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A theory.

The loss of hope is why Goslings get upset. Why you get that funny feeling when your chubba disappoints you. Why you care so much over somebody who would never date you, telling you, they'd never date you, even in obscure ways.

The reason Goslings get upset at perceived infidelity or lesbianism is because now they figure out the truth about their oshi.
>Bruh, its always been this way are they just fucking retarded
No, you misunderstand, I mean they now KNOW the truth. Fully.

So long as there is a 0.000000000-->x200-->00001% chance of dating the waifu that provides a man with hope.
You may understand that you have no chance
You may logically conclude your oshi would rather kill you than hold your hand
You may even fully acknowledge that every VA is just you're average girl and doesn't give a shit about you at all and probably has had 3 boyfriends in the past
You can even go so far as to fully understand that your oshi may be a total whore who uses you as a paypig
You can even have a fetish for that shit and secretly wished she cucked you. But you'll still feel the same when you truly KNOW

There's a 99.999999999 etc % chance those other options are true.
But that tiny % chance, that insignificant number, that can't be measured, calculated, or maybe even understood by psychology, is what contains your hope
And if that hope is snuffed out
If you have now reached 100% truth
That is when the despair kicks in.

Some anons will deny it, saying "nah she's just saying that" "The translations wrong,", "Its exaggeration, she's bi". They take that 0.000 etc 0001 chance and add a few hundred more zeros to it, but they desperately cling onto this hope.

Some anons don't have hope in their hearts. So they don't go through this process. To those anons I say you're lucky, but not any smarter. Society has just made you such cynics about humanity that your souls have been destroyed long before the Goslings soul has. No need to make fun of their destruction, yours occurred long before.

So finally, for those who have to ask the obvious
>Hope for what?
Hope... for the perfect soulmate.

Also here's kanata being upset with the exact same type of emotions over her oshi getting married as a near-perfect example. Because obviously she's hamming it up for views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZX2CR6b2Y

TL:DR - don't admit you're a fag online to men who are attracted to you if you want money, duh.

Discuss how chubbas make you feel. Shitpost, blogpost, do whatever.

>> No.7173045

For the record Pomu said if she ever had a husbando it would be Phoenix Wright. She also said she has a type of girl, but she wondered about what type of guy she'd like and that she'd have to think about it. If she wasn't attracted to guys, she wouldn't have entertained the idea.
Saying this because I know what this thread is about. I am not a goslingfag but I think triggered anons didn't listen to the entire stream. And by think, I mean i KNOW because this board doesn't fucking watch streams.

>> No.7173135

>>7173045
You may be correct anon, I too saw the old mint days. But I still believe the theory holds true. These anons lost hope and that is why they are lashing out.

Even if the reason they lost their hope is retarded and because they dont watch streams

>> No.7173186

just transition if youre that dedicated to fucking her lol

>> No.7173222

>>7172960
NOT READING ALL THAT

>> No.7173237

>>7173222
>TL:DR - don't admit you're a fag online to men who are attracted to you if you want money, duh.

>> No.7173281

>>7173135
It's the 100% thing that made me post that. She still is interested in guys. If anons want to live in la la land and pretend they have a chance with her, why not listen to that part

>> No.7173294

I thought you guys were just memeing.

>> No.7173313

>>7172960
schizo thread

>> No.7173323
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>>7173294
Some people are
But one look at amelia watson's fans shows goslings are very serious

>> No.7173429

>>7172960
Gosling you incompetent fuck, you made us lose at Divegrass

>> No.7173438

>>7173429
kek

>> No.7173771
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7173771

isn't disappointment the pre-determined fate of goslings? you know it never ends well for gosling...so why would it be any different for you?

>> No.7173791

>>7172960
I remember when effort-posts used to be discussed and screenshot worthy if they were good
But not on this board. On this board you get called a schizo.

>> No.7173831

Gosling have explained this many times. Amegeddon died out the moment it was shown she's not in a relationship with that guy anymore.

>> No.7173856

>>7172960
If you were the anon I replied to in the NijiEN thread Thanks. It feels good to cry in privacy. I'll be fine, I think.

>> No.7174140
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>>7173771
Goslings don't choose to be goslings, they just become them when they fall in love with their oshi. It's not possible for most to just *stop* loving someone. I'm sure goslings understand that, deep down, they have no chance. They simply just feed off of the little crumbs of love their oshi hands to them -- accidently or otherwise -- so they can survive.

>> No.7174398

Even if Goslings are rational and know there is no hope, the fantasy is still fun and the oshi shouldn't ruin it for them.

>> No.7174468
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7174468

Gosling who? Be me. Be a Lord.

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>>7174468
Based.

>> No.7174537

I'm not reading all that, OP, but I'm no psycho. I just want to put my penis inside the anime girl.

>> No.7174598

>>7174398
Amegeddon was also proof that "don't talk about it" apparently isn't good enough.

>> No.7174797

Once you become aware of having a gosling mindset and maybe also realizing how dumb it all sounds, at that point you can then consume the streams as entertainment value, not as relationship fuel.
To me, it's like having a crush over a video game/TV show/anime character, except there's an actual VA in that character. Perhaps that's what the goslings latch on to initially?
When I gosling'd in the past, I felt an untimely dread, the fact that the vtuber may have fucked that male, or the fact that she may be lesbian. They may just be in a long, seemingly endless cycle of grief, never hitting the acceptance phase, that is until they realize the truth.
But I've long past the acceptance phase, and I now only see vtubers as mostly entertainment and the "funny moments xd haha", but unironically.
When I stopped gosling, it improved me mentally and I realized that I should be taking care of myself rather than akasupa'ing the chuuba. I laugh at the other goslings, knowing that when the "truth" hits, they'll go full autism and shit up threads.

>> No.7174872

>>7172960
tldr

I'll do you a better explanation: people don't want to be reminded they're single. Vtubers are like alcohol, helping forget that fact.

>> No.7174940

>>7174398
Not a lot you can do when people drag up shit from the past and get mad about it

>> No.7174991

>>7174598
That's why OPSec is a must.
Illusion must be perfect, or it gets harder to sell

>> No.7175158

iofi is the chuuba who has the highest chance to get married with you

>> No.7175197

>>7175158
I thought it was choco
>Talks about the 3 times she went out on a date
>All of them were absolutely miserable experiences
>Would probably date you if you had basic human fucking decency and a stable middle class income

>> No.7175267

>>7175197
>Would probably date you if you had basic human fucking decency
YES BROS IM IN-
>and a stable middle class income
shit. Are there any poorfag chuubas who would love me even if we go out to McDonald's for special occasions?

>> No.7175345

>>7175267
All the holos have maybe 5 years of money making total before the fad dies down. No jap woman wants to be a permanent salarygirl with a regular job so they will need to have a support salaryman bf

Unless they're Rushia and make enough to retire within that timeframe

>> No.7175351

goslings are weak, self pitying creatures who make no effort to achieve their dreams other than hoping it somehow happens
become the kind of person your oshi would want
become someone who would be your oshi's oshi

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>>7172960
What do you mean there's a chance? Gosling is about being sad that the vtuber feels real enough to be a real girl, but with zero chance to get.
That is why gosling is sad, not struggling.
Joi is designed to be as real as possible, but the fact is she's merely a program designed to be K's ideal GF.

>> No.7175593

>>7172960
I enjoy vtuber as performers and entertainers, no matter what their gender is.

>> No.7175949

>>7172960
I would say that they already know this fact, but they can't be helped loving them even if their chances are 0. To be honest being a gosling is really sad and it can lead to having an actual depression

>> No.7175994

>>7175949
Yes but if that was the case why do they freak out when they're then told by the oshi it impossible? They would have to have a tiny piece of themselves with hope that was dashed. Otherwise it wouldn't hurt more it'd be the same

>> No.7176076

>>7175994
Exactly, there’s no way they think it’s impossible odds when every time a chuuba has a relationship (or a past one) you get tons of schizo meltdowns. Deep down they think they have a 0.0000001% chance and it’s sad

>> No.7176151

>>7175994
Knowing it is not equal as losing hope, somehow they still believe in some kind of miracle, maybe getting into Holostars, or being noticed somehow and befriending them. Is hard to explain because human emotions tends to be like this, unpredictable and understandable

>> No.7176182

>>7176151
Ununderstandable*

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>>7175994
>>7176076
It's not about that at all. When an oshi has male voice on stream or verified BF what that means is that goslings no longer feel like the chuuba needs their company. When a vtuber ends the stream goslings like to feel that the chuuba to some extent can't wait to stream again/interact with us. If that vtuber has a boyfriend then she doesn't need our companionship outside of money. The dynamic between vtuber and viewer stops being "someone wants to hang out with you and you give her money sometimes" and becomes "someone just got done making out with their IRL man and has to stream so you can pay her rent".

This argument sounds like a gosling insisting that he's not a cuck even though there are thousands of other guys like him who love their oshi just as much. However, I insist that goslings are not necessarily cucks, it's just a matter of simple heirarchy. Goslings are all equal and none of them outrank the others. They're all in the same boat. Goslings only become cucks once their oshis have boyfriends, because boyfriends severely outrank goslings on the heirarchy.

I've accepted several times over that Calliope Mori of Hololive EN will never know my name or face and I will never wake up to her sleeping by my side. But if I found out tomorrow that she had a boyfriend I would find a new oshi immediately.

>> No.7176533

>>7176454
So in your opinion the goslings get upset when the stream changes from friends hanging out to a woman just doing her job. The sexual aspect of it being optional to the emotion?
Interesting...no seriously thats something to consider

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>>7176533
Yeah that's how I've always felt about it. I'm not saying that vtubers without boyfriends can also be milking their gig for money or that vtubers with BFs never care at all about their fans but generally there's a pretty clear difference. If she has a boyfriend, that breaks the glass-strong reality constructed in our heads that our favorite vtuber would genuinely like being with us even if she didn't make any money off it.

I guess another thing is that we can spend so much time watching streams that we can play pretend having a significant relationship with the vtuber. Mori spends a lot of time talking to us about some personal things so the relationship almost feels real. Even though we accept we will never have her we still have moments with her, so we can delude ourselves into thinking "Maybe what we deadbeats all share is something pretty intimate and special". Again, this is all pretty much a cope and not based on reality so once word of a boyfriend goes around then this play-pretend relationship gets destroyed.

>> No.7176786

>>7176454
This is interesting to know because in this statement a gosling would be the next step for a gachikoi, and it would be even sadder not only being unable to marry your oshi, even more they would treat you as a mere job which is more soulless and cold lol

>> No.7177072

>>7176454
I have to wonder if this site's obsession with cuckoldry (seriously look at the writing thread and how many prompts are NTR) makes me wonder if that's coloring the conclusions.
Maybe I'm just not in the right orbit to remotely understand Goslingism since I never really pushed it towards that heavy connection and lately been watching in part to try and build up a mental base for them to try and build up something with for the writing thread.

Like Lamy's stream's I'm in part being focused on the chat filter on the side bar with the translations and tone as much as the stream proper. Not sure if that's Parasocial as much as anything like the Greet streamer at start of stream and send off streamer part is one of those cases of "Is it parasocial or is it polite streaming etiquette and the expected responses for dealing with a Japanese streamer"

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So, mina-san. Are you satisfied with our product?

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>>7172960
I don't fully understand what your point is, but I definitely know its some sort of cringe about being a beta orbiter.

The only thing I have to say in response to that is, you're pathetic and should just end it already.

>> No.7182188

Okayu is seriously too fucking adorable for me
I cannot take it

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