/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ok fire him then

>>68374157
I can fix him

He got pressured to make it a menshi cause JP nijisisters were shitting on him for saying too much

>>68374157
>Selen gets more sympathy from Hololive and Holostars than from her own genmates

>>68374157
>if people flame me on twitter later for saying all this, then that's fine. But, as their friend, I will always prioritize my friend
based

>Sometimes it feels like everyone involved with me in some way ends up meeting an unfortunate fate.
Male vtubers learning the hard way-
>I'm drunk right now, so if people flame me on twitter later for saying all this, then that's fine.
Welp never mind, they'll never get it.

dingo's a good guy.

>>68374157
great dude, I bit too dumb, but still great

axel's a good homostar

>>68374157
apparently jap bootlickers want him dead because he said it was sad instead of gargling nijisanji cock KEK

>>68374157
Still not going to watch your homos.

>>68374157
dingo LOVE

Good on ya axel

He's braver than other male corpo vtubers that's for sure

>>68374422
kys

Jp faggots are not far off from the fags that plague this board.

>>68375157
I'm pretty sure they're worse in a lot of ways...

>>68374157
Relatively normal male vtubers are good take machines

>>68374652
Never forget those were the same niggers who triggered the Holocaust sending copyright claims to game devs like crazy and incited Aloe to do An hero, among other things.

>>68374157
Good dude.

>>68375197
because they still have morals and integrity

>>68374157
This almost makes me not want to avoid anyone who ever collabs with him. Almost.

>>68374349
Wait really? Where?

>>68374157
>lost two precious genmates
>precious
hahahahahahhaha

>>68374157
>It's not about who did something wrong
It is. There will be consequences.
I really hope she comes out with names, why they trying to protect the bullies

>>68374157
>if people flame me on twitter later for saying all this, then that's fine. But, as their friend, I will always prioritize my friend
What a fucking KING.

>>68374349
Don't know why he thought it was a good idea to say this in a JP zatsu instead of an English one

>>68375197
because vagina havers are all mentally ill

>>68375195
Not really. Nope. They're defending kurosanji the same way you all defend hololive.

>>68375669
Ya seriously, people think they can just take shit with no consequences these days because it's all online, as far as I am concerned getting canceled is needed these days since people think they can run their mouth. If they can't handle the heat of their words maybe they shouldn't have said them in the first place, regret all they want but you put yourself online, you accept that other people are online too. I am not here to fucking babysit people crying that they are being harassed if they brought it up on themselves

>>68375735
He was drunk and Japanese is his first language, and he’s there now. That’s about the extent of thought behind it.

>>68375601
He made that shit menshi immediately so it was probably just his own decision

>>68375669
Because someone being bullied isn't a reason to bully someone, especially a mob

>>68375761
That makes them worse.

>>68375761
Equating Hololive to a literal black company nijisanji that somehow makes slave small corpo contracts look good, give me a fucking break with that bullshit, go suck nijis cock

>>68374157
Unitroonsisters how do we spin this into drama?

>>68375914
Yes it is fuck them I am so tired of this soft ass snowflake mentality that has been trending online, and finally were getting people like Asmongold push back against their absolute bullshit mentality. If you put yourself online, if you fuck other people over, you should expect to get fucked with back. Why do we have to grant everyone immunity, being online is a privilege not a right

>>68375624
consider, anon, that his evaluation of his friends may be based on his personal relationship with them instead of whether or not people /here/ would approve of them

>>68375624
yeah he still cares about them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0cr02cyH4

>>68376061
calm down boy its just funny words and noises on a screen

>>68376061
This is an anonymous board. You are the snowflake. You know none of the people involved, and you just want a punching bag.

>>68374157
Axel causing drama to Hololive already what does he wants? And posting like this is fucking gay. Selen doesn't even need your input.

>>68376094
Our dingo really is just vtuber Hachiko

Crash Bandicoot...

>>68376187
>>68376188
nijiseethe

>>68374652
>>68374349
Proof?
If there were people saying that, they could have been fans of his saying it for his own sake so as to not cause him trouble or to add fuel to the fire.
It’s okay for rpr to have a more definite stance because he’s not in a corpo (I think?) but it’s more dangerous for Axel, who is in Japan atm and working for Cover corp, if he says anything remotely close to “fuck Nijisanji”
Fuck Nijisanji

>>68374157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wtvXoXh0VU

same energy

>>68376253
Cope and seethe

>>68374157
ME ME ME

>>68376253
>>68374251
>>68374422
>>68374661
die trannies

>>68374157
Kinda funny that Axel, someone from a different company, is showing more respect for Selen than a lot of her coworkers are.

>>68374157
get fucked homo, maybe if you'd stop collabing with the girls their careers and lives would be a lot less stressful and shit like this wouldn't happen. Keep drinking.

>>68376253
>Selen doesn’t need your input
You sure dude? Because it seems like none of her coworkers are speaking up for her. They’re friends, he’s not a stranger.

He doesn't have any friends left in niji so he has nothing to lose I guess

>>68376537
Does she want though?
Them throwing under the buss because of her bruised ego.
I don't think she want any post from her ex coworker.

>>68376716
I want SEA bootlickers to leave.

>>68376470
what did you expect him to do, spill the beans with details that he doesn't have?
to say something inflammatory so you can fling shit against him or hololive?
I hope you reconsider and grow as a person, then kill yourself

>>68376487
>you're not even trying LMAOOO

>>68376753
Go leave. I'm waiting anon.

>>68376716
we should of dropped more bombs...way more

You can tell that the true homosisters have better cadence and style of writing, compared to NDF that all write like dyslexic teenage girls. Kind of impressive.

>>68376094
Based Aussie bro

>>68376507
>>68376783
Please neckrope yourselves soon, trannies.

>>68374157
>I'm not in a position where I can stick my head into this. But I can say that I feel sorry for them.
That is a reasonable statement and it's not like Axel can say too much without pissing off management. Even if Selen works at Nijisanji they probably do have strict rules against discussing other vtuber companies. Japan has absurd defamation laws where the only requirement is financial damages so even honest statements can be risky.

>>68376914
Thank you for the compliment.

>>68376876
Go do it coward. Why don't yoy post on X too like Axel.

>>68376858
>Go leave.
lol. lmao even

>>68377095
>yoy

>>68376188
Ya I am sure that's what Selen thought about what her CO workers and management did

>>68377009
>Trannies
Why are you calling out yourself.

>>68375891
>being japanese enough to know how JP nijinigs act but still speaking in their language
A special kind of retarded

>>68374398
No shit, everyone who likes her is not stuck in that hellhole

>>68377095
>yoy

>>68374157
>I've lost an important friend.
if your friend gets fired they die in real life huh

>>68377136
>>68377202
Try harder.
Hi Axel!

>>68376487
???

You better enjoy niji while you can cucklords, they're fucking done

>>68374157
not reading all that

>>68377266
>yoy

>>68377236
Maybe niji has denied doki collab perms after all

>>68377236
Maybe he lives in the timeline that the suicide was successful

I truly can't comprehend the NDF mind. If anything, aren't you Japs known for necking yourselves at every opportunity? You'd think there'd be a bit more empathy for Selen.

>>68377329
LMAO

>>68376076
>>68376094
if he thinks they're precious that's his fault. Cause they're both dogshit retards who should never have been in holostars to begin with. Don't care if he values them on whatever personal level he does. Both are shit human beings causing pain and trouble for others

>>68377266
>yoy

>>68377316
Selen got fired and I feel sad since everyone I get close to gets fucked

>>68374157
Everyone associated with HoloPro likes Selen more than her own coworkers

>>68375943
>uncalled insults
And you think you're better than them? Not a chance bronie. You're as equally bad as those jp cock suckers. Keep insulting me though is fun seeing you monkeys lose your shit over being called out.

>>68377435
Yeah, by me.

>>68374157
>I'm not in a position where I can stick my head into this.
the story of your life faggot.

>>68377419
>Both are shit human beings causing pain and trouble for others
I'm sure it was all very traumatic for you, but the big bad men are gone now and they can't hurt you anymore. It's time to move on.

>>68377433
Kek

>>68376061
I'm sure people in Japan gives a fuck about what some hairy white retard has to say.

>>68377236
he's talking about an actual friend of his that actually killed themselves actually

>>68376914
>true homosisters
Are you saying that there are actually “good” homosisters?

>>68377419
Where did the big scary man touch you anon?

>>68377419
I don't disagree that they shouldn't have been in holostars to begin with but honestly it's probably best just to move on.

>>68374157
>Sometimes it feels like everyone involved with me in some way ends up meeting an unfortunate fate
it's karma for all the sex pesting,deserved btw, now cry more like a bitch

>>68376470
Wrong orange

>>68374157
Nta but I forget add this >>68364045
>he also said he thinks the EN announcement and JP announcement were worded a little differently and he thinks the true one is the EN version.
(they're pretty much the same but the JP version says Selen had repeatedly harassed management meanwhile the EN version doesn't say that at all)

>>68377433
Hi Axel!
Got your 3D? Now use that in a good content instead of lurking /here/ take your meds too. Hololive girls fundes that thing.

>>68377419
>if he thinks they're precious that's his fault. Cause they're both dogshit retards who should never have been in holostars to begin with
yeah dumb and dumber were a fucking disgrace

>>68377881
>fundes

>>68376914
I hate that this is so accurate and I've never made the observation before.

>>68377593
Yeah, it may come as a surprise to you but catalog shitstirrers calling women whores are not really how most "homosisters" behave.

>>68377881
>use that in a good content

>>68376498
Yeah. I feel bad for him

good take. some of you really need to rethink your priorities in life if this upsets you. i just hope he doesn’t drown himself in drink, as doing so just to process your feelings is a slippery slope. i don’t watch the guy, and i don’t have to to know when they speak facts from the heart. hope he does alright and gets through it.

>>68377881
the joke keeps writing itself!

>>68378084
As someone who watches Axel, he'll be fine. He always bounces back. He just has to cry it out first. Both he and Altare are very strong.

>>68378107
Yes cause it keeps you entertain and yoy keep replying. LMAOO KEWK.

>>68378175
blue guy's been quiet though yeah?

>>68378247
Altare just had his birthday and his 3D is this weekend so it is to be expected. He's really busy and probably pretty nervous in addition to practicing for his first 3D.

https://suki-kira.com/people/result/アクセル・シリオス
https://suki-kira.com/people/result/セレン%20龍月


NDF is ridiculously mad at Axel in suki-kirai
They are shouting that they are going to send complaints to the mail form of Cover Co.

>>68377881
You should follow your own advice and quit browsing /vt/ and take an English vocabulary course.

>>68378084
There's a reason this news affected him so much, and it has nothing to do with his vtubing career. Axel is pretty tough mentally though, he'll be ok.

>>68378339
>the shithole JP website with the most retarded japs known to mankind are pretending to be pissed
who would've thought!

>>68378339
What the fuck is that website.

>>68375669
bullies are just a symptom of a broken system. The ones who deserve to be named are the upper managers who created this abusive daisychain

>>68378352
I will do it Axel if yoy have the courage to the path of graduation speedrun. I would actually respect you. But since its proven you lurking here and probably talking shit about other vtubers uhmm nahhh...

>>68377801
I only see redditors being sexpests, please point out which comment is axel's?

>>68374157
Does anyone have this clipped per chance? Gathering all responses to the situation.

>>68378495
>yoy

>>68374422
He's talking about his genmates and selen you absolute fucking mongaloid. Not everything is about your ethots.

>>68376716
Dokibird was blocking concern trolling faggots like you telling others on xitter to not jump to conclusions and blame people like millie. Shove it up your ass faggot, like the repressed homosexual you are.

>>68378247
He and Axel both follow Dokibird.

>>68376498
He's also said a lot more.

>>68377871
>Nta
>"I" forget

Are you the intern that typed out the termination notice or something?

>>68378569
Go trace the thread Anon I have so many that "yoy"

You guys are actually mentally ill. It wasn't a meme after all.

>>68378621
Huh? What are you even saying to me? Do I know you? I'm not talking to you.

>>68377419
damn I wish vesper and magni molested me too

>>68377184
Just Asian Australian things.

>>68378495
You what nigga?

>>68378339
Do they know that NijiEN just died in the entirety of HoloEN's eyes? Do they think any of the holoEN could still support nijiEN and then still look Mumei in the eyes? Do they not consider that even upper management might be discussing it internally considering how even Jap shared it?

>>68377544
>>68377629
>>68377899
>>68378849
Vesper literally admitted to his vesties onstream that he applied for Holostars on a fucking whim never expecting he'd actually get in. Imagine the timeline we would've had if he wasn't retarded enough realize he wasn't cut out for his position, man's literally happier post-graduation than pre

>>68374157
hey now i can't hate him for this.... But even if he values his friends, I will still not watch him, he does not do the content I like, and he is a threat to the cgdct experience I watch Hololive for... If he could prove he is not a threat then I might be willing to give him a chance.

>>68379189
i mean so did mori, but she worked.

>>68379189
ok

>>68377236
he had a friend commit suicide when he was in HS

>>68379217
I honestly can't remember if he's ever done a collab with the girls so....there's your answer, I guess.

>>68379217
this nigga just wants to sing and dance and buy a house for his family, like the rest of them.

>>68379396
He collabs with ID I think

>>68379217
Well he doesn't do collabs with Holos for the most part. And he puts together a good song collab every year. It is mixed gender, but song covers shouldn't be a threat to cgdct as far as I'm aware?
That said, I like his covers, but I don't often watch his solo streams. Different game tastes usually.

>>68379217
>If he could prove he is not a threat
Bro they’re streamers, it’s not that serious.

>>68379483
Oh, right. Ollie, at least.

>>68376061
>people like Asmongold push back against their absolute bullshit mentality
>Asmongold

Prob wanna choose a better example than the guy who cries, bans everyone, makes a 2 hour video crying about people bullying him, then streams on an echo-chamber alt for 6 months whenever he gets the slightest criticism for saying dumb shit.

>>68378621
Millie is not the harasser sure she's a company bootlicker but she's not capable of bullying anybody selen and pomu likes her. So idk why everyone thinks millie is at fault of something related to selen. The only thing millie is at fault at is her blind loyalty to kurosanji and that's it.

>>68379396
Outside of a rare ID collab, there was only the two big group ones Ame organized that he was part of. Worms tourney, and the space game. Astroneer I think it was. All over a year ago now.
He is more likely to collab with an indie girl than a holo one.

>>68379684
That "oh no did you check with manesan that's so weirdddd" tweet did not do her any favors. It came off as mocking.

>>68377802

>>68379217
you don't have to watch him but stop being afraid of men.

>>68376914
Actual Holostars fans (like, the kind who watch them and buy their merch and hate collab beggars) are legitimately mostly hags.

>>68376507
Maybe if you stopped chasing after pixalated pussy took a shower and cut your hair and beard you wouldn't be a pathetic fucking virgin. Consider roping. You fucking piece of shit. I hope someone in your family is a victim of bullying and take their fucking lives to see how that makes you feel but even then I doubt you care about your family since they probably disowned you already.

>>68374157
KILL ALL MALES

>>68380037
After you die first.

>>68374157
>I'm not in a position where I can stick my head into this
>Sticks his head into it
The homos do this shit literally every chance they get lol

>>68377174
>no u

Can you guys leave my dog alone? He recently got neutered

>>68380173
Why would you do that to him?

>>68376507
>maybe if you'd stop collabing with the girls Nijisanji wouldn't be a black company
Your unicorn larp needs work, nijisister.

>>68378531
stay away from axel, you damn clipper

>>68377801
>Reddit
Nigga how is this your main point of reference. Are you retarded?

>>68376914
The last straight brotuber enjoyer is by necessity a literate, even-tempered individual, for he must see the console wars as what they are. In this, he time and again realizes that he and the sisters are more alike than different.

>>68377802
all orange vtubers are good, peak and cool

>>68374157
Respect. Axel's always been one to support those he cares about. Dingo might be stupid, but he makes up for it in pure heart.

>>68380093
You stick your head too.

>>68380604
Reminder that when vesper was losing his shit during his jp menhera arc axel wanted to get to close to him so he can help him but vesper being a mentally unstable retard told him to fuck off because he's an anti social fucking weirdo, Axel is a true friend. You don't find many guys like him.

>>68374157
It is a speech of a drunken teen...

>>68380864
He did say that Zidane from FFIX was the kind of person he wanted to become when he was younger.

>>68374157
>Selen gets terminated after attempting suicide
>this is really hard on ME
Man shut the fuck up

>>68381455
Your dying company cannot be saved, nijinigger.

>>68381455
Are you really that unloved?

>>68381760
your homofaggot got less viewers for his dramaleech stream than "kunai nakasato", a member of nijien no one ever heard of

>>68381846
But he still got paid more than they did. :)

>>68378339
だから飲酒配信は止めとけって言ったのに
>You shouldn't drink and stream

せっかく企業合同大会やってこれからもお互い仲良くやって行こうって空気作ったのに全部ぶっ壊したなあーあ
>We went through the trouble of holding a joint corporate convention to create an atmosphere in which we hoped to continue to get along well with each other, but everything was destroyed.

これやばいでしょ…
犯人探しやENライバーへの誹謗中傷を助長してるとも捉えかねられない
>This is dangerous...
>It can also be seen as encouraging the search for the culprit and the slander of EN Livers.

酔ってるは言い訳にならないんだよ…
>Being drunk is no excuse...

誹謗中傷対策の協定結んだ上場企業所属のアクセルさん?
>Is that Mr. Axel, who belongs to a publicly traded company that has signed an agreement against slander and libel?

ただですらあっちの誹謗中傷エグくて配信取りやめてSNSから離れる宣言してる人多いのにそれを助長させるような内容を配信に乗せんな
裏で話せるリア友いないんかお前
>Even though there are many people who are canceling their broadcasts and declaring that they are leaving SNS because of the slander over there, don't post content on your broadcasts that will encourage that.
>Don't you have a real friend you can talk to behind the scenes?

今さ、魔女狩りが起きてんだよね
タレントが根拠もなく誹謗中傷を受けてる最中なんだよ
誰の発言がどこをどう刺激するか分からない状況なわけ
当事者のタレント達が皆口を噤んでる状態で無責任な発言するなよ
お前の発言が火に油を注いだら責任とれんのか?
>There's a witch hunt going on right now.
>The talent is being slandered without any basis.
>It's a situation where you don't know who's words will stimulate where and how.
>Don't make irresponsible statements when all the celebrities involved are keeping quiet.
>Will you be held responsible if your words add fuel to the fire?

にじ姉さん!擁護しますよ!俺ホロスタ嫌いなんで!
>Niji-neesan(nijisister)! I will defend you! I hate holostars!

3Dお披露目は同期と順番逆だったら良かったな
お前の軽率な言動でアルテアのお披露目延期になる可能性出てきたぞ
>I wish the 3D unveiling had been in reverse order.
>Now there's a chance that your indiscretions may have caused Altair's unveiling to be postponed.

頼むから何にでも首突っ込もうとすんの止めて欲しい、ホロに飛び火したらどうするの
>I beg of you, I want you to stop trying to stick your nose into everything, what will you do if it spreads to Holo?

まぁこの人もENだし昔から著作権や活動への認識がJPとそもそも違うわな
自由が欲しいなら個人で活動するべきだし、安定が欲しいから企業に所属したわけでそこはトレードオフ
>Well, he's an EN, and his perception of copyright and activity has always been different from JP's to begin with.
>If you want freedom, you should work as an individual, and if you want stability, you belong to a corporation, so it's a trade-off.

>>68381894
>most tame bitch comments ever
damn… sure showed him…

>>68374157
>How can I make this about me and my feelings while involving myself in drama I have no part of
>when japan is very much anti Selen
gg

>>68381846
Nijizhang you might want to check the graphs.

>>68376537
> none of her coworkers are speaking up for her

OK let's say your coworker gets fired under suspicious circumstances like whistleblowing. Do you immediately get on your employee social media account and start blowing shit up, bringing more legal heat on your friend and yourself, or do you support your friend quietly while lawyering up? The latter will do far more damage to Nijisanji.

>>68381987
What exactly were you expecting? Death threats? They are just asking him not to be a dramafag but some are reporting it to cover.

>>68374157
he's a good lad

>>68374157
Axel is a good kid. Hope he's allowed to collab with Doki in the future.

>>68381894
Why the fuck do you care about some third rate website?

>>68376537
idk she seemed to appreciate certain old friends reaching out to her and providing support

>>68382258
I feel like this reaction of his is the result of knowing he won't be

>>68376253
>Holostars not Hololive.

>>68374157
The fuck is a menshi?
>cotton yarn (thread)
That doesn't help.

>>68382372
The homo is garnering TONS of antis so if anything happens with him, you know why. He had the bright idea to say it in jp when it's a very fiery topic there and they are anti purple dragon. Anycolor and Cover value jp feedback more than anything.

>>68382472
Is there any precedent for holo anyone collabing with reincarnated niji independents? Nothing springs to mind

>>68382472
I could see it happening, but continuing his team would be kinda awkward if they just replace Selen with notSelen.

>>68382718
>tons

>>68374157
Axel pulling a Baka Mane. Nothing really worth banishing it to memshi for content but knowing JP nijisisters (trademark) it's worth doing just out of principle.
>>68379903
What the fuck, I love Stars now

>>68382077
all the nijisanji members have alt accounts, and multiple members have showed concern for selen on either their niji account or their private account
the onus is on the ones who haven't to speak up

>>68382718
They don't care what Stars say though. Let alone Axel who management see as the retarded goldenboy.

>>68382725
Niji might hold cross corpo collabs hostage if anyone from holo collabs with her

>>68381894
How much in Keychain were they paid for licking rikus asshole like that

>>68382884
They haven’t done this with Vshojo as far as I’m aware though.

>>68382884
Nobody cares about what niji and their drones wants

>>68382718
They can't do shit lmao

>>68382884
I don't think they could stop JP cross collabs even if they wanted at this point. And EN--no one is left at NijiEN worth collabing with. And you know Kiara will collab with whatever Pomu reincarnates as

>>68382119
I'm responding to this ridiculous notion that she has no friends at Nijisanji because they're not all self-immolating on Twitter. I have nothing against Axel, seems tha only bootlicking JPs have a problem with such a benign comment... and from someone in a different agency.

>>68382718
And hololive blacklisting selen because fans of a branch they don't even watch would make them look worse which is what you nijiniggers want. At least yagoo isn't a piece of shit to pull a stunt like that. Get fucked nijinigger

>>68382968
They weren't terminated
>>68382977
It's more about holo en talents still wanting to collab with niji, mainly nerissa and reimu and altare and alban.. kiara has some friends there too but she's probably more interested in fairies.
>>68383087
JP is fine yeah

>>68381894
>Niji-neesan(nijisister)! I will defend you!
lmao

>>68382725
None that I know of in terms of indies. The closest would be Bettel collabing with Kuro. The dead Nijis never really interacted with Holos to begin with. It's really just Mysta, Selen, and Pomu.

>>68379903
seriously, I started following the recent hex drama I really thought most were a lot younger
and that's when I realized the whole axia drama with the mommy rp fanbase wasn't overstated
it's really weird how there a just a lot of wall-approaching nonnas out there who have had 0-1 bfs or 1 ex-discord groomer that end up in these fanbases
and even weirder are the fanbases where it's just all married women fighting over how much attention the internet boy gives them with other internet women (I pity hex, but at least he's making good money for SEA)

>>68382725
Bora just moved corpos but I feel she has to count for something

>>68375197
Why is it only the fucking psychopaths that blow up and get really popular anyways? Like just comparing him to immediate company, he was overshadowed by Magni and Vesper for ages who people were calling would explode before they even debuted.

>>68382725
Like another anon said, can't think of anything with ex-niji indies but Bettel collabed with Kuro so it's not that they can't collab with ex-nijis at all. If anything, should be even easier since there's less parties to get perms from.
I do think no one will be allowed to collab with Dokibird for a while, though. Once (if) things calm down a little then i don't see why not.

>>68382718
This is the branch of Gen that was actively saying Scarlet and Violet are dog shit as they were playing that Soullinked Nuzzlocke on stream and Magni was flaming Overwatch 2 and received no punishment. I’m sure they give a fuck

>>68379189
Vesper is just a crazy menhera and didn't want to start spending a month a year in japan or have to learn to sing and dance. Which is a shame too because those are the most fun members of holo to make do it.

>>68383273
Termination is a fair point but Altare is friendly with Sayu and that hasn't burned him yet

>>68382850
why would you speak up in public to make the situation more complicated? sure you can help bring down the hate train on niji but they're perfectly competent doing it themselves. talents have no obligations to share anything with the audience. if they're really friends with doki their obligations to her are to help with any legal action by keeping their mouths shut until the time is right...

>>68383418
To be fair, Magni and Vesper had the meme buff in addition to being good streamers. Axel had a rocky start because he was a 1view with very little streaming experience.

>>68383273
And they can still collab with them. Nobody saying they shouldn't. I'm just saying nobody cares about what beta cuck nijiniggers in Japan wants. And Nijisanji itself can't afford to lose them as partners so technically they can't do shit. If the collab bridge is chopped down it would be because nijisanji did it. And unironically right now. Cover would benefit if they distanced themselves from kurosanji. There's nothing to gain and their fans are already harassing covers talent what do you think those faggots are going to do if mumei snaps and speaks her mind as well. I don't want those type of people within the hololive fanbase.

>>68381894
>まぁこの人もENだし昔から著作権や活動への認識がJPとそもそも違うわな
>>Well, he's an EN, and his perception of copyright and activity has always been different from JP's to begin with.

lol at piracy in japan being treated like human trafficking and vice versa

>>68383605
I’m sorry you weren’t ever exposed to friends that give a flying shit about you Anon. Get some help.

>>68374157
>but because this is about my friend, part of me can't forgive them.
>I'm not looking for a fight with anyone, if anything I want things to end peacefully. But life isn't that easy,
BASED, AVENGING ANGEL

>>68382794
its happened a bunch of times in the FPS circle
meto and tsuna being the obvious examples

>>68383751
They're retarded. I swear this board told me Japanese had smart high IQ people.

>>68383833
I hope he encourages her to name names

>>68383837
Who the fuck told you that?

>>68374251
Seriously, fuck off.

>>68383796
actually i'm good. i was recently let go from my own workplace due to new management being clueless morons. my coworkers got me several referrals to other companies and now i'm wage-slaving much more effectively in a better position. at the same time they told management that they couldn't get things done on time without me as they all started interviewing during office hours. former company is now death spiraling.

you gotta play the game. support your colleagues and fuck management

>>68377485
Genuine question, do you not have the mental capacity to understand how the two corporation differs? How one is objectively much better managed, more competent and whose management seem to actually give a shit? And how all of this might make people more likely to condemn Nijisanji while giving Hololive the benefit of the doubt?

>>68383934
THIS FUCKING BOARD WITH THEIR CONSTANT ONE SIDED VIEW OF JAPAN. DUH.

>>68383689
I'm just talking about if niji gives holo the ultimatum of "selen or us", holo talents might choose to keep the niji collabs, not that anyone cares about the company or what's best or what fans want, just what the streamers want
>>68383578
Maybe the anon above is right about niji having no choice then

>>68381894
japs love to pretend they have real leverage against companies, they should try that in south korea if they wanted results

I just really hope this whole thing leads to no more Niji x Hololive/Stars collabs. I used to not care about the console war but seriosly, fuck Niji. Now i do care, and anyone worthwhile still left is less worthwhile the longer they stay after Selen's termination.

>>68384100
That's not funny.

>>68384063
Most of the shit you people complain about is men. You harass girls like kronii and mori when made ai voice horse porn of them because they dare to go against your one sided view of what an "idol" should be, that wasn't a dig at cover itself because I am an advent fag and I love that they gave me biboo to enjoy. The dig was more directed towards some of the fans who act like retards.

>>68381894
what slander? he didnt name any names or the situation it was in

>>68384224
The graduations are likely lined up for every month for the rest of the year. I'd be actually willing to bet on it.

>>68384224
There probably won't be. Kyo and Reimu are the only remaining members who've collabed with Holostars as far as I remember and obviously Kyo's bailing soon. Only Jurard has expressed interest in Niji collabs.

>>68382718
>tons
this is like 50 year old women on TMZ complaining you third world limp wrist faggot

>>68384481 (me)
I forgot, Ike and Hakka have also collabed but they're also friends pre-corpo so that won't change. Altare and Alban also collabed twice and then never again

>>68374157
based

>>68384142
If niji gives covers that ultimatum and covers gives it won't make them look any better than Nijisanji. Everyone who has followed this shit show from pomu being fucked over to selen being drove to suicide because kurosanji also fucking her and her fans over knows that cover not deciding to tell niji to fuck off would be right move. Like I said Nijisanji is in no place to make any type of fucking demands they can either playball or pick their ball and go home.

>>68377419
Interesting, interesting. Unrelated, I promise, but could you solve this puzzle for me?

>>68381894
Just Holo/Stars antis who always come out of the woodwork whenever they can grab onto the tiniest thing and run with it. Happens every time Holostars have nothingburger tier "drama."

>>68384671
Typo the right move would be to tell niji to fuck off.

>>68384671
Cover told China to fuck off so I don't think it'd be a hard decision for them considering they're also competitors

>>68384481
Jurard expressed that interest before the situation with Selen started escalating and way before the termination, and if i remember right he only expressed interest in a meme pinoy collab. Hopefully he has changed his mind by now, will drop membership if he hasn't.
>>68384647
Yeah, Niji has so much fucking people that i don't doubt some of them are okay, but now, if they continue to work for that company then i don't like them. Simple as.

>>68384647
Altare and Alban and Kyo collabed like 2 months ago and planned to collab again.

>>68383751
>Japan
>Shibari fetishes
>get off from their entire lives being bound in red tape

It is all starting to make sense....

>>68376914
It's extremely funny, hag fujos are built different. One time someone drew gore of Magni and Vesper and posted it in global while seething over a collab, and all of them were going 'ToT itadakimasu' because they thought it was a present from a kind guroanon.

>>68384908
I hope if it comes to that, that they do tell them to fuck off.

>>68384671
What? Nah. Nijisanji is fucked. Cover can treat them literally however they want and still come out clean.

>>68379684
>selen and pomu likes her
Lol. Lmao even.

>>68384981
fucking fujos man

>>68384671
I hope Holo has actually been getting better and not just rolling their eyes while doing whatever will avoid drama. I'm scared they'll fall back on corpo JP nonsense - "us big agencies gotta stick together", "gotta have solidarity against insubordinate talents" kind of thing.

>>68377086
Similar energy

>>68377593
yeah there are a lot of them on /mans/

>>68384647
Ver collabed with Altare once, and Shu also played Valo with him and Bettel before.

>>68385486
That's what I meant I fix a typo in another comment lol niji is fucked they can't make demands

>>68385601
I hope not, thankfully yagoo isn't a spiteful retard he's basically pro unity. But if Nijisanji try to push their luck I am confident that yagoo won't give in into their demands

>>68383751
Japs are huge corpo asslickers. Piracy is only a big deal there because big corporations have convinced people that it hurts their bottom line, even though every real study into the issue shows the impacts are negligible.

>>68386054
nta but during the whole china arc, didnt almost everyone except a few niji members like shiina & okayu cut communication with holomems? im surprised niji is allowed back into their graces still, especially the whole "protecting talent statement" they did during the aloe drama.

>>68385601
This outcome will decide Nijisanji's final fate. Up till now Cover and Anycolor had an alliance to jointly combat harassment of talent. Cover will catch wind of not only their own talents being harassed by Nijisanji fans, but of Nijisanji treating their own talents just as badly, if not worse than the harassers they claim to defend their talent from. If Cover determines that Nijisanji is no different from antis in this regard and announces it publicly, that will be Nijisanji's true death knell.

>>68384671
Cover knows they gotta keep EN happy if they want to keep expanding overseas. With how close the EN girls seem to each other, causing even just Mumei to pull out in solidarity with Doki if they make the wrong choice will likely cause a cascade of graduations that could severely cripple their EN branch.
God forbid Gura takes the chance to quit while this is going on, holoEN would be done for.

>>68381275
I thought he was trying to emulate Zack Fair

>>68385898
Ah, carry on good sir. My mistake.

>>68378339
Theyre asking for 7 more nukes

>>68377419
>reject seethe
LMAO
got outplayed by a fucking flip shitter

>>68386439
Yeah, if Mumei ends up choosing to support Doki on main then she'll have all of Promise backing her up too, i have zero fucking doubt. And at that point there would be no choice but all out war.

>>68376253
>Selen doesn't even need your input
Are you an actual incel?

>>68386439
>>68387179
WTF? What clues do we have Mumei is gonna go rogue? Someone spoonfeed me I'm OOTL.

>>68374157
>LARPING as Otacon
What a fucking faggot

>>68377801
Nodoka was never even up for your horny jerkoff sessions you inbred mongrel

>>68387376
What the fuck does that even mean

>>68377899
>astounded than a guy is still friends with guys who acted like retards but are otherwise presumably still bros
Are you a woman or trans

>>68387259
Nobody is saying mumei is going to go rogue retardchama. What I was saying is that nijijp cucks are already harassing a cover talent in axel over him expressing how he feel over his friend. If they can go after him they will also go after mumei if she were to speak her mind out regarding her friend. Axel didn't even said anything worthy of such harassment to begin with.

>>68384100
JP vtubers are better than EN ones but its not because they are intelligent. My JP oshi is dumb as a rock and I love her for it.

>>68387586
Got it. I'm retarded and I suck cocks.

>>68387259
Calm down, it was in response to the hypothetical scenario of Niji pressuring Cover to back them up due to corpo solidarity.

Mumei and Selen go way back, very good friends. Selen's roommate recently even tweeted about how Mumei's roommate offered to let her crash at her place to help keep her mind off things.

>>68381894
>>This is dangerous...
>>It can also be seen as encouraging the search for the culprit
Imagine unironically saying this

Fucking homo, just say a few pleasant words and move on. Better not get Hololive involved in this shitshow, fucking dumbass.

>>68387840
How would that even work, though? Is there a precedent Nijisanji has ever asked for Cover's backup?

>>68387897
tell that to Mumei

>>68382040
>>when japan is very much anti Selen
Reminder that Selen is chinese and that is a well known fact among the japanese.

>>68387897
NIJISEETHE

>>68381894
I will never understand the cucked Japanese mentality of doing your best not to stick your neck out no matter how shit things get.

>>68374251
But Holostars mgmt is not Niji

>>68387897
Shitting on Niji right now is free positive PR, anon, probably because it's the right, based thing to do.
The retarded JP NDF will see reason eventually, through force if need be.

>>68374398
Rosemi doesn't to be involved in drama and Petra is a cunt.

Some vile nijiniggers here actually shitting on this dude for having a moment of vulnerability. Pathetic.

>>68387716
I wasn't going to call you all that but jp schizos are 10x this board which is why I feel that if mumei speaks out it would probably bring those retards to her streams. Jp corporate loyalists can't be reasoned with. As it stands right now niji told them a different version of the events they painted selen as traitor and a bully. While their en termination letter they admitted that she was being harassed. They aren't going to bother to read learn English and learn the true side of the story. To them the story is what jp side told them to save face in front of public opinion.

>>68386489
>>68381275
any person out there having one of these two as role models and looking forward to be like them is already too pure for this gay earth

>>68386354
it's more of niji staying away from hololive to not anger their chink overlords. that company has been a cuck from the start.

>>68374157
Bruh his PL follows dokibird. I don't think he needs to be this dramatic but I guess if it's for closure then ok

>>68384781
The box, because that's where the ball is.

>>68381894
Classic nijidrones...

>>68387466
I forgot Starfags don't know video games.

>>68388404
It's probably a combination of him having a close friend that committed suicide before, Selen attempting suicide, him being an emotional drunk, and him being a saviorfag.

>>68374157
Why is he acting like Vesper, Magni and Selen died?

>>68388404
A friend of his in high school committed suicide, Doki made an attempt. I can see why he might be a bit shaken up. There's also the matter of even being allowed to collab with Doki, since Nijisanji will likely veto it.

>>68387897
>Hololive
A bunch of sisters aren’t going to be able to do anything to Hololive

>>68376487
you know thats your homos main demographic right

>>68387967
Bro read the thread, it's just a plausible hypothetical based on their livers' relationship on the JP side along with a joint statement against harrassment that's also been posted in this thread.
>>68388336
A part of me feels like Mumei's one bad akasupa from a nijidrone away from blowing up and severely escalating shit. She probably knows she's built up enough goodwill with management to get away with it to an extent too.

>>68386489
It's both.

Respect to him, don't let some brainwashed nips tell you what to do. They know fuck-all what's going on in EN.
t. Former dragoon

>>68379217
Where in OPs post did he ask you to watch Axel?

>>68389050
Nijisis you aren't subtle

>>68374157
>People from Hololive who know her have been making nice tweets wishing her well
>Can't get fuck all from people she actually worked with at Niji, not even her own genmates
That's really fucking sad honestly.

>>68375157
Where do you think the NDF originated? EN sisters are tame in comparison.

>>68374157

>>68374157
Let's be real a vtuber with only 200k subs at least won't have any impact on this shit. He's too small, you really think he'd get repercussions for this shit? He's barely recognizable and seen as an ant by other people.

>>68388909
Nijisanji can't do shit. Doki isn't owned by them. Only yagoo has a say in it

>>68388282
they've been doing this for months
>>/vt/image/a/IXM6vdu/P1uW6Gu1iQSg

>>68386439
Though I think it's unlikely that the departing nijiens would join Hololive, Cover embracing future collabs with (non-abusive) ex-niji ens would really go far in driving the fact home that they support the industry and its talents. Nothing that fans don't already know, but such a display of unity would be very powerful. Talents, tech staff, artists they work with - everyone deserves to work in a supportive and respectful environment.

>>68388232
Problem is he did it in JAPANESE which only scored him jpantis because they don't care or see what the issue is. It's not something corpo vtubers should be talking about drunk. Have a vent session with friends instead of trying to score points.

>>68389373
It's true. The Homostars fanbase is absolutely swimming with actual trannies. It's not particularly relevant to this thread though.

>>68374157
homochads

>>68388893
He was friends with those 2 and he is friends with doki. Are you retarded

>>68389517
Do your reps, they're doing it privately.

>>68389632
Mumei is big enough to get flamed that's for sure. If I were her it's better for her to vent it out on her members.

>>68374157
Axel has always been a good man.

>>68389636
>Nijisanji can't do shit.
Nijisanji can threaten to revoke permission to collab with the livers they still have, you dumbass. Cover would essentially have to choose between Niji collabs, or indies that used to be Nijis.

>>68388182
Unfortunate

>>68389750
Or if you do talk about it do it english.

>>68378339
Why don't we have a site this retarded? It looks like fun.

>he did it in Japanese
HOLY SHIT HOMOGOD I KNEEL

>>68374157
>so if people flame me on twitter later for saying all this, then that's fine.
In the end, it didn't happen... Guess he was just that irrelevant which is good?

>>68389906
Nijisanji can bitch and white all they want nobody cares what those brainwashed retards in Japan wants. You acting like everyone will be saddened if Nijisanji behave like a scorned woman. Get fucked nijinigger.

>>68389722
My personal rrat is her new manager was recc'd through holo contacts so even if she doesn't join in the future, which is honestly very unlikely anyway, she'll have very easy access to her friend(s) there for collabs and public interactions.

>>68389906
So they can do nothing then

>>68389846
Or just vent on her alt where she can be as open as she wants in her support without worrying about that shit.

>>68389906
Who would want to collab with a branch that's already falling apart? lol

>>68381894
>You shouldn't drink and stream
These fags don't know anything about Hololive. Bitch, we have someone on JP side who I'm pretty sure at least a little drunk 24/7.

>>68389779
I feel bad for your dying, dead company so I'll give you some advice: you might be able to bait our Holo (temporary) allies into friendly fire by larping as a beggar. Just send one of the girls, ideally Kronii, a superchat asking about Stars collabs, screenshot it, and post it to /hlgg/. Hope this helps.

>>68379946
ogey put that sake down axel

>>68387967
Yeah, they had a joint announcement about fighting (online?) defamation together.

Is this even considered a yab? This looks tame in comparison to the time Lui made that ATM comment a few years ago

>>68390113
Yeah he's acting like cover should be scared that riku is going to be mad. Riku does that guess what? His company is the one that's going to lose in the long run. Nijisanji are in the situation they're in because of their own incompetence and bias towards their EN branch. They have absolutely no power at all other than to pull their talents from collabs and that's it. Lmao

>>68390327
No hic want sum

>>68374157
thread BGM

>>68389015
Never forget the Holocaust, gentile.

>>68390523
See, now here's some good Nijinigger false flagging

>>68390358
No one in the Hololive fandom gives a fuck. I don't know why people think this, but I will tell you 99% of people that watch Hololive don't watch Niji or care about them besides drama shit and even then it's to laugh. It goes both ways really. Way back in the old days Nijifans on Jp really were fucking assholes, so even on Jp side maybe even more so Holo JP fans fucking hate them. They don't hate the talents normally, but the fans hell fucking yea.

>>68390523
Nobody cares about fagnis and vesper anymore. Get with the modern times nijifag.

From what I gather here.
>Axel will just get a slap on the wrist for saying something while drunk
>It isn't bad enough because he's only stating his opinion.
>Barely anything going around and just JP nijisisters seething about defending his friend (who almost took her own life)
In the end, fucking nips need another nuke.

>>68390841
Just kill Nijisan JP fans, they are actively terrible people

Nijijp and drones here who still support them are acting like the fucking ccp. How dare anybody speak their minds!

>>68390961
Nijis are literally paid by Bilibili to do this shit. They are a major stakeholder in the company

cover should let kson collabs for the lols

Hot take but I actually like Axel, yeah he’s a fuck boy, kind of retarded too but dude is like a puppy. The other homos? Don’t care in the slightest.

>>68389373
nijisisters are a bunch of trannies too, why would i friendly fire my hypothetical folks like that

>>68392632
>why would I attempt to pit groups against each other in order to distract from my black company?
Why indeed...

> Sometimes it feels like everyone involved with me in some way ends up meeting an unfortunate fate.
Sayori...