/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>73875644
>She goes Indie.
That helps only if the problem is the corpo. She made all the bad choices. Do not do go full GFE and then expects you can do a 180 and have an audience.
I’m surprised no one is helping her but she must have burned those bridges too.

>>73875644
lmao
i don't usually like antis, but it looks like those got spite AND style

God i wish she'd spit in my mouth

>>73875644
>sent her a follow request weeks ago
>still ignored

>>73875644
jesus lmao, talk about being pity

>>73875789
>Do not shit on GFE on your PL, then go full GFE and then expect you can do a 180
ftfy

>>73875644
>a rufiian novelite starting shit
As always, fake happiness is always toxic.

>>73875903
>They have*
>>73876139
>Petty*

>>73876225
the dogs are so deep in the kayfabe I don’t think anyone really gives a fuck about who they really are or how they feel kek

>>73876185
Hse literally shat on GFE then did it anyways then went around for a 180 and expected everything to still be okay

I want to feel bad for her, I really do, but she did this to herself willingly. Its her choice.

>>73875644
>GFEshit
>ends horribly for literally everyone involved
I swear it’s like I’ve seen this story multiple times

>>73875789
She’s still got an audience but they’re mostly tourists and Twitter fags so they’re braindead as you would expect. Her CCV is not great overall but it’s pretty good for idol at least. Her donos are in the can though.

>>73876376
>ends horribly for literally everyone involved after they betray their fans

>>73876185
>Do not shit on GFE
It was her friends she decided to associate that shit on GFE and harassed her fans.

She went full ToT. Never go full ToT.

yuko yurei will never reach this level again, and its all yuyu's fault for blocking and banning majority of her old paying members. best she can do is strike a deal with aviel for a graduation on good terms, but aviel wants yuko to fulfill her donathon rewards first. the boss will be pissed if yuyu turns out to be another pochi and he will have to refund the fans again, it would tarnish the corpo's reputation.

Women would rather work at Starbucks than own up and apologize.

I think the general consensus is that she fucked around and found out. I've seen several people who don't even like GFE saying she deserved this outcome. As another anon here has said, I really, really want to feel bad about her but I just can't. Correct me if I'm wrong on the details, but the removal of past Membership content and the unwillingness to fulfill donothon goals really plummeted her chances of retaining her paypigs. Had she done it more gradually and gracefully, I think she would've been fine.

>>73876889
Are they gonna actually refund her goals though? Or are they just gonna sweep it under the rug and hope that it doesn’t give them bad press? It seems like a bunch of clueless people are running to her defence without even knowing.

>>73875644
Isn't this the girl that did a 180 on her content and told her former fans to fuck off? Not sure what else she expected, she's fucked.

anybody have a clip of yuko crying about having to go back to work at Starbucks? I could use some schadenfreude

>>73877247
They refunded Pochi's donothon goals to anyone who asked for a chargeback so why would they decide that this time they aren't going to do it.

>>73877155
Well she also basically sent a message to her fans by supporting her friends shitting on them. Of course they’re gonna question it especially when one of her friends isnt even a content creator. I find it funny that she followed all these people before other creators and artists which would help her network on her PL

>>73877381
Yuko only removed 3 goals for certain and 2 are still in progress where as Pochi had like 10 in process and wanted out. She at least told her fans to ask for a refund.

Ignoring the fact that donothons are fucking cancer and anyone who gives money to that shit is beyond pathetic, don't they run the goals by management first? Don't they do a reality check on them to make sure they're realistic and they can actually do them?

>>73877627
Honestly I'm starting to think that they don't even do that

Women are really dumb and it's shocking they get employed anywhere. Clown economy.

>>73877563
And all the goals she's missing are the highest ones. If she decides to graduate without delivering them I guarantee you that the corp will let people ask for refunds, there's no point in doing that before it happens anyway.

>>73875644
Momo did the same thing and deleted her members ASMR's too btw. Grifting whores deserve to suffer at a 9-5.

>>73877476
I have not included this in my post because I haven't seen screenhots/evidence of it. Not denying it or anything, I do think it's something she would do. But yeah, she has only made bad decisions after bad decisions over the course of several months. She did this to herself and she has no one else to blame.
>Verification not required

>>73877369
This

>>73875644
did he feel betrayed? this looks like a revenge drawing

>>73877155
>but the removal of past Membership content and the unwillingness to fulfill donothon goals really plummeted her chances of retaining her paypigs.
You know I can understand wanting to change your content, but why the fuck would she delete old members streams? Some of those videos could of been very important to some people, it's just a giant fuck you to all her fans. She really did go about it in the worst way possible, she needed some guidance. Too late now though.

>>73877779
>local trick malds at inability to control his favorite paid whore

>>73876487
>Her CCV is not great overall but it’s pretty good
>which is also not terrible

>>73876889
>this time for sure sisters!

>>73877627
Management came up with most of the goals. They fucked her over.

It's always makes me chuckle when i see GFE anons mald over a honeytrap they willingly fell for.

>>73875644
>Terminally online schizo kirakirasame gets BTFO'd so hard from /jidf/ that he makes yet another seethe thread about Yuko Yurei

>>73878013
This is what the Twitter normalfags (of all people) have been saying as well, at least from what I've seen. I, myself, am not very fond of GFE and I'd actually prefer if she starts leaning into /x/ content because she explains paranormal stuff very well. However, her abrupt removal of paid content, no matter how much she dislikes it, made everyone question her intelligence at best, and her principles at worst.

>>73878483
but sometimes you just wanna remove the past and start a new life, removing her old GFE shit wasn't bad

>>73878465
nta, but calling someone else terminally online while arguing about a third tier corpo’s chuuba on /vt/ at 1pm PST on a weekday is pretty much the definition of the pot calling the kettle black

>>73875789
It's more like, don't go full GFE while shitting on your fans behind their backs. And definitely don't send out the fucking bat signal for all of your whales to look at your PL account where you let your complete and utter distain for them slip. And absolutely don't make it sound like you're going to apologize before cracking a joke, dodging the subject, and blocking a big chunk of your gachikoi that you know talk to all the other gachikoi because they've organized big fan projects.

$2

>>73878868
>1pm PST on a weekda
Nta and I more or less agree with the point you're making but are you not aware of timezones?

>>73878013
>why the fuck would she delete old members streams
There are only ever two possible reasons for doing this. 1. She got a bf and he told her to get rid of it/stop doing it, or 2. She had a realization that she was ashamed of doing it and wants to erase history. Former is much more common than the latter for women

>>73878633
Usually, I would agree. But you're forgetting that she built her brand upon that kind of content and majority of her donators watch her for that content. She should've expected the outcome when she deleted them. We could go on for days discussing the morality of it but objectively speaking, it was terrible decision, especially with the way she went with it if rumors are to be trusted.

>>73878285
rule breakers like pochi and amano serafi deserves to get fired, so does zaion and selen. you want to work in a corpo and earn their benefits, you have to respect the rules and not break it like a retard and get blacklisted by other corpos because your image is tarnished after being terminated.

>>73876487
she was a close second to rin's ccv until things srarted going wrong
that happened before she announced it was over, so there's not a sudden sharp decline
she'd been acting weird for a while
in theory she can still get decent #s, just like lia phase connect has, by going on being a good tuber after committing TOTAL GACHI DEATH
regular dono income is unrecoverable though
everyone who'd pay yuko was a gfe-fag or a normal fan who didn't hate those guys, and what she did to them was too unkind

>>73878633
I am no fan of GFE either but what happened was like removing access to games or media on the digital storefront after you have paid for them already. It's a trust destroying thing no matter what the reason is. I don't think anyone would object if she gave a heads up notice at least but nuking it without warning just like that was unconscionable for her paypigs and indicated a lack of thought and care going through this. It's no wonder they all abandoned her so quickly.

>>73879204
idol is definitely doomed this time for sure!

>>73878868
You failed to make a point

What can you pivot into from GFE without antagonizing unicorns?

>>73879126
I know he could be a skilled ESL or something, just pointing at that it’s not a normal ass time to post for me and I live in one of the most overrepresented English speaking time zones on the internet

>>73879516
right, because the average English speaker is using Internet forums in the middle of the workday. Literally just take PST and add two hours, still a weird time for ESTbros

>>73879579
Literally anything that doesn't involve male collabs so long as you do it slowly and treat your fanbase like people instead of numbers.

>>73875644
kek

>>73879579
>don't delete the old content you made
>don't shit on them on your pl/discord
You will lose money and viewers but you won't burn yourself

>>73879746
It's 9pm in the UK and Ireland.

Imagine going all in on being a vtuber with nothing to fall back on. Even Hololive girls get massive amounts of money but they still go to university.
Poor YuYu will be stuck being a cashier for the rest of her days until she marries a wealthy man with a piss fetish

>>73879746
just stop posting you sound like an NPC stuck in a loop

>>73879916
>UK population
67 million
>USA population
340 million

and that’s without even getting into the fact that his grammar and syntax was burger coded

>>73880016
you’re right, I want to hear more about how yet another GFE chuuba cucked her fans

It's fun to try and imagine what caliber of retard coached her into this monumental mess. Was it her old /k/ gangbang squad? Or maybe it was her (black) bf? Perhaps, just maybe, ot was the yabbit?
Actually, yes it definitely was the yabbit. This whole thing is precisely the type of thing she would unironically advocate.

>>73877369
>>73877823
Lazy so just going to link to the post.
>>73537622

>>73879833
>>73879849
Is it truly such a filter that stopping GFE mogs a vtuber?

>>73879579
Reincarnate if you want to do it fast, if you do it slowly you can replace unicorn paypigs with regular simps. Just avoid males for a year or something.

>>73880136
ESL...

>>73880040
Most of the world learns burger english because of media.

>>73880283
congrats, you’ve sufficiently called into doubt one of the five things that makes him also terminally online

>>73878633
>but sometimes you just wanna remove the past and start a new life
Why? like not showing the evolution of what you were would not be a better gratification instead of pretending that never happen in the fucking internet were everything get archived? This way worked before with IRL things but not in the internet nowday were anything can't be deleted forever.

>>73880523
the stain of being some GFE pandering e-whore doesn’t exactly wash off easily, even irl. not that anyone’s ever beyond redemption, of course

>>73878633
I could understand that if it wasn't paid content

>>73880179
If you're a good gfe streamer (she was quite good with her loli and fetish pandering) you can't comeback from it.

>>73877972
He used to draw yuko? then yes
He don't? then is just a dramafag that can draw

The problem is that yuko didnt do normal GFE, instead the did fetish pandering to a hyperspecialized degen audience.

>>73880580
>doesn’t exactly wash off easily
Particularly not for those whose idea of GFE is pissing into a cup and drinking it on stream.

>>73880790
streams were comedy gfe, often piss-themed
very funny
membershit and social media for gachis was full gfe
they crossed over a little

>>73876225
>rufiian novelite
BAU BAU~

>>73881006
>It's always phasefags

>>73881006
Why is it always phasefags?

>>73881130
>>73881092
no retards, it's just a dramafag, go back to your idol goon server

>>73881006
>falseflagging as a holofan
>it's another Pippa dickrider
Like fucking clockwork

>>73881368
I think if a guy follows every talent that's had drama in the last year and youtube drama channels it's not just "a pippa fan"

>>73881354
if these retards took 5 seconds to look it up they'd know he's talked about being an ex pomudachi and just loves drama

>>73881006
>phasefuck
I'm so glad these fuckers are going to burn down when they lose their golden goose pippa.

>>73881691
fucking kek, nice headcanon retard

>>73881691
I'd be happier if she was gone anyway

-t kanpaikniki

>>73881006
Idgi. Why do they hate holofags so much anyway? If they HAVE to seethe about a corpo, why not Niji which had a liver diss Pippa when she was smaller? Or just pick a fight with someone their own size like Kawaii?

>>73881968
It's the norm to hate ok something popular I guess, they don't need a valid reason, it's not even about their fans, they just hate holos

>>73881092
>>73881130
>>73881368
>>73881691
>>73881968
Why are you claiming it is a phasefag instead of just a dramafag in general?
>>73881354

>>73881968
Niji is dying in a ditch, there's nothing else to be gained from attacking them. Holo on the other hand is seen as the next enemy, couple that with the fact that many phasefags are ex holofans who left for one reason or another and hold a grudge.

>>73881968
>Or just pick a fight with someone their own size like Kawaii?
You know how they're always screeching about taking the #2 spot in the en sphere after niji crumbles? Their fanbase is full of schizos that deluded themselves into thinking their literal whos are relevant when they can't even beat most liggers on a good day

>>73876487
>>73878130
CCV means nothing when you get no memberships or donos lol

>>73881968
>pick a fight with someone their own size
They regularly attack Idol.

>>73881354
3 of those are just incelcore bands though…

>>73881354
Follows Mumei too

>>73877727
what are the dono goals yuko's missing?

>>73882113
>they just hate holos
>>73882440
>They regularly attack Idol.
Yeah and now you should begin to see why a phasefag is larping as a ruffian/novelite to shit on a talent from Idol

>>73882853
You seem to just be accusing him of being a phasefag as a scapegoat.

>>73882235
Phasefags are dramafags

>>73883048
Why is her left sleeve so much shorter than her right?

>>73877824
Eh sorry I dont feel like digging that shit up or giving them more exposure as they’re already nobodies. I was not one of the people that were DMed either. Their accounts are still in her follow list but she privated her pl account and i unfollowed it. Additionally one of them was part of /k/ group whose organizer was pretty much convicted for pedophilia.

>>73884498
>pretty much convicted for pedophilia
>pretty much
What does this mean?

>>73884612
Standard /jidf/ poster

>>73884612
pleas aren't convictions

>>73884841
exactly thanks

>>73877369

>>73878633
Nta but if you want to completely dump your old audience without changing your identity it just always will be weird and off-feeling from then on because the first impression and the original fan base built up always will think they were the proper OG fans. It'd be like if Marine suddenly became extremely prude for real and disavowed all the old horny content. Or if a no-nonsense girl like Fubuki or Suisei suddenly went extremely hard into GFE. It'd just be wrong and manipulative/calculating feeling no matter what the girl's true wants and thought really are.

We don't want or need to see the "real" girl come out dropping truth bombs if she's only bombing her own audience and reputation. That's her choice if she wants to do that but shooting yourself in the foot is rarely ever a good idea.

>>73878633
She went too hard into GFE
And then she pulled out of it just as hard
Playing with extremes, and not bracing for extreme reactions is plainly stupid
Whatever you think about the situation or her actions you cant negate the fact that she's pretty dumb

>>73875644
Thank you to the kind anons who warned me this bitch is evil in her debut thread, I dodged a fucking bullet

>>73888704
Don't forget she was overall super tryhard for attention too with the piss stream and the (alleged) masturbating ASMR. Straight up acted like a desperate camwhore, that is not even GFE. To go from pissing into cups with donors' names on them to becoming mega prude/seiso is like watching some recovering addict become one of those born-again Christians or something. You know they are only doing it for some completely artificial reason.

>>73878633
Yes it isn’t, but you can’t expect an audience built for months on GFE content only to just look at that and stay. It’s like going at a vegan restaurant and all of a sudden they go “we are a BBQ grillhouse now” and ask you to stay and eat.
She could have done that much more gradually and with some proper adjustment, not disappear for months and then come back and pull the rug.
You pulled a Finana. Get Finana numbers.

>>73888895
>(alleged)
She had nipple clamps, deepthroated a dildo, and had a massage gun

>>73881354
Why is this fakecel following 3 incelcore artists and a fucking turbo roastie like VEIBAE at the same time.

>>73881006
these type of crowd is the most disgusting people on the internet

>>73875644
It's funny and she deserves worse

>>73881354
Nice coverup phasecuck

>>73876101
she talked about unlocking once she starts streaming on her alt more, just gotta be patient

Boobros coping with Yuko supposedly getting her "comeuppance" is just sad. She's going to be fine while you will forever remain cucked by an anime girl who doesn't know your name. Sort yourself out.

>>73890301
Yes, she'll be fine. Her career in content creation is over though.

>>73890301
Her career at Starbucks will be a long and successful one, I'm sure. Good for her.

>>73890301
>Sort yourself out
>Posting on /vt/

>>73890301
How can someone be cuckedi if you never had her to begin with?

>>73876889
Damn, dindn't pochi just get a new model too?

>>73890301
If she has no supporters left and has to go back to work at Starbucks, she didn't win jack shit, that is literally the biggest loss possible. She defeated herself however, if she didn't choose to nuke herself things would have gone differently but she fucked around and found out. I dunno what she thought would happen from her actions, who she thought would come save her etc. Maybe she saw how Rin gets by without desperate camwhore behavior and thought she could just jump to that and suddenly have dignity again. You generally can't get that back once you lost it, and it's more like she fucking never had any to begin with.

>>73890301
Anon she made $2 in her last stream

>>73891644
Source

>>73892778
Can that even buy anything at starbucks?

>>73892778
You forgot Streamelements though

>>73894184
shitposters dont care about anything that doesnt fit their narrative.

>>73894184
go on then, post it

>>73894184
streamelements has been very similar in numbers

>>73891644
Full $2 or she need to share that with Idol and youtube?

>>73881653
>ex pomudachi
Hope he stays that way and leaves Mint alone

Her problem is she's retarded. At any point in time she could have recovered from these mistakes, but she's too fucking stupid to realize, and will continue to double down. She has VERY poor impulse control. I don't know if it's because she's young and sheltered, but she really needs an adult in her life to manage her retarded ass, and she isn't getting it. I guess maybe that's Idol's fault, because lord knows their level of support rivals Niji. Yuko, if you're reading this, get some fucking help before you end up on the streets doing tricks.

>>73894184
weak cope, you know damn well she earns 10 bucks from that aswell

>>73875951
God no, there's definitely some std or poop bits in it

>>73895524
>I don't know if it's because she's young and sheltered, but she really needs an adult in her life to manage her retarded ass, and she isn't getting it
This make me wonder how many corpos are suffering from this alone, sometimes this is the kind of risk you have to deal by hiring these impulsive young adults instead of an actual adult, but at the same time an actual adult would probably already have a real job instead of being a vtuber

>>73896075
Phase alone has shown what happens when you don't have some kind of manager able to deal with sad girls. They are all quite open about how bad the first year was. I think this might be a benefit for Hololive tending to skew older: Most of these women have experience and aren't brand new retards.

>>73894483
Fucking retard.

>>73895525
I donated 10 bucks in the lainey Stream for example.

>>73896290
Was it worth it Anon?

>>73898153
Sure

>>73875644
aw

>>73875644
Isn't this anti-semetic all things considered?

>>73875644
It's genuinely impressive, like she took every right corner only to eventually decide to drive directly into the wall on purpose

>>73890285
>>73880360
>>73894654
Guess the termination notice

>>73875644

>>73875644
Oof

>>73876774
And then she decided to side with the people who harassed the fans she cultivated

>>73908968
Tha's probably the worts part

>>73882329
4 whores of apocalypse killed kawaii

>>73891433
In Rin's case she at least made sure that people wouldn't get any wrong impressions about her content. She's an autist that likes playing Nintendo games and collabing with dudes, nothing more or less. Yuko went about everything the wrong way, she could've even made a decent niche for her own if she didn't rely on fetish content/GFE to hard carry her. Makes me feel bad for Fuyo because the two were thick as thieves at one point.

Her comeback will be glorious

>>73875644
Please don't watch Yuko anymore. Don't reward behavior where they go on a random hiatus and then significantly alter their content when they get back.

>>73915061
don't worry, nobody watches her anymore

>>73888895
Considering the 180 happened while she was with her family, I honestly figure she ended up getting shamed/talked out of it in some way by them, since they're aware of her vtuber identity. Because let's be honest, masturbating on stream while talking about lolis and drinking your own piss for money etc. isn't going to go over well with most families. Not that this would excuse anything about how she went about it, or the fact that she reconnected with actual child raping groomers anyway, mind you.

>>73875644
Give me the QRD

>>73915800
>>73252961

>>73916869
Cheers big ears

>>73915800
>vtuber is super mega GFE
>goes on vacation
>directs all her whales to her PL
>lets slip that she's still friends with the people who have been harassing her whales for a year
>goes silent for 2 months
>comes back and announces she's not doing GFE any more
>immediately deletes all her GFE content (which is a lot)
>blocks a bunch of her whales
>income dries up after a week
>now is crying about not wanting to work at starbucks again

>>73882235
Because the connection with phase and dramafags have been made so many times that it's not a coincidence anymore.

>>73882329
Their actual fans are well aware of their position, the people who overestimate them are usually casual /vt/ "experts" who don't actually watch them but vaguely remember their heyday.
Of course schizos will be schizos, kawaii have a lot and many are just straight up antis rather than deluded fans.

>>73882329

>>73875644
Feel bad for her but i guess

>>73879407
Lias recent fuck up was worse in some ways but better in other ways. One it was probably worse in the sense she had recovered was better than ever in terms of any metric you wanted to point to from her first fuck up or yab like she was around the 4th largest in phase and was hitting 1k ccv before phase got a bump as an agency. And the announcement of her collab with ollie and flayon stirred alot of fighting (here) between the phase connect fans and the minor but vocal minority of "hololive fans" that want to change the culture of hololive. This fucked her momentum and made alot of her fans to stop supporting her. but because phase is the stronger of the two companies and phase has a cohesive core and bonds between girls that buffs them it means her numbers are lower but will never hit bellow 300ccv. To me it upsets me cause she had time to avoid.

This yab parallels yukos fuck up in the sense that yuko decided to choose the biggest loser strata of her fans, the ones that were and are a dead end. Just like Lia collabed with two people who's fans offer nothing but negative consequences that everyone knew was going to end badly. Like those fans that hated when fuwa moco ignored the holostars are the most toxic fans and are right there and are simpatico with the nijisanji clique fans. They both chose the audience that made thier ego feel better over the audience who's investment and time was impactful. I don't think either will recover but Lia will be less affected

>>73879983
Well she probably won't end up with a wealthy man considering what was leaked. Her main squeeze is like pippas but retarded

>>73914469
>Makes me feel bad for Fuyo
Is that why Fuyo has been getting closer to Juna in the past months?

>>73919675
That's a lot of words

>>73875644
whore

>>73881006
Wow what a fucking cancer

>>73882235
Because phasefags love that shit and busy licking that dramafag mindset's ass

How hard did she get groomed by that /k/ guy? I can't believe she ever thought becoming a camping/fishing trip vlogger would work out. On top of doing a 180 from how super parasocial she was with her fans. Not to mention she went so far as to DELETE old asmrs and members content outright.

Just baffling. I can only assume her /k/ groomer pedo dude forced her into doing all of this.

what happened to bratcast?

>>73920928
It's dead Dave. Yuko appears to have done her best to burn bridges with Fuyo even if Fuyo is still willing to reach out.

>>73881006
doesn't this just reveal that ruffians are dramafags? but we already knew that from how many of them post in catalog threads to shit on other girls

>>73920588
>camping/fishing trip vlogger
with her bf

>>73923450
Yes of course and one singular deadbeat being a furry also reveals that all deadbeats are furries