/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ye i know

This just shows how weak Niji really is now. Pekor barely streamed because she was sick and yet she still won. The other Holos haven't been steaming much as well because they are getting ready for Holofes. Yet they are still in the board.
Damn Niji has fallen hard.

>2 vshojo
>1 is a tranny
>0 holoen

>PEKORA BOUGHT A FUCKING MONKEY

A second one. After the first one died.

>>70300354
They need to stream in order for people to watch them

>>70299827
yo lets go mousey

>>70300354

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>>70299827
Ironmouse is the only good vtuber on this chart

>>70301033
fuck off freedom lady will always be good

>>70299827
wtf did migo stream to get such high watch time with only 14 hours?

>>70301114
literally anything

>>70300354
>>2 vshojo
"Sleep-bathon" twitch garbage

>>70301114
Bots.

>>70301033
vtuber is virtual "youtuber" anon

>>70301109
There's no freedom lady on the chart. If you mean miko then no she is not good.

>>70299827
By the way this only counts the gaming streams for YouTube chuubas but everything including sleeping streams from twitch.

>>70301273
proof?

>>70301326
It counts all streams on youtube. This has been proven several times.

Why is the noushitter numbermonkey seething at Miko?

>>70301149
I expected the FubuMikoAo stream to pop off, but I didn't expect the math stream to go so hard. It makes sense. That shit was funny as hell live.

>>70299827
What do Kuzuha and Kanae even do? FPS? That's it?

>>70301338
It's not possible to get that many watch hours by streaming that little.

>>70301370
Well prove it then.

>>70301440
That's a dumb take. You could stream for 1 hour with enough viewers and get the same watch time.

>>70301294
yeah and gay means happy. You're so gay anon.

>>70301440
with a simple division, you would find out that it means she had 31k average ccv or so which is perfectly reasonable for Miko
are you ok?

>>70301701
ccv is not relevant. It's hours streamed that really matters and what makes a good vtuber.

>>70301818
>ccv is not relevant
>It's hours streamed that really matters
anon
anon
the number is ccv x hours streamed
it absolutely matters

>>70301818
Are we talking about your ideal fantasy or reality?

>>70301450
All of the hours there add up to their streams over the past week except for Koyori who is 8 hours off for some reason and Miko is also missing one hour. Maybe it's because of streamcharts own timezone.

>>70301890
They don't count anything for members or unarchived.

>>70300144
This is just last week. She's definitely not topping the chart for the whole February since she's been out cold for most of the first half.

>>70302003
Now that's a cope. If you're not willing to stream to the public then your stream might as well not exist. It's also not like all the holowhores that don't make it to these lists have a ton of long streams for members only.

>>70302067
I'm just giving a plausible reason for the disparity. Who hurt you?

>>70302130
I just counted what's on their channel. Streamcharts is accurate and doesn't count only gaming streams.

>>70299827
>Ironlung can't even beat Koyori with Twitch made up numbers.
Embarassing.

>>70299827
where is doki? Dragoons our response? Is she already forgotten? I thought she was the #1 vtuber in the world now, thats what /HAHA/ told me. Wtf this is bullshit, how are nijis ahead of her, didn't we cancel them hard enough?

>>70301033
>vtuber
streaming on twitch

>>70299827
>this Numbers

>>70302315
She's still better than any jap vtrooner.

>>70299827
FOR THE LAST TIME IT’S A BUSHBABY

>>70302333

>>70299827

>>70302296
It's accurate for non-member, archived content. If that's the standard you want to use, that's fine. I'm just letting you know that it has a clear bias towards Twitch streamers.

>>70302451
No counting unarchived and membership streams is not bias. Unarchived streams are just a weird cope tactic to inflate ccv anyways.

streamscharts

only count gameon youtube
and everything on twitch

>>70299827
Don't let the fact that Pekora bought a monkey distract you from the fact that Gura, Ame, Ina and Kiara were in LA and bought a pizza with mushrooms and olives, despite the fact that Ame is intolerant to gluten, Ina and Gura are lactose intolerant, Gura doesn't like olives and Kiara hates mushrooms.

>>70302526
Holy shit THEY ARE

>>70302501
Unarchived streams are what YouTube streamers have to do to use copyrighted content. Twitch has a vod track and automatic vod muting.

>>70299827
>Subaru
Why? Nobody likes her

>>70302559
So the only reason why holo EN can't make it to these charts is because they keep doing unarchived streams with copyrighted content? Is this genuinely what you believe?

>>70302589
kek

>>70299827
Miko despite the lowest number of hours is still on top 3

Truly the real protag of vtubing a

>>70302613
Not at all. I'm saying that there's an inevitable bias towards Twitch if you exclude them from any calculation. Especially since Twitch content is so reliant on using copyrighted material.

>>70302697
Sounds like a skill issue.

>>70299827
So the monkey is the reason she stays on top?

>stream
>have people watch the stream
That's how it works. Hope this helps, HoloEN.

>>70302746
It sounds like a biased metric.

ok holofags i havent watched holos for years now. QRD why theres suddenly so much mikoschcizos around these days when everyone loved her years ago

>>70302879
>mikoschcizos
you mean froot?

>>70300354
Normally I hate when people act like hours watched & popularity aren't correlated but in this case it's important to point out because Twitch streamers will legit stream from the moment they wake up to the moment they go to sleep

>>70302879
She's finally surpassing the number rabbit and people are upset

>70303195
>Rabbit is first
>Rabbit finished #1 last year
I don't get it

>>70303195

>>70302803
It's not biased when no one on youtube is losing hundreds of hours of their streams because they're unarchived.

>>70300984
not like there's much else she can do trapped in her room forever.

>>70303339
They're losing thousands of hours of watch time.

>>70303426
They're not. Nobody that can make it to this list doesn't even do unarchived streams and your favorite holoEN doesn't have enough viewers to ever make it to the top 10.

>>70303195
oh of course its just numberchimps
ok thanks holofags you can continue flinging shit at each other

>>70303918
Most of the Holos on this list do members-only streams regularly. Also, multiple ENs have done unarchived streams this week.

>>70300144
It says on the chart how long she streamed for, only a couple of hours fewer than the Niji guys

>twitch and youtube on the same chart
what a waste of time

>>70304071
And those streams wouldn't make a difference. They're at best 2-3 hours worth of streams with low ccv. hololive is just not as popular as you think.

>>70304185
I wouldn't say 15k is low CCV.

>>70304214
Nobody is getting 15k ccv for membership streams.

>>70304185
>hololive is just not as popular as you think.

>>70304426
How come a ton of the supposedly popular hololive members never appear in these charts? It's not because their monthly membership stream was excluded.

>>70301402
bots

>>70304473
because they dont have to stream as much to survive

>>70301033
*unplugs you*

>>70304298
Fauna, Mumei, and IRyS each had unarchived streams this week hit over 15k CCV

>>70304473
Streaming two hours a day isn't going to get you on there charts unless you're at the very top like Miko

>>70304554
>>70304594
If they don't stream a lot then they're not popular.

>>70304662

>>70304662
I'm sure that makes sense in your head.

>>70304593
So do you genuinely believe that Fauna, Mumei, and IRyS are top 10 vtubers but just can't make it to the list because their unarchived streams were not counted?

>>70304775
For a week-long list? It's possible since Fauna and Mumei had a lot going on this week.

>>70299827
Fen. 22-28
but no Doki?
the gura killer salome?

>>70304773
You're literally arguing that they don't stream much just because they don't need to because they can survive by not streaming. Someone that's doing the bare minimum to survive is not someone that's popular.

>>70304881
define "popular" for me please

>>70301033
>he watches react streamers
lol, lmao

>>70299827
My oshi Asmonbald mogged all these retarded choobas with his retarded rants kek.

>>70304928
Someone that gets watched a lot ie. has a lot of hours watched.

>>70300144
>barely streamed
Her Elden Ring streams are like 10 hours each.

>>70305000

>>70304968

>>70302369
Don't think Zen is jap

>>70305133
Uhhh vshojo doko...?

>>70304825
It really is not possible.

>>70305133
Kek not even top 10. Even with farming retarded drama nonstop. Aint my oshi anymore.

>>70299827
Has Koyori given up on trying to out-stream Kaela?

>>70305236
Mumei comes pretty close

>>70305636
No she doesn't.

>>70305745
Do the math yourself. I'm not going to spoon-feed you.

Why is there a seething nijisissiy in here?

>>70305935
I did and she doesn't come close. No, her collab with Fauna did not get 60k ccv.

>>70305996
Do you adjust the numbers for everyone else then?

>>70304138
Yeah youtube is botted.

>>70306093
Who else is getting botted?

>>70299827
>4 Holo JP
>3 Niji JP
>2 Vshojo
>1 Indie JP
Holo EN doko?

>>70306130
So you don't? Why would you selectively adjust the numbers without applying it consistently?

>>70306198
I asked you who else is getting botted. Why can't you answer?

>>70306150
>don’t stream
>simps keep donating enough to let you live off a six figure income
I wouldn’t stream either.

>>70306292
Everyone on the list. Including Mouse.

>>70303008
That's not enough, you need to have the ccv that goes with it. Hours watched is just avg ccv x stream hours.
Some Holos like Kyori do it, Kuzuha and Kanae do it too on two different platforms. It's two different cultures.
YT viwerscall a 7 horus stream "a marathon"...

>>70306150
doki doko?

>>70303008
>up to the moment they go to sleep
Ironmouse: lol. Lmao even

>>70306335
It's worse with Twitch because they stream for so long and raid into each other.

>>70306371
Depends on the streamer. A 7 hour Koyo/Koro/Peko stream is just called a stream.

>>70306335
No they're not and especially not in the way Mumei is getting botted.

>>70306371
>you need to have the ccv that goes with that. Hours watched is just avg ccv x stream hours.
Yes, I know, that's what I fucking said. The Vshojo girls will stream 14 hours a day, HoloEn 14 hours a week would be considered a lot. Hell, Miko & Subaru are at ~14 hours. So if the metric is hours watched obviously the Vshojos will win by a mile.

>>70303008
They are not correlated. Streaming more does not make you more popular.

>>70307100
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/streams/50486062189
https://twitchtracker.com/zentreya/streams/50460507949

>>70300354
seethe

>>70307143
I said hours watched not hours streamed, there are a finite number of hours in a week so high hours watched obviously requires the CCV to match, it's just unreliable when comparing popularity of those who stream constantly to those who rarely stream.

>>70301402
Have gay sex on stream

>>70300354
Both Ironlung and Zentranny are botted as fuck.
Despite how well known it is, live-treaming is still pretty niche in the West.

>>70299827
These charts are always so fake and gay.
Why youtube gaming specifically? Why not just youtube in general? You either do a thorough ranking or you dont at all.
Also shit is corrupt, holomen are suppressed in the algo, many viewers are not counted properly, what's the point? Who are you trying to fool?

>>70307140
Also both platform users are bent to play the algorithm game. Twitch encourages long streaming hours whereas YT doesn't. You'll find Vtubers like grasped perfectly this and started uploading short streams and short videos.

>>70307277
Popularity is far more tied to number of viewers than it is to hours streamed.

>>70307212
Where's the botting here?
>>70307333
Insanely delusional take. Everyone & their mom wants to be a livestreamer. Literally, my sister's mom was a Twitch streamer for a while. Every kid says they want to be an influencer when they grow up. Streaming is enormous.
>>70307454
You are retarded. They're not on the chart because it's hours watched, not viewership, there's no "corruption" involved just an unfavorable metric.

>>70301440
Welcome to hololive sister. Where our ccv is 10x the ccv of your oshi on a normal day.

>>70307622
Can you not read fucking English, that's what I said. Hours WATCHED indicates popularity but not as well as CCV

>>70307647
Oh, you're delusional? My bad, carry on.

>>70307709
You write like an angry ESL. What are you so mad at?

>>70301440
qtcinderella had something like a million watch hours last week alone and it was almost entirely from a single event that peaked at 300k viewers.

all the streamer has to do is stream to get on this chart if they're reasonably popular kek, what's all the seething about? if your oshi doesn't stream regularly for long hours then they aren't here, simple.

>>70301326
Good thing none of the Twitch vtubers on the chart did any sleeping streams then.

>>70307647
>twitch streams aren't botted
Kek

>>70307333
They both have subscriber counts close to CCV. Why the fuck would you pay to have that and bots for someone if they're unpopular?

>>70307971
Twitch streams are botted, the 2 channels anon linked metric for aren't botted.

>>70307986
Who says that they're the ones who bot it? HoloEN gets botted by /here/fags.

bot this
bot that
how about you niggas get on helldivers and start fighting against the bots? they're pushing us back AGAIN and I'm SICK of it

>>70308024
You think this is normal?
https://twitchtracker.com/zentreya/streams/50460507949

>>70308117
Yes, he went get lunch @ 12:10 & left the stream running so his viewers clicked something else in the sidebar, this is how Twitch works.

>>70308117
anon that stream literally died at the moment the ccv dipped sharply, you can see when you check for the VOD's that it's split into two from before and after the stream died for a short while

>>70308117
NTA but that looks perfectly normal to me.
The dip at the beginning was because the stream crashed, as shown by two vods being available

>>70308050
Then I guess they are popular enough to make bank. That's winning in my book

>>70308180
or what these 2 said
>>70308197
>>70308215
point is Twitch viewers are ADHD teenagers and click off the moment they aren't constantly stimulated

>>70307212
This isn't what botting looks like btw. The mouse rises and falls are not stable enough to be botting and more likely small or medium sized raids coming in and leaving or just general viewership changes. The Zen one looks a lot wackier, but the massive dip in the beginning is much more consistent with a stream temporarily disconnecting and considering the rise back after is slow and not nearly as sharp that makes the most sense.

>>70299827
can someone explain the monkey meme

>>70307277
Hours watched is literally nothing but hours streamed multiplied with ccv. CCV is the only thing that determines popularity.

>>70308321
Wait I forgot Twitch Tracker actually combines the vods if there's a disconnect and yes that's exactly what happens. Twitch Tracker says the stream went down at 1:37 and that's about exactly when the massive dip in viewership happened. Simple as.

>>70307709
>Hours WATCHED indicates popularity
No it doesn't. Hours are irrelevant.

>>70307212
Why are registered users above total viewers sometimes? Makes no sense.

>>70308321
Why does the wave pattern happen? Are bots getting timed out?

>>70308291
No Twitch actually disconnects you from the stream automatically when there's a stream crash which is why those dips show up that way. You have to either refresh the player or refresh the page to get the stream back.

>>70307140
>HoloEn 14 hours a week would be considered a lot.
Whose fault is that? Nothing stops HoloEN members streaming more

>>70300354
This might be a controversial take /here/ but I genuinely don't care about trannies as long as they don't make absolutely everything they do/talk about the fact that they're trans.

>>70308584
Small wave patterns are completely normal and to be expected. Bart Simpson wave patterns are not normal and signs of botting. This is a botted wave.

>>70308365
>>70308434
Did you drop out of high school? What the fuck do you get when you divide hours watched by hours streamed? You get an average CCV. You can not have high hours watched without a strong CCV because there is a finite amount of fucking hours in a day.
>>70308606
No one's fault because hours watched isn't an important metric compared to CCV, they don't need to be on OP's chart

>>70308681
It's a joke. They're not a tranny. Just a hetero man playing a female vtuber

>>70308713
Do you know why that "Bart Simpson wave" happens?

>>70308520
Yellow line is being sampled from the users present in chat
Green line is tracking the viewcount.
On a crash, what you see is likely the difference in caching/sampling between the two metrics.

>>70308728
>No one's fault because hours watched isn't an important metri
It is you're just coping because it exposes how lazy EN is. Getting 15k twice a month is less impressive than getting 10k every day

>>70308728
And hours watched is still not an indicator of popularity, CCV is. You're the one who seems to have dropped out of high school.

>>70308713
>>70308835(me)
I want to know how botting would cause that behavior before considering it to be indicative of botting.

>>70308944
I don't care how popular a vtuber is if they don't put out any content. Gura is a non-entity to me

>>70307971
I don't think you know what's a bot...

>>70303008
Yeah I love hearing people say
>She's such a lazy streamer
Meanwhile

>>70309103
You think people leaving the tab muted and minimized should count?

>>70308993
I don't know how bots work so I don't know why they cause that pattern. I'd say what's more important is finding literally any legitimate reason for a chart to look like that, and there isn't any. Sometimes a big raid will come in and spike viewers, and if they leave immediately after that could lead to a single spike like that. For the Bart Simpson wave to be legit Fuwamoco would have needed to get huge raids consistently every 10 minutes, and in every single one of those raids all the viewers added would have to immediately dip out. Then conclude all of that with a stream crash or something so it returns to a more normal and stable number for the latter half of the stream.

The Ironmouse chart is a good example of what big raids actually look like though. She gets one just before the 10 hour mark and another one at about 12:45. Big spikes up, followed by a smaller spike down.

>>70308838
>On a crash
I used that dip because it was the most evident spot but users are pretty consistently above throughout the whole stream.
Happens in other streams too. I don't get why that's a thing.
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/streams/42315090441
This is the twitch streamer I usually watch and his ratio seems more believable.
https://twitchtracker.com/tomato/streams/50508772141

>>70309103
No look see it's TOTALLY botted. Nightbot and streamelements are in every stream on twitch gg btfo

>>70309397
The only thing I could think of is a botter turning them on and off constantly. But that means it's not a useful visual for looking at any other bot behavior.

>>70309660
It's consistent among botted streams though. If you want to argue it's not a good piece of evidence then that's fine, but then it means there's no way of knowing and you're throwing out blind accusations.

>>70301326
>>70301370
Is Twitch's fault for allowing bathtub and sleeping streams on the gaming category also OP posted Streamscharts who are Vtuber friendly unlike Stream Hatchet that puts them in a different category because the 3DPD girls complained about it.

>>70309843
The stream category doesn't even matter because these charts don't check how much of what was streamed and just counts them whole.

>>70309798
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the Bart Simpson behavior might not be happening in most cases of botting. It might just be someone making it obvious. But how do we tell if there's botting without someone making it obvious?

>>70299827
>meme watch hours

>>70299827
kek twitchfags say their views are TECHNICALLY not botted
>>70307971

>>70310978
It's kinda crazy how Aki went from the most literally who in Holo (arguably more than Mel and Roboco) to kind of a powerhouse. Glad for her.

>>70300354
i thought zentreya wasn't a tranny and was just a normal dude

>>70312951
Everyone's a tranny when you don't like them.

>>70299827
>only 3 streamed for 40 hours or more
why are chuubas so fucking lazy honestly

>>70314740
Why would anyone need to stream that much? Normal people do not consume 40 hours of content weekly.

why's shiishii so high

>>70314812
do normal people watch vtubers

>>70300354
>tranny
Not even, literally just a dude who's been pretending for years now. I was there in the vrchat days before it was vtubing in the west. The tranny shit is just a defense for when the community was raging about the time he got his gf on mic to pretend to be him after talking in voice multiple times with his normal voice and getting called out. That said I find it hilarious how far he's gotten, I respect the hustle and shamelessness.

>>70315393
He would be so much better without the TTS.

>>70315393
>just a dude who's been pretending for years now
so a tranny

>>70299827
Why are almost all of them Japanese? Japan is a tiny-ass country compared to the english-speaking world.

>>70317516
>Why are the most successful vtubers Japanese when it started in Japan and there were many western fans before any EN chuubas - some that won't watch EN vtubers even now.
I wonder why?

>>70302333
clearly it's fake news, Doki is the top streamer, anyone who says otherwise is a bigot and encourages self-harm!

>>70302333
>>70318863
Didn't get enough (you)s so you decided to samefag? Kek

>>70318863
she dosent do marathon streams like all the vtubers on this list

>>70302333
When have you seen her stream for more than 5hrs anon?

>>70319426
nijiseethe sister

>>70320675
I can't tell whether you're retarded or just don't know what that phrase means. Probably both.

>>70307143
cope

>>70308321
>>70308713
dumbass that botter pays for the cheapest bots on purpose to be >caught and then sperg about it pretending not be xhim the source of it, and thats also why they turn it on and off in the middle of it
https://www.vstats.jp/video/9JscUWBOIt8
here is someone using or testing or whatever some more expensive bot on kuzuha: it turns on, stays on a stable high plateau with no waves for 10 minutes, and then it is turned back off

>>70299827
When is a smol corpo breaking into this region?

>>70307647
Retard

>>70321919
cope harder Enna

>>70329679
So you are actually retarded or just baiting. Maybe just incapable of understanding a civilised language. My reply is very clearly against kurosanji.

>>70315393
>born as male
>choose to act as female, use big boobs and text to speech as female for easy bucks.
until proven otherwise, yes he is a tranny.

>>70299827
What was the point of this?

>>70308993
it's the calling card of the resident botter, to make sure everyone knows it's him, like the Zorro's Z, he's that much of an idiot

>>70299827
I think it's important to distinguish between YouTube and Twitch for these charts. Didn't Mouse delete her YouTube stream attempts because of low numbers?

>>70310978
>Pekora losing to a literal monkey
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>70312391
She's still a literally who. The people that watched her during that time weren't there to see her for her but the streamer server.

>>70317303
Those pics are the best to come out of Noombas.

>>70300144
>barely
i will fuck you up dont talk so little of my retarded bunny

>>70312391
Retardo.

>>70305133
surprised?

>>70312391
It mostly means nothing because these people don't donate or come to watch her usual content, there was basically no increase in her 3d live viewership it's the same holoaudiance watching and donating.
That said I am not mad at her for doing VCR, I really don't care. But you retards need to stop pretending that Holos can do well outside of Hololives box, it's damaging to their carriers in long term, and it should never become their main content.
Laplus is the lowest earning member dispite being shilled hard by cover and having all skills for success, towas numbers are mediocre when she is doing things not with Hololive. The person who is the strongest without holobox is Suisei but she is just built different.
VCR shit is damaging to hololive as a whole if more holos start to do it, just look at NijiJPs viewership tumbling down after they went all out in participating in every tournament.
There is a reason why agency culture works, you need to keep the viewership withn the agency so every member can benefit from it.

pego