/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65967200
the Real Madrid of small corpos

>>65967200

>>65967200
Buy an Ad poorfag.

Dead subs woohoo.
The girls at least get their buttons right?

>>65967200
That's pretty cool but I don't see why that matters

They've been fine and they do well with the smaller market they have. Also helps that they have booth presence at cons in NA getting their name out there more. Cover has guest apperances that are more important, Niji does a little more with their talents at cons, but neither have the consistant floor presence at cons of mid to large sizes at NA cons.
Cover and Niji could really learn from this and should start having their own official booths at a lot more of these medium and large cons. It'd also be a good way for Cover to get some of the 'JP exclusive' EN merch to EN on their own and not through resellers.
I visited Pippa with a few other autists at one of their first cons they did. It was fun, but Pippa's content has fallen flat for me ever since she had her phase of spamming shorts and doing almost exclusively react streams.

>>65967200
4 - Phase (Pippa, Tenma, Shiina, Lia)
2 - Idol (Rin, Yuko)
2 - Kawaii (Nene, Aletta)
1 - Prism (Shiki)
1 - Tsunderia (Miori)
0 - Cyberlive
0 - vReverie
0 - V-Dere
0 - PixelLink
0 - EIEN

>>65967496
They straight up don't need to

>>65967200
Phase won the small corpo war. Congrats

>>65967677
More like survived

>>65967200
Phase is the place to be because it is attainable and they all feel like a unified squad

>>65967579
>Comiket
>Japanese convention
You dumb fuck, I said NA for a reason.

>>65967307
Their CEO said the awards are for the talents

>>65967259
So, Sevilla?

>>65967508
This makes the vdere nigger seethe

>>65967307
Lia has complained that YouTube won’t send her her button because she keeps telling people to kts on stream. She wouldn’t be annoyed about that if the corpo kept the play button.

>>65967200
Holy shit. That's 4 more than what the entirety of Nijisanji's livers have

>>65968082
This is not true. Lia sent her button to Riku as a thank you for the Pomu collab

>>65967200
The 4 pillars of Phase

>>65967200
I know we had a thread on it yesterday but it is still kind of mystifying why Phase has been as successful as they are. The general answer just seems to be "they didn't fuck up" even though right from the beginning their roster has just been the pickups and the rejects from other companies. Like 80% of their talent will tell you Phase was the last corp they applied to and the only one that took them. Yet Pippa seems to be rising to a legitimate heavy hitter, I could see her doing 5 digit CCVs in a year and a million subs isn't out of the question. I think Tenma is also a really overlooked secret to their success as she's chasing after large collabs and opening them up to other members of phase. Honestly their biggest shortcoming right now is their absolutely shit merch game.

>>65968360
It's genuinely better than Holo. I don't know why people freak out about it.

>>65968304
Phase Connect’s first army

>>65968194
retard

>>65968304
Replace Shiina with Lumi and it’s perfect

>>65967508
0 - nijien

>>65968360
>5 digit CCVs in a year and a million subs
I would have said the same before her move to the west coast but with her prioritizing her family now we'll have to see if she can manage it.

>>65968360
Fishman deals in arbitrage. He takes girls nobody else values but he does, because he knows being a competent CEO is the best thing he can do for them, and also more than anyone else has done for them (regarding vtubing).
Fishman’s theory is basically that western vtubing is as shit as it is because small corpos are mostly run by retarded weebs who don’t know business at all, which makes the poor saps who work for them go menhera. So handle the money, gtfo the way and let Muumi talk to the girls, and everyone’s happy.
>>65968423
Don’t fuck it up. I also love Advent. Frankly, I don’t think Phase inclines nearly so much without a bunch of HoloEN fans discovering the girls who aren’t Pippa and realizing Phase is a corpo with hilarious (and DIFFERENT) content. It’s legitimately not hard to like both Phase and Hololive the way it can be with Niji or Vshojo.

>>65968579
>He takes girls nobody else values but he does
This was only true for gen1 desu
Non of gen1 would be hired by Phase today if they used the same hiring standard as they used for gen2/gen 3

>>65968579
>Fishman’s theory is basically that western vtubing is as shit as it is because small corpos are mostly run by retarded weebs who don’t know business at all
But where did he learn business? I thought he was a weeb cryptobro just like all the others?

>>65967200
Phase Connect talents have more playbuttons than Niji.

>>65968653
Last I checked they still haven't figured out PL for Eimi or Hina.

>>65968653
True, but if Phase didnt hire the gen1 they did, Phase would either not be around or would be Prism size at best. It was a perfect fit and gave Phase their identity

>>65967200
Buy an ad

>>65968664
The rrat is it was something related to coffee. I think he knows the roasters who make the Phase coffee, which is why it’s one of the merch items.
I’ve also heard that he was in the import business, which I’m guessing means buying wholesale orders of the random household appliances and gadgets that you find in Chinatown stores. It would explain why he’s so obsessed with warehouses.

>>65968579
I was talking about the merch situation
>>65968664
He was an actual entrepreneur

>>65968036
>>65967259
more like Al Ahly

>>65968831
Wait, really? Hololive ships slower than Phase? I never knew that because phasefags kept complaining about it.
I know, that makes me a bad fan. I’ve considered getting merch so many times but trying to order enough stuff to get free shipping and hearing how it took months to get turned me off (especially since the coffee unironically is the most interesting item for me).
Now that I’m most likely going to move out of my apartment in the next few months, so I really don’t want to order merch right now…

>>65968483
Where's Lumi's play button?

>>65968852
>signs washed up names from big corpos so they can waste away in a foreign league (twitch)
sounds like vshojo to me

>>65968930
I ordered Kiara's birthday merch in July. It still hasn't come. Obviously there's preorder windows and once they're closed is when shit starts actually spinning, but 6 months+ for the biggest corpo in the game to get their merch for important events like birthdays out the door is fucking insane.

>>65968953
She mostly streams on Twitch, so her YouTube channel gets way less views and subscribers. I’d argue she’s as big as the four in OP too, but it’s not such an important issue to me that I’ll spend hours arguing about it with random anons. She might get it this year though, since she has 70k subscribers.

>>65968957
Considering that I nearly called Idol Ajax (former big name in the small corpo game, been going through some serious struggles—plus they have a Dutchwoman as one of their biggest talents), this is a pretty huge burn for vshojo. Even I wouldn’t go so low. Based.

>>65969022
Waiting for a year+ for merch is just part of vtuber culture at this point. Frankly I hope Sakana never fixes it.

>>65969032
Lumi is more important to phase and the phase identity than Shiina. Shiina is a nice hard working company art slave who has numbers but she is just bland. Lumi + the 3 in the op established and define phase culture

>>65968930
>COVID transport issues
>manufacturer fucks up
>delivery company strikes
>Into port strikes
Merch shipment delay was real for phase, but it wasn't something that can be expedited as a small company. It should be mostly resolved by now until the next issue, for example, anons received standies for gen 3 in 1-2 weeks.

>>65969110
All the more reason these fuckers need booths at cons like Phase does in NA.

>>65967200
nijien is big corpo but they has 0 silver playbuttons

>>65968796
>>65968664
There is no rrat, we know full well who he is, his cv is on linkedin and online. I won't mention it because dumb mods might think it's doxxing or whatever, but just check the vtuber wiki.

>>65969022
There is a reason people say that even Hololive is understaffed.
To get a product custom made and shipped is a shitton of work. It's not uncommon to take over a year or even a couple of years to get a product done in large numbers.
Thing is, most people and companies only sell a product after they already have them in stock or is already at its final stages of production and shipping.

>>65969425
That won't change the situation at all. The problem isn't shipping, it's actually getting the stuff done. If you order the stuff that they already have in stock, it will just take the time to ship the stuff.

>>65969445
Nah Riku has a bunch of them

>>65969655
You know, you just reminded me to follow him. Not because I’m trying to be a stalker, but because when I’m thinking about Phase Connect and not actively watching the girls, I’m usually thinking about the business side of things. That shit is actually really interesting. I’d love to see what fishman’s thoughts on normalfag business stuff is

>>65969374
he better do it fast because taking 8 months to ship while you sell the same goods at cons for twice the price is as scummy as it gets

>>65968040
Reina and Lua are also closing in on their playbuttons

>>65967508
Why didn’t vdere come out?

>>65967200
When Shiina looks at her play button she can see the masses of brown pedos jerking it to her tiny hands short.

You fags are insufferable, openly shitting on everyone else then shilling yourself like there's no tomorrow, I hope your CEO is paying you to do this shit otherwise i feel sorry for you

>>65972410
I don't know how to tell you this but the demons you're fighting against have long gone.

>>65972410
I see you came into the thread, hit “post a reply”, and typed this retarded shit without reading a single post.

>>65971087
Who?

>>65967496
Cover simply doesn't need to bother with small-mid conventions because they can do other shit and get better results.
Which is why you will only see them in anime expo, in KR they are starting to roll out specific merch runs for sololives, both pekora and towa had restreams in theaters.

>>65968423
>Least dilusional phaseshill

>>65967200
phase connect has zero play buttons my dude. Sakana isn't Riku and his hobby isn't tiling the toilet on his yacht with play buttons.
his hobby is warehouse staff cosplaying.

>>65975135
>>65968831
I apologise for not making it clear I guess. I thought it could be inferred.

>>65975493
They work for Phase and none of them would have them if not for Phase

>>65968360
Fishman has developed a good balance between setting limits as needed and letting talents do what they want, and he also lets them work at their own pace, which is why the 1st gen talents are still going strong. His original management style didn't work and he changed to make it work. Also, he seems to realize that talents need to be a little unhinged to stand out.

I've been watching phase more recently since they feel like old HoloEN before they sanitized.

>>65967200
Holo and Niji fans dont understand why this is so impressive
As a small copro if you can get 1 to 100k, you have made if. Growing 4 to 100k is unthinkable at this level and at the rate of turnover companies have.
Hell vrev looked like they were on track to have 2 just 1 month ago, and who the hell knows if they will ever even get 1 or if the company stays alive for much longer

>>65968229
Kek

>>65967508
Kawaii would have had at least one more with Oceane. Dumb cunt.

Phase Connect is thriving because they are literally following the Holo JP formula while being vocal about not pandering to the homobeggars. I can see their fourth generation this year having one more heavy hitter that will send them over the edge, much like it happened with Hololive's fourth generation back in early 2020.

>>65977508
>4th gen
Genspam isn’t the way

>>65977662
Phase is tech on its 5th wave of new talent
>gen1
>invaders
>gen2
>invaders2
>gen3

>>65967508
Go Idol, go!

>>65977981
Phase needs to land an actual name invader to put them over the top. If the name is big enough, they keep their ip.

>>65968423
rumao

>>65977662
It's pretty much confirmed that they are getting new talents sooner rather than later. You can see a teaser of some of them on the artwork for some of the merch from their holiday lootboxes (see: the girls on the background of this image). Of course there is no timeframe given or indication if they are invaders or actually a fully realized new generation, but the fact of the matter is that they will be a thing. The number of talents is also pretty similar to what Hololive had before gen 4 happened, so it's perfectly reasonable to assume we'll get more girls. However I'm sure fishman won't have any new people announced any time before June of this year.

>>65978176
I would be very selective. dont go after washed up lazy talent. You need someone who has buzz but also has balls and believes in the Phase project.

How many of those name talents are out there? Shondo? She is too big now there was a time Phase could have made sense a year ago, but not any more. Plus most of them are >twitch and Phase is a YT company.

>>65978176
Just absorbing fanbases is not a good long term strategy

>>65976350
Oh I fully understand. I respect that phase has thrived where several others have fallen.
That said, phase spammers are some of the most annoying people on this board and their history of relying on dramafags and other pagpag eaters to artificially boost their popularity makes me lose respect for the company as well.

>>65978463
Phase are getting 2-3 JPs soon as a part of an extended Gen3. Nobody will care because they are JP sadly.

>>65978609
You sound deranged

>>65978569
The only name that I could think of is miori Celesta honestly.

>>65978635
>Nobody will care because they are JP sadly.
Haven't the gen 1 JPs been growing in popularity recently? Having a couple more JP people might be really good for that market in the long run.

>>65978661
It's not even a secret how heavily involved dramafags and brownvtm are in helping to prop up the company while shitting on holos and Nijis.

>>65978727
If by growth you mean people watching Michiru Dark Souls and Nasa's viewership going from 0 to not 0 then sure but really the Japanese market is kind of impenetrable. Nasa is networking rather aggressively so there might be an out there but I really don't know how a JP gen can do well.

>>65978727
200 ccv doesnt mean what it used to.

>>65978830
Yes of course bvtm did so much for the company it inclined after his account got suspended twice

>>65978830
>It's not even a secret how heavily involved dramafags and brownvtm are in helping to prop up the company while shitting on holos and Nijis.
You have to be fucking insane to think shitposting and containment breaking on twitter actually did anything.

>>65978635
My rrat is that the new JPs are invaders. There are no real en invader candidates anymore besides Lisa and she wont give up her ip so Phase wont get her.

>>65978925
Unironically yes.
3 years of posting about how bad Holo and Niji are while only sharing "funny" and "relatable" memes of phase and avoiding any sort of drama from the company, helped a lot in their building of a public reputation with Twitter normies

>>65978830

>>65979057
Bro

>>65979072
Need me to pull up a Holofag shitting on literally anyone else

>>65978609
Rosemenei is also a possibility if niji en implodes.
If niji en implodes, there are too many bigger talents that vshojo would rather get available, vshojo can absorb only so many people at once, that they smaller niji will have to look else where.
People forget that Rosemenei is a former tsunderia member who is still friends with dizzy and ember which makes joining phase a good likely hood.
She may even got Petra and other smaller niji to cone with her.

>>65978669
makes me wonder how superstitious fishman is

>>65979057
You're either retarded or are one of the bvtm people yourself trying to credit the streamers' growth to your twitter page.

>>65979250
He's clearly a /#/monkey who bases his perception of vtubers on drama and projects that view onto the average human being

>>65979072
So this is the true face of phase fan huh?

>>65978463
>I'm sure fishman won't have any new people announced any time before June of this year
Yeah if he can keep his own mouth shut

>>65979022
>>65979078
You heavily underestimate how easily people are influenced by the shit they read and see. When you're constantly putting others down while picking someone else up, it makes the person you're picking up look a lot better.
>>65979072
You can literally see an example of it here. Dramafags do this shit 24/7. The second anyone from Holo or Niji have anything to say about anything, dramafags are on that like hawks and people go
>I don't like that vtuber because there's so much drama associated with them!
These tweets weren't just reaching a small audience, some of the tweets on the first account had several thousand retweets and likes.

I'm sorry but there is no way I can give my full respect to people who relied heavily on astroturfing their success by using accounts like bvtm to try to drag the competition down.

>>65979354
Yes and /#/ is the true face of a Holo fan. Western vtubing is unsalvageable.

>>65979072
Why phaseniggers are always like this…

>>65978569
Things can change in a month, but right now there is a lot to like about Phase.
If NIJI had a drop, Phase could make a play. Pomu is a .01% shot, but if Phase made her a godfather offer she couldnt refuse…she is the kind of girl that could look at a project on the come-up like Phase and want in.
You need someone that wants to elevate and make a place a better. It takes a special someone. That person isnt available atm and may never be.

>>65979388
Do you actually believe bvtm is run by Phase Connect

>>65979229
>>65979427
Cease this retarded bullshit. This is literally Lisa poach posting in 2024.

>>65979400
JPchad's status?

>>65979388
And you are overestimating the reach that 4chan and related shit has. Do you really think that gen 3 has been as successful as it is because of shitposting, rather than the gorilla marketing campaign made to shill them by their own company?

>>65979427
>she is the kind of girl that could look at a project on the come-up like Phase and want in
Have you actually ever watched Pomu you triple nigger?

>>65979072
yikes

>>65979513
Lisa is an oblivious part time streamer
Pomu is a serious professional and a diamond. She isnt gonna give a fuck about poach shit she has been hearing it her whole career from places much bigger than Phase Connect

>>65968194
Seethe

>>65979456
Run by? No. Heavily associated with and even liked by some of their talents?
Yes.
It's not really a coincidence that the one time they tried to make fun of anyone from phase it got taken down immediately by other admins on the account with a full apology issued for it.

Phase girls literally follow and like tweets from the account from time to time as well. It's a shill account for PC no matter how you look at it.

>>65979517
Look at 5chan. It's so over. Vtubing needs to be burned to the ground to be saved.

>>65975729
retard-chama, why brain too smooth to understand joke?

>>65979072
Why the most infamous schizos have very high chance for being a phasefag?

>>65979072
>>65979354
>>65979418
>>65979591
>>65979653
How many times are you going to reply to your own post

>>65979526
Part of the shilling comes from accounts like bvtm and other dramafags. When you report only positives and never talk about any out of context clips or things said on Twitter spaces or people who they've interacted with while leaving out any sort of problems the company has it's very easy to make phase look like some kinda 10/10 corp where everyone is happy 24/7 and nothing bad has ever happened, ever.

>>65979526
This was said in pcg after Lia got 100k
>we got Lia to 100k, now we will get Panko there too
These retards think they will girls to playbuttons. It wasnt the vedal collabs, content improving, Pomu collab….it was vt. All vt. Shitposting on vt.

>>65968360
Good management. Early Phase wasn’t that well managed but when Muumi really came in and helped manage the girls things changed for the better. Phase is a company of talented menheras that just need good management to really shine that they didn’t get from either previous corpos or from being indie.

Just look at NijiEN for the opposite, Lazulight and Obsydia were inclining and then they had a massive hit with Luxiem but their management is so incompetent and outright harmful that they’ve cratered from where they were. They’ve already lost one of their largest male talents and Nina who was one of the larger female ones and it really is looking like Selen is on her way out too.

>>65979513
Lisa is a lost cause anyway, she's down and out.

>>65979513
Anon can you read?
I said "if niji en implode". That's a big if even now. Unless it gets really bad, Rosemenei is in a good position to coast on her current popularity for years comfortably. I don't see her leaving unless niji en really starts dying hard.

>>65968653
Shiina was going through it as an indie before phase, Erina had either very little or no streaming experience, and Eimi and Hina are also both brand new to streaming.

>>65968653
The hiring standard for gen 2 was shit then because we got Rie.

>>65979768
pcg’s oshi is pcg. I have never seen a more masturbatory thread where the posters are in love with themselves and thinking they are a key part of the show.

>>65979072
Not surprised.

>>65979653
>pandering to 4chan
well about that…

>>65979903
>brand new to streaming
lol
lmao
This will look silly once their pls are revealed. We didnt know Panko or Rie’s PL until like 7 months later

>>65979970
The most correct anon in this entire fucking board. Just yesterday there was some schizo saying that they were working on some spreadsheet of all the "notable /pcg/ people", which is utterly deranged if true. I feel like most of the people over at /pcg/ are the ones mad that the community isn't divided into unofficial fanservers they can shit up like with hololive and niji, so they just jerk each other off on the thread instead. Most if not all of them are on the official discord server anyways, doing the same thing.

>>65980071
Eimi's PL isn't even hard to find, but anons over at /pcg/ were too retarded and focused on the dog and the dogfucker pre-debut that everyone missed it.

>>65979969
Hiring her was the deal for her wealthy parents' investment in the company.

>>65979903
>Hina
>no streaming experience
>8 days into her run witth the company she has Pippa at her house and is doing Pippa’s first ever Phase offcollab
Not only does she have experience, she is a Pippa nepo hire.
Time will reveal her PL.

>>65979072
>Phaseshills are Holo-anti
Oh well.

>>65980274
>parents
>plural
anon, your Hime reps...

>>65980413
I know I'm just a literally who but thanks to them I unsubscribed some girls from the phase lol.

>>65979903
If you think Sakana just spent 6figures+ on a new gen and hired rookies with no experience (when the 3 rookies he previously hired give him mega headache) then I have a small bag of $35 coffee to sell you.

>>65980732
yeah iirc the 3 hires with no experience were Lia, Uruka, and Airi.
Airi has some kind of preexisting relationship to Sakana. She is confirmed to have been at a company dinner with Sakana, Lia and Uruka back in August 2021. She had no reason to be there.

>>65979072

>>65979072
Nice try

>>65979586
Who knows one day Pomu might get tired of playing it safe and take a chance outside of nijisanji
Phase will let her keep her playbutton without question

>>65967200
Why does Shiina have so many subs? I can understand the other 3

>>65982075
She hit the jackpot with the shorts algorithm.

>>65982075
shorts

>>65982075
Shorts merchant. She got called out for doing the Yuko trick of tagging Holo in her shorts, and then all of the sudden the subs stopped flowing

>>65978176
>If the name is big enough, they keep their ip.
That has nothing do do with it, it depends on the contract with the former company and/or negotiations between the two companies. It's called IP for a reason, it's someone's property.

>>65982117
>>65982126
>>65982151
So they are dead subs. I see.
Shorts are cancer

>>65982195
meh
Not that dead

>>65978862
Nasa has hitting quite high (600-1k) views on her livestreams recently during december. Might be due to the networking and new followers but its interesting how she is growing again suddenly

>>65982286
Nasa was quite literally the 2nd worst Phase member in December.

>>65982286
All girls have been getting insane ccv. Panko has been >1k for hours now, playing an rpg kind of game

>>65982286
raids
>>65982330
She's kinda stuck since she can only gets numbers when streaming to EOPs but those EOPs are unlikely to become loyal fans. Personally I think she should just bite the bullet and start streaming at JP hours to build up a fanbase that actually understands her.

>>65982330
roca and coni fell off

>>65982330
>2nd worst Phase member
imagine doing worse than nasa oh nononon

>>65980071
>We didnt know Panko
You mean three days?

>>65982330
Lumi just needs to pick a hand: are you twitch or are you youtube?

You are not Tenma who can pull off both.

>>65978176
Vshojo gets all the big names that want to be part of a brand and keep their model, Phase gets the scraps from failed small corpos.

>>65982595
Baiting Phase with Vshojo doesn't work anymore

>>65982573
Lumi has been streaming at least 3 times a week on youtube since she graduated grad school. She hasn't really grown on the platform anymore than she would have via clips/shorts and it has kinda been a waste of her time.

>>65982330
if Phase Connect can master the art of viewer funneling, they could have a very formidable squad. Need more people starting at 5pm & 6pm imo.

>>65982808
Overlap Connect will never master anything tho

>>65976350
>Don’t understand this
This is why newfags are the worst especially phasefags. No small corpo has been as down bad as the small versions of Hololive and Nijisanji. They didn’t balloon into existent out of nowhere. It was 2-3 years minimum of their first talents doing what they can. No shorts, no raids, no bigger corpos or Gawr Gura to work downstream from. No Kaguya Luna and Kizuna Ai didn’t count

>>65977284
To be fair Oceane’s claims against her came from her genmates and the implication that she might’ve been in the group against Nene. It just seems weird that she A. Used her work account and B. Stopped after getting fired instead of going even harder. Then gen 3 blamed her as the reasons they were distant from the other members just to lie to them and leave. Fool me once and all that

>>65982808
They are cleary tackling the EU timezones with the new Saya > Hina > Ember/Panko/Tenma/Lumi pipeline.

>>65982943
Holo and Niji worked in a completely different market. By the time EN vtuber companies started popping up the market was already fully saturated by Holo.

>>65982707
That anon said Phase needs a big name invader, is there any reason a 4view indie or ex-Niji would ever want to join Phase over Vshojo, or Talent Management companies like Mythic, MSM Talent, etc?

>>65967200
they paid for subscribers. this doesn't count.

>>65977981
>Gen 0 (unofficial) - > Gen 1 - > Gen 2 - > Gamers - > Gen 3
That’s 5 as well with the start of Gen 4 coming at the end of that year not to mention the worse decision that faggot Yagoo ever made. If phase doesn’t have any releases ready in the next 2 months then Hololive was faster and if you’re a faggot then it’s faster regardless of what they do

>>65982978
Im talking about the overlap everybody hates: 7pm-8pm-9pm

>>65967200
yeah and hololive has mainstream recognition and concerts in some of the biggest venues in Tokyo

>>65982978
Phase prime time
>Shiina
>Lumi
>Lia
>Runie
>Dizzy
>Pippa
>oh and Muyu might do a 6 hour gorilla
>oh and a Fillian collab once every other week
>and sometimes Hina or Uruka will join in
>and Jelly

>>65979022
Nta but help doesn’t mean always mean it’s working. He turns people that weren’t going to watch hololive in the first place off while preaching to people that already watch phase. It’s like dramatubers thinking their opinions on this board or in general matter

>>65983312
Prime time is where the big boys play. The weak should stream in EU if they are afraid on competition and want easy numbers.

>>65983131
Idk. Realistically a ~800 viewer streamer with name recognition would already be a very nice get for Phase. Unless Filian decides that Mythic isn't working for her and she actually hates the Twitch vtuber scene I don't see them getting anyone much larger.
Absorbing big names never was the goal anyways. It was just a hassle free way of taking two abandoned girls under their wing.

>>65979775
This is the schizo other anons were talking about. The thread was praising phase now it’s trying to tear down other corpos

>>65979970
>>65980123
I prefer that over the schizos doing gay rp. It’s probably the third best general thread which is sad. I can understand loving your oshi but some of these people take being a vtuber as their only personality trait. At least become actually tries to become the vtuber even if they should be locked up in a padded room

>>65978569
If she wasn't doing her own thing, I'd honestly suggest Fishman try to snag Riifu

>>65967200
Do they get actual buttons too?

>>65982330
People making shit up about vtubers and their corpos because they don’t actually watch them. I wonder who could be behind that

>>65983236
This isn’t an actual holofan

>>65983114
>don’t understand why this is impressive.
This is his exact words implying they’ve never experienced having 13 viewers for months at a time. Reaching 100k is still considered impressive in Nijisanji

>>65983428
>>65983131
Have you thought about going outside the box? Someone big name, or more accurately relatively well known, that isn’t a streamer. Quite a few big females in the anime space that aren’t streamers

>>65983708
>>65984143
The thing that makes Phase solid is it is a nepotism company.
If you look at the 23 talents, I bet 15 of them have ties prior to being hired

With Invaders, the thing that is common is they are friends with Phase. Yuri didn't work out because she is a dolt and blew it. Ember is the one who felt like a weird tagalong at the time nobody really wanted her but w/e nepo connect.
>Lumi: had pre-existing friendship with Pippa
>Yuri: had pre-existing friendship with Pippa, Tenma & Lia
>Jelly: had pre-existing friendship with Lumi & Shiina
>Dizzy: had pre-existing friendship with Sakana and was already a Phase manager
>Ember: had pre-existing friendship with Dizzy & Lia

>>65980424
I will not

>>65984277
>With Invaders, the thing that is common is they are friends with Phase
this is why Shondo made sense at the start of last year. Again, not any more she wouldn't gain much.
So, who are the big famous vtubers that have Phase friends (as in actually collabed) that Phase could make a run at if they became available?

>>65984512
notables
Filian - knows half the company at this point
vedal - Lia
onigiri - Tenma
Pomu - Lia
Henya - Pippa & Tenma
Rosemi - friends with all of Gen1; but might have some bad blood with ex-tsun girls. miss me with that "but Slugma told her to go to NIJI!" bullshit
Scarle - Lia

most of them are Twitch, which doesn't benefit Phase that much.

>>65984765
there is a better chance of Pippa going to vshojo and Lia going to NIJI than Henya or Pomu going to Phase.

>>65984765
You are aware that vedal isn’t a girl or real right?

>>65984765
>phasekeks want: Pomu Rainpuff
>phasekeks get: Sayu
just fuck my shit up

>>65983312
That's Overlap Connect for you

>>65968040
Not a Vdere fan but production groomercord cant go belly up fast enough nene is trash and thats the best girl you have.

>>65985101
Nijinigger pretending he is any better. Who mentioned Sayu? Why do you guys worship your company so much? Whenever someone leaves, they're dead to you.

>>65979628
when someone says something good about you. you like it occasionally. why are you rrating this up in your brain? judt because that cursed account likes phase, which by the way many anons have the same opinion on, doesn't mean it's run by or associated with phase connect. you should see how delusional you sound.

>>65983312
here let me fix it
>Muyu at 4
>Runie or Dizzy at 5
>Shiina at 6
>Lia at 7
>Runie or Dizzy at 8
>Pippa at 9
>Eimi at 10
>Uruka at 10
>Airi at 10

>>65985169
>Not a Vdere fan
yeah okay pal

>>65985317
>>65983312
the thing that fucks up prime time overlap is unexpectedly Pippa jumps up to 7-8 for giga collabs + Phase itself runs company sponsored collabs.
They fucked Runie over so hard by streaming a company christmas event up against her very first stream. Was the most bush league thing I saw last year imagine canibalizing a new debut's 1st stream.

>>65985169
This you?

>>65985317
Uniorincally they should slot someone at 9PM against Pippa.
Pippa has raids turned off, so there are free raids from Shiina, Lia, Dizzy, Runie for the taking (right now they are gonna go to Runie and Dizzy because Lia only streams for 90 minutes and Shiina usually 2 1/2 hours)

>>65985191
I will challenge that statement with hololive, phase, vhsojo, kawaii, nijisanji, the chinese, and idol. You wouldn’t know this though because you hate watch niji and live off the catalog. You might get paid more with a real job instead of living off the dramatuber discord

>>65985317
the girls themselves seem like they are trying to police it with how they take days off and stuff + Dizzy has flirted with moving up to 6pm and Lia is gonna try 1am on Friday's for yab streams (although Lia said she will give it a month and people dont show up, she'll drop it BUT her last 2 1am streams did very well considering it is way out of her timeslot)

>>65985668
Qrd?

>>65983644
>I prefer that over the schizos doing gay rp
Nigga /pcg/ is gay rp central.

>>65967200
PHASEMPERORS

>>65986040
guy went out of his way to heckle the Kawaii booth in person at ANYC

>>65985668
no im not asian

>>65986519
clip?

>>65985524
pissing off production groomercord is a good thing dont need to be a fan of Vdere to do that

>>65982225
A lot are and she knows it. She had gradually been building CCV all last year and got the same buff most of PC has had in the last couple months.
The big sub growth from shorts did not result in much CCV up though. It mostly just resulted in browns informing her in the comments of how much they like
to jack off to her hands.

>>65986265
What possesses fags to do that shit because it didn’t used to be like that. It started happening in all the small corpos almost simultaneously and I know for a fact 2 of them weren’t like that to begin with. They even tried doing it with the bigger corpos but kept getting banned

>>65982151
shiina paid the price. the 100k happened so fast she never celebrated it, and it dropped her out of the algorhythm at about 120k so nowhere close to 200k.
pippa, tenma and lia had like a week long party for theirs like it was a true earned thing. shiina's came and went and nobody noticed.

>>65986745
https://youtu.be/2OHDj_1dkl8?t=2452

>>65982330
>Kattarina that low
What a shame, I remember when she used to be the face of /jidf/ back in the day.

>>65985101
>Sayu
NO! No we won't! Sayu is boring and it would be fucking stupid to have a Saya and Sayu! Getting fired from Niji is not a personality fuck you Sayu.

>>65987196
that is sad. Her degradation ASMR she did a while back is one of the best in EN but she hasn't done anything like it since.

>>65987196
>that low
anon that is actually Katta's best month ever. she usually is down at like 60 ccv avg for a month.

>>65985774
Most vtuber fans will not outright hate talents that leave. They may not love them, but Nijiniggers outright HATE anybody who leaves. You will do the same to Pomu and Selen if they leave.

>>65987466
Phase hates Yuri.

>>65985005
>vedal isn't real

>>65987518
Yuri outright scammed her fans as far as I know. But I'm not Phase fan, so I can't say much.

>>65987518
not true. lia likers still keep her spot in.

>>65982330
which site did you use to make this?

>>65968360
Phase connect is a coffee seller that does vtubing on the side similar too how Hololive is just the side operation of a company that develops motion capture

>>65987652
the main brown autist in numbers does it

I'm surprised yellow Vei still doesn't have her plaque.

>>65967200
How did wonton girl not get clowned out of this hobby

>>65989406
Sadly, the EN fanbase is filled with cucks. Few are more experienced with this than Phasefags

>>65989406
The company's name is Cuck Connect so im honestly surprised she isn't the most popular there

>>65977662

>>65967259
KEK

>>65967259
Does that make Cyberlive the Deportivo? Idol the Atletico?

>>65967508
Phase will add 3 more in 2024

>>65985274
>account constantly shits on everyone but phase
>admins literally delete and retract negative statements about phase
>account literally shills phase
>only phase girls really like the account
Hmmmmmmm...
Im no conspiracy theorist but dontcha think that maybe theres a correlation there?

>>65983482
NijiEN doesn't need the help "being torn down." It's an objective example of bad management to contrast the good management of PC.

>>65967200
buy an ad

>>65994045
In all honesty there's shit you can criticize NijiEn for absolutely but half the shit is like
>OMG NIJI IS SO BADLY MANAGED BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE 3D
half of phase don't even have 2nd outfits let alone 3D.
Some of the shit I heard about Niji literally was dramafags scrolling through /#/s and taking inside jokes as facts.

Phasebros we got too cocky

>>65967508
Aletta...roru

>>65982151
>She got called out for doing the Yuko trick of tagging Holo in her shorts, and then all of the sudden the subs stopped flowing
It's so funny because nobody even cared about this but Shiina herself. I wonder if it was even her or her editor Yuuki that tagged it. He also made shorts for idol.

Oh god no you fags already made a /#/ split for JPs for no reason. Please don't make another split for small corps.

>>65994468
3d is a meme

>>65982151
I know nobody here actually watching anything but the least you could have done is a minimum amount of research.
https://www.youtube.com/@AmanogawaShiina/shorts
>exactly 1 short mentioning a Holo, Ina, and it barely has views
The only short she made that blew up was the one about her small hands, with 2.7m views. Youtube tried to algo two others, but they only got 1.2m views and it seems that's when it stopped.

>>65995351
she edited it. there was a shitstorm in pcg about it.

she also tags pippa in her shorts.

>>65994838
like i wrote: shiina paid her price for trying to cheat. her 100k came and went and nobody noticed.
pippa, tenma and lia got theirs the right way and they got to celebrate in style. they got their respect and their flowers.

>>65995519
And somehow after editing it all its views were erased, I see.

>>65995971
she edited the tags in the ones that hit, bozo. no matter, again she didn't get to celebrate her 100k. she took short cuts and that is what she got.

>>65995605
??? All the other girls also made shorts, it was pushed by the company, they actually don't care about it.

>>65995519
>shitstorm
lol
lmao
It was never anything more than the usual Shiina schizos (like you) who seethe uncontrollably and spam multiple threads about everything she does.
>>65995605
Pippa used same meta tags in her shorts as well and made multiple shorts about hololive, yet apparently you don’t consider that “cheating”

I really want to have sex with Runie

>>65982943
>The companies that built this culture should be held in a different regard to the new companies blooming from what they started

Yes anon I agree with you

>>65996176
Runie is rusing us so hard right now lol

>>65996176
>>65996375
umm this is a thread to talk about streamers who have playbuttons. Where is hers? If not, go back to pcg pls

>>65996424
this is a phase thread bucko

>>65996424
>looks at list
>Pippa, Tenma, Shiina, Lia
>no Runie

https://youtu.be/PaQ5Kb7bVV4

>>65983367
Honestly this. Everyone shits on "Overlap connect" but I'm confident it's an actual decision the company made. In the U.S all these girls are streaming 5pm-12pm which is our prime hours for media consumption.
If one girl stream, and then another, and then another but you only watch the 5pm girl and the 10pm girl you'll probably just watch 10pm girl, or worse, get caught up in something and watch the vods later.
But with all the girls streaming in the same time it can be like an event, if one stream is getting dull you can just change the channel to a another girl and back and forth. Plus the boards and discords will fire up if a bunch of deferent fans are all watching at once.

>>65995351
It was the tiny hands short, but there were likely others. It doesn't matter at all, that's why it's funny that she or the editor removed it.
>>65996099
No you guys that can't laugh at a vtuber taking a tiny little L are the schizos. Shiina doesn't want you to take her so seriously you know.

>>65982943
Justice for my WIFE!

>>65979775
Especially lately all girls have glowing talks about management and it really makes me wonder if that's the big difference between Phase and other corporates, even Niji.

>>65987195
Nene a pro.

>>65997618
Phase is riding a high. The pendulum will swing the other way it always does.
Remember Idol "we are are a talents first company. we spare no expense. we protect our girls. etc etc" in June and then in November they take one of the biggest L's ever seen.

it just depends on who is disgruntled and who fucks things up for everybody. Odds are it will be 1 of the 2024 debuts. Unfamiliars who get invited in are always the ones who fuck it up.

>>65996591
Seething at phase kwab
phase corpo domination

>>65998025
*2023 debuts

>>65997750
pro black company groomercord whore kek

>>65998150
>barley over 1,000 viewers
>in primteime
>in her seond week of streaming with mega buff still on
>after Phase Connect just spent huge money promoting her and her gen
this isn't the slam you think it is, anon

>>65997115
So much better then her current model

>>65998353

>>65998281
Runie should be doing the best of Gen3 and should be around 1200-1400 every stream. If she is around Shiina, Lia, Lumi size, that is a disappointment given how much money was invested. If Phase spent that money to re-debut shill those 3 they would all probably be 2k+

>>65998353

>>65998281
oh but it is anon the fact you got nothing to show is even more funny

>>65987466
>Idol - riro
>Phase - yuri
>Kawaii - vdere
>Vdere - Kawaii
>Hololive - kson
>Vshojo - Silver, Nyanners, Nazuna, Vei
>Pikamee - ex company (only one in reverse)
>Chinese - don’t remember her name but all over catalog
Unless you’re going to say 4chan and twitter doesn’t count then you have no leg to stand on for nijisanji either. When someone leaves the company that made them only for them to start up again like nothing happened way better off than they were before they joined a company tensions get high. Though kson is a special case as it only came about when she totally didn’t shit on hololive with her this corpo is so great speeches or vtubing will die if everyone doesn’t become like vshojo. That was more a response than actual hate in the beginning

>>65998353
She’s the only one that distance herself from her model so at the very least being fired was complete shock to her and something she wanted to separate from.

>>65967200
same vibes

>>65998025
Thing is the new girls have all had an entire year to fuck things up at this point.

>>66001530
Not really. The fuck ups don't start until you go live.
That is when mistakes, ego and stuff starts to get in the way. That is when whales are identified and groomcords get set up.

My money is Saya, Hina or Jelly is the next one who fucks up and is out. Jelly just because of bad attitude.

>>65999186
>Vshojo - Silver, Nyanners, Nazuna, Vei
I assure that vshojo only hates Silver because she said some shit when she left. They still love Nyan and are indifferent to Vei and Nazuna.

>>66001711
Jelly is disagreeable which really all of them should be if they don't want to end up like Shiina who had to slave away during the new years. Sakana said Jelly is "businessey" which is probably a compliment from another business person.
The only one I can see starting anything is Saya due to obvious reasons but Phase has had more members be more menhera than her and came out fine so I doubt anything could really happen.

>>66001530
Yuri was fine until her redebut was shit on and she stopped caring. She got lazy and stopped covering her tracks; no longer caring because she didn't want to be Yuri anymore
unforutnalty for her, she signed away the rights to her IP, not that the IP itself ever matetred she didn't care about Yuri...but she cared about the twitch and twitter accounts. she lost 30k twitter followers and 15k twitch follows. would have been a nice way to start as an indie.

>>66001962
jelly has an ego and will be the next one to leave phase.
she showed her ass during the ama with sakana when she acted like she does extra work and deserves special treatment than the other girls, and fish shut up bitch ass up on the spot.

>>66002153
Are you supporting slave labor in 2024

>>66001962
>want to end up like Shiina who had to slave away during the new years
Shiina is getting paid for her work, almost certainly more than she would have made from supas during that time.

>>66002346
nta Jelly gets paid for her music & editing. Jelly has among the worst supas in Phase and doesn't make the company any money, so she is likely making more money from Phase for her music producing than she will ever get from actual streaming.

>>66002493
Maybe she should marry me and move out of her SEA shithole so she can stream at prime time and get some actual money. Man I want to FUCK Jerry.

>>66002493
Jelly's fans are autistic and donate through gifteds or streamelements

>>66001962
Jelly can eat a dick (mine) if she thinks she deserves more because of extra work she is already being paid for. Streaming wise, you should be paid according to how much money you bring in. I am sure if bothers the shit out of her that there are more successful girls in Phase than her and they work half as hard and have half the talent, but that's life.

>>66003022
>this cope
literally every girl has those. supas are usually a great indicator on how things are going elsewhere. I bet she has the lowest membership in EN by far.

>>66002954
>stream at prime time and get some actual money.
it is a tradeoff.
jelly is in her timeslot because she is in 3rd world. while she doesn't make a lot of money compared to the rest it is still likely enough to live on her own because she is 3rd world. if she moved to a 1st world country she would make more money in a new timeslot but the cost of living is so high that she would actually be worse off.
lia is a top 5 earner in phase and still lives at home. airi is a top 3 earner and works 2 jobs.

>>65967508
I hope Kawaii threw Aletta award in the trash.

>>65979072
https://files.catbox.moe/s4t2dn.webm
phase chads explain?

>>66005624
I guess she probably never got it. She quit like a week after getting 100k

>>65983114
>Holo and Niji worked in a completely different market.
The real difference is that Holo and Niji have 200mln$ revenue and spend literally hundreds of millions of $ on marketing and shills, Niji spend over 100mln$ last year alone
Comparing a billion $ media conglomerates to indie vtuber companies is just silly, like comparing your local store run by a granny to Walmart

>>65979775
them losing popularity had nothing to do with management. the chinks abandoned nijien and due to it they lost a good bit of their popularity.

>>65967508
Cheri Lupina From Vreverie the black company was just 14K AWAY OF A SILVER BUTTON and she gained on average 7 to 10k viewer per month such a shame

>>66005624
>upload a video of nene destroying it with a big hammer
heh nothing personel, whorse

>>65979072
Phase niggers are the new nijifags.

>>66011079
>and spend literally hundreds of millions of $ on marketing and shills
The fuck are you even talking about? Holo and Niji never needed to spend a dime on marketing, they were just in the right place at the right time, and the youtube algo did the rest.

>>65968423
maybe in 50 years

Who?

>>66014121
anon doesn't know sora had only 13 viewers on her first stream.

>>65979072
Are phasecucks all pagpag enjoyers?

>>65978176
There's no way big indies want to join a company especially phase. Streamers reflect their viewers

>>65987195
why does he act like a retard? wouldnt surprise me if he wasnt an anti but an actual autist

>>65983644
Kek

>>65984765
>Vedal
Okay you're being so desperate kek

>>65985005
A chatgp fag

>>65968423
Imagine having someone like pippa in your corpo

>>66016101
It looked to me like he wanted to be mean but the fact that he’s autistic

>>66015383
They had to be here longer than a week to know that

>>65980413
Always have been

>>65987518
Yuri posting occurs every other day in /pcg/ albiet poster is high as a fucking kite with crazy moods. The dismissal via popular opinion was reasonable.

>>66017316
The beginning of Hololive was a huge grind, they have plenty of interesting stories about how they persevered. For Niji I personally don't know the difficulties their EN branch had?

>>65987466
I don't hate Nina, or Yugo. I didn't care about Mysta leaving but apparently he did shit as Kuro to lead his fanbase to Ren's actually Twitter and his fans spamming Ren about it in his pre-chat. Niji management is bad somewhere up in the chain and by a manager basis, but Zaion isn't exactly squeaky clean as well regardless of their silly list for her termination. I don't think even Nina/Matara likes her now.

Jesus fucking christ terminate Kyo and Luca already.

Phase is the best en small corpo ever, but at what point do they stop being considered a small corpo?

>>66022229
when they have a consistent 5-view on board

>>65980410
her voice and way of speaking reminds me of that hapa tiktok carpark review girl, but she has nearly 1m followers on tiktok so dunno

>>65968360
Pippa's out of the blue success combined with a CEO who knows how to advertise.

Pippa is the perfect example of being the right person, in the right place, at the right time. Vtubing was still on the rise in the west during 2022 and Pippa through the power of a unique personality and networking was able to grab the kind of audience who would never EVER care about anime girls playing minecraft:the genre otherwise. You can say what you want about her as a person And I'd fully agree as someone who really doesn't like her content , but you can tell she's a pure natural at being a streamer and cultivating an audience online, one of the best of any small corpo IMO. Add on a CEO who knows how to capitalize and turn one talent's growth and connects into something a corpo worship culture via merch memes and collabs, and you have everyone else growing as a result.

Just look at gen 3, debuting right after the vtuber awards and getting filian of all people to shill was able to have the entire gen stay 4views weeks after their debut.


TL;DR: having a talent like Pippa, solid management, and a CEO who has actual experience running an entertainment business.

>>66023381
>at the right time
holocouncil wasnt as good as many thought it would be too

>>66023381
>Just look at gen 3, debuting right after the vtuber awards and getting filian of all people to shill was able to have the entire gen stay 4views weeks after their debut.
idols gen2 was the same situation and now look at them

I like how every other small corpo on this board gets relentlessly shit on and hounded by ESL dramafags looking for posts to screenshot on twitter, while Phase has constant dickriding numberfaggotry.

>>66023573
>holocouncil wasnt as good as many thought it would be too
hot take but advent wasnt as good as it should have been too, shiori and nerissa should have been other people desu. I still cant believe that the only one that can actually make her own music joined in myth and no one in the later gens cant do it, even on the JP side they dont hire people that want to create their own music, it is fucking weird

>>66023720
>quality = making music
???????????

>>66023741
well shioris and nerissas qualities is not high views or streaming so they are quite useless
>but nerissa is a cover singer
kinda useless if you compare it to someone that can shit out albums cheaply instead of having to hire professionals for everything

>>66023720
>Spoiler
What? I agree to a certain point with nerissa but everyone else in advent has blown Sana era council out the water. If Advent was an actual letdown it 100% would have been the killing blow to EN.