/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Speaking while Riku has a gun pointed to their heads

SHOULD HAVE PAID FOR A SECOND HITMAN

They dropped the receipts. Dokikeks lost.

>>68869563
chink, these screens prove nothing

>>68869346
So the video was not privated due to lack of rights to assets?

Also lmao, the manager apologizing for his tardy response.

>>68869740
Yes they do.
They prove that Selen was right when she said that they required perms for ex-Livers.

What the fuck.

>>68869346
flailing wildly in the dark

>>68869346
>manager takes 37 hours to reply

>>68869346
I love how they only show 1 message from selen

>ESL managers
holy kek imagine having to deal with this shit daily

>>68869346
>What the fuck are they doing?
Their best.

>>68869563
They literally proved Doki right in which the manager is a lazy fuck who takes days to reply.

>>68869858
>37 hours
>tardy
thst not being late thats called neglect

>>68869346
Why is her last tweet the only thing not time stamped

>>68870009
SAAAAR PLEASE TO NOT REDEEM OF THE VIDEO SAAAAAAR YOU MUZZAR BITCHARR DO NOT PUBLISH SAAAR

TOTAL HOMO DEATH

TOTAL HOMO DEATH

BEHEAD VOX
BEHEAD VOX

(parrot put me in the video)

TOTAL HOMO DEATH

TOTAL HOMO DEATH

>>68869346
Selen is fucked. All she had to do was not be fucking retarded and just send it in for reviewing before uploading.

Could you imagine Cover doing some shit like this, I actually can't.

>>68869346
>jp discord
>en twitter
Can someone check timezones and shit?
Also isn't it confirmation that management is japs even in english branch?

>>68870211
No company would do this.

>>68869346
Is this fucking stream monetized

>>68870055
>>68869858
It was on christmas. leave Nijisanji alone

>>68869893
The funniest thing is that none of the involved ex-livers has any control of their respective IP. The only one that does is Nijisanji.

Why cant selen just wait for the confirmation? She went overboard

Selen gaslighted them PARASOCIAL FUCKS
Finana beeg mouth. jpg

selen/doki is a narcisistic menhera
Nijisanji is a black company with incompetent management
I'm ok with nijiniggers dying off
I'm not going to be part of the doki simps you cunts are more manipulable than twitter trannies, ready to go to ar for reasons you don't understand, only because you're bored and you like repeating what others say like a bot
now all of a sudden Doki, the suicide attempt menhera is the good girl? kek

Were these in the document her lawyer provided? Are talents supposed to be reading or even be aware of these existing? I thought documents were supposed to only be shared between lawyers

>>68869346
Is Niji trying to outdo Wactor at this point?

>>68870211
Any decent company wouldn't do shit like this. I can't believe people keep defending this dogshit company.

>>68869346
oh god they had pajeet managers kek

>>68869346
>33 hours to reply
HAHAHA NIGGERSANJI HAHAHA

>>68870482
>i wont be part of the culture war

nijisanji is a troon company pick sides

former dragoon here. not going to lie that's some damning evidence against selen and the allegations of doxxing of Elira and private recording Vox is disturbing. I hope she gets some help

Jesus. Regardless of who actually ends up being in the right this was such a fucking retarded move.

Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that if a talent took a week to reply at any vtuber agency, people would defend them no matter what the context was but someone who actually has a regular job more akin to the one real people have taking a day to reply over Christmas is a criminal.

>>68870352
IF YOUR JOB IS A REMOTE JOB THEN DO YOUR FUCKING JOB 24/7

>>68870352
>Implying that ESL manager celebrates Christmas

>>68870299
Kadokawa did something similar with the infamous Seiyuu Shield incident during the Kemono Friends shitstorm.

NDF scrambling, the fires of Niji once again burning.
FUCK IT! THE DAY IS NIGH!

neopets stream was scheduled like a day or two in advance this was fucking putrid lol

>>68869346
>8k likes
damn so many niji bootlickers.

>>68869964
If your one job is to manage the fucking talent and you don't do your job for 37 hours, you're fucking garbage at your job

Walk into your day job 37 hours late and see if you're still employed

>>68869346
>since this video included ex-livers, it will cause more time to get confirmation
>oh wait it can't because THEY'RE FUCKING GONE
>somehow forgets the corpo owns the IP
what in the sweet motherfucker is wrong with their brains?

>>68869346
>before you post anything to explain about it, please confirm with me
holy lek control freaks

>>68870626
Not really, Niji EN was already done. They are being petty, but they are going to take down Selen with themselves.

>>68870605
We can't let Dokibird get the Uber Eats promo codes

>>68869346
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING KEK

>>68870211
Cover literally modded chinese communists in Cock's chat during the Tieone yabberno. It is only because Yagoo is desperate to have good PR that things worked out and he tardwrangled the dumber japanese managers, because I suspect yagoo wants western investment to his tech company and knows from experience westerners don't think it's noble to literally be enslaved by a corporation.

>IS THAT FUCKING REAL INFORMATION IN A LEGAL COURT CASE DOCUMENT???
>AIIEEEEEEEE I'M FEELING UNSAFE
What did Elira and Management mean by this?

>>68870352
The management is japanese and indian, two groups who dont give a fuck about chirstmas outside of it being an excuse to party. in japan they dont even give you christmas off for vacation.

>>68870050
OR the manager is severely overworked & it took that long to get back to selen about, higher levels of management might be a better target

>>68869346
>Christmas deadline for a 2 minute video provided at the earliest possible hour one day prior
>Manager doesn't even glance at it until closing time the next day
What kind of support is that?
>B-but working christmas day
Assuming management isn't too Asian for Christmas, it's the entertainment industry, timing is everything and tight deadlines are the norm. It goes both ways, how many times do you think management pushed the talents into rushing something out?
I hate this fucking company, it's core and makes the people in it rotten too.

>oh there are ex-livers, it will take some extra time to get permission
>from who?
>don't worry about it, I know it's already been delayed but this will probably only add another couple of months, hang tight!

>>68869346
they are basically proving that the staff actually didnt do their job lmao, good job.

Somebody thought this message chain was acceptable for a PR release, LOL
If they think this level of control freak management and talking down is acceptable to show to the public, imagine how much more shitty they are behind the scenes

>>68869346
They really thought they were cooking with this one

The utterly fucked part is she was willing to let sleeping dogs lie and move on they literally set them selfs up to fail.

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757218064058155099
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757218064058155099
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757218064058155099

>>68870865
Oh you must work for the PR department. I can tell because you're fucking braindead.

>>68870992
>higher levels of management might be a better target
Ahh, but from the Sayu situation, we know that going to another manager is also a no-no

>>68869346
>meanwhile doki lawyer calls her in the same fucking moment shit is happening
she got lucky with the lawyer

So... At least we can confirm the Elira clinque in Nijisanji is real?

>>68870942
They committed career sewerslide

>>68869346
Trying to salvage the dumpster fire that is NijiEN by pouring gasoline on it.
Dumb fucks.

so when is their ceo releasing his statement?

>>68871107
And they said
>Please leave her alone
Like wtf are you saying?

>>68869346
this prove the management do neglected their talents. . welp that explained much about nina and mysta graduation LMAO

I'm guessing Doki is going full scorched earth now??

>>68870761
or it wasn’t that manager’s only job, & they’re simply being overworked by the higher levels of management

I don't know what the fuck they expected with this?

Nijisanji just lost 3 percent of their stocks due to that video

>>68870992
How's that boot tasting?

>>68869346
Did they actually think it was a good idea to highlight the timestamps? It just makes them look worse.

>>68871155
This sounds like Niji can get RAPED legally. Can any lawfag confirm?

>>68869346
They went straight past being a Black Company.
They're on some fuckin VantaBlack, Black 2.0 kinda shit.

>>68871159
Calm down Nijisister, your branch is finished, just accept it.

fuck nijisanji

>>68869346
>clique isn't real
>btw here's a private image my manager sent me, even though it's NDA it's fine because it's me ily so much <3
you can't make this shit up

>>68871373
She already said she will, but first will consult with her lawyer.

>>68870605
It's a legal document, of course it will have private information kek

>>68870865
>try

>>68871275
>Please leave her alone
>Btw heres a rap sheet of everything wrong with her, she sucks, Kurosanji rules
>Btw please leave her alone
Absolute fucking retardation.

>>68870482
>selen/doki is a narcisistic menhera
Most streamers and content creators are. That doesn't mean she is guilty of the shit kurosanji is trying to push. Suicide is a common symptom for working in a black company.

>>68869346
Tourist here. I haven't watched the video. Did they show any other "receipts"?

>>68871416
XLR8

>>68869346
whats wrong? they're showing everyone how hard it is to work with chinese women

>>68871447
Yeah pretty sure that's a felony

>>68870299
Anon, Wactor unironically posted a legal paper on twitter with a chuuba's IRL name and home address once.

Nobody knows what black companies could be capable of.

This is actually crazy. How in the fuck could a billion $ corp do something that unprofessional? Elira and Vox will literally never get away from this stigma.

>>68871620
nope

>>68870741
well, another Jap company

>>68871392
idk man, respond like "hold it for a moment, selen. I'm still busy with something" kind of messages is easy you know. it took me 10 sec to type that and the management should be able to do that in one hand too because you know, phone exist.

YOU FUCK BITCH DO NOT REDEEM
DO NOT REDEEM THE VIDEO
SIIIIIRRRRR DO NOT

Obviously ESL managers sucks for the livers but imagine having to be the wagie ESL trying to speak in a language you barely understand with internet-pilled zoomers all day.

>>68869346
It's this real?

Help me lay out the stupidity.

>Includes screenshots that contradict their own termination reason
>self-report to being included on the civil complaint, all but confirming them as the bullies
>claimed that the (sealed) legal document was a threat to doxx them
>the sealed document they shouldn't have access to (unless they are co-defendants, which seems unlikely)

What else am I missing?

>>68871620
no. but Vox and Ike did leak other supposed things she did just without screenshots

>>68870605
> Doxxing Elira
> In a legal document
Stop being retarded.

>>68871155

>>68869346
Isn't this the same bullshit that Kadokawa pulled when they fired Tatsuki from directing Kemono Friends? The backlash was so bad that they made the voice actors apologize on their behalf, which is an insanely bad look no matter how you spin it?

>>68871447
You don't have to be a lawfag to know doing that is illegal as fuck. Yeah, they're pretty fucked.

Niji management is going full retard

>>68870050
This

>>68869346
I'm perfectly willing to believe Selen repeatedly ignored what management told her, that's reasonable and in-character for her.
What I don't understand is what fucking concentrated force of PURE RETARDATION is leading Niji's PR team right now. It's like they're out to choose the stupidest move possible at every turn, it's like they're internally doing a Sink the Yacht RTA.
At this point I'd actually bet that their PR team is actually just disgruntled employees or Selen insiders trying to sink the corp.

>>68871155
The Elira video is very unnecessary. They are really trying hard to save face.

>>68869346
qrd?

>>68871620
That was it
Their response a month of bad PR was 5 screen clips with no hint of what happened inbetween

>>68871626
>checking few things is hard

>>68870755
Botted

will Niji private the video message?
I'm willing to give it 6 hours till private

>post yfw NijiEN will capsize itself via legal means from a foot-in-mouth mistake

>>68871875
Nijisanji won.

>>68871654
Oh shit, you're right lmao

>>68870050
Well, it was Christmas...

>>68871168
She can afford to retain a good lawyer with the simpathy money

>>68871666
Japs are bootlickers who slurp up corpo slop and they figured Westerners would too

Riku is gonna lose the yacht in the lawsuit now

>>68869346
destroying the industry because they can't admit their mistakes

>>68871471
I don't watch niji, bro, im just a drama tourist like you

>>68871875
Niji went beyond retard and just used a stream to break the law several times

>>68871875
Nijisanji

>>68871765
People this stupid can't possibly have lawyers, right?

This is so fucking sad man Doki really was alone there...

>>68871426
anon, I’m just saying that like selen, there might be INDIVIDUAL LOWER on the hierarchy managers that are also being abused by the rest of the inept management & company

niji is fucking dead
the real question is who is fishman going to save

>>68871838
>no PR team
>clearly no Legal team
Are we sure Niji actually has any upper level staff?

What a time to be alive.

>>68871765
Yup, both sides are being petty bitches. We're in for another ride boyz.

>>68871947
quickest PR death in vtuber history

too much saviour faggotry rn to discuss this properly. Selen will prob get in legal trouble if more proof of similar shit comes out. Probably why she wanted to let it "die".

>did someone say more Niji drama?

>>68871915
>will Niji private the video message?
>I'm willing to give it 6 hours till private

someone better save the video and chat reaction

Isn't it kinda her fault though? A video like that would take months to make. It could've been shown to management at any point in the process and the whole thing would've been avoided.

>not being sure that upper management would okay the video because it includes livers that they own and have parted amicably with the company
LMAOOOOOOOOOO

>>68871624
LEVEL 6 ACCERIKKU

>>68869346
Accelerating

>>68871971
If JP management thought they did anything wrong, they would have apologized in person. That's how it's done in JP. They probably think this isn't a big deal.

>>68871917
Nice gif

>>68870605
FUCK OFF MILLIE

>>68870605
please learn more about legal documents before posting here, falseflagnigger.

>>68872069
rosemi, everyone else may be at least in a couple of KOS lists

>>68870482
finally something I agree with

Someone please explain to me what was the thought process behind Nijisanji EN doing this, because I'm not smart enough to understand why would they do it, like at all, what to they win with this?, what do they earn?, what's the benefit of doing that stream?

Anyone else find it weird that Petra's tweet said she would be speaking but was mysteriously absent?

>>68869346
Isn't the possibility of her hospitalization being part of those documents, and thus leaking them, a global world recognized crime?

Didnt they say that Tazumi will be making his own video soon?

>>68869346
Is there not an official NIjiEN youtube channel? Why the fuck would they drop this on one of their talents channels?

>>68872146
all of them are tired of Niji related news/drama, aren't we all?

>>68871620
They showed one screenshot that had management take 33 hours to reply to Selen kek

So, was Vox forcing Doki to collab with him or he would make sure manager took a couple of extra days to get permissions for her stuff? Was Selen literally getting blackmailed into promoting these people? The fuck is going on?

>>68871990
The forest is most lush after a fire, and a fire is overdue

Literally what did they hope to accomplish here?

>>68871875


>>68871749
We are approaching unheard-of levels of self-own here.

>>68871392
I heard a JP talk about weeks once...
In this case it wasn't just Christmas but also Nijifes on the 24th which means the manager could have been more busy than usual.

>>68872111
As someone who never watched a single Niji or Selen stream, my popcorn is ready.

>>68871749
Don't forget that they admitted to negotiating her contract while she was in the hospital with her emergency contact -- and do to terrible ESl, its unclear if they were using the contact to relay information or were straight up expecting the set the terms and everything.

This is the thing about horrible people: their narcissism typically extends from profound stupidity rather than some 4D chess Machiavellian scheme.

>>68871688
>>68871750
>>68871889
Naruhodo. That doesn't seem worth the 15 minute video.

>>68872248
Japanese autism, please understand

>>68872283
I'm pretty sure False is loving every second of it.

>>68871966
>Well, it was Christmas...

How is that an excuse? A lot of businesses have to work and be open on xmas.

>>68870605
It's a legal document, dipshit. The only people doxxing are the people in that video, because they broke NDA. And now Doki has to release information in response. Those idiots literally doxxed themselves in fear of being doxxed, downright Oedipus's themselves with a self-fulfilling prophecy.

bro what the fuck is this company doing lmao

So what's the likely chance Nijisanji EN still exists by the end if the year?

>>68872256
sure would

>>68872273
Is this recent? is this a literal 'kiss the ring' moment?

>>68871972
Good, I just membered to give more sympathy money.

>>68871838
I honestly think the western fans are like their Japanese base.

I have never watched Nijisanji a day in my life and never will again but as someone who has had a job, they are definitely in the right here on a practical level and it's a shame they cultivated a fanbase exclusively of subhumans who will always take Selen's side.

>>68872229
Rosemi has a great model but can we really trust her?

>>68870133
How is anyone at niji doing their job if they don’t know or tell her until AFTER the art’s ALREADY BEEN COMMISSIONED AND FINISHED

>>68869346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxZmiVUQksA

Even Nina Kosaka posted!!!!!
Now we know it was management

>>68872385
oh, right, except him I guess

>>68872205
they would rather try to save face and pretend nothing is wrong until pushed to the edge.

>>68872146
these niggas are eating too good lately

>>68871875
>Admit they privated the stream because of Mysta and Nina
>Leaked Lawyer to Lawyer Documents to the livers
>Used the Clique reading off a script to try and use them as a shield

>>68872205
have you forgotten about jap company and big scandals are pairs made in heaven?

>>68872256
No. Might violate PIPEDA if they showed private medical records to staff though. That would likely result in a large settlement.

Is their management retarded or something?? Who in their right mind thought this was a good idea?

>>68872427
>as someone who has a job
What if you had a actual job that wasn't posting in a online imageboard

UPPER MANAGEMENT PLEASE TELL THE PR GUY TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LET SHIT BLOW OVER HOLY FUCK THIS IS LIKE STEP RIGHT UP JONES WE GOT A FUCKING YAB

>>68872415
no this is quite old

>should we use a en official channel for this?
>no need
>ok...

>>68869346
Giving Selen/Doki's lawyers the win without them having to do anything.

>>68871765
letsgoooooo we are in another ride. it would be amazing if doki win this one

>>68871001
>one day prior
That's called leaving it to the last minute

>>68872453
Proof?

>>68872281
>>68869346
Also, why the fuck would Elira and any of the others agree to do this? Just take the termination, retard. Nothing positive for them was ever going to come out of going through with this.

>>68869346
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SELEN
WE HAVE TO ASK THE VOICES IN OUR HEADS IF ITS OK TO USE OR OWN FUCKING INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IN OUR OWN VIDEOS

THE PARROT HAS LOGGED ON

>management was slow to respond to me therefore I can ignore the rules

??????????

>>68872273
This image makes me cringe

This confirms to me that yacht-owning cocksucker is axing the branch entirely and they're using Elira as their John Marston

>>68871416
>impact will be negligible
Wonder how that guy feels right now.

>>68869346
>What the fuck are they doing?
Killing themselves much more successfully than Doki did, clearly.

>>68872485
I work for one, and we've sadly had two, one national level. If JP management isn't doing the talking, they simply don't consider it a big enough problem yet.

>we need 30+ hours to say we need more time for permission for our own former livers

>all the comments to Elira's video are trashing her

She was so close to walking away from all of this unscathed. So fucking close. Not only do I think she really is the leader of the clique now but I think she is retarded. This was one of the worst ways to handle this. She could have lit Doki's house on fire and that wouldn't have been this bad.

>>68871692
indeed, but that isn’t conclusive proof. All I’m saying is we don’t know for that specific individual if that’s the case or not.
Though it’s obvious large swaths of the management needs to be restaffed & restructured

>>68872354

Where the fuck was that??

>>68869346
breaking NDA, that's what they're doing

>>68871447
Anon it was confirmed by Niji lawyers, its totally ok :)

Wait am I hearing this right? The talent have been given access to the legal documents regarding Selen and Niji? What in the absolute fuck

>>68870605
I'm this former dragoon, trust me, and as a black man I'm wondering why we always getting hassled by the police cuz we sposed to go to dang college? Selen said she'd make the dang sneakers free and shit

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757218064058155099

>>68872627
personally it makes me laugh, it's humor on a cosmic scale

Holy shit those Nijjers just An Hero'd themselves. What a time to be alive.

>>68872146
Kill yourself, and let them follow you.

>>68870009
This is daily life in a lot of "tech" companies today.

>>68872542
I worded what I said very carefully and you still misquoted it to say something I didn't.

>>68869346
>Actively ignores work protocol
>Instead of admitting her own wrongdoing, proceeds to double down and weaponize fans
Bitch should've been let go ages ago. She's lucky they didn't sue her first

>>68872349
I couldn't care less if they all crash and burn. Also another reason none of them should ever even be consider for Hololive.

>>68872281
They want the backlash to hit Elira. That's why shes been silent for days.

RRAT TIME: Elira was on her way out, NIJI tells her "Hold on there! We need you to do something for us before you go or you get the Selen treatment."

>>68872429
She has like 5 character witnesses already in Phase so if they trust then I trust

>petra and rosemi have been radio silent since the incident
they're next aren't they

>>68872705
I wonder if they tried to get other people on the stream but these three were the only ones retarded enough to do it

>>68872758
They cannot have any form of legal consul, no one would've approved this

>>68871188
yeah no shit rrats a real

Which medical documents got leaked?

>>68871765
Uhhh is Selen throwing her lawyer under the trolley car here or does she think you can name a bunch of people as defendants and they won't get shown the legal documents?

>>68872746
Screencap my post in your video, faggot

>>68872531
A greedy, senior egotistical Japanese business man, who is completely out of touch with the public, his employees, and the legal implications of his bungled actions.

>>68869346
Oh wow, seems like Nijisanji's management is incompetent, retarded and can't respond in a timely manner.

>>68872692
>your OWN and fucking RETIRED livers

>>68869346
>Have to run everything by a manager who lives in a different timezone and takes over a day to reply
>If there's anything that can be considered even remotely NG, even the most innocuous thing imaginable, he has to run it by someone else, wait for their approval, and then relay that back to you
I wonder how deep this maze of red tape actually goes.

>>68872427
>People aren't allowed to have legal advice, that's doxxing
>Proceed to leak private information to actual people not supposed to see it in the process
This is you and their argument. You idiot. You absolute buffoon. Flipping burgers does not make you a legal expert.

>>68871889
it's really cool because it confirms there were no copyright issues, just internal procedure issues
And selen made them look bad :(

>>68872205
>That's how it's done in JP
nigga Kadokawa fucking blackmailed the VA's of Kemono Friends to make them apologize in behalf of them, pretty similar to all of this shitshow

>>68872841
>RRAT TIME: Elira was on her way out, NIJI tells her "Hold on there! We need you to do something for us before you go or you get the Selen treatment."

EXTREMELY believable rrat this one

>>68869346
>So why this is released
they really were that retarded and ESL

>>68872893
I'm very surprised that Millie's self-preservation instincts worked for once

>>68870605
You have been intentionally misled by scriptwriters that (correctly) assumed you'd be too stupid to think about what they were saying any deeper than the tone of voice it was spoken in

>>68869858
Classic. I said it from the start because both Doki and NijiEN implied it, but it was an issue with the use of a liver's image, which is super retarded, doubly so because it was supposedly about people who don't even work at the company anymore.
Some fag manager had a stick up their ass about old employees moving on, it's absolutely retarded.

>>68872542
it's obvious falseflagndf sister. there's no way outsiders licking a company's boot

>>68872909
Pure supposition on Selen's part at this point.

>Leaking documents to other livers with no survivors
So when will Vox do a handcam stream of him playing with the ashes of a dead person?

>>68872441
Its a final screening, before they give the ok to upload it, this is common practice. Are you unironically a basement dweller with no real life experience?

>>68869346
>that "english"
I thought saying their managers are indian was a joke

>It ACTUALLY GOT WORSE

Under pretty much every circumstance, the majority of people will always side with the underdog i.e not the corpo, regardless of who is at fault. Throw attempted suicide into the mix and you'd think for a bunch of terminally online vtubers they'd realize the best course of action is to stfu

The Aristocrats!

>>68872819
That's the part that at least proves she's legitimately mentally ill and not faking that she would kill herself for attention.

>>68872393
nigga fuck that i aint working on a holiday unless its triple pay

>>68872590
Imagine if they used AI voices to make the stream, I would laugh at Nijisanjis further degeneracy into cartoon villainy.

>>68872427
There is no way you have a real job. People that earn above minimum wage don't actually believe the company is their friend, they just say that in public.

THE RRATS

>>68871838
>this

Did the comments about them sharing nda information to the talents get deleted from the youtube comments

>>68873060
MA'AM DO NOT REDEEM THE SONG

It's insane that people were right about Enna being the bully the first hour

>>68873091
man bird and false are going to be eating fucking good holy shit

Anyone got the NijiEN sub counter?

>Go back in time
>graduate selen politely, saving face on both sides

>>68872601
If anything, this shows that the livers still have some control over their character even after they leave the company. That's a good thing, if anything.

What the actual fuck made them think this was a good idea?

>>68873102
kek

>>68870992
Yeah, because that's totally what Matara said when she talked about how things are so much better at vshojo and management not only does their job, but are PROACTIVE about things.

Acceleeeeraaateeee

So NijiEN will be rolled into the main branch by the end of the year. Kotoka and Meloco can finally join JP

>>68872819
Daily reminder Selen was going to leave it alone. She didn't say anything in particular against Niji, just that they'd privated the video, which is objectively true.
Niji brought all of this on their own heads. They could have kept it internal, but instead they just had to throw out a massive grudgepost not once but twice now and any damages they suffer are entirely deserved based just on that fact alone.

>>68872953
It's a Japanese company. That's standard protocol. EN bitch didn't think of it as a job and instead a hobby

>>68869346
Note late reply, seems they forget for an entire year to ask if it wask ok for the ex livers to show up that they need to wait until the video was out

HOW ARE THEY MAKING IT EVEN WORSE?? THIS IS A MEDIA COMPANY AND THEY DONT KNOW BASIC PR???

>>68873102
KEK

>>68869346
shit on selen or you are fired

>>68872229
>KOS
Meaning what

What in the ever living fuck is this company

>>68873244
Chinks get real mad when you make them lose face.

>>68872959
TV Tokyo management apologized. Eventually.

>>68872880
Or maybe they just have a brain.

>>68869964
>>68870761
Anons it's literally Christmas lol. I wouldn't have replied until the 8th of January.

>>68873388
Kill on Sight probably.

>>68869346
I'm actually amazed by how... dense(?) Anycolor is being to the current online sentiment.
Do they not have a PR department?

Why didn't she just wait for approval?

>>68873094
That's what's great about this one, NijiEN in all their wisdom decided that instead of shutting the hell up and let it quietly be forgotten, pouring petroleum into it would be a better use of their efforts.

>>68872705
WHY ELIRA, WHY. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS KEEP QUIET AND I WOULD'VE KEPT JERKING OFF TO YOUR TITS. WHY.

>>68873388
Kiss On Sight. Stay away I want to be the one to do it.

>>68873317
>management is retarded
>management is actively ruining my life/livelihood
>guess I won't do anything about it

>>68872749
Its in the original termination notice. I don't have it on me but paraphrasing is something like "we attempted to negotiate [or synonym] with Selen's emergency contact while she was in the hospital but she refused to reach an agreement so we decided to part ways"

>>68872841
She's still responsible for actually doing it though. It's extra retarded if she is actually on her way out, because she's basically made herself into a pariah in the industry.

>>68873463
I am convinced EN is being run by highschool dropouts.

>Impact will be negligible
>Literally make a video in response to the supposed negligible impact

>>68873102
KEKAROO

>>68872915
>does she think you can name a bunch of people as defendants and they won't get shown the legal documents?
It wasn't a lawsuit retard, it was a formal letter between lawyers.

>>68872157
>can't you get approval from an incomplete video
Try and rethink this.

>>68873317
Counter example: hololive

watching all this unfold on /vt/ while listening to Henya streaming is the most surreal thing.

like listening to a sweet kettle while seeing Niji go to hell

>>68872957
Their treatment of Selen was in the right, the current stuff is in response to her crazy antics which were wrong. I don't really care whether their response is right (it probably is) because the dust hasn't settled and it wouldn't have happened if not for her being wrong.

>watching previous vox fangirls turn on him in real time on twitter
holy fuck

>>68873480
you thought the selen menhera posting is shitposting?

>>68873310
>She didn't say anything in particular against Niji, just that they'd privated the video, which is objectively true
You must be retarded. What part of "please feel free to reupload" do you not understand?

>>68873407
Yup Doki showed her true chink self.

>>68871982
Doki taking it to paint it purple and yellow, then rename it to the SS Dragoon would be comedy gold

>>68873250
If you believe that bullshit your as retarded as their management

>>68873480
She saw the potential to get famous with suicide bait + fuck over the company

>GURA STREAM
>MOOMEI KARAOKE
>NIJISANJI BURNING TO THE GROUND
ITS A FUCKING GOOD DAY TO BE A HOLOCHAD

>>68873102
LMAO

>>68872554

>>68872354

Is there a source for this

>>68872915
>defendants
Nigga is this a criminal case?

>>68873480
Why did it take management 37 hours to respond to a tight deadline over a TWO MINUTE VIDEO

>Niji was in the right
Figures, I guess it's a good thing Doki cashed out before the receipts went public.

I have a hard time believing any company is retarded enough to put out this half assed high school tier drama video regarding legal documents. Surely their lawyers would have told them what an absolutely stupid idea this is. Are they trying to burn themselves to the ground? This fucking shit storm had finally started dying down a bit yesterday why do this? How absolutely fucking brain dead and tone deaf do you have to be to do this?

>>68869346
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtime_for_Hitler
This, except they're succeeding.

>>68872746
>He bought the checkmark
Parrot I...

>>68873656
never a bad day, friend

>>68873656
Cheers

>>68871654
Yeah but Wactor is Wactor. No other company has sunk that low, yet.

>>68873480
Chinese woman moment.

>>68870605
Former Dragoon here, its funny watching Selen crash and burn but seriously we cant let that girl get a hold of the nuclear codes

>brings out beloved member of company to push agenda
>everyone turns on said member knowing the person who got fucked over deserves better
I'm really looking forward to this year's nijimania how bout you guys

>>68873413
After burning to the ground the next big ass IP and killing all good will fans had at the time.
Wonder if Niji will do the same in the next weeks after losing the legal battle, like it would be turbopetty coming from Doki, but god damn would feel so good after all this fucking circus that Niji brought to themselves

Everyone ready for Nijisanji to forget to request that their livers identity be kept private when discovery gets publicized.

Are vox and Ike their most popular remaining talents? I don't get what either of them have to do with this.
Millie, Elira and Enna seem to be the people that are being pointed to as potential culprits.

I have never seen a single second of any vtuber but this past week has been fun as hell, and vtubers are actually kinda fun to watch

what's scarle like, she part of this shit or nah?

>>68872554
negligible subscriber losses!

>>68872841
>the selen treatment is when they lock you in an empty room with a razor and only let you out once you've slit your wrists

>>68873748
Seems that might change, real soon.

>>68873487
Keep jerking off to her tits anyway? A rotten personality does not nullify a rocking bod.

>>68873748
AkioAIR is almost as bad

>admit that third parties have read private communications between lawyers
>admit you leaked court docs
>admit it on fucking livestream
WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

>>68869346
The crazies shit they said was: It damaged Anycolor reputation

>>68873091
I am so sorry for Parrot I hope his oshi gets a cruiseliner

Oh he can get some melatonin too if he needs it

>>68869346
>>68869346
even if we take the selected posts at face value this also implies that selen only had a few hours to react to the thing being declined given jst/pst conversion when she probably already had it scheduled. Even that was a rrat I didn't want to put out there.

>>68872984
if you like Elira you better believe this with all your might until you channel the warp powers and make it real

>>68873610
Yes, and if Niji had left it solely at that, which Selen was entirely willing to do, that would have been the end. Instead they've shat their pants and started smearing it on the walls while complaining how bad Selen smells.

>>68873695
And if we know about this, what else do we not know about? It's likely a pattern of behaviour.
>>68873738
It's a japanese company, preaso undastan

>>68872298
alternatively, my rrat is that management has vox in a walled garden, he’s their golden goose right?

>>68873317
>It's a Japanese company.
operating in Canada
if you can't keep to the laws of a country, go back

>>68872880
Being silent is the smartest thing to do in this situation. I respect them for that.

>>68869346
Selen/Doki is gonna get fucked in court, this is why you don't go full kamizake against a company without solid evidence.

But in the end this will damage NijiEN image beyond repair, Selen will go broke.

>>68873738
Anycolor probably did this under the retarded assumption that it would save their stock because it seemed like even their shareholders were terrified.
So far it doesn't seem to be working.

>>68873550
Tazumi himself is going to be posting a video later.
Negligible.

>>68873480
Why did management wait for over a year when Lilypichu gave them perms in August of '22

>>68873480
>37 hours to review video
That ESL just shunted it up the chain of authority, 100%

>>68871838
There has to be some upper management guy telling people what to do and no one dares to speak against that person. Because I refuse a collective group of people sat down and thought this was a good idea.

>>68873548
Worse, indians.

>>68873889
>WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
Anycolor lawyers apparently, lmoa.

>>68873812
the fact that there is overlap between vt drama fans and wrestling fans is fucking hilarious to me

>>68871654
>on twitter
and in her youtube channel description/community/pinned comment/video information

>>68873656
Looks like it's going to be another good Valentines week bro

>>68872427
>>68873587
Hey pal. Cheated in ethics class?

>>68873656
damn it feels good to be a gangster

>>68873868
nah, Scarle is too low on NijiEN hierarchy to bully someone

>>68873738
>tfw was literally thinking earlier "ah I guess all the drama's died down"
They're so fucking stupid bros

>>68873571
You don't just start making a video. There's storyboarding, planning, sketches, scripts, plans, etc. If she had made her intentions clear to include those ex-livers and her other plans then this wouldn't have happened.

How do you even salvage this? Fire the entire EN management?

>>68874007
>I can't buy puts for Anycolor on robinhood
fuck me

History is repeating itself, even down to using talents as a shield

>>68870628
Christmas isn't a national holiday in Japan you dumb fuck

>>68873887
AkioAIR closed down though, right??

>>68873656
Gura wiçç disappear for 6 months again after collecting v-day money

>>68873656
wheres the gura stream?

>>68873146
That's almost believable, because I can't imagine how any of the talent actually thought this was the best course of action to take.

>>68873102
LMAO

>>68872692
To be fair, I do recall that Kronii was venting about her manager took like a whole day to reply to her about her cover permission
Though that cover was released around 2022, and she only talked about it recently.

Selen will be the new Rushia, she will turn out to be completely menhera with fans that support her despite all the evidence.

>>68870258
She mentioned on the first doki stream her old manager being Japanese and her new one Canadian I think

>>68869346
>Management ghosts her for nearly a year over the MV progress
>Exclude literally all of that
>All Doki has to do is drop seventeen pages of messages ignored by management who were too busy polishing stolen play buttons to demolish Niji
They just put the ball on the tee for her just like that. Not a single thought in their empty head.

>>68873341
Japanese company prease understrand. Ain't the first time something like this happened.

>>68870741
Like this anon said, JP companies using their talents as a shield and getting surprised that it doesn't work the way they think it does.

>>68873868
Scarle and Aia are too low on the totem pole to matter.

I assume everyone Illuna and beyond simply is not involved.

Except maybe Kyo because of the Enna's bestie shit.

>>68874190
>hes not a member

>>68872692
>permission for stuff they dont even own
Niji keeps the avatars

>>68874001
>But in the end this will damage NijiEN image beyond repair, Selen will go broke.
This is the likely outcome. Doki unironically thought she could damage their reputation without any repercussion. Nijisanji deserves it, but if she thought there would be no consequences, shes retarded.

>>68873480
They were never going to approve it

>>68873842
Correct. If JP management issues an apology, it means they admit they lost. If Selen really does have receipts though, she'll settle. Easy fucking money, way less stress and work.

>>68874182

>>68872841
>>68872281
The official channel even has more subs than Elira, or at least it does now. All this does is imply that NijiEN has no fucking staff to take care of this shit and the streamers came up with this shambles.

>>68870211
Kind of, there's a reason shit like MVs get delayed so long. But, they are less likely to throw their talents under the bus.

>>68873849
This will not go to trial. I will be surprised if we even get to depositions. would be funny though.

they shoulda hired white managers, I would've got back to Selen within hours and this whole PR disaster could've been avoided
>b-but real human managers would cost more money in wages
it would cost less than the amount of money this entire debacle is bleeding

>>68873046
Didn’t you watch the stream? He just did that.

>>68870529
lel

>>68873635
Except I know it's true. Because after Nina's graduation, Anycolor released stickers for a bunch of EN livers, including Nina, and they made a statement saying that they got the OK from Nina for her to be included.
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/n4ari5xdjguu
>*In accordance with Nina Kosaka's desire, the "Perk Random Sticker" will feature her version even after her graduation.
So yes, it is true, the livers do get a say in their character's use even after they've graduated.

>>68874001
she doesn't need to win.
just going to court will open up Niji like nothing else

>>68873014
Safe bet that same one is also the one power tripping on Selen over literally any and everything.

>>68874137
Doki was even willing to leave it all in the past and look forward
Such a shame

>>68873480
>37 hours
>all IPs included in the video already belong to Nijisanjo
>music cover perms attained a YEAR AND A HALF AGO
What's the deal with treating one of their most popular female EN streamers like this?

>>68873149
That's completely backwards to how reality works, people at the bottom will always have the least respect for the company, it's as you rise more that you become less reactionary. Not because you think the company is good but because you know you are not and have made many of the same mistakes on a smaller scale and are friends with many people high up in the company. Once you work somewhere, you realize you can't blame things on this "faceless" non-existent corporation most of the time and it's specific people you hate while you may love other people in the exact same position as them elsewhere in the company. The faceless aspects of a company are precisely the ones you don't interact with in the day-to-day that normally don't directly affect you like lawyers for example.

>>68872554
LOL Nijisanji use their talents like the Taliban uses their own citizens

When is Riku going to bombo a building?

>>68874144
You genuinely can't, their entire reputation is damaged in the west after tonight. Any prospective indies or even thriving indies that wanted to collab after this are probably looking at this stream and are thinking
>Fuck that, I'm not going to be part of this company anymore. There's now a risk of getting sued and having your "friends" throw you under the bus.

Watch this become mainstream news next to articles about the geriatric old men running for President

>>68873869
Vox and Ike are they're most popular male EN talents with SOMETHING resembling good will. Both have always been on good terms with her so Them being part of the statement is an attempt to make it sound more credible while trying to damage in the process

>>68873938
Selen telling people to reupload it was a bad move. It is theft since she was part of a company. But Niji heavily over-reacted to a simple disciplinary move.

>>68873748
>yet
don't challenge them pls

Can someone explain to me what happun?
I don't want to go on a niji's channel to watch this cluster fuck but alot of anons are saying Niji just committed a felony and while they've already stated that they broke Canadian worker's rights laws, I just want to know how fucked this is now.

>>68874007
>impact will be negligible
Wonder how Japan feels right now.

>>68870352
Sorry virgins I was busy with Nijisanji ;)

>>68873656
Cheers, fellow holochad

>>68872984
>watch out or we'll give you a 126k comeback stream
yeah, very powerful rrat

>>68872186
kek

>>68874140
You can show me ideas, concepts and partial progress, but I'm not giving it an ok to upload/distribute without seeing the final finished product, its just common sense. You have to be a retarded neet to not understand this.

>>68874429
>You genuinely can't, their entire reputation is damaged in the west after tonight.
Let's not be hyperbolic.

>>68873938
Are you saying that Selen would have been perfectly okay being terminated or are you saying she was okay doing something that should have gotten her terminated just as long as they thanked her for it and let her stay?

>>68869346
gib qrd

>>68873587
Their treatment of being an incompetently run shitfest that Selen was in the right to leave, which then tried to defame her? Don't get me wrong, Selen did technically do wrong. She did the equivalent of jaywalking. Niji then responded with nukes. There is no world in which Niji comes out of this looking better than Doki.

>>68873592
>not even sisters are safe from becoming antis
damn

>>68874464
They leaked Doki’s medical history.

>>68873812
niji could learn a thing or two with how well WWE made people shut up about the vinnie mac allegations

>>68872427
Damn son McDonalds hired you?

>>68874464
It's confirmed that they shared Selen's confidential court docs with their livers

>>68873480
Either genuinely retarded or active rebellion against protocol. Her insistence to spread the video leans towards the latter.

>>68872705
I’m still giving her the benefit of the doubt of being a useful idiot, inexperienced with corporate politics

>>68874001
Anon you may want to watch the redebut again or at least the statement

>>68873736
Why wouldn't he, it's a business expense.

>>68872146

>>68874464
The real 7th trumpet, NijiEN had opportunity to heal after Doki disabled the situation but they cant just help themselves

>>68874606
>Let's not be hyperbolic.
mostly damaged

>>68874464
They leaked Lawyer to Lawyer documents to the talents.

JGB, holy shit
Also why did they not use picrel for that? Instead of her supposed "dragon sister" on her own channel? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

>>68873480
>management screwed over the planned Christmas release date by responding very late
>somehow it's Selen's fault
I know they don't celebrate Christmas in India but holy fuck

>>68873592
THE FINAL YAB LETS GOOOO

>>68874079
I think there's overlap between vt and literally every fandom as the need for an oshi is universal

>>68870211
Cover got really close but a combination of proper communication and patience on the talent's part panned out very well.

>>68873463
Outsourced to India just like their EN management.

>>68872354
Kino

>>68874606
Where do you think we are?

>>68874388
True, anything shown in dscovery is not likely to paint niji talents or it's company in a good light. Though that sword cuts two ways. Their lawyer will be aware of the fact dokibird is an online content creator and will focus his efforts on making her look bad in the public eye.

>>68871155
>Disclosed a document with sensitive medical information to their talents
Are their lawyers retarded?

>>68874182
You know gura makes more by not streaming, right?

Can you guys fucking imagine?
We thought Coco and chammers yab was the yab to end all yabs, and here we are
We are somehow in even worse state right now.

>>68872841
>RRAT TIME: Elira was on her way out, NIJI tells her "Hold on there! We need you to do something for us before you go or you get the Selen treatment."
what's elira's incentive to agree with that? she's on her way out so she might as well ruin her image first?

>>68874274
Nope

>>68874072
>nijisanji not spending money to have local managers
>nijisanji spending money on lawyers when they can buy more yachts

HA HA HA! LMAO