/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>66435256
Marine deserve the Most Sub VTuber crown more than Gura

There I said it

>>66435256
two more viral videos and it's over

>>66435256
Yeah and she's also gonna beat Gura's sub count

>>66435256
She is definitly comming again for and from the shark cunny.

>>66435330
Coldest take in existence

>>66435256
Chumbuds, it's gurover

>>66435256
she deserves it. Love me hagtubers, they care about their fans

>>66435256
Marine deserves it 100x more than the shark does.

Took 1.5 years from 2M to 3M, but those last 500k came in less than 6 months. Senchou grows even faster than Advent, she could really get Gura's crown this year.

TICK TOCK MARINE YOUR MENOPAUSE IS COMING FOR YOUR EGGS

>>66435256
Kizuna Ai bros…

>>66435256
well deserved. hope she can make it

>>66435256
Gura is taking time off streaming because she now has a child and is trying to hide it. Tick tock Marine.

>>66435568
>>66435915
stop calling her a hag. 30 isn't old

kys yourselves stupid fucking chumcucks

>>66436817
LMAO

>>66436817
You and Marine must prepare for Carousel.

>marine is the first jp to reach 3 millions.

current state of pekora mental health?

>>66435256
I think Gura would like that. Gura never wanted to be the most subbed vtuber in the world.

>>66436817
>taking meme buzzwords seriously
I expect nothing of jpnigs

>>66435330
this shouldn't be controversial at all

>>66436943
Very happy for her dear friend

>>66437247
pekora has no friend.

>>66435256
That’s unironically what she wants

>gura and mumei stream consistently for like 1 year
>"my time here is done"
>marine streams consistently for 5 years
>"arigato, I will have 5 million subs watch me minna-san!"
Why are w*sterners so fucking lazy?

>>66436973
Says the guy that throws a fit over getting called a pedo.

>>66436817
30 is old, society lied to you. I believe university should only be 2 years and highschool should end when you're 16. People shouldn't have summers off it should be like japan you just go to school for all but 4 weeks in a year. Get people educated faster, get them out of school by the time they're 18, if they want further education they can go to grad school for 2 more years. Enough of this "babying people until they're 30" shit.

>>66437291
>>marine streams consistently for 5 years
Marine is worse than Gura and Mumei. She streams like twice a month for past 2 years.

>>66437298
Um, what?

>>66437291
marine streams 5x less than pekora

>>66437355
She has streamed 20 times in the last month alone though, chumbud.

>>66437377
It's a buzzword that you take seriously despite criticizing others for taking buzzwords seriously.

>>66435256
cool, we could use more popular holos who don't stream

>>66437298
projecting I see. also that hag literally just did a cover of the pedo anthem, Gura is still above her in this regards

>>66435256
She would definitely deserve it more. Pekora must be seething though

>>66437397
Damn AquaMarine are really impressive with those stats.

>>66437486
But you're the one that's projecting it and I called that out.
Marine's latest song was a flop solely because it featured Gura.

>>66437397
Too bad we were talking about gura and mumei.

>>66437447
So wait, because they call her a hag, you accused them of being a pedo?
kinda retarded if you ask me

>>66437581
Why are you taking buzzwords seriously?

>>66437618
Dunno, last time I checked, "Pedo" isn't a "Buzz word"

>>66437353
The human brain isn’t fully developed until 25.

>>66437686
Define buzzword, pedo.

>>66437686
People definitely use it like one

>>66437554
Mumei still streams way more. Only Gura is bottom of the barrel.

>>66435330
there's 5-10 holo members that deserve the top spot more than gura, take your pick

>>66437397
Marine really doesn't deserve any of her numbers. She does basically zero work.

>>66437353
don't care what you wrote, didn't read it. I'd much rather have a comfy "hag" with a fun personality than a mentally ill, pedo-bait alcoholic M.I.A shark

>>66437795
koyori did 581 streams in one years. wtf. had the streams as a guest and she probably did 2x streams per day. that's crazy.
kaela did less streams but streamed more hours. do these girls have any social life?

>>66437994
>had
*add

>>66437795
man, I feel sorry for Kiara looking at those numbers. She works so hard. Why don't people like her? I think she's pretty neat

>>66437729
Sigh, sure dude, what ever you say

>>66438242
Her ego is her hubris. She works hard because she wants attention. That's not inherently bad, but after a certain point, it starts consuming you...

>>66437397
Quality over quantity

>>66438242
i like her when she speaks in a lower voice which is rare, sadly. Same for suisei, when she dropped the moe voice (due to medical reasons) she gained viewers.

>>66438242
You notice that those who work hard never get results. It's all the lazy one note trendchasers like the one in the OP that get all the attention

>>66435330
I can think of a dozen Holos that deserve it more than Gura, not just Marine.

>>66438242
If she used her normal fucking voice her numbers would be fine

>>66438242
If it makes you feel any better Kiara is one of the highest earners in Holo EN and is currently having sex with Nerissa's face

>>66438242
Kiara doesn't care about quality, she wants to be a singing idol? thats cool but not doing anything to improve her skills is not. You can say Kiara lacks working ethics in some sense

>>66435330
>Somebody who streams deserves the top spot more than somebody who doesn't stream
That's so crazy it just might be true.

>>66438912
But Marine doesn't stream. See >>66437795

>>66438546
Blame the Japanese.
We will never get natural Towa.

Marine simply has the most normalfag appeal in JP

>>66439076
Streaming is not her only task.

>>66436690
She's dead bro let her go

I'm just glad that, that lazy shitty shark is gonna be dethroned of all the hologirls she's the less deserving of success

>>66439076
>117 streams
that's like one every 3 days, a perfectly respectable amount lol.

>>66435330
I adore Gura, but Marine does deserve more.

>66437355
Fucking Retard, you don't even deserve a (You)

>>66439076
She‘s busy with her projects

>>66435256
yeah, i'm the one making her come
help please, i'm dehydrating!

>>66439076
Does anyone know why Marine hasn't been streaming much? Her streams are always so high energy that it feels like she's a lot more present than she is.

>>66440024
Throat problem.
Busy with recording for 3D events, radio, sponsors.

>>66440024
Approaching 4 million subs is a curse that causes vtubers to not stream.

>>66440188
Didn't know that Mumei was approaching 4 million subs

>>66435330
No, Pekora deserves it

>>66438597
>Marine
>trendchaser
Not even a clipfag

>>66440024
Poor health condition for the last 2 years, first was her throat nodule, then COVID and now esophagitis which causes severe coughing, on top of that she has to record the radio show with Fubuki, be a guest at the 3d lives of other Holos and record sponsorships.
Marine is far from lazy as some niggers here accuse her of being

>>66441131
>esophagitis which causes severe coughing
This thing sucks, my mother has it too. You never truly recover, only stabilize it. And the diet is pretty rad (in a bad way) as well.

>>66437795
>Gawr Gura
>Only 35 streams in 2023
>Ayame streamed more than her

Just graduate already

>>66440024
Part of her job is help Cover shilling HoloX and now, Regloss.

>>66435256
When will she have her Sololive? It's been long overdue.

>>66435330
There's dozens of holos that deserve it more than Gura. Pandemic tourists are the only reason she has that much in the first place. Had nothing to do with talent, just normies during those lockdowns a few years back going "woah is that the meme shark girl i saw on the front page of reddit?"

>>66441131
She also seems to do a lot with other members offline too, I hear a lot about her from other members.

>>66435915
>YOUR MENOPAUSE IS COMING FOR YOUR EGGS
So am I

>>66437353
Dumb zoomer. You're going to be freaking out when you reach 30 and have a gigantic midlife crisis due to this attitude.

>>66437795
>Gura was beat out by the official Hololive channel in streaming hours, but beat Haachama who was literally was on hiatus for 8 months
Jesus, shit is grim as fuck

>>66437283
>That’s unironically what she wants
Oh get fucked. This is the worst rrat of all the rrats this idea that Gura doesn't like being the biggest streamer in Hololive. If that was the case then by all means, explain why she decided to "return" to streaming when advent debuted? She overlapped streams with other girls deliberiately, she's a cunt. She absolutely isn't some girl who just can't handle the pressure of the most subbed member.

>>66438242
Because she's a fucking asshole. Also the annoying voice, which she for some godforsaken reason puts on deliberately.

>>66442695
when will you retards stop this overlapping bullshit, gura doesn't care about your 2views advent whores.

>>66435256
Surely Gura will come back when she's no longer the most subbed chuuba...

>>66435256
she'll yab or burn out herself before she gets there. besides Gura will be back this year and start racking them up again. I mean jesus christ, Marine has had 2 fucking years uncontested to close the gap with ZERO CONTENT from Gura and she's still 1.5m away.

>>66441362
ayame often joins collabs on other channels so she appears much more than gura.

>>66442695
you rrat pushers are so retarded. Gura clearly, blatantly, OBVIOUSLY, was told by management to stream that week to get more eyes on Advent. We all know a lot of chumbies only watch Gura, so she comes back, they come back, they get Advent recommendeds, voila. It's not rocket science you stupid fucking troglodyte. She streamed in the same timeslot she always does. As a great philosopher once said "move bitch, get out the way."

>>66445712
And Ayame does long member streams while Gura hasn't had a members stream in half a year.

>>66442695
it's not a rrat, she has made it pretty well known she doesn't like being the biggest. She hates the attention and the spotlight, she never has milestone celebrations, never talks about numbers, and if its ever brought up she immediately deflects.

aside from gura, sub numbers dont really mean anything after 1.3M or so. marine gains subscribers from mainly tourists who watched her music videos these days and they dont watch streams. so her ccv hasnt really changed. also this means the vtuber industry hasnt grown greatly anymore.

>>66435256
only two more years

>>66437553
Bit becausd ir featured Gura but because Gura x Marine love song was completly unatural. Shinkiro is an actual bop but gane off just leeching from both sides. I onions this as an ichimi.

>>66446182
how was it unnatural? they both adore each other and have talked about it many many times

>>66435330
all the Holos deserve as much success as Gura has

>>66435330
can't really argue with that since the former streams and the latter doesn't

>>66446369
Chit chats are nice and all and listening the both about their opinions on each other was great, but for a love song that goes about a lifetime encounter that changes you forever? No thank you, I cant get off the feeling of “oh, this is just fanservice” that doesn’t really resonates with you, hell, Gura barely tolk about the song.

>>66435256
It'd be the best thing to happen to Gura, she never wanted the title of most subbed holo.

What are phaseniggers deflecting from now?

>>66437397
Hot take. I don’t like VTubers that stream all the time. I can’t keep up with that. They aren’t my reason for existing. And having them as background noise is a no when I want to listen to music most of the time.

I’m not going to sub to someone who streams all the time because I’m going to just not watch most of their shit and their streams being so long means I might as well just watch fucking clips post-stream to get the funny or interesting moments.

So yeah if I’m subbing to a VTuber it’s because they stream only like twice a week max and they don’t do long-ass streams. Then I can actually participate and feel like a part of her community.

>>66435256
yeah coming on my massive cock

>>66436817
Hag, I can save you

>>66437353
University is absolutely 3-4 semesters of useless filler classes to tick boxes for funding so I'm all for this

>>66435256
how come I never see Nijisanji subs vs Hololive subs threads

>>66435330
congrats you have a functional brain

>>66435762
Wtf, it can't be 1,5 years. I remember when Pekora and Marine were both racing towards 2M subs, and Pekora is still at 2,4M

>>66447596
You can just not watch them when you don't want to. Streaming is like any skill and the ones that stream frequently are better at it.

The pirate is gonna catch the fish...
Haha good one amirite boys?

>>66435330
literally every holo deserves more success than gura, especially marine and pekora

>>66435330
Marine is a whore. And I remember when people were super weird about Gura becoming the most subbed chuuba almost immediately. They didn’t even acknowledge it and made her feel like she didn’t deserve, even the holos were like “it’s not a competition.” No wonder Gura is so self conscious, she’s been unnecessarily scrutinized from day 1.

Fuck all you fags.

>>66437353
>highschool should end when you're 16.
I graduated high-school at 16 with pretty good grades and it all went to the shitter with uni. people unironically do need longer babysitting.

>comes back to sabotage advent
>fucks off forever
she will do the same to marine

>>66435330
cold take but correct take. but honestly anyone deserves it over gura. the fact that its my girl marine is just a bonus.

>>66438242
chicken voice and stubborness. i love her to death, but if she just spoke like a register lower and stopped being obsessed with trying to break into mainstream music circles she would be a lot happier. i think its also hard because so many of her coworkers do so well without even trying or do anything. basically, kiara is the nino to gura's ai hoshino. read like the last three chapters of oshi no ko to get an idea lol

>>66435330
i couldve said this, but in a much more cooler way.

>>66450278
I agree, it's always sad to see hardworkers get fucked over. I don't really watch her but I never understood where her antis came from

>>66450278
>spoiler
>required reading to understand his schizo take

Furthermore, Kiara's voice is cute

>>66450752
its not required! and it isn't a schizo take. kiara has said herself that she wanted the new album to appeal to non otaku or vtuber people. kiara's voice is not cute to me, but i suppose it is an acquired taste? i knew her from before hololive so thats the voice i know and like.

>>66435330
Even some homos deserve it more than Gura.

>>66438242
narcissist with chicken voice

>>66438242
she should take Adderall before streaming

>>66438242
Self-absorbed and nasally voice.

>>66435256
Gura doesn't mind. Look at how many projects she's done with Marine. More than any other JP.

>>66435256
The fans choose who deserves it.
Marine is at the top of JP.
While Gura is still at the top of EN.

>>66437397
>Bijou #2 in en despite starting halfway through the year

My cute hard working gem wife.

still too far, 2 streams from gura with 3 clips talking about her hiatus and shes hitting 5 million

>>66435330
>>66435256
what is the holo vs holo shit, you fags really should get your own board

>>66435330
gura is probably the vtuber thats most carried by her model in the entire industry. you could have the personality of a rock and that model would still get you 1m subs easy. it is the very definition of the word "sex" the pinnacle of man's rive to impregnate fertile female women.

>>66440000
you've got these nice digits and nobody checked them, what a shame

>>66437795
>Kaela stream time
how does she do it bros?

>>66439076
Marine actually shits out music on a conveyor belt at least.

>>66456322
completely wrong, it's the exact opposite. you think Kiara or Bae would have her subs if they had her model? fuck no. But give Gura a shit model she'd still be #1. She's just funny and entertaining, she'd have blown up even if she had a dumpster model like Sana or bland shit like Zeta.

>>66438242
>Bad streaming voice + bad personality
Gee i wonder why….

Gura would probably throw a party if someone overtook her sub count.
She hates being the "greatest vtuber"

>>66437831
There's easily 15

>>66435256
If Marine surpasses Gura I'm going to spam Cookie threads and remind everyone that she's miles ahead in subs

>>66440303
Both of them deserve it more than gura does.

Maybe the "burden" of being the most popular Vtuber being gone is what will make Gura wanna work again

>>66440024
>it feels like she's a lot more present than she is.

Because she is? Maybe she doesn't stream as often on her channel (it's still higher than gura's frequency) but if you take the appearances on other channels, in lives, or promotions and radio she's quite active. Unlike ENs.

>>66461467
>shits out music on a conveyor belt
She released two songs this year one of which wouldn't have happened without Gura. That's not "shitting out music on a conveyor belt", it barely qualifies as drip feeding.

>>66435330
brave and powerful

>>66445947
>Source: saw it in a dream

>>66462710
I subscribed to Marine because I saw her on a different channel, but was pretty disappointed when I saw how little she had in her own archive.

>>66435330
not controversial in the slightest.
better body, better boobs, better age, better songs, better thighs, better tummy. but i wish she was hard S instead of M

>>66437833
She does more work than Gura.
Also you're a retard.

>>66435330
>>66435666
>>66437055
>>66437397
>>66437795
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>>66464396
>wage cucks think popularity or likeability is based on clocking in and streaming length
No wonder you're stuck in 2-3 view hell. Replying to yourselves or being that "nice guy" to that girl from your high school got you no where.

>mass replier
lol. not reading

>>66438773
Personality still sucks though. I don't care how her voice sounds if she's basically just ME ME ME all the time.

>>66456322
Lol no

>>66465736
Fag

>>66465713
Why do you chumfucks hate Marine so much?

>>66440024
She suffers from depression. It's obvious when you watch her streams.

>>66466660
because chumpedos are the worst fanbase

>>66437355
>She streams like twice a month
So better than Gura's entire last year not counting August.

>>66435530
We don't object because Gura herself probably want this to happen. Numberfags on the other hand though...

>>66435256
Maybe Gura is just waiting for someone else from Hololive to surpass her so she can return to streaming without the stress of always being better than everyone else.

>>66435377
heh

>>66436938

> Fish, plankton, sea greens... protein from the sea!

>>66466660
Marine is talented though, are 2views really trying to cope that only hard work will get them into holo?

>>66473567
Literally who has said anything about hard work? Several anons said Marine deserves it more than Gura and that made you mad but now you're saying Marine is talented.
So does she deserve it more than Gura or not and why where you mad in the first place?

>>66448659
YouTube shorts really helped take Senchou's sub count to new levels last year. And good for her, because she uses that space really well for fun little videos.

>>66473751
lol

>>66474391
Marine deserves it more than Gura. This statement makes you mad.

>>66436817
For a woman it's old, the asians are right about the cristmas cake

>>66448659
I love them both but I think Pekora has hit her ceiling because she hasn't been doing new stuff.
Marine constantly pumps up new hit songs which accelerated her growth.

>>66467075
What does she have to be depressed about though

>>66470697
does a higher sub count make you better?

>>66436817
Women are in their sexual prime from 14-25. That’s just a fact liberal.

>>66476154
This type of shit that management pulls out of their ass

>>66478879
coco shouldnt have fucked with my oshi xi and the ccp reddit bro

>>66435330
Based, and marine is also one of the best singers in all holo

>>66479515
Gura is better.

>>66476154
"Boo hoo, I'm young, rich, sexy and famous, I'm so sad." God I fucking hate women sometimes

>>66470697
I always ask this question every time someone makes this prediction; what happens when another Holo passes Gura, she starts streaming again and inevitable overtakes them once more? Won't that make her feel worse?

/vt/ isn't gonna give Gura any merit. The consensus is get her out like a methhead celebrity continuing to use her status to make excuses or just leave already.

>>66476154
It's not necessarily that she's depressed, I think she just has periods of low energy or mood where she streams less frequently. Fans of her will know that she's spoken about these kinds of mood swings before, most recently with Okayu on the New Years stream. Part of that is because of her age but I imagine it's also health related. She's been dealing on and off with health issues for the better part of the last 2 years now and it's gotta be frustrating. I also imagine doctors are telling her to rest her voice, which is hard to do given that her voice is her job. But then she has moments where she's very excited, and you can see this on stream sometimes. Whenever she's excited Marine has a habit of bobbing back and forth, and if she's doing an at home 3D stream it's easy to see.

It's not really depression it's just a combination of health problems and the normal ups and downs you get with this kind of "stream when you like" schedule that Cover has, outside of official collabs or sponsors.

>>66476154
Literally nothing. She's just a typical entitled woman who has never experienced any kind of hardships in her life.

>>66483486
some chumbuds use normie-level excuses to justify gura's lack of streaming. reasons like physical/mental health issues or family drama.
if gura came back to stream when someone passes her and then disappears again when she overtook that person, it confirms that numbers are the only reason she's streaming. it will quickly turn public opinion against her and chumbuds can't astroturf as normies anymore.

>>66435256
>holo vs holo
Who is graduating now at kurosanji ??

I look forward to the day Marine or anyone else takes the crown from Gura. I hope it alleviates whatever stress she has and that she'll get comfortable enough to stream more. If she's still lazy after that then jokes on me I guess.
that aside, how many subs do you guys think Gura would be at now if she never fucked off and actually made regular content?

>>66435256
Marine said she has a bunch of wild shit cooking for this year. It might happen sooner than people realise.

>>66490975
ieither the game she's working on, an album, or her first sololive. maybe all three of them.

>>66437397
>>66437833
she has a radio show as well that has 100+ episodes

>>66464396
why? gay.

>>66479851
she's kinda old, at this point.

>>66490975
j..just you wait for guras projects shes worked on for the last 2 years theyre gonna come out this year for sure

>>66491591
What hypothetical project could she be working on that would be worth the two year wait? Even if she somehow released her own triple-A game, I'm pretty sure her fans would have preferred that she streamed instead.

>>66435330

>>66467075
She talks about wanting to kill herself a pretty alarming amount, honestly.

>>66492065
She bipolar or something? Hololive feels like the mental health version of katawa shoujo sometimes.

>>66492813
Maybe. I'm not sure she ever has anything that looks definitively like a manic phase though. As a streamer she's encouraged to exaggerate and emote a lot but she generally seems pretty in control of herself. Therefore I'd say bipolar is less applicable to her than some more generic form of depressive disorder.

It's hard to diagnose someone with only their stream appearances and what they're willing to talk about in them to go off of, though. You're missing a lot, and especially with how Marine talks about being unwilling to stream when she's in a bad mood you get a pretty biased sample.

>>66493093
Not going to pretend I know anything about psychiatry, but I just watched a clip about Robin Williams and she reminded me of him. I just hope she doesn't spontaneously graduate or worse.

>>66493245
Williams had a neurodegenerative disorder, that's a pretty different circumstance.

>>66449426
>They didn’t even acknowledge it and made her feel like she didn’t deserve [it]
She didn't. Based senpai giving the lucky upstart her just desserts.

>>66449426
they acknowledged the fuck out of it, what is this EOP garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI2i1yztRMY
look at this short she just released, these things just print subs

>>66495397
yeaaaah shit is cute ngl
kumarine for the win

>>66495643
But she doesn't get hours watched so not a top vtuber.

>>66488848
It's irrelevant. Gura (and Mumei as well) only want to coast on memberships and merch sales. They don't need to make content to live super comfortably.

>>66484659
/vt/ is full of jealous femoid, the same people who hate pewdiepie just because he was once the top subscriber.