiara will be the last.

She is nothing without hololive, and has the most to lose out of all the girls. Hololive and the character of Kiara means the most to her.

Amelia is 2nd last. She was streaming before exactly the same, and her content hasnt changed at all. She is content with who she is, and now with hololive money, i dont see her leaving.

It's a tie between Gura and Ina next. Both are blase about hololive. Ina could just retire on a whim. Gura would leave once she's had her fun and wants to pursue different things.

Calli's the first to go. She's actually talented outside hololive, and strongly independent. I get a feeling she could return, but essentially take such a long leave of absence she is virtually retired.

>>644828
Mori > Ame > Ina > Gura > Kiara
>Mori
Drops out to do something better
>Ame
Burns out and uses her money to transition to another jobs
>Ina
Either gets a big opportunity or gets creeped out at some point
>Gura
She'll hang on as long as she can in because she feels obligated, but eventually realize its not worth it and drop out
>Kiara
Never leaving short of a Yab

Kiara will be here forever til she is one of the oldies.

Every other girl has reason to leave.

>>662392
swap gura and ame and you got it.

Do people seriously think that Mori could ever become a serious musician? Without her persona, she'll just be a low level, somewhat known internet rapper with a small cult following.
So basically back to where she started, with perhaps 100-200k more subscribers.
She's not good or "fresh" enough as a rapper to become a known and especially not a respected personality.

Mori so she can stream P3 as an indie.

If I had to bet with no ill will: Calli

At the core Cover doesn't offer Calli what she wants, specially since she auditioned for regular Hololive and not INNK (let's be honest, if she could stream as little as AZKi while focusing entirely on her music career she'd do it in a snap) and she been has separated her a bit from her indie friends, if Milky Queen doesn't join Hololive any time soon then Calli will likely stay there just as long as needed until she gets a call from somewhere that moves forward her music career and move on from Hololive and likely vtubbing completely

I'm worried about HoloEN gen 2 bros...what if its shit? Lightning surely cant strike twice.

>>645775
Gura straight up hates her roommate's fanbase and sees Hololive as a way to start again, no way she'll drop Hololive any time soon

Ame just wasn't successful before and didn't hesitate in dropping a bridge on her roommate the second it got a bit risky

>>645827
Well, she is cursed after all

>>664475
>a call from somewhere that moves forward her music career
That would imply a record deal from a major label or at least a middle tier one that is specialized on rap.
I don't see that happening in the near future, especially not now that she's affiliated with Cover / Hololive as a brand. She unironically had better chances before she joined up.

>>645822
You can't have a visa in Japan unless you have an actual job.

For all we know, her DD gigs might actually have been paying decent but Japan still requires you to have an "actual" job for most things like renting an apartment, taking out a credit card or getting a mobile plan.

Even Coco "No 1 super chatted in the world" had to lie in her application for her apartment because "Youtuber" is not considered a job in Japan afaik (unless you're really one of the BIG ones)

>>664520
of course it'll be shit. EN peaked in November, no way the western audience will have enough dedication for 5 more moeblobs.

Why are you fantasizing about our girls retiring

>>645037
We are the only people on the planet more autistic and fanatical than SJWs. It would be their funeral.

>>664585
I agree. On a musical level I think joining hololive was a bad career move. On the one hand her songs can now potentially get 10m+ views, but it'll never be more than that, in a sense.. She's stuck spending a significant amount of time playing bideogames for an audience of retards instead of making music and animating.

>>664758
Maybe but the sjws have the zeitgeist behind them.

>>664719
depression dopamine rush

>>644828
Callie most likely, once she feels she got enough clout for her music career.

Gura, the candle that burns twice as bright burns twice as fast

>>665034
Who would work with her, though? She wants to be a rapper, right?
What mainstream or semi mainstream rapper would work with her?
I mean, like, Denzel and Lil Yachty are huge maybes, but outside of them?
She's also super unlucky that Logic retired recently.

>>665128
You can make a living off of music without becoming world famous. Anyway, she has already worked with other rappers before, including japanese and korean rappers. Perhaps she can even break out in japan as an artist rather than america. Play the cute girl but she's rapper angle the same way babymetal did with metal.

>>665460
Japanese and Korean rap is unironically pretty terrible overall. Even fucking German and French rap are better, and that's saying something.

>>660032
Honestly, probably this. As cool as it is, DD, as you said is a pretty niche genre. Why do you think she was still doing "scythe swinging lessons" before joining Hololive? Because no matter how good you are, niche music genres don't pay well.

>>665620
i agree with the sentiment
the only japanese 'rap' that i really enjoy is some of the stuff from Moe Shop

>>661707

>>665460
Baby Metal isn't a good example here. They were successful because they were able to draw an audience out of metalheads and idolfags. J-rap does't have that kind of audience to draw from

>>665128
i love the guy but she could most likely get trippie redd that dude will do anything for money he fucking worked with ksi and bunch of other shitters.

>>665460
> You can make a living off of music without becoming world famous.
Better keep it your second job though, it sure as shit isn't a stable income. Japan's venues are less shit when it comes to paying their acts, but it's still a shit ride.

> Perhaps she can even break out in japan as an artist rather than america.
Some of the people I know over there spent a good 10 years in the same circuit she was at before Hololive without any real progress. She probably knows some of them, most of them in their mid 30s now, still doing the same fucking circuit. Fuck, I recognized the clip from Batica, and it still looks the fucking same from when I was last there with the fucking chandeliers on 1F. Once you stick around a while treading water at the same place, you become "known" and you get stuck only treading water. I honestly thought it was a smart move of her to do the Hololive thing, instead of keep treading water at the same places.
The longer it takes, the older you get, at which point the audience tends to get much younger than you, reducing the odds that she's going to break out as "not-Mori", since we're discussing that as a long term goal.
Nah, Hololive is as good as it's going to get for her, unless she does something phenomenally good. She may have that in her, I dunno. The Hololive thing is likely going to get in the way of that though. She has to invest a significant amount of time grinding for superchats, collab with talent for music for Mori, and then work on music for "not Mori" in order to get that dream going.
I just don't see that happening, not without sacrificing everything which will reduce her odds again. I'd be pleasantly surprised if she does break out in Japan. I'd root for her.
Outside of Japan, nah... "Not Mori" doesn't stand a chance there.

Gura > Mori >>> Kiara >>> Ame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ina

Can't cover just employ them as an OL in title?? Like a full time employee that does vtuber stuff. I don't understand why it's so hard. Is it because of the taxes??

>>644828
Kiara

>>644828
>mori has the most insentive to retire
NOT ANYMORE FAGGOTS
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1362016055887978496

>>657216
>she hasn't really shown interest in doing anything hololive related so it's possible.
imagine getting this BTFO