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73368057 No.73368057 [Reply] [Original]

Let's put aside the trolling for a bit, should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?

If they are that bad of a company, they would have killed off EN branch last month. They wouldn't just spam AR live and 3Ds and events and waste more money and resource on them if they want the branch to die after Q4, and many anons here even agreed that Riku's public apology wouldn't be so bad if not for Elira's black stream

Bad companies have risen from the debris to become a better version of themselves before. Can Anycolor do the same ?

>> No.73368098

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
No
t. Wisp

>> No.73368135

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
No
t. Dragoon

>> No.73368158

The Tagalog thread just outed themselves as a sister sess pool that is pro homo collab for advent and are also the Enna x Millie beggars for Holo.

The fans Niji has cultivated are a lost cause.

>> No.73368301

>>73368057
>Let's put aside the trolling for a bit, should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
Nope.

>> No.73368307
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73368307

>>73368057
Nijiniggers as a whole has been a blight on Hololive and vtubing in general for years, they were trash back then and they are to this very day
Total nijinig death

>> No.73368348

Sisters were the worst shit posters here and I still don't consider that fwmc doxxer as a ruffian since it's always sisters around him when he pops up.

>> No.73368529

>>73368057
>NijiEN a second chance
Why exactly? Since the black stream they either acted like complete morons unable to understand how to do a proper PR, or revealed that their way to do things is a constant and complete shit show.

Until we see actual good faith from them (aka not doing stuff to calm down the investors) there's literally no reason to give them any type of second chance whatsoever.

>> No.73368577

>>73368529
They have already taken their stance at that was throwing Selen away and they won't confess they are wrong. Nothing is going to save them moving forwards. No one unless desperate for exposure will join them.

>> No.73368593

>>73368158
you think it was all a meme? we’ve been telling you this for years now. rangeban everyone there

>> No.73368709

>>73368057
>Are we too harsh on NijiEN ?
No
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
No
>Bad companies have risen from the debris to become a better version of themselves before. Can Anycolor do the same ?
No

>> No.73368749

>>73368577
Well on a corporate viewpoint, giving the livers proper stuff (like working 3D and all), means to stream properly, redoing a bit the shitty contract, and also proper exposure would be a sign of good faith from them. About the livers, even a "we were wrong to do things this way and will swear to do better moving forward" even if they don't agree one bit with that kind of statement would be a good first step to reignite actual trust in the western sphere. (Idc if the management have them at gunpoint for this)

No need to say "we fucked up when we bullied and fired Selen sorry lads" but at least admitting in some way their fuck ups afterwards

The livers can't move on without acknowledging the black stream

>> No.73368789

>>73368057
Honestly, do you know how many chuubas there are? Any reason to eliminate entire swaths from your mind is a blessing.

>> No.73368832

>>73368098
Your oshi called Nijisanji heaven. She doesn't hate the place and is still friends with people there. Why do you want to make your oshi sad?

>> No.73368838

>>73368057
No

>> No.73368885

>>73368832
nta, she seems a lot happier now that she is out, so does the other ex-Niji, go back to wumao faggot

>> No.73368917

>>73368057
no, the faster we get rid of these k-pop fanbase tier bitches the better

>> No.73368927

>>73368832
The roach called Niji Hollywood, that doesn't mean she lived the big life there you fucking faggot
Go back to where you came from

>> No.73368982

>>73368885
this guy is just trolling. people should know about her lore by now and what she said on stream. literal NDF shill, just don't pay attention.

>> No.73368997

>>73368057
>Are we too harsh on NijiEN ?
no
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
no
>Can Anycolor do the same ?
I doubt it, but its too early to say
What is Nijisanji realistic gonna do to save their reputation?

>> No.73369019

>>73368057
No. The only way to really "fix" NijiEN is to fire all existing talents and replace them with utterly fresh meat. Judging by how retarded their management is, it won't be long until that fresh meat falls into the same blackpit as the current crop of retarded talents

>> No.73369024

The Nijiniggers and Nijidykes don't deserve an ounce of sympathy for their mismanagement over the years and I hope these Investors will continue to see why investing in a College Dropout like Riku shouldn't be given that amount of shares at all and pull out ASAP

>> No.73369035

>>73368057
We haven't been hard enough

>> No.73369109

>>73368057
>Are we too harsh on NijiEN?
Well seeing as they clearly have not learned their lessons and made amends for their crimes against Doki and Dayu, clearly Not Harsh Enough

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>>73368057

>> No.73369142

>>73368158
Wait qrd? What got revealed there? I refuse to visit the Pagpag thread out of principle.

>> No.73369205

>>73368057
They have already chosen their hill to die on..

So I say let them die on that hill.

>> No.73369216

>>73369142
Jannie actually deleted the thread so I'm not game to post it. Someone translated what kind of talk goes on and Nijisisters were discussing their desires to have Nerissa and Biboo collab with Holostars. Wanting to save Millie & Enna with Hololive connections such as that new dinosaur Hologuy.

>> No.73369321

>>73369216
That bridge was already burned. Millie could've waited to get nepo hired by the holo ID girls back when they were hanging out, but she chose the hanamori clique instead and became a bully as well

>> No.73369333

>>73368057
>Should NijiEN be given a second chance.
The three retards in the black video, as well as anyone implicated in Doki, Scarle and Sayu's harrassment, don't deserve a second chance. Everyone else I can take it or leave it.

>> No.73369348

>>73369216
>have Nerissa and Biboo collab with males

Motherfuckers.. Keep my cunny gemwife out of it. wtf is wrong with them
So its true all flips are pro-niji then? You'd think there would be at least a few of them who would be against niji

>> No.73369370 [DELETED] 

>>73368057
No

>> No.73369404

>>73369348
flips are all mentally ill shippers who would have all of hololive partake in homocollabs, nuke SEA is not a meme

>> No.73369431

>>73368057
>2 attempts
>black screen stream
>Luca document leak
>Toxic fanbase enough to make a blacklist for those who stopped supporting nijisanji including artists during selen's situation.

>> No.73369461

>>73369348
No idea, I did lurk and they said it's an ongoing issue so I have no idea how strong their presence is but that kind of lengthy discussion is easily on multiple topics easily 6 of them.

>> No.73369562

>>73368057
>AR live
Lucky for you, Niji didn't waste much money because it was already recorded last year, they just had to spend a bit of money to remove the livers who are gone.

>> No.73369568

>>73369348
There's an overlap with the flips/sisters supporting male collabs and nijisisters. They're both holoanti's the former just goes on a pipeline of holostar fan ->homobegging -> holoanti.

>> No.73369613

>>73369404
Now I see why many people don't want HoloPH to happen.. it would become a concentrated cesspool of homofaggotry and a safe haven for antis who despise the core values of Hololive.

>> No.73369657

>>73369348
Nijiniggers hate Biboo because she streams for a long time and never forgets to raid anyone in EN keeping general viewership and interest on Holo for pretty much all of prime time. She's also one of the few ENs who is amicable and open to collabs with everyone else making hard to do holo vs holo crap with her.

>> No.73369678

>>73369348
Nah. Not all flips are Pro Niji. You can see a lot of them actually hate Millie and I know this since most Flips posts stuff in Facebook. Nijitards in general are hated on that platform. Anyone you see that is supporting Niji that is a Flip is a minority.

>> No.73369830

>>73368057
>Are we too harsh on NijiEN ?
No... It's not harsh enough.
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance?
I would if only Riku makes a statement and he actually sits down with fans and talents rather than shareholders and investors. But the black screen stream came out before the statement from Riku it shows the company's incompetence in PR, management, and lack thereof.
>Can Anycolor do the same?
They had. Five chances is generous but all of them ultimately failed due to the same problems plaguing JP since the early years. Clearly they haven't learned their lessons on fixing the issues that plagued on the company, they deserved their downfall.

>> No.73369912

>>73368885
>>73368927

She seems the exact same. Just she doesn't have years of history on one account over the other
>Hollywood= good
LMAO

>> No.73370021

>>73368057
>Should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance?
FUCK NO. I had given Nijisanji in general my 2nd chance after their massive mishandling of my oshi Suzuhara Lulu. I found exactly one oshi after her graduation, and her name was Selen Tatsuki.
>If they are that bad of a company
The most idiotic thing a company can do after a major fuckup is pissing off the rest of their consumers, so catering to whoever left watching them is the exact bare minimum they can do.
>Bad companies have risen from the debris to become a better version of themselves before. Can Anycolor do the same?
An empire toppled by its enemies can rise again, but one which crumbles from within? That's dead.

>> No.73370086

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance?
No. Total niji DEATH

>> No.73370195

>>73368057
No the overall focus of the company is to maximize profit in the short term, especially to look good for shareholders/investors. Riku said so himself he isn't in it for the long term and just saw vtubing as a short term trend. Would explain the lack of investments towards the company and cheap staff hires.
>Why do you think later on most of their livers tries to copy how hololive makes their own content. Karaokes, 3d lives, Concerts, MVs etc.. when they initially started people praised them for being JUST streamers.

>> No.73370264

>>73369216
>Jannie actually deleted the thread so I'm not game to post it.
You realize the archive exists, right? You're not going to get banned for linking a deleted post unless it's doxxing.

>> No.73370317

>>73369216
So a literal nothing burger. Ok.

>> No.73370381

>>73369431
>Toxic fanbase
Yes, because the Holo fanbase /here/ is sooooo much better. Kek. I will never understand the moral fagging

>> No.73370405

>>73368057
Fuck off retard

>> No.73370425

>>73368057
No.
t. Dragoon

>> No.73370480

>>73370381
>Enough to make a blacklist to target ALL WHO SHOWED SUPPORT FOR DOKIBIRD

>> No.73370555

>>73368307
>Says a tourist from February
EN vtubing was a mistake. They should have never let you fags out of /pol/

>> No.73370612

>>73370480
>I talk shit about Reimu and Enna on a daily basis
>Don't say mean words to Mutahar!
Hypocrisy and moralfagging.

>> No.73370623

>>73370555
This is why some towns on Japan are closed to tourist, ENsharts ruin everything they touch.

>> No.73370633

>>73368057
Not harsh enough
Scorched earth is the minimum required

>> No.73370648

>>73370480
>No one on that list was bullied into hiding
>Kotoka has been gone for months after Holofags started harassing her
>Aloe tells her viewers to not harass the man in her doxx photo and to stop calling her phone number
>Towa
>Kronii
>Calli
>Fauna

Whatever you say, bro

>> No.73370651

>>73368057
No, but only because the branch self sabotaging so hard it'd implode is too fucking funny.

>> No.73370699

>>73370480
Show proof, Oh wait you can't. Oh wait you can't you keep on digging what happened months ago just to moralfag

>> No.73370769

>>73370480
Retard. who cares about doki we're talking about how toxic your shitty fanbase you loooove to parade being better kek.

>> No.73370805
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73370805

>>73370769

>> No.73370844

>>73370805
All of them are Holofags falseflagging. It's that easy

>> No.73370847

>>73370648
You forgot for en
>Gura
>Mumei
>Nerissa
Heh they keep moralfagging they can't see their own hypocrisy

>> No.73370874

>>73368098
fpbp

>> No.73370894

>>73368098
Same and based
>>73368832
Stop taking shit so literally you autist, it just fits with her character lore of being a ghost, having gone to heaven and then coming back due to "unfinished business".

So far since her redebut, she has only talked positively about / mentioned Matara and Dokibird, she's said nothing of real meaning about her experiences with the company and their other organs

>> No.73370898

>>73370805
Those are just holofags deflecting the blame, who else would attack nijisanji but then?

>> No.73370914

>>73370847
Forgot Ame too. Those faggots are still seething about being told to improve themselves

>> No.73370957

>>73369678
>Not all flips are Pro Niji
yeah but most of them are,nijisister are full of SEA monkey fujo,ph,vn,sg,my ID already leave niji after what happen with nijiID

>> No.73370966

>>73370894
>She positively mentioned Dokibird
What a rewrite. She never mentioned Doki. She alluded to her shitting herself and not wanting her reputation. After rabid faggoons raided her stream and forced her into checking all the supporter items, she said it was clever. That's it. She's never even said her name

>> No.73370975

>>73368832
Your MGS reps sister

>> No.73371002

>>73370381
>because the Holo fanbase /here/ is sooooo much better
oh yeah absolutely,ill BET MONEY for holo fanbase better,that is not even a question,holo biggest problem is just unicorn that now already split with many other GFE/cgdct vtuber like kawaii,idol or even phase

>> No.73371006

>>73370844
Says seething nijisister

>> No.73371010

>>73370966
literal retard

>> No.73371016

>>73368307
Oh, so holo is better than nijisanji? why do you keep on silent about the gender segregation and obvious favoritism for the girls then huh. Should we sweep them all under the rug just because nijisanji is currently failing, you're idol culture is the most parasocial thing that ever happened to vtubing as a whole

>> No.73371045

>>73368057
hell no

>> No.73371074

>>73370966
dubs of fanfiction

>> No.73371082

>>73371002
Uhuh keep defending sexist behaviour

>> No.73371095

>>73371016
Kek how retarded are you nijisister . are you living under some rock

>> No.73371134

>>73370966
> positively mentioned
> actually says "talked positively about / mentioned"
Watch your ESL, anon. That slash there is read as an "or", not an "and"

Even ignoring that, your reps are lacking. Not only did they have an ongoing joke about Selen shittin her pants, Mint also directly mentioned and reacted to Dokibird on her shinkansen stream and laughed at her appearance calling it "really clever, actually"

>> No.73371158

>>73370648
>>No one on that list was bullied into hiding
everyone even normiefag already know and dealing with nijisister harassing them
>>Kotoka has been gone for months after Holofags started harassing her
kotoka? who? sorry sister,but outside of your small niji bubble,no one know kotoka
>>Aloe tells her viewers to not harass the man in her doxx photo and to stop calling her phone number
yet nijifans who attack her because she talk about niji
>>Towa
living her life just fine?
>>Kronii
same,living her life just fine
>>Calli
even better she literally the most successful EN vtuber in terms of career
>>Fauna
if you watch fauna,she is thriving
now lets talk about nijiEN?
well no need,all 3 view/low 4 view,subs literally gone,reputation is completely gone,literally became the laughing stock

>> No.73371208

>>73371082
>Uhuh keep defending sexist behaviour
>sexist
sister what are you on about? KEK

>> No.73371214

>>73370648
>>73370847
I'm glad to see others are calling out these chuds for their shit. This board is so fucking cultish.

>> No.73371219

>>73371134 (me)

--which is obviously referring to her, it doesn't matter if she mentions her by name or not, everyone can get the context.

>> No.73371222

>>73371095
At least I know what is right

>> No.73371301

>>73371214
I came here to see where niji-s word was coming from and I was right, disgusting fanbase

>> No.73371308

>>73371222
>why does a female only group only have females

>> No.73371332
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73371332

>>73371002
Pic related was just last week. Harassing a guy because he said he didn't want Suisei in a game. You call people racist names all the time. Shut the fuck up with the moralfagging.

>> No.73371375

>>73371214
>>73371301
Hi Mae, kindly do the world a favor and kys please!

>> No.73371379

>>73371222
Today, Anon learned that idol and idol-adjacent agencies tend to only hire Females to play the role of "idols", a female-oriented position

>> No.73371407

>>73371332
They did that? what a bunch of hypocrites

>> No.73371450

>>73371158
>everyone even normiefag already know and dealing with nijisister harassing them
And not a single one has mentioned it
>kotoka? who?
I accept your concession
>Aloe deflection
I accept your concession
>Towa harassed for having a male voice in the background
>Kronii harassed for collabing with Altare.
>Calli harassed for going on Trash Taste
>Fauna harassed for telling saplings they aren't friends
Keep on deflecting to Niji. The Holofag fanbase is 10x more cancerous

>> No.73371572

>>73371450
Sister your top organ just tried to kill herself and all you can think about is harassing her to try again.

>> No.73371582

Nijisisters found this thread, huh?
this kills the nijisister
>Luca birthday flopped both in CCV and Superchat
>Doki reclaimed her Fortnite account from Niji
>Mint escaped the sinking yacht and is inclining
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by sisters over Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite mental health break
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop, maximum 3.8k CCV
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Vox fucked off to be white monkey on bilibili
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Play Button drama by Claude
>Hex yab comments when Zaion got fired for less.
>Uki "White people scare me" Violeta
>The "We love artists" psyop when Niji refuses to pay artists
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>AR Colors rushed out and butchered a lot of footage due to graduated livers, fucked over Rosemi and Petra.
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4 after being stalled for 2 years, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted
>Niji desperately spamming Iluna and XSoleil merch to get some scraps before the Q4 report

>> No.73371615

>>73371134
>The "it was banter " meme
It wasn't a meme. She said it twice. Just because it's said as a joke then doesn't mean it's a joke now. Mint was clearly annoyed at the faggons for spamming her chat to get her to look at Doki. She makes a singular comment on it being clever then moves on. You're larping that they're friends on the same level as her and Mata. This is schizophrenia

>> No.73371625

>>73371308
>Why doesn't the female group help their male counterparts?
Nijisanji is better with their mixed gen approach. Maybe if you weren't harassing us all the time and spreading your unicorn behaviour vtubing culture would have been better as a whole. What kind fanbase don't let their streamer collab with males within the same company?

>> No.73371667

>>73371572
Kuzuha did no such thing. But it would be hot if he was a girl.

>> No.73371673

>>73368057
lol no, the only reason they are still there is because they spend so little on them that they still operate with a profit

>> No.73371674

>>73371582
Autist behaviour, why so obsessed with other's past

>> No.73371702

>>73371625
>help
Why the fuck doesn't the company help Selen instead of bullying her to fucking suicide? Why is Luca allowed to have blatant contract violations but Selen and Zaion were crucified for complete bullshit?
Get the fuck out of here with your hurt feelings bullshit when people's fucking lives have been ruined because of you.

>> No.73371735

>>73371016
keep perfect nijitroon twitter drone, did you copypaste that from somwhere

>> No.73371739

nijiniger used to harass .live before holo became popular.
Once .Live went down and holo became popular, they started harassing holo.
All for the purpose of keeping themselves No. 1.

>> No.73371795

>confronted with them harassing people to actual fucking suicide
>complains instead that you insulted their boytoys.
God that fanbase is cancer. Just like that abhorrent company.
Thank god these women don't actually have enough money to let the branch live to next year.

>> No.73371801

>>73368158
I hate how many Filipinos are nijisisters... all the artist alleys in cons are just filled with luxiem art prints and stickers it fucking sucks

>> No.73371829

>>73371739
great history revisionism

>> No.73371835

>>73371615
Quite funny that you're calling me a schizo while you're answering to a completely made up "it was banter" argument that was never mentioned in my original post.
Are you telling me that you believe a grown ass woman is, with 100% seriousness and 0% irony, telling someone they "shit their pants" as a completely intended insult, or are you referring to an interaction not seen on the stream that you made up in your head?

> Mint was clearly annoyed
How so? Please point me to the point where she was visibly annoyed at her chat, because the nearest thing I could see come close to that was her telling them "is this why you wanted me to check everything on the train" while dying of laughter. I don't think a sane person would see that as "a clear sign of being annoyed"

>> No.73371841

>>73371332
If it's about that Niji mod than you really good in lying Nijisister. Oh wait did I call you now with racist word now, my bad :P

>> No.73371902

>>73371582
This kills the sister
>Multiple talents have PLs
>Hololive Indonesia gets mogged daily by Niji homos
>Hololive EN Myth gets mogged daily by Niji homos
>Gura has streamed 15 times over the last 237 days
>Ame has streamed 58 times over the last 237 days
>Mumei has streamed 84 times over the last 237 days
>Holo is so bad Mumei took a month long mental health break, still had meltdown
>Kronii has streamed 77 times over the last 236 days
>Kronii had a near suicidal meltdown on stream
>Fwmc abandoned their English audience to rush to JP. Streaming inconsistently for the past month. Cover has not helped them find residence
>Kiara outfit reveal flop
>Calli birthday flop
>Risu outfit flop
>Cover stock continuing to fall

>> No.73371947

>>73371222
Fuck off

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73371948

>>73371674
It shouldn't bother you though even if you bought it right?

>> No.73371951

>>73371582
>PLs
>Numbers
OMG THEY ARE LITERALLY HITLER!

>> No.73371973

>>73371158
I love how Holofags can so easily and conveniently ignore how toxic their daily threads shitting on their talents are when directly confronted with that fact.

>> No.73371989

>>73371795
>Harass people to fucking suicide
Your fanfiction sucks.

>> No.73372002

Love that nijinigger narrative went from "we are winning because of co-ed" to "you're only winning because you're sexist" lol.

>> No.73372010

>>73371989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4

>> No.73372015

>>73368057
They nearly killed a woman, their #1 talent no less, and tried to cover it up!

Then they put all the other talent's lives in danger by telling all thousands of angry Dragoons that one or more of her coworkers may have been responsible for the attempt.

Then did it all AGAIN, naming names the second time around, ending Elira's career in any form of online media for the rest of her life, and probably making her wonder if she can ever return safely to Canada.

So, no, if anything we haven't been hard enough, so long as their offices in Japan haven't been burned down and the yacht still floats... And while a lot of them are paid, it's yet another sickening strike against humanity as a whole that so many sisters still defend this shit, and that this would even be a question.

>If they are that bad of a company, they would have killed off EN branch last month.
Killing the EN branch on the spot would have been a sign that they were a salvageable company - but the fact they let it carry on, pretty much as if nothing happened, is just proof they are absolutely incorrigible. They are a threat to the entire vtubing industry as they are now. Sooner or later they will get someone killed, it's only a matter of time, and anyone who gives a shit about vtubers at large would want them destroyed before that happens, and all this goes from Youtube news, to prime time news.

>> No.73372019

>>73371835
>ESL doesn't know that to shit your pants is slang to majorly fuck up
>Blatantly rewrites what Mint said
Actually, she said "is this why you guys berated me into checking everything on the train?" I think her saying she was berated is clear enough evidence she was annoyed. Watch the stream

>> No.73372032

>>73371841
>It's not harassment when we do it

>> No.73372051

no, we need to be harder on them, burn them down and then salt the ground.

>> No.73372087

>>73371902
>Multiple talents have PLs
No shit they existed before Hololive, yet none of them are doomposting on it
>Hololive Indonesia gets mogged daily by Niji homos
Wrong, your best Homo is Luca and he get put to shame by a severely autistic indo girl daily
>Hololive EN Myth gets mogged daily by Niji homos
Not even Kiara does
>Gura has streamed 15 times over the last 238 days
>Ame has streamed 58 times over the last 238 days
>Mumei has streamed 84 times over the last 238 days
>Kronii has streamed 77 times over the last 238 days
Those are correct yet Gura makes more money than your entire dying branch and having breaks because of personal shit and health for the others isn't a "yab" of any kind
>Holo is so bad Mumei took a month long mental health break, still had meltdown
>Kronii had a near suicidal meltdown on stream
Holo is so good Mumei can take time off for her health (and not to mention to hang out with someone your shitty rivers pushed to suicide)
Kronii was being silly for april's fools
>Fwmc abandoned their English audience to rush to JP. Streaming inconsistently for the past month. Cover has not helped them find residence
They are streaming, going to live in another country isn't easy yet we have plenty of stories from other girls telling how accommodating and caring cover is toward them
>Kiara outfit reveal flop
Mogged to shit Millie with the worst performing outfit reveal i've ever seen in a corpo
>Calli birthday flop
Her live got 4 times your huge mariokart collab, i'm not going to compare it to rosemi's 3D debut because it would just be sad af
>Cover stock continuing to fall
They're doing fine, better than kurosanji, didn't had to buyback millions in stock and built a multi billion studio for their talents

>> No.73372094

>>73372015
>I'm a schizophrenic, here's my larp. They should do the terrible business decision to satisfy my mental illness
All that text just to seethe

>> No.73372111

>>73372010
>Hurr doki said so it true
Kys you gullible chud. And Holo doesn't get to talk after they tried killing Aloe

>> No.73372119 [DELETED] 

>>73371989
Keep deflecting how horrible your 'fanbase' is

>> No.73372127
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Let us all kiss and make up everyone no hard feelings ok.

>> No.73372160

>>73371951
>Vox fucked off to be white monkey on bilibili
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Play Button drama by Claude
>Hex yab comments when Zaion got fired for less.
>Uki "White people scare me" Violeta
>The "We love artists" psyop when Niji refuses to pay artists
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>AR Colors rushed out and butchered a lot of footage due to graduated livers, fucked over Rosemi and Petra.
>Kotoka is on an infinite mental health break
neither PL nor numbers, cope and seethe

>> No.73372166

Was it ever confirmed which niji was dating which?

>> No.73372168

>>73372119
You say as you deflect from direct evidence of horrible behavior from your fanbase

>> No.73372175

>>73372111
>sisters constantly admit that they doxxed and harassed Aloe to kill herself by calling her home so much that her abuse father beat the shit out of her further
>now trying to rewrite history to make themselves not the bad guy.
God we should've nuked SEA instead of japan.

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>>73372127
I ship this one more

>> No.73372190

>>73372111
They blame nijisanji for that one

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>>73368057

>> No.73372213

>>73372111
>And Holo doesn't get to talk after they tried killing Aloe
Newfag tourist sister doesn't know it was nijinigs as always

>> No.73372220

>>73372186
To save Vox's career from China he better start doing this lol

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>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
No, kys

>> No.73372264
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>>73368057
Watch whoever you like why does it matter what others do. I gave them a chance but stopped watching Pomu, Elira and Selen long before the recent drama

>> No.73372284

>>73372166
Kyo and Enna, Reimu and Vox

>> No.73372291

>>73368057
No. Total nijinigger death. They’ve had every second chance and dug an even deeper grave each time.

>> No.73372298

>>73368057
No

>> No.73372308

Nah Riku made the EN branch a centerpoint to his pitch to investors. He has to prove some expansion into foreign markets.
If he nukes EN the investors will flip out at him. EN makes as much in a single month as the ID or KR branches did in their entire existence. It's like 20% of his company's revenue, he can't afford to just axe the whole branch.
The problem is, that his shortcut to save EN is to load them up with JP fans. Which is literally the opposite of "foreign expansion". So this is a way he is deceiving investors. Pumping up EN with JP and then saying "look big foreign expansion". It's dishonest. They better demand an accounting of how many of the viewers and donors actually come from the western market.

>> No.73372343
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>>73372160
Kek, look at how small the list is without numbers and PL.
>Vox
Nothing burger
>Luca
Literal menhera hitpiece using faked discord messages as proof
>Hex yab
Sensitive holo pussies don't understand jokes
>Uki
Fuck Uki
>Don't pay artists
Because 3 artists came out and said so
>Sea concert, ar colors
A nothing burger.

Your list is dogshit. Seethe and cope.

>> No.73372353

>>73372111
Nicely played, but it was the sisters on this one, as always

Do your reps

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>>73368057
Never

>> No.73372410

>>73372343
I'm so glad that the rest of the western world isn't as brainless as you.
Well, I guess that was obvious since you clearly aren't part of it.

>> No.73372429

>>73372175
>Sisters constantly admit
Then show proof. What's that? You don't have any? That's what I thought. You fucks tried killing her.

>> No.73372459

>>73372353
>Nice try! But we can just blame Nijifags despite Aloe exclusively mentioning people harassing the man in her doxx and her fans calling her phone number

Your blame shifting and struggling is hysterical. Man up and take accountability

>> No.73372468

>>73372343
sisters disregards numbers and PL because it mogs them to shit
>Vox is a nothing burger because I said so!
cope
>Luca is a nothing burger because I said so!
seethe
>Hex yab is a nothing burger because I said so!
mald
>Uki
Fuck Uki
>Don't pay artists
>Because 3 artists came out and said so
so you agree with me it happened
>Sea concert, ar colors are nothing burgers because I said so!
dilate

Your whole post is pure cope, you have nothing to defend yourself with, you lost, and everyone laughs at you.

>> No.73372476

>>73369348
maybe the women are, but I find it hard to believe that many flip men like niji when the most prominent nijiflip organ openly said she doesn't date flips and wants a white husband, so any who still stick around after that must be genuine cucks

>> No.73372486

>>73372410
>Thinks the western world gives a shit about Dooki
Way to out yourself third worlder.

>> No.73372543

>>73372213
>>73372353
>JP unicorns harassing her for having an alleged bf
>Months before you fags became fans
>Hurr it's the Niji fault
Did the Nijis cause WW2 as well?

>> No.73372559

>>73368057
Sisters are the only NijiEN supporters left. They will never grow any other fans. NijiEN is doomed.

>> No.73372571

>>73372486
>esl

>> No.73372592

>>73372468
Your whole post is cope. Imagine crying because Vox streams on Billibilli and thinking that somehow matters. Dilate tranny.

>> No.73372639

>>73372571
>Doesn't know English so calls everything he doesn't understand esl
Keep exposing yourself pagpag

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>>73372559
Yeah, they're fucked. I guess that's one thing nice about it. They won't have long if this is all they have left. It's not like they have ANY growth in the western market, and all of the niji money is in taiwanbux.
Rosemi and Scarle need to get the fuck out as fast as they can. Hope they're high in the queue.

>> No.73372675

>>73372543
>>JP unicorns harassing her for having an alleged bf
>reusing Nijinigger narratives from 4 years ago
Sister can only lie and deceive, they have no defense. That wasn't the reason, it was because Aloe shat on Niji and the whole chink brigade came down on her and doxxed her
>>Months before you fags became fans
you are a tourist

>> No.73372688

>>73369348
Only the women. The women are mostly Luxiem sisters.

>> No.73372729

>>73372592
>Imagine crying because Vox streams on Billibilli and thinking that somehow matters
dear kindred, your milord abandoned you and left for chink money, i know it hurts but you dont have to cope so hard

>> No.73372741

I'm genuinely curious about how the Nijisister brain works. The facts all point to how shitty their oshi Anycolor is yet they still defend them to the death

>> No.73372743

>>73368057
Hell no, they should dissolve it just like KR and IN.

>> No.73372760
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73372760

>current biggest luxiem fags birthday stream at chink prime time
>4.35k
grim

>> No.73372768

>>73372559
They are doing a great job pissing off every one here. Let em cook maybe their strategy will pay off.

>> No.73372787

>>73372675
>That wasn't the reason
Aloe literally said it was. KEK. Are you covering your ears and closing your eyes?

>> No.73372793

>>73372675
>No u
Good defense retard. You're just as shitty as the Nijis you claim to hate.

>> No.73372807

>>73372741
It's a cult. They CAN'T be wrong.

>> No.73372835

>>73372760
>Risu can't even make it to 10k on an outfit reveal
You were saying?

>> No.73372845

>>73368057
Just look at this thread >>73336146
Nijiniggers deserve all the bad things happening for being insufferable shitposters.

>> No.73372848

>>73372760
>His prime time is 3AM
>His prime time is 10 PM
>His prime time is 9 AM

Can you retards make up your mind?

>> No.73372865

>73372787
>Are you covering your ears and closing your eyes?
sweet projection

>> No.73372877

>>73372807
See >>73372675 and stfu

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>>73371902
>Hololive Indonesia gets mogged daily by Niji homos
>>73372760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--WfCfg5530
lol pathetic

>> No.73372923

>>73372845
>Thinking niji is behind any thread slightly critical of Holo
Congratulations, you have schizophrenia

>> No.73372937

>>73372835
She made it to 13k (about 3 Millies) then people left after the reveal

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>>73372760
I always laugh when
>big Niji EN thing
gets mogged by Mint.
So in other words every time Mint streams.

>> No.73372975

>>73368057
No because they have no one left that I would want to watch.

>> No.73372980

>>73372890
>Squirrel girl has more than double the views of luxiem bday
holy GRIM. his fanbase really has tanked. I kneel, Risu.
Maybe Raz actually woke some of them up.

>>73372877
wrong quote?

>> No.73372984

>>73372923
Read the thread and you will see it's a fact. Oh wait, you're probably the one shitting it up. Die, nijinigger.

>> No.73372993

>>73370957
>least obvious indog
t. vietnamese

>> No.73373021

>>73371735
Can't refute my words

>> No.73373036

>>73368832
you never watched Mint’s graduation stream 3 years ago, did you?

>> No.73373052

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance
No thanks. God forbid letting holoniggers to share the fanbase I enjoy. Just keep them locked in their pedobait room full of 3'rd world holobrowns.

>> No.73373065

>>73372984
Racist

>> No.73373114
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Hi OP

>> No.73373184

>>73373065
Are you really complaining about that /here/?
Next you'll say we're misogynist or something.
>>73373021
Sister there's obvious male favoritism in Niji if you want to go that route. Aster, Luca, and Vox have violated their contracts countless times and yet somehow only Zaion and Selen saw any actual consequences.
But I know you aren't even arguing in good faith, so I'm just wasting my time.

>> No.73373312

>If they are that bad of a company, they would have killed off EN branch last month
Why would they do this? Investors are crying about expansion and other avenues of income. Especially with q4 reports coming up
> They wouldn't just spam AR live and 3Ds and events and waste more money and resource on them if they want the branch to die after Q4
AR and 3ds were recorded months ago, not releasing it would be the bigger waste of money. You can release and try to recoup expenses via superchats
Your entire argument are absolute copium of the highest quality
> should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance
On what basis? What have they changed? Has there been any change in effective tardwrangling? None. Every week there's been minor yabs and shitty pr. Be under fire for shitty PR? Let's release a #YIKES campaign so we can finally prove how tone deaf the social media team is. Under the pump for the Play buttons? All but confirm that organs don't get it or the option to get one via Claude Cuckmark. They just don't know when to STFU. The investor report even says they're going to do the bare minimum. If they want a second chance they have to do something to show they deserve a second chance

>> No.73373343

>>73372019
>to shit your pants is slang to majorly fuck up
Way to out yourself not doing your reps.
>clear enough evidence she was annoyed
Being annoyed at chat =/= hating Doki. You're finding ways to conveniently fit everything into your preconcieved narrative.

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>>73368057
I'l never forgive them if anything ever happened to Ewiwa.

>> No.73373384

>>73372848
>anon says chink prime time
>you assume that's his personal primetime
Do you realize what (you) just said?

You just said all of his fans are chinese.

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>>73373384
holy shit

>> No.73373534

>>73373384
No, I'm saying you retards have said any time he streams is prime time. Is his prime time all the time?

>> No.73373550

>>73370612
>Hypocrites
Look at your own behaviour first nijisister

>> No.73373693

>>73373534
>No, I'm saying you retards have said any time he streams is prime time.
>>73372760, the post you replied directly to, said explicit
>current biggest luxiem fags birthday stream at CHINK prime time
You in >>73372848 said
>HIS primetime
Therefore, you are saying HIS primetime is CHINK primetime, therefore you said
>His primetime is chink primetime
Q.E.D.

>> No.73373777

>>73373368
She's carrying some random Oji-san's bastard child but that's probably it. Probably.

>> No.73373811

>>73370648
>>73370847
>>73370914
>>73371214
>>73372343
>>73371674
>>73372807
>>73373052
These posts were written by women whose pussies haven't been washed in 3 weeks. You can smell the stench radiates from these posts.

>> No.73373897

>>73368057
The fact Anycolor haven't killed off the EN branch isn't proof they are not a bad company. NijiEN is terminally ill and suffering pain and humiliation. The kindest thing to do would be to put them down.

>> No.73373925

>HAHA all out war! Holoturd BTFO
>Wait, we're losing the war?
>Umm...how about we call it a draw?
Fuck off, sister.

>> No.73373995

>>73373693
Yes, the anon was insinuating that Luca gets the most views from the Chinese which is why he mentioned it. Thanks for clarifying

>> No.73374063 [DELETED] 

>>73369404
Those pagpag eating monkeys shouldn't have been given internet access. Now they are flinging shit everywhere.

>> No.73374167

>>73368057.

I don't forgive any of you.

>> No.73374213

>>73368057
>and waste more money and resource on them
But they aren't? 3D and AR were ready for a long time and never gave a fuck about it. They are releasing it now that they are panicking. Just a few edits here and there.

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>>73368057
They nearly caused multiple deaths. If anything we aren't harsh enough. They've had years upon years to change and they haven't.

>> No.73374444

>>73368057
>Bad companies have risen from the debris to become a better version of themselves before. Can Anycolor do the same ?
Anycolor has no prior experience of even attempting to fix their problems.
Ask IN, ID, and KR.
If EN didn't have such huge potential, they'd have given up already.
Repairing any branch is uncharted territory for Anycolor. Hiring students and pushing out more merch seems they are stuck in their old ways.

>> No.73374449

They have to earn it

>> No.73374590

>>73374247
They've succesfuly managed to put the blame of what happened to aloe as hololive's fault, even doxxsagi mentions it as the fault of hololive during his last video.

>> No.73374596

>>73374444
>Anycolor has no prior experience of even attempting to fix their problems.
Hey! They made the brave decision to fold the SEEDs project back into the Nijisanji brand!

It only took them almost a fucking year of constant complaints externally and internally and completely shafted almost every single member in it for the years following.

>> No.73374747

>>73368057
Just got here, no time to back-read, but..
TOTAL NIJINIGGER DEATH!!!
BURN THE BULLIES!!!

>> No.73374872

>>73371016
>why do you keep on silent about the gender segregation
hm? Hololive is better BECAUSE of gender segregation
I don't see you crying about VSPO being girls only too?

>> No.73374919

>>73370555
NTA but he is unironically right tho?
nijisanji was always shit. they were even fucking worse in the beginning

>> No.73375017

>>73374213
I wish we knew why they cancelled AR live... But it seems like organs themselves don't know

>> No.73375069

>>73373777
Trips confirmed it

>> No.73375095

>>73374596
Yea, tired of doing mass terminations of the complainers. And receiving fewer applicants for that scam. Change due to unsustainability rather than fixing.

>> No.73375131

Short answer: NO
Long answer: HELL THE FUCK NO, WE NEED TO GO HARDER

>> No.73375251

>>73372094
And if there was any humanity left in you, after a talent agency nearly killed one of its own, attempted to cover it up, and then put all of its other talents on the firing line, just to cover management's ass, you would be seething too.

>> No.73375265

>>73374872
Typical unicorns, maybe you shouldn't shit on your oshi's like kronii whenever she do male collabs. Creeps

>> No.73375381

>>73368057
The problem isn’t that nobody’s willing to give them a second chance, it’s that the company adamantly refuses to address the underlying reasons they’re having all these issues in the first place. Anycolor can’t close down the branch outright because it’s their only remaining venture into foreign viewership markets, but they won’t properly invest in a competent framework of backend management so the whole operation is functionally crippled. The talents can’t go one week without someone finding a new, interesting way to put their foot in their mouth because they have zero PR training and no support team to fall back on when general audiences push back against their dumbass social media gaffes. They’re scraping together every ounce of hype they can generate to try and push out big events like concerts and 3D debuts, but their viewership is absolutely tanking because people have seen that Anycolor isn’t willing to do what it needs to in order to win back their trust.

>> No.73375475

>>73375265
What the fuck are you even talking about you crazy fucking SCHIZO

>> No.73375526

>>73375131
Kek. She thinks she's doing something.

>> No.73375528

>>73368057
Fire Luca and I’ll believe it. Bonus points if Elira, Millie, and Enna are fired too

>> No.73375603

>>73375528
Don't forget Uki

>> No.73375627

>>73374872
Who the hell thought it was a great idea to make starsEN a thing? The only thing that came out of it is
>Being used as a weakpoint to attack hololive
>Male collab begging
>Cultivation of homegrown holoanti's

>> No.73375639

>>73368577
>No one unless desperate for exposure will join them.

anon... that's a nigh infinite, ever-renewing source of "talent".
can't wait for it to be another batch of talentless hacks though because the hiring people are still "anti-ableist" activists that are all just vox sisters, any anyone daring to show talent and growth will be sabotaged and publicly humiliated at every turn

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nah. i fell sad for the livers as long as they had not been involved in any of this shit. but anycolor can eat a dick.

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>>73368057
No one is stopping them from existing. It's just objectively all the worthwhile people left, the old guard have gotten lazy or involved in fucked up shit and they actively chase the kpop/twitter tranny crowd I want nothing to do with. Even if all their management issues were fixed there's nothing good there anymore.

>> No.73375841

>>73370021
What did they do to Lulu?!

>> No.73375916

>>73368057
So the real ask of your post is for AnyColor to be given a second chance. While the title and your first sentence is about NijiEN, the last two sections are about AnyColor.
>Second Section
All the reasons you give for NijiEN to be given a second chance are actually reasons for fans/former fans of NijiEN to give the parent company, AnyColor, a second chance.
>Last Section
This was your real intention the whole time. The reason you went about it in such a roundabout manner is because you know AnyColor has squandered its many "second chances". Given the history, community, management, and culture AnyColor has built/fostered, no amount of "second chances" will change the underlying rot.

>> No.73375927

>>73375841
The same thing they did to Selen, basically verbatim. Lulu got harassed by Niji livers, was made to graduate, and so she joined Hololive.

>> No.73375942

>>73371016
>gender segregation
cover based

>> No.73375947

Its well deserved in NijiEN's case. Yes, there's still some fine people in there like whats left of Obsydia, the Iluna girls and Ren, Fulgur, Doppio, Vanta, Alban...but for every decent talent in there they have 2 times the amount of yab machines. None of this is helped either by the fact that after Feb 2023, the company effectively refused to properly demonstrate the strengths of applying to their branch. Only Lazusydia got 3D models that year (2 years after the branch was founded), and Pomu couldn't even use hers since Anycolor refused to fix her janky model, yes there's con appearances and merch collabs but there should be more to it than that. They also courted what is undeniably one of the most toxic fanbases on the internet, a bunch of K-pop sisters who will harass their talents for any innocuous slight, like talking about Mcdonalds or Starbucks.
Viewership was already tanking throughout the past year due to what felt like a lack of support and constant drama, the black screen video was just the nail in the coffin and really demonstrated the ego of the branch and its talents. Doki coming out and admitting there was a second suicide attempt that she was forced to disclose just ended them right then and there.

>> No.73375978

This is like the 4th chance not 2nd retard sister anon

>> No.73376076
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No, I hope Meloco does naked dogeza and then seppuku

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>>73374590
>actually hololive made niji management drive doki to suicide

>> No.73376275

>>73375095
The SEEDs folks weren't mass terminated, they just spit in managements face because the entire project was them saying
>actually we don't want to market or support you or allow you to collab with real nijis
Now they're some of the more consistent earners in the company years later.

>> No.73376300

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
Absolutely not. They deserve to burn to the ground.

>> No.73376403

>>73368057
No
t.Sayufag

>> No.73376584

>>73375627
we know exactly who - name starts with O
I dunno why the fact that nijiEN males were successful only because of chinese fujos that will not follow stars escaped him

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>>73376584
and yet

>> No.73376680

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be a given a 2nd chance?
No.
t.Rosebud.

>> No.73376746

>>73376609
current nijiEN males are a far cry from what they were in 2022
which is in itself amusing but still I'd rather all holstars fuck off (in one way or another) and stopped leeching resources from hololive

>> No.73376861
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>>73376746
It's okay to say "I know Holostars are leeching fans from Luxiem/Noctyx and keep getting bigger" anon. They aren't leeching resources from the girls, unless you can name and source 2 times they literally did.

>> No.73376960

>>73375927
Wait, isn't Lulu an indie?
Her new channel is up since 1 or 2 years ago, she doesn't join Hololive.

>> No.73376991

>>73369216
What was in the OP? We have an archive

>> No.73377009

>>73376960
Sorry, I misread Lulu as Luna (which is who I was talking about). Lulu got stalked, and Nijisanji fucked up assisting with it.

>> No.73377118

>>73368307
I don't even watch kurosanji and they can burn for all I care, but don't you fucking dare use my oshi to shitpost, fuck you anon. And you all yourself a holofan.

>> No.73377141

>>73368057
They've been fucking up for years now. It took a ridiculously high profile fuck up for people to finally say "man this company is really shitty huh?"
It's not a 2nd chance, it's the final straw.

>> No.73377241

>>73376861
I don't think they are? their SC mostly in usd when nijiEN males get mostly NT$
>They aren't leeching resources from the girls
yes they fucking are, retard
are you stupid?
do you think they have their own 3D studio or something lmao?
they get same production quality for their 3Ds while bringing like 10 times less views than girls
it's fucking pathetic and ACTUAL preferential treatment

>> No.73377774

>>73376861
Cute Ayra.

>> No.73377790

>>73371332
>>73371407
Anons shat on him, his post was reported and he was, presumably, banned. Your point?
Not to mention he could have been a falseflagger, but I digress.

>> No.73377893

>>73371801
I hate this country so much. Streamers were meant to be my escape as refuge.

>> No.73377915

>>73368057
No burn it to ground so all esl get stuck on Holo or vshojo or some other corp i dont know.

>> No.73378117

Your higher ups are the leeches and the ghouls, nijinigger, they prioritize greedy shareholders high above the well-being of your oshi who make its success possible. They perpetuate this callous disregard for human dignity and goodwill, a toxic environment full of jealousy and pettiness.
Your oshi is beholden to repulsive jap boomers with beer gut more bloated than their ego, these jingoistic suits have no love for the work and the content, no intention of actually expanding outside of their glorious nipponland gaijin donto understando, charlatan fucking retards are the first to jump on any get rich quick scheme and tech grift bullshit, they will gladly plant your talent's face into the fucking dirt if it helps their profit margin. They only attract uneducated sisters that will grovel at the feet of any strongman populist.
This company is a not just a joke, it is a moral failing. Your oshi has been tainted by this cancer, and if you're still willing to defend niji, so have you. Let go or be dragged.

>> No.73378168

>>73377009
What?
I didn't know that...
Anycolor and Riku deserve the worst.

Thank god she's out of there now.

>> No.73378232

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance
No.

>> No.73378365

>>73374590
Because it was Hololive's fault. EOP pissants act like they know what happened during an incident that took place before this board was even a thing

>> No.73378375

Lulu got stalked but doesn't care because its been so long and nothing had ever happened yet but Niji is concerned which stops her from streaming so she left in good terms, became an Indie to stream again who is probably getting still stalked but nothing has happened yet. get your reps right.

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>>73368057
>Are we too harsh on NijiEN ?

No

>> No.73378694

>>73368057
A wide swath of their talents have been proven to be garbage and their fans are actual subhumans, so no. They should all rot.

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>>73378117

>> No.73378845

/vt/ uniting under the banner that is laughing at Nijisisters' expense

>> No.73379076

>>73377241
I don't think any member of EN should get any resources either, yet those cunts are standing on the same stage as actual Hololive members. You're fighting a dead cause brother.

>> No.73379103

>>73378845
The people who hate Niji the most seem to be anons whose oshis were in there, they can give first-hand accounts, just look at Wisps and Dragoons. Niji EN fucked up big time and they will never have any success in the west again. Especially not since their only talents that had any pull in the west, Doki and Mint, are now gone. Anycolor will never get that their target audience will always choose the talent over the company which leaves them with nothing but SEA tribalists.

>> No.73379166

>>73379076
JP sharts would kill half of their roster just to get Gura and FuwaMoco.
Yes, JP are generally better but it isn't universal and there's plenty of good in EN.

>> No.73379304

>>73372019
>to shit your pants is slang to majorly fuck up
Literal subhuman retard

>> No.73379357

>>73378365
lmao you stop trying to rewrite the history nijifag
fucking hilarious that you still sue "EOP didn't know what happened" cope just like back then

>> No.73379393

>>73375251
Uh, the only person killing anyone was the BPD menhera. Niji never tried to cover anything up and the talents know they're innocent so they volunteered to reveal even more information. This post will you seethe for an eternity and you will moralfag

>> No.73379453

>>73379076
ENs brough a fuckton more money and exposure to hololive than stars ever will
like I get it but at least they won't look like pathetic leeches during quartal reports LMAO

>> No.73379484

>>73379393
nice cope

>> No.73379497

>>73368057
The problem is, if you have an oshi in NijiEN, how do you trust them not to fuck them over like they did with Selen?

>> No.73379525

>>73377009
Damn? She got assistance? That's more than Hololive did with Aloe and Mel. Common Niji W

>> No.73379553

>>73379393
NIJISEETHE

>> No.73379596

>>73379103
Sincroknights absolutely detest Niji as well, for obvious reasons

>> No.73379689

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
I'm willing to give them a second chance if they get rid of all the shitstain livers and hire some actually decent people.

>> No.73379691

>>73379596
I have to apologize, I just never seem to get how she calls you guys...

>> No.73379938

>>73379103
Shut the fuck up. Everyone knows the majority of people shitting on Niji are Holofags and Phaseshills. Doki was just a convenient weapon to unleash the pure autism that was building up from faggots allowing dramafags, doxx posters and SEA containment breakers into the community

>> No.73380001

>>73379689
Just to expand on this, I want them to find EN equivalents of Yashikizu and Shellin for the males and Sango and Lulu for the females.

>> No.73380131

>>73380001
You are asking too high of a price anon, nearing impossible even considering how retarded the west is to create something as close to those four or atleast the two of them even.

>> No.73380149

>>73379938
Yep, it was evident after the Kiara apologists that even the kurosanji reddit is controlled by holofags.

>> No.73380675

yesn't
next thread
bye

>> No.73381100

>>73379393
Are you retarded?
Do you actually believe that, despite every good thing everyone outside of niji said about doki
She was somehow this secret evil person inside the company harassing coworkers?

>> No.73381659

>>73379525
She mentioned getting stalked as one of the reasons for graduation btu I don't see how it would help when she's just went indie and still streaming... Unless it was unironic nijifags who were stalking her and wanted her out of niji or something...

>> No.73381707

>>73379938
yeah none chinese side of nijiEN fans were all holofags LMAO
you are delusional

>> No.73382039

>>73379691
No worries, she finally got a poll done to finalize the name recently...

>> No.73382138

>>73379938
Have you ever stopped to consider why Niji is getting shit on by literally everyone else? Hint: Niji might be a very problematic organization with a horrendously toxic fanbase

>> No.73382176

>>73368057
To this day they haven't still acknowledged the black frame stream, talked about the bullying allegations or even tried to calm down the schizo sisters. I don't care about 3D debuts or concerts, I just want my oshi to be happy and work in a safe place. Anycolor just cares about the money.

So, no, they don't deserve a second chance. I still like some of the currents organs and I'll gladly throw them a couple of views when they decide to graduate, but I won't support NijiEN in any way, shape or form after what they did to Zaion, Pomu and Selen.

>> No.73382218

>>73368057
reminder to avoid using nijisister because its a racial slur

>> No.73382305

>>73368057
Haven't been harsh enough.

>> No.73382592

>>73368057
>Let's put aside the trolling for a bit, should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
We already gave them a second chance, after they fired Zaion.
They spent their second chance breaking Pomu's heart, driving Selen past the point of no return twice, and doing God knows what else to the others.

>They wouldn't just spam AR live and 3Ds and events and waste more money and resource on them if they want the branch to die after Q4
They're not spamming events to save the branch, they're spamming events to save the rest of the company. Q3 was such a disaster that the stock dropped to the circuit breaker, and Q4 is doomed to be even worse; the EN branch is hemorrhaging revenue, and they will wait until after Q4 ends before they close the branch so as not to tank their stock price even further than it already is. This is also why they're not announcing any graduations or terminations this month, unless there's a disaster that's too big to sweep under the rug and hide from investors - Luca breaking NDA and doing multiple other severe contract violations without even the slightest hint of punishment, is apparently NOT too big to sweep under the rug and hide from investors; so a termination before the end of the month would have to be for something bigger than that.

They will terminate someone on or shortly after May 1, though. They'll probably sack one or more of Aster's victims, citing that they broke NDA by sending Raziel proof of his harassment (without a hint of irony or self-awareness that they're not firing Aster for that same harassment, nor firing Luca for his NDA breach). Or they'll sack one or more of the talents who slandered either Zaion or Selen for apologizing to them for that slander, if they've apologized to their victim (none of the talents slandered both of them).
Or they'll sack Scarle for the kurosangi comment and/or the dakimakura, or Fulgur for going on his PL to report that Scarle was okay, or Petra or Aia for doomposting and sadposting and victim-of-harassment-posting on their PL.

Or they'll hold a Roman lottery, and immediately "graduate" or terminate whoever draws the short straw(s), and put out a white paper saying they cannot continue to support the fired talent(s) because of Selen. They currently have 31 talents, so Decimatio would mean firing either 3 or 4 of them (firing 3.1 talents is not an option because they can't fire one tenth of one talent) at once.

In any case, May will be fucked.

>> No.73382773

Doesn't matter if you give it a second chance, their audience is 90% women who do not give a shit and you continue to look desperate and drama-hungry.

>> No.73382808

>>73382773
this 90% women audience started to abandon them before current drama even started

>> No.73382830

>>73379103
Pomudachis are still fine with Nijisanji lol look at her biggest simps like Oimo and Takezo they're still holding out for big sister Wiwa to return

>> No.73382846

>>73382773
This. I don't think they deserve more want a second chance. I genuinely want Nijisisters to suffer as much as possible

>> No.73382877

>>73382808
yeah and the ones here who think Niji is suffering any sort of karma or consequences for firing Selen are delusional

>> No.73382879

>>73370894
She did. Mentioning heaven gave her fake wings she couldn't fly with, which was one reason she came back.

>> No.73382942

>>73369431
>2 attempts
>That the general public knows of

>> No.73383035

>>73368057
NijiEN is full of bullies, they got what was coming to them

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>>73382830
Go buy a rope, you dickhead. Niji can get bent for shitcanning Pomu's once in a lifetime opportunity. Any assholes still stuck in the past can get fucked.

>> No.73383196

>>73382830
>Pomudachis
you mean manwhores

>> No.73383216

>>73383135
She still calls it heaven :^)

>> No.73383295

>>73383216
You omitted the part about the cardboard wings. How convenient for you
>smiley face
Your axe wound fucking stinks.

>> No.73383317

>>73382877
they are "suffering karma" for being a shitty black company for years

>> No.73383528
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Second chance?

Collectively, no. I doubt it. This reputation hit is massive enough where normies are even looking into what the fuck is going on.

Insider info mentioned a few rrats back about how the Livers themselves attempted to fix this PR nightmare by themselves, especially on stuff to tweet and having confirmation and such. Honestly, I don’t know why they don’t just hire a PR firm to fix this.

Oh, I definitely know why. You see, when companies under go massive hits in reputation through horrible PR or any other reason, other JP companies use this as leverage in the form of confirmation bias.

Nijisanji could definitely have just hired a PR firm, but JP corpo culture is leveraged against them.

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>Arguably three shittiest people in NijiEN plus Vanta
My condolences, vantafags

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>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?

No.

>If they are that bad of a company,

They are. This isn't in dispute anymore. It was in a point of dispute after Zaion was fired. Now however it is definitive.

>Bad companies have risen from the debris to become a better version of themselves before. Can Anycolor do the same ?

No. The rot isn't just at a corporate level, at almost every level- it is infected with toxic people with terrible morals, ethics, behavior, natural bullies, and some of the worst people you want to deal with in work and social circles. The good people and good fans have left the company. They ran them off with their decisions, mistreatment, behavior and actions.

>> No.73384820

>>73368057
>should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
That would be pointless, because the branch is functionally dead already. Viewers are gone, donators are gone, the main talents are gone or checked out. They can keep going almost indefinitely, because they'll be able to cover their operating cost even with the current level of revenue (look at how long Wactor and Prism held on), but they will never get back their previous numbers and they will never be able to expand again.
Closing the branch would be the smartest thing to do at this point.

>> No.73387031

>>73368057
No. Fuck NijiEN. Fuck them even harder because all the clique of bullies are still there and enjoying the redemption goodies. Rose, Scarle, Ren and couple more need to get the fuck out from there ASAP.

>> No.73387210

>>73372642
I don't know for scarle but half of the dramatubers have made jokes about rosemi being next in the past few weeks so fingers crossed she can finally nope out before their next big fuckup

>> No.73387337

>>73379393
How to recognize a sister ?
Simple
>BPD

Hello sister, how's your menhera sexpest white monkey vox ?

>Verification not required

>> No.73388412

>>73368057
There's a part of me that wants NijiEN to go back to its pre-Iluna days, but every time I see NijiEN fans post on here that part dies a little bit more inside.
The recent happenings with Mint was disgusting. Basically, Mint's chat asked her to check lunchboxes in Shinkansen to find a Doki reference, which she found and joked about. Nijisisters were so determined to turn this into a yab against Doki (or her fanbase) that they raided /mint/ with their bullshit and stunk up that thread for the better part of SEA hours shitting on Dragoons.
Like, trolling in the catalogue and having a piss war against the holos is one thing, but fucking with Mint's thread to try to use her as a weapon against Doki is a new low I didn't ever expect them to ever sink to.
Holobronies can be pissants sometimes, sure, but they didn't even go this far against Magni and Vesper who many of them hated with a passion. The sheer unwarranted malice that so many of the sisters here have for Doki makes me wary of ever supporting a NijiEN comeback.

>> No.73389850
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never forget - never forgive

>> No.73390221

>>73383701
I feel bad for Vanta at this point. The dude genuinely had no clue how bad shit would hit the fan, and he probably had low expectations as it is.

>> No.73390830

>>73368057
>Let's put aside the trolling for a bit, should NijiEN be given a 2nd chance ?
No and anyone looking to audition to Niiji should really think twice about that choice.

>> No.73391085

>>73368057
I'm not seeing any real improvements. The clique is still there, the manipulative lying people were not punished and didn't learn a thing and I doubt this will ever change. The only good thing with the approach to this about NijiEN is they won't have any new members in the foreseeable future and won't be able to poison anyone's career anymore.

>> No.73391546

The only way to remove cancer is to destroy all of the cancer cells. I hope Riku has enough money to kill all of the nijisisters if he wants his company to survive.

>> No.73391585

>>73388412
That's nothing new though. We've had sisters raid /lazu+/ regularly since Selen's termination. Drama raids also happened often for every niji yab and every time Elira manifested signs of life.
There's no more coordinated attack there since the /mint/ split but that's because the drama raids mostly stopped (they got the split they wanted). Only the sisters continue hard at work and they will obviously target /mint/

>> No.73391702

>>73379103
It's still unreal they lost both pomudachis and dragoons this year and fucking died.

>> No.73392137

>>73369613
You're schizo posting too much anon.

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