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Is Gura depressed because she didn't think she would get far and is now burdened with large expectations? Maybe she also feels guilty for surpassing her senpai and feels undeserving.

Poor Gura.

>> No.707642

>>707615
rrat

>> No.707666

She needs to at least show that you don't commission a flat character. Even just slight booba will spare you from the memes.

>> No.707683
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707683

She sounds pretty bored most of her streams, and I feel like a lot of her fans treat her as a character to be laughed at instead of a person with an animated shark avatar. It makes me sad, I hope her members are good to her in member-only streams

>> No.707702

>>707615
She miss her days of drunk streaming

>> No.707741

>>707615
I think she actually feels guilty about surpassing her senpai with little effort. She did that entire karaoke stream where she only sang the original songs of her senpai and made sure to repeat how amazing they are.

>> No.707808

>>707615
Lots of imposter syndrome guilt weighing on her and rules from EnMa that are too restrictive on her. Maybe Gura feels that if she can't collab with Coco then she'd feel bad for collabing with any JP.

>> No.707812

>>707741
Do her senpais like her though?

>> No.707858

>>707683
this, the dum shark memes make me sad

>> No.707875

>>707812
I don't think anyone IN HOLOLIVE JP AND ID. Are petty enough to resent her for being successful.

>> No.707886

>>707858
She is pretty dumb though, either that or she drinks.

>> No.707903

>tfw she used to get excited over a measly 6k subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DunLlTMiITc

>> No.708084

>>707812
I think they generally respect her. They don't talk to Gura often though because she doesn't speak any Japanese. The JP girls are probably shy and uncomfortable sending messages in English because of how easy it is to sound rude and use words with hidden meanings.

Anyone who says they hate on Gura for her sub count are shitposting rrats.

>> No.708138

>>707666
>constantly lets her fans know how fucking annoying it is
>they continue anyway

>> No.708373

>>707615
can't wait for her to get drunk and for HER to return

>> No.708484

>>708373
I, too, am waiting for the newest episode of the LPS series.

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708486

>>707858
>>707683
Do you fucks watch the streams? Her papers please stream was peak retardkino

>> No.708518

>>708486
And it was hilarious.

>> No.708547

>>707903
This was hard to watch, apart from her songs the rest of her content was trash.

>> No.708601

>>707812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBdAjZgeZDo

>> No.708717

>>707615
She was always depressed and just used the cynical ironic meme humor as a cover

>> No.708772

>>708138
>bring attention to the fact that something annoys you on the internet
>surprised when people on the internet continue to do said thing
If it really does annoy her it's her own fault for being stupid.

>> No.708773

>a vtuber isn't playing out the rrat developed in my insane mind
Is she depressed? Is she guilty? Is she bored? She sounds bored. Is she suicidal? Necking stream when?

>> No.708844

>>708138
It's just a thing that comes with the territory. Play along or ignore it, but it's not going to stop.

>> No.708894

>>707615
Nah, she's autistic.
How else can you explain the 20-minute (almost completely) silent sand vacuuming party?

>> No.708952

>>707615
>is this vtuber depressed
if you have to ask, yes

>> No.709138

>>708601
Her and Gura don't get along. It's all bullshit. Here's what happened, there was a big new years party, before actual new years, all the Holos we're flowed in, it was supposed to be a big celebration thing, because of all the succes that year. Gura got drunk and she git a little handsy with a guy there, they ended up going to a love hotel, turns out that guy was Shion's fiance, they had been some problems in the relationship they were working at, but then Gura came in all drunk and fucked Shions to be husband. Next morning she went to confront them, slapped Gura in the face, called her a whore and broke up with her fiance on the spot and ran away, the fiance called Gura a whore too and blamed her for breaking up his yet to be marriage. She went back to the room and got drunk again and cried. That video is just management trying to create a fake narrative to make sure fans think they are ok with each other. Gura isn't doing great because after that all the jp holos treated her differently, one of them even went up to her and told her "dont send me collab invites, i don't wanna collab with prostitutes", this made Gura cry again. She feels terrible about it but its not like she can take it back. It's also why you wont see much Gura/Jp collabs. The EN holos are trying to just not talk about it but its awkward as fuck. Shion is still heartbroken about it, and some of the JP holos have become good friends and a shoulder to cry on over this whole mess. In the Jp, in private convos they don't even say gura anymore, they just "shark whore". Anyway that's what i heard. Lots of drama.

>> No.709179

>>709138
Meds.

>> No.709185

Chumchad here Gura is just disappointed and bored she has no competition

>> No.709236

>>709138
Based.

>> No.709278

>>707683
>>707615
I said this before and I’ll say it again. She is in a tough spot. In the beginning she was carried heavily by her shark avatar. Then with her beat skills and singing abilities it skyrocketed her.

At this point anyone could see that you have something special her and I would think from her past experience she would fill in the role as head EN but it is as if she resents the attention.

She now needs to be careful about how she interacts with chat and set clear boundaries so she can form a chat she wants, similar to ina and unlike Ame who gave into the shitposting crowd and has nothing but shitposts in her streams.

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709279

>>709138
Repent

>> No.709288

>>709138
This rrat is too weak

>> No.709300

>>709138
this rrat i can fap to

>> No.709411

>>709138
elder god rrat

>> No.709454

>>707615
hey op
>>708084
>They don't talk to Gura often though because she doesn't speak any Japanese.
this is probably the issue. i get the impression having other v-tubers to work and talk with in a close manner is a massive part of hololive's success. if you're an indie it's an ad-hoc series of relationships that can fall at any moment, but hololive offers a sort of permenance...

i know that my office, during the pandemic, was a massive savior of my mental health. there was something so nice about coming in everyday to faces i knew. despite what one expects, it's that you don't pick your coworkers which makes it feel so good -- finding such a diverse set of relationships in one place is such a cool experience; people you'd never talk to and relationships you'd never have organically.

>> No.709471

>>709278
>unlike Ame who gave into the shitposting crowd and has nothing but shitposts in her streams.
Is this bad

>> No.709491

>>709138
So under and over on whether this could actually happen

>> No.709496

>>709288
>>709300
Le duality of man

>> No.709680

>>709471
>Is this bad
Yes when she gets goaded into having a fit. If you’re familiar with the term low-cow it always starts off as memes and jokes. Till cow or the farms catch wind of your shit fits. Low-cows never have a happy ending.

Only exemption is DSP who could get away with murdering someone in board daylight in the middle of a courtroom

>> No.709684

>>707615
I know OP is spinning gay rrats but still can we get a Gen2 that is has actual leadership skills? An alpha-female, goddess-empress, who handle being number one, and cant be burdened down.

>> No.709758

>>709491
There is real chance some sort of sex scandal happens at hololive within the next two years. A bunch of women, together, some drama is gonna come up eventually. One of them fucking another ones boyfriend is not out of the realm of possibility

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709794

>>709684
>Western woman
>Leader

>> No.709845

>>709279
rrat writing is the future of this board anon. You know it, i know it.

>> No.709848
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>>707903
I don't enjoy much of her current content but this channel is pure kino. Just a silly girl doing meme videos. Infinitely better than 3 hour minecraft streams where she tardwrangles her massive chat.

>> No.709875

>>709684
Yagoo only recruits broken girls for hololive, this is why they are so popular

>> No.709880

>>709758
Or better yet
>marine fucks dancho then flare finds out.

>> No.709884

>>709684
Vtubers need to stay autonomous, otherwise you will end up alone and isolated like Sora

>> No.709966

>>709884
Why is Sora so alone and why is her model never updated?

>> No.709975

>>709758
>Drama between a bunch of menheras
Boy i hope the bloodbath will be glorious

>> No.710028 [DELETED] 

>>709138
i see, thank you annon, i knew she was a bitch when she let her Super Alpha CHAD Jay cuck all the chumbuds.
https://streamable.com/qs7yvz
But i never knew she was such a shameless whore

>> No.710162

>>709138
i am the big rrat who makes all of the rules

>> No.710231

>>709794
Military or athlete roommates are strong enough to handle such a position

>> No.710276

>>709975
>random holo collab
>its going well
>one of them gets quiet
>says "why did you fuck my boyfriend senpai, i loved him so much why......" Out of nowhere
>"can we talk about thus after the stre..."
>"WHY DID YOU FUCK HIM WHY WHY WHY WHY" *starts crying louder and louder"
>chat goea crazy
>clippers make enough ad revenue to buy a house
Gonna happen eventually. It's not like this girls dont cry or air out dirty laundry on stream from time to time. Its gonna be kino.

>> No.710315

>>709880
Marine is a total virgin the only thing she's fucking is her zun body pillow.
If it ever happens it's going to be a menhera like Polka. Mark my words.

>> No.710409

>>709880
or even better:
>Marine bitch breaks Flare and Danchou finds out

>> No.710477

>>710276
Somethings tells me Matsuri is going to be the one to bring issues up

>> No.710524

i'd be upset too if I was running a stream that is essentially a daycare for man-children, but shit pays the bills

>> No.710650

>>710276
>air out dirty laundry on stream
name 3 times this has happened and not as a joke.

>> No.710786

>>710524
Imagine being an almost 30 year old women and you make a living pretending to be an anime shark and making cute voices for autistic man who throw tips at you while everyone pretends (badly) they aren't lusting after you. I think being a stripper would be easier to explain, and maybe also more dignified.

Now Amelia, that's the vtuber for the modern working man. One can proudly say they are an Amelia fan.

>> No.710817

>>710786
>almost 30 year old women
But that Korone

>> No.710877

>>710524
She doesn't HAVE to pander to children. I thought the whole point of the reincarnation was to get away from that, not reduce the target demographic by three years.

>> No.710987

>>710817
>korone
>almost 30
Anon i........

>> No.711025

>>710786
I don't hate teammates, but man, some of you fuckers really seem to want me too.

t. takodachi

>> No.711091

>>711025
>>710786
nice falseflag

>> No.711111

Gura cute.

>> No.711146

>>711111
>11111
yes, gurabro

>> No.711196

>>710817
Anon, Korone is on her late 30s. She's a total cute BBA

>> No.711254

>>707615
>depressed
Relatable if so, but I hope not...
>the expectations
It'll be rough to start, but I hope that if she just does whatever the fuck she wants for long enough people will get used to it, at least in the community. As to if there's pressure from management: who fucking knows. I'm sure she gets a bunch of bullshit "y u no collab and help low subcount" from dickheads in the community but they are all pepega. Hololive is doing better than ever and they will all be perfectly fine without her boosting them.
>feels guilty... and undeserving
Impostor syndrome is miserable. I can relate. She's creative, funny, cute, sweet.... I could go on. She deserves every bit of her success and I hope from the bottom of my heart that she knows it, at least on some level, even if it can be hard to accept.

>>707683
I'm too autistic to tell if someone is bored, but I can't agree more about the second part. There's a real person behind these goddamn anime faces... like I thought we cared about these girls and wanted to see them do well? but sometimes it feels like the streams can turn into the digital equivalent of a dunk tank with everyone just frothing at the mouth begging for the next fail to lul at. I love them so much and seeing them treated this way hurts my fucking heart.

>> No.711284
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>>710786
>Make a fortune
>Secure yours and your family's future
>Retire
She's living the dream. She just has to endure it.

>> No.711320

>>710315
>Polka
But she was already rich what more could she want?

>> No.711359

>>710786
>almost 30 year old women
According to who?

>> No.711431

>>711284
How much do vtubers make...

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>>710786
GEE I WONDER WHO COULD BE BEHIND THIS POST

>> No.711595 [DELETED] 

>>711359
According to rrats who did too many reps and started at the abyss a little too long. Its better to be ignorant anon, before you end up asking about shit like korones roomate messy divorce and hardships of motherhood or guras roomate french erotic self insert fan ficition she wrote.

>> No.711607

>>711431
Between fifty to Hundreds of thousands. Polka’s old vtuber personal netted her 700,000k

>> No.711649

>>711607
In what time frame. That's not nearly enough to retire on, at least in the US

>> No.711658 [DELETED] 

>>711595
I dont care about dog. Not a huge fan of her singling holos out in colabs.

>> No.711705

>>711649
>Buy a few houses
>Live off rent
Ta daaaah

>> No.711710

>>709884
>otherwise you will end up alone and isolated like Sora
What did he mean by this?

>> No.711812

>>711649
>That's not nearly enough to retire on, at least in the US
Average home in PA is 150,000k. Average Airbnb in PA is $150 a day. Buy three homes and Airbnb them out all year. That is nearly $50k per home per year anon. 700k is a lot of money.

>> No.711838

Must be depressing to be appreciated only for your dumb 2d gamer girl persona.

>> No.711876

>>711607
Gura made 500mil as HER.

>> No.712036

>>711812
>airbnb
bro it's gonna be years before the tourist industry recovers, I doubt any of those holdings would see regular enough usage to meet those numbers... nice to see a fellow PA anon tho lol

>> No.712232

>>711705
>>711812
150k per year, but that implies you have clients and your 150k house is actually worth renting and you don't require any sort of living space for yourself, have all medical expenses, car and gas, taxes, etc taken care of. You'd end up with maybe 40k/year if you're lucky and in serious debt if you aren't. Definitely far off from >Make a fortune
>Secure yours and your family's future
>Retire

>> No.712438

>>712036
>see regular enough usage to meet those numbers
Yup I am assuming quite a bit but you can see the potential of what 700k can open you up to.
I have a feeling the tourist industry for specific locations is going to boom. Areas known for rock climbing, for example, have seen an uptick in google searches over this past year. Now that is not enough to completely warrant buying multiple properties but it is a sign that folks are getting antsy, just looking for a way to get out of the home. It might be ample opportunity to cash in on the home trapped millennials. While it lasts.
>pa anon
And you are based

>> No.714883

>>711838
Only Ame can bring her happiness now.

>> No.716474

>>707875
pretty sure deep in their hearts, they envy her as they put waaay more time and effort for years, just to see someone pass them like it's nothing for such a short time.

>> No.716733

>>709138
can confirm, Goorah fucked me so hard i started to hate Shion. Yes she is a massive whore. I need more shark cunny

>> No.717828

>>707875
>I don't think anyone IN HOLOLIVE JP AND ID. Are petty enough to resent her for being successful.
Spoken like somebody who has no idea how the female mind works.

>> No.717871

>>709138
Wow, the chink trolls have really upped their game.
How many social credit good boy points did you get for this one, chang?

>> No.717940

She got her 3D model updated recently

>>710786
Don't include Amelia next time, it gives it away.

>> No.718054

>>717828
Have sex

>> No.718298

>>718054
>I understand women, therefore I'm a virgin
Tranny logic at its finest.
kys faggot.

>> No.718300

>>710786
pissmates never hate on gura, close but no cigar pogfart

>> No.718519

>>718300
Exactly.
AmeSame for life.

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718569

If you watch the old senzawa streams she's literally a depressed alcoholic who was relying on alcohol to put out content. She has said that she's happier than she once was on a gawrgura stream.

>> No.719718

never been on these boards before, what is "rrat" supposed to mean?

>> No.720072

>>717940
What do you mean by her 3D model updated? Did I miss something?

>> No.720084

>>709138
Is this a troll??

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>>709138

>> No.721659
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721659

Somebody make shark fin soup out of this bitch.

>> No.721763

>>718298
Have sex

>> No.721806

>>710786
>insulting your oshi's abused wife

>> No.721852

>>709138
Your copypasta will make a fine addition to my collection.

>> No.721874

>>721659
Why tho?

>> No.722119

>>719718
lurk moar

>> No.722404

>>709680
fuck is a low-cow, man

>> No.722467

>>722404
They are lol cows

>> No.722482

>>722467
now that makes sense brother

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>>707615
She's bummed because Enma is a bitch that doesn't ler her collab with Coco, even though Gura sang judgement for her.

>> No.723131

>>710786
t.Old hag

>> No.723171

>>710817
Korone is old enough to be your grandma

>> No.723316

>>709138
I can't tell if this is someone creating a copypasta or if it's a chink being serious because of the ESL Engrish.

>> No.723450

>>722119
So you don't know?

>> No.723538

>>709794
Yes. Demure Jap girls fear the white AMAZON warrior

>> No.723589 [DELETED] 

>>711595
>fan ficition she wrote

>> No.723639

>>723450
No seriously, just read the board to get the idea. a person who is talking shit out of their ass about VTuber, and claiming it's totally legit.

>> No.723833

>>723639
See, anon? Giving the man the answer wasn't that hard, was it?

>> No.723874

>>723450
used to be called "narratives" on the old /jp/ threads, ie. stories anons make up about vtubers either for fun or to communicate to others what the voices in their head told them.

got shorted to rrat ("naRRATive") somewhere along the way as a play on the pekora "ogey rrat" meme.

>> No.723895

>>709680
When is DSP doing his vtuber debut? Ack Ack

>> No.723915

>>707666
>Booba
Go back, faggot

>> No.723954

>>707615
So this is the Gura rrat thread?

>> No.724031

>>709138
What the fuck am I reading?

>> No.724064

I love Gura
She's cute and she likes junk food of which she eats copious amounts
All you faggots who don't like her can see yourselves to the door

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>>711607
Kek not really. You need 1 million to 3 million to retire on. You have to constantly keep investing to stave off inflation. But, you also need multiple streams of income if you want to not run the risk of having to find a job after not working for years.

I have almost 300k in the stock market and I only make like 15k off dividends.

>> No.724503

>>724145
>the risk of having to find a job after not working for years.
Imagine being an idiot who doesn't have a regular job just as a safety precaution.

>> No.724573

>>707615
in my opinion she wants more than she does right now. She mentioned once she would love to do short non-streams videos. So she may stop giving a fuck is pans won't stop with flat jokes and "dum" jokes, and make up something new non-offensive. look at Kiara fandom instead of laughing at them. You might learn something new.

>> No.724671

>>723895
Knowing him, he'd just fuck up and broadcast himself jerking off.
Again.

>> No.724693

>>721763
Repeating something retarded doesn't make it less retarded.
Retard.

>> No.725076

>>724503
Yeah, even when I retire in my 30's/40's I'm just gonna work something part time.

>> No.725228

>>711254
>I thought we cared about these girls and wanted to see them do well? but sometimes it feels like the streams can turn into the digital equivalent of a dunk tank with everyone just frothing at the mouth begging for the next fail to lul at
I think that's the difference between EN viewers and JP viewers, at least when it comes to hololive streamers. Hololive EN seems to attract the twitch kids that live on livestreamfails and think that it's cringe to be anything other than sarcastic and edgy online. Seems like ina, kiara, and calli to an extent have shook some of those viewers off but gura and ame have been cursed with the fact that they are entertaining to those types of viewers

>> No.726696

>>708084

>The JP girls are probably shy and uncomfortable sending messages in English

That's true. Most of jp holomems are bad at English even in the low Japanese standard. Marine is a top notch ina bad way.

The reason is the girls were mostly
dropouts or hikikomoris who went into Otaku culture that they seem to had not been so eager to study at school.

>> No.727681

>>709138
This is my favourite rrat of all time. It's fake, so obviously, self-evidently fake, yet there are so many little intricacies that make it fascinating. Why did the author feel the need to add irrelevant details like how the New Years party didn't really take place on New Years, but a bit before? If they went to this effort to "worldbuild" their narrative, why didn't they explain away all the immediately obvious plotholes in the story, like how Gura can't speak japanese? This rrat is a stream of tiny details that individually almost make sense, but not when added together, kind of like an AI-generated story or a dream. Add the broken English and I think this has the potential to be a real work of art.

>> No.727710

>>727681
based rrat critique

>> No.727737

>>707886
Gura is pretty clearly smart but burdened by ADHD and maybe some actual (not internet version) autism.
Wish I knew what her first language is. She has too many vocab gaps for it to be English.

>> No.728065

>>719718
naRRATive

>> No.728693

>>707615
She's depressed because she's lazy and being contractually obligated to work three days a week is too much.

>> No.728716

>>707683
>it's not a character when it's convenient
>it is a character when it's convenient

>> No.729191

>>723874
Is this the point where I ask what the 'ogey rrat' meme is? I've seen it a lot, but haven't figured it out yet.

>> No.729241

>>707666
>>708138
She's just playing along. It's not like its really her body, and its fun to tease her about it. If she really didn't like it she would ignore it, but instead she highlights it and turns it into a comedy bit at every opportunity which encourages her viewers to do it more.

Also she better be fucking flat. "Loli shark" is her defining tag at this point. It would be a huge disappointment if she wasn't.

>> No.729252

>>729191
I'll spoon feed you just this once. Be grateful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacN1MzyeKo

>> No.729287

>>727737
Pretty sure her first language is tagalog

>> No.729420

>>724145

Anon. Please tell me what you invested in. I could use some fixed income.

>> No.729478

>>729252
Oh, that's cute, not that I should have expected differently. Interesting that it caught on so much as a meme, though.
Thank you, anon.

>> No.729499

>>729241
Yeah, it's clear she just does a slightly exasperated eyeroll, she's not actually all that mad about it.

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>>707683
>I feel like a lot of her fans treat her as a character to be laughed at
The entire point of the performance.
>instead of a person with an animated shark avatar
Never shown on screen.
Part of Gura's schtick is that the character is a bit thick. Not dumb, not stupid, just a little bit slower to grasp what is going on is all. If anything it's endearing.

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729617

>>710786
The seethe is real

>> No.729732

>hasn't tweeted in 24 hours
she went and fucking killed herself

>> No.729874
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>>727681
>>727710
>we are now seeing literature-level critique on a board dedicated to Youtube anime girls

>> No.730613

>>724145
You are brain dead kek

>> No.730667
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>>723895
>>724671
>calls the audience members detractors
>karaoke streams are full of complaints, cannot sing certain songs because they have bad song design
>references to past street fighter wins but never plays it
He would be too powerful

>> No.732520

>>720084
It's always a troll on here.

Even when they are telling pure truth it's a troll.

>> No.732651
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>Six fucking Gura anti threads
Why though? She keeps to herself, barely doing any collabs and doesn't cause any drama.
I don't get why all the hate for someone who does everything she can to not rock the boat, just stream and has fun with her fans.

>> No.732808

>>732651
She makes numberfags seethe because not only she surpased their oshi but also proved that all their numberfaggery is completely pointless when anyone can go viral from just tweeting a single letter

>> No.732825

>>732651
she hit 2m and people cant get over it.

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>>709138
>all the Holos we're flowed in

>> No.733577

>>729241
>>729499
Reminder that the other Hololive member constantly memed about being flat specifically had a direct hand in her design, meaning that the entire time the pettan joke has been set up and orchestrated by her.

The jokes are all set-ups, and people following through are just taking the bait.

>> No.733713

>>707615
Hold up. Holo is like a hyper strict nunnery. How the fuck does an alcoholic shitposter who supplies music for a fucking porn star get in?

>> No.733799
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733799

>>733713
>Holo is like a hyper strict nunnery

>> No.733812

>>707615
Whenever people send superchats asking for advice and stuff I feel like she curls up into a ball. She's clearly so uncomfortable and a lot of pressure is on her now she has such a large audience.

>> No.734023

>>733713
she's not an alcoholic and the porn star wasn't a porn star back then
>Holo is like a hyper strict nunnery.
he doesn't know

>> No.734037

>>734023
>porn star wasn't a porn star back then
Yeah she was

>> No.734072

>>734023
Dude they have to do that thing where they pretend to be like a zealot Christfag about profanity and humor. Its no fun allowed as fuck and boring.

>> No.734556

>>733812
Some of them handle it better than others, but it's clear none of these girls were properly ready for the burden of having to give advice to loser idiots on the internet.

>>734072
>I have never actually watched any of these girls, I just shitpost on /vt/.

>> No.734673

>>708486
Seriously, I'm convinced she's an idiot.

>> No.734863

>>734023
She was

>> No.734949

>>734863
No she wasn't

>> No.735516

>>733713
>Holo is like a hyper strict nunnery
kek

>> No.736084

>>716474
But everyone is like that no matter how successful they are. As has been brought up plentily, Gura is not the one who earns the most or is considered the most artistic or the best streamer and then you could speculate that deep down, she envies others who got as popular without having to hide their face behind a cute anime girl mask for it. "They must envy the successful" really means nothing to me when you can fuck yourself up about everyone who's better than you, and there are always people who are better than you.
>>717828
Oh yeah wow all woman are the same haha. What an exhilarating take that must have come from a man because females aren't funny. Except you don't actually believe that.

>> No.741410

>>709138
Based

>> No.741512

>>708486
it got so bad even Calli got fed up and started backseating in the chat lmao

>> No.743350

>>711254
>sometimes it feels like the streams can turn into the digital equivalent of a dunk tank with everyone just frothing at the mouth begging for the next fail to lul at. I love them so much and seeing them treated this way hurts my fucking heart.
i absolutely hate this. she deserves so much better.

>> No.743666

>>743350
She should play more rhythm games since she owns at them and chat can't tell her what to do. Same as Ina with drawings. She drawmogs the entire chat so she's in control and no one can tell her what to do without looking like a fool.

>> No.743738

>>717828
I'm sure some of them envy her but others must admire or even pity her. It's lonely at the top and in the end she's just a silly girl playing some videogames, it's not like she asked for any of this.

>> No.743849

>>743666
i think everyone is in agreement that gura should stream more rhythm games, except for the game and music publishers that we need to license them to her.

>> No.746572

>>709138
meds

>> No.746793

>be shit
>get lots of subs
meanwhile
>be ina
>be talented
>have the least subs
EN has the worst taste.

>> No.747251

>>746793
Isn't Ina's attitude toward it more "I just like being here"?

>> No.747315

>>746793
almost like subs don't mean shit

>> No.747961

>>746793
>numberfags still seething

>> No.748029

>>746793
Well one is more entertaining than the other, which is important for streaming.

>> No.748115

>>707615
She used to be a pretty chaotic autist.
Now she has to act tamed and seiso.
Of course she is depressed.

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>>748115

>> No.748224

>>748115
More like her alcohol addiction is kicking in

>> No.748229

>>748115
>I only watched her 2 meme songs after she became gura

>> No.748508

>>748029
En continues to have shit taste because ina is way more interesting than gura on stream and you'd know that if you actually watched the streams instead of posting here

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>>709138
>In the Jp, in private convos they don't even say gura anymore, they just "shark whore".
I can't breathe.

>> No.748542

>>748115
she doesn't have to. the other girls don't. she's choosing this.

>> No.748668

>>748508
I'm just going to respond with the same baseless assumption, since that's the level we're at.

>> No.748732

>>708773
You forgot having sex.

>> No.748801

>>707615
>it's always the school swimsuit and not a different style of one piece
lolicons are so boring

>> No.748844

>>748801
What about that is loli? Are you fucking retarded?

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>>748801
can i interest you in this beautiful ruffled two-piece?

>> No.749203

>>707683
She's bored because she can't play the games she wants to play.

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>>746793
Ina and Kiara are the polar opposites of the spectrum. They both have about the same sub numbers. And are dragging in behind the rest of Holos. Goes to show that extremes won't get you as much numbers, but your fan base will probably be more dedicated.

In Gura's case, she has become a duality hostage, meaning she will have to try please everyone. If she were to go any other girl's path, a part of her numbers will get filtered. For example, I got into Gura because of her sweetness, shark wisdom, chattiness, and singing. But now she is censoring herself because in her head she thinks people are there not for her, but for the content. She even said multiple times she will ramble less so people can enjoy the game with her. In defense of OP, haven't you guys noticed how she changed? It feels like she is not really enjoying herself anymore. Her non-stop rambling is almost gone as well. And while she say she doesn't care about the jokes, the annoyance and frustration grows and you can hear it. I'm afraid that one day she will stop enjoying it altogether if this goes on, this is why she wants a liberty to do short shitposts and highlights of her streams, since all clippers do is just plipping the silly moments with her.
She even dropped the fucking ringfit because of the one single clip. And considering that we know she doesn't like cringe and projects it to others, such clips make her uncomfortable (IMO).

There are 2 more ways for her that I see:
1. extends things she does for the ability to grow as a content creator
2. get no freedoms because Yagoo is a numberfag. She turns into just another streamer who will say "shaaark" when asked in SC.

Or everything is perfectly fine and there are no problems whatsoever aside from Gura censoring herself.

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>>748801
No, There's also this

>> No.750836

>>750678
>Gura worry about cringe
But what about all of HER clips

>> No.750900

>>709138
kek

>> No.751177

>>724145
With 5k USD monthly income you can live a comfy life pretty much anywhere
5k x 12 = 60k
Now let's assume you start making money around 20s expecting to live to your 80s
80 x 60k = 3.6M
Throw in some additional 400k for security and you end up with 4M USD.
That is how much you need to neet for the rest of your life.
Ofc you won't keep that in cash rather in land/metals/diamonds.
At that point you just need to keep calm about money.
4M is a large number but not impossible or irrational.
It's definitely a sum you could make as a vtuber with over 1M subs in a span of 4-5 years.

>> No.751236

>>750836
The new life. You don't want to be seen as HER anymore.

>> No.751449

>>707615
>Poor Gura
Yes, poor her for soon being the most successful vtuber of all time. And before you faggot AO retards even think about quoting me, he's not a vtuber since he's just a shooped face onto an orange and no actual art or rigging thus not classified as a vtuber. Sit the fuck down

>> No.751501

>>751449
success =/= happiness

>> No.751772

>>751449
Go ask the famous rich successful comedian Robin Williams how happy he is.

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>>709138
We have been blessed by a god

>> No.752208

>>751772
Dude killed himself because he had a disease, fuck off nigger

>> No.752213

>>751449
You can be successful but dead inside. Just look at Kiara. You may say she is not successful, but she has a fucking cult. Yet she is miserable, because she has no real love in her life.

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>>709138
This is advanced schizophrenia

>> No.752252

>every single clip I watch with Gura has the nipponese absolutely frothing at the dick over her
They really want a gaijin vGF huh

>> No.752276

>>750678
wait what ringfit clip?

>> No.752317

>>752276
Of Gura panting and yelling so lewd even people with the purest mind will think that it sounds like she is getting fucked.

>> No.752352

>>752276
the one where she got rammed in the ass on stream

>> No.752507

>>752252
There are so many lolicons, every fucking comment is a variation of "Kawaii!" and "I really want to stick my dick in that."

>> No.752584

Gura's ring fit streams sound like she's getting the worst lay of her life.

>> No.752608

>>707615
She's playing Valheim the rest of the time she isn't streaming to reach her quota.

>> No.752904

>>707903
free her holoen

>> No.753091

>>709138
grass

>> No.753225

>>708547
>the rest of her content was trash
I think the term they use in these parts is kino

>> No.753249

>>709138
サメのビッチ

>> No.753772

>>750678
https://streamable.com/cjpaui
They found out kids are watching and censor themselves to some extent. Wii Fit hasn't been abandoned and she will continue it later. She has said she's more comfortable than she used to be in recent streams, and not feeling compelled to fill dead air at all times is part of that.

>> No.753840

Got a yt notofication that Gura is playing a rhythm game, but it looks like it was privated. Any idea why? I do enjoy her rhythm game streams.

>> No.753938

>>753840
https://twitter.com/groove_coaster/status/1362661459084251139
Someone fucked up the permissions.

>> No.753968

>>753938
Damn, that sucks. Gonna head over to /t/ and see if an archive chad saved it. Thanks anon.

>> No.754011

>>753772
Censorship as not allowing herself to talk a lot. I do remember Mori say about children watching but I think it was more of a mockery of faggots of such type.

>> No.754381

>>753938
Jesas, it wasn't even monetized too.

>> No.754391

>>754381
It was a shill stream.

>> No.755289

>>752252
Her voice is really cute desu

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I just want to save her, bros...

>> No.755661

>>752507
Like that isn't a good chunk of the english comments, especially here. She does it to herself.

>> No.755836

>>752276
This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT9Ts-hZYSM
Be sincere and tell us what that sounds like.

>> No.755941

>>733577
Heh

>> No.756094

>>755836
i have a boner

>> No.756414

>>751177
I've been working for twice that time and I haven't even seen a million bucks. Is there like an onlyfans audience for middle aged men?
Maybe I can sell pictures of my saggy nuts or something.

>> No.756445

she would have been happier in vshojo
there I said it

>> No.756463

>>756094
For Gura, that's probably exactly what the problem is.

>> No.756540

>>756463
She knows exactly what she's doing, except in this instance where she didn't and it got millions of views.

>> No.756599

>>751177
>80 x 60k = 3.6M
Anon I have some really bad news for you, but money does not work the way you think it does at all. Please take more than a high-school level algebra course before trying to talk about economics.

>> No.756655

>>732651
Success breeds jealousy
maybe you have heard about it

>> No.756676

>>746793
you are soooooooo mad lol

>> No.756694

I assume this is schizo general?

>> No.756720

>>756694
Anon this board is the schizo board

>> No.756721

>>750678
Take your meds please

>> No.756887

>>732651
Its the popularity bell-curve, the more fans you attract the more you get trolls and retards starting fights as well as newfags and retards that fall for trolls and fuel the antis. The constant numberfagging on both sides doesn't help. That's why this thread is here, most of us can tell that Gura isn't really happy to be extremely popular and it likely effects her content or will in the future.

>> No.756949

>>729287
Rrat or true? Either way can i ask for proof?

>> No.757271
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757271

I've been studying Gura for a while and here's what's going on.

Gura entered into Hololive and thought people would enjoy her as a vtuber and not the "ha ha funny shark does something stupid", which she said that line over and over.

She'll pretend and say that she doesn't care when she's clearly lying. Just like the others said. She literally dropped the Ringfit over one clip that made her feel uncomfortable.

I believe that she doesn't like to be made as the butt of the joke, especially with the flat jokes, being stupid and even the lewd stuff. She'll play it off in character but deep down, she doesn't like this.

There's also stuff going in her personal life where she feels doomed and nothing matters. Maybe issues with her ADHD, which does cause low self-esteem, troubled relationships, and difficulty at work. I believe she wants a relationship but can't because of having ADHD. She hinted this from time to time but it was big during her valentine times day stream. She doesn't like the fact that she's alone and sometimes even hates her life.

I'll even say that there are moments where she wants her viewers to see her real self, which is kinda depressing. For example, when a viewer said "everything is fake", she could've said something cheerful but she said "Nothing is real" and read about "being monkeys on a small rock", that itself is rather depressing to tell people. Yet deep down, those are Gura's beliefs and how she views life itself.

And if you look at the article that Gura read, it represents optimistic nihilism with how life is meaningless and everything will fade into nothing. So Gura herself is a nihilist, which doesn't believe in a God or life having meaning but you should still have fun since life is so short.

Here's the proof

https://streamable.com/5xfiis

>> No.757523

>>757271
meds and stop viewing my oshi like some creature in a zoo please

>> No.757609

>>757523
He's right though. Seeing her as an animal in a zoo is more what her fans are doing. I've said it many times, her fans treat her as if she's the joke and not a real person and dismissing observations as "schtizo" or "take your meds" makes you seem all the more autistic for not noticing. 2 million subs and the majority don't even care about the girl behind the shark, she deserves better.

>> No.757714

>play Ring Fit, a video game that forces its player to do physical exercise
>intense physical exercise will result in heavy breathing and panting
>when taken out of context, heavy breathing and panting can be assumed, correctly or incorrectly to be a result of sex, especially in this day and age
>fans do exactly that and end up making sex jokes
In hindsight, what else could she have possibly expected? At that point, she should have already had a couple of months worth of experience with Youtube channels taking stuff out of context and turning it into "le funny XD" clips. She herself basically admitted that she knows about clippers and how they operate in some stream that she did with, I think, Amelia.

>> No.757739

>>757609
meds specifically for the "deep down" shit. The rest is mostly fine. Gura is telling the truth when she says she's not sure how she feels about the ring fit clip, don't shove your idea of how she should feel on her.

>> No.757777

>>757714
Pretty sure Noel had a similar experience where her stream of ringfit sounded lewd and she didn't want to share it. You can suppress lewd noises, but in Gura's case her fans likely overplayed the sexual nature, just having that clip posted above would be enough to have her uncomfortable.
tl:dr gura has too many disgusting fans and I hate them.

>> No.757823

>>757777
>her fans likely overplayed the sexual nature,
She knew what she was doing. Shes just butthurt it got as popular as it did and the views werent on her channel.

>> No.757988

>>757823
Alright you might actually need meds if that's how you interpret her attitude

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>>755581
Then don't say she's dumb in chat. Instead we can spam smart. Also I don't think she needs to be saved. If only from autistic people who think there is something wrong with her.

>> No.758187

>>757714
>In hindsight, what else could she have possibly expected?
>>757823
>She knew what she was doing.

She was just her usual dumbass self.
She thought that yelling instead of moaning would stop the clipfags.
[Spoiler]It didn't.[/Spoiler]

>> No.758258

>>757271
>I believe that she doesn't like to be made as the butt of the joke, especially with the flat jokes, being stupid and even the lewd stuff. She'll play it off in character but deep down, she doesn't like this.
It's cause she gets self-conscious. She's always worried about talking about food too much for the same reason. She's been slowly getting used to having a bunch of eyes on her and I believe she'll eventually view the "jokes" she's heard a thousand times as comforting if she isn't already.

>> No.758400

>>709138
Gimme Proof faggot

>> No.758514

>>727737
If thats the cade then i can relate to her, but if she's that relateable then things can only get worse

>> No.758829

>>757271
>>757609
She's literally designed by a corporation that exists solely for the purpose of making money off of this shit
Stop projecting you sad sacks of shit
>say some stuff
>OH NO SHE MUST BE DEPRESSED SEND HELP
You're the ones who are the problem and the reason why Gura and the others have to watch what they say, every little word or even periods of silence you interpret as if it's a hidden signal from a prisoner of war being told to read from a piece of paper by his captors

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>do nothing
>become twice as successful as all of your peers

Gura's cute, but she's completely coasted by with nothing defining beyond "lmao funny shark girl". At least even Amelia puts some amount of effort into her shitposts, and the others have genuine skills and quirks alike that help them stand out and have earned them their place.

Gura hasn't once earned her spot as most successful Holo and didn't even get their on her own ability. None of it is deserved, and nothing's happened yet to amend that.

In that sense, Gura specifically is no different than a normal Twitch whore or egirl: show up, exist, be successful.

>> No.759012

>>758184
I've seen multiple streamers start thinking they're dumb after constant exposure to chat making fun of them. It's a real problem and the only they can save themselves from it.

>> No.759066

>>757609
It's not a problem unique to Gura though. A lot of new VTuber fans that joined the community in the last year only see VTubers as sockpuppets and not real people.

>> No.759104

>>758258
>>758184
i think it's actually really impressive how well she's dealt with being thrown into the deep end with such a huge audience. she's said that supportive comments on her VODs do make her feel better sometimes, so if you want to send her some words of encouragement that might be the way to do it.

>> No.759226

>>758829
>i-its just an act, actors don't feel things!
Holy fucking autism, anon.
>>758855
>Gura hasn't once earned her spot as most successful Holo and didn't even get their on her own ability. None of it is deserved, and nothing's happened yet to amend that.
This is overly-negative, but its partially true, Gura becoming successful on voice and model alone is hindering her ability to come out and form a character of her own and her fans don't care because she's just "le funny loli meme shark" to them and she feels obliged to act that way

>> No.759253

When I close my eyes and sleep, all I see is the void.

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>>707615

>> No.759329

>>759226
Gura says memes because she likes memes, you dork.

>> No.759346

What the fuck is this thread? A fucking nest of depression that's what.

>> No.759355

LATER LOSERS!

>> No.759357
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759357

Heard joke once:
>Girl goes to doctor.
>Says she's depressed.
>Says life seems harsh and cruel.
>Says she feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain.
>Doctor says, 'Treatment is simple. Great vtuber Gura is streaming tonight. Go and see her. That should pick you up.'
>Girl bursts into tears. Says, 'But doctor…I am Gura.'
Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.

>> No.759378

>>759329
Gura can like memes all she wants, but when memes is all she has she comes off as shallow.

>> No.759388

>>759346
Gura said herself that she, herself, wants to do clips and the moments she is proud of from her streams? because she is for memes right now. I don't remember the stream she send it in, and I am not that autistic to remember all of them. But this one fell into the soul.

>> No.759399

>>707615
What evidence is there that she's depressed?
Last time I was here somebody told me that Hololive pretty much saved Gura from a life of alcohol abuse.

>> No.759400

I want to see her rap again

>> No.759420

>>759357
At least polka has personality and does interesting things. Gura is memes and feet asmr. Let her go back to drunkizawa times.

>> No.759453

>>759400
When did she rap? I don't remember this.

>> No.759564

>>756414
>Maybe I can sell pictures of my saggy nuts or something.
Ok you got my attention. How saggy are we talking here?

>> No.759613

>>757271
>doesn't believe in a God
Dropped.

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>>759420
I'm not here to shit on Gura, fag. I just thought the Pagliacci comparison was appropiate to her situation and used the chuuba clown to deliver it.

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759618

>Gura's fanbase is retarded or horny
>I'm the horny
Feels bad knowing she probably doesn't approve of me, but at least I'm respectful and only fap to fanart.

>> No.759657

>>759357
lol

>> No.759764

>>759226
>>758855
Of all the EN girls, she is the best at games. You might say this isn't a "real skill" or something but it obviously is one of her biggest draws. The audience these girls cater to are mostly gamers, which is why all of them play video games, even those who are shit at them.

And talking is also a skill. Compare Gura's skills of making funny wisecracks to Ina who makes a pun that doesn't land once in a blue moon. I love Ina, but she simply cannot hold a cup of candle to Gura's quick-witted banter.

>> No.759794

>>759564
Bag of oranges

>> No.759811

>>759226
>>i-its just an act, actors don't feel things!
actors don't get offended on a personal level just because someone says something about the character they're playing especially if nearly everything said character does is met with an overwhelmingly positive reaction from the audience
also, compartmentalization

>> No.759825

>>759618
Wait I thought Gura didn't have any lower teeth?

>> No.759829

>>759618
I don't know how you can watch her and get the idea she doesn't approve of horny. She's liked enough risque stuff on twitter if someone manages to doubt.

>> No.759851

>>727737
she did mention "when i was learning english" but i honestly can't think of her having another language other than english and never using it.

>> No.759866

>>759811
Gura isn't playing a character 90% of the time.

>> No.759887

>>759851
Atlantian.

>> No.759903

>>734072
i can tell you've only watched gura or ina streams.

>> No.759923

>>759866
Yes she is. Compare Gura to her previous character. They are totally different.

>> No.759928

>>759453
San Andreas

>> No.759929

>>759811
Anon, she's not just playing a character, Gura is a real person talking and discussing her real feelings with us. Treating her like a sock puppet payed actress is exactly why she has issues

>> No.759955
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I think part of the issue is that she's expected to act as "most subscribed vtuber" like Kizuna Ai, and to some degree the 4 kings, Fubuki within hololive, Pekora with branding, and so on.
There are times where you need your flagship talent to appear and say something as part of a corporate statement. When the Coco situation happened, it was resolved in part because Fubuki had the pull and influence to end the debate by siding with Coco. Even if Cover didnt agree (they did), they knew they couldnt just terminate Fubuki's channel.
Pekora is an autist irl but her kusousagi streaming persona is loud and extroverted and she can play the part so you can safely put her in charge of marketing whatever if you need to.
Most (all, probably) the 1M+ sub girls have some amount of leader quality, even if they're shy irl they could concievably manage to pull off an interview with a "real" interviewer.

I *actually*, and this is not a 'gura bad' post, dont think Gura can manage any of these things. I think she's too quick to panic and stop doing whatever. She doesnt really collab, doesnt really interact with other people in hololive,... I dont think she's lazy as most people usually say, I think she really doesnt know what to do. If she fucks up its gonna reflect on the company.
Management probably doesnt know what to do either. How do you explain the people that want to do a spot on hololive that you cant give them Gura, the 2M sub girl, because she says she cant speak live on the news?
She doesnt have the presence of mind or extroversion necessary to ask for help or advice, either.
Of all the friends she could've made in JP she had to pick fucking SHION of all people, the actual, literal, self-admitted, unabashed hikkikomori. Streak of bad luck.

>> No.759957

>>759866
>G-guys trust me, you don't know her like I do!

>> No.759996

>>759866
>>759929
Damn, hololive marketing really works

>> No.759999

>>759955
>If she fucks up
By accidentally saying the japanese n-word?

>> No.760021

>>759923
They're practically the same because they're the same person. Gura is more seiso, that's it.

>> No.760036

>>711876
uh yeah that's a lie

>> No.760042

>>759955
Didn't Ai get replaced?

>> No.760060

>>759996
Anon, Robin Williams played funny characters and killed himself despite being well-loved by everyone on the goddamn planet.

>> No.760068

>>759929
I have yet to see a concrete example of her having issues.
Furthermore, it is totally up the streamer how authentic they wish to be. Calli, for instance, more often talks about her thoughts on stuff and opens up more, whereas Gura always tries to keep things lighthearted and make jokes.

What is stopping Gura to make a stream where she pours out her heart if that's what she wants? Nothing, she could do that at any time and you can bet that she would get an overwhelming response of people who wish to support her. However, that's obviously not what she wants to do. She just wants to make fuzz-free streams where she plays a naive shark girl and so she does.

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>>760060
he killed himself because he realized playing in RV was a mistake

>> No.760144

>>760068
>She just wants to make fuzz-free streams where she plays a naive shark girl and so she does.
That's the entire discussion here, she doesn't have that choice at all because of her gigantic fanbase of mouth-breathing autists that view her as just a meme.

>> No.760205

>>760144
People viewing her as a meme makes it EASIER to have fun, light-hearted streams, not less.

>> No.760234

>>760144
Of course she has that choice. Her fanbase is the way it is because Gura herself created it.
Why did she play the naive shark girl in her debut if that's not what she wanted?

And Gura is not afraid to break the fourth wall. She did so before. So if there is something she wants to express, she could do so at any time.

Really feels like you people are just hungry for drama and that's why you see it even when there is none.

>> No.760267

>>759999
By blanking, losing track, not being able to follow a question,... Things that she does that are cute and funny on stream, and gave her fanbase the material to flanderize her into "retard shark", but would be extremely awkward on an interview or anything that isnt a collab.
I dont think this is a Gura-only issue, I think most of the hololive roster couldnt carry an interview worth shit (3/5s of EN cant), but she's the first massively big vtuber that cant do these things. Gura most likely wouldnt be able to do Kiara's interview thing and its mostly preplanned questions and translating.

>>760042
Gura is still 700k behind Ai. As an aside, I think Kizuna Ai existing in her current state is part of what made vtubers succesful. 2.5M subs on what might aswell have been a dead channel meant people couldnt flock to be biggest channel, allowing smaller companies to grow without being seen as kizuna clones.

>> No.760282

>>709138
take some schiz meds

>> No.760351
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I love Gwar Gura!

>> No.760363

>>759955
>Of all the friends she could've made in JP she had to pick fucking SHION of all people, the actual, literal, self-admitted, unabashed hikkikomori. Streak of bad luck.
That's not bad luck. That's fanbase resembles the oshi turning into a holo.

>> No.760377

>>760205
It is better than be surrounded by concernfags for sure. If anything Concernfags only make things worse. The best thing to go about it is just cut down on idiotic jokes and praise her for being a good person. I'm poorfag so I can't SC and I doubt that she even reads non-red ones.

>> No.760393

>>760234
>Why did she play the naive shark girl in her debut if that's not what she wanted?
Because it was in the character profile Cover made for her. She chose the shark concept, not the personality.
Mori didnt choose the tsundere character, the character designer gave wanted to have a gap moe character so they put it in her character sheet. Same with Watson doing being a british screaming goblin in the debut, she asked to drop the sherlock script and never mentioned it again.

>> No.760418

>>709138
The amount of people replaying to this is indicative of Gura's fanbase being absolutely retarded. I would be depressed too.

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>>760351
Hell yeah Chumbudy, I love her too.

>> No.760445

>>709138
Put me in screencap!

>> No.760470

>>760363
I dont think she knew Shion is an extreme neet that refuses to do anything. Most EOPs dont know. Most EOPs dont know about Shion in general but thats another thing.
I think management put them together to see if they could do a kusogaki stream, and they became ok friends, but they're both actual aspie reclusive schizoids so they probably take 3-5 business days to reply to a discord message, same as Miko.

>> No.760478

>>707615
>those udders
get those the fuck off my daughter wife

>> No.760529

>>729287
not sure where u got that bs

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>>760351
Gwar Gura collab when?

>> No.760627

>>709875
seriously, all of them are either socially retarded or failed idols or old unmarried hags. towa is probably the most normal girl and gets hated for it

>> No.760630

>>759955
>Of all the friends she could've made in JP she had to pick fucking SHION of all people, the actual, literal, self-admitted, unabashed hikkikomori
I am now curious how many Hikki girls are there in Hololive.

>> No.760639

>>760393
Where do you get that information? Why would the company not let the talents make their own characters?

And if it is true what you're saying, then what was all this shit about with Mori being unsure if she should play a cute girl or be more authentic?

Not to mention that Calli switches back and forth between the grumpy reaper and the cute girl persona whenever she pleases.

>> No.760681

>>760393
If Gura was unhappy with Hololive due to restrictions, she would be welcomed by Vshojo with open arms at any time and she knows this.
She could probably get virtually any freedom to do whatever she wanted if she threatened to walk away otherwise.

>> No.760717

>>733577
Sometimes you have take the bait even if you know it is bait.

>> No.760742

>>760681
>vshojo
imagine being the 2nd biggest vtuber in the world and being forced to share room with two washed up boring whores who have nothing but their vaginas going for them, nyanners and ironmouse whose entire gimmick is making penis jokes and being an obnoxious hispanic
rather go work at walmart

>> No.760808

>>760470
I don't think management gives a single fuck what the girls do on discord. Gura probably messaged Shion all on her own when she was swept up by the realization that holy shit she can actually do that.

>> No.760919

We can tell Gura picked her own mama because nacho draws a shitload of catgirls and Gura loves cats.

>> No.760923

>>760742
you are 100% kidding yourself if you think senzawa and nyanners arent two sides of the same coin. they were pioneers of masquerading as anime girls and shit posting for a western audience, except now senzawa has to feel the fucking choking pressure of working for a japanese corporation just because she grew infatuated with fubuki

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>>760639
Because Cover is an online digital talent management company that needs to fill a corporate portfolio for investors. They marketing team designs safe and appealing personalities, put a girl with a fitting voice behind it, and they make money. Letting your talent pick the design and the persona is how you get the nijisanji roster.
They obviously have most of the leverage and they can choose what they want to play, but it is Cover who ultimately designs and greenlights anything they do. Suisei was denied several times because she wanted to use her own model and not one of the ones Cover gave her.
Holomyth probably had 10-20 designs and Gura chose shark and gave the general directions of "i like hinako note and I want my character to be that". Ina wanted to have her model be an outsider drawn by kuroboshi because she's a FGO fangirl. Mori probably had very little real input and was given a demon/shinigami model since she was DD. Kiara and Ame probably chose between their options, I dont think Ame would specifically go for a detective.

Mori is unsure because Cover tells you to "be authentic", and Mori irl is how she behaves in her omori stream, but they gave her a reaper rapper persona and encouraged her to be hard and rude, but also put "gap moe" as one of her core traits.
She doesnt realize it doesnt matter and you can actually drop character a month in and no one cares. Matsuri brought her brother in to sing and no one cared.

Source: This has been happening since they hired gen1 and most of the cast has answered questions about this. Yes you have input about what you want to do and play, but unless your idea is better than the designer's and marketer's you're going to have to compromise.
Also again EN/Myth is a themed generation. Maybe EN2 can manage to be 5 people completely disconnected from eachother but Myth had a clear art and design direction. "Shark" is already a massive stretch.

>> No.761048

the nonexistent pressure of working for Cover, whose only demands are that she stream sometimes and occasionally shill shit she doesn't like. She has to reply to email in a timely manner! Oh no!

>> No.761101

>>759388
it was the second members ASMR

>> No.761215

>>760923
i don't really have anything against nyanners, it's more that being associated with vshojo instantly makes you look shittier thanks to it being plagued by tryhard whores who have to constantly remind everyone that they have vaginas and that they masturbate or else they'd have 0 viewers

>> No.761243

>>760042
No. Her sisters have their own channels, though one of them retired.

>> No.761315

>>761048
>feels she has some sort of resposibility to do viral meme after viral meme as she approaches 1m subs
>bails on channel
>joins hololive
>2m subs
>"haha what pressure bitch just close your eyes lmao just stream minecraft."
based retard

>> No.761372

>>761038
We have different definitions of playing a character if replying to be my wife with "What's a wife?" is enough to qualify. 90% not acting still seems right outside of the very early period before they've settled in.

>> No.761509

>>761372
If you have a simple character and you already align with whatever you're supposed to be saying, then its gonna be a simple one. If they tell you you have to pitch your voice up two octaves like Lamy or Kiara its probably more difficult. Shion sounds chill as shit outside of her stream so "break your keyboard every single time" is probably a character requirement too.
Gura's only character being innocent small shark is not really that hard to achieve. They do this with every gen, Nene has no character to play because she's already like her sheet says.

>> No.761554

>>761509
>Nene has no character to play because she's already like her sheet says.
Which I guess serves as proof that you probably should be working in character.

>> No.761776

>>761509
innocent-lewd small shark. Innuendo is probably a character requirement.

>> No.761802

Did somebody archive her groovy stream?

>> No.761853

>>761802
Check on /t/

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>>761853
Thanks chumbuddy have a cute gura

>> No.762289

Are we back on November?
She's happier than ever and it shows
Remember the 1 hr stream schedules?
The pointless 4 times a week minecraft streams?
We got literally 12 different games this month:
>Gooigi
>Papers Plz
>Minecraft
>Savage Planet
>Hat InTime
>DBD
>Amnesia
>Skyrim
>BBT
>RDR2
>Visage
>Phogs
And a ton of og content:
>Usual Karaokes
>Member watchalongs (movies and documentaries)
>The Cake Bake
>the shill streams
I don't understand how there's people that believe this, hell, she even bought some instruments because she's enjoying music

>> No.762361

>>709875
how can I fuck a broken girl

>> No.762383

>>709758
Thats some drama I can get behind

>> No.762407

>>761509
Does character complexity scale with intelligence?

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>>762289
I really enjoyed yestersay stream, she was so happy and in her element.......its not fair chumbuds.....

>> No.762439

>>755836
God the old school porn bgm doesn't help.

>> No.762472

>>762289
and people still says she doesn't like what she does...

>> No.762490

>>762407
No. Aqua is a virtual gamer nekomimi idol maid and she's dumb as shit.

>> No.762576

why are people calling her depressed? i've been watching the luigi streams and she seemed to enjoy the game and feel good about herself

>> No.762607

>>762289
that's a lot of games...

>> No.762643

>>762576
Its just schizos projecting

>> No.762755

>>761315
If she was 'under pressure', she probably would have done something other than the bare minimum in the past 5 months.

>> No.762811

>>762755
>>762289

>> No.763048

>>762289
Based rrat slayer.

>> No.763243

>>762576
It's just the usual (fake) HERfags who onky watched her 2 memiest songs and never watched her streams claiming that Enma is holding her at gunpoint so that she doesn't swear and that she was more happy as a pretend-drunk once-every-other-month memetuber

>> No.763457

>>709138
I can't fucking believe Gura fucked Aqua

>> No.763829

>>759955
>How do you explain the people that want to do a spot on hololive that you cant give them Gura, the 2M sub girl, because she says she cant speak live on the news?
you tell them she is unavailable for an interview. there's no reason for a virtual character to take an interview with reporters anyway.

>> No.763882

What would they even ask her that hasn't been asked in a stream already? Just give them permission to splice together an "interview"

>> No.764065

>>761802
here too
>>747811

>> No.764241

>>707858
Wasn't she the one that started the whole "dum" joke? Why would she suddenly hate it?

>> No.764289

>>764241
making a joke for one stream about being dumb is one thing. having thousands of people repeat it back to you relentlessly for several weeks is another thing altogether. this should be obvious if you are not retarded.

>> No.764538

>>764289
What's she supposed to do? Stop being dumb? Trying to get chat to stop being chat is doomed to failure.

>> No.764565

>>764538
what does she have to do with a criticism of misbehavior in her chat?

>> No.764629

>>764565
Calling her dumb isn't misbehavior just because you don't like it.

>> No.764672

>>764629
you ought to be fucking gassed

>> No.764739

>>764672
So should at least half of this God-forsaken website, yet here we are.

>> No.764835

>>764739
die in agony, you retarded twitch faggot

>> No.765876

https://youtu.be/ey23zk5lfkM?t=8402
>sometimes I think my voice sounds like nails on chalkboard
okay I fully believe she used to be depressed now

>> No.766533

>>762289
And I'm really enjoying the Minecraft Speedrun thing she did, hope she makes it at least once a week, it doesn't have to be more than 2 hours, just a few attempts to learn the ropes and I can assure you she can get a pretty decent time in 2 months

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