/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Holy based

>>67467943
Typical bitch that got offended and thought "I'm going to humiliate this guy on social media!" What an insecure cunt.

based

>>67467943
Should really be saving this tactic for big donos that get charged back. This just makes her look petty.

>>67467943
Based

yikes disgusting cunt

>>67467943
Based on what?

>>67467943
anny is a whore

>>67467943
This is how it should work.
It's not a donation, it's a superchat, it's supposed to be a chat that receives some level of attention assuming there's a reasonable amount that can be addressed.

>>67468217
eh, works the other way around too. $5 is easy to lose.

>>67467943
girl's posting about a guy refunding $5 on Twitter (not fucking X)
Unironically, the only thing more petty would've been if it were a $2 donation or some shit.

>>67467943
really bad optics

>>67468334
If this was a donation through something like stream labs there is actually a $15 charge back fee for the one receiving the money, so Anny lost 10$.

>>67468312
the most you should be expecting from 5 bucks is "thanks for the 5 bucks"

>>67468728
does that mean viewers have the power to bankrupt any streamer they might gang up against?

>>67468312
Technically the only thing you're buying for a superchat is a bigger chance for yourself to be noticed by chat, not the streamer. Your message appears highlighted and stays for quite a long time, so Youtube has successfully held up its end of the deal. The streamer (if there even is one, and it's not just a running stream) has no obligation to even notice it came in.

This one can only be refunded because she's a twitch vtuber.

>>67467943
I kneel

>>67468779
Yup. Happens quitte often, but usually if it racks up too much of a fee for the creator to the point it's an obvious organised attack they can fight it.

>>67468769
Thats a good way of not getting 1000 people to send you 5 bucks and instead having 4 people do it

>>67468050
I like Anny but she has Vedal and his AI, she doesn't need you simps anymore

>>67468312
You pay for your shitpost to be highlighted a funny colour and be pinned to the top of chat for some minutes. Financially speaking, the transaction is with youtube, and you get what you pay for in terms of changing the look of the chat UI. The streamer themself doesn’t owe you shit and Google does not contract them to read or respond to anything.

based for holding her accountable
cringe for bothering for only $5
cringe for taking back what should be charity

>>67467943
I see nothing wrong. No need to shame someone for $5.

>>67468878
Cool story sis. It's vtubers, not some amateur news stream

>>67467943
cringe bitch

>>67468779
That's why many only let you donate $15+ or have a cool down on donos, some Korean girl got like 50 $2 donos on twitch last year which were all refunded, the guy said he was mad she hid her tits and it cost her $750 in withheld donations while she fought it.

>>67468728
Not a big difference, but she lost $15 not $10. She doesn't keep the dono.

>>67467943
pretty based

>>67469841
true

Would love to see the question

>>67470174

>>67467943
based

>>67467943
unfathomably based

>>67467943
answer the question next time, whore

>>67467943
>white
>whore
>uses language and emotes from black culture
the trifecta

>>67467943
Wait you can refund superchats? That's stupid. The point of a superchat is getting more exposure on the post and you can't give the exposure back for a refund. It's like going on a restaurant, eating, and then demanding a refund. You already received the service.

>>67470210
based

>>67467943
Kek she Anny has a bit of an ego on her. It was fun seeing her mald about ironmouse during the canvas event.

>>67467943
what a douche, you don't guarantee an answer for throwing money at them. hope the fag got banned

>>67467943
lmfao of course that daph chink is crying in the twitter replies as well

>>67467943
Who?
What?

>shaming on twitter
fucking hate this shit
you just give attention to trolls

>>67470174

>>67471492
>it was just a random question
No negativity today. Find her channel, block it, move on.

>>67467943
I mean, yes? The entire premise of a superchat WITH TEXT is to make a statement/ask a question
Are american women so entitled they feel they can be paid for a service, not complete that service, and STILL keep the money?

>>67467943
What a lazy petty cunt, if someone pays you five dollars to ask a question the least you can do is fucking answer it.

>poorfags think this was a superchat

Brothers, your YouTube superchatting culture is different from Twitch donations culture. You seem to expect your idols to reply to every superchat for some reason but on Twitch it's just for shit posting.

>>67467943
That's a legitimate reason to do so.

>>67467943
Ken what a bitch

>>67471629
Yes, they are that delusional.

>>67467943
Why are men like this?

>>67471847
?

>>67471693
So it's common culture on twitch to just throw money at some narcissistic bitch who thinks they're too good to respond to the question you wrote because you "didn't pay them enough"?
No wonder twitch is the home of the most pathetic simps in vtubing.

>>67471847
*women

>>67472027
Um sweaty you're not allowed to say simp mmkay

if your sentence starts with "bro" and ends with the skull emoji, im not reading it

>>67468050
Just don't be a karen and you won't be made fun of

>>67471629
>american women

>>67471492
Stop interacting with this nasty whore please, my beloved shondo...

>>67471492
wow it's even a harmless question

>>67471629
Try that with Youtube and see how that goes. This is just greed because they don't want to give Twitch their cut so they used 3rd party.

>>67471492
Geez the dude was just asking a simple question that would have taken 10 seconds max to answer succinctly, not everyone is intimate with the knowledge of how twitch works. What an absolute cunt.

>>67472027
If there was a pie chart on Twitch income, donations and subs would be near the bottom. One 1 hour game sponsor can equal more than $5000 to vtubers of anny's size. So if you're a smaller vtuber, you would most definitely be more responsive to donos. But for bigger creators, it's really up to them on how they want to approach it because it isn't necessary to.

>>67468312
>It's not a donation, it's a superchat
It's a donation

>>67472346
Youtube runs a charity?

>>67472191
drop her already bro

>>67472314
Why would anyone even ask such a fucking stupid question in the first place? Paying money to say retarded things does not make you right. Just more of a target of riddicule

>>67472371
It's Twitch. Also yes.

>>67472346
it's a tip. not a donation.

>>67467943
Who?

>>67472444
Stop being a bitch anny.

>>67467943
That faggot is literally acting like a Karen

>Paying money just to ask things you can google
>Being able to refund small donations in the first place
I honestly expected less from Twitch. Where's their corporate greed?

>>67472544
>Twitch
Catalog monkey. Twitch has nothing to do with Paypal. Those are different companies.

>>67468050
>I'm going to humiliate this guy
He already donates to fake anime girls, my man. why are you pretending he has any dignity to lose

>>67467943
Literal Ebeggar acting like people owe her for simply existing, common story amongst narcissist twitch whores desu.

>>67468312
You fucking idiot. There is no explicit contract for performing like a monkey when you receive money, unless the streamer otherwise states that they will do a certain action after receiving a superchat. If there is no clause for expectation of service, it is a donation.

>>67472333
That just makes her more of a bitch.

>>67467943
5 dollars and a chargeback is all it takes to live rent free in a twitch whores head

>>67467943
based

>>67472679
Ebeggars have even less dignity than the simps to be fair.

>>67472802
Very useful information actually

>>67467943
Based and wingsofredemption tier. That dude got trolled with thousands in charge backs. I'm amazed it has never happened in the vtuber sphere.

>>67467943
kinda based
this is no different than twitter artists making tweets shaming people in their DMs, it's petty and sad

>>67467943
Is she done with getting plapped and back to streaming?

Giving the internet to seamonkeys was a mistake

>>67472918
She gets plapped on stream though

>>67472894
I think it's only a matter of time desu.

>>67467943
based bro

>>67472679
Do you really think the vtuber model is voiced by a vocal simulatoror something?

>>67467943
Imagine posting an L of this caliber and thinking it makes the guy look good

>>67471629
She is a Ukranian living in Japan

>>67472027
Someone dumped 300 dollars over two super chats to fuwamoco to traumadump I don’t think any platform is better than the other you tribalist monkey

>>67472740
I hope you don't mean all vtubers. There are a lot who do way more than just exist.
Even Anny does more than that, otherwise she wouldn't be a vtuber.
Granted, not all that much more beyond that.

She should've probably just answered the question. It's not that hard.

>>67474701
>Even Anny does more than that, otherwise she wouldn't be a vtuber.
Other than draw neruo's model I really don't know a single thing of value she has done

>>67474852
made me cum 73 times and counting

>>67472894
>I'm amazed it has never happened in the vtuber sphere.
It has.
https://twitter.com/melythevt/status/1542553753311649799
https://twitter.com/HavanaRama/status/1542927472102195202

>>67475068
First one is absolutely brutal kek.

>>67468217
And who will call her out? Nobody

>>67475068
holy shit I'm kneeling so hard

>>67472089
holy based

>>67475068
Lmao get Krampus69ed!

>>67475068
Holy fucking shit that's brutal.

>>67472346
So the sugar daddy messages I sent are tax deductible?

>>67475068
Imagine ruthlessly pumping and dumping a 2view with thousands of dollars that she then spends on frivolous women shit and then charging it all back holy LOL

>>67472191
stop thinking she is above your average twitchtuber

>>67470431
>It was fun seeing her mald about ironmouse during the canvas event.
QRD?

>>67467943
https://files.catbox.moe/s4t2dn.webm
phase chads explain?

>>67476823
>that image
We want the cuck audience

>>67467943
I used to oil for her but she went into a constant loop of tummy hort and not streaming while being well enough to hang around with male friends at dinner parties. Wouldn't refund though that's kind of a dick move.

>>67477091
>Wouldn't refund
pussy

>>67476823
This is who Shondo hangs our with....

>>67468312
retarded take. and its a twitch whore, so superchatting them to answer you is like doubly retarded

>>67467943
based

>>67476823
That A tier is fucking nightmare fuel, why do people watch this whore?

>>67468728
>>67468779
I remember Etika making videos complaining about this many years ago.

>>67476823
>interracial
>NTR
>at A tier instead of D tier
>Futa at C tier
NEVER COOK AGAIN

>>67468800
This. Live streaming on YouTube was originally designed for live events like rocket launches or presidental races. The chat is only expected to interact with itself. Any attention the streamer gives is a bonus.

>>67475068
Second chuuba seems like a bitch, but the first one seems nice enough. also i'm pretty sure the donator tried that shit with pippa and lost his chargeback case

>>67474638
The simps congregate on twitch because the staff of the site purposely create a bubble where no one can call them out by banning words like simp and also actively encourage ethots to populate the site via special treatment/very selective enforcement of their own rules.
Beyond that the site is just inferior to YouTube in a practical sense in terms of the layout, features available and breadth of content.
I don't see how you could ever consider Twitch to be better than Youtube as a platform, unless you're some pathetic super simp paypiggy of course, then Twitch is literally tailor made for you.

>>67467943
based, fuck that cunt.

>>67467943
sure are a lot of poor losers itt

>>67467943
Holy based

Someone should dono her "Ukraine lost" and refund it. Now THAT would piss her off. Lmao

>>67467943
Based.

>>67482749
go back to /pol/.

>>67482749
gemmy idea
>>67482995
leave, zoomer

>>67471492
>wow what a dumb question, get ignored, thanks for the 5 bucks tho
Yeah she deserved it

>>67467943
Kinda based ngl

>>67471492
Wow that guy was a moron! Haha
Based sexfox.

>>67467943
kek, she's fucking seething over 5 bucks
dangerously based

>>67472679
Here comes the leech that contributes nothing not understanding how making money works. When you become an adult and have to get a job all these things will start to make sense for you.

>>67467943
Man, imagine being so pathetic you think a 4view is gonna reply to your $5 dono kek

>>67484276
Well, she's pathetic enough to seethe about a $5 chargeback

>>67467943
Good on him fuck that whore.

>>67483859
zip up her pants when your done licking up all of the cum flowing from her unwashed vagina.

>>67467943
>>67471492
On one hand the question was cringe and he shouldn’t be asking shit you can just google. On another the charge back made her seethe and go on a mini passive aggressive rant like a bitch kek.

>>67468312
This, I should be able to make one hundred $1 donations and completely hijack an entire stream until everyone gets bored and leaves.
It's my right as a tremendous faggot.

>>67467943
>$5
maybe he needs the money for his sick and dying cat? huh, ever think of that?

>>67467943
>Didn’t even try to hide the guy’s name

>>67467943
Anny's become too spoiled after she made half a million during her scamathon but shes nice to look at

>>67468933
You paid Google. Take it up with them

>>67485240
Yeah... She really didn't think it through

>>67467943
wtf

>>67472314
>>67471631
It's a stupid question to ask with money, just fucking google it. And refunding your dono over that is childish and petty as well. Now, I was going to say it looks bad on both sides and she should at least have censored the name, but if >>67468728 is actually true then I'm fully on her side. If you take money *from* a streamer as punishment for not getting your stupid message read, you're a gigantic douchenugget and deserve to be shamed

>>67467943
If vtubers don't owe viewers anything for donating then viewers don't owe vtubers anything for streaming. Simple as.

>>67467943
Woman.

>>67468312
It's a tip. Imagine being such a jew you withdraw your tip.

>>67467943
Chargeback is cool. Putting twitch women in their place

i coomed to anny asmr again…

>>67490795
To be fair, many vtubers on twitch have a whole paragraph next to their dono links about how you should only ever donate if you feel financially secure and only what is within your means yadda yadda. On the other hand, most of them probably never internalized what it is saying and just copied it from another channel because they feel like this is expected of them. And anny doesn't have it in her bio anyway.

>>67492143
They don't say that because they actually mean it though, they just say it to cover their ass in case some kind of scandal pops up regarding donations and they can use that as a shield.

>>67467943
i remember the time this cunt thought it was a good idea to make a stream about /here/ reading the posts about her. Anons were really funny that day and she ended the stream crying. Anny is an attention whore. Vshojo dodge a bullet with this one.

>>67492802
But they're all attention whores?

>>67474247
Damn, someone should superchat her in rubles asking her how much

>>67492848
oh dude... Let me tell you, one day this woman will fuck up BIG and she will bring that retard turtle and his AI down with her. She is a super menhera.

Both people involved here seem petty and easily offended, I guess this is one of those "chat reflects the streamer" things

>>67467943
Funny how entitled she is after making 5k a day for 4 months, made a bunch of goals and still hasn't fulfilled the most basic ones because tummy hurt. Not to mention even bothering to show up or give any explanation why she doesn't except for the classic tummy hurt.

>>67493166
are you new? She will vanish for months, enjoy the show.

>>67468878
>>67472346
>>67477593
>>67485193
>>67491161
Legally, if a streamer advertises a service, like text to speech, $ goals, "i'll write on my body" etc, it's not considered a donation, it's considered a transaction that is actionable based on whether or not the terms of the transaction were received
A donation is when there is no implicit transaction between paying money and receiving something, there is not a good or service promised with a cash amount

This holds up legally by the way, if you want to cash back a streamer they fight you on it, if they promised something for money and didn't give it, this can go to small claims court.
This is why most streamers do not fight cash back through the bank

>>67482117
>Second chuuba seems like a bitch
In what way exacty?

>>67492802
>i remember the time this cunt thought it was a good idea to make a stream about /here/ reading the posts about her. Anons were really funny that day and she ended the stream crying
show me the full vod. I want a good laugh

This is why I watch camila now

>>67493453
that's the funniest part. People was mocking her because she could not keep a vod. People complained for months she wasn't saving vods.

>>67468050
Every single american woman is like this.

>>67472143
Only women can be karens, karen.

>>67494100
did anyone archive the vod of her crying like a baby to the posts here?
if so, link it. I want a good laugh

>>67472314
kys, guy who made the donation. Do your fucking reps.

>>67491161
icwudt

>>67490695
Nah that shit is based, e-beggars who can't even do basic ass customer service deserve to get shat on

>>67494134
she is Ukrainian.

>>67493327
>A donation is when there is no implicit transaction between paying money and receiving something
So as long as Anny doesn't say something along the lines of "I will answer any message for $5 or more" she's good to go.

>>67494636
""""Ukrainian"""""

>Just google it
It's obvious he sent the superchat just to get a personal interaction with anny. He didn't get it so he got upset. Next time send something more interesting to interact with, OP.
Anny should just ignore this kind of shit instead of taking offence, this field is full of retards that send messages without thinking first.

>>67467943
based, fuck anny and her whorish ways

>>67494870
True. Its like that fag who tried to get Gura to respond with $100 bills. These guys are sensitive pussies who feel they deserve attention. Strong incel energy.

>>67485193
>This, I should be able to make one hundred $1 donations and completely hijack an entire stream until everyone gets bored and leaves.
This actually happened with Roca's PL, only paypigs got noticed even tho there were 40 viewers tops
Now she does a donothon and takes a vacation, really make the noggin jog

Based. If the whore ignores the message, the money is taken back.

Name one female vtuber that ISN’T a whore

>>67467943
kek based

There's nothing more Anny than getting one-guyed at everything single little thing.

>>67498590
the christian vtuber abagail or something i forgot her name

>>67491161
Tipping is for faggots so its based to withdraw it

>>67467943
>anny
kek

>>67467943
I kneel

>>67484045
You really needed that $5 huh?

>>67472266
Nice repeating digits
Twitch does not allow $ donos, only bits (which are terrible value for donor) or subs (which are not very good value for streamer). While not everyone receives same split, until you reach top 0.05% you are not gonna get a living wage paycheck from platforma. For wast majority of streamers 3rd party donations are necesary to stay afloat.

>>67475935
NTA seconding this

>>67467943
>don't cover the dude name
unprofessional bitch

>>67467943
>calling him out on twitter
what a stupid cunt. Keep doing that and one day you'll have an actual schizo ruin your life. What a dumb whore

>>67493327
I was about to post this exact shit but you saved me time

>>67494653
And if he wants his money back that’s also fine

>>67495004
He sent 30 superchats and he didn’t want a response because every knows sending Gura money is a dice roll on whether it’ll get read. But her laughing at the singular super chat making fun of him was hilarious the guy then went on a Twitter rant. Funny time

>>67494870
No lie you guys are pretty gay he didn’t get a response so he got his refund should he have let your queen keep it?

That's a valid reason though. Anyways that's his money, why should he need a reason to refund? Is $5 really a big enough deal to feel salty about, then call them out publicly on twitter as if he's in the wrong? What a terrible human being.

She’s not gonna fuck you if you post here go send her $100 with a funny joke attached

>>67467943
What a bitch.

>thread still alive
>130+ posters
She's that notorious, huh

>>67494636
wtf is this true?
i hope russia destroys her country fr now

>>67490695
Nah, they are offering a service.
Shit isn't charity, he paid 5 bucks to have his question answered.

>>67502052
>ruin your life
She already had this

>>67467943
What a dumb faggot. Probably banned by half the vtubers on twitch by now.

>>67503157
dono ban or chat ban?

>>67467943
The streamer has no obligation to read, answer or even acknowledge the superchat.
But the superchatter holds his right to refund for any reason too.
Good on him for not letting himself being used as a walking wallet.

>>67475068
I remember that shit.
Anyone know what came out of that?

>>67503080
Nowhere does it say 'get your questions answered for 5 bucks'.
Most of them are rightfully ignored by streamers. especially fucking losers like that guy.

does anny still let us live in her head rent free?

>>67503505
yes

>>67503368
Vtubers on twitch share lists of assholes and ban them from all their streams

>>67503505
Judging by your post the rent free status is mutual

>>67503550
so you're telling me that this nigga is on a blacklist for refunding a dono?
GG, he'll have to use a vpn and make another account in order to chat to half the vstreamers.

>>67503426
Shit isn't rocket science, they are entertainers offering a service. He is in his right to refund if he doesn't feel entertained.
If he asked a question, it's not that hard to understand what those 5 bucks were for.

>>67467943
Insanely entitled. If someone is paying you to dance and refunds it when you don't dance, don't act surprised.

>>67503505
Literally who? We are talking about chad refunders here.

>>67503823
the cunt in OP's pic making a callout post about some literal who person refunding a dono because his question wasn't answered

>>67503748
That's not a service that's offered. If he wanted a subscription refunded that'd be a different question but this was a dono. Plain and simple.

>>67503894
>literal who person refunding
He is a chad. The streamer in question is the literal who.

>>67503823
The refunder's a faggot.

>>67503550
maybe it's a good thing... You don't want to be related to anny and friends KEK

>>67491161
Tipping is in exchange for service.

>>67467943
You are a man of self-respect, just like me.

>>67484045
these "if you don't paypig you're not an adult" posts you see frequently on /vt/ are so weird, man

>>67494260
Yeah it sounds hilarious but I don't think anyone saved it if it's true

>>67504413
>You don't want to be related to anny and friends KEK
but I don't want to be banned from shondo's chat

Anny's childhood friend about her, LuL

https://files.catbox.moe/ic2vqr.png

>>67472191
clueless

>>67467943
>didn't even blur the retard's name
the dumb bitch is gonna piss off a persistent schizo eventually and cry about harassment

>>67507033
>russian
opinion disregarded

>>67507033
so she was paying her to be her friend? lmao

>>67507429
Anny is a slav whore as well

>>67507589
Then she can fuck off as well.

>>67507033
>ukranian text
it pretty much tells you that she was depressed from back then and that shitty retarded "friend" didn't even realize that. If you bring negative stuff to a depressed person what do you think is gonna happen?

>>67467943
Sad that there are actually dudes that think they need to pay people to read their comments and respond to them. That's the kind of guy that will happily pay an air tax just to breath. I feel nothing but sympathy for him and those like him.

I love mentally ill women

>>67467943
If she didn't even acknowledge the donation then she has no right to complain.
>Was a harmless question about her stream title
Who the fuck is even supporting this egotistical bitch?

>>67472444
Probably was a newcomer, so naturally you should explain instead of ignoring. By not answering she didn't just lose $5, but however much more he would have donated in the future had she just explained.

>>67476823
What is enf?

>>67467943
Good. Theach her a lesson.

>>67468312
base take
thats why dont watch big streamers, they feel disconnected from the audience
the vtubers i watch make sure to read supas, or at lest acknowledge them if its a shitpost

>>67472444
It's not hard to just answer the normie's question. Anny must have a hard time figuring out when to not larp as a pepe spamming channer on stream if this is such a big deal to her.

>>67467943
Honestly based. But apparently it was an obvious answer so he still retarded.

>>67467943
KING.
I kneel

>>67467943
Jeff Skyward might be a faggot but why the fuck would you fuss about this on social media. It's such a bad look, just let the refund happen and move on.

>>67472191
shondo barely does her best to hide her contempt towards her fanbase, I'm actually shocked people don't see it.

>>67519861
>why the fuck would you fuss about this on social media
Because on twitter the response is overwhelmingly yass kveen slay

>>67505475
whats weird about that? the weird thing is the poorfag losers who dont want to support their hobby or entertainment that they consume. Those people probably pirate games and movies too like the worthless welfare trash they are.

>>67467943
basado

>>67467943
Grifting entitled whore.

>>67470210
lol

>>67502977
based, but her country in now USA. Guess you can't always win.

>>67467943
Based

Anny never had to earn anything. This is what happens when vtubers bypass the struggle part of the growing process. You don't appreciate $5 supas. You take it for granted.

>>67471492
well I was hoping for something more objectionable.

>>67490795
NTA, but have you ever actually thought you owed streamers anything? I hope not.

Isn't that some big streamer in the replies

>>67482749
kek

>>67521995
>50k views
>only 600 likes
KWAB

>>67493043
>that retard turtle and his AI down with her.
nah

>>67493327
>Legally, if a streamer advertises a service, like text to speech, $ goals, "i'll write on my body" etc, it's not considered a donation
No, no, no. You fundamentally misunderstand. Legally you are never "donating" when you donate, you are tipping, it's a gratuity. The followup part after your fundamental misunderstanding about the legal status of tips is just as mistaken. Your legal options for a loose statement are limited. It would need to be in the contract or at least related to documentation and the invoice. Otherwise your best hope is that the transaction service doesn't care and just offers refunds.

>>67514645
Embarrassed Naked Female

>>67493043
there's literally nothing Anny could do to get them in trouble. Vedal is rolling in dough now and there are literally hundreds of animators and riggers that would have him a new model asap for the exposure if he snapped his fingers

>>67521995
yea, its the one that is racist to white people.

>>67522435
Is that not just exhibitionism

>>67494186
>assuming the dono isn't from a woman
seems like woman behavior to me

>>67467943
>I donated money now give me attention! me! me! me!
People really defending this behavior just because they dont like Anny

>>67475068
Is there a time window for chargebacks? I would think if you don’t spend the money right away you should be fine

It depends on the platform you're using for the transaction. If the platform is setup for gratuities then you simply didn't read the fineprint as it were. On the other hand platforms like patreon these days have specific requirements of creators to provide something of material value in exchange for the patronage. That's why almost everyone that uses patreon puts their patrons in the credits and makes patron only posts. Likewise, if you buy something from a webshop you usually have a bunch of things like terms of service that spell out the legal agreement.

If the streamer says something or has some text on an overlay and you pay with a service that has you agree to the terms as a gratuity, then legally if you want to test if they're obligated to do something, then it's a case of try it and find out. In most cases you can get refunds regardless, but that has nothing to do with their legal obligation to be a clown for you, which also means you can get them to be a clown and then still get the refund too. And legally speaking, they can't do much about that and can't force you to uphold your obligation to pay for them to be your clown either.

One of the great mysteries of the last decade was how streamers convinced the youth to pay for free content and interaction they didn't need to pay for. The whole thing is on very shaky ground and hinges on a lot of baseless beliefs and "good will".

bump

>>67468050
> watch twitch thot
> complain about her not being nice to fans

>>67467943
Anny gets 1 guyed and behaves like a entitled cunt who doesn't even show up for work and hates her community. Master manipulator that one

>>67528988
>Buyers can file chargebacks 180 days or more after an order’s been placed.
>Chargebacks are usually resolved in a few weeks, but they can take 75 days or more in some instances.
https://www.paypal.com/dm/webapps/mpp/security/resolve-disputes

>>67523904
BASED

>>67535560
>tranny hands typed this post

>>67471492
>just cunt ways

Man no moderately large vtuber ever keeps up with every superchat or dono and I don't expect it. I don't even remember holoivers doing those superchat-only streams for a long time now

>>67467943
Keep in mind that she is regularly getting double-digit offline hype trains.
She's drowning in donos yet chooses to get one guy'd by a 5$ refund.

>>67468050
She draws herself with a huge cock, I think she couldn't care less about what a rando thinks and just thought it was funny.

>>67467943
BASADO

>>67467943
Based.
Bro donated to have his message read.
Service wasn't fulfilled.
This conceited cunt with a fried brain somehow thinks he isn't in the right.

>>67536815
>holoivers

>>67524488
Exhibitionism implies willing public nudity, ENF implies unwilling public nudity.

>>67519907
That contempt just makes me want to correct her even more!

>>67467943
two western woman having a bitch fight on VT worthy now fucking drama faggots
>>67468779
you can try the places who take donos have been more pro active in fucking people why chargeback maliciously

may Vedal continue to cuck this bitch by streaming with other slightly more entertaining bitches

>>67467943
that's how it's done
based Jeff

>>67533737
Yes? Why is this such a conflicting concept to you? They don’t watch her to insult them but to be nice to them

>>67468769
That’s dumb, 5 dollars is worth a lot more than just a "thanks", you can get that for free lmao.

>>67467943
>Not only did he get his money back, but now he knows for certain it made her cope and seethe
Based KING

>>67542619
True, giga thot BTFO

>>67541419
nothing I would ever do, anon. ive had my small donos missed/ignored. doesnt phase me. i just think of it like "it was an anonymous no-nessage dono, then. im fine with that."

>>67467943
>Not censoring his name
Dick move.

>>67507033
>>67507429
Typical ukrainian

>>67476823
typical twitch whore fetish chart

>>67537164
Penis envy too, huh? Typical.

>>67537164
Anon, why would she call this guy out, with his name not censored, if she was making a joke? Because that's actually worse.

>>67467943
imagine seething over $5 as a big streamer

>>67467943
what a fcking whore (I don't even know who tf this is)

>>67521995
Have 0 clue who she is, all I know is she has a posse of streamers who back her up everywhere

>>67546292
Vedal's dick warmer if he ever travels to Japan.

>>67546812
who?

>>67471492
>the guy didn't got the attention he wanted, so asked for a refund

terminally online male behaviour.

>>67471492
based retard

>>67547000
twitch garbage, if you don't know already you are better off not learning

>>67472089
every time I see a skull emoji it comes from monkeys and monkey lovers.

>>67537164
ohh so you are on of the newfags hm? Hope you like menhera

Funny how the holos ITT are acting all high and mighty, straight after whaling thousands for a streamer who ghosts them months at a time.

>>67468779
the streamer can just contact their bank and the dude sending the fraudulent chargebacks is fucked

>>67467943
Based

>>67467943
>bro
>skull emoji

Total normalfag death.

>>67555415
zoomer internet slang ruined an entire generation of people i know

>>67467943
>Calls him out acting like this is uncommon
I bet every big streamer gets shit like this regularly so she is just outing herself as unpopular.

>>67467943
His only mistake was giving 5 bucks to a whore like Anny to begin with, kinda funny that she's acting so smug about it when it just makes her look like a cunt.

>>67467943
>no answer no money
based scholar, seeker of knowledge!

>>67472040
No woman names herself "JeffSkyward"

>>67476823
yeah, she's definitely polish