/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>73711444
She will pull a Pomu soon

see >>73632794

>forced to announce that most of her content would be cut
>not allowed to say why most of her content was cut
>the whole world knows why most of her content was cut
>the sum total of her content which isn't cut is... a song.
>takes a break from streaming so she doesn't cry on stream because management broke her heart
You Are Here
>the rest of April (Q4) happens

wuv da wose, hope she goes indie or gets picked up by a better corpo

>>73711444
Twitter schizos analysis of this writing style compared to her normal tweeting style?

>>73711444
>>73711765

>>73711444
Let's be honest here for a second. As fun as it is to blame everything on Niji's incompetence, the more likely explanation is that she's just drained from the ongoing drama. Or, worse, some idiot sent her hate/threats.

>>73712709
the women who infest this board are all the same. they'll pretend to give a shit about a chuuba's wellbeing only if they can be used as a bludgeon in their console war niggertry. all of them mock the very idea of empathy because they are narcissists who are literally and not figuratively incapable of understanding it.

>>73711444
>Rosemi talked in members yesterday that the girls had a variety segment that was a gameshow hosted by Rosemi. She probably put a lot of work into it, and in the end it was totally cut from the show because of Selen's menhera breakdown.

>>73712952
Consoles are at least physical things that you can touch/smell/lick/rub against yourself. These people are loyal to a trust fund baby's pump-and-dump scheme. I'll never understand it.

>>73713023
>menhera breakdown
That’s one way to paint it black

>>73713023
>because of Selen's menhera breakdown
LMAO how long are you retards going to seethe about Selen? The concert was essentially cancelled until Selen forced Niji to air it to save face.

>>73711444
she sounded fine during her members stream and had also mentioned this before the ARlive
but of course no one watches streams and just dramaposts

>>73711444
>3D flopped
>only had 1 song in AR live

>>73713284
>The concert was essentially cancelled until Selen forced Niji to air it to save face.
It's funny how insane it is to even say that. Like you would think "Oh that concert that got cancelled 1 or 2 years ago? Yeah they finally started to work on it again so they had everyone fly out to Japan and record new songs".
No, they just released shit that was done a year ago in order to save face, but removed anything that included everyone from Selen all the way back to Nina.

>>73711444
Feel bad for Rosebuds because it's clear they got scammed but they can't let out their frustration without potential civil war with other sisters who simped super hard for the live

>>73713023
>IT WAS SELEN'S FAULT REEEEEEEE
Fuck you and your whole branch. She should have been supported and she wasn't. She was stabbed in the back as she was leaving and stabbed again a week later for good measure. Its actually amazing how all of you are BEGGING that selen didn't leave when you were all saying she was "negligible" for months. WHO'S NEGLIGIBLE NOW?

>it's Selen's fault that we fired her instead of letting her graduate

>>73713023
Selen's drama is the only reason the AR even ever got released

>>73713557
>>73713602
Wouldn't Pomu also have recorded stuff as well? Why isn't she getting shit on like Selen is?

>>73711444
reset her mental what?

>>73712709
>the more likely explanation is that she's just drained from the ongoing drama.
You mean the same drama niji incompetence created and their psycho fanbase continues to perpetuate day in day out and you yourself are helping try to deflect from?
That drama?

The live was thrown into development hell for over a year for reasons so bullshit the talents themselves openly rebelled on twitter the moment the news broke.
As a result massive parts were cut entirely due to various talents leaving because they couldn't handle management's utter bullshit any longer.
Rosemi got especially fucked over as her main collaborators were the two most fucked-over members of the entire branch.
And now here you are saying
>nooo not everything is managements fault!
Yes. Everything is managements fault. Fuck the management and fuck any and all excuses. Management is the root cause of every single problem right now and that is not hyperbole.
Also special fuck you to the sisters that keep trying to drag doki into this and saying she's the reason members like rosemi have been fucked over. There is a special room in hell for your ilk.

>>73712952
>>73712952
it's a insincere don't you think to claim we're all the same or that we don't care I personally wish the drama would end but it does not seem like kurosanji will be doing that anytime soon

>>73712072
apostrophe checks out. I think she's actually depressed and taking a mental health break and not a skinwalker.
schizo out.

>>73712072
schizo reporting in
the apostrophe in the second "I'll" is straight, therefore the post is legit
>but apostrophomancy is a pseudoscience
sorry poindexter, but the anon specifically asked for a schizo to take on this task

>>73713557
As if they actually flew to Japan to watch the Holofes concerts

>>73712709
Reminder that rose STILL hasn't removed Selen from her intro. The sisters probably despise her as a filthy traitor.

>>73711444
Huh? Why don't you ask the other high earning Vtuber? Why they are taking break aren't they successful?

Come back Miki

>>73714039
I pray her and Scarle get the fuck outta this garbage company soon

>>73711444
I know you are here Wose. Just graduate and return to your PL already. I'll even become your new paypig daddy.

>>73713905
>their psycho fanbase continues to perpetuate day in day out

Bro you're the ones who tried to make drama out of "Conglatulations" and grainy AR Live screencaps

>>73714173
>greyfag
>never watches the streams
Okay retard

>>73714218
>greyfag

>>73714243
sister your fans' response to someone's attempted suicide is "she should've tried again"
Fuck you.

>>73711444
>Two best friends in the company both leave, one on OK terms and one in a big public shitshow
>Gets humiliated at a tournament in her favourite game
>Least watched 3D debut in company history
>Almost all of her appearance in the big 3D concert cut at the last minute
>All this year and we're only halfway through April
Yeah man I'd take a vacation to clear my head too.

>>73713853
Cause Pomu was/is a bit of a yes woman. She doesn't like confrontations just like Rosemi, while Selen wasn't afraid of calling out bullshit. They hate Selen as much for what her termination has done to them as for who she is.

>>73712047
phase soon

>>73711444
She should move to Phase Connect

>>73714243
>"Wah you're the ones!"
>Excusing the utter shit management does to your supposed oshis
Fuck you you're part of the problem along with management. You're not even real fans, you just exist to be evil pieces of shit that slobber on the cock of corporate evil and destroying the very people you claim to worship.

>>73713924
It’s unfortunate that especially in these times, anons tend to bundle everything together and get lost in that fog. It was already commonplace, but after the discord leak and the increased doxxfaggotry, I can see why it happens.

>>73714417
> while Selen wasn't afraid of calling out bullshit.
Pure fiction and history rewriting. She took the blame and fell on the sword at literally every opportunity. Even in her LAST EVER STATEMENT about niji she was saying shit like "I'm not perfect" and "If this was a month ago it would have been different, But i just wanna move on now" She literally.. LITERALLY at every opportunity made excuses for them. Even after the black box stream gave her a panic attack live and fucked over her neopets, Even after the termination notice unprompted that smeared her career and painted her as both lazy and malignant, She just moved on, Confrontational my fucking ass

I hope Rosemi comes out of all this OK

>>73714446
>>73714562
>phasebegging over a meme

>>73711444
She saw what it looked like afterwards

>>73711444
Because you're all a bunch of psychos.

/vt/ did this. You. All of you. You're all fucking evil, scum sucking assholes trying to destroy her and the other livers.

>>73714039
Shut the fuck up.

>>73714911
Tell me how /vt/ has an impact on the organs if they don’t allow it to affect them further.

Most HoloEN members go on a break for a month before and after any major event

>>73714911
>vt did this
You mean Nijisanji?
Last I checked, we're not the ones who fucked over her concert, her 3D live, and whatever else she had planned over the last 3 years.

>>73714243
Conglatulations was fucking hilarious given this is supposedly the biggest vtuber corpo with over 3 years in the en market already

This is just coping for consuming shitslop

>>73713991
what about a non schizo analysis?

>>73714173
>letting go of scarle
>one of the few money farms remaining
don't know how to describe it but they are 100% doing something to keep her around after that aster shitshow and the kurosanji comment hearting and that sudden disappearance where notfulgur had to reassure everyone

Midsemi Midlock

>>73711901
>May or June arrives
>Notice: Graduation of the NIJISANJI EN Liver Rosemi Lovelock

>>73713441
Of course not. But we need to save da wose!!!
We need to send more tweets and comments and make more threads and posts telling her to graduate! Surely that will cheer her up.

>>73715038
Why are you deflecting with your headcanon?

>>73715038
>Last Vox stream
>3 months ago
LMAO

>>73715098
Thank fucking god. If it broke down pomu and selen, who knows what the hell they're doing to her in there.

>it's over
>no bday merch

>>73714039
I'm surprised they haven't terminated, suspended, or otherwise bonked her for it yet.

>>73715236
They simply can’t afford to. Had the headwind gone in their favor, she’d have at least been stealth suspended for it already.

>>73715018
May 26th, 2024
12:00 PM JST

>>73715180
Gura

>>73715018
>inb4 Rosemi has been posting these for weeks herself

It's such a shame. Rosemi has such a good model, and she fits it well.

>>73715436
Shouldn’t you be frothing at the mouth because she did stream yesterday?

>>73715180
Oh nyo...

>>73711901
you forgot
>her friend and ex-coworker ruined her dream

>>73715620
>has to bring Gura out of retirement just to compete with Nijisanji
nice job holokeks

>>73715098
At this point, it be a relief more than a struggle.

>>73714911
The begging is rude no matter what, but it wouldn't be so bad if at least people were encouraging her to go indie.
But no, she MUST go to le ebin phase or she MUST go to holo. I wish the "people" in this thread and on twitter would get some self awareness and realize that they are the ones constantly stressing her out.

>reset my mental

>>73715696
I know that your goal is to accrue a (You) or two, so here, you slut.

>>73715645
>if I keep posting Rosemi vs Selen, it'll become true!
Watch her intro sometime, dumbass

>>73715620
>Mumei asks Gura to do a SNOT stream at the same time as the concert to avenge her friend
Based owl

>>73715793
Yeah sister, we should all just go radio silent and give her the impression that she has no support if she leaves. Please sodomize yourself with a cactus.

>>73715793
I don't give a shit where she goes, but I'm definitely not going to watch her as long as she's part of Niji.

>>73714713
She should try out for tsunderia

I hope Advent get some kouhais soon

>>73715081
rose is sad

>>73716123
Cutting Rosemi and Scarle's streams out of my life SUCKED. I hate it. I still have Rosemi's wallpaper on my phone. I just can't in good conscience support Kurosanji.

>>73714173
Scarle is happy being where she is, shes literally on her own island in the kurosanji sea and shes just doing her own thing while her mama pampers her with outfits and art

>>73715793
>she MUST go to holo
I've not seen anyone say this desu

>>73716463
Did you watch the same aster collab that I did?
She sounded like she was at gunpoint, and then after it was done had a members stream where she cried for half an hour.

>>73716513
And the very next membies she said she was being taken care of and is happy where she is, your point?

>>73715081
My non-schizo take: who the hell uses "mental" to refer to mental health?! Is this a dumb twitter thing or is this a Japanese ESL using a dumb loanword term like メンタル and thinking that EOP also uses it in the same context?

>>73716556
Yeah, I don't believe that for a second after her seeing the shit go down for sayu and doki.
She's just keeping her head down until it's her turn to leave. Anything less would be a really, really stupid decision with how the branch is looking right now.

>>73716644
Ah yes, you're right, she should tell her loving mama to go fuck herself for all the outfits shes gotten and should go back to an indie flesh tuber/cosplayer and enjoy her no stream labs and her thriving 2view channel
Moron.

Assuming she is wishing to leave when her contract expires, do we know when that contract expires?

Will rosemi really graduate? She feels tied to the company due to just buying a house and is worried about potential success as an indie

>>73713284
You do realize that the dramaniggers (you in other words) would have been just as down their throats as you already are if they canceled it again

>>73715798
The irony of you posting Selen. Bitch should have copied Rosemi instead of taking 20 Tylenol. Probably didn't work because she's too fat and needed more. You know you're a failure when you can't even kill yourself properly. Twice!

>>73716636
It's used by quite a few large EN indies.

>>73711444
>Rosemi had a mental breakdown
How about you address your own talents mental breakdowns before speaking.

>>73716855
Holy NIJISEETHE

>>73716855
I think the other image you were using for this kind of posting was more effective desu

>>73716636
I see people use the term pretty frequently in online games and stuff, though mostly to refer to someone's mental fortitude rather than their mental health.
Like, if someone is a sore loser who goes apeshit at the slightest inconvenience you'd say they have "weak mental", but someone who's chill and rolls with the punches has "strong mental".

>>73716855
Maybe leave the MS Paint to the NDFers who aren't blind.

>>73716636
I was just about to post this. I have never in my life, excluding the past couple of years, ever seen “mental” used as a standalone noun. It has always been an adjective (you’re mental, etc. as a rude or funny way of saying crazy) or used as a part of a noun phrase (mental health, mental wellbeing, mental breakdown).
I would see it in MTLs of Japanese, perhaps as a direct translation of some word. But now I see it used by English speaking vtubers, and only vtubers. It’s really strange. What is your “mental”? Your mentality? Though that refers to a way of the thinking. I really think that “mental health” is the word they’re meant to be using, but maybe they don’t want Japanese to think it says “menhera”. Or they’re ESL.

>>73716813
She debuted in July 18th 2021, and we know that first contracts lock livers for 2 years. If we assume she was hired 2 months before debut, her contact expires mid-May, of either this year or next year, depending on whether the renewal was for 1 or 2 years.
So basically, she is either leaving by the end of May, maybe end of June at the latest, or she's staying for another year.

>>73715840
they only watch men

>>73713231
I've suspected for some time a big chunk of the Sisters don't even actually watch Nijisanji, and just use it as a platform to attack Hololive. I don't see how any fans of a given Liver could be in favor of a known black company continuing to abuse their oshi. I also don't really believe "the company is their oshi" stuff either.

>>73713853
NotPomu is currently in good with the clique and is seen as siding with Nijisanji against Doki at the moment, so the Sisters avoid slamming her most of the time. They've also been spreading a claim that Pomu was never in the concert so her leaving couldn't have disrupted it, despite her voice being present in the show at one point.

>>73717108
Oh, so it’s like an online gaming thing? It’s still a weird thing for native English speakers to say. Are those ESLs then?

>>73711901
Have they tried not harrassing someone into 2 suicide attempts?

>>73717294
They could just fucking ask for their reputation back.

>>73715038
Yes because those events were live

>>73714911
It’s true anon. In a few cases where NijiEN’s talents leave, they get unpersoned to where even some appearances of their zatsubackgrounds get covered up, see most of Noctyx (excluding Fulgur) for Yugo’s appearances being covered up. The fact that Rosemi still showed Selen demonstrates there’s no bad blood.

>>73717262
It's annoying, but I'm at least glad that the sisters so fucking ESL they don't understand banter or relationships. Mint really doesn't need this shit right now, and Doki doesn't care what people think about her relationships.

>>73717294
Wouldnt have been two suicide attempts if she didnt fuck up the first time

>>73717282
Native English speakers (particularly vtubers) have started using it in the past year or so, no idea whether it originally came from ESLs.

Why won't anyone acknowledge my meltdown?

>>73717534
Chances are high its either tiktok -> twitter or just twitter

>>73717520
You should show her how to do it, anon

>>73717581
I dont have the balls to even attempt it, but since i have a penis, i tend to actually not half ass things so if i ever did grow a spine id do it right and not survive

>>73717520
>"Before anything is discussed, there is something very important that we, Nijisanji EN, feels need to be made very clear. All of us do not condone harassment of any kind to any of the parties involved."
Elira Pendora

>"So regardless of how I now feel about Selen having been my friend and having hurt me and my fellow livers in this way, **her attempt on her life will never ever be something to be taken lightly**. I recall the moment when I and other livers found out about what had happened, and we prayed for her safety then, and we still do. To those of you watching this stream, please, please leave her be. Harassment of any kind is vicious, and it's insane, and it has no place in this community. That's all I need to say. Thank you."
Vox Akuma

>"to round this off, I want to reiterate, please do not spread hate to anyone involved in any way, shape or form or anyone in general, honestly."
Ike Eveland

>>73717520
attitudes like yours are why everyone hates nijiniggers

>>73717672
Rose on left
Thorn on right

>>73717627
>ignores "his" oshi's request to not harass people or take suicide lightly
>admits he doesn't even have the balls to do what she tried to do twice.
>thinks this somehow makes him a tough "guy"

That's cool guys, you don't need to listen to my cries for help or anything

>>73717645
I hate niggersanji more than i hate dooki but i hate dooki because this shit has been going on for months and has not seen any end to the spam of this fucking board

>>73717565
This bitch has a meltdown every stream she doesn't light one up.

>>73717627
>since i have a penis
Have you not crowdsourced the money to have it cut off yet?

>>73711901
>>73715098
kek

>>73711444
Multiple graduations including Rosemi's were waiting on the completion of the AR live and potentially other projects. Announcements should be coming in May.
I've lost count of how many vtubers both corpo and indie announce graduations very shortly after debuting new models or other projects.

>>73711444
>>73711901
NijiEN sure makes themselves easy to hate

>>73717735
Women suicide for attention so they half ass it and survive more often
Men suicide to get off this fucking earth
>>73717794
Why would i cut off the one joy i still get out of life?

>>73717758
>I hate a chuuba because people are retards on /vt/
Very rational response.

>>73717758
>dooki
Neck yourself nijinigger. Only one side is keeping the drama spinning and it isn't doki or the dragoons >>73706151

>>73717876
>lemme point at the one obvious dramanigger thread that slanders the retard instead of the 17 obvious dramanigger threads that support her
Okay.

>>73717282
The term came from games like LoL, so it's not really an issue of ESL

>>73717565
I never really watched Kronii, I just jerk off to her porn and pretend she’s in Fate.

so why did it take niji over a year to release it?

>>73717843
Coward won't even put "his" money where "his"
mouth is.
No wonder you're here seething on an imageboard anonymously instead of saying it where there are actual consequences.

>>73717758
dookie already moved on lmao it's the nijiniggers who keep bringing this shit up anyway

>>73718011
AH yes, you're right, clearly this thread is a thread made by a nijinigger

>>73717996
Whose seething? I just simply stated that if you're gonna attempt something, do it right, especially if its gonna take a second attempt

>>73717940
>people hate nijisanji
>somehow it's the fault of the one person who's ignored them for 2 months.

>>73717876
You fags literally had 4 threads the other day about how she got a fucking pc case. Shut the fuck up you lying bitch.

>>73717170
all language will increasingly resemble mtl or generated text as that becomes a larger portion of what people read
if you care about the integrity of your mind you have to leave the internet and only read or watch or listen to things made pre-2010ish

>>73717993
They didn't. It was recorded in September/October 2023.

>>73718092
Way to miss the point pagpag. >>73718111

If only you knew how bad things really are

>>73718150
buddy at this rate I think you think about my oshi more than I do. Just give up and stop making or participating in these shitty thread.s

Imagine the BTS for NijiEN
>The first to graduate is schizo tranny who was forced out after having panic attack and mental breakdown episodes on stream and twitter
>Next to go is a habitual liar who basically convinced everyone to hate Xsoleil. Finana, her own art-mama, and Nina/Matara...all while she then half-assedly makes apology videos/tweets for each of them when people figure out she lies
>Then one of the flagship males quits because he is getting 1-guy'd every other day on socmed and his leech from Indonesia is telling him to get out
>Then the "mom" of Ethyria is leaving because her own wave hates her, and in turn she reaches out to males and vshojo
>Now the unironic actual Mito-equivalent of NijiEN, and the #1 fangirl of all of Nijisanji is walking because the non-existent management of EN branch let her once in a lifetime chance collab oppurtunity slip past for no reason other than their own stupid ignorance and laziness
>What could have been a good backup to Mysta is leaving now too, despite being in "the clique" everyone talks about, because apparently he was better at hiding all the hate people gave him for being friends with resident bitch
>Lastly the biggest magnet for esports, gaming, product collabs, and corpo sponsored events is being fired because the aforementioned management either didn't greenlight the cover song she had in the works for a literal year, or forgot to send it up the line for the graduated talent cameo
>Your boss and CEO is pretending to invest money in your branch for the stockholders, but in reality he's just waiting out Q4 to drop the whole program
>You can't say shit because your silence is the only lingering thing you know is still 100% yours

>>73718091
Don't go down this form of shitposting, man. That's just plain fucked up and no fun for anyone.

>>73718300
Once they try once, the people around them will always have it on their mind thinking of ways to try and stop the next attempt

>>73717818
Iirc for Niji they’re required to complete all their sponsor and project obligations before they can graduate so the AR live need to be finished before any of the golden 20 can leave.

>>73717993
Any number of reasons. Punishment for what happened during the Secret GC stream, the performances of the males not being up to the standards of what they did for prior JP showcases, not having any proper 3D models at all for other members around the time they announced it, anything. And the use of Pomu or Mysta’s voices definitely doesn’t make it seem like it was all recorded again. Maybe it was saved as an “in case of emergency break glass” situation.

>>73718252
It is still bafflingly retarded that Nijisanji’s management didn’t let Pomu collab with an actual idol group. They let these lovers run free to say the dumbest shit but god forbid one of them actually be granted a real opportunity (unless male, as Nijisanji only cares about the males in the company.)

>>73717756
If she just came out of the closet and found herself a decent woman she'd be fine. She just needs to get over her friend.

>>73715062
>"conglatulations"
What did I miss

>>73718041
No, you're right. Dokibird personally came /here/ to make this thread and she personally makes all the anti-Niji posts.

>>73718359
Honestly I think it’s because they pissed off someone important in JP, whether it be management or influential livers.

>>73718462
I guess you're from the SEA area since you completely missed the nuance of my post. But keep responding with your empty headed responses

>>73718370
doing a large scale collab like that would require effort, time, coordination, and genuine concern for the end result from both parties
You'd be lucky for Nijisanji management to give even one of those things for the non-JP talents

>>73718359
My theory is that the management at the time actually knew that the Live was garbage quality all around regardless of who’s graduated and not in it now. You’re right about the emergency break glass release for sure. Nijiniggers are so incredibly stupid they don’t even know that they should be thanking Selen for this coming out in the first place. After all, if Nijisanji hadn’t made so many bafflingly retarded decisions, both financially and managerially, then their situation wouldn’t be so dire as to release the live in the first place. Sisters will be mad at Selen for this shit Live but will refuse to acknowledge that it was postponed for no good reason and was likely the catalyst that led to Mysta saying “fuck it” and graduating.

>>73711444
No, you won't *turns off your phone*

>>73715097
Rode-me Leglock

>>73718386

>>73718506
No, but you decided to ignore my original reply to your comment about how you hate "dookie" because of all the spam /here/, and how it's not a rational response to hate a vtuber because of retards on this board. It makes me think you're not being honest when you claim you only hate her because of spam.

>>73718552
You’re right. I should temper my expectations when it comes to anything involving this bottom feeding company.

>>73718486
It would even be that too. Maybe they stepped on the toes of one JP senpai’s event. Maybe EN’s arrogance was no longer seen as endearing and JP wanted to put the branch in its place.

>>73718617
Oh, im sorry, i didnt know i was obligated to reply to every post thats posted in this thread. My bad sister

>>73718252
management either didn't greenlight the cover song she had in the works for a literal year, or forgot to send it up the line for the graduated talent cameo
You forgot the part where the fat cunt posted it anyway and broke the rules and then asked for people to re-upload it, thus breaking the rules again and nullifying any copyright argument.

>>73718617
Anyone who says they hate someone here because of spam is actually a retard. It is so incredibly easy to not look at/filter the things you don’t like here. It’s a terrible and disingenuous excuse. Sisters aren’t sending their best.

Why does nobody care about the pain they put us through?

>>73718612
kek

>>73718662
>posted it anyway
It was a scheduled post for like a week+, and management only stepped in 2 hours AFTER it launched, retard

>>73718662
And YOU forgot the part where she was clearly at the end of her rope mentally and literally right after telling people to reupload it she attempted suicide and ended up in the hospital. Of course you'll respond with "THAT WAS FAKE KEKEEKEKEKKE SHE TOOK PILLS KEKEKEKEKEKEKE" Or some other demeaning garbage to cover for the fact that she was VERY clearly done with niji's bullshit. And all the times they fucked her over for the past god damn year

>>73718612
Okay thats stupid and funny

>>73718662
But I don’t care that she did that as she attempted suicide quickly after and was clearly incredibly distraught and not mentally sound. Even if she wasn’t any of that I still would side with her over the company as the company was/is/and has a history of being absolutely horrid to its talent. You likely will never understand this as you are a bug person.

>>73718662
>Fat cunt
But enough about fulgur
Seriously tho why do you fucktards keep calling her fat and dookie?.. why are all your insults so infantile and feminine?
>Doxsisters
Oh right nevermind answered my own question

>Thread about Rosemi
>Nijisisters having a melty about Dokibird and Kronii
... Awesome!

>>73718757
>Mangement fucked up so I can steal from the register
Holonig logic
>>73718774
>Muh suicide so I can break the rules
She brought it upon herself by not waiting. Doki screwed Doki

>>73718359
>Maybe it was saved as an “in case of emergency break glass” situation.
Yup.

Also the Mario Kart thing that was supposed to happen 2 months ago, and Ethyria's 3D debuts. And if Luxiem and/or Noctyx get their 3D debuts in May/June, then it means that was also behind that glass.
Note that there are 8 golden boys, but only 5 or 6 weekends between Reimu's 3D and the Q4 report. And none of those weekends will actually be in Q4. Their debuts will probably happen more closely to each other than the O/E girls.

>>73718662
So... was following the rules worth it?
Is the company better now because they followed that rule?
Did that rule do its job of protecting the company or its employees from issues?
or did they release a fucking PAID CONCERT that didn't even have proper perms despite being in production for "over a year"?

>>73718774
So shes allowed to do whatever the fuck she wants despite the rules because shes mentally having a hissy fit and tries to kill herself

>>73718252
Genuinely can't tell if you're a retarded sister or a malicious fagoon

>>73718884
Niji is desperately trying to get good PR atm, they even announced some kpop song duet thing.

>>73718651
So I was right about your reason for hating Doki being complete bullshit. You're more intelligent than the average Nijifag, I'll give you that.

>>73718872
Why is your mental so brittle? People here make fun of everyones names, dooki just flows too freely

>>73717534
Pretty sure its an esports thing, and bled into vutubers through apex. Not saying apex invented it just that they keep getting invited to tournaments.

>>73715645
kill yourself faggot

>>73718886
The only reason it wasn't worth it is because when they tried to explain how Selen broke the rules she instantly changed the narrative to make herself seem like a victim with the whole "muh suicide" shit.

>>73718662
What is it with nijisisters and the anons that copy them calling doki fat? Is it just one of those mean girl tropes that only the most unaware of women spout unironically?

>>73718912
Considering they called Yugo a schizo tranny, they're not a fan of Doki.

>>73718945
Im indifferent, im for the talent i like, and dont give a shit about talent i dont find entertaining. I also dont side with any corpo and only watch livers or chuubas for their content or personality. I am basically subbed to or memby'd to several different vtubers across like 4 corpos and many indies.
Im just procrastinating going to bed by posting in this bait thread

>>73718902
>>73718880
Rules need to have a reason to exist. If all they do is fuck shit up, then they NEED to be changed.

Following stupid rules for the sake of following rules is just retarded. That's how you get korean morons flying planes into mountains because they're too scared to tell the captain that something's broken.

>>73718985
Sisters saw her dox and insult her apperance. Thats it.

>>73718985
yes only women or feminized men would use that as an insult

>>73718876
The nijisisters will be seething about Doki for the rest of this board’s life. Probably the rest of their lives, the rest of my life. I don’t think they’ll ever stop seething. The best part is that their seethe will always be impotent. The culmination of all of their seethe is bait threads here. Sad.

>>73718872
>Hurr ur insults are infantile
But it's ok when Holo does it, right?

>>73711444
Yeah why

>>73719061
The reason the rule in this case exists is because youtube is a nazi platform that strikes your account arbitrarily as well as just auto mutes your videos if it even slightly suspects copywrites are not being followed

>>73718662
1. You can’t even greentext properly, anon
2. You didn’t even deny the argument, anon.
4. You couldn’t help but use unoriginal braindead responses, anon.
5. You didn’t even notice I skipped the number 3, anon.

>>73719101
>Post 20 doki threads a day
>Gets told to stop
>Hurr niji sisters seething

>>73718982
So what you're saying is... following the stupid, bullshit rule fucked them in the ass?

Huh, how funny how that happens. It's almost like the company is incompetent and that rule never should have existed.

>>73719031
Yeah, you better fuck off to dreamland, you lying bitchass.

>>73718912
well considering sisters are 100% niji boot lickers and this post is completely against every decision they've made....

>>73718982
She was a victim regardless. It’s unfortunate for all of the sisters that they were born subhuman and are incapable of siding with the talent over the company.

>>73718355
That, plus also the part where management is desperately trying to save face before the investors by pretending that none of the talents are in any particular hurry to leave the sinking yacht.
Because, you know, nothing appeases investors like a rushed and scuffed pre-recorded concert with over an hour of footage unceremoniously deleted, and a fire sale of cookie-cutter merch.

>>73718662
Literally nobody in the western world cares about perms bullshit or corporate bureaucracy, Nobody. You constantly screeching about the MV isn't appealing to anyone. Its the reason the black box stream failed so spectacularly.. NOBODY FUCKING CARES. NOBODY CARES if she was right or wrong for posting it or telling people to reupload it. They care that she was driven to the brink and attempted suicide right fucking AFTER. They care that her fans were LIED TO by a corporate skinwalker telling everyone she was fine. They care about the nearly 2 months of radio silence where nobody knew what had happened to her or what was going on. The most popular female talent in the branch. One of the most spotless and professional vtubers in the scene. And when we FINALLY get news?. It's a termination notice with a ton of fucking bullshit. The same bullshit they did to zaion. They took their BEST talent and threw her under the bus and ran her over and backed up to run her over again. Defaming her and attempting to smear her to the point she could never have a career again. With lies about her not paying artists or breaking third party copyrights. And after she came back they called her negligible. Their most popular female liver.. negligible.... And THEN a week later they fucked over her neopets stream with more smears about her being a doxxer and secretly recording vox and whatever other bullshit they said about how she "betrayed and lied and hurt their feefees" Talking about a document that was an HR complaint privately signed to be confidential that they had NO RIGHTS sharing with other talents but they did anyway.. Jesus fucking christ no matter how much you timeloop and lie and pretend we all didn't watch it go down live. You nijiniggers will NEVER be able to rewrite the established facts or history. Any attempt to do so is met with the facts and the whole fucking drama being brought back into the forefront as everyone remembers just how much of a cancer your black company truly fucking is

>>73719102
you wouldn't pass the turing test

>>73719150
You dramaniggers are just free realestate for (you) farming, thanks for the hours of entertainment~

>>73719139
>post 10-20 anti-Doki threads every day for about two weeks after Selen's termination
>rest of the board start posting anti-Niji threads
>NOOOOO! STOP SPAMMING THE CATALOG!
The only reason you're complaining is because you weren't able to turn the narrative against Doki and in fact actually turned it even more against Niji.

>>73719139
I accept your concession

>>73719169
I think it all hinges if they fail their yearly report. I think they’ll stop giving as much of a shit as they are now. They also have to answer to shareholder questions the month after their report.

>>73719174
So basically
>Nooooo dooki can do no wrong she got in trouble for her own actions and when she got reprimanded for her own actions muh suicide
Seethe more.

>>73716636
>>73717170
Apart from what >>73717108 said, which probably comes from "mental game", it's normal for niche subcultures to develop their own neologisms or adapt words from the main language of the subculture. Think "oshi" and other JP loanwords.

>>73719178
You wouldn't pass a fitness test.

>>73716853
You do realize that they sat on it for over a year, didn't bother making new recordings for it and let the girls part being less than hald the fag's time
They announced that shit 2 weeks prior to release you dumb motherfucker

>>73719357
roru
rumao

>>73719159
Kek, subhumans like you break the law, so it's no wonder you support a rule breaker.

>>73719316
Yes, and the point is that the entire world outside of niji believes that her actions are worth more than the entirety of Nijisanji.
Doki's going to continue to grow and become a core part of the western streaming scene while Nijisanji will be forced back to japan and china.
Hope you get used to bilibili.

>>73719316
Seethe more nijinigger. Any day now it will all turn around.. any day now....

>>73719174
They are Asian sisters, Anon. They will never understand. They were all raised to lick boots. They are incapable of siding with the individual.

>>73716853
Fucking gaslightning piece of shit. Sisters are fucking mentally deranged, man.

>>73718662
Every other reply to your post is DOKISEETHE but Selen never even bothered sending the video to be reviewed until Christmas Eve like a retard

>>73719378
They rerecorded a bit of it in october 2023 but since selen's termination, theyve not had time to recall the girls to rerecord it a 2nd time so they just cut most of the shit

>>73719174
nta but thanks for setting the record straight anon. I'm so tired of all this fucking obvious gaslighting shit trying to go "SO are you all ready to admit she was wrong hurrr" trying to act like they were always right and that everything hinged on just that one MV and nothing else that happened before or after.

they're trying to rewrite history and pin the blame on her for what is unambiguously EN management's own shitty actions, other livers' own shitty actions that we saw live, and had all gone down -after she had fucking left already-. fuck no, don't forget it, nobody forget it, always remind NDF of this. they won't get their gift cards that easy.

>>73719416
well they're gonna have to get used to it soon, because there won't be many of them left at this rate. The NijiEN youtube channels are getting hardfucked. I highly doubt any of them are seeing growth right now.

>>73713441
so that tweet is just management? or rosemi lying and pitybaiting?

>>73714911
"Hey 4channers", remember the root cause of this?

>>73719407
>Dokis going to continue to grow
Her ccv gets lower each day
>Nijisanji will be forced back to Japan or China
2 more weeks, right sister?

>>73718931
An original duet song, once a month, every month, for the rest of the calendar year.
Bold of management to assume that Niji EN is gonna last through the end of the year, or even through the end of the summer. The Q4 report is coming in June, and the annual shareholders meeting (in which Riku gets to personally explain to the stonks bros why the FY2023 revenue numbers missed projections by a massive margin) is in July.

>>73719433
>theyve not had time
They had all the fucking time tho, they just pulled that shit from under the rug to try and pretend they are actually doing stuff for their organs to look better
It's actually fucking retarded

>>73715793
it should be considered an honor to be automatically counted as good-enough to merit being part of a successful corpo. or at least one that's doing better than nijiEN even if it's phase. phase is small but it still has a future, and you honestly cannot say the same for nijiEN.

>>73719504
The studios are booked by their more important talents (ie, the japanese branch) so they quite literally didnt have time and broke glass in case of collapse and they didnt realize the fire extinguisher was filled with oil

>>73719393
I accept your concession.

>>73719431
Wow, really? That's even more evidence that she brought this mess upon herself. Fagoons are delusional.

>>73719174
Mucho texto

Defaming someone means it has to be lies and they said nothing but the truth. She didn't pay artists on time and she did fuck with copyrights multiple times. There is no HR complaint, you're a lying faggot

The only true part is that she wasn't negligible, she was a liability.

>>73719488
>Her ccv gets lower each day
That isn't actually true but go off
>2 more weeks
Try 2 months ago

>>73719504
I will not be surprised if Niji's bureaucracy demands that recording the MOCAP data should be always along with RENDERING itself.

>>73719488
Hey, you see this number?
It's supposed to go up, not down. If it goes up, it means you're reaching more people and gaining a bigger audience.
It's not supposed to go down. Ever.

>>73718651
but you keep replying, so you might as well.

>>73719442
It will never not be funny to me that these retards can’t accept even a modicum of blame being put on the Nijisanji management.

>>73719618
Nijinig btfo

>lost a sub milestone
>got her Tekken and Harada moment stopped dead in its tracks
>basically didn't even perform during the AR live
>the biggest period of her vtubing career was also the worst
And why? What was her sin? Tell me.

>>73719628
Because its 3am and i dont have to wake up for work till like noon

>>73711444
holoEN deflection thread

>>73719618
they're STILL losing subs like 2 months later? holy fuck

>>73719651
it's only up from here for her.

>18 brand new deleted posts
Looks like the kronii attention whore got bonked

>nijisister got IP wiped
loooooooooool

>>73719576
Why would you just lie like that? Do you think you’re going to get even one person to believe you? Do you think you’ve done anything with this post?

>Nijinig banned
KEKAROOOO

>>73716636
>who the hell uses "mental" to refer to mental health

Girls on social media.

>>73719651
not having a spine and pulling the ejection lever in time.

>>73719710
>nijinig get deleted
>must be a [insert Hololive fanbase here ]
rumao faggot

>>73714911
fuck off sister

>>73719651
Being part of Nijisanji.

>>73719651
Wasn't fast enough to get in line for the graduation queue off the sinking yacht

>>73719686
They're down 15k in the last 7 days, 58k in the last 30.

It's slowed down, but it's absolutely still going.

Nijinig could use the break. I was starting to get concerned of his blood levels. Too much going to hands and penis and not to brain.

>>73719576
>Nothing but the truth
Kill yourself faggot
Everybody who ever worked with her came out to defend her credibility and state under no uncertain terms she did everything right
The ONLY "Third Party Copyright" she allegedly broke was her RE4 Perms. Where management forced her to take down her vods and after she asked why they said she didn't have perms for the EN version despite other livers playing the JP version. She asks for perms that never come. And when she tries to ask capcom directly she is banned by MANAGEMENT for daring to ask and work things out and not suck their shit down like a good little slave
The Fall Guys perms wasn't an issue. She didn't have perms from management to include JP livers. She was told she could do domestic tournaments again in future. Nothing was said about game perms
NOTHING in the MV was a problem with third party copyrights. Lilypichu. The owner of the song. Came out and said she got perms for it back in august of fucking 2022
You wanna talk about liabilities?. Tell me why Luca Kaneshiro hasn't been fired yet, For using a hololive MV and monetizing elden ring and leaking unreleased materials to his VR chat mommy who incidentally was ALSO skinwalking him on his minecraft account which required access to his private company email account among many...MANY other things
>There is no HR complaint
Thats what the document was. Are you another one of those shit eating fucktards that claims it was a lawsuit threat?

>this is from the other Nijiseethe bait thread
>deleted at the same time

>>73719776
Bro, he had 4 posts with kroni images begging for attention, im not claiming they were all him though, just was noting that the kronii begger and some other posts were deleted

>>73719651
The nudes. She legally endangers anyone who sees them. That's her sin.

/thread

>>73719722
Huh. Smells less like shit in here now.

>>73719851
>the kronii begger
lol, nigger

>>73719431
>>73719572
If you SERIOUSLY believe that bullshit you are the most braindamaged mongoloids to ever exist

>>73719848
KEK

>>73719848
probably the same schizo that's been shitting up the board for a week now
guess the jannies finally got tired of her

>>73719848
>>>>>>>> 1 minute apart

>>73719848
nice desuyone

>>73719805
That’s impressive. One would think the bleeding would stop with the lack of drama recently. Can’t be understated how much of a bad taste in the mouth Nijisanji’s incompetence and malice has left everyone I guess.

>>73719865
>>73719651
Oh nvm, you were talking about Rosemi, I thought you meant Pomu, wtf.

>>73719468
in what way is it pitybaiting?
she's going on a break and explains why
real life is not a drama

>>73719840
Holy based anon keep destroying these nijiniggers I completely forgot about the fall guys shit jeuss christ niji is garbage

>>73719848
How embarrassing. There is at least one meido (not just janny, as in a mod) who seems to enjoy pulling peoples' pants down in public sometimes, and it's great.

Rosemi wasnt friend with anybody in niji.
Maybe there were one person close to her and its Nina.
With Selen they just chat.
Good colleagues - maybe.
Friends - hell no.
I still remember her displeasure after Selen's birthday and her saying that her new chibi model was a surprise and it was ruined.
Fun moment.
And there are lots of these moments with Rosemi.

>>73719953
"omg my mental is not good,pls notice me everyone,help me and give me that pitypoint(and sc too pls)" just like kotoka and those bitches? you said it that shes fine,no one "fine" tweeting like that,again unless shes lying

>>73720018
The SEA dramaniggers are awake it seems, time to go to bed, i dont have the patients to try and parse ESL posts

>>73720018
>saying that her new chibi model was a surprise and it was ruined.
wut? how was it ruined?

>>73720018
meds

>>73720018
So true! So real!

>>73720060
yes pitybaiting for money includes going on a break so you can't make money
you are retarded, shut the fuck up

>>73719848
>seething off cooldown
holy nijiseethe

>>73712709
If it was threats then she'd say so on Twitter. Nijis love blasting all that shit on there.

>>73720018
>Rosemi wasnt friend with anybody in niji.
wasnt you nijinigger that keep bitching about "niji family,niji friends blablabla" since 2021? now you talk shit about "they are not friends" be consistent faggot

>>73720018
oh no, the sisters are gonna bury rosemi now.... are they sending her death threats as well?

>>73719840
>The ONLY "Third Party Copyright" she allegedly broke was her RE4 Perms
So she broke them
>The Fall Guys perms wasn't an issue. She didn't have perms from management to include JP livers.
Proof?
>NOTHING in the MV was a problem with third party copyrights
Except "works and assets belonging to others affiliated with Anycolor"

Luca accidentally leaving monetization on for a minute in which he immediately turns it off after less than a dollar pops up is not fireable offense. Accidentally using a Holo MV then taking down the vod is not a fireable offense. A menhera commissioner leaking everything Luca was talking about with her isn't a fireable offense. Giving someone your email isn't a fireable offense. Nearly singlehandedly destroying their reputation is. Also it is a lawsuit threat because that's what legal action means. Seethe more, Dokifag

>>73719416
I didnt get it until i watched an asmongold vid today where there were 15 million failing chinese streamers. Which is a rediculous number. Yea yeah watching asmonbald. Go ahead shit all over that. But you see that footage with all the streamers lined up on a bridge and you see that they are all selling products to stupid people.
A streamer in china isnt the samething as a streamer in the freeworld. We watch streamers for the entertainment or cause we are simping. Sisters watch to be told what to buy by hot sales people.
Once you realize that cultural disconnect. Why they care more about the company than the streamer it all makes sense. They dont want to feel stupid for spending thousands on nijimerch. It was never about the sales person it was about the product to them.

>>73711444
>AR
What does AR stand for?

>>73720129
>yes pitybaiting for money includes going on a break so you can't make money
>you are retarded, shut the fuck up
which is what the typical pitybaiting look like sister? stop pretending you care sister just because these pathetic rosebud are too retarded to show their oshi that they will support her outside of niji now she must go for pitybaiting for that brownie point.
you shut the fuck up and go praise that garbage ar life which you cant share on your beloved twitter

>>73720334
idk man i think it's just kpop culture

>>73720425
Absolute Retard

>>73720332
>Nearly singlehandedly destroying their reputation is.
so nijisanji should fire itself?

>>73720332
>Luca accidentally
accidentally what? fuck you in your ass sister? everything already exposed including their talk about JP concert and luca signature,vox even admit that he fucked up but MANAGEMENT FORGIVE HIM,he didnt get FIRED,but selen was FIRED,so what the fuck is with this rules

>>73720553
Was that not what the AR live was?

>>73720425
Augmented Reality, ie: their 3D models on a real-life stage.

>>73720465
Same shit. The point is that what i want from a streamer and why i watch them is different from why they watch.

>>73720332
>So she broke them
Ignores the entire rest of what i said giving the context that she was given the okay and rugpulled
>Proof?
Her statement made after the cancellation?
>"works and assets belonging to others affiliated with Anycolor"
I swear to fucking god if you are one of those "Ex livers own the rights to the IP of their models" Schizos i'm gonna lose it
>Luca accidentally leaving monetization on for a minute in which he immediately turns it off after less than a dollar pops up is not fireable offense.
Ah so we can make downplaying excuses for the Golden Child but assume the absolute worst of selen yeah?
>Accidentally using a Holo MV then taking down the vod is not a fireable offense.
By THIS logic Accidentally playing RE4 then taking down the vod isn't a fireable offense either
>A menhera commissioner leaking everything Luca was talking about with her isn't a fireable offense
She wasn't commissioned to work on luxiem's 3d or their future merch previews or handle aster and scarle's drama anon... Luca literally unofficially hired her as a ghost manager and made her do all the work running his channel... which IS a fireable offense
>Giving someone your email isn't a fireable offense.
It sure as shit fucking is when it's your personal company email with god knows how many corporate secrets and confidential projects under NDA contained inside
>Nearly singlehandedly destroying their reputation is.
In that case why hasn't elira been fired cause that's exactly what she fucking did
>Also it is a lawsuit threat because that's what legal action means.
First of all no that isn't what legal action means. Secondly nobody mentioned legal action at all. And lastly you're a faggot

>>73720459
learn english please

>>73720425
augmented reality. Think Pokemon Go where you see pokemon in the "real world."

>>73720681
you learn english pignoy

>>73720332
>Luca ACCIDENTALLY leaked company ruining private information about 500 times over a fucking year
>nothingburger
>Selen uploads a MV when the only "issues" were IPs that the fucking company holds already
>TERMINATE THAT BITCH

>>73720572
Yes, he fucked up in trusting that his menhera friend he commissioned wouldn't spill everything they talked about because he said he wouldn't fuck her.

Meanwhile Selen purposely broke the rules, ignored her manager, told the public to break the rules, got lawyers on them, accused them of harassment, and wrote up a document threatening to sue the company and it's members. Can you tell me what the difference is?

>>73720827
Luca still violated the terms of the contract, you can't spin that away

>>73720745
The mv was something she wanted and not what the company wanted

>>73720827
>contract says you DON'T LEAK SHIT
>leaks shit
>gets mad that person they leaked to wasn't trustworthy

??????????????????

This comes back to that whole "rules need to have a fucking reason"
the "don't leak shit" rule is SPECIFICALLY TO PREVENT CASES LIKE THIS.

>>73711444
ROSEMI GET OUTTA THERE! THE OTHERS SURVIVED YOU CAN TOO!

>>73720871
Yeah, I'm sure the global audience is something the company didn't want either.
Sasuga riku-sama and mane-chan

>>73718880
You will never be a woman xister

>>73720827
> Selen purposely broke the rules, ignored her manager, told the public to break the rules, got lawyers on them, accused them of harassment, and wrote up a document threatening to sue the company and it's members

kek the most sister schizo rambling i've ever seen, yes selen did all of these things but your company was the only who made it known to everyone and shot themselves in the face KEKW

>>73720827
wtf are you talking about? if luca broke 10,selen broke 1,selen fired,luca is fine and thats your logic? both of them should get fired if its the rules,but its only selen

>>73720863
They all broke the contract when they fucked up perm shit. So why wasn't Selen fired for the RE4 or fall guys retardation? Luca giving her the email address so she could play on his account without asking was a nothing burger. Luca telling her about work drama is a nothing burger. Luca telling her about shit the public already knew about is nothing. Selen actively attempting to fuck with their rep isn't

>>73720889
Sorry anon he's a male in Nijisanji that means his rules are different from the females. He gets 20 strikes instead of 2. Oh and rabid fans that will be sure to always downplay his issues and amplify the girl's.

>>73720889
Actually she was a subcontractor being paid for her work. The only issue is that he didn't legally silence her and just trusted she wouldn't spill everything to the public.

>>73720827
Smells of favoritism to me, you cant spin this. From your statement both broke rules but one got off freely. I guess nijisanji and their fanbase just loves the male livers that much

>>73720889
this, loose lips sink ships. all it takes is one single break in confidentiality to someone who isn't honor-bound to respect it, and normally the reason to respect it is "you get fired if you don't", because people who Anycolor can't do jack shit to like Raziel = literally fucking everyone who works outside Anycolor. the encorcement HAS to centralize on the people who actually keep the knowledge, all blame goes to them if confidential material gets out. which is what has happened blatantly and to a degree I don't even know if we've seen so openly.

who needs to answer to that? luca. or "luca wuca" if it helps the sisters understand who I'm talking about. he literally should be Rushia'd, Mel'ed etc. every day he stands there still isn't a win for him or anycolor, it's a lose, it makes them look more and more like a joke. you can fucking EXPECT more leaks to happen if it's clear some people can get away with them scot free.

>>73721011
I can't even imagine being this retarded.
It's ok for him to leak the personal information in his company e-mail and defraud his fanbase with fake signatures because... you think it's ok for HIS contract breach and not hers, when she was actively trying to promote the company directly instead of selfishly being a lazy asshole?

>>73721011
>Selen actively attempting to fuck with their rep isn't
she isn't even doing SHIT. if anything you and the sisters are fucking ruining Niji's rep by coming out here and on other social media platforms making a fool of yourselves.

>>73718092
nijisisters are complex creatures

>>73721011
LOL smells like a nijisister: everything male livers do are fine HAHAHAHA

> nijisanji thread
> nijisisters coping
> everyone else shitting on them

feels good not to be a niji

>>73720676
>Ignores the entire rest of what i said giving the context that she was given the okay and rugpulled
I don't take delusions seriously
>Her statement made after the cancellation?
The statement which says nothing about getting perms from JP livers? Like I said, I don't take delusions seriously
>I swear to fucking god if you are one of those "Ex livers own the rights to the IP of their models" Schizos i'm gonna lose it
It's cause they do as said by Niji themselves. Seethe more, faggot
>Ah so we can make downplaying excuses for the Golden Child but assume the absolute worst of selen yeah?
I don't see how immediately turning off monetization once he realizes it's on equates to Selen actively doubling down on breaking the rules
>By THIS logic Accidentally playing RE4 then taking down the vod isn't a fireable offense either
You're right, that's why she wasn't canned immediately
>Luca didn't commission her
Except he did. Multiple times. Some credited. Hiring a subcontractor is allowed in the contract clear as day and Niji clearly knew about her because she was a mod in his channel
>It sure as shit fucking is when it's your personal company email
With no password? For the sake of playing Minecraft? Seethe
>Muh Elira
Nah, the cancer was Selen. She caused the rot of their reputation almost by herself through a cycle of breaking rules then crying about management being mean for doing the bare minimum
>First of all no that isn't what legal action means.
It is
>Secondly nobody mentioned legal action at all.
Nijisanji did. Bargain bin recycled garbage arguments

>>73720332
>Nearly singlehandedly destroying their reputation is

Nijisanji did all the damage to themselves with that idiotic termination notice and then the dumbass blackscreen video. Doki barely said anything and what she did say was in response to Nijisanji's statements. If Nijisanji had just kept things terse and professional and let her go quietly, none of this would've happened. Instead they loudly shot themselves in the foot trying to shoot her in the back. TWICE.

>>73720615
>>73720692
Thanks for the info explanation.

I'm not even going to read the thread, but let me guess, it's "Selen's fault," am I right?

>>73711901
It was 2 songs + 2 variety show sections like the Noctyx ones.
She mentioned it in members

>>73721011
>Selen actively attempting to fuck with their rep isn't

And when did she do this prior to being fired?

>>73720827
>Selen purposely broke the rules
Proof?
>Ignored her manager
Her manager ignored her
>Told the public to break the rules
Told the public to take her final gift which had become her suicide note. After which she.. you know... TRIED TO KILL HERSELF
>Got lawyers on them
Schizo Lie. She got ONE lawyer to negotiate her out of her contract so she could fucking leave
>Accused them of harassment
Another Schizo Lie. She alleged workplace harassment and bullying only AFTER they brought it up in the termination letter. They made everything public and considering all the OTHER things they lied about....Also matara kuro and quinn ALSO alleged poor working conditions.. calling it a nightmare.. hellish.. the works
>And wrote up a document threatening to sue the company and it's members
And THERE IT IS.. You really seriously take everything nijisanji and the retard trio said at face value without critical thought. You've outed yourself as an irrational nijinigger. It's their word vs doki's and doki has been consistently more trustworthy throughout the entire affair. SURE you can choose to believe nijisanji.. But that isn't based in facts or reality.. We know doki said she wanted out.. We know she said she wanted to leave on neutral terms.. AND we know she said she just wanted to move on... and that is backed by her actions in that SHE DID JUST FUCKING MOVE ON..
MEANWHILE Nijisanji stabs her. Overlaps her neopets stream. Smears her. Insults her legacy. AND expects all of us to believe their lies when they already tried the same bullshit smear campaign on zaion.. EQUALLY proven to be a bunch of petty lies and hypocrisy as well... jesus fucking christ GIVE UP. NOBODY is buying your delusional headcanons
>Can you tell me what the difference is?
The difference is you're a faggot who eats shit straight from riku tazumi's asshole

>>73711901
Womp womp

> B-BUT SELEN BAD WOMAN
> factual explanation of current nijisanji's situation
> silence


nijisisters our response?

Da wose...

>>73721063
>She was a subcontractor being paid for her work.
Hiring Subcontractors are against the rules and a fireable offense

>>73721422
You need proof she purposely broke the rules when she uploads the video after her manager tells her to confirmation on perms and when the video gets privated, she says "WAAAAH REUPLOAD THE VIDEO CUZ MANAGER MEAN? Are you like some new kind of retard?
>Her manager ignored her
No, she did. Their screenshots prove she didn't say a single thing to her manager while her manager apologized for not seeing it
>The MV was a suicide note
HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA She commissioned ten people and worked on it for months and you're saying it's a suicide note. Good joke
>She didn't accuse anyone of harassment
Yeah, I guess Nijisanji just made it up and it just so happened to be true and Vox was just reading off scribbles on paper
>WAAAAAH DOKI DINDU NUFFIN STOP QUESTIONING HER
Like oshi like cult follower, I guess. Doki only asked to leave when she was about to be fired at the end of January. We know she didn't want to move on because she didn't. Nice fan name and intro, Selen

She deserves her fall. And I'd sue her if I was a Niji member

>>73721063
Which is... against Luca's contract and thus worthy of termination considering she had access to all kinds of nasty shit ranging from future promotional shit to personal chat logs and private information on the other luxiem members.

>>73721466
Why would something allowed in the contract be something that gets you fired?

>>73719651
Have you heard of the concept of collateral damage?

>>73721063
>subcontractor
No she wasn't, she had to be kept hush hush whenever she skin walked him. Also she was a mod at best. And if Selen wasn't allowed to hire assistants, why would Luca? More favoritism?

>>73721749
Because it's explicitly not allowed.
That's the point. Luca never asked permission, and she was not allowed to do any of the shit he made her do. Selen was constantly overworked and ended up missing shit because she had to do the tasks that Luca pawned off on Raz.... which was expressly forbidden for EXACTLY the reason that Raz could leak fucking everything.

>>73715018
Can someone please tell me the source of this? It’s some of the sickest vtuber art in existence and no matter how hard I try I can’t seem to find the source

>>73721832
It's made by a rosebud in /tsunx/

>>73720692
Does anyone actually use the AR? That shit killed my phone so quick.

>>73721738
No it isn't. The contract clearly has a section on subcontractors. Which is what Raziel was. She was hired to help and he told her to say nothing. Which is him enforcing the rules of the contract onto her and she broke the agreement. She was considered his employee and was on his taxes

>>73721356
>I don't take delusions seriously
Oh the irony coming from a nijifaggot like you
>The statement which says nothing about getting perms from JP livers? Like I said, I don't take delusions seriously
quote "I was given the option to keep it within EN. I wanted it internationally. So it fell through"
>It's cause they do as said by Niji themselves. Seethe more, faggot
They NEVER said this you shit eating mongoloid. They wouldn't even let mito have a VIRTUAL god damn playbutton. They won't give their livers their REAL playbuttons. They own literally all the equipment and assets they use under nijisanji. As is stated in the fucking contract. NO WHERE did they EVER say that the ex livers own the fucking IP.. What the management fuck said in the cropped screenshot in the black screen stream said was he needed UPPER MANAGEMENT'S permissions for selen to use the ex livers.. jesus fucking christ
>I don't see how immediately turning off monetization once he realizes it's on equates to Selen actively doubling down on breaking the rules
Proof he turned it off in the first minute and didn't leave it on for the full stream?. Proof selen deliberately broke the rules as a fuck you to management cause she's just THAT much of an unprofessional bitch in your headcanon?. Such an unprofessional bitch that EVERYONE outside if niji is chomping at the bit to work with her instead of niji by the fucking way
>You're right, that's why she wasn't canned immediately
So why even bring up issues with third parties in the termination notice if livers like luca fuck it up too?. or rosemi's 3d.. or the bilibili stream of the AR live?
>Except he did. Multiple times. Some credited. Hiring a subcontractor is allowed in the contract clear as day and Niji clearly knew about her because she was a mod in his channel
Literally provable lies. In luca's dms to raziel and raziel's OWN fucking statements on the matter. Luca said he would get in trouble if they found out about her. And she tried to contact Niji directly to make it official and was fully and completely ignored. It is NOT legal for you to hire a subcontractor to do your entire job under nijisanji for you. In fact it is EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN for you to do so
>With no password? For the sake of playing Minecraft? Seethe
How do YOU know she wasn't given the password to his email?. How do YOU know that password isn't the same AS the email?. It's still breaking NDAs to give her access to fucking ANYTHING like that by the way
>Nah, the cancer was Selen. She caused the rot of their reputation almost by herself through a cycle of breaking rules then crying about management being mean for doing the bare minimum
"Covid huh...".. "Once in a lifetime opportunity"
"Hollywood was horrible" "It's amazing we actually have managers here in vshojo" "It was like waking up from a nightmare".. Single handedly huh... Not even TALKING about yugo or zaion or gundou or nijiKR or nijiID or nijiIN or virtuareal or the 4th krisis member leaks or the copyright striking of khyo and falseeyed or the leaks mocking council... jesus fucking christ you fucktards are so disgusting. Selen was the BIGGEST fucking shill and defender you had. Taking the blame for EVERYTHING even the stuff that wasn't her fucking fault
This whole next section is just the stupidest fucking shit ever
>First of all no that isn't what legal action means.
>It is
It isn;t. it literally fucking isn't. Just because you hire a lawyer that doesn't automatically mean you are threatening to sue somebody you hopeless fucking third world retard
>Nijisanji did. Bargain bin recycled garbage arguments
>PLEASE PLEASE PLLEEEEAAASE BELIEVE MY CORPO AT THEIR WORD. PLEASE UNQUESTIONALLY SWALLOW THEIR BULLSHIT JUST LIKE ME PLEASE PLEASE PLEEAAAASSSEEE
no i don't think i will

>>73721862
Yeah, it's dumb but it can look pretty if done right.
Here's hololive's version to compare. Look at how they actually pull off the lighting properly and they're illuminated the way the stage lights are. Just skip around and you'll see the vast difference between that and the niji garbage
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1du4y1K78f/

>>73715645
You're the woman that would look away when the boss is sexually harassing a coworker because she doesn't want to ruin the "good thing" she's got going.

>>73721718
>Yeah, I guess Nijisanji just made it up and it just so happened to be true and Vox was just reading off scribbles on paper

Well they are the ones who publicized it. Doki didn't say shit in public until they jumped the gun.

I'm always weirded out by these dumbasses who care if their content gets cut. It's as if they've never worked in a media company company before.

>work overtime during H2 designing production set
>first weekly of '24 comes around
>yeah we're not doing that anymore lol
>so anyways I cash in my overtime and start working on some creatives

Like who gives a fuck, the work never ends.

>>73721011
>They all broke the contract when they fucked up perm shit.
So they should ALL be fired then!
>So why wasn't Selen fired for the RE4 or fall guys retardation?
Because nijisanji weren't THAT stupid at the time
>Luca giving her the email address so she could play on his account without asking was a nothing burger.
It's a violation of his NDA and also it is just complete and utter fraud in his content AND his career. Both are very much fireable offenses
>Luca telling her about work drama is a nothing burger
Yes betraying your company and feeding personal and private conversations to an outsider is TOTALLY a nothing burger... Damaging the reputation of the company by sharing it with dramafaggots is absolutely perfectly fine and dandy!!... (this is sarcasm by the way i know you chinks have hard time with that)
>Luca telling her about shit the public already knew about is nothing.
The public didn't fucking know about the leaked luxiem projects and merch and the INTERNAL FUCKING WORKINGS OF THE COMPANY you brainless ape. He leaked some of the most confidential shit one can possibly leak.. jesus fucking christ.
>Selen actively attempting to fuck with their rep isn't
Literally never fucking happened... nijisanji killed their rep their own god damn selves you stupid shit eater

>>73716739
Nothing's stopping Scarle from commissioning an indie model from her mama.

>>73721718
>You need proof she purposely broke the rules when she uploads the video after her manager tells her to confirmation on perms and when the video gets privated, she says "WAAAAH REUPLOAD THE VIDEO CUZ MANAGER MEAN? Are you like some new kind of retard?
What part of she was fucked over for 2 years and finally snapped and stopped thinking rationally do you rejects not understand?
>No, she did. Their screenshots prove she didn't say a single thing to her manager while her manager apologized for not seeing it
The screenshots are heavily cropped so we have nothing to go off of other than it took 37 fucking hours to respond when the deadline for the cover releasing was known about for the entire week leading up to it.. did her manager just... not look at her schedule?. not ask her about this cover in the works for a full fucking YEAR?... over a year actually cause she got perms for it back in august of 2022
>HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA She commissioned ten people and worked on it for months and you're saying it's a suicide note. Good joke
You didn't read the part where i said it BECAME her suicide note after she had fucking snapped and decided on killing herself. Which is why she stopped giving a fuck about perms and shit that they had been rugpulling on her and approving only to deny afterwards for months and months at that point
>Yeah, I guess Nijisanji just made it up and it just so happened to be true and Vox was just reading off scribbles on paper
Unironically yes. Considering they made up so much OTHER bullshit. It's very easy to see them painting doki as threatening to sue and come after them as another way of smearing her character when coupled with everything else they accused her of... especially when doki only ever said she wanted to move on and only ever spoke as a RESPONSE to whatever niji was saying
>Like oshi like cult follower, I guess. Doki only asked to leave when she was about to be fired at the end of January. We know she didn't want to move on because she didn't. Nice fan name and intro, Selen
Holy seetheballs you shit eating fucktard. The animation is public domain. The fanname and oshi mark are public domain. She didn't "leave instead of being fired" SHE HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS ABOUT TO BE FIRED. Stop FUCKING LYING about shit we ALREADY KNOW THE FACTS FOR... JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. In nijisanji's OWN god damn words.. THEY WANTED HER TO STAY... THEY WERE PUSHING FOR HER TO STAY AND "Apologize".. THAT'S what they were fucking asking of her... holy fucking shit,,
>She deserves her fall.
She isn't falling, She is rising higher than she ever could when she was in niji. She raised 250k for charity. She got 95k in superchats in her first 2 months back not even counting her earnings from merch. and streamlabs. And twitch. And memberships etc etc. She made more in the past 2 months than any single organ has made in the past fucking YEAR when you account for her keeping 70% of the youtube cut instead of 35%. AND her taking home all the merch profits instead of... 2%...
>And I'd sue her if I was a Niji member
On what grounds?.. what did she publicly say that did anything to a nijisanji liver?. How is she in any possible way LEGALLY liable for the collapse of the branch or their careers?. How can you prove damages as a result of what she """supposedly"" did???

>>73720332
Luca got someone to fake his signature. Fake merchandise is a scam, it's a very fireable offence

>>73721878
>"I was given the option to keep it within EN. I wanted it internationally. So it fell through"
Yeah she fucked up game perms so JP management didn't want their members to get fucked as collateral so she wasn't allowed to do international tournaments anymore. She never needed perms from JP management.
>"Assets and works BELONGING to others affiliated with Anycolor "
Faggot
>Proof he turned it off in the first minute and didn't leave it on for the full stream?
You can literally see that he never made any dono money on any Elden Ring stream except one. Where he made 70¢.
>Proof selen deliberately broke the rules as a fuck you to management cause she's just THAT much of an unprofessional bitch in your headcanon?
>Manager tells her to wait for perms, immediately uploads the video
>Manager tells her they privated the video and that they would let her unprivate it when they got perms then they tell her to run any statement she would make by them. Selen immediately makes a tweet telling people to reupload the privated video
I wonder
>So why even bring up issues with third parties in the termination notice if livers like luca fuck it up too?
It's almost like jobs don't usually immediately fire you over a single fuck up but multiple
>Luca said he would get in trouble if they found out about her.
Wrong, he said he'd get in trouble for giving her his email address to let her play Minecraft
>And she tried to contact Niji directly to make it official and was fully and completely ignored.
Wrong, she ran to cry to Nijisanji because someone she banned was harassing her and Luca just told her to silently mod next time. They obviously knew about her because she was a mod. A form of subcontractor
>How do YOU know she wasn't given the password to his email?
Because you don't need your email password for a Minecraft account and she never said she had the password for his email address.

>It's still breaking NDA
And Selen fucking up perms for RE4 hard is a contract breach too. And she wasn't fired for it too. FAVOURITISM???
>Selen was the BIGGEST fucking shill and defender you had. Taking the blame for EVERYTHING even the stuff that wasn't her fucking fault
Me when I lie
>Just because you hire a lawyer that doesn't automatically mean you are threatening to sue somebody
Yeah but threatening legal action against multiple individuals is
>PLEASE PLEASE TAKE MY COMPLETELY MADE UP SCHIZOPHRENIC SCENARIOS AS FACT. DON'T QUESTION ME, JUST ASSUME I'M NOT LYING. DON'T DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH PLEASE I'LL CALL YOU A SISTER IF YOU DON'T
No I don't think I will

>>73722251
why are you replying to schzio posting? kek imagine thinking selen is "falling"

KEKW makes it 100x funnier that they don't see what's happening to nijisanji / oshi that they're defending

>>73722255
His signature? LOL, you mean the one assigned to him by management? That's not his signature unless you think the retard signs "Luca" on his tax returns

>>73721960
anon, there won't BE a next time.
There's a very, very, very slim chance NijiEN ever gets another concert.

>>73711901
do you know what Q4 means?

>>73722410
His personal signed merched. It wasn't him or his writing or his message. False advertising because its management approved its ok? Bruh sisters massive L on that day

>>73722327
>And Selen fucking up perms for RE4 hard is a contract breach too. And she wasn't fired for it too. FAVOURITISM???

...What? Do you even know what happened then? Management approved her perms, took them away because THEY fucked up, then punished her for asking about why.

In what world is that a fireable offense?

>>73721832
like >>73721861 said, he dropped it around the time of the black screen stream. there's a whole series if you search around, it's pretty kino

>>73722420
don't worry after all the drama is gone nijisanji EN will be even better than hololive

also that bitch selen will fall to obscurity

>>73721976
>Luca committed fraud
Did you know Luca's name isn't actually Luca? Insane, I know. It's almost like he's playing a Vtuber for a company or something
>feeding personal and private conversations to an outsider
You mean his employee that was hired to help him with Nijisanji stuff? One hell of an insider
>The public didn't fucking know about the leaked luxiem projects and merch
You're right, and we didn't know until it released. She leaked nothing that wasn't already public so it isn't even a leak, you retard

>>73722547
> i must get the last word in

ok cartman XD

>>73722477
>Management approved her perms, took them away because THEY fucked up, then punished her for asking about why.
>In what world is that a fireable offense?
To be fair, I have seen many many people get reprimanded for exposing their superiors as retards.

>>73722327
>Yeah she fucked up game perms so JP management didn't want their members to get fucked as collateral so she wasn't allowed to do international tournaments anymore. She never needed perms from JP management.
Schizo headcanon with no proof AGAIN. She never mentioned fucking up game perms. NOBODY ever mentioned her fucking up game perms. If she fucked up the game perms. WHY WAS SHE STILL ALLOWED TO HOST IT DOMESTICLY?
>You can literally see that he never made any dono money on any Elden Ring stream except one. Where he made 70¢.
70c is still a violation of the terms. Doesn't matter how small the amount is. And we were only ever talking about a single stream anyway
>Manager tells her to wait for perms, immediately uploads the video
>Manager tells her they privated the video and that they would let her unprivate it when they got perms then they tell her to run any statement she would make by them. Selen immediately makes a tweet telling people to reupload the privated video
Because she was sick of the fucking ring around she had been getting for months upon months upon months.. and again.. She instantly tried to KILL HERSELF after telling people to reupload the video.. funny how you keep leaving that part out..
>It's almost like jobs don't usually immediately fire you over a single fuck up but multiple
Considering the MV was the only time she genuinely "fucked up". I'd call bullshit on that part. The RE4 shit was miscommunication where she thought they had perms for all versions. But it was just JP. When asked if she could play JP she was told no. When she tried to ask konami she was punished and banned BY MANAGEMENT from ever playing the series again. Lemme skip ahead to this
>And Selen fucking up perms for RE4 hard is a contract breach too. And she wasn't fired for it too. FAVOURITISM???
It wasn't a hard fuck up. It wasn't a contract breach, Luca and others did WAY worse in that regard over the years. It's clear you just have a hateboner for selen/doki because you cannot rationalize that nijisanji fucked themselves over in the worst possible way. So yoU OBSESSIVELY must pin it all on selen in order to keep surviving mentally
>Wrong, he said he'd get in trouble for giving her his email address to let her play Minecraft
Which he gave her anyway.. and he isn't in trouble... HMMMMMMM
>Wrong, she ran to cry to Nijisanji because someone she banned was harassing her and Luca just told her to silently mod next time. They obviously knew about her because she was a mod. A form of subcontractor
Subcontractors are expressly forbidden. And she was MORE than a subcontractor. She ran his entire account for him. Did his merch for him. Leaked shit he told her which is what rushia and mel were both fired from hololive for doing by the way. All these things and yet he is still in there cause old harry can't bare to let his golden child be punished
>Because you don't need your email password for a Minecraft account and she never said she had the password for his email address.
Again how do YOU know that the passwords weren't one and the same?
>Me when I lie
The only liar here is (You) Pretending selen wasn't the biggest corporate bootlicker throughout 2023. Rationalizing and defending niji when the ARLive was cancelled and all the boys went AWOL and protested publicly on twitter
>Yeah but threatening legal action against multiple individuals is
Me when i lie. No legal action was EVER threatened. Not once. Not ever.. Shut up retard

>>73722546
>obscurity
Yeah, Selen Tatsuki definitely will fall into obscurity.

Dokibird however?
>>73722547
>it's ok if MY guy breaks contract but not yours because

>>73722546
They are losing subs every single day
They can BARELY scrap above 3view outside of big return streams. Outfit reveals. And birthdays
The free portion of their big EN concert was mogged by gura
Selen is dead. But DOKI is thriving. Getting tons of merch deals. Sponsorships. Convention appearances. Brand deals, And a CCV well and truly above ANYTHING nijisanji en has to offer
When the drama dies.. NijiEN will cease to exist

>>73722251
So she broke the rules. I accept your concession
>SCREENSHOT HEAVILY CROPPED DUH
You can clearly see that Selen never responded because the last message is at the top of every screenshot and it's always the last message her manager sent.
>It was in the works for a year
Kek. Mysta didn't even graduate a year ago TODAY. And she was the one who never sent the video to management, how were they supposed to know she was gonna try unityfagging and it wasn't gonna be like any other mv.

>She didn't "leave instead of being fired'
I'm pretty sure she did because usually getting suspended and sending lawyers to your company usually means there's a chance you'll be fired
>She isn't falling
Cope
>Sue her on what grounds?
Falsely accusing me of harassment which led to my harassment online and a drop in revenue. I mean if you're saying Nijisanji is failing, the dropping revenue and people focusing on her suicide attempts would be enough for defamation.

>>73721422
>>73721718
>>73722251
>>73721878
>>73722327
>>73722677
Holy mother of texto, too much!

>>73722733
Vivi...

>>73722477
>Do you even know what happened then? Management approved her perms, took them away because THEY fucked up
Wrong. They gave her RE4 perms and she played the game in Japanese which she wasn't allowed to do. Then she started to whine to the company directly making them look unprofessional. She's like a spoiled child embarrassing her parents

>>73722746
> Falsely accusing me of harassment which led to my harassment online and a drop in revenue.

ok elira, shouldn't you be looking for another job or something instead of being /here/

>>73722457
When did he advertise that it was his handwriting? He has to say he wrote it for to be false advertising

>>73722547
>Did you know Luca's name isn't actually Luca? Insane, I know. It's almost like he's playing a Vtuber for a company or something
This point is so stupid i don't even know how to respond.. Like... when people are buying merch with luca's signature on it.. they are expecting the guy playing luca to be the one to sign it. And even IF you wanna say that no corporate vtuber ever actually signs their own merch. You can't prove that. Meanwhile we HAVE proof of luca selling "his" signature when it was done by raziel instead. Not to mention his minecraft projects too.. also him breaking the minecraft server and ruining YEARS worth of memories and content AND all potential content that could have happened in the future... imagine if a holo girl accidently deleted the hololive minecraft server... That would be a fucking career ruining YAB in and of itself
>You mean his employee that was hired to help him with Nijisanji stuff? One hell of an insider
An employee he wasn't allowed to have under the terms of his contract?. One that NEVER signed an NDA for nijisanji and was fed private information in a manner that lead to yozora mel and uruha rushia's terminations from hololive?. Yeah ok buddy
>You're right, and we didn't know until it released. She leaked nothing that wasn't already public so it isn't even a leak, you retard
We don't know what rushia leaked to the dramafaggots that got her fired. And we don't know what Mel leaked for her to get fired after.. that isn't the point. LEAKING IT AT ALL is still a fucking violation. You retard

>>73722811
>she played the game in Japanese
She played it with EN dub you retarded Nijitroon

>>73722677
>WHY WAS SHE STILL ALLOWED TO HOST IT DOMESTICLY?
Calm down, schizo. I already answered that question
>Luca purposely tried to make money on his Elden Ring stream
>Ok, he didn't and he turned it off after he got 3 quarters. But that doesn't matter
If he fixed his fuck up immediately, yes it does. It shows it was an accident. I accept your concession. Why the fuck would she ask Konami to play RE4, it's a fucking Capcom game retard.
>Selen fucks up perms
>Selen makes the situation even worse by begging in public
And they didn't even suspend her? Favoritism? Luca never doubled down like this
>Which he gave her anyway.. and he isn't in trouble
Yeah, it's almost like nothing happened and all she did was play Minecraft
>Subcontractors are expressly forbidden.
Wrong, it's exactly the opposite. She didn't run his account and she only wrote a single letter for his merch. And scripted a voice pack. I'm not gonna answer your question on how I know his email address wasn't also his password. I'll let you figure out how retarded that is
>No legal action was EVER threatened
Now read the addressing concerns tweet Niji put out

>>73722870
Other way around, oops

>>73722746
>Falsely accusing me of harassment which led to my harassment online and a drop in revenue. I mean if you're saying Nijisanji is failing, the dropping revenue and people focusing on her suicide attempts would be enough for defamation.
>me

>>73723035
nta but do you think all this fucking pedantic hair splitting arguing is going to fix or repair anything? the public is the jury and they already decided nijiEN is guilty. the harder you choke on your own blood trying to blame her the worse you look victim blaming. it only makes people hate the remaining sisters all that much more, it doesn't make you look good but more like some indignant nazi shouting heil hitler as he's being hanged. it's too late for that.

>>73722746
>So she broke the rules. I accept your concession
Nobody is saying she didn't "break the rules" That isn't a fucking concession. Ignoring WHY she broke them and the context and mental state she was in however IS a concession tho which i will gladly accept out of you
>You can clearly see that Selen never responded because the last message is at the top of every screenshot and it's always the last message her manager sent.
Why not show us the entire rest of the conversation leading up to it?, Why not show us the entire process of the MV and explain it in detail instead of this vague shit at the end?
>ek. Mysta didn't even graduate a year ago TODAY. And she was the one who never sent the video to management, how were they supposed to know she was gonna try unityfagging and it wasn't gonna be like any other mv.
The project was started before mysta's graduation. Before NINA's graduation even. It started as early as august of 2022 when she got the fucking perms. we KNOW she got the perms then, That is objective fucking fact, So that point has no relevance. And if you S E R I O U S L Y think selen never showed management her MV before the very last fucking moment. An MV that required storyboards and perms and work to produce over the span of 15 months... I don't know what to tell you you are simply pants on head retarded. The BEST case for you is to say that nijisanji are so inept. So worthless. So utterly dogshit and retarded that they N E V E R O N C E checked up on selen's project and asked her about it and worked with her in over a year.. And THAT requires us to believe selen is such an unprofessional dumbass that she poured 25000 dollars and a full YEAR of time and effort into a project without once running it by management after YEARS of being fucked over by management... are you seriously saying she was that unprofessional and stupid when we have years upon YEARS of evidence of her being diligent and knowing how the process works?.. just look at all the shit she's organized after leaving for fucks sake.. and her chibi concerts and other mvs she had while IN niji
> I'm pretty sure she did because usually getting suspended and sending lawyers to your company usually means there's a chance you'll be fired
She didn't "Send Lawyers" Plural.. She hired ONE singular lawyer to help negotiate her out of her contract. She didn't threaten to sue. She didn't """"""BLACKMAIL""""""" anybody. She wanted out. And was clearly in the process of negotiating when she was abruptly fired for sending that HR complaint in detailing all the abuses she had suffered. Fired her 2 hours after she sent it in fact... An HR document we KNOW she signed to be private.. that THEY signed to be private...
>Cope
No thanks i'm good i don't need any unlike you ;)
>Falsely accusing me of harassment
She didn't accuse any livers of harassment, She alleged internal harassment from within the company which is vague as fuck and has nothing to do with any individual livers
>Which led to my harassment online and a drop in revenue
Sue nijisanji for that cause THEY were the ones who painted the target on the liver's backs with that termination notice making everything public
>I mean if you're saying Nijisanji is failing
Provable fact
>The dropping revenue and people focusing on her suicide attempts would be enough for defamation.
So lemme see if i have this one straight. You are alleging as a nijisanji liver that selen/dokibird stating she was driven to the point of attempting suicide because of workplace harassment is grounds to sue her for defamation?... Not a single fucking court in the united states or Canada would EVER take such a case. You'd be laughed out of court and any lawyer dumb enough to help you file it would be disbarred, You could try a SLAPP suit but good luck getting that past the Canadian government. We have proof doki tried to commit suicide thanks to her hospital records so you can't say that was a lie. We have proof of workplace harassment via the black box stream and the deliberate targeting of doki's neopets stream. We have the Rentry saying doki imagined all her suffering due to her mental illnesses. Doki would have a much better case against suing NIJI for defamation than any of the livers have of suing doki.. but lucly for you she decided to move on with her life while you wallow in shit and continuously timeloop bullshit on this basket weaving forum to express your desperation and seethe as your precious brand fades into nothingness.. sad

>>73722865
Luca never sold his signature and his signature was never advertised to be handwritten by the actor behind the Vtuber. He accidentally killed half the server trying to do a Minecraft mod, who the fuck gets fired over Minecraft?
>An employee he wasn't allowed to have under the terms of his contract
You're one dumb reject. How many times do I have to say read the contract? Also you think Rushia was fired for an NDA breach? LMAO, Mel should have never been fired for retarded "NDA breaches" that haven't even hit the public. We do know that Rushia's "NDA breach" was her asking Korekore for advice on workplace harassment. Not the company you want to be like

>>73723035
Bro, who's your nijien oshi? You're trying really hard to defend this publicly hated company

>>73711901
>>73715098
>>73715186
It makes me wonder that they're actively trying to get rid of their best talents
Maybe to focus more on the males, which wouldnt make sense since the china ship sailed a long time ago

>>73722811
...Holy fuck that's so wrong I don't even know where to start.
She scheduled Resident Evil 4 for four weeks. She played 2 weeks. She played on the english version of the original, which she thought was allowed considering management said it was OK. 2 weeks into her 4 week plan, management privates all her vods and says you can't play it because we only have JP perms. She asks if she can play the JP version then since she knows about other members playing it, and they tell her to fuck off. So she tries to contact capcom directly for the perms, and they get mega butthurt because they're incompetent morons and shut everything down, banning her from resident evil.

I can't understand a world in which you think management were the good guys here. They were the ones who fucked up the perms and gave her the wrong things to put on her schedule, and they were the ones who instead of allowing her to fix it or god help us fix it themselves, instead they went to "punish" her for trying to do THEIR jobs.

>>73722811
>They gave her RE4 perms
And then rugpulled her weeks AFTER she streamed. The vod wasn't taken down right away.. it was only after her SECOND stream that it got privated and she was blacklisted from it.. if there was a problem.. what took them so long?
>Then she started to whine to the company directly making them look unprofessional
Proof she was unprofessional in the way she asked for permissions?. I thought livers were fully responsible for getting perms for the stuff they do.. how was this any different from any of the OTHER projects she's done
>She's like a spoiled child embarrassing her parents
You are a jobless fucktard who doesn't even know what she is trying to say in her arguments other than DOKI BAD DOKI BAD DOKI BAAAAAAAD

>>73711444
She's the only Niji I feel bad for
I hope her streams after graduation are successful

>>73723232
they are the oshi

>>73722811
>She's like a spoiled child embarrassing her parents
If your fucking toddler comes to your job and does better work than you, you clearly fucking suck at your job.

>>73723215
>Why not show us the entire rest of the conversation leading up to it?
There was none because the manager only just saw the video that day? Also all that text to be disproved by this one sentence
>If the storyboards were done a year ago, how is Mysta and Nina portrayed to have graduated?
Maybe Selen should have showed them the video before
>Hr document
Prove it and explain how you can threaten legal action against employees with an HR document
>My rrats are harassment
Please argue to the judge how them streaming and responding to your accusatory legal document is harassment without sounding like a bonafide unapologetic straight faced retard. SLAPP doesn't apply because they're disseminating information regarding why this public figure was fired, it's not personal information, it's information related to work. Can't wait for Dokibird to turn into Jailbird

>>73723221
>Luca never sold his signature
???? It was merch.. it was being sold
>and his signature was never advertised to be handwritten by the actor behind the Vtuber
That is literally what ANY vtuber signature is advertised as... literally every single one
>He accidentally killed half the server trying to do a Minecraft mod, who the fuck gets fired over Minecraft?
He fucked over years worth of content and cost multiple talents a ton of wasted time and effort. People have been fired for way way less.. like selen!
>You're one dumb reject. How many times do I have to say read the contract?
I did. And the arrangement raziel had with luca is not allowed
>Also you think Rushia was fired for an NDA breach? LMAO, Mel should have never been fired for retarded "NDA breaches" that haven't even hit the public. We do know that Rushia's "NDA breach" was her asking Korekore for advice on workplace harassment. Not the company you want to be like
Proof that rushia was fired for "asking for advice regarding workplace harassment"? Also asking Korekore.. aka japanese keemstar of ALL people for said "advice" is funny as fuck. I will say kudos to you for saying neither of them should have been fired. I respect people with consistent takes so atleast you have that going for you.. despite still being wrong

>>73723295
>Proof she was unprofessional in the way she asked for permissions?.
Publicly begging for perms is unprofessional. It's like strong arming them into giving an answer and if they say no, time to get swarmed by retarded fabs. And she wasn't even suspended for it
>You're a jobless fucktard!
T. Burger flipper
Sure

>>73723221
The actor signs the signature what's hard to understand that's how the merch is advertised at bday rates.

>>73723467
>That is literally what ANY vtuber signature is advertised as... literally every single one
No it isn't. He didn't even make up his own signature
>Minecraft nuke warrants termination
LMAO, imagine that. Minecraft getting someone fired because the mod he installed killed half the server and no one bothered to save a back up
> I did read the contract
You didn't. Read the subcontractor section
>Proof that rushia was fired for "asking for advice regarding workplace harassment"?
Korekore

>>73723477
>calling Selen unprofessional when Nijisanji fucked up the perms and then made her take the fall for it AGAIN.

>calling Selen unprofessional when THAT termination notice and THAT stream was released by Nijisanji