/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6776391
Are they 15 years old?

Are people still thinking corporation is a "family"

fuck off Lyger you lying cunt

Big happy family...

>>6776391
Where the fuck does it says that she's taking a break

Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the disaster gens, my lord.

>>6776391
Cover likely told her to take a break.

>>6776466
https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1416752119651069958

https://twitter.com/7216_2nd/status/1417157974636654592

Only sheltered underagechamas think family and nasty fights for petty reasons don't go hand in hand.

I want them to be less like a family and stop being schizos on twitter.

>>6776479
It has nothing to do with Cover, Haato just ghosted her.

>>6776489
That's barely a break. She'll still appears in an Apex stream tomorrow anyway.

>>6776423
It's a niji meme. They're a tight a family of rapist and stalker ignorers.

>>6776420
Mentally, younger.

>>6776391
So why did haachama show up for rushia but not matsuri?

>>6776423
Only hololive fans

>>6776572
Because she's dead and Rushia is a necromancer, but not Matsuri. Do your lore reps

>>6776423
It was till Coco retired.

>>6776572
Rushia's was recorded before her break, Matsuri's wasn't. It's still ok for Matsuri to think Haachama should've made an exception for her and participated even on break, since she already promised, but she's being dishonest with the whole "when I saw her in Rushia's live I couldn't take it" act.

The chat is already a mess because of her, Matsuri is a fucking idiot.

>>6776391
Every family has it's fights.
Pathetic schizos taking this out of proportion and even screaming graduation from Matsuri.

>>6776391
It's Haachama's fault that Coco retired and it's her fault again if Matsuri retires too

Matsuri isn't taking a break. Haachama is being forced to explain her actions when she returns. Matsuri is saying that her manager advised that course of action, shifting the blame.

>>6776572
because Rushia recorded while haato could still record,
Matsuri didnt get around to recording until sometime after July 2nd the cutoff point for Haato's ability to record

>>6776671
I could see Festival going full menhera and retiring because of something petty like that.

>>6776696
>the cutoff point for Haato's ability to record
What happened to her?

>>6776676
She's taking a break, it's just not shown in the tweet. See:
>>6776489

>>6776676
She is >>6776489

>>6776423
Well Nijiniggers still feels like a family, Hololive on the other hand feels like coworker

>>6776391
Majestic play, now the only solution is to engage in sweaty hate lesbian sex

>>6776391
Poor matsuri

>>6776391
>>6776702
https://twitter.com/7216_2nd/status/1417157974636654592?s=19
Matsuri already finished this non issue

drama in my hololive family? Impossible

>>6776696
Matsuri already got the confirmation for recording on May 4th. Haato didn't inform anything after that until she said that she can't do it in July 2nd.

>>6776420
Most women are forever children...

So Matsuri takes a break while Haachama and mane-chan take the blame. Bravo menhera. This won't give you any more antis at all.

>>6776853
It's not Matsuri's fault though, Haato is the one that said that was going to do something then backed off.

>>6776823
I fight with my siblings often over the pettiest things.

>>6776391
>Takes a break
You call that a break ? I call that a regular schedule for Gura.
>Because of Haato
You absolute retard, if Matsuri didn't rant on twitter like a 15 years old she would have to take a "break". It's her own fault.

>>6776834
Matsuri had may and june to organize a recording session and didnt
or are you retarded and you think haato should have paid for studio time to record for matsuri's event for her?

>>6776782
Nijinigger literally have dozens of members that don't even know each other's existence, less alone send a simple tweet.

>>6776882
I always got along great with my siblings, I guess it depends on families

>>6776883
*wouldn't, I'm a fucking retard

>>6776875
It's certainly Matsuri's fault for publicizing it before talking things out with Haachama. Haachama could absolutely have a rational explanation for this, but she decided to tweet before thinking.

I will never be in a toxic relationship with a cute japanese menhera

>>6776883
They all know how fragile is Matsuri, if Haachama couldn't deliever then she shouldn't have given an ok. At best, it's the manager's fault.

>>6776471
Don't bring Fubuki, Aki, Mel, Aqua, Subaru and Choco into this shit

i blame kiara for this

Ah, Haachama, the slayer of holos, the final yab, the harbinger of the end. I love her. Hopefully she will destroy hololive and cover.

>>6776907
No, but Haato should coordinate with Matsuri for schedule.

>>6776924
Matsuri is too honest and loses her cool too quickly, everyone knows that.

>>6776592
No it wasn't. Don't you realize how sad it is to memed into thinking a business is a family by a soulless corporation?

ayame can't stop winning

>>6776883
you're replying to a bait thread, she tweeted her break well before her twitter meltdown.

>>6776942
what did shion and ayame do?

>>6777002
Nothing? No one is talking about them.

>>6776991
I won't watch your vshojo whores, fuck off.

You all need to remember that to matsuri, hololive is just her means of living, just a job, she likes nijisanji and doesn't care about hololive.
What's happening is essentially what you would do if your co-worker cancelled a project you have scheduled for months, with no explanation, but still manteined other projects with other coworkers. She took the talk to boss route, and let her manager know, then here we are now.

>>6776391
I don't know what everyone is talking about , this is the most family shit i have ever seen. It's too real.

>>6776843
Funny you say that when most men in their 30's watch Avengers.

Honestly, she's got all the right to be upset
She got a confirmation that Haato'd do a recording all the way back in May
And then ghosted her since the 2nd of June and all of a sudden she appears in Rushia's stream
Like yeah, any person would be kinda ticked off about that, it's reasonable
But the problem was that she went public with it

Let's be real, I dont care what sort of uni schedule she has, i can guarantee Haachama had a 5 minute window to do a quick recording in the 2 months since she gave the OK

Even fucking Niji's Sukoya, who's taking a 9month hiatus to study for a medical license exam, still manages to find time to do collabs and guest appearances.

Why can't Haato just say sorry?

>>6777099
She put faith in her friend and said friend just backstabbed her, though maybe unintentionally.

>>6777031
I think that anon was expecting that answer, anonchama.

#とまらないヘラライブ

>>6776489
>4 days
that's not a break, and she'll be prepping for a concert anyway

>>6777169
because of the estrogen and female hormones in the water

>>6776391
>3 days
It's fucking nothing.

>>6776420
No older than 21.

>>6776391
You forgot the part that Rushia's birthday stream was prerecorded over a month ago.

>>6777170
I can understand her being pissed but she could've just ranted vaguely on her own twitter and not said anything on the Matsuri account, if she really wanted to vent. Wouldn't have been the first time she did that either.

>>6776391
I'm not sad, she's a menhara schizo attention whore.

>>6777474
all of them are

>>6776420
Haato isn't even in college.
She's so fucking young that she wouldn't even be allowed to apply in today's Hololive auditions.

>>6777502
One of the reasons why Haato is taking her break (beyond the obvious problems with Cover's handling of her content) is to rest up and be mentally well enough to apply for college.

>>6776782
>N word
>Hololive
Yeah totally not bait

>>6776391
literally nothing. idk why would you bother to pick out that dumb dramaqueen with only 16 likes who nobody is giving a fuck about. that tard is just blowing it out of proportion. get a life, you fucking dumb eop monkey.

also this isnt the first time haato joined someones live while taking a break.

>>6777424
>ranted vaguely on her own twitter
No, that would be worse

>>6777424
Honestly, she shouldve just taken a page from Haato's playbook and just been a bitch towards her and giving her the cold shoulder
Like what happened to Watame (which ironically enough was also because of a cancelled recording)

>>6776420
Matsuri is 22, but menhera.
Haachama is 19.

Reminder that Matsuri is a fucking menhera that weighed 200 pounds in school and has burned every significant relationship she's ever had with the exception of Hoshikawa Sara because Sara knows how to hold her at a distance.

>>6777668
23 now, isn't she? Way too old to be acting like this.

>>6776782
Nijis don't even know the names of some of their own JP coworkers, much less the IDs and KRs.

>>6776981
Still not an excuse. She went to tweet first and making it public was out of line.

>>6776782
This is the part that I don't understand. Something like this would never happen in Nijisanji because they would just call each other whenever. Meanwhile, Cover's managers won't can't even get Haachama to record a birthday greeting in advance? Is Haato's manager the CN plant trying to destroy Cover by making their talents look bad or is Haato locked up in a Haaton's basement somewhere?

>>6777735
Manager gave her an OK to go public with it. If only he/she just said no, she would go crazy on her roommate account.

>>6776420
worse they are female

>>6776782
One of them made a fake graduation stream the same day Lulu was graduating, niji's give zero fucks about anyone outside of their cliques.

You're not the asshole... wait thought we are on reddit for a sec

>>6777792
Matsuri's birthday stream is a concert, not a totsumachi, I really doubt she was trying to get Haato to say "happy birthday", she wanted a song.

Which is perfeclty fair, I'm not saying she's asking too much, but obviously there would be no issue if she just wanted a happy birthday message.

>>6776822
thank fuck

What's wrong with her?

>>6776391
Based, did she got depressed after their fans were calling out her bullshit?

>>6776420
they're women

>>6777792
Matsuri wanted a song recorded
Songs have to be recorded in the studio
Time in the studio has to be booked and paid for
The talents have to pay for the booking themselves
If matsuri wanted a recording for her event she needed to book a recording slot for Haato
she never did this

>>6776391
wow a 3 days break, imagine the horror

>>6776420
Fpbp

>>6776391
this is what no Hoshikawa does to a girl

>>6776782
kuzuha channel can name like 10 other nijisanji members

>>6778130
You think Matsuri don't understand all of that and didn't actually try to do that?

>>6776910
Can you name your 2nd and 3rd cousins?

>>6778309
Yes, she left everything until the last minute like she always does
tbf haato is 100% the same

>>6778197
Based ayame poster

>>6776391
>over a day old news, we knew it since when the the school drama itself happened. Next the OP is gonna try to create a new thread tomorrow acting like matsuri's return for her birthday is also fresh news.
I wonder why anon is still trying to drag this on

I hope everyone gets bullied out until hololive is just Ame, Gura, and Haachama.

>>6776471

Yes

>>6778341
She has prepared her birthday since 4 months ago. Surely something is up on Haato's side. Most likely lack of communication, even before the hiatus starts.

>>6777169
Roastie detected.

I just want to hug chammers so much

poor kid can't catch a brake .
I know some of you say its her fault also
but who is perfect ?

>>6777424
She should have not acted like a retarded zoomer and post her beef on fucking social media for thousands to see.

>>6777663
What happened to Watame?

>be EOP
>don't watch Matsuri
>give zero fucks
Nobody outside this little echo chamber cares.

>>6776953
Subaru isn’t a disaster herself, but you can’t say she has no connection to disasters.

>>6779052
Good thing they posted it here in the echo chamber, where people care, right?

>>6776953
>Aki, Mel, and Aqua

>>6778341
Matsuri actually plans things ahead haatard. Don't lump her in with your lazy, compulsive-lying piece of shit haato.

No one with a brain thinks Hololive is a family.
Hololive are professional streamers. The base salary is basically nothing which means its up to the talents themselves if they want to succeed.
Resources are limited which means the streamers will have to fight among themselves for things like viewers, sponsorships, management favors, primetime hours etc.
Niji is the exact same except they don't force their talents to pretend to be a family. There are also more hobbyist/part time vtubers who are less competitive by nature.

>>6779052
>>be EOP
dropped

>>6776471
It all changed when Gen 3 started to show the power of being an idol group rather than individuals. ID1 onwards even made sure debuts were all in the same week rather than spanning over months to further show this unity. Wouldn’t be a shock if part of auditioning now is swapping girls in and out of teams to check for compatibility.
The older gens have had to play catch up as a result. This is easy for the charismatic pioneers like the Gen 0s, and the more extroverted types like Subaru and Choco. It’s far harder for the introverts.

>>6779876
this
Gens after 3, get months predebut to know each other and grow chemistry and strenght as a single gen.

I think Matuli and Chammers should have sex before things get worse

>>6776423
it literally is just haachama being too young

>>6776391
Who was in the wrong here?

>>6776966
Nope, that's on Matsuri. She's the boss. She can't be expected to do her work for her.
You are going on at Haato for something that was probably out of her control and came about suddenly. That'd be like shitting on someone for not pre-empting a death in their family that suddenly happened. Literal time wizardry.
Given some of the wording when Matsuri was freaking out, we're likely going to find out how serious it was when Haato comes back.
I can only hope it isn't graduation or death related, and is just education, stress or minor health issues.

>>6779700
This is especially true if you look past Hololive in to the few that are very open in their personal lives, and those that aren't. Half of them don't even follow each other. Matsuri follows none of them if I remember right. (besides Hoshikawa. kek)

Honestly this was most likely Matsuri trying to give haachama the final blow and chase her out of hololive
>girl is clearly stressed about streaming and needs time off
>matsuri immediately starts starting shit with her when she can't respond
>she's going to come back to Matsuri's mob of antis raiding her and spamming her with garbage
haachama is definitely quitting after this.

>>6777502
Shes 19 dude, Shion is the one you gotta look out for, pretty sure she just turned 17 or 18 the other week

>>6776391
ahhhhh, classic,
>some fuckery happened
Cover
>QUICKLY BRAKE, SHE NEEDS A BREAK!

>>6776910
They have like 150 members retard, of course they can't name each and single every one of them.

why does 'Matsuri' just have a public twitter where she states who she is?
Is this common amongst Holo?

>>6776843
>watching childish women play childrens games
mommy issues

>>6776423
This is the exact type of pointless drama you get from an extended family though
>ree why did you go to cousins wedding but couldn't go to nieces christening the next week etc.

>>6784994
managing a popular account is hard

>>6784476
Anon, the reason why none of them follow each other's roommates is because many of their roommate identities are public information at this point. Everyone knows Kson and Matsuri's roommates so if they follow the roommate accounts of other members, it's essentially doxing them. That's exactly how Nene doxxed her entire gen on day 1, when her roommate followed all her genmates. If Kson follows Kanata's personal twitter, people will know what it is.

>>6776423
What family are you from where there's 0 conflicts? Like most "families", they'll make up and move on.

>>6776489
>4 days off
>a break
I can't help but think this is a subtle jab at Haatons

Much like the bait thread with the photoshopped Nazi Gartic Phone screencap, this thread is a great example of faggots not actually watching or reading content and relying on retarded EOPs.

>>6785592
calling them roommates is so gay

>>6786153
dilate

>>6779442
>plans things ahead
>cant fit a recording session in a 2 month window
this would make her even more retarded

>>6776782
You don't watch Nijisanji
"Nijisanji is warm" might be a meme for when people have sweet interactions, but no one is delusional enough to think 100+ people (BEFORE you add in the international branches) are one big happy family.

>>6786363
how new?

Hololive is a family. Families fight and make-up. It's not a fucking utopia. If you haven't seen how much these girls do so much for each other then you are probably a newbie.

>>6787070
Hololive is a family and Matsuri is the drunk ugly aunt on her 4th divorce attacking everyone while crying that nobody likes her

Idolbu 2.0….

>>6776391
Yeah we get it, Haachama is based

>Hololive is a family and Matsuri is the drunk ugly aunt on her 4th divorce attacking everyone while crying that nobody likes her

>>6777502
Haato is 2001 born(19-20), I remember seeing it one of those online english quiz streams

>Haato is 2001 born(19-20), I remember seeing it one of those online english quiz streams

>>6787529
>>6787381
Nigger is fucking back, rope yourself

>>6787381
>>6787529
for the love of god find a new gimmick, I beg of you

>Nigger is fucking back, rope yourself

>>6785592
But many of them follow each other perfectly fine with no issue. That includes in Hololive.
Most of them are in their own little groups, which you can also generally see in Hololive streams if you don't have autism and can clearly see who is acting and who actually gets on prope, like Roboco, Aki and Luna.
Hell, you mention Kson, she literally just followed many of them and vice versa. (including Delta at that, which surprised even me, that kinda came out of nowhere)
Matsuri is really the odd one out in all of this. It's no surprise, she has mentioned in the past about her relations with people and her reasons for joining Hololive vs Nijisanji, etc.

>But many of them follow each other perfectly fine with no issue. That includes in Hololive.
>Most of them are in their own little groups, which you can also generally see in Hololive streams if you don't have autism and can clearly see who is acting and who actually gets on prope, like Roboco, Aki and Luna.
>Hell, you mention Kson, she literally just followed many of them and vice versa. (including Delta at that, which surprised even me, that kinda came out of nowhere)
>Matsuri is really the odd one out in all of this. It's no surprise, she has mentioned in the past about her relations with people and her reasons for joining Hololive vs Nijisanji, etc.

>>6787143
I would accept that. She's the "touchy" uncle that everyone warns not to be in close proximity. Subaru always tells us how much Aqua is in absolute desperation mode when Matsuri starts cuddling her or how Lamy and Nene was warned by her senpais that Matsuri will absolutely grope them. Anyways, they do fight amongst themselves. But we also know that many of them have grown to see eachh other more as a family. Kanata don't have friends except for people in Hololive.

>>6776910
Mori didn’t know what a “Rushia” was until Coco told her.

>>6787956
This is Mori. She can probably only name a quarter of the people in Hololive. She probably didn't know Mel was in Hololive if nobody pointed it out.

>>6779035
Unfortunately, what the anon is implying is a rrat. The real reason is actually a lot dumber. Haaachama was hoping to finish a song as a gift for Watame's birthday. Unfortunately, she couldn't finish it so Haachama being the autist that she is, was too embarassed to talk to Watame and ghosted her for months. Watame ended up getting the wrong idea and thought that Haachama hated her. Fast forward a couple of months and they basically apologized and cried like babies. I honestly didn't think that kind of anime-like misunderstanding could ever happen. Then again if pic related exists then I shouldn't have been surprised in the first place.

>>6787866
> Kanata don't have friends except for people in Hololive.
she's friends with kson

hoshikawa meeting up with haachama and saying she's her soulmate mindbroke matsuri

>>6788112
Haachama is autistic. She's famous for always promising to do shit with people but never really moving forward with anything. It's a running joke now within Hololive because people take it in stride. It's the same way how Shion is tagged as a kusogaki when she messages people like Marine and if when Marine responds she gets seenzoned. Nobody forces Ayame to interact with them because the girl is a socially inept. She got by with OKFAMS. Gen5 is the only gen where all girls are amazing not socially stunted.

>>6776720
Haachama got her for good

>>6788232
If this really happened this could be true

>>6788517
https://youtu.be/H8YTInUipZI

>>6788675
Well that would explain a few things

>>6788324
Polka and Nene are fucking strong then, as they managed to get the Dokilabi song with haachama out of all people

>>6788855
They know how to put pressure into people. I mean Nene even sent Korone an ntr snap of her and Okayu. Matsuri was lax about the whole situation and gave Haachama too much leeway. She knew Haachama was a slacker. She should have asked for updates or something

>>6788855
Nene is the strongest idle

Then you realize that Haato isn't the only person who ever ghosted her.

>>6788112
Thank you Anon..

>>6788113
???
Are you confusing her for Towa? They were added years back, but I don't remember her ever having notKanata added.

>>6787866
>Kanata don't have friends except for people in Hololive
Dude, she had tons of utattemita with Kobato and she's not in Hololive (yet)

>>6788675
Hawaii orgy is still on the menu it seems

She is back on the 22nd. Calliope Mori takes shits longer than this "break"

>>6776391
AHHH I LOVE HER SHE IS SUCH A DUMB INSECURE BITCH

>>6789406
How long is her shit?

>>6776953
>Mel
nigga, do your fucking reps.

>>6789406
yeah but if she announces it's a break and has a comeback stream she'll make more in superchats

>>6789036
polka went to australia and sat on haato's face until she agreed to sing the lyrics

>>6789285
Had. She already admitted that she can only really keep up with Hologirls. But I understand that it maybe just for Kanata since a lot doesn't have this issue. Anyways, most of them have really strong bonds. This bonds though doesn't mean the entirety of all Hololive members. The closer you are with someone, the higher is the chance of clashing especially if your personalities aren't a match

>>6776471
>Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the disaster gens, my lord.

agreed. Haachama is the only good one out of those gens. Subaru is only known because she collabs with Gamers alot.

>>6776953
fubuki has shown that she is a one trick pony. Haachama mogs her in talent

>>6777560
found a libtard that cares about niggers

>>6779876
your giving Hololive management too much credit. Nene applied and was turned down a few times. I would take Nene over most of Gen 1 and 2. Over a bunch of the useless slugs of Gen 4 like Towa and Kanata. If they were good with talent Nene would have been in a previous Gen.

I'm glad haato bitch is graduating. Fuck that snake. How you just gonna leave your coworker out on a limb when you already accepted the obligation?

Fuck the aspies and downies itt trying to psycho analyze haato and give baseless assumptions on what "actually" happened. You're no more than a sad cunt.

Fuck haato fuck white knights. Leave.

>>6791283
Nene would hate you and you don't even watch nene, stop getting all your information from badly translated clips

>>6788324
>Haachama is autistic. She's famous for always promising to do shit with people but never really moving forward with anything.
sounds like an adhd thing more than anything

>>6791370
Hey anon, you forgot your pills

>>6791410
gee fren. You sound a little triggered. How about a smug anime pic to cheer you up?

>>6791424
>sounds like an adhd thing more than anything
Seems to be ADHD, makes me remember to Da Vinci, he was well known for not finishing anything he started, this made him not a very reliable person

>>6776391
Matsuri needs to take her fucking meds and stop being such a retarded bitch holy fuck dude.....

>>6776953
>Aqua
Anon chama...

>>6791433
You mad that autistic bitch is graduating

>>6791635
Not mad, I'm making sure you take your anger pills.
>baseless assumptions on what "actually" happened.
You are doing the same, you will never know what actually happened until one of them explains themselves on stream.
So take your pills and relax my dear antichama

>>6784551
UUUUUUOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH

>>6776391
>matsuri is just playing a menhera charact-
>haato is just playing a schizo charact-

>>6777169
you can leave now, meatflap

>>6776423
>People
Who people?
I think they are holocircle
T.holofag

Haachama is a China spy, she's their tool to destroy Hololive from within!

> sudden 4 day no stream announcement is not a break
what the fuck?

If you hate dramafag just watch Roboco.
She's the perfect vtuber.

Pretty normal for women to not be forward to each other and cause more problems.
Haato should get a fucking calendar and be a ghosting retard.
Matsuri shouldn't have made it public.

>>6776953
>Aqua
>Mel
>no drama
Anon...

>>6793059
When Midnight Uno collab :(

>>6793008
haatons are doing damage control.

>>6776391
>Haato almost killed someone

Christ she's tying to beat Nene's body count.

>>6789036
>Nene even sent Korone an ntr snap of her and Okayu
Based Super Nenechi

i bet nijiniggers are behind this

>>6793288
I didn't even know haatons still existed

>>6791370
oh noes. Not work obligations. Good heavens. What will happen if people don't work hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-J0mGVamNc

>>6792424
>Mori is just playing a boring bitch character

>>6786390
Retarded EOP getting triggered after being called out. Typical EOP scum.

>>6776391
Why she has like 7 different twitter accounts?

>>6798559
Her menhera attacks can't be contained in a single account

Did Haato being much closer to Hoshikawa than Matsuri will ever be help in the development of this shitshow?

>>6798962
Learn English

>>6776391
This feud has been going for a while.
Matsuri said she has tried contacting Haato several times and no response. That same day Miko said on stream that she spoke with Haato....

Just a reminder that when all the other Holos oversleep for a stream, they get memed on and it's funny, but Matsuri has such a bad reputation that when she did people actually called the police to check on her.

>>6800056
That's never happened

Gee I wonder why someone wouldn't want to "attend" the virtual birthday of a person that acts like that...
Haachama should have told her to take her meds.

This shit is why Gura avoids Twitter. Or human contact for that matter

>>6799438
The funny thing about Matsuri is that she has all the time to play Apex everyday. Shit, those tweets of her was posted after she finish playing in an Apex tournament. If she really cares about her live that much, she should had spend more time organizing it instead of grinding ranks and being menhera on twitter.

>>6802845
She has been busy organizing her birthday in the last 4 months anon

>>6803091
And she thought she was done organizing.
She didn't expect a friend to flake on her last second.

>>6803224
Well no wonder she went mental.

>>6803224
She didn't expect the person who warned her that time was tight in May and then stopped all company-related activities in early June to not be available halfway through July, even after getting another confirmation that it wouldn't be possible 20 days before the live? That doesn't add up. She's jealous of Rushia, nothing more. She was ok with no Haato for 16 days since their last talk, but then saw Rushia's anniversary and went full menhera.

>>6803224
Her friend dipped along time ago retard and she already knew, and she was mad but at least she understood the reasons, she went menhera because she saw haato on rushia's prerecorded birthday and thought that she was less important to her

>>6777211
technically 3 nippon time zone

>>6803224
>>6803345
Birthdays (and other such lives) are usually recorded a month or so in advance.
Which is why Haato said she was gonna be in Cocos graduation because it was taped way before the actual date of the graduation proper.
So if we line up the timelines it works out to Haato being asked by Rushia to be in her thing, she is, at the same time asked by Matsuri to be in hers, only for a month later for her to go on a mental health break and Matsuri being pissy that the thing recorded a month in advance had Haato in it.
Literally no way you slice it is Haato wrong here, she was asked to do something that she basically hinted that she may not be able to do it.
Remember lives are not something they just do in their rooms they have to travel to the HQ and basically make sure to rehearse certain things like songs and skits.
Haato was probably already burnt out by not only Rushias birthday live but Cocos as well. You can argue she didnt do shit for Coco but it does add up.

>>6804367
Matsuri was willing to give compromise to Haato. She agreed to what was being planned in early May but then one way or another, somehow her plan with Matsuri fell through while her plan with Rushia is still going on. This is unfair in Matsuri's eyes since she asked for it first and she dedicated her birthday as a celebration for the first generation which Haato effectively decided not to participate. She's okay with her not participating, what she's not okay with is how she makes it looks like Rushia is far more important than her show.

>>6803224
>She didn't expect a friend to flake on her last second
Matsuri's retarded. Haachama does this all the time.

>>6777699
Take a step outside anonchama, you will see women in their 60s still this way.

>>6801767
>chumbuds still find a way to make excuses for their oshi'ss total lack social media engagement, which is part of their job

I like enjou because the all the apologizing is good practice for reading extra formal JP

>>6778251
We're at the point where Kuzuha feels comfortable ringing up any given 7 people at midnight, given they're from nijisanji, for an impromptu among us collab.

Nijisanji as a whole isn't a family, but there's a lot more implicit trust when a niji member interacts with another niji member.

>>6776391
Haato should just graduate if her heart's not in it anymore.

She can only collect a paycheck for so long before public opinion changes and labels her an ayame level leech on the brand.

>>6790478
>Haachama is the only good one out of those gens.
>>6790597
>Haachama mogs her in talent

Her conten is literally being a lolcow and only reason she's getting any attention at all is EOPs. She also the reason why Coco was pushed to graduate aswell. Bitch has been overall negative for Hololive and should just quit.

I hope she takes a bunch of laxatives and sends her me-fuckin-shittin-ya-cunt.mp4

>>6808199
It's possible she was thinking about it, but others managed to convince her to stay at least through May. Now with Coco gone along with the reason for her departure, she just might. Cover just won't let her leave yet so they don't lose face by having two popular talents jump ship in quick succession.

>>6808567
>She also the reason why Coco was pushed to graduate aswell.
ogey rrat

>>6776953
All fake money addicted whores with fake friend relationships in holo

>>6809944
> Fubuki
> throw half of her income to hell
> burn her channel in Bilibili side
> She did it for her's friend Coco.

Fubuki is the most badass in Vtuber industry anon. You may never have friend like this in your life.

>>6810583
>ignores her for months afterwards
She's so badass

>>6787403
>2001 is no longer a couple of years ago

what the fuck. why did you remind me of the merciless passage of time.

>>6812442
It was only HoloEn who ignored hell, but of the Jps, FBK was one who paid attention to Coco the most. Being the only one to phone in to her stupid yagoo meme review and shit.

>>6808172
I think it has to do with the fact that Hololive talents are almost all seasoned, especially among the JPs so they are more standoffish about getting too close to someone that may move on in the next month or so. Also, it's a woman vs man thing.

>>6812442
No, Fubuki and Marine collabed with Coco literally within the week of her return.

>>6793440
Matsuri is literally an honorary nijisanji member you retard. While Haachama barely interacts with Hoshikawa, Matsuri will literally go as far participating in their niji-only apex tournaments.

This is why I prefer some Nijis nowadays. No bullshit nor fake idol shit, just straight up bullying and honesty.

>>6813293
This + she doesn't care about hololive, it's just her job

>>6776391
I hope she just graduates and streams on her other account more.

>>6813344
Bad Bait

>>6805227
Are you perhaps denying that twitter is cringe?

>>6815333
Just accept that gura hates her job and hates her fans

>>6815333
Yes. Along with Reddit and Coco.

>>6801767
Gura is kind of a brat and a secluded NEET but I think even she shows more maturity than what's on display from festival here.

She avoids twitter because she simply couldn't resist shitposting if she were active there, and she has to pretend to be professional on SNS and not trigger any pronoun-users as the world's most successful corporate chuuba

>>6779330
It's not Aki's fault if she gets hit by a truck

Real rrat, Haachama is dead, and Cover is just covering it up intil everyone forgets about Haachama existence

>>6818314
>Real rrat, Haachama is dead
I feel the same

>>6777169
holy based

>>6818314
What are you talking about? She just took a break...

>>6777663
What happened with Watame?

>>6776910
The fact that they only know 5-10 other Nijis makes them all that much closer to said Nijis. Meanwhile, when you have to spread the love among 45 people like in Hololive, it ends up feeling shallow.

>>6787956
Wait really?

>>6784551
Also Ollie. She just turned 18.

>>6776960
holy based

HOOOOARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH I LOVE DRAMA OMG IM GONNA DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

You festival faggots really want a war with the most schizo fanbase in all of vtubbing? You piss drinking retards are poking a dormant wasp nest. You know what's worse than not getting some 4 minute birthday cameo? Not having a birthday stream at all and in haatos case that's going to be true. Haatons have been quiet, coping with our oshis latest menhera episode so dont give us a reason to ruin your pathetic threads on this board while we wait.

>>6827665
There is no war to be fought anyway. Any Haatons with a brain have acknowledged their oshi's incompetence and Matsuri has admitted that her action wasn't the wisest. Anyone who tries to start shit are just dramafaggots.

>>6828384
Sorry anon you're right. I'll pop a few more pulls now.

>>6828384
I am Haaton and I wish Matsuri won't have a grudge against our retarded daughter.

>>6779330
getting hit by a car is not drama

I honestly think that Haachama just kept ghosting or downright ignored any form of contact from Matsuri to the point that she feels like she had to make a big deal out of all these in public just to force Haachama to respond

>>6776964
Finally I can be free!

>>6829439
Yep, so the only option on the table after being ghosted was to air it out publicly and then backtrack once she realized she was a retarded menhera.
Sounds accurate.

Post more menhera kino

I don't get Matuli, why did it HAD to be Hachaama? Couldn't she move on a pick another girl for her stream?

>>6792968
ESL hands typed this.

>>6791370
>I'm glad haato bitch is graduating
Settle down, Zhang. Do your English reps to blend in better.

>>6840894
>why did it HAD to be Hachaama
She consider Haato to be one of her close friends, even if Haato didn't see her as such.

>>6840894

>>6812734
don't sweat it anon. y2k ended us all and we're just living in a simulation anyways

Zhangs going wild trying to whip things up into drama any way they can.

>>6842213
funbags?

>>6840894
Her birthday has the whole first generation except Haato joining. It's not rocket science.

lol
I love seeing women like Matsuri be emotionally crushed for trying to make memories with girls who she thought were her friends.
I can't wait for Haachama to return, be asked about Matsuri's birthday, and say "huh? what you mean?"

>>6842213
In Canada, they have homomilk

>>6787956
but mori is in just for the money and get people to listen to her shit rap, if anything

>>6842213
The only reason they can get away with it is because /vt/ don't follow or watch chuubas outside of drama so they don't actually know about Matsuri's constant venting about her emotional state.

>>6848633
IT'S HOMOGENIZED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL6PS3QHHsE

suspensionfags BTFO

>there’s still no respond from Haato
I was hoping she would make a tweet or something. I hope she come to Matsuri’s birthday stream. She put a lot of efforts into it and I can’t imagine Haato wouldn’t at least show her face after all that happened. This will put a dent on their friendship if she didn’t show up.

>>6848614
I mean, that's been Haachama's shtick for quite some time since returning from Australia. Pretending she has amnesia and didn't know any ENs when their names were mentioned.

>>6848614
why are you so mean anonymous

>>6776423

>>6789050
She lacks a strong presence is easily ghosted.

>>6853166
Man, can you imagine if Matsuri's concert will have the 4 of them showing off how close and emotional they are as a gen(even if lets say behind the scenes its not true), and then after stream is over the thumbnail gets updated to having Haachama's cropped out or even be scribbled out?

Matsuri taken quite a lot of heat but if things proceed normal for her, like the other members still talk and collab with her, she still gets put into sponsorship and promotional material, whilst Haachama still remains MIA, then Haachama is gonna come out the worst on this whole ordeal.

>>6776391
Why didn't she just personally contact Haachama instead of subtweeting about her

Just taking a break until July 22
It's really nothing compared with Haatons eternal suffering

>>6853529
supposedly the only way to contact her was official channels, that's twitter and discords

that implies unlike say the many pairings she has no way to contact her outside of them, so while hachama is mia she is unreachable

>>6853477
You know, Matsuri might be crazy enough to do that. She never listens to her fans and always does what she wants. She still consider Haato as her friend though so I don’t know.

>>6853806
To be fair, Kanata and Coco haven’t exchanged telephone numbers until Coco was about to graduate.

>>6853529
Read the thread, Haato ghosted her, meanwhile Miko and Hoshikawa were talking with her just fine.

>>6853529
Haachama finally replied to Matsuri through her manager.
Problem was resolved.
Sometimes you had to make a fuss and create a drama to get someone who ghosted you to reply.
Haachama and Matsuri are both fucking retarded but Haachama was in the wrong here in this case.

>>6776471
Basically these were before they really had their modern form up and going which was about Gen 3 onward, so you have a mix of some good ones and some menhera. As to why founders/gen0 don't really have problems like this, I dunno, luck of the draw or maybe because they weren't in a rush they took their time picking out solid candidates.

Also significant chunks of Gen 1/2 were fucked over by the ASMR changes and Youtube starting to go puritan, and Cover reacting to those changes steered future gens more in the direction we have now.

they're both menhara

>>6855498
>they're both whores
ftfy

>>6777502
>She's so fucking young that she wouldn't even be allowed to apply in today's Hololive auditions.
She graduated high school dumbfuck

>>6855323
Similar thing happened with Shinwa for all the old ladies in the know

>>6841335
Matsuri always comes off stronger than the other person in the emotional attachment department. She said it's hard for her to do anything in moderation so when she likes someone, she's obsessive about them. Some of it is exaggerated fanservice for streams but she's not being dishonest about it.

>>6818314
She ain’t that dead