/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

lmao, not as long as froot is still in

>>69320321
I've always thought they were fine though?

>>69320321
I only know kson and rushia, who are both whores, and now there's a dude so it just looks like a whore company and therefore not good

Ironically like half of them are villain coded

>>69320401
that dude is a MASSIVE homosexual

>>69320321
shut the fuck up faggot

Mouse is a mother to a loving daughter, you don't get more good than that

>>69320321
Fuck VWhorejo for killing Pika. HENYA IS A SLUT

>>69320321
>froot
>rushia
>kshit
Lmao no

>>69320483
Yeah I'm guessing he's the "totally harmless gay friend" who's secretly banging the girls in private.

>>69320560
Pika was already planning on graduating, and Henya is ONLY a slut for Matara.

>>69320321
when they stopped being unique or edgy, and settled on being the twitch knockoff version of hololive just kidding they're actually more similar to nijien than holo

>>69320401
>, and now there's a dude
Zentroon has been in that nigger company for a while.
I don't know how brainwashed you are to not realize it.

There is blood on this company,s hands. They iterally had a stream raining money so the CIA could supply Ukrainian Nazis with more weapons so they can counting killing children.

>>69320709
It's slowly becoming the niji reject company

>>69320785
uhhh based?

>>69320321
the worst part of this drama is the constant small corpo shilling, holy fuck shit the fuck up. Nobody is going to change their opinion about your literal who whores.

>>69320321
In 2022 sometime after Sana graduated.

>>69320321
I have some bad news for you.

I didn't. They stopped with the audition formalities and it turned into a vtuber retirement home for other corpos.

>>69324027
You must love nijisanji then it's all poached 2views

>>69320321
>good guys
Did you completely memory hole the nux debacle? Or when scammers were pretending to be vshojo scouts and scammed people and vshojo said nothing to warn people about it and just let it happen even though they knew for a year? Or froot literally sicking the tranny squad on one of her coworkers? Or how foot never donated that charity money? Or how nyanners literally bullied everyone into hating nux because she got triggered?
Really?
You forgot all that shit?

Can't wait for this to turn around again when Kyo joins in 2 weeks and everyone has to endure his shitty wigger ass

>>69324165
imagine defending nux at any point but especially in the past few months

>>69324325
Who's defending him? What they did is what's at fault here. I know you are a tribalist chink vox menhera but when someone does something wrong you can point that out without glorifying the victim you disgusting bottle glasses wearing yellow slant eye.

>>69320785
>There is blood on this company,s hands. They iterally had a stream raining money so the CIA could supply Ukrainian Nazis with more weapons so they can counting killing children.
BASED

>>69320321
>silence about selen being bullied and harrassed

>>69320321
>Watching those fleshtuber e-whores from that shitty twitch corpo
No way in hell.

>>69320321
I primarily watch Hololive for their talents, but as a corporation, VShojo is superior to everyone else.
I can't remember who revealed their contract details because it was a long time ago, but I think it was ironmouse or Nyanners. During that stream, she basically said this:
>They get to keep income from superchats (or whatever it's called on Twitch).
>They keep their IP, so they can leave at any time with their channels intact.
>VShojo takes a cut from merch, BUT they can organize their own merch as well.
>The company basically tries to stay out of their talents way, so you can be a literal whore or a saint if you choose to.
>For better or for worse, VShojo members can also do whatever they please with their Live2D or 3D models, so a new set of clothes every few months or 3D only a couple of months after debut is not out of question.
The same conditions seem to apply to new hirees as well, so Kson, Nazuna, Henya, and Kuro aren't some 2nd class citizens because they simply joined later.
In comparison to VShojo, Nijisanji contract is borderline slavery, and Hololive is barely any better than Niji just because they offer decent merch cuts.

>>69324165
>You forgot all that shit?
Yes I have the attention span of a goldfish

>>69324165
>Did you completely memory hole the nux debacle?
the only thing vshojo did wrong as apologizing to nux, he deserved worse.
>Or when scammers were pretending to be vshojo scouts
that was the nux debacle
>Or froot literally sicking the tranny squad on one of her coworkers?
that never happened
>Or how foot never donated that charity money?
everyone told her not to donate also she never collected any money from anyone. also this is the origin of the above rrat you posted the same thing twice
>Or how nyanners literally bullied everyone into hating nux
this is the nux debacle again

your whole paragraph is defending nux who fucked with the cops and froot for being sad a trans kid got murdered.

>>69324325
You fat twitter cunt, that was the only time Nux was actually in the right, now fuck off

>>69320483
>kuro is a MASSIVE homosexual
direct quote from himself:
>I'll make sure to fuck your oshi because you never will

>>69320321
Never. Just cause Niji is under fire right now doesn't mean vshitjo still isn't utter dogshit with dogshit whore 'talents'

>>69324699
>I'll make sure to fuck your oshi because you never will
Have you seen his face reveal he isn't fuck anyone

>>69324596
Now you're denyning facts and making excuses. You vshojofags are no better than nijifags.

>>69324803
what facts

>>69324596
>UHHH FORGET ABOUT THE NUX THING!!!! IT DOESNT MATTER!!!!
Lmao

>>69324803
>no argument
kek

>>69324699
I prefer the chocolate ass quote over that one but sure.

>>69320321
more like just neutral
From what I hear the management is nice though

>>69324782
>face reveal
Another reason why I can't stand the ""chubbas"" from that corpo

>>69324881
nux alerted the swatter to the investigation against him in order to make a shitty youtube video about how he tried to catch him himself and failed

>>69320405
>monster girls
unlike other vtubers the monster is on the outside

>>69324699
this sounds like a joke that rebecca made a youtube video about and then spammed it and seethed for a year over

>>69324525
This looks like a bunch of PR speak. Something I'd expect from a paid shill.

>>69325085
you are talking to rebecca

>>69320576
>rushia

>>69324165
For me the cherry on top was Zentreya reply, after all that shit happened; "maybe we shouldn't have done that.." referring to Nux witch hunt.

>>69325012
Vshojo knew about the scammers for over a year and did nothing. They warned nobody about it. They didn't help the people being scammed either and just left them on read. Nux was absolutely right to make that video about vshojo being retarded because they were. Seethe and cope troon.

>>69320321
>Still has Froot
>Vei, Nyanners, Silvervale left due to contract issues
hmmm

>>69324833
>>69324888
Vshojokeks and their denialposts will never be not funny.

>>69320709
They are pretty unique in terms of character, business model and design.

>>69320785
thats some magical far reaching magical rrat if i ever saw one

>>69325166
can you provide evidence that they knew and did nothing?

>>69323951
>unironic zionist

>>69325012
Vshojo would have rather other people get fucked over by the doxxer than admit they were handling the situation like retards

>>69325238
Watch the video tranny.

funny how they always out themselves as nuxoids
makes sense why phasefags and numberfags would like him

>>69325207
if its funny then why do you seethe everytime?

>>69325207
you forgot to post those facts

>>69324888
>n-n-no a-a-a-a-agument
Now say that without crying like a bitch

>>69324515
Fauna is a Haruka ripoff

>>69320321
kys spic

>>69325319
>still no argument

>>69325126
it's still true and it's not that impressive unless you discovered streaming and content creaation business with Japanese corpo vtubers.

>>69325287
i saw nux's receipts where he confirmed vshojo was working with a cybersecurity firm on the issue doesn't that go against your narrative? does nux's video contradict nux's twitter posts? do i believe nux or nux on this matter? where did you get your information from?

>>69324765
unironically I know more whores in other corpos than vshojo

>>69325238
They wouldn't cry about muh safety and the investigation being omg ruined if they actually cared about warning other people about what the doxxer was up to retard, now go self harm and post about it on twitter

>>69320321
They were always good, /vt/ is just schizo.

>>69320321
When you killed yourself.

>>69325461
what did the doxxer even do

>BUT FROOT
>BUT MOUSE
>BUT ..
Unless you're a doxxfaggot anything anon say negatively about Vshojo has nothing to do with vtubing or /vt/ related topics.
And that's why Vshojo will always win in /vt/

>>69325427
Working with a cybersecurity firm for around 4 months. They were alerted someone was pretending to be them for almost 12 months. Watch the video you fucking moron.

>>69325302
>denies facts that were posted previously
>gets called out but replies with a "no argument"
>where is muh factos??
Every time.

>>69325510
Technically the tribal monkey seethe over ex-holoniji talents is /vt/ related

>>69325427
Wasn't the cybersecurity firm they were working with like one guy who told them they should make a public announcement that a scammer was around and nyanners overruled him and told him they weren't going to do that lmao?

>>69325378
>vshojotranny mindbroken
Kek

>>69320321
Always were for me.

To debunk some claims
> Nux drama
Wasnt into vtubing at that time and didnt dig into it, but i am a person who believe that people can learn from their mistake and move on. Except Nijisanji, fuck them.
> Vei, Nyan, Silver exodus
Well, first of, i think Silver in the wrong here, not about wizard game, but about shitting on her coworkers and company. And whatever was about contracts looks like they fixed it.
I dont remember any other big yabs and just enjoying their content.

The only people I like and watch from Vshojo are Zentreya, GEEGA, Henya, Haruka, and Kson, but that is only casually (except for Zen I'm a big fan) other than that it's alright for a corpo I guess or whatever.

>>69325488
Email scam. People dickriding Vshojo think warning people about this would ruin everything and result in the dude never being caught. They'd rather have a Scooby-Doo trap of just waiting in hiding for the perp to show up in the act instead of just fucking warning people like you should do in that situation

>>69325527
you said they did nothing then said they were working with a cybersecurity firm. you contradicted your own argument.
>>69325531
facts require evidence.

>>69325467
What makes you think vshojofaggots aren't?

>>69325625
>cybersecurity firm
It wasn't a firm it was one guy lmao. And they "worked with him" for 4 months where they did nothing and rejected all his advice. Worse still they sat on this for 1 year! Completely ignored the victims and refused to warn anyone else while the scammers continued to scam other people! How do you not get this you retarded fat lipped nigger?

>>69324165
>Tried to make a list
>It's all about 2021 Nux shit
Sorry your career nosedived Nux. Not really tho.
Honestly going after Nux is when I knew they were the good guys.

>>69325619
the scammer didn't actually do anything other than trick a 1view into putting "vshojo" in his twitter profile so why was a warning necessary? it didn't interrupt the actual auditions.

>>69325683
You're definitely retarded. The phishing scam lasted 10 days and there was one victim from outside vshojo.

>>69325625
The other anon posted evidenct but you just keep denying them like a total bootlicker.

Face it retard, Vshojoke is a total joke no matter how much you try to hype them up. No amount of bootlicking is going to help you.

>>69320321
If it anything they're better than nishitsanji and /pol/ connect obviously

>>69325747
>10 days
Oh no you're coping hard.

>>69325751
nobody posted any evidence. some guy posted a rrat, that is not evidence.

>>69325687
Yeah and I bet you enjoyed sucking pedo dick and clapping when Froot wanted to donate to a bunch of human traffickers. You tribal troons are the worst

>>69325747
>Still denying facts and making excuses
You truly are a shameless bootlicker.

>>69325776
>>69325848
can you guys provide proof that the scammer did anything? in this thread please not the next one.

>>69325328
>Haruka
Who?

niggas are still goin on about nux after 2 years have passed kek
everyones moved on, even nux has, get over it

>>69325776
So you think the audition phishing scam started 10 months before the auditions?

>>69325879
Why are you sucking up to the scammer so hard? Something smells fishy...

if only the adulterer left

>>69325718
Because that's why they made a whole shitshow about Nux ruining their investigation and jeapordizing their safety right? Because they "knew" it was just to target only 1 person and that the dude had enough giggles after about a week? Retard shilling for Vshoujo will now ignore them and what they said to defend them. Doesn't get more mentally ill than that

>>69325930
That's how applications work.

>>69326005
>People applied to a company there was no way to apply to
...

>>69326070
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1428762581917908995

>>69326001
>Vshoujo

>>69326001
his goal was to fuck with nyan mostly

>>69326118
are you fucking blind?

>>69325683
>they sat on this for 1 year
They hadn't even existed a year. Make your fanfics a little more believable.

>>69326172
You're moving the goalpost

>>69326118
There are not 10 months between August 2021 and October 2021

>>69326127
You also forgot
>jeapordizing
Now go slice your fat hamlegs while you seethe

All this vWhoreShojo deekriding is pissing me off. I makes me wish the corpo gets caught up in a big yab so the annoying shills shut the fuck up for a while

>>69326243
That's right sister I hope their livers get in a huge yab maybe during a zatsudan I would akasupa if that happened

>>69320321
I hate whores.
And I hate them killing pikame.
But they gave her and kson a home so the owners I have no issue with. I just hate their fans and the majority of people in it.

>>69326243
holy seethe

>>69325818
/vt/ ?

>>69325930
This is from the Vhosjo cope reply to Nux's video lmao! HAHAHAHAHA!

>>69326243
calm down sister

>>69325886
>newfag
we already know

>>69326243
>implying its vsj fags making these bait threads
sure anon kek

>>69326243
You go niji-sister!

>>69320785
back to >>>/pol/ schizo

>>69326243
What big yab? Like vox acuma being pedo?

>>69326394
he is mindbroken at the first sight of facts in a bait thread

>>69326452
You gonna ask me to believe Enna and Vox next tranny?

>>69326291
I love how you vshojotroons automatically assumes everyone who says anything bad about your precious whore corpo is a goddamn "sister". You faggots are just as delusional as those trash eaters.

That said, fuck Luxikeks and fuck sisturds.

>>69326452
>he
It's a fat female tourist from twitter, same retarded 'gotcha' attempts and arguing style

>>69326507
>>69326538
Nijiseethe

once holofags started dumping on niji like they haven't done the exact same shit

>>69326538
not just sisters, phase fags, liggers and holokeks also seethe about vshojo for no apparent reason.

>>69326436
So it's Nijiturds pretending to be Vshojobbers?

>>69326607
no shit dude its a bait thread

Vshojokeks posts sound exactly like nijisister posts. Thank fuck vshojo exists to contain all that radioactive trash after niji is done dying

>>69326578
Why would I seethe about something I don't give a fuck about? Retard.

>>69326607
If you can get the op image off a 2 second google search, then it's usually a bait thread anon

>>69325258
based

>>69326538
I've been called a nijifag for 3 years despite never watching even a clip of them. Get used to it nerd.

>>69326868
holotards are dumb enough to think it's either them or niji

>>69326928
so this was about seething at hololive lmao

>>69326962
Schizos can't help but reveal themselves and their motives after trying to bait for too long. Too retarded and emotionally stunted

>>69326538
ok nijisis

>>69326962
So that's what going on? Well, in that case I have a message for OP...

>>69327090
Your bait is negligible, imbecile.

>>69320321
>Good guys
>Nazuna
>Froot
>Kuro
rumao, these tourists/flaseflagers know no shit

>>69327405
>Nazuna

>>69326962
They got called out and immediately gave up kek. Feels good being a holochad, enjoy your niji scraps "shojo"keks

>>69327405
idk if you ask me the only shitty one was silvervale

>>69320354
Every village needs an idiot.

>>69327735
didn't she btfo the trannies seething about hogwarts legacy

>>69327647
I didn't make this thread I just entered it to talk shit because holofags are always in vshojo bait threads

>>69327813
considering vshojo didn't renew her contract, i'd say it's the other way around

>>69327813
No she cried that people tweeted that they didn't like her than she was subjected to a shitty game and asmonbald

>>69327814
rent free!

>>69327814
>actually responding
Embarrassing, go back to being bullied by holofans on twitter cuck

>>69327953
>cuck
someone's projecting

>>69327895
You don't say that to a person's form of entertainment. "I like video games" "haha games live rent free in your head" that doesn't make any sense
>>69327953
I don't use that

>>69328043
most holotards are esl parrots that just say whatever they see other people saying.

>>69327995
>"no please you don't understand it wasn't me I didn't post it you gotta believe me I would never make a thread you don't understand its all the holotards fault"
Legitimate wimp behavior, you reek of being a little fag seething about being bullied. Cuck.

>>69327405
What did Kuro do?

lmao still seething at hololive completely unprompted

>>69320321
>males in vSHOJO

>>69328106
You made this thread and now you're nijiseething that you got caught

>>69328139
Kuro isn't enough of a man for anyone to care.

do the bvtm monkeys not get bored of having this exact thread every day?

>>69320321
>flesh streamer, a streamer who streams less than gura did, cunt that wants to mutilate children, pity baiter, and two people who were most likely involved in the harassment of selen
Good guys I'm sure...

>SEA hours
>uncontrollable seething at le Twitch whores
Just say you're mad your data plan doesn't cover them already

>>69328139
>chicken nuggets in BURGER king

>>69328276
>cunt that wants to mutilate children

isn't it your bedtime. i know it's pretty late in manila

>>69328208
>Maybe if I accuse him of making the thread it will work
Gotta do better than just no (You). I'm sorry a fat dude in a Gura shirt diddled you and now you mald about Hololive everyday

>>69328276
But enough about hololive

>>69328276
Selen's the one who bullied Mysta lmao

She told him she hopes he dies
https://youtu.be/E8Hnm3DgFzo?t=2333

She slept with his wife and rubbed it in his face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahdz73-P28g

She made fun of his size down there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1NmB2BoH9E

She deceived him into doing something that he finds terrifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op0kGqhcZ88

She almost gave him a heart attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoYzmq7VSMY

>>69328276
>less than gura did
holotards always try to make it about themselves

>>69328469
literally no one with sanity points above 1 think nina or mysta were involved in any way

>>69328448
I have been doing this since before gura existed, you need a better rrat

>>69328513
That's why the roach is still talking with kyo, yep. You know, one of the clique. That bullied Selen.

>>69328551
>jokes on you I've always been malding
Okay you got me

>>69328674
You're just proving my point further

>>69320321
your mother should join this whore's company too

maybe mouse wouldn't need to use bots and embeds if you cared more about watching her instead of getting endlessly shat on here

>>69328909
Ah the mouse rrats, initiating protocol pink donut. Silverfags have entered the building

>>69328909
holobot deflection

I wonder if nijisisters are preemptively shilling vshojo because they know all the dregs are going to end up there

>>69328909
Oh boy IMschizo is back!

>>69328909
>a person sneezes in antartica
>mousespergs: god dammit mouse

>>69320321
>Nazuna in the very center

>>69320321
It got much better in 2023 since Henya joined. She saved the corp and she's being as cute as always. Zen, Mata, Kuro and Froot's streams are kino. Patiently waiting for NotMika and NotPomu redebut.

>>69331034
contractually

>>69331104
NotPomy redebuting would just prove they’re siding with Niji over Doki

>>69331104
more like henya got worse after joining, literally every single person retiring to vshojo is doing worse content than before

>>69320321
I'm just dropping in and haven't read any of this thread, but I really like those thighs

>>69331310
>went from a sometimes sub 500 viewer vtuber to someone always having over 5k

yeah much worse anon

>>69331238
Vshojo doesn't owe Doki anything, much less an invitation that she may not even want so I don't see how that proves anything except for you trying way too hard to force this clique drama onto Vshojo.

>>69331238
tired of people acting like people who actively tried to leave nijisanji are somehow involved in this. they clearly weren't.

>>69331310
>6-8 hour streams five-six times a week
>a healthy mix of gameplay and chill react content while eating her lunch
>tons of collabs both within the company and with indes and different corpos
Not even going to numberfag, because someone was faster than me already. Looks fine to me.

>>69331104
It also helps the 3 biggest drama whores that were poisoning the brand fucked off all at once.

>>69332351
i mean honestly i didn't like any of the 3, but was nyanners really a drama whore?

>>69324325
You don't have to like Nux or even think he's anything more than human garbage to realize that VShojo were the fuckups here. This scenario is like being presented with 2 evil villains and then you go "The one who I like more is actually a saint because I don't like the other villain".

Retarded tribalist.

>>69332351
Nah, Nyanners wasn't one and she will never be replaced. Tons of great moments from 2020 to 2022 were created by her. Then she got tired of the scene and decided to quit.

>>69332850
Nah, but she likes to make spicy jokes, and didn't want to cause trouble for the others. That's why she left. Now both she and Aethel make jokes like VNUS and placing that curse on Nijisanji without worrying about causing trouble for their friends

>>69332850
>>69333396
>Forgetting Nyanners is the sole reason the whole fake hiring and doxing scandal exploded into a yab because she had to make it about herself and how she was the victim.

>>69333612
I mean I know the drama you're talking about but wtf did nyanners do wrong here? Genuinely don't understand your point

>>69333782
Nyanners whining and needing to portray herself as the victim is what caused vshojo to backtrack and throw nux under the bus, bringing attention to their own fuck ups, where if she kept her mouth shut, everyone would have come out looking relatively good.

>>69320354
fpbp

>>69333612
my rrat is that the nux drama is a big part on the list of reasons nyanners wanted out of the org. i'd like to think she knew she fucked up and her exiting would take some heat off the others, but sadly the part she played was just a footnote for catalogfags

>>69334198
Wait so nux ruined their investigation and you somehow are cleaning nyanners? You realize the things nux said actually damaged police work that was done right?

>>69334383
>Nyanners defense force is here
If Nyanners had kept her mouth shut, it wouldn't have mattered from the public perspective.
Plus, good luck getting the jurisdiction for BRs

>>69332051
It's just the typical sour grapes. Next they'll scream about how their silver medal Bijou is totally better

it's always funny, and concerning, seeing all the schizo "vshoujuo bad!!" posts. most of the shit they spew is either outright wrong or twisted so far into the realm of delusion. sad

>>69334309
She probably left because she thought she was bigger than vshojo and could do better solo.
While failing to realize that cuck market isn't that big.

>>69333612
I mean she literally was the victim and the reason it became public was some retard itt deciding it was a good idea to share it here

>>69325510
what a retard, all of them are openly political (the wrong kind)

>>69333612
well, she somewhat recently revealed she was swatted the month before all this happened, so she was probably already on edge.
not trying to say it's okay that she did it, but it makes sense why.

>>69334519
>Nux posts information harming a police investigation
>God dammit nyanners you're such a drama queen

Anons actually think like this?

>>69320321
What happened to Nux??????

What happened to wizard game??????


Why are Vwhore fan so Fucking retard????

>>69335640
nux is retarded
silver is retarded
vshojo is retarded
i'm retarded
you're retarded.
/thread

>>69335640
>reddit space fag
go back

>>69335471
>harming a police investigation
Hambeast talking point. Unless the investigation required the doxxer to make another attempt and catch him in the act, nothing in the Nux video would have "ruined" the investigation by warning people what was going on, and they sure as hell wouldn't apologize to him after the fact.

>>69320321
Vshojo is only slightly better than NijiEN, in the sense that one is solid shit vs. liquid shit.

>>69320709
They were never the bad guys, they just had whores that soured the entire company by being in it. The worst ones left thankfully, so now I'm just neutral about them.

>>69336115 (me)
didn't mean to reply

>>69335640
Not beating the brown allegations

>>69336024
Vshojo is vastly better than Nijisanji and honestly most other vtuber orgs.

>>69335240
Quite the opposite, by the looks of it. She wanted to be more low effort and not get involved in events or do weekly business meetings. A soft retirement of sorts

Why are there two guys in v(((shojo)))?

>>69320321
>good guys
Anon you need to come up with better bait than this, this isn't going to cut it.

>>69324525
All of these shilling only tell me that Vshojo offer nothing while taking cut from merch, the IP ownership thing is useless when it's not theirs to begin, they are basically glorified manager/middleman also with the same business model it seems that Mythic beat them since Nyanners and Veibae left for better contract, this business model are just leeching because they give nothing and if you're not someone with some clout then you're going nowhere while Hololive invest on their talent they able to provide real support and networking that even new debuts or less popular member can still have 3D stuffs and sponsors heck even for Holostars

>>69336370
Why does Burger King offer chicken nuggets?
Are they stupid?

when they casually dumped Nyan for brand disruption showing actual business-like behavior instead of clique horseshit niji behavior, they even handled it diplomatically and still have a friend breaking all asian behavioral conventions in a way I absolutely knew was possible and was waiting on seeing

>froot
drama and feels curiously contained to /k/ommandos, also I'm not a viewer. She's not too bad when you keep in mind that her country's moral systems are currently in the vote-importing toilet and any good behavior is entirely her own doing and largely without social reward.

>nyan hurt ur feels
Yes, but by choosing a scumbag steve wigger destroying any notion that she will ever be mentally okay because of symbolic meanings within that choice. It's like a Hindi hearing "Ravanna is sexy" aka "ur just mad at satan cause he's cooler than u". This belief in turn reminds me that I'm mature, I'm over 35 and should be working generally causing me to turn off the stream and work.

>>69336644
Wow did ChatGPT just give up there?

>>69320321
I went the other way. Early on I bought into the narrative of Ironmouse being Vtuber Jesus. The Nux backstab and attempt at public dragging was some truly Nijisanii level snake shit. Dude was really lucky he kept receipts or they'd still be trying to destroy him.

>>69335640
>Nux
2+ years passed
Nyanners left
But Vshojo still bad
Is current Hololive also bad because Coco graduation?

>>69336370
Because its shojo not shoujo.

who?

>>69320321
Who's that white haired one in the middle?

>>69338713
Henya desu

>>69336644
Fuck i should have saved that Froot clip.
Anyways, no, Vshojo invest in talents, they provide monthly allowance for personal projects. Also they organising concerts, like recent Candy Pop Explosiion.

>>69338713
My wifi

>>69338857
Can't say CPE was recent. But they do help out with management stuff. If the talents were paying for nothing, they wouldn't have a reason to stick around.

>>69320321
They're unironically doing better and probably the most influential vtuber corpo after hololive at this moment. Also thanks to nijien big fuck up

>>69320785
Based and fuck of to /pol/

>>69339037
They're a pretty distant second, but fuck it I'll take it

>>69339226
Considering VShojo has a fraction of Cover's budget, it's quite impressive

>>69320321
Never

>>69325081
Cope

>>69320321
if they were the good guys then why did half their members leave?

>>69339081
learn to speak, redditor

>>69342397
Consider learning to count

>>69320321
Absolutely no one in that company is invested in pushing virtual artistry anywhere.
They are just sitting on their asses doing react content and yearly subathons.

>>69320785
before or after matara?

>>69344248
You picked a bad time for this particular bait.

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1757873509756207539

>>69324525
They basically take merch money and do nothing for the members.

>>69338857
>Candy Pop Explosion
That was a while ago and considering the quality it was a waste of money.

>>69320785
>/leftypol/ is out again.
Go back to your containment board to suck Putin's cock, you cockroach.

>>69344841
that statement is also wrong, lacks context, they take money from merch, the merch Vshojo staff helps to create and organize. If Vshojo member wants she/he can make merch independently and then Vshojo takes nothing out of it, same rule applies to sponsors.

>>69320785
There are no members of vshojo openly affiliated with CIA or who can be linked to deliveries of blood money to overseas dictatorships. It is in your best interest to stop looking into this topic. Any further inquiries to Geega's prior employment will be met with legal action. Thank you for your time.

>>69344995
hey look its the guy who saw a gif from twitter and got mad

>>69320321
Don't they interact with mythic?

>>69320321
Nope. Not until froot is gone.

>>69345246
>he doesn't know

>>69345486
I mean, Shylily raids ironmouse once in a while, but that's about it

>>69338857
>they provide monthly allowance for personal projects. Also they organising concerts
So same as Hololive? It might more maybe, but I don't know why people think Hololive doesn't pay into projects and forget that they get regular pay every 2 weeks as well? This shit was known for years?

>>69320321
nah you trippin faggot

>>69344995
>quality
considering it's their first big group concert I'd say it was fine
>waste of money
doubt it, they've probably made back what they spent already. otherwise they wouldn't have organized mouse's on the 29th

>>69344995
So Hololive first 3D concert was in perfect quality and without scuff?
Like come on it was their first attempt with this, we can be a little lenient, if next one will not improve than yes complaining about it will be correct.

>>69344841
But enough about Nijisanji

>>69345985
I mean members can and have done their own concerts. Mouse and Kson specifically do birthday concerts every year

>>69344248
>no one in that company is invested in pushing virtual artistry
saying this to the org which has a vtubers who change models every month to support artists.

>>69320576
I think OP wanted to make a point that the there's nothing wrong with the company itself

employees are just fucking up from time to time

>>69345658
hololive provide a monthly salary. it's different and it's not for projects.

>>69345658
Probably, i think Vshojo budget is smaller, cause Holo is bigger corpo. As for people who say that Hololive doesnt pay for personal projects thats Nijisisters trying to save their reputation from shithole.

>>69344532
>>69346386
They feel limited by vtubing and can't think of ways to work around their virtuality and throw the towel.
Their new talents are all doing RTAs to facereveals for no reason.
Holo is investing on a metaverse and leveraging their popularity to appear everywhere.
Phase is investing on AR tech
Niji is producing mix media and rebuying their stocks.
Vshoujo is... doing 3D concerts with Kanauru, sticking tablets to a stick and body part reveals as subathon goals.

>>69346809
i thought it was vrchat or mmd concerts?
did your phasemonkey discord change the flowchart?

>>69347156
I only watch a holojp member. I try to keep in touch with what others in the space are doing.

Will any vshoujo fan please tell me what are their prospects for the future of the medium?

>>69346582
They do both actually. Lamy has talked about it before.

>>69320321
They still have the absolute worst fanbase in all vtubing so no.
>but phase!
Hurts a lot when you put it like that, doesn't it.

>>69347156
>Phase is
I see

>>69347442
>vshoujo fan please tell me what are their prospects for the future
Generally VShojo is focused on streaming/streamer related stuff. Basically "How do we enable VTubers to do what streamers do".

So using tech to enable VTubers to do convention appearances, panels, streaming content, streaming tools, etc. Also of course typical VTuber stuff like 3D concerts. So I don't think they'll do anything flashy as a company, because they are not that much about the brand (they are in-between classical western agencies, that stay invisible, and the Japanese agencies that are about their brand)

This is a bit of a different approach than hololive, where it's more about creating a media mix to boost the franchise/IP. Even with things that might not necessarily translate into streaming content (obviously a game will, but the manga for example not really)

As far as VShojo concerts go. Kson and IronMouse use this studio (https://www.livecartoon.net/)) + a crew experts for camera, lights, etc.
Nazuna's 3d reveal looks like one of the studios holos used to use (also had the same framerate problems, some older holo 3D stuff had)
Don't know about the VShojo concert.

>>69348244
>They still have the absolute worst fanbase in all vtubing so no.
They didn't tell Sana that her dead dog is back in a superchat, so no.

>>69348957
>IronMouse
It was a stuntman, not her.

>>69349733
Yes anon. The studio hired the actress who played Ironmouse. Why were you retarded enough to think this was a gotcha. It's in the credits for the show.

>>69338312
>Vshojo post a public disclaimer stating that Nux didn't ask for permission to make the video (as if he was obliged but whatever)
>Turned out that not only he asked for permission but also he was green lighted as well. Proof included.
>Turned out that Vshojo PR team is a lying sack of corpo shit like all others
It's that simple. No need to go through metal gymnastics about investigations or whatnot.

>>69350261
>rewriting history

>>69350362
Just look it up. I'm not in the mood to spoon-feed retards on the internet.

>>69350647
I have read everything. Not my fault esl's and autists lack reading comprehension.

>>69350261
>he asked for permission and got the greenlight
Ah yes. The greenlight. The "please don't make content out of this situation" to which he replied "I'm making a video" green light. The "These people are doing this to be famous and making content out of it is giving them what they want" to which Nux replies "I know but it's going to make them look bad!" green light.

>>69351188
>>69350994

>>69351647
That's not a request to do it. That's a we can't stop you

>>69351798
I really need to do something with my life other than argue with retards.

>>69351983
Anon do you know nothing of how PR works? Nux came out with a big video publicizing his defeat of someone who was harassing vtubers from a specific company. VShojo's only move was to acknowledge it. If Nyan hadn't come out with the truth then this would have ended there because not revealing the details of the case was the priority. Please get some basic knowledge of how communications work then get back to me.

>>69351983
Why? We have to suffer it every time we engage with you.
At no point have they 'given him the green light', and if he, or you, genuinely believe that you have comprehension issues.
The entire conversation is someone patiently explaining to nux how they are an idiot without outright calling them an idiot. They clearly should've been more explicit.

>>69320785
the fact ukraine is run by a nazi regime thats has a jewish dictator makes leftists have a mental meltdown, nazis good when in ukraine
always cracks me up

>>69324325
2 bads dont make a good, nyanners and ironlung are psychopaths who only care about that $ flowing

>>69352509
Nyanners left VShojo a year ago bro

>>69352114
>>69352168
>Someone pretending being a corpo try to scam you
>You can't talk about it because it would be bad PR
Corpo shills should be killed on spot.

>>69352686
>group known for doxing and swatting is doing it for popularity and to become well known
>better make a Youtube video and shill them to my 2 million subs instead of keeping quiet and letting the investigation continue

>>69352686
>advised by law enforcement
>advised by cyber security professionals
nah this random drama faggot knows best
>>69352804
better also gloat and then have the doxx group dump on me for good measure

>>69352804
Ah right, the "investigation". Don't lie to yourself, nothing would ever come out of that. You had to be born yesterday to believe that.

>>69320321
When they rejected Dramabird and have barely commented on her drama.

>>69320321
A long time ago because they cause so much seethe /here/ without even doing anything

>>69353112
So you don't have an argument then. Just "nuh uh" because that's the only way that Nux comes out of this looking good lmao

>>69325886
the whore who suck the dick of a DM of their weaboo campain, Arcadum if i remmember. i mentioned he was a a fat man married and make those whores his bitches

>>69320321
>were the good guys all along?

>>69353344
Okay now say it again in English

>>69353205
It's not about Nux looking good. Nux was an absolute idiot.
It is about Vshojo going above and beyond to look good.

>>69320321
They were never 'good', at most just lawful evil or chaotic neutral. They actively dig on JP corpos and openly try to get people to disparage them and their situations only to then turn around and poach and scoop as many big-name JP-sourced talents as they can.

You'd be a fucking moron to trust that they have any direction or moral/ethical compass at all, their only direction is "dis person helb us make more moniez, yuo want job?? (ignores thousands of applications in giant trash bin)"

>>69353490
Nux had burned his bridges with VShojo before this point. Most of the talents outwardly hated him. That he would then do this it only makes sense that it would boil over into public statements. It's not professional, sure, but that's kinda the point of VShojo. They're not going to stop them from speaking their mind unless it's in a way that's damaging to the brand.

>>69353147
people have hated nijiEN here for years as well and that turned out to be 100% justified in every angle. not a good template to cope from IMO.

>>69353419
sorry, you are right. Well, they played Dungeons and Dragons and sleep with their dungeon master, put all in internet to finish destroying all the channels and projects he have. That enought english for you motherfucker

>>69353523
>making shit up
sasuga

>>69353523
>They actively dig on JP corpos
timestamp next thread?

>>69353585
Nux is idiot, indeed.
And Vshojo PR team a bunch of liars who does damage control by blaming everyone besides themselves.

>>69353760
It's still extremely bad English, but if you're just repeating what you said the first time then it's also incredibly wrong. Haruka was part of one of Arcadum's DND campaign, sure, but so were dozens of other people and she wasn't one of the people involved in his weird sex pest behavior and she certainly wasn't his girlfriend (he wasn't married or engaged despite telling people that all the time)

>>69353929
>talking shit about the whole 'graduations' thing
>has tried to 'prove' it's OK to have males, BFs etc on stream nonstop

a lot of the shit they do and say is like an act of rebelling against the gold standards for JP vtubing, making you want to see those standards as stupid or useless etc. gee I wonder why, maybe it's to enable themselves to be lazy shitters who won't get shamed for being camwhores etc because they'd rather try to force the audience to put up with their shit instead of improve themselves. again I wouldn't care much about this if they didn't clearly also go after people who were previously managed by JP corpos, they are trying to spin a narrative of "JPs bad, what you want is to be managed by twitch shitters!! le talent freedom!!!"

they cling onto some (objectively false) belief that ironmouse started the whole vtubing thing period and thus everyone needs to bow to her will when no, she didn't, and also she was a 2view nobody for years vtubing in the West and conveniently, vshojo and vtubing on twitch suddenly exploded in popularity within a couple weeks of holoEN debuting. they don't want to give credit to the fucking obvious fact if it wasn't for HoloJP and then HoloEN, not to mention Pikamee being the first JP-managed English speaker to get popular in the West? Their careers would likely be either a tiny fraction of successful as they are now or simply non-existent altogether because it wouldn't be seen as viable. They shit on the very thing that fucking makes them possible and then try to claim members of that for themselves and pretend "we did this!" - no you fucking bitches, you did not, you never did, all you did was lower the bar and bitch about shit you don't fucking understand and still do not.

it's been 3 years and I still don't see a valid reason from brownies why they hate Vshojo so much. The vtubers just do what the fuck they want to do on twitch and somehow they're getting hate from it lmao. Just say you hate them because they're not hololive and be done with it instead of this retarded mental gymnastics you're always presenting in these threads.

>>69354131
well, at last i know two languages faggot, but yeah you are right in half way. Remmember, Haruka actualy sleep with the guy, because he can be as creepy as you want but was her in her stupid letter that "accidentaly" comfirms she go to his house 8:30 pm to talk about her character, and if you remmember the campain, in his defense, was those whores who always start with the sexual harassment to every fucking npc

>>69354429
also forgot to add,
>is now actively trying to 'prove' it's OK to be a facecam streamer/fleshtuber all the time

they actively want the kudos and vibe of vtubing without actually-trying or caring about the vtubing part. they're garbage.

>>69354429
>>69354620
this just sounds like you're mad at some retarded shit you read on here

too long; didn't read. congrats on that, or sorry that happened to you

>>69354429
>>69354620
so you're delusional

>>69354539
vshojo as company itself is good, really good. The problem with vshojo are their talents. No matter how good is your busines model, in the end of the day, your corpo is only the iron mouse playground

>>69354750
I'm sorry your brain is too feeble to understand words, enjoy working at mcdonald's

>>69354795
looks like I hit a nerve.

>>69354855
all you did was admit you're too stupid to actually even be talking here. that's not my problem.

>>69354429
1. YWNBJ
2. Graduations are retarded
>>69354539
Becaues Vshojo is popular with multiple members having numbers that rival HoloEN's. They can ignore or push aside Niji or Phase or whoever the fuck else because they're all much smaller and comparatively irrelevant, but VShojo HAS to be bad. If VShojo's not bad then they have to admit that there's an alternative out there that is also very popular and doesn't ascribe to any of the same beliefs.

>>69353523
>>69354429
Vshojo are good and japanese corpos are bad.
There are no valid arguments for vtubers not keeping their IP after leaving their original group.
Vshojo members have been around long before hololive or any other vtubers for that matter.

>>69354782
>in the end of the day, your corpo is only the iron mouse playground
sounds like what a holodrone would say. Ironmouse can fucking die tomorrow and it still wouldn't reduce any of the talent's ccv. Ironlung literally has her own set of simps that don't watch any of the other members, it's not like you knew this anyway because you're literally a dumbass who thinks ironmouse is the only member of vshojo.

>>69324782
Not what I expected at all, but not as bad as you make him out to be either.

>>69354587
This sounds like it's entirely made up stuff or you're getting her confused with someone else anon because Haruka did none of that and I don't know what the fuck you mean by a letter.

>>69354931
Yeah, ofcourse retard, if you left someone with their model and do some shit, who you belive is the one who has to deal with the consecuences... Imagine Rushia do all shit with the name Rushia. Hololive would be fuck up

>I can't stand them because they show their faces! waaaa!
Holy shit, that's fucking hilarious. you don't even watch them. Why the fuck would you be this mad at them showing their faces?

>>69355211
do you want to go to disneyworld and see the mascots in suits take off the heads of their outfits? we don't fucking want to see that. you're some slackjawed tard if you do.

>>69355279
So you're saying you have the brainpower of an elementary schooler who can't handle that there's a person behind behind the costume.

>>69355279
you have to be 18 to post here you actual toddler

>>69355380
you're acting like people can't handle seeing a human face or something. no, we obviously can, it's just it looks stupid for a mascot to try to 'prove' something instead of play the character. vtubing is playing a character.

some people want to show their faces because they're fucking vain, and want validation being lusted over and told they're hot. they want it to be more about them than the character.

It's not hate, it's about fighting the shills who believe that certain corpos can't do no wrong, which isn't true. Just because something isn't the absolute worst doesn't mean that it's good. The bar is so low there days..

>>69355487
They're not mascots though. Maybe corpo vtubers are since they're literally filling a role made by a company, but VShojo and indies are being themselves.

>>69355558
that's semantics. vshojo represents itself as an entity/organization (while people also spuriously tried to claim it's 'not a corpo' for years too, remember that). why doesn't mouse facecam then if it doesn't matter. huh. fucking show us then.

>>69355630
Because she doesn't want to. Some people want to. Some people don't. VShojo doesn't discriminate, and most viewers don't either.

>>69355630
The point was that vshojo members are free to do as they wish while your fqvorite corpo tubers are fake and not allowed to be themselves.

>>69355742
the point I'm making is mouse is faker than most corpo girls and you're pretending she isn't. vshojo is hypocritical to the core in everything it does/says. hates JP management, but eagerly poaches JP-managed people because for some reason, wow they're really successful and make so much money, so now they want that without having to get their hands dirty doing the thing they supposedly hate so much, managing JP-style. they want to have their cake and eat it too and only morons cannot see that.

>>69355950
Mousey is not fake at all

>>69355950
>your brain on /vt/ rrats

>>69355950
Ironmouse is the most popular VShojo and she never once had JP management. For a while Vei and Nyanners were also on her level and neither of them had that same quality either. Zen is just under Mouse nowadays and has always been EN, and while Henya did have JP management at VOMS, it's such a small company that most people wouldn't even consider it one and it doesn't operate the same as Holo or Niji. JP style management didn't make EN Nijis or Holos popular. The brand attached to them did.

>>69320321
Vshojo existing is a good thing in that it's basically a safety net for big vtubers. We've seen how easy it is for vtubers to make a mistake and get terminated. As long as they have a friend in Vshojo they always have a way of coming back if things go wrong.

>>69356100
> JP style management didn't make EN Nijis or Holos popular
... and why is that brand famous? JP management designing and curating the content. talking with vshojo fans is like arguing with first graders.

>>69356217
Hololive is not popular because of anything japanese and especially not the management

>>69356122
And VShojo's existence motivates other corpos to treat their talents better...or at least, it's supposed to. Don't think NijiEN got the memo in time

>>69356217
>All the credit for the brand gaining popularity goes to the management!
t. middle manager

>>69356317
this post doesn't even merit a response but I just want to point at how fucking lmao stupid it is. you cannot be fucking serious dude. good joke.

>>69320321
>When did you come to the realization that they were the good guys all along?
I never did, because I never gave a fuck about anyone outside of Hololive, which made my life exponentially easier and happier, especially in this community. I remember watching a couple of Nyanners streams back when she was in VShojo though, so I'd guess that I've never seen them as the bad guys.

>>69320483
not with that body no

>>69320321
they became tolerable when they kicked out the three most problematic members but I still dont care too much to watch them

>>69357316
if froot and mel left then they'd be OK. not even great... just not awful. every day froot especially is there, I cannot even remotely take them seriously if any of them ever even imply anything about ethics/morality, much less who should do what in the vtubing space. they'll never have a soapbox to stand on without it and the podium being painted in clown colors.

coincidentally you'd be emptying the stable of basically all the old cast except for what, zen and IM. I'd hardly even call that vshojo anymore, more like New NijiEN-land + randos.

>>69325258
Nux is a zionist? Seriously?

>>69358246
>t. anthime

>>69358258
even his family members are on active duty.

>>69358348
you don't have to be ant to know that you don't want to be lectured by anyone who cheated on their spouse about ethics - nor, would you want to be lectured by that person's friend, who must know but doesn't seem to mind.

her presence poisons the well. it used to be that vshojo seemed completely utterly irredeemable while her, vei and nyanners were all in it, but if it's just froot left, it actually-looks almost doable now to bring its bar up from the bottom of the ocean. only slightly however, but it'd be an improvement where it previously looked genuinely impossible.

no idea who this froot bitch is but if she makes retards on this board this angry she must be pretty based I would think

>>69360175
>t. anthime

>>69360234
What's funny is her streams are comically inoffensive. She acts cute and dumb, makes gremlin noises and does art or Apex. Like, she doesn't even roast people or say anything provocative on stream