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From: >>/vt/thread/69804931#p69822980

>> No.69835809

>>69835162
In my opinion, most of NijiEN is too immature and dumb to write this well. It can only be Fulgur in my mind. Though, I don’t know much about Alban or Sonny to know if it could be them. Then again, this could be easily an elaborate larp

>> No.69835847

bad LARP

>> No.69836222

>>69835162
the lengths some schizos go to to larp is truly staggering. And anyone who believes this is a fucking retard. They put enough info in there that they could be identified by management if it was true, which would be NDA breach and getting the axe. A+ for effort though

>> No.69836345

reminder that schizos have been proven right lately, so at the very least this should be given serious though.

>> No.69836450

>>69836222
So why *did* no one get the axe for the previous leaks on twitter, here and on the doxx site?

>> No.69836675

>>69835162
Are we really making threads for obvious larps
Come on

>> No.69836803
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69836803

>>69835162
I believe

>> No.69836877

>>69836450
maybe they did?

>> No.69836940

This guy's rrats have all been pretty much confirmed, so I belieb

>> No.69837042

>>69836450
The only credible leaks I've seen are
>Krysis designs
could have been leaked by the 4th member when they bailed
>Nina and Mysta graduations
Could have been either of them, probably Mysta
>Luca leaks
All stuff shared with his ex-mod, including the stuff posted /here/ that she claimed not to post
>Selen discord messages
Leaked by one of her artists
Everything else "proven true" has been reasonable speculation based on information that was public at the time

>> No.69837289

>>69836675
Don't be scared, just enjoy it.

>> No.69837307

Can you please rearrange the pic so that the questions would be above answers? Right now it's very hard to read

>> No.69837502

>>69835162
Whoever made this image may want to look into fixing it, as the ''question section'' of post no. 69827064 doesn't match with its answer.

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>>69837042
I assume you're a newfag because NijiEN has been a leaky sieve since it's inception, partly because literally all of them post here.
See >>16936021 for the Noctyx design leaks

>> No.69837612

>>69835162
I think the wildest thing this leaker is insinuating is that notKyo is gonna attempt to talk with influencers to get their side out. I have no idea how they think he'll turn the consensus around.

>> No.69837664

>You cannot graduate on time
This is really interesting to me. Like what do they do? What kind of clause do they have where you cannot graduate when the contract ends? Where you need to wait 6 to 12 months before you stop? Contracts are only for 1 year, right?

>> No.69837666

>>69835162
If this is a just a LARPer, this is a masterclass level of LARPing. Someone this skilled would be near nation level propagandist level. On top of expanding organically from current rrats and adding to them, just enough unnecessary information is peppered in to add authenticity.
Or Occams Razor, it's an actual leaker, disgusted by what they've seen, from inside the company.

>> No.69837724

>>69835162
Are you new to 4chan? You didn't even line up the replies correctly, this shit is unreadable. Rangeban SEA.

>> No.69837751

>>69835809
I don't think that dude who faked his own death would grow enough conciousness to post things in such calm and collected matter. Alban also seems to be too much in love with what Niji gives him to drop it (his JP streams for example)

>> No.69837752

>>69837612
They tried it on 39daph and almost incriminated herself lol

>> No.69837779

>>69835162
In my opinion, I think this is fake and gay.

>> No.69837822
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69837822

>>69835162
If this is LARP then it's a rather boring one
Which leads me to believe that it's not a larp
But then again, the larper might have intended for me to think that

>> No.69837829 [SPOILER] 
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69837829

>LARP
>LARP
>LARP
They're afraid of the true Nijispy

>> No.69837890

>>69837612
I think people will see what happened with 39Daph and say "it's not my fight brother"

And rightly so.

From a pure business standpoint Niji is toxic

>> No.69837912

>>69835162
Someone go watch 10000 hours of nijisanji VODs to figure out who is saying "verboten" and "gestalt"

>> No.69837927

>>69837664
Regular thing in big corpos - notice period, in my country it's not unusual to have 3 month notice peried, I'm assuming that they can have clauses for when they can turn in their notice and what is the actuall notice period, not only the "2 weeks"

>> No.69837932

>>69837779
Uki approves of your message.

>> No.69837943

>>69837751
Nta, but this is precisely why I think it could be Alban. He sticks to his own lane. Interacts with JP as much as possible to have a valid excuse to avoid EN.

>> No.69837969

>>69837752
>Round 2
>39daft collab Interview with notKyo
>"Oh woe is me! she's insufferable and imposible to work with"
>it explodes in their face again

>> No.69838025

>>69837943
I can see that, but leaving Niji could also mean cutting ties with their JP side, which we can assume is far more obedient to their managment than western branch

>> No.69838065

>>69835162
>NDF coming out in full force to call it a LARP
That's how you know it's true.

>> No.69838121

>>69838065
So I can say whatever I want and samefag myself calling it a LARP and people will believe it?

>> No.69838153

>>69837943
TA again, also I don't recall Alban, who if I remember correctly, is American, using fancy, proper british words, like bomoan or verboten. I don't see him larming this much just to avoid being detected.

>> No.69838155

>>69835809
You're underestimating some of the girls

>> No.69838190

>>69838121
nice try

>> No.69838194

>>69837927
You also need to take into account that they are an entertainment company, if an organ wants to graduate next month but have an expo collab in 2 month, management will try to push the graduation back.

>> No.69838196

>>69837595
...so what are the rrats for this one? why would a member or a staff member leak it here

>> No.69838197

>>69838121
I saw the IP count go up with each new post calling it a larp, NDF.
You should have learned by now that you're not nearly as clever as you think you are.

>> No.69838224

>>69835162
There is no way anyone has taken the time out of their day to read all of this
Do you guys have lives or hobbies

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>>69838155
Which of the nijiEN girls could realistically pull off a tryhard verbose persona on the fly?

>> No.69838274

>>69837943
One of the posts by the insider mentioned Fulgur in third person, discarding him as the potential leaker, or maybe it's a way to hide his tracks. In the case that Fulgur isn't the insider, I think that Alban is the next likely person to be behind the leaks.

>> No.69838287

>>69838194
Didn't Mysta say something to the effect of him having to wait until all his planned collabs and merch was out to graduate?

>> No.69838340

>>69838121
newfag alert, doesn't know about the IP

>> No.69838382

>>69838224
>don't waste your time digging for the truth
Hi Enna!

>> No.69838399

>>69838196
All of NijiEN being here isn't a joke. It could have been any of them posting it as a laugh

>> No.69838520

>>69838268
meloco

>> No.69838553

>>69838224
it took me less than 4 mins to read it all, unlike the 6pages villainess script, that sent me to a therapist.

>> No.69838566

>>69838224
Enna, you should be planning streams instead of wasting your time reading this site...

>> No.69838570

stop noticing things

>> No.69838665

That literally doesn't bring anything new to the table, it only recycles the same claims that were already made about Elira being a manager while speculating at what happens behind the scenes and citing things we already knew were true like the Nina bullying.
Without a single screenshot or leak there's no way to ascertain whether its true.
t. NDF

If you're a leaker just drop the bomb already instead of pretending you don't know anything.

>> No.69838672

>>69838274
alban is one of the biggest nijisanji dicksucks in the entire branch lol

>> No.69838691

its already too late

>> No.69838726
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69838726

>>69838665
>PLEASE INCIMINATE YOURSELF

>> No.69838742

>>69838197
I wasn't trying to imply that was the case with this particular thread, I was just pointing out the flaw in the logic.
Incidentally IP count means jack shit, just airplane mode/VPN or something.

>> No.69838743

>>69838382
I’ll give it to you. I don’t think most of you are retarded enough to actually believe any of this shit. The only people retarded enough to believe it are the mouth breathers that come here from twitter or facebook and bring it outside of containment. But you’re still pathetic for basically spending hours of your day writing fanfiction and getting adrenaline rushes over q anon level rrats about people who play video games with an anime avatar and I truly hope you find Jesus

>> No.69838752

>>69838665
ever heard of plausible deniability sista?

>> No.69838792

>>69838672
Gotta show love for the family or get harassed until management terminates you!

>> No.69838834

Jannies letting this shit live long enough while deleting rrat threads, is a give away of this being a NDF Larp

>> No.69838845
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69838845

>>69835162
>plan to make an even bigger splash in anticipation of Elira's return to streaming
>They came to the conclusion that the backlash is negligible
So they plan to quadruple down, then?

>> No.69838848

>>69837890
Niji just needs to open the wallet, get big streamers to take their side. The people are cattle, they are mindless animals. If enough people say "X is bad" they will believe it, because they don't want to be in the minority. Nobody actually cares one way or another, they just want to be on the good team and mock the losers, they don't care which side it is. The question is if its worth it to niji to pay enough people to take their side until its an overwhelming majority, or just let time and silence even things back to neutral.

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>>69838834

>> No.69838918

>>69835162
I aint reading all that. Do they say anything about Pomu? Where she stands is the only thing I still can't wrap my head around with this mess.

>> No.69839030

>>69835162
I don't buy it, sounds just like a regular larper.

>> No.69839040
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69839040

I haven't seen anyone bring this up since Elira=management rrat was out but realizing this hurts

>> No.69839048

>>69835162
If the leaker is real this company is much more fucked up than I thought and the whole branch deserves to close altogether

Simply because this business model cannot survive in the long run and is doomed to self-destruction at some point, taking more than one liver with it

>> No.69839051

>>69838848
they won't even pay pennies to artists, what makes you think they'll dish out anything more for some gaijin "influencers"

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69839109

>not a single person saying it's a LARP last thread
>Ctrl + F LARP 17 results

>> No.69839173

>>69839051
you'd be surprised what people do to win. Especially when they have billions, maybe its worth it to crush the insect. If every big time streamer came out and shit on Doki with "shocking new evidence of her bullshit", the people would follow. The sheep just want to be on the winning team.

>> No.69839192

>>69838848
Let's be real, the only people still angry are the anons /here/, everyone else has moved on already. Verification not required.

>> No.69839197

>>69839040
that's so fucking petty and scummy, that's why i beleb elira is the manager

>> No.69839230

>>69839109
>Real time where anons are asking questions
>Later when everyone can see the full picture where its obviously a LARP
Big difference desu

>> No.69839259

>yfw the nijispy is actually Rosemi

>> No.69839265

>>69839040
>ThEre iS nO hAraSSmEnt in NiJi EN!

>> No.69839274

>>69839109
you dont announce a rrat, the rrat emerges by itself

>> No.69839281

>>69838268
Aia?

>> No.69839292

>>69838726
There are a couple of them who live in Japan, but all the rest live overseas. Realistically the cost of breaking NDA is getting your contract terminated which is really a perk at this point. The company having underpaid clerks do their legal work isn't going to suddenly turn around and hire a competent US/Canadian/British lawyer to actually sue for NDA violation

>> No.69839349

>>69839197
be a team player and join the group and don't be try to be little miss lone wolf menhera and maybe you get nice things too. that's how every job is, everywhere, not just vtubing

>> No.69839371

>>69835162
i don't believe any of this lol

>> No.69839387

>>69835809
ChatGpt can cover up all kinds of things. To be safe though the leaker should force ChatGpt to transcribe everything as a Shakespearean sonnet.

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>>69839259

>> No.69839410
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>>69839259
You know too much

>> No.69839430

>>69839192
>inb4 stock falls through the 3k mark and ACCELERATE intensifies

>> No.69839452

>>69839192
true. If it wasn't for this place I wouldn't even know there was a controversy honestly. A little twitter kerfuffle that's already past, a few whiners in Elira's stream, other than that you'd never even know. I need to stop coming to this shithole, it ruins everything.

>> No.69839489

>clique management rrat
who did kiara collab with in nijien? how much did she know? i remember that in one of her collabs with pomu, kiara openly shat on nijien management.

>> No.69839543

>>69838520
I believe this only because the gap would make me hard

>> No.69839570

>>69839349
but the team is filled with clique and corruption and Im not going to bow my head to them when i can do my job by myself just fine.

>> No.69839643

>>69837595
They feel like celebrities talking to TMZ when they go to these sites so yes they will never not be here

>> No.69839652

>>69838918
tl;dr
>leaker says Elira and her clique are real, and acting as mangement liaison
>they are behind the bad PR takes recently since they've been seething at Doki's success. Planning more once Elira comes back
>Uki suspended
>Rose, Scarle, Fulgur, Petra, Hex, and Meloco gave been distant
>Elira, Millie, Enna, and Reimu were counciled and have STFU publicly
>Some livers are going along with everything cuz they aren't bothering to do due diligence against the Selen Bad narrative the clique is pushing to them
>graduation queue is backed up. Not known who's next or when
>nothing said about Pomu, but insinuated disagreements about who the face of the branch should be were involved in her dream opportunity getting canned

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69839681

I won't be satisfied until we see Elira crying in court, for whatever reason

>> No.69839751

>>69839652
>Uki suspended
where

>> No.69839757

>>69837943
Didn't the leaker say they put in a 2 weeks notice months ago meaning they are graduating eventually
Why would Alban do that if he love his JP shit

>> No.69839764

Refusing to comment further on Doppio makes me feel like it’s a member of XSoleil. The very formal writing makes me feel like it could be Ver, possibly Hex.

>> No.69839774

>>69839406
rrat king materializing all rrats into existence and destroying nijien from withing would just be poetic

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>>69838665
>Without a single screenshot or leak there's no way to ascertain whether its true.

Are you the same guy that wants Doki to leak her sensitive legal information otherwise she's grifter?

>> No.69839872

>>69839040
what a fucking snake lmao

>> No.69839988

>>69839764
Isn't Ver a hanamorifag as well?

>> No.69839989

>>69839764
You need to be a retard to think this isn't breaking NDA or that this is anything but a LARP. No one in Nijisanji EN has this level of vocabulary, or is as well-put together as this person, who claims to have support systems in the form of friends and family and has run his mouth on insider company shit after getting legal counsel. Like imagine, getting "legal counsel" for disclosing gossip lmao.
Streamers are often a mess of a person that glue themselves together for hours at a time in front of an audience.

The credibility this has garnered can be attributed to the flowery prose, and that it exonerates basically everyone but Elira, Enna and Millie. And possibly Reimu.

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>>69839040
>Get the guy to shill you on twitter before anything so you can't possibly get the sponsorship stolen
>Make the entire MV yourself so it can't possibly get permissions cucked

>> No.69840005

>>69839751
Retard? He's taking a """""""""""""""""""""break""""""""""""""""""""" after the the million views racist tweet

>> No.69840006

>>69839751
Literally the topmost post in the image

>> No.69840041

>>69835162
I genuinely despise the "save me pink girl" rrat. Anything that has it is a fucking LARP. The original "leak" never made any sense in the first place. How the fuck would any mod even know about a private conversation between Millie and Rosemi?

>> No.69840088

>>69840005
tweet?

>> No.69840127

>>69840041
>How the fuck would any mod even know about a private conversation between Millie and Rosemi?
Yes, how indeed
..Unless

>> No.69840129

>>69839989
I think the legal counsel is for Getting The Fuck Out of Nijisanji

>> No.69840142

>>69835162
Why is Reimu getting more coaching?

>> No.69840203

It's definitely a larp. Nijis are too retarded to be this well-spoken or careful about their phrasing. I think that most of the rrats presented are probably 90% accurate though.

>> No.69840234

>>69839430
I wonder if falling under 3k will trigger a panic selloff.

>> No.69840248

>>69840127
You're assuming they do things in private instead of ganging up on each other in channels

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69840249

>>69840041
>Rosemi is the leaker
>Makes up a bunch of fake shit about herself to throw off tracks

>> No.69840267

>>69835162
I honestly feel sorry for Niji's talents now, that sounds like a shady and shitty place to work.

>> No.69840334

>>69840088
In his latest tweet he said he will do a last stream on bibili tomorrow and then he'll have a Break "because the world is cruel" and to self-reflect. what else do you call this besides a suspension?
https://youtu.be/7uIca16DpuU?t=12790

>> No.69840333

>>69839652
>they are behind the bad PR takes recently since they've been seething at Doki's success. Planning more once Elira comes back
Important to mention that their "plan" also includes a doxsite and 4chan campaign.
Leaker mentions

>> No.69840346

i'm not saying it's fake, but without more confirmations or evidence, i'm not yet convinced
of course, if it's real then the person probably can't say more safely, so likely we'll never know

>> No.69840350

>>69835162
I think what's more interesting is that there's more than one liver leaking shit out and that brings into question that if there are even more that have been leaking shit out

>> No.69840405

>>69840334 (me)
stream not tweet

>> No.69840449

>>69840350
they've literally all been /here/ damage controlling and deflecting in the past

>> No.69840476

>>69840350
He mentions two others that have been caught doing this.

>> No.69840483

>>69840334
>"because the world is cruel"
>everyone is evil but me
this dude unironically deserves rope

>> No.69840485

>>69840350
would you be able to resist leaking shit while the branch is having a complete meltdown?

>> No.69840532

>>69835162
The only verifiable assertion is the Uki suspension. We'll find out if it's true of not in the coming days. Interesting to see which rrats they expanded on and which ones they "dismissed" (embezzlement). Feels like an /wg/ exercise, but NijiEN is super leaky. Also list of people, leaker referred to in third person for funz:
>Elira, Enna, Petra, Reimu, Meloco, Millie, Rosemi, Scarle, Kotoka
>Uki, Vox, Hex, Fulgur, Doppio
Interesting to think about, but it's fiction unless their assertion can be verified.

>> No.69840536

>>69840142
She's part of the clique. Always has been. Nina said that Millie, Enna, and Reimu would reject her scheduled calls with ethyria and have them behind her back secretly.

>> No.69840543

>>69840142
Obvious implication is that that she's directly involved along with the cunter trio in pushing selen to try to an hero.

>> No.69840550

>>69840449
Civil war arc where all organs are anonymous 4chan users flinging shit at each other when?

>> No.69840565

>>69840346
>i'm not saying it's fake
If you don’t immediately know it’s fake then you’re retarded anon

>> No.69840598

>>69835162
This was either written by Fulgur Ovid or is a masterclass LARP by someone who is way too invested.

>> No.69840608

>>69840485
If I were the leaker I wouldn't be able to resist.
Especially given that if true, the leaker is watching them circlejerk in discord this whole time making poor plans for propaganda and narrative control.

>> No.69840610

>>69840346
Notice how there hasn't been any verifiable claim made in any of the posts.

>> No.69840619

It could be real, but I can't help but feel like it's somebody mostly just regurgitating rrats form here.
They need to at least leak something that will happen in the future, so the posts can be confirmed in hindsight.

>> No.69840695

>>69840619
It's some fucking dramatuber grifter that wants more content for videos

>> No.69840705

>>69840550
It’s happening right now in this very thread

>> No.69840731

>>69840695
You sound upset.

>> No.69840755

>>69840598
I think Aia, Scarle, or Rosemi are actually viable alternatives here. That said, I think it's just a larper putting together the most logical and safe things based on the information we have, it's a fun read and super plausible even if it's a larp

>> No.69840756

>>69840532
Even Uki's suspension is up in the air now.
If they get wind of this and try to convince management, it's possible it could get overturned just to help future PR.

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>>69839040
Really puts a lot of these past occurences in a different light after the recent happenings. And certainly not in a good one....

>> No.69840784

Is this you Hana? Don't want all this EN bullshit for yourself?

>> No.69840805

QRD? I saw asmongold talking about niji on front page, which is odd.

>> No.69840810

>>69840350
This is the battleground for the livers cuz they can't shit on each other in discord
The clique members are easily visible and sometimes even recognizable lmao
I think I know who the longass Q&A leaker is. If I'm right, a hint is a native eigo speaker doesn't normally talk like that. Since they're on their way out, it's best to keep it as clean as possible even if they can't help blabbing, cuz it's just so juicy right now

>> No.69840833

>>69840129
The person said they spoke to legal counsel to be "absolutely certain" they can disclose what they did, and also further substantiated with saying other livers have been caught leaking stuff and weren't penalized, making them untouchable (or so they claim).
You really think someone is seriously going to contact a lawyer saying,
>hey i wanna give 4chan the hot goss on my company. i should be able to, right?
>Lawyer: "yeah go ahead lol"
Jesus some of you are gullible.

>> No.69840854

fraudulent and homosexual

>> No.69840855

>>69840763
The merch/sponsorship bias is all but confirmed at this point. It's safe to say Elira had some level of control over who got what in some way

>> No.69840956

>>69840695
say what you want about dramatubers but they dont talk about rrats

>> No.69840963

>>69835162
Can someone give me the tl;dr?

>> No.69840986

>>69840854
leaker-san, please

>> No.69841017

>>69840986
holy schizo

>> No.69841024

>>69839040
This is just sad

>> No.69841037

>>69840532
Uki's suspension is not verifiable considering he announced his break before he made that ill advised tweet in the first place. He could be suspended but he could easily just be on break

>> No.69841042

>>69840805
uki is a racist piece of shit and nijipig fanbase is enabling them

>> No.69841059

>>69840963
anon larps and is verbose about it
retards believe his words

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69841081

>>69840963
I can give you the di;ck how bout that.

>> No.69841126

>>69840755
>Aia
>Scarle
Both of those are retarded and not nearly verbose enough. Also, it's not Fulgur because he genuinely loves and cares for Uki and would not be divulging this info about him if it were true.

>> No.69841129

>>69840784
Hana is part of NijiJP since the dissolution/merge of the NijiID branch, so I doubt she has anything to do with this.

>> No.69841145

>>69841059
When the rrats start to make more sense than the alternatives, there must be fuckery about.

>> No.69841167

>>69841126
Alban?

>> No.69841182

>>69840833
did you even read what you replied to or are sisters even distorting in their mind posts they are replying to

>> No.69841311

you might wanna check the doxsite and the absolute seethe and damage control there.
If anything, I believe this is a genuine rrat because it caused so much asspain

>> No.69841317

Unironically the most interesting rrats I've seen on /vt/ even if it's a larp. Reality has been far stranger than fiction this month though.

>> No.69841320

>>69840833
One peeve I had with the "expose" was how much they wrote to vindicate Rosemi from the clique and then when it came to Doppio, it was just "Oh yeah he's cool". Why not give more detail on the latter too unless you're just trying to bank off of the people that feature most in the drama?

>> No.69841345

>>69841182
Did you, you retarded cocksucker?

>> No.69841383

>>69840833
>can I shitpost on an anonymous website?
>yeah lol

>> No.69841392

This is obviously real. If you think otherwise you are in denial

>> No.69841457

>>69840963
Literally just scroll up

>> No.69841479

>>69841320
Maybe because Doppio is the leaker and doesn't want to incriminate himself?

>> No.69841488

>>69841320
people were asking about Rosemi far more, and have been for weeks

>> No.69841493

>>69835162
>Uki has been suspended
Hasn't he been streaming like normal?

>> No.69841494

>>69841383
NTA but don't forget that part of the lawsuit between Mafu and Mike is that she shitposted about him on an anonymous website.

>> No.69841496
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>>69835162
Hmm... fascinating.

>> No.69841520

>>69841320
I think this is also why this is gaining traction.
It paints Vivi as a dumb and naive for being oblivious to the power structure of NijiEN while also saying she probably believes every word coming out of management/corporate, and it essentially places the entire blame on Elira, Enna and Millie, meaning some of the more well-regarded talents like Rosemi, Scarle, Maria, etc come across as powerless pawns presumably looking for the quickest way out that won't hurt their careers.

>> No.69841525

>>69841129
She said she don't want to have anything close related to EN cus they are "too open for fans hurr durr" etc. After all this rrats, she more likely afraid of being placed in EN/ under EN management instead of JP after eventual death of ID remains.

>> No.69841535

>>69841167
All of Noctyx is extremely close and love each other. It would be very out of character for any of them to write this about a fellow wavemate. Since that leaves out Fulgur, I'm not really sure who else is potentially capable of writing so eloquently. I saw Hex and Ver thrown around but they're both ESL. The women are genuinely retarded with Rosemi being the slight exception. Although if it was her she wouldn't half ass vindicating herself either

>> No.69841545

>>69841493
He ended the last one saying he was "going on break because reality is cruel."

>> No.69841578

>>69841145
They don’t make any sense

>> No.69841595

>>69840833
I know lawyers that would greenlight this, because it would be good PR for anybody that might end up in a legal battle where the PR victory matters more than the Legal victory.
If you've been keeping up, that's THIS ENTIRE EVENT.

>> No.69841652

>>69841494
That's because 5chan is retarded and you can disclose the user who made the post, it's impossible to do that in 4chan which is why some jp were seething that here it's not possible to find out the identity of the niji leaker like that

>> No.69841659

>>69835162
I always had a feeling nijiEN was full of bullies and terrible people, even before actual drama even started. Something about the fanbase reflects the streamer's personality in some way and nijiEN fags at the time were really malicious and thrived off putting others down, and I'm glad my intuition was right.

>> No.69841689

>>69841652
you can disclose people's identities on 5chan? how??

>> No.69841712

>>69841578
What, that Elira and co became management liasons? Inconceivable.

>> No.69841723

>>69835162
>>69840963
ROSEMI IS A GOOD GIRL

>> No.69841764

>>69841525
As the days pass by, revealing more about the shitfest that is the EN branch, what you said becomes increasingly likely.

>> No.69841779

>>69841723
I belieb

>> No.69841785
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>>69841723
SHE'S A WOO GIRL

>> No.69841821
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I think this part is the most interesting to me.
If it's true, it means that either Niji has been deleting shit (which doesn't matter because Discord can just fetch old logs, AND it could be considered a crime), or the shit from a month ago is tame compared to what's already out there.

>> No.69841845

>>69841595
This whole premise is based on NijiEN being the wild west, and it having non-existent management beyond Elira being the go-to person for everything. If we assume this is true, then sure, I could maybe see this not falling under NDA because if the contracts do not measure management whatsoever, they're good.
But to think that speaking of things like graduation queues, things that investors, the people whose teat they must suck to survive, wouldn't care that basically EN is a city covered in gasoline waiting for single spark to blow up, is asinine. Riku would unironically arrange the assassination of this person. Or anyone that speaks of such things. It'll make this branch go under, and hurt his business.

>> No.69841873

>>69841689
Not the one you're answering to, but I think it has something to do with the users ID

>> No.69841907

>>69841689
iirc there's a law that in 5chan only if the police asks for it, they can disclose the IP of the user who makes the post

>> No.69841952

>>69841845
its retarded to think that. There is no way in any shape or form that this rrat is true. A billion dollar company doesn't go "lol ok guys, have fun and run things yourself" To think that is just delusional.

>> No.69841990

>>69841845
Yeah, but this is the same company that failed to get an artist under binding NDA at least 3 times because they put the wrong name on the paperwork. It's entirely possible that one or more livers have invalid agreements, and a lawyer has noticed.

>> No.69842014

>>69841659
I stayed until they ruined my oshi, now I am a supporter of shutting down NijiEN so that it does not harm more streamers. She did not deserve that.

>> No.69842018

>>69841167
>"We're not close, but he seems to be a good guy"
>Doppio has only collabed with Alban a small handful of times

HMMMMMMMMM

>> No.69842023

>>69841952
You can literally look up who the head of overseas management is at anycolor. It's some music dude who does it as a side gig.

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>>69841689
>>69841907 (me)

>> No.69842044

>>69841821
The JP management may be tech illiterate enough to don't know that they can request Discord access to view deleted logs.

>> No.69842117

>>69841952
You seem to be under the impression that Riku Tazumi isn't a complete retard

>> No.69842185

>>69842044
the problem is that probably most of the nasty shit is on the private server, which is owned by elira not anycolor

>> No.69842189

>>69841952
This happens all the time in companies with translators. The translators end up being the go-between, and then eventually somebody makes the Middle-Man the Actual Man to save time and money.

>> No.69842190

>>69841545
this faggot is never going to apologize or get punished? i like how the clique rrat gets reinforced with every fuck up and their response to it

>> No.69842205

>>69835162
Whoever made the screencap fucked up the bundling. Apart from the first two groupings, the rest of the "spy"'s posts are grouped with the wrong question posts. Remake this properly

>> No.69842223

>>69838153
>proper british words, like bomoan or verboten
>verboten

>> No.69842224

>>69841952
>what is NijiKR

>> No.69842231

>>69842185
Oh she controls their server for communications too? It just keeps getting better.

>> No.69842272
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>>69840142
She is the only one stupid and callous enough to openly mock Selen's suicide attempt.

>> No.69842277
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>>69835162
whoever organized this image is fucking retarded jesus christ

>> No.69842324

>>69842231
there are two servers. the official one that is used less and a private unofficial one which is used more

>> No.69842350

>>69841845
>>69841952
Luca has shared private company information to Raziel, which would be punishable offense in any normal company but Anycolor is far from normal. This makes the affirmations done by the supposed leaker a little more credible.

>> No.69842412

>>69842185
Honestly, I already had forgotten about that. They're fucked then.

>> No.69842427

>>69838274
Leaker will likely mention himself in third person to avoid being guessed, so just lay off the guy for now so that we can get more stuff.

>> No.69842456

>>69841821
>(which doesn't matter because Discord can just fetch old logs
Something that came out during one of the grifterlawyer's streams was that logs deleted in a server are deleted from all of discord entirely. Or so trooncord claims. I think it's BS but apparently that's their "official procedure".

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>>69842277
>start of the image
>questions first, answers after
>halfway through
>answers first, questions after

>> No.69842532

>>69842427
Understood.

>> No.69842541

Can't find mention of it there. What do the livers think of Pomu's movements after graduation?

>> No.69842565

>>69837612
You're assuming that Kyo isn't lying.
As people have mentioned, while your "in" you'd better be on your best behavior.
He may have traded the favor in as a way to get out, since the leaker confirmed there's an actual queue for leaving.
So while publicly everyone thinks Kyo will return the favor, he might just ghost all of them and live his new life in Mythic or VShojo or wherever and never mention this bullshit again.

>> No.69842596

>>69835162
Vivi, you really should have watched it before retweeting

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>>69838848
Oh PLEASE do try this, it would be supremely entertaining

>> No.69842634

The three company exits that should tell you most of the rrats are true are: Pomu, Nina and Selen.

Pomu was deeply passionate, and had only quit her irl job to pursue it full-time a year earlier. Her leaving indicates the org structure is fundamentally broken.

Nina is the only EN with half a brain cell (I don't like her personally, but...). It's well documented she got treated like shit by genmates. She left fairly quickly.

Selen was also deeply passionate but kept away from the rest of the group. This indicates that not even keeping the fuck away from everyone else keeps you safe from the bullshit.

>> No.69842650

>>69842541
As far as I remember, nobody in that thread asked the leaker about it.

>> No.69842660

>>69841535
I figure I know who it is but for their sake I'm not gonna spill it.

>> No.69842687

>>69838065
they defended Rosemi's reputation in particular
don't reply to this

>> No.69842761

>>69842565
No, it's impossible for him to go back on his word. Enna knows where he and his parents live now.

>> No.69842777

>>69842634
>Pomu was deeply passionate, and had only quit her irl job to pursue it full-time a year earlier. Her leaving indicates the org structure is fundamentally broken.
this, you know how Fubuki said if she ever leaves hololive it's a sign the company has become bad? I always felt that way about Pomu for NijiEN

>> No.69842786

>>69842634
>Pomu, Nina and Selen.
It's also funny that these 3 were very key members (Yes including Nina) when it came to NijiEN's success outside of just Cuckxiem

>> No.69842787

>>69838848
>Niji just needs to open the wallet
And right off the cuff your plan is a failure.
150% of this trouble could've been avoided if Riku opened the wallet and wasn't a cheapskate.

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reformatted

>> No.69842834

>>69842761
What she gonna do? Headbutt Kyo and his family with that giant head of hers? kek

>> No.69842844

>>69841320
Someone tried to poison the water with "emojis" and a "follow the rose" push, which is why the leaker stepped in to course correct.

>> No.69842881

>>69842350
says Raziel. how do you know he wasn't hacked? how do you know they're not fake screenshots? none of that is confirmed in any way except by a butthurt menhera with an axe to grind. I hate Luca too, but there's really nothing concrete on him

>> No.69842885

>>69842634
>not even keeping the fuck away from everyone else keeps you safe
Since she didn't know japanese, she sooner or later had to cross paths with Elira everytime she wanted to get perms, confirmations, and so on. So you couldn't even keep away from these people if you wanted to.

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>>69842687

>> No.69842892

>>69841952
> what is NijiKR
> what is Dizzie
> what is Menace

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>>69841952
>A billion dollar company doesn't go "lol ok guys, have fun and run things yourself"
You'd be surprised. Get big enough and greedy corporate suits will leave you alone, provided you keep the revenue machine running. I imagine that's doubly the case with foreign corporations, who aren't gonna bother lending (spending) a translated ear on internal issuesnso as long as they keep getting business. Though NijiEN wishes they had the talent of the Termite Terrace animators, let alone their success and legacy.

>> No.69842939

>>69839349
t. only job is in a sweatshop

>> No.69842951

>>69835162
This is some Bourne Ultimatum shit. Now I'm expecting CIA being involved and there's black ops being conducted in the background.

>> No.69842971

>>69842617
it would work and you know it. If all the dramatubers, all the fleshstreamers, the indies chuubas etc all turned against her, the tourists would follow. No one gives 2 shits about Selen. They just want to be "good" and "right". If she's the bad guy, they'll turn on her as fast as they did Elira, in a heartbeat

>> No.69842975

>>69842834
She's known to have posted in the doxxsite. I don't know how strictly their comments are moderated but just a flash of Kyo's personal information is enough to mobilize the schizo fans

>> No.69842976

>>69842881
t. lucuck

>> No.69842981

>>69840963
This is a preamble.
The rrats will come to roost when some of this shit is revealed.
April is the month.

>> No.69843002

>>69835162
being trapped a year after giving notice... FUCK THAT

>> No.69843028

>>69835162
Wait, the insider/larper/rosebud? said something about Rosemi's "save me pink girl" tweet? What's that all about?

>> No.69843030

>>69841320
Because with Doppio, He's never really seen collabing or talking too much to anyone in that circle. Note that he was also the only one that stayed silent on the whole Zaion situation. He just stays in his lane and entertains his audience and doesn't rock the boat too much

Rosemi on the other hand has been in Elira's friend group since before even NijiEN and was in nearly every bestie collab.

>> No.69843045
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>>69842231
It was quite obvious.
I remember her posting a discord screenshot about one of the new waves talking in voice on twitter as well.
Some have not joined it.

>> No.69843064

>>69842456
Discord ownership is registered in the States and the Netherlands. The feds and the EU authorities would fold every C-suite at Discord into a pretzel if their service could be used for untracable communication. That claim ahs to be bullshit.

>> No.69843078 [DELETED] 
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The person who was behind doxxing Pomu was Elira.
Pomu told her who she was and Elira released that information on nyfco.
What Elira didn't know was that Pomu posted her nudes on /b/ and /vt/ would quickly catch on and connect the dots.

>> No.69843083

>>69842809
thank god my autism was giving me aneurysm

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>>69841723
ROSEMI IS A COOL GIRL

>> No.69843106

>>69842761
>>69842975
> all niji off-collabs were potential blackmail material
Holy shit no wonder they did those in hotels most of the time.

>> No.69843154

>>69841952
even the lawyer guy said that it literally happens all the time in companies and almost always creates problems of favoritism

>> No.69843207

>>69843154
Anyone who has worked in a multi-national near revenue generation knows this. It happens at quite literally every level of the orgs

>> No.69843236

>>69843078
>What Elira didn't know was that Pomu posted her nudes on /b/ and /vt/ would quickly catch on and connect the dots.
you got some source on that anon?

>> No.69843241

>>69843078
Wow, the more I learn about her, the less I like her. Who watches someone like this?

>> No.69843247

>>69842787
You think Tazumi is looking at the stockprice and thinking to himself how much cheaper it'd have been if they just payed for decent management?

>> No.69843253

>>69842881
Poster you're replying to here. The Aster-Scarle convo screenshot came after she said that Aster was the Iluna member harassing the newer girls. Also the image is too specific to be an edit, unless the supposed editor that posted the screencap had been saving it for a moment like that.

>> No.69843323

>>69842787
true, but he could remedy that, if he's butthurt enough and REALLY wanted revenge

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>>69835162
New grand unifying rrat is here! Let's fucking goooo!!

>> No.69843349

>>69843106
There's also a reason why Selen stayed away from offcollabs. Her first ever offcollab was with someone she can trust: Yugo.

>> No.69843365

>>69843253
I agree, its very very good, but not impossible. It's still just the word of a scored woman trying to get back at him, that's all

>> No.69843364

>>69843045
>She hasn't joined the private discord "because she's too shy" apparently

Yeah I'm sure that's the reason lol

>> No.69843420

>>69835162
Aia

>> No.69843427

>>69843247
Naah, because there is evidence that Niji was started with among things, yakuza money, for seed capital. This is not uncommon in Japan, they hold capital, they have international ties - their money makes their way around.

If you have an illegal revenue stream to back you up, you can just launder that yakuza money through a company like AnyColor. In fact, it is a really good place to make lots of money disappear in transactions. And come out as legal capital.

Yakuza has to make their money somehow. Many criminal organizations operate like this - funding legal businesses and then taking them over, or using them to launder.

>> No.69843435

>>69843236
lurk more

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>>69842809
dark mode

>> No.69843496

>>69843349
Her last off-collab was with the girls, where she really felt out of place

>> No.69843501

>>69837912
Rosemi, but I'll have to go through her streams. It's been a while since I was a member.

>> No.69843504

>>69842634
What rrats?
This is how I view each one and why they graduated.
>Pomu
She was an office lady clearly fed up with her job and found success via vtubing, and it helps that she has an incredibly cute voice, is a hag and very knowledgeable of internet culture, and is an actual otaku. I know she said she wanted to spread love for Nijisanji in the west, but I think at some point she stopped believing that and it became clear she just lived for fans. She appreciated Pomies and they were the ones that pushed her to continue, so her leaving to me makes it clear that NijiEN was a shitshow well on it's way to become an even bigger one if Pomu didn't want to weather that storm for her fans. And I'm glade she didn't;she gave us her very best.
>Nina
I feel bad for her. I know about her PL shit, but I think she genuinely saw NijiEN as a new leash on life and I believed her when she said she'd work her ass of to make the most of the opportunity, so to see her be excluded by her own wave is really sad. I'm glad it seems that they did patch things up, but I think Nina's optimism was crushed with the way her wavemates treated her, so she sought refuge in Luxiem and became their accessory, and at that point in her career I think it was both out of personal benefit to her via leeching and because she came to see the guys as friends, but eventually she realized that she left fans behinds, and the bullying from insane Luxiem fujos grew to be too much. I respect her grind however, she played the algorhythm just right and was the most subbed female in EN at one point.
>Selen
Some else very passionate and I think the most distinguishing feature is that among vtubers, I don't think I've seen anyone else that wants to get her community as involved in the things she does as Selen. Because of what happened to her I do believe there are bullies in management, I believe a clique exists, but I don't know if I buy the LARP that essentially places the entire blame on Enna, Elira and Millie, even if we do know Enna and Millie have a history of bullying because of what happened to Nina.

>> No.69843556

>>69843078
>Passively aggressively bring this up the nudes topic.
This isn't even about Elira isn't it? You're a piece of shit.

>> No.69843570

>>69843466
Thank you anon, this is better formatted too. Appreciate it !

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>>69842971
> if
they cannot you fool
your reputation is in absolute tatters
you people will NEVER gain steam in the west again
shutting up and just streaming to your 300 or so leftover fans (and 2-3 heavy antis) is the best you can afford to do right now
and seethe at the yellow birb

>> No.69843631
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>>69841723
I am willing to fight for any rrats that say Obsydia is just a VERY unfortunate group of girls who are/were caught in the jaws of a mean girl clique, with its fangs protruding from Lazulight and Ethyria. Not counting Pomu, of course... And maybe Finana for reasons of stupidity.

>> No.69843637

>>69842777
If Fubuki quit out of the blue or at the tail end of a series of dramas (like Pomu) sure, but I don't think FBK should be forced to stay a Holo forever just because fans see her as the canary in the coal mine.

>> No.69843651

>>69843078
I wonder if it was a liver who posted those..
even if they weren't I'm sure those pics were used to bully Pomu internally

>> No.69843716

>>69843427
now i wonder if niji on jp side is just a giant brothel

>> No.69843748

>>69835809
The leaker shares some crossover with Fulgur's idiolect but there are some inconsistencies that give me pause.
Punctuation especially.

>> No.69843758

>>69840550
That's been happening since the branch started.

>> No.69843801

>>69843651
No. It was someone who was here long enough to remember.
No. Even Elira felt like a retard when the shit surfaced. Fulgur was probably the most empathetic one about the whole affair.

>> No.69843870

>>69843427
This. Cover is also publicly traded but is nothing like this. If Anycolor only puts 2% of merch revenue into Nijisanji where is that other 98% (among other streams of revenue) going?

>> No.69843878

>>69840550
I'd bet a sizable chunk of Nijisister posts are actual clique talents.

>> No.69843902
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Why do you guys want to slander this woman so much? What did she do to make you seeth this hard? Sure that stream was a mistake, but a forgivable one, not something you should destroy her career over.

>> No.69843922

>>69843600
ha, keep dreaming dokifag. A few months from now she'll be lower ccv than some nijis again

>> No.69843938

>>69843466
>>69842809
Much better, thanks.

>> No.69843946

>>69843078
I always thought the nudes being found had to be someone grudgeposting. They were ancient and unremarkable.

>> No.69843960

>>69843902
But assuming the worst case scenario, Elira destroyed her own career, however.

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Damn I come back to find out I'm fucking retarded. My apologies, I fixed it. There are others posted already though.

>> No.69843986

>>69835162
which fucking retard formatted this?

>> No.69844001

>>69843902
they're just dramamongers, here to stir shit and suck Selen's dick. Elira did nothing wrong, other than try too hard to help out an inept management team, and blindly read a terrible script.

>> No.69844017

>>69843902
It's not slander when there are reams of circumstantial evidence going back years implicating her.

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>>69842687
I am not replying
I am not thinking

>> No.69844077

>>69844001
fuck off Millie

>> No.69844137

>>69843716
Weren't there some rrats about Uiha in a similar vein?

>> No.69844138

>>69844001
>Elira and two other fags attacking the character of a girl that tried to kill herself and doing so at the same time she tried to stream a game she likes is okay guys
You're exactly the same type of scum that told that faggot Ike they'd love him even if he did kill someone.

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>>69843427
>>69843716
>>69843870
I've been meaning to ask, if Japan is a society of polite robot-people that follow all rules diligently, how do you end up with something like the Yakuza?

>> No.69844168

>>69841990
> send organs NDA to artist
> send artists NDA to organ
> minimum wage lol IDGAF

>> No.69844187

>>69838845
Yes and I can see it happen so clearly. If leaker or LARP, I believe it

>> No.69844191

>>69843987
Thank you OP, I see you and appreciate the effort to educate the masses. Good weekend to you !

>> No.69844230

>>69844162
Implied rules, politeness and manners are even more important in a society like that.
The Yakuza follow shadow rules.

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>Rosemi and Scarle absolved
This feeling is wonderful. I am not a poor judge of character.

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yabe

>> No.69844265

>>69844001
Bro don't talk with boot in your mouth, makes it hard to understand

>> No.69844275

>>69839040
Yeah I remembered this subconsciously, fuck Elira

>> No.69844302

>>69844262
It's not the /vt/ or even Playboard that's there.
It's fucking warosu, which means they're more terminally /here/ than 99% of the posters.

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>>69843078
Uh, thanks Elira

>> No.69844356

>>69842272
Wow

>> No.69844379

>>69844236
>Watches Niji content.
I mean, you are already halfway there.
I really hope Fulgur isn't a cunt but it doen't look good.

>> No.69844382

>>69844162
The meanest Yakuza member is probably more polite than the friendliest MS-13 member

>> No.69844417

>>69843987
The confirmation that Scarle is being left out of the NijiEN FF guild is very damning.

>> No.69844426

>>69843902
Picking a public fight with a suicidal woman who was trying to leave, on X and youtube of all places, probably has to something to do with that.

And in some cases, you shouldn't be asking the anons
>What did she do to make you seeth this hard?
But
>What did she do to make you this hard?
Evil Elira is built for correction/correcting. No other flavor of Elira from any other rrats will do. So "Elira is a high level bitch" rrats it is.

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>>69844236
>>69844379
And here I am hoping the rrats are false.

>> No.69844453

>>69842272
jesus, I hadnt put that together before. They really do run to twitter to self report every time

>> No.69844469

>>69844162
It's not unlike other organized crime where the collective sees itself as a natural symptom of the society, but while they don't deny they arouse out of circumstances directly tied to their society, they mistakenly believe themselves to be its cure.
Most heads of criminal organizations will tell you they are a mere consequence of government incompetence and provide people with whatever illegal thing they want because if not someone else would provide it for them.
The yakuza are a bit different in that they're gangs that got formed to represent neighborhoods and they see themselves as their protectors. Of course, they got to pay tithes, but really they view themselves as chivalrous because if push comes to shove they claim they'd fight for their community, be it against the government or other gangs.
And the businesses they own are, again, something they view as giving back to their community rather than another venue to take money away from them.

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>>69843504
I know these shitpost threads from back in 2022 are really stupid but there's a lot of truth to it. In many ways these 3 in particular were a very integral part of NijiEN's success.
Pomu was the most creative, being able to work in virtually any scenario and having the most standout personality of anyone in her branch and arguably in all of EN vtubing.
Selen is kind of similar, leaning more into the more gamer appeal and pushing for a lot of the best collabs and events that the branch ever had. Keep in mind that if not for her, Wrestlesanji would have never happened.
Nina was a little different. She made connections with pretty much everyone and arguably did the most to get people in and out of NijiEN to interact with each other and was literally the team mom for better or worse. Her leaving first was honestly the point of no return, its no coincidence that Pomu's decision to graduate came about a month after Nina left.

>> No.69844492

>>69839989
What if a liver has gotten their friend to leak information on behalf of them or like a lawyer friend? Yeah, I can see it happen

>> No.69844530

>>69843902
>but a forgivable one
No it fucking isnt you cunt. You absolute fucking piece of shit.

>> No.69844533

>>69844162
Essentially all cultures have crime, I do not know of countries that have none. But how much (how much is registered), and what they do about it, is what differs.

There are people who want human trafficking, they want drugs, they want someone beat up or scared, they wanna sabotage or intimidate the competition, they want someone to solve their legal dispute more than documents. They have money and they WILL pay. So there is a market, and from that an organization like the Yakuza can make a living.

Just never forget that the downside of that lifestyle, is prison sentences and always looking over your shoulder, wondering if you told people too much, and who might have seen you. Good people tend to live less stressful lives on that account.

>> No.69844553

>>69843427
With all the Chinese Investors around, why not the Triad?

>> No.69844650

>>69839489
Management told Kiara the wrong date of Pomu's graduation stream. She almost missed it.

>> No.69844692

No wonder your dads believe in Q.

>> No.69844704

>>69835162
Analyzing everyone mentioned and relationship of the spy vs the rest
People pre-XSOLEIL not mentioned(the spy could mentions theirself as a throw off)
>Finana, Aia, Maria, Luca, Alban, Sonny Ren
>the spy is not that close to Doppio
So in my broken conclusion the spy is either Alban or Sonny

>> No.69844707

>>69844379
Fulgur
Who else in NijiEN would use cromulent words like solipsistic and insolvent?

>> No.69844753

>>69844162
You will never eliminate crime, it can be controlled but it won't ever be eliminated.
There are markets for everything and there are people willing to fill those markets with whatever people want, since anything can be lucrative if you know how.

>> No.69844755

>>69844469
You know your description of the Yakuza can apply to the mafia too. They aren't that different because not a lot of people see themselves as evil.

>> No.69844768

>>69844704
I reached this conclusion as well.

>> No.69844810

>>69844455
The rrats are pretty much irrelevant now, the damage is done and regardless of what is actually happening people have made up their mind.
Niji has been hung in the court of public opinion.

>> No.69844827

>>69843253
its also acurrately that leaker said they started doing more VC than text, that correlates too well that its scary

>> No.69844863

>>69844704
if you're gonna talk about more than half of the people there, talking about yourself just as you talk about everyone else would be the best way to hide your tracks

>> No.69844883

>>69841659
Yeah you start to notice their questionable personalities quickly

>> No.69844886

>>69839652
>nothing said about Pomu, but insinuated disagreements about who the face of the branch should be were involved in her dream opportunity getting canned

OP leaker may be fake but it sure does seem like "Elira and friends not being the undisputed queens of the NijiEN girls caused someone with power (who may have been Elira herself) to seethe so hard they set the entire branch on fire to chase out the girls who were as popular as/more popular than them" is going to prove to be the core of this whole story when all is said and done.

>> No.69844903

>>69844755
"The family"
We had a nice godfather-esque fanfic a couple of days ago

>> No.69844965

>>69840350
Theoretically you could use posts from the clique to confirm rrats. But you would need to catch them.

>> No.69845040

>>69840532
Scarle was clearly suspended and they reversed it after people started making noise about it.

>> No.69845052

>>69844965
now let's see, which livers have had antis on here shitting on them for ages?
perhaps people constantly linking to bad things they do every time they're mentioned?
this sounds like the petty behavior expected of crab bucket mentality

>> No.69845154

>>69844755
Yes, they're not that different, but I do unironically think most Yakuza would actually have some values, and they try and instill that in the youngblood.
American gangs are strictly about turf, business, and being respected.
Mexican/South American crime is like a mix of the two above, but with an added element of actual malice that isn't just found across edgy teenage recruits that think they have to do inhumane things to prove their worth. Leaders are just as vicious and callous. I think I'd attribute that to faith being more intricately tied in that crime world; despite being friendly, you'd be hard-pressed to find a really optimistic Mexican/South American in regards to attitudes towards self-betterment, government and societal progress. They see these things as like structures always on the decline and take solace in faith. I think that's what makes these criminal organizations more brutal, and why they feel less remorse about fucking with the lives of ordinary people; they may coldly view it as a simple consequence of a business dealing, justify their actions as symptomatic of incompetent government, and think they will be held responsible spiritually, and that perhaps the soul of any innocent they kill will be rewarded with eternal paradise.

>> No.69845162

>>69843045
Fulgur is also on record saying the discord gets so bad he's left it for months at a time.

>> No.69845204

Is this the Friday Happening that was promised?

>> No.69845221

>>69843716
> You now remember Yumenographia existed
> You now remember how it was shut down all of a sudden and 50 chuubas were fired with zero warning
> You now remember that it was a V-escort type service that even chuuba s like Ange used
> You now remember the were rrats emerging in Japan about them offering more "service" for VIPs right before they shut it down

>> No.69845257

>>69840532
NTA, but I was one of the first, if not the first, anons to propose the possibility of embezzlement, and I said off the cuff that it was incredibly unlikely and would only happen if there was extreme accounting negligence. Given that Riku is predominantly driven by profit, I don't see that working out long term.
It's more likely that Elira and the clique would have just controlled the flow of money by controlling the narrative and collabs/sponsorships. That's much safer than outright pocketing money and forcing Selen to pay out of pocket.

>> No.69845351

>>69844162
it's not unlike the US militias of old, wild west had very little rule of law so sheriff's and other citizen groups took up arms to protect each other
protection racket usually has criminal elements in it, so in modern society most of these groups eventually become criminal orgs

>> No.69845355

>>69845221
I do?

>> No.69845359

>>69844886
Rrat but what if Elira was the one who proposed to Pomu to do the MGS thing but management wanted Elira to begin with and management said no to switching?
And Elira may have protested or felt bad and refused so Konami went to Hololive instead and told Calli she was in 3rd place because "2 other people couldn't do it".

>> No.69845370

>>69844886
>set the entire branch on fire to chase out the girls who were as popular as/more popular than them
and that is a good thing and ensures NijiEN will stay mediocre in the future.

The reason newer waves are poorly advertised and are full of mediocre organs is because they obviously don't want to hire any one promising and with ambition anymore.

Classical corruption shitfest.

>> No.69845372

>>69842975
They're not moderated at all really. There's the option to flag comments and with enough flags they'll be removed but there doesn't seem to be any actual moderation of content.

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>>69835162
>Anon: Who fucked over Pomu's dream?
>Spy: Miscommunication and covert sabotage. It has whom the "face" of the branch is supposed to be. Coupled with general incompetence. Incidentally, it goes well beyond MGS promotional initiative

So SOMEONE on the EN "management" was jealous of Pomu, and so that person deprived her of an once in lifetime opportunity?!

Gosh, what a piece of shit.

>> No.69845402

>>69844707
Vox, Alban, Vanta? I don't believe the rrat, but none of them speak so eloquently so I don't believe it.
Sonny could also fit the bill, but I discarded him because knowing him at this point in time he'd have faked his own death again lol.

>> No.69845438

>>69843987
Thanks to you ans Nijispy for adding onto the Scarle thread. I was schizoing out and saw the abyss. Nice to see more rrats generated. Impressive work

>> No.69845508

>>69842971
One of the big streamers would blow the whistle and it would harm Nijisanji even more.

>> No.69845540

>>69841952
Warning, incoming >trust me bro/blogshit

I work for a company where stupid stuff like this happens multiple times a year. Our CEO, bless his rotten soul, is the only person I've ever met with worse ADHD than myself and his goes completely untreated. For example of the goofs that I've been blessed to experience:
>assigned to manage new projects in the middle of on-boarding for other projects.
>had an entire department torpedoed without any warning while away for two days because "I wanted to take care of it while it was at the forefront of my mind."
>had a profitable revenue source sabotaged to give his daughter an "opportunity."
>had a hr position remain vacant for 4 years because as part of the on-boarding process they would tell the new hire "btw we have 14 months of hard docs that need to be scanned in addition to your other responsibilities."

I absolutely believe that upper management and company leadership can choose to live in a fantasy world and let inmates guard themselves.

>> No.69845562

>>69845204
LK promised something on the 23rd, but this guy says he isn't LK.

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>>69845381
Most likely their head of overseas management.

>> No.69845595

>>69843637
I think foobs is planning to stay long term with holo, even if she quits being a regular streamer she can always move into a-chans role without outright graduating and stay there for decades

>> No.69845652

>>69845562
A lot of things changed in the meantime. It's not impossible for schedules to have been pushed even further, especially if the leaks here are true and Niji has a lot of leeway in the contracts.

>> No.69845687

it must feel absolutely AWFUL to be part of lazusydia (except Elira lol) and remember how it was at the start vs what it's like now
just imagine

>> No.69845842

>>69841952
That muh "billion dollar company" make money from 2D avatars of retards doing degenerate noises for incels and femcels.
From fucking AIR.
It's was lucky time for "vtubers" and that's all.

>> No.69845866

>>69845687
ngl I wish I was there when NijiSPY showed up to ask about feesh's involvement, to corroborate with her statement of "being there for the other livers the last couple of weeks"

>> No.69845875

>>69841952
just a reminder that there are multiple confirmed leakers, actual self-proclaimed bullies and a fucking RACIST currently employed at Nijisanji, and have been employed there for years.
There is nothing "professional" about this pathetic excuse of a company.

>> No.69845889

>>69844707
Or gestalt; I didn't even know that German word was a loan word in English.

>> No.69845934

lol
you people will believe anything

>> No.69845975

>>69845687
you mean just Finana kek

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>mfw i missed the spy
Well, might as well leave this here in case he comes back

>> No.69846003

>>69840810
From the threads I've seen there are at least 2 different leakers and then the clique coming to argue with them. It's the funniest shit to witness in real time

>> No.69846028

>>69845687
I'm sure it sucks being Elira now and I bet "What if I wasn't an evil cunt from the start" is going through her head.

>> No.69846055

>>69845934
ever since the 5th of February, all rrats about niji have become true until proven otherwise

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>>69844707

>> No.69846075

>>69845934
No. We will consider anything, but not believe as evident by you trying to peddle your bullshit here for weeks now.

>> No.69846080

Nijisanji's fall will be the Carboniferous rainforest collapse of vtubing.

>> No.69846094

>>69843064
Isn't it the other way around?
Isn't the EU anal about privacy and demands that, if a user wants his trace gone, it MUST be gone?

>> No.69846096

Speaking of Elira, just noticed something
>"good friend of Amano Pikamee"
>the part that mentions how Nina folded into
Wonder if between those two they convinced VShojo to stay completely silent on Niji affairs.

>> No.69846117

>>69836222
Hey anon, Doki bird here, shut the fuck up

>> No.69846129

>>69835162
Imagine wasting hundred of hours and all you can come up with is some schizo babble
Stop digging already, you are just wasting your time

>> No.69846161

>>69846117
>Doki bird

>> No.69846205

>>69846161
Doki the Bird

>> No.69846213

>>69844001
Its ok sister. Just go back to ur doxsite and seethe in peace.

>> No.69846220

>>69846094
No, if a person wants his tracing gone from a private company it must be gone from public viewing, but private companies are obliged to keep data for 2 years and provide it to government agencies on demand.

>> No.69846227

>>69846129
>one hour of posting shit on the 'chans
>hundred of hours
this is a falseflag right?

>> No.69846251

slumsaint is among us

>> No.69846253

>>69845402
People rag on him a lot for that, but that was like 12 years ago now.

>> No.69846266

>>69839652
PenTomos, are we back?

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>>69846227
ye it's bait

>> No.69846317

>>69846129
t. Enna's shadow

>> No.69846337

>>69846251
amogus

>> No.69846372

>>69846129

Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathetic narcissist. The only reason you share an existence on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioral mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike

>> No.69846393

>>69845875
Now I understand Niji's slogan that ivers are "just normal people, not idols"
Everyone's a sexpest, racist or bigot like if you look around IRL KEK

>> No.69846410

>>69843466
the "dramatuber" comment from Wilson makes SO MUCH sense now.
these poor idiots really bought into the clique's narrative.

>> No.69846433

>>69842223
Wouldn't it be funny if it was actually Vox? LMAO

>> No.69846463

>>69846028
Nah, she's been a bullying POS in her PL too

>> No.69846464

>>69846096
I've been telling the pink company was on Vshojo's side, but no one believes me.
I also believe Nijisanji's reach is much longer than most people are aware of and if you get blacklisted you'll be absolutely fucked. Sayu recently complained in her members about people still avoiding her, despite public opinion turning against Niji, and I'm sure it's because she's on a blacklist. Doki is currently riding high on the wave, but I'm sure in the long term (when numbers return to normal) the blacklist will fuck her too.

>> No.69846481

>>69846372
Enna posts this every time btw

>> No.69846495

>>69846433
I'm not going to bother re-reading it but isn't vox mostly absent from the OP

>> No.69846549

>>69846495
vox is way too much of a narcissist to care about doing this if it's not about him somehow

>> No.69846579

>>69838672
For a long while, we said that about Selen due to her battered wife syndrome constantly coping with all of their bullshit...

>> No.69846591

>>69835162
>"Uki is suspended, this is not speculative"
>streamed on bilibili that day
cmon man

>> No.69846624

>>69846410
Wilson is in the ''Chuunisanji'' FF guild together with the likes of Elira and Kyo, so it isn't that surprising.

>> No.69846646

>>69846591
>didnt watch the stream

>> No.69846684

>>69846646
NTA but who would, lmao

>> No.69846708

>>69846549
It could become about him retroactively.

>> No.69846757

>>69846129
Sigh... Enna....

>> No.69846761

>>69846591
>he watched Uki streams
yike

>> No.69846858

>>69846227
>doesn't get the joke

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I hate how these bad 4chan larps get so much attention. Niji, Holo, other vtubers, /pol/ shit, Blizzard leakers on the new World of Warcraft expansion or otherwise. It's always obvious bullshit There's not a single person who knows this much about every facet of the company/organization as these larps pretend.

Real leaks have sparse details. Individual people only know a couple things. A guy who knows everything about every employees opinions on [current event], their private talks with mangement, discussions between managers, yea fucking right. In literally no organization above 5 employees can one person know all this.

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>>69846372
>this kills the Ennaschizo/Enna

>> No.69846918

>>69845996
huh
they really like prepping the unofficial NDF

>> No.69846932

>>69846433
>>69846495
Leaker mentioned that Vox was under the impression that the whole conversation between Selen and him was given to lawyers instead of just a snippet, which seems to be why he threw Selen under the bus.
>>/vt/thread/69804931#p69829120

>> No.69846965

>>69846864
remember when someone leaked actual real shit on 4chan and was dismissed as fake and gay?

>> No.69846995

>>69846965
nope

>> No.69846997

>>69846864
His answers are obviously from his point of view and not at all holistic. Did you even read it?

>> No.69847033

>>69846864
we are in all rrats are real territory so you can just fuck off

>> No.69847040

>>69846864
Some are larps, some are foreshadowing of future events. What you want to believe is up to you.

>> No.69847045

>>69846965
Happens all the time, more often than not go unnoticed

>> No.69847074

Has anyone noticed that the leaker refuses to name names when it would damn that person, merely letting us come to conclusions on our own? Instead of saying "X murdered Y" it's "X and Y entered a room. There was a bang, X left the room and then Z walked in and saw Y's corpse."

>> No.69847137

>>69846997
Yes that's why I immediately can tell it's bullshit.

>> No.69847143

>>69846864
The leaker foreshadowed Niji using influencers to change public opinion, and it actually happened... even if it's just one influencer.

>> No.69847264

>https://youtu.be/TzkeKRhCtd4?t=4068
kiara absolutely knew how fucked niji management is

>> No.69847263

>>69847074
Yes, the biggest example of this is the conversation that happened here:
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69130917

>> No.69847284

>>69847143
yea and daph literally fucked it up

>> No.69847302

>>69847143
Guys making shit up about WoW expansions have guessed a feature actually in it before. That doesn't matter.

Luca's personal confidant, confirmed to actually have inside info, doesn't know remotely as much information as this dude. How do you think someone can actually acquire all this knowledge?

>> No.69847310

>>69847263
and that is how you get around the NDA

>> No.69847362

>>69847302
Because they are an organ, they literally state this.

>> No.69847384

>>69843637
If Fubuki left to keep making content as an indie like Coco, Vesper, and Magni people would take it as a red flag but if she left because she was just retiring entirely I don't think people would freak out.

I also think they'd try and keep her (among other prominent holomems) with the company even after retirement, even if it's just some kind of symbolic role where they don't actually do much other than show up to things every once in a while.

>> No.69847403

>>69838274
What about Ren? Hex? Yeah he’s a creep but he can communicate. Or one of the Krisis dudes?

The pool is shallow but it doesn’t end at Fulgur.

>> No.69847432

>>69847302
Razel was just a manager. This leaker on the other hand seems like could they could be an actual liver/talent.

>> No.69847489

>>69838274
>>69847403
It is easily Alban imho, he is quite isolated, tries unironically to become jp and is smart enough to selfstudy japanese at a rapid pace and skilled in rhythm games (skill in games is unironically an indication of high iq)

>> No.69847500

>>69847362
Organs don't have management level information about the inner workings of the company.
>>69847432
They could also be a liar.

>> No.69847501

>>69839988
Not from the main group, no. Unsure if he was familiar with any of them beforehand tho.

>> No.69847520

>>69847489
>skill in games is unironically an indication of high iq
Lmao

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