/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72314148
KEK THEY REMOVED THE BOOKMARK THIS TIME.
Hey, at least the sisters are learning now!

>>72314148
They're both insufferable in their own way, so I'm happy these two autists are having a good time together.

>>72314189
They fucked up earlier?

>>72314148
This confirms that Mumei, by not ghosting Kiara, is supportive of Enna. And considering how far she went for Doki, by taking a long break and letting her stay in her house, she must have found out that the attempt was fake.

>>72314835
Ya. They kept posting the same image, but it was clearly bookmarked, showing that they were hatebrowsing random hologirls' twitters for anything resembling something they could post to 4chan, and then bookmarking it for later shitposting.
This time they still forgot to like or retweet, once again proving that they're complete idiots who couldn't falseflag their way out of a box.

>>72314955
kek

>>72314189
I dont get it. Doesn't the bookmark save the tweet. Is this old?

>>72314189
ootl here, what bookmark??

>>72315043
No, we yelled at them that they were idiots for keeping the bookmark up so she quickly deleted that image, and posted a new one.

>>72314878
Post tits

>>72314148
Welp there goes another one

>>72314148
How can Mumei befriend someone who's befriended with her other friend's bully?

>>72314148
>Chillin with the parasocial cuck losers money~ yaahhh
Didn't even have to stream that much

Did retards really think Kiara was unaware of the drama and didn't consult Mumei and Pomu, before meeting Ethyria? Jesus fuck you people deserve to be farmed.

>>72315494
Wouldn't be the first time Kiara fucked up like this. To be fair though, she probably got bonked by her manager for this stunt.

This is great, this whole niji scandal managed to uncover hololive dirt, turns out fuwamoco and mumei aren't so perfect after all

>>72314148
So a continuous post from kiara of all she hang out with related to the nijisanji to hint at something.
>That she's a two faced bitch that don't care what a lot of people think since she's filthy rich

>>72315391
how can someone past middle school age even ask a retarded question like this?

>>72314955
sisters just can't do anything right. They can't counter rrats, they can't support their shitty oshis, they can't sow discord, they can't clear kurokara's name, they can't even chip away at doki's goodwill or that of her friends'. They're incompetent boomers in zoomer bodies trying to navigate their way through the Internet.

>>72314148
Fuck Kiara for throwing the clique a lifeline. Simple as. I don't really care if she's publicly buddy buddy with members I like. Doesn't change the fact that it was a shit chicken move.

>>72315494
Staying silent and solving shit offline was too hard for her huh, gotta get more clout while at it.

man it's so depressing kiara dragged mumei into her mess to pull her out of shit

It's possible doki is OK with them associating with clique. She is doing extremely well. And for reasons holos still may need to acknowledge the nijis. So she probably said " OK no issue" when asked.

People need to understand that the whole "clique leader" , "clique assistant commander" terminology doesn't exist in the outside world.

>>72315289
roru, rumao

at least >she is learning from >her mistakes

Sisters are so bad at this, yes they are obvious in this thread too

>>72314955
Sisters how can we stop taking Ls and fight back for the cause?!?!?

>>72314878
I think it's pretty much confirmed that the break has nothing to do with selen and more about mumei's studies and holo fes. It happened at the perfect timming tho.

>>72315289
cute!

>>72315822
Yeah, she's too big to even worry about them now. On top of that, she's played everything by the book and hasn't attacked Niji even once despite all of the garbage they've done to her. She's been an actual saint throughout this whole thing, and if they try anything else, now that Doki actually has emotional and logistical support, she could completely crush them in the public eye.

>>72314148
https://twitter.com/nkmmktwt/status/1772499365975744890
I like this version

>>72316194
>first reply
EVERY FUCKING TIME.
HOW DOES SHE DO IT
also nice tits

>>72316122
Is it bad that as a holofan I support dokibird with how she acted the entire situation compared to kiara

>>72316563
Nah, if there's one thing I'd like people to learn from all this nonsense it's that you should support the talents you love, not the corpo they're tied to.

>>72315289
Kwab. Someone put some babies into these sisters. They need something better to do with their time

>>72316770
They would give birth to abominations

>>72315610
Clique is based, fuck that fat bitch she should kill herself but for real

>>72317040
Yeah, show her how it's done

>>72315822
That's probable, to fix nijisanji and hololive relation together for future collabs especially as she used her official account rather than pl to showcase her hanging out them.
But nijisanji is ultimately a competitor, their remaining fanbase is too toxic as you might see from their behaviour during the mass exodus of subscribers, the livers are actually being shown to be horrible people too(uki is one) and its impossible that all the girls were innocent, lastly the high chance of en branch being closed too.

The way she presented her association with the livers to the public just feels too disconnected from the serious undertone of what has transpired which was the near loss of life. It's too jarring and something about it sickens me.

>>72317126
In other words, Kiara's tone deaf and a poor judge of character. From what I hear from the KFP, this is normal.

>>72315494
I'm not fully convinced that Kiara is a good person, she has repeatedly rubbed me the wrong way for over 3 years now

>>72314148
Lol you don't fool me it's just Gura hanging out with Kiara again. Both are in or near Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swJ0IIy4FDg&t=3s

So it confirms that Kiara is worried and maybe dodging streaming cause of the drama.

>>72316052
Critical information status - missing
Or youre a sister and just ignore the hard facts. Its plubic knowledge what she was doing on that break

>>72317361
bruh Kiara is in Austria since yesterday
There is a reservation up for today

>>72317631
Hey bro not a sister. What critical info are you talking about?

>>72317040
Lead by example, sister

>>72317310
I've rubbed myself to Kiara for 3 years. Feels good

>>72317126
I mean sure you are free to feel sick as much as you want. My point was more for people who were making avengers edit of the girls.

Also holo jp has been collating with niji jp pretty frequently so they had to initiate contact with en side at some point. Lastly enna, while under suspicion is not in the firing line like elira, as opposed to what this place would have us believe.

>>72317126
Maybe Kiara's friendship with the Niji girls is stronger than a business relationship and she couldn't ignore them.
There is no reason to blacklist them as there is no concrete evidence against them publicly( the clique theory is still largely a rrat).
Also Kiara's relationship with them might be different from theirs with Doki. She can't really conjure up feelings which we might feel against the clique.
At best, she might think it was the management's fault and at worst, maybe some sort of misunderstanding on Doki's part.
Her publicly associating with them might be her way of helping them out of a PR nightmare and mitigating the damages.

>>72317031
True. Someone wanna just drive a tank through their neighborhoods instead

>>72317643
Alright then. Let's wait.

>>72316563
No, that just makes you a good person, as opposed to a tribalfag.

>>72318082
>helping them out of a PR nightmare and mitigating the damages
Yeah, and instead she almost brought this nightmare to Cover's footsteps. Thank god nothing came out of it in the end

>>72314878
>>72316052
Sisters do all this digging for selective evidence with a literal doxxsite at their disposal and this is the best counterrat they can come up with? Pitiful.

>>72316052
Yeah, that seemed obvious. Thank god it worked out, though. God, I love both these birds so, so much.

>>72314148
how many @ would you last till you get bored of replying completely? kiara's seem to be the type of person that would spam your dms with "memes"

>>72317704
A dramafag could spoonfed (You), but lest just said that a very specific friend of hers went to stay with her, and that is on twitter. Do your repa, is not that hard

>>72315494
As a day 1 KFP, no.

Kiara is painfully oblivious sometimes and can't read the room for shit. I don't know or won't speculate on the doki bullying, she seems to be pass that and trying to do her own thing but I doubt this is the big ass fucking Avengers plot line you think it is. More than likely it was Nip management who fucked everything up, if you ever worked for JP businessmen you would know how fucking retarded, petty and hierarchical they can be.

>>72318764
Wasn't it the other way around? Birb invited yellow birb to stay over?

>>72318764
This tiptoeing has gone on long enough. People like >>72318593
are starting to buy the sisters' bs. Time to rip off the band-aid.

>>72318911
Wait, no, I'm an idiot and got my timelines mixed up from all the fucking research I've been doing into this shit the past few days.
God, I'm tired.
Yeah, I forgot she announced an indefinite hiatus specifically around the time that Selen's "accident" happened and had to go check again. What a fucking hero.
Thanks, anon. I almost forgot.

>>72314148
Whatever falseflagging the sisters are doing, its seems to be working.
With ever thread, they are leveraging the KFP and holo tribalfags' help to clear the name of their clique.
Either somewhere nijisisters are falseflagging as KFP and KFP are silently agreeing or KFP is actually trying to clear Kiara's name and by association clearing the clique's name as well.
BAKA They didn't even have to post tits...

Hey guys
What if Enna actually wasn’t the fucking bully

>>72319655
I agree. She is probably someone with a rough exterior and looks bitchy but has a golden heart inside. Doki probably named her as her saviour against the pinoy and the half breed. They are both chinks afterall

Why are the sisters trying so hard to clear the names of the girls who they're going to throw under the bus for their boys anyway?

>>72319655
I honestly want to believe the three stooges weren't bullies, too. I really enjoyed them in 2021 and 2022, but at this point there's too much circumstantial evidence to ignore.

>>72319105
but her hiatus started almost a month before the whole selen situation tho, that was the last week of november. Also mumei was still in a break when doki started to stream again. Mumei clearly stated taht her hiatus was for herself, or are you going to ignore what she said but completely believe other dramafags?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaDAABgW9i4

>>72320049
Yeah, it was, but around the same time she specifically clarified that she was going to continue her hiatus during a new years karaoke and that she had no idea when she'd be back. The timing lines up perfectly.

>>72320049 (me)
Also, not saying that this >>72318911
didn't happened, but stating that her break (thankfully) coincided with the selen situation but it wasnt the reason fo her break nor the reason why she havent streaming regulary and just now after holo fes ended she has plans to streaming more.

>>72319826
>Kiara is one of the sisters

Alright retards, what's the latest NDF period-induced history revising delulu this time?
Mumei did not in fact care for Doki because the latter is the true troublemaker?

>>72320286
>Kiara watching the Niji Homos
Haha good one.

>>72314878
>she must have found out that the attempt was fake
Or, hear me out, maybe Enna never did anything long and the 0 evidence that she did is just that, there is no evidence.

>>72319826
The girls are useful as long as they are publicly defending Nijisanji.
Besides, Elira and co were named in a document written by Doki, documenting her harassment .
Niji's stance was to shit on Doki instead of examining her claims, and so the sisters, instead of thinking for themselves, knew what their next course of action was.
Various other things along with Elira's black stream also helps.

>>72320130
Yes, but she didn't stoped her break when doki started streaming again, in fact we are still in that limbo of no regular streams, just recently she said that she was going to stream more because fes ended. I mean sure she dicedid to take some days to take care of her friend but I don't think it affected her break that much considering how much time has passed since then.

>>72320357
No, the new one is that Pomu was one of the bullies and that she ran out so she'd be gone before the bullets started flying.
Also Mumei is actually against doki because she had a tweet acknowledging kiara who met with enna and millie, but ALSO met up with pomu which means pomu met enna, millie, luca, and elira and is part of the clique who bullied Selen.

>>72319540
They've been falseflagging. I think it should have been pretty obvious when they took my fucking split

>>72314148
THIS IS CLEARLY A MANAGER TWEETING MUMEI HATES THAT FUCKING WHORE FOR BETRAYING HER FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE

>>72315289
LITERALLY BOOKMARKED! Jesus how pathetic!

>>72320636
yelling won't give you toilets

>>72314148
I hate that orange bitch

>>72317310
Nobody is claiming Kiara is a good person. That's not what they are defending. No KFP has ever countered Kiara's drama with "she's a good person", they always counter it with "she's Austrian".

>>72320636
>Hero of /vt/
HOLY SHIT, I KNEEL

>>72320920
It's also a photoshop. There's no superchat that matches it on that stream.

>>72318082
>The bois had to use their pl to show support for dokibird
>Kiara had to use her hololive account to show support for Pomu,Enna and Millie

>>72315494
Nah, this is damage control for cozying up to the Satan of vtubing.

>>72320858
I am, my counter is she's easliy scammable

>>72319655
>what if the literal bully isn't a bully

>>72315289
if you were ever wondering why /vt/ was a drama shitpile, it's because of Ehtyria (literally they post here) and Nijisisters
women doing woman things

>>72320981
>>72320920
Behold true mental illness
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/Deafbeatdiscord74739.png/

>>72319540
Just as according to keikaku.

>>72321097
The sad thing is, they probably say the same thing about Selen due to her humor, without understanding that her friends are just as vicious back to her, and that despite all of the tough talk, she's a squishy cinnamon roll who'll support you both on and offstream, as well as eat crow onstream if it means the other people or her fans are happy. Can't say I think the same for Enna.

>>72314148
So I'm guessing schizos are seething since the fabeled 'holoEN civil war" isn't playing out like they thought it would?

Fuck drama and fuck birds

>>72321404
based

>>72321240
Holy fuck, completely forgot about this after that 39iq thing.

>speak to their friends about "their truth"
Makes sense since she is close to them and their friend, she would take "their truth" at face value, instead of actually trying to find sources to disprove that.
Just wish she wouldn't have partaken in "turning the public sentiment around".

>>72321404
Hope you have a VPN. Godspeed, horny anon.
God, those are some nice tits. That's a good artist.

>>72321404
baste

>>72320619
You failed to mention all the lesbian sex. Elira was there too.

>>72314148
So this is how her "career" ends.
Passive aggressive virtue signalling in the spirit of nijisanji.
Truly the kiarasanji of all times.

>>72314148
Reminder that there is high chance this is management replying from mumei's account.

>>72322726
This cope would work better with niji

>>72318532
What's the site?

>>72322955
Nyfco. It's a site dedicated to gathering and spreading real world information on vtubers because ????
They're also the main stomping grounds of the scorned sisters that've fucked around /here/ for the past two months, desperately trying to slander Doki and Sayu because they think that if those two somehow "fall" then Nijisanji will recover.

>>72322895
No, really. How often do they tweet like that? This shit reeks of damage control. Now they need to do "besties" collab stream too.
And all because of some niji retards that used her.

>>72314878
nigga you're even more schizophrenic than the voices in my head

Turns out Doki was honest about moving on and there's likely no major drama between her and Enna.
That's good news, except for the NDF and dramafags.

>>72323976
Kiara doesn't want to move on, so we must hate Doki now

>>72323976
In my head I want them to be friendly because I really, REALLY, REALLY liked elira + selen porn and Doki's new design does not compare to the sheer gallons and gallons of cum I want to pump into these two saucy, stacked dragon sisters as they tease and bully me.

>>72323540
funny because kiara never was that close to mumei in comparison with bae or fauna.

>>72323540
Mumei is the closest person to her in promise. Most collabs, girls talk, put her in pineapple, etc.

>>72324113
How does this make any sense? Mumei is Doki's friend and publicly associates with Kiara, so it should be assumed there's no problems with them.

>>72314148
Proof that there's no drama except Niji made drama in this.

>>72325696
Because people can meet and have lunch without endorsing everything that person ever does for the rest of their life.
I don't understand how this is a hard concept for sisters.

>>72325836
So we agree that there's no drama between Mumei, Kiara and Doki regardless of what Enna did.

>>72326028
Yeah, and it's insane that people keep psychoanalyzing everything like this.

>>72326028
Of course not anon they're all good friends don't forget to put Millie in too

>>72326138
Yeah, Sayu too. Everyone knows that Nijisanji are such kidders.

>>72326290
You can really appreciate their dedication to the bit. It can only happen if they are close and all friends with each other to pull it off

>>72326028
There can not be public drama between Mumei and Kiara.
Holo would pick their own branch projected unity over Doki at any time. Especially since it doesn't really hurt her in this case.

>>72314148
They're actually running damage control for Kiara lmao.

>/vt/ gossiping whores spam every thread saying Mumei will be mad at Kiara and leave holotori
>Meanwhile Mumei...

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
Dramatrannies being utterly BTFO every time is why I always come back to this shithole. Now watch them cope with "I-it was corporate mandated! Kiara forced her! Her manager used her twitter!"
I'll wait for your next cope sisters. Surprise us

>>72326442
Rate this cope anon >>72326437

>>72314878
Actually fucked of Doki to lie and betray such a caring friend.

>>72314148
see chicken? this is how you do pr, not talking to niji garbage

>>72319655
But then, again, why were they mentioned in the document that wasn't meant to be seen by the public?

>>72326442
>make up shit while attributing it to /vt/
>be easily entertained

>>72326616
Yeah Dokiee is such a liar

>>72326580
0/10
It would imply cover gives a single fuck about /here/ drama. Of course sisters would give so much credit to themselves, after all this place is the only place that gives them attention roru

Mumei would usually reply and show some kind of recognition when other girls mention her, it’s not like she has Kronii’s level of disrespect

>>72321104
I've noticed solely by the constant shitty arguments, and dumb posts only a women could come up with. Felt like I was arguing with a child until I realized this place was definitely full of the femcel types that have been waging war against female vtubers for some time now, doing really petty things like nitpicking small, insignificant things about certain female vtubers that nobody really cares about, a common thing women do to other women. Also the severe lack of daily drama threads towards male vtubers unless their related drama is big enough to catch traction on social media. This would imply that no men even bother to watch male vtubers and wouldn't even know anything or care to make a thread about male vtubers, and sisters wouldn't really want to make drama threads about the male vtubers they love. It's these obvious patterns and trends that anyone with some critical thinking could figure out the culprit.

>>72326773
So are you saying she wasn't the one that wrote the reply?

>>72326727
>be easily entertained
Why not? I look at this place like I look at a zoo. Don't you find it funny when monkeys start acting like, well, monkeys?

>>72326818
No

Wtf /vt/fags you lied to me, they were supposed to hate each other!

>>72314148
Damn Hololive won again

>>72314189
now that is pretty sad. lol

>>72326138
Try reading what you're replying to, Enna obviously did things wrong.

>>72321020
Yeah, bc to the higher ups at Cover, ppl who are still in the rival company they have good relations with are less of a PR risk than someone who just got fired for alleged misbehavior. Are they right? No, but this is how they probably view it.

>>72326690
I mean, the document mentions where they live, they are involved probably, but it could easily be that Selen mentioned their location as a site where some kind of harassment took place

>>72314878
>>72326616
>>72315494
>>72315560
this is such insane cope lmao is this really gonna be the new angle?
do sisters here even realize Mumei was friends with Doki long before either were in Holo and Niji? Why would she suddenly betray her close friend of many years out of nowhere just for some co-worker she isn't that close to now? How does her tweeting an emoji mean this?
How thew fuck do you even know 'Kiara consulted with Mumei and Pomu before meeting the nijis?' Literally just writing fanon in your head

Based on everything we know about the people involved, the events and what is the most reasonable interpretation, here's what probably actually happened
>Doki is telling the truth, the likes of Elira, Enna and co are pieces of shit
>Mumei did visit Doki on her break and she does believe Doki
>Pomu is also guilty but in a guilty bystander kind of way and is too timid/weak mentally to not cut off and denounce former co-worker friends she was close to
>Kiara is an oblivious tone-deaf retard who is starry-eyed and prioritizes networking over taing hard moral stances
>Kiara made that quote tweet absent-mindedly when scrolling through the fanart hashtag without much though behind it
>Mumei has no particularly close feelings for Kiara but responded with simple emojis because she couldn't think of what else to say and would have felt awkward/like it would look conspicuous if she didn't reply to a tweet in which she was tagged

if you disagree with this really obviously true version of events you are just coping and trying to push some narrative to defend your side

>>72326442
>>72327022
They are trying to move on and scream about a watch instead. The sliver bullet that will kill Hololive.

>>72329536
not any of those anons, and I'm not questioning your reasoning of any of this, because it's obvious that they don't wanna engage in any trival shit and a very good proof is that bae seems to be friends (even tho they are probably not taht close) with elira who is seen as the main villian here and yet bae and mumei are as close as they've ever been, besties even. Now its is true that bae probably knows more about the doki situation than anyone else thanks to mumei.

>>72314148
>KFP and Hoomans
>Hoomans
Ahahahah

>>72315289
The NDF are not sending their best

so you guys just gaslit yourself into thinking things happened because of some larper and then repeated them enough? no wonder your dads believe in Q.
at least elira made that video so she became the face of whatever the fuck this is, but enna? millie? post one thing that proves anything.

>>72316122
When i told /haha/ that they were in good hands with Mr. Man long ago, this is what I meant. You are gonna make it

>>72330891
In what fucking world is this an okay thing to publicly tweet out? If she actually cared and wasn't just trying to twist the knife in public, she would have sent messages in private, instead.

>>72331309
In what fucking world is that not okay? What the fuck. Try reading less gossip online, anon.

>>72314148
leave my Mumei out of this.

>>72331488
NTA but in this world that's not ok.

>>72331488
At the time? Sure. I thought it sounded harmless and tone deaf. With the shit we know now after the black screen shit with the talent and management harassing the shit out of her for and after the video, telling her to graduate? This is absolutely a public dressing down.
What kind of idiot would specifically ask "did you receive a confirmation/ok sign to manesan before uploading this cover? "They won't private something like this as long as you have the ok"" unless she already knew the answer? It's full of unnecessary details that paint her in a shitty light as a rulebreaker, placing all of the blame directly on her, rather than actually asking for any kind of information herself.

>>72331853
Anon please hurting women and teenagers, they can't fight back and use their brains

>>72331853
>With the shit we know now
That's the thing, you don't actually know anything. You believe you do, but you don't.

>>72332001
Nijisanji directly posted logs stating that they claimed Selen did not have permissions for the video despite it being fucking completed already, you bleeding heart moron. You cannot even start a project like this without storyboards being given to the higher ups for approval. On top of this, they ghosted her all the way up until after her very, very strict deadline, which also was on her schedule, meaning that Selen had the permissions to put it there in the first place.
To make shit worse, the fact that Millie was asking something so very specific without any way to respond properly other then "yes" or "no" makes it very, very fucking clear that this is not an inquiry meant to actually obtain information.

>>72314148
reminder that hoomans don't watch kiara

>>72332272
Yes we do

>>72332001
NTA again, but the thing about truth, it's always simple and doesn't contradict itself.
So unless I'm presented with new facts, I will stick with something that explains every last of the existing ones. Without jumping through logical hoops. If niji wanted to change the narration, they should have presented me with more facts. But they best shot was the black stream, and you know how it went.

>>72332272
Yeah we don't

>>72315586
People who unironically think like this are just as bad as nijisisters. It's the same bpd highschool girl mentality.

>>72330316
what's the proof that Bae is friends with Elira? That she called into a stream of hers one time well over a year ago or something? Seems tenuous

>>72333131
Nah, of all the hills to die on, this one's not one of them. Allegedly last year they were off in japan doing tons of shit together. Karaoke, eating cakes, whatever. I don't doubt that they're friends. But at the same time I don't see them being close enough that something like this would've ever been brought up, and Bae likely has just as much knowledge about what's going on inside Niji as we do unless Mumei tells her something.

>>72333223
Honestly, I don't think Mumei told anyone anything. So far Doki has been unreasonably careful with her NDA, and gossiping about private matters is not something friends do.

>>72333223
nevermind I checked the call-in was only from 5 months or so ago, dunno why I thought it was longer than that, a lot of shit has happened between then and now I guess
>Allegedly last year they were off in japan doing tons of shit together
like I said, a lot of shit has happened between then and now and there's been no interaction since so it's probably fair to say they aren't close but if they were they probably aren't now, after everything
Bae likely doesn't know much about what happened like you said but I can't imagine Mumei would really be ok with her being close friends with Elira now knowing what she knows - it's important to note here that Mumei was friends with Selen long before both were hired into their respective corpos i.e. Mumei was friends with Selen before she was friends with Bae
hard to imagine she would choose Bae over Selen if Bae became besties with Elira and insisted on it

>>72333471
It's entirely on brand for her to be secretive to the point where nobody knows what bad shit is going on.
This is why I absolutely believe the rrat that Pomu had no fucking clue what was going on between Selen and the other organs/management. Or maybe she knew that Selen was having a hard time getting projects completely, but the dragon refused to give details. finding out after you leave the company that a person you thought you were friends with nearly killed themselves over the treatment from other people you thought were your friends is probably really, really fucking devastating.

>>72315289

>>72333616
pomu was part of the clique, there's an even smaller chance of her not knowing than kiara not knowing about the drama

>>72333845
If she was part of the clique, she likely wouldn't have had so little merch compared to the other clique members.

>>72333616
Just a little observation to the mix.
Doki sounded mildly annoyed in the beginning of Saturday's stream when Kiara debacle took place.
And uncharacteristically absolutely fucking cheerful on Sunday.
Pomu had public meltdown yesterday.

>>72323388
It's hilarious that they had to start using it as their Reddit after they all got driven out of the OFFICAL Nijisanji subreddit by Doki fans.

>>72334019
What do you mean? Was it the whole "something went down at my previous job that left me traumatized"?
Also she was annoyed because of the skinsuit designs, wasn't she? Every time she asked if people liked the original or her edits, they always liked the original.

>>72334037
No they've been using it for years. And I don't think the Nijisanji reddit actually had doki fans in any majority. It's still probably ex-niji fans.

>>72334019
You're reaching, man, take a step back

>>72319812
Go to bed Enna

>>72334019
On sunday she likely had her skinsuit finalized or drafted, and she probably got the apex sponsorship video back. She also has a lot of good news for the next few weeks, so if she's happy, it could be a lot of things.
Cheering at the misery of others is definitely not something that actually makes her happy, though, so it'd be nice if deerskin approached doki after her little epiphany and forced out answers.

>>72334430
Just stating facts, can be a coincidence, can be not.
But someone did reach out to Pomu to provide her with a new perspective that kickstarted the meltdown. Can always be some of her idols of course.

>>72315352
>>72314148
Here, the tits version.

>>72334696
Creamed nipples.

>>72333524
well, considering the things that mumei said recently, seems like she and bae are very close so maybe bae is not as close to elira, take in count that bae likes to make friends so is not that she tends to become super close with everyone that speaks to her.

>>72321240
No fucking way this shit is gonna come from HOLOLIVE TALENTS of all peolle. Even from someone as retarded as Kiara. Yagoo will skjn everyone involved alive

>>72335692
Kiara would believe anything as long as you say the right words to her. Anyways it's incredibly easy too cook a different narrative by mixing lies in the gap of knowledge for those who doesn't know the whole story. Kiara is no exception to this cause we have gotten no word of her reaching out to hear the side of doki and only hearing the story from the other side(It's highly unlikely mumei would tell her friend secrets). So from all she tried to do publicly it's seems apparent that she has believed the other side story and is trying to salvage the reputation of Enna and Millie by also associating herself with pomu then the subtle tweets of her hanging out with mumei immediately afterwards. With some anon saying the reply of mumei using just emojis was a way to not make it all akward since kiara made the tweet mentioning her being happy hanging out.

>>72336725
So basically Kiara trying to salvage their reputation utilizing her hololive prestige and mumei's name(someone close to doki). Which is kinda in a bad taste considering what has transpired and backlash when the livers presented their side of the story during the black stream.

>>72337109
Either way managers should be on her ass so there won't be any continuation. You don't willingly associate yourself (and your company) with the biggest yab in the vtuber history and walk away scot-free.

Guys... maybe Kiara is just retarded.

>>72336725
>>72337109
Come on, there's no way her manager won't wrangle her away from this shit. Or is she just uncontrollable? One single bird demolishes the entire company's reputation in the West? That shit will be nipped in the bud and you all know it.
Inb4 she does it as her RM... i mean, that can work, but this will sabotage notPomu's potential triumphant return. If Kiara's RM goes through with it, then association with Kiara will kill any good will notPomu has gathered over the years. God i hope she realizes that

>>72337473
That was never in doubt

>>72316770
no, they should be sterilized and forced to service incels for the rest of their sorry lives.

>>72337581
She's part of myth and has made numerous connections inside and outside hololive. So the so called unbiased rules would be tested if she pushes through. It would be unlike rushia situation who's already unpopular with the rest inside or like Mel who decided to part ways amicably realizing her mistake.

>>72337319
It's an opposite situation where unlike nijisanji who's management holds considerable authority over livers, in holoen due to certain changes near the end of 2022 the talent's has a lot more power and control should they wish to.

>>72319540
Yeah... Sadly it's working. In the beggining it was the sisters obviously false flagging and kfp coping with "she was offline and didn't know about it". Now you can see some kfp accepting that she knew, but maybe it wasn't that bad. Like this one >>72319105.
God, I hate that orange woman. I hope she stays away from Gura.

>>72338494
Regarding their own actions, maybe.
But this is bigger than individual talents since it can throw shade on the branch and the company as a whole (I mean, just look at nijien).

>itt insane schizos trying to convince themselves Mumei hates Kiara

>>72338787
Remember she's the type of person who won't care for drama and them 'haters' as long as she thinks she's right and protecting her 'friends'. Might break containment if she ever implicate other members though like gura, fauna, fuwamoco, mumei(uhhhh)

>>72339722
>while other schizos convince themselves that Mumei doesn't give a flying fuck about Doki and didn't went out to take care of her

>>72340396
The voices are telling me
>Mumei taking a break and the friend taking care of selen was just a coincidence and are infact two different people.

>>72316563
Absolutely based to support Doki in all of this. She actually might be the smartest western vtuber, the only person on Twitter who seems to know to keep her mouth shut & not kick obvious beehives.

>>72341065
>two different people
>coincidentally named shachi
anon...

>>72341490
Imagine though.

>>72340396
>>72341065
Nobody is saying that she didn't but mumei blalantly said that teh main reason of her break was for herslef, if you are oing to beliebve what other chubas say, then also believe in her instead of capitalazing her action for a cause. Looks like is hard to believe for some people that mumei has more friends now than just doki.

>>72337581
1. Stop believing some stupid ass conspiracy rrat
2. Her manager was literally in the room with her as she said she was going to meet some niji girls. The fact that you guys don't even know that despite writing these huge ass paragraphs says enough.

Selen being a lying menhera bpd fat grifter I knew it from the very beginning, and was called a nijinigger for it. Even though I don't watch or support anyone from niggersanji.

>>72315494
>really think Kiara was unaware of the drama
If you knew even the first thing about the chickenlady yes that is entirely believable.
She hasn't been /here/ for years because of how bad the drama affected her mentally and she distrusts drama-peddlers which is frankly the only sane thing to do even without her baggage. or do you think people pushing rrats are called scizo for no reason?

People are so quick to forget occam's razor. There is no grand conspiracy here, just a socialite who avoids yabs pushed by third parties making connections with people in the industry.

>>72341876
but but but kfp's told me she didn't know anything about dokibird and she did the right thing by helping her 'nijifriends' over listening to management's advice

Shitstain Portland NDF, you aint changing the narrative that easily NAW NAW!
Get your asses ready for the next round of Lux-Noc mud dragging.

>>72343255
Kfp is right she did nothing wrong fagoon..move on. You're making it clear that dookie fans will harass anybody who doesn't kiss her fat ugly ass.

>>72337581
Notpomu has managed to get the 'not completely innocent but a bystander' title due to this.

This thread is a trip.
>explicitly tells people not to treat this like high school.
>Twice.
>sisters treat it like high school and make retarded bait threads about how if X meets Y they totally hate Z, completely misrepresenting how normal human interactions work.

>>72343091
Indeed it's not like nearly losing a life is a big deal in this industry anyways. Kiara dealt with much worse inside hololive.

>>72342115
sure thing, sister.

>>72343715
please tell me you're just being sarcastic and I'm retarded because if that this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read

>>72343818
NTA but I'm sure he is.
I wouldn't be surprised if Kiara either doesn't know or doesn't care about all the drama. Either way, she doesn't have a horse in this race so I don't see any reason to drag her into it.

>>72343557
>explicitly tells people not to treat this like high school.
why do you still not get it? We don't care that Doki said this or that these are her wishes, we have decided (correctly) that the Nijiscum and their behavior is objectively bad and needs to be called out until the end of time anyway
I'm on Doki's side but she's a cowardly fucking retard for saying that shit and her wanting to let the fuckers get away scot-free

if it was me in her position I'd have gone scorched on all of them, fucked them in court and everything

>>72344126
Then do it and leave us out of it. Go put your ass in the firing line instead of hiding behind her like a pussy.

>>72344126
Doki is a fat piece of shit mate. She's taking the piss out of all of you fell for her lies.

>>72343091
She gets yabs by ignoring warning signs and not learning from past mistakes of associating with anything drama related.
If she wanted to avoid any issues and push through her networking she shouldn't have showcased it publicly(like not tweeting about it tf she can hangout offline whenever she wants what's the point of separating reallife and vtubing work at this point)when all the pieces of truth laid for the public's eye paints the entire nijisanji livers in a bad light except for a select few(the ones kiara didn't associate publicly with like scarle, vivi, rosemi).
When nijisanji tried to push the 'real' truth as they put it you know what happened with that black stream. So unless people speak up the truth collaborated by all parties involved, the current situation isn't making them look good and the fact that they still aren't is muddying the public perception(down through the floor and not caring about nuances anymore) as it goes on with nijisanji continuous yabs.

>>72344333
proof any day now, right sis?

>>72344743
Give them a break. In pakistan, having above a 0% body fat is considered obese.

>k*ara and kfpiss are the weak links in hololive
shocking

>>72344743
Get grifted faggot. You deserve it for harassing hololive talents simply because they all don't feel the same way about your oshi. Leave Kiara and hololive girls alone and go watch your fat bitch stream

>>72342115
nijinigger

>>72345010
You do know falseflagging as kfp is pointless because they're hololive antis right?

>>72345208
You're the anti faggot. The world doesn't spin around doki.

>>72345010
woah, projection much?
Nevermind, that's insensitive. Your country probably doesn't have enough food to go around for you to be fat.

>>72345323
Your racism is hilarious. Who beheaded your mother last night?

>>72345416
Dunno. It's pretty peaceful here where I live. Is that a common worry for you? No wonder you don't have money to spend on Nijisanji EN.

>>72345010
At least *try* to act like an actual KFP, tard sister.

>>72345010
you know we've already seen all of your planned falseflag tactics because you openly talk about it on your doxxsite, right? No one believes you

>>72345544
Man people are so sensitive this days am I right?

You guys are a riot.
Convincing yourselves that Kiara is some kind of evil mastermind is some of the funniest shit in /vt/ history.

>>72315289
lmao

>>72347175
>Convincing yourselves that Kiara is some kind of evil mastermind
nobody has said this but ok

>>72347175
she's not a mastermind, she's an insensitive retard who hangs out with the worst people and none of the holos should give her the time of day

>>72315494
Kiara is just retarded it's not that deep.

>>72347291
Of course no one said it word for word other than me retard. Just look at everyone in this thread thinking Kiara is some secret niji ally or whatever that forced Mumei to defend her or something. They really think Kiara is smart enough to do that or even care haha?

>>72347486
she didn't force her to do shit, mumei is too nice to refuse a senpai even if said senpai is a fucking dreg of society

>>72333736
kek

>>72345010
>projecting Nijikek

>>72347576
And other hilarious stories you can tell yourself.
Yeah dude I'm sure Mumei totally hates Kiara in your make-believe world.

>>72347486
Kiara is Austrian
Mumei is Canadian
By authority of the superior culture, the Owl must kneel to the Phoenix.

>>72347486
>Just look at everyone in this thread thinking Kiara is some secret niji ally or whatever
she's not a secret Niji ally, she's openly a Niji ally you retard
and it doesn't take any kind of genius Machiavellian intelligence for her to publicly hang out with shit-tier people for clout and networking opportunities
>that forced Mumei to defend her or something.
Mumei hasn't defended her or anything so I dunno wtf you're talking about here

>>72347837
just because she doesn't hate Kiara doesn't means she's totally fine with her and friends with her either you dumbfuck
Mumei isn't close to Kiara at all, her relationship to her is just that of a cordial colleague

>>72348038
>>72348130
Look at the poor sisters trying so hard to keep their drama alive. Don't worry sisters I'm sure that all-out war you dream of will happen anytime now.

>>72348130
Nobody gives a fuck stop harassing women because they hanged out with friends retard. You dokifags are no different than the clique that "drove" your oshi to "two" suicide attempts do you understand how much of a hypocrite contrarian that makes you look? Quit being retarded.

>>72348524
Nijisisters aren't slick at all, if you're going to falseflag as a hololive fan don't use the hololive anti fanbase

>>72348675
And now the sister thinks I'm a fake KFP to cope.

>>72348675
Fuck off back to your doxx site sister. And be sure to tune to vox next blow job asmr.

>>72348642
>group of people act evil and do bad things
>people retaliate against them and give them a taste of their own medicine
>"n-nooooo you can't do that, that's bad because... uhhh because... LE MORAL HIGH GROUND!!!1"
no, fuck off retard
when bad people do bad things they deserve to get fucked with in retaliation
the clique and their associates bad actions already make the same bad actions against them not bad by default
you're basically saying if you saw someone beating someone up on the street and you ran over and beat them up that this is wrong somehow just because 'you're doing the same thing' that's fucking stupid
the Niji vermin and anyone who sides with them SHOULD be harassed and bullied and anything else; you're talking about the kind of scum who made someone nearly kill themselves - no mercy deserved whatsoever

if Kiara turns out to be on their side and in support of them then she is also a villain and deserves the same shit too, it's that simple
I'm never gonna stop talking shit about nijiscum

>>72348524
>>72348861
you know we already saw you planning to falseflag as KFP and unicorns and call other people sisters and shit on the doxxsite, right? You're so fucking obvious it's laughable

>>72349552
Shut the fuck up retard Jesus take a shower. How desperate are you for your 5 dollar gift card sister

KFP are bros, fuck Dramaniggers and Nijisisters.

>>72349625
Just like Kiara, I'm not smart enough to do that either. But you can keep keep telling yourself that I am. It makes me feel better about myself.

>>72349625
>we
Who is we faggot? And for you to know what happens at those doxx sites mean you spend quite the considerate time in them organizing your moronic raid. Look, nothing you're trying to accomplish here will not save kurosanji from it's own inevitable demise. Is over and is time you accept that and if you're not going to accept that please do the future generation a favor and find the nearest bridge and jump.

>>72349692
KFP outed themselves as NDF though

>>72350049
According to who?

>>72350074
Me, I did it

>>72350049
Shut up Dramanigger(or Nijisister). No one believes you.

>>72350128
Kys retard.

>>72349864
>ESL
Anon, do your english reps
The other anon literally doesn't say anything you don't agree already: Sisters are a cancer to this board

>>72316563
it's ok, it means you are emotional. It's obvious there are many things we don't know that she might know, so I don't judge Kiara, but it still doesn't sit right to me

>>72349692
>>72349742
avatarfagging with random images doesn't mean you are those fanbases retard, how stupid do you think people are
>>72349689
it's so funny how you can do nothing but ineffectually whine here and on your doxxsite meanwhile most of your precious livers are MIA, Elira is stil silent and scared like the little bitch she is, your precious VOD comment sections keep being brigaded, dramafags keep milking your garbage company's retardation for endless content and fanning the flames, your stock is still down etc.
you're fucking losing. You already lost the public perception and the cultural monopoly on the EN market, everyone knows how shitty your company is now and you can't stop it

why would people like me not want to kick our enemy while they're down? The fact that it's known the niji en livers themselves are terminally /here/ makes it even fucking better
the dramafagging will continue until morale improves

Soooo it was just an insensitive dumb decision kiara made? No elaborate scheme, ulterior motives and mastermind plan and form a clique of her own with her on the top ...nothing?...
>laaame

>>72350567
Yes

>>72350551
So harassing anybody who doesn't kiss doki ass is worthy of your harassment?

>>72350567
Her trying to save Millie and Enna reputation still has legs though

>>72350551
You're retarded.

>>72350762
They are just some retard using Doki as an excuse to Anti Niji. Doki has moved on and so has her fanbase.

>>72350774
Dookiebird already won so she won't care if kiara saves them otherwise she'll be a hypocrite of saying to move on.

>>72350762
no, anybody who sides with and supports the people who hurt Doki are worthy of harassment
>>72350933
It doesn't matter that Doki has 'moved on' (whatever that even means for someone who was hurt that badly only a few months ago), she's too nice for her own good
the morally righteous thing to do is to anti Niji and advocate for the ruination of that evil place and its scummy defenders, by allowing it to continue going on uncriticized means you are allowing others in there to be exploited and harassed and for their to be no consequence to the livers' bullshit and their fans own harassment and malicious behavior
Sayu certainly doesn't seem to have any problem actively shitting on the company and cozying up to dramafags to do so so I don't see why people like me shouldn't anti them

it doesn't matter what you say now though, the ship has already sailed and public will is already against Niji, the moment it got covered by big dramafag youtubers it was already over

>>72351350
I'm not reading that. Here is your (You) Dramanigger.

It's cute that you're still sperging out but it's obvious to literally anybody with a brain. Kfpiss and nijisisters have the exact same writing style

>>72351350
Kys dramanigger off to your discord you go and don't come back

>>72351562
I'm /here/ because of the kfp homobeggars going to /#/ and twitter

>>72351471
>>72351638
you're just upset that it's your company in the firing line
keep seething

>>72352873
Anycolor could burn for all I care. In fact, I hope it does. You on the other hand are some Dramanigger who is dragging people who aren't even involved in this, Kiara for example. Shut up retard.

>>72344126
>if it was me in her position I'd have gone scorched on all of them, fucked them in court and everything

Sister, court cases cost money. Big money. And dont always go the way you want.

>>72347398
>this is your mind on nijisister mental gymnastics

I wish you luck if and when you get a job in the real world.

>>72349692
Based
Fuck the ndf

Alright, with all the sisters congregating here I have an Idea. We should start a thread where sisters post their tits. Hear me out. The validation from a bunch of guys telling you how sexy you are will feel a lot better than sperging out all day. Also, guys are more malleable and easy to manipulate when they're looking at boobs.

>>72351562
Nah fuck you and those nijisanji faggots

>>72353286
>dragging people who aren't even involved in this, Kiara for example
only if it turns out she is involved and on their side
it's dubious for now but she's on thin ice for even associating with them

>>72354437
>no u
child behavior

>>72355054
It's a statement not an argument

>>72354333
I agree with this notion. What say this council?

>>72314148
Coming back to this thread to see that it has tripled in replies, I genuinely don't know what you retards are sperging out or how you're getting drama out of this interaction of all things, but ogey I guess?

>>72357981
>Two holos interact on twitter
>Anons think of nijishitters and the interaction being a deflection since those two holos were supposed to be against eachother in some holoEN civil war that the catalog has been hyping up over the past few days
It didn't work out, so everybody is calling each other nijisisters while also sperging out about how everybody is KFP.

>>72358172
>Two holos interact on twitter
Kiara hanged out with the nijishitters in person you retard

>>72356631
I'm still annoyed I missed the last sister boobposting.

>>72357981
Thread was linked on the sisters' site.

>>72357981
NDF brigaded to back up KFP, failed miserably

>>72358407
Where? I've only been trawling the nina thread because all of the other pages are just actual psychopaths seething eternally.

>>72358256
Good job on your shitty reading comprehension, retard. I'm talking about retards making this twitter interaction who both me and the post I replied to are very clearly talking about the one between Kiara and Mumei about a dumbass holoEN civil war that was being hyped up for the past week or so with those two at the center of it while claiming that Mumei and Kiara interacting on twitter was just them deflecting from the "war' that is supposed to happen between them. That or it's retards thinking that it's Kiara attempting to "drag Mumei into the drama" despite it literally just being her @ing her over some pokemon art.

>>72358589
fact of the matter is kiara hung out with the dregs of nijisanji and acted all lovey dovey with them, war or not she should get cooked for that shit

>>72358993
shes not going to

>>72358993
No she isn't.

>>72358993
based

>>72354333
>he doesn't know

>>72315289
... I didn't even know you could bookmark things on Twitter. I'm not the most experienced Twitter user, but my eyes always just skipped over that button I guess. I've never seen a tweet worth remembering like that, the like button seems like enough

>>72365859
the thing is that likes show up publicly and help boost the tweet in the algorithm. Bookmarks are private and can be sorted through easily due to the expectation that you will have far fewer bookmarks than likes, and that others can't see them.

>>72358370
don't worry you're not alone, I missed that too.

>>72365859
If you have people who follow you that you don't want to get bombarded by your degenerate porn likes, it can be convenient

people are acting under the assumption that Kiara has read the gurrat or watched the black screen vid. She probably only has surface level knowledge of the whole thing or probably was doing other shit (remember she was on break too)
And if she’s been friendly with these people in the past, they invite her out, she probably thought nothing of it. There was probably no discussion of Selen. And if there was then they fed Kiara their version of the story.

It’s not black and white. Kiara probably doesn’t even know about Selen and mumei.

>>72358993
The nijisis and KFP loved that on twitter.
Only people seething are the dramafags /here/

>>72367165
so she was always hanging out with bad people, got it

>Hanging out with and tacitly endorsing the 2 most vile members of the clique
Someone explain Kiara's thought process to me

>>72315289
lol embarrassing. Never change sisters ya funny bunch of morons taking the Ls

>>72330589
On any day ending with Y this is typically their best.

>>72314148
WHERE IS THE HOLOTORI ALBUM?

>>72314878
nice headcanon
jannies should ban nijiniggers though

>>72315494
kiara tends to do this weird thing where she tries to see the best in people even if theyre complete cunts

>>72314878
To extend an olive branch, evidence on any specific NijiEN member doing anything harmful to Doki (outside the black screen stream) has been largely circumstantial. It's entirely possible that Enna, Millie or even Elira aren't the villains many people think they are. Not saying they're saints, morality isn't black and white like that, just that the truth might be more complicated. Maybe the real bully is someone nobody suspected, or that Nijisanji's white paper was poorly worded and the actual bully is some dickhead pencil pusher we don't know about.
I'm all for sinking the yacht, but realistically the tiny possibility that maybe the girls I used to like aren't all secretly backstabbing bitches is a cope I'd like to hold on to.

>>72367981
Like kson.

>>72367840
2025 Holotori Live believe

ITT, Sisters timelooping retarded arguments and dokibird insults while trying to rope KFP/Hoomans into the mix for more goold ol Doki vs Holo baiting, Dramafaggots and other ESLS try to respond but the shitflinging from the inbred pagpags is so noxious everyone just goes home and gives up, We are approaching bump limit, spam cunny until this is gone

>>72369113
Pretty much yeah.

Regardless of her intentions, motives, or "how retarded she may be",
Fuck Kiara, and fuck KFP. Nothing will ever change that for me. There are plenty of other holos that are more entertaining and talented. No skin off my back ignoring the bitch and acting like she doesn't exist.
This thread was wildly entertaining though. Reading all you retards sperg out and name call each other, it's like its primetime at the zoo. Kek.

Even in a vacuum, KFP and Kiara are some of the worst parts of hololive, Kiara being all buddy-buddy with alleged bullies and KFP blindly agreeing instead of scolding her retarded decision just further proves that

>>72369535
>>72370159
Suck my cock
Fuck the ndf
Fuck eggs
Luv Wawa
Simple as

>>72370605
KFP are the NDF you disingenuous faggot

>>72371214
No, I will never side with those cunts. Deal with it

>>72371231
yeah, because you're the same side already

>>72371337
Nope, this ain't some "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" shit

>>72371412
Kiara sided with nijisanji, KFP are too pussy to tell her off, they'd rather believe enna is innocent lmao

>>72367652
They're fans of her and is also corporate vtubers that's what you just need to know. Move on dokibird already said that, forgive and forget

>>72372248
Yeah just move on and forget after years of bullying and 2 attempts, genuinely neck yourself kfcuck