/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

The only difference really will be staff being able to assist, whether that be physically or by running the media production aspect of things.

They live in Japan. They barely have room for beds.

>>7432307
I think it's because Live2D 3D is usually hacked together pretty badly meaning they need to fix shit hands-on at times, as well as the space constraints of Japanese homes.
You can't just create a parkour of stuff to interact with at home if you're in a culture whose tabletop gaming mechanics revolve entirely around people running late or not getting to stay long and having to play in a public location.

>>7432307
A studio for 3d costs several tens of thousands of dollars. The body suit alone is like $15,000. You also need a lot of physical room, which is a premium in Japan. It's far more efficient for the company to continue upgrading their main studios for more capacity and variety of content. Then they can also rent it out to other vtubers.

There's also the matter of staff. i've seen a few 3d lives where a tuber rented a studio but were doing everything alone and it can be really unfortunate if they mess up one little thing.

Marine is one of the most successful Holos and she's looking for a new house since her sister decided to live with her. Her current home doesn't have space for another bed.
Personally, I enjoy the fact that it's limited, it makes the 3D streams more special, they're events the Holos get super excited about, and the fans don't want to miss. Something as simple as being able to move around becomes the hypest shit in the world.
Same for stuff like costumes, Rushia recently got a coat, a haircut and a crown. With the amount of money she makes, she could get a lot more and a lot more often, but it's more special this way.

>>7432307
A better question is why do you want 3D streams so badly?

It's pointless to buy your own studio and force staff to travel to several studios for different 3D streams. It's better that there's specific Cover/Anycolor studios for 3Ds because everyone can meet there instead of having to coordinate moving equipment to and from the main studio, Chuuba A's studio, Chuuba B's studio, and so on.

>>7433511

>>7433511
Because it's fun to watch how expressive they can be with the full range of motion a 3D stream provides.

>>7432679
but anoooooon, don't you know that the rrats say that all chuubas are millionaires? clearly they can afford literally everything without issue!

>>7435027
Only Hololive members are millionares. The Nijis are poor as fuck.

>>7432307
i fucking hate anime human ears

>>7432473
Got it in one. Do you know what Japanese apartments are like? They're walk-in closets.

>>7433591
Pantsu are a thing of the past. Every Holo model just has black "spats" except they didn't even bother to model that, it's just colored black there.

>>7433511
Some vtubers, like Aki, Nene and Coco are very expressive and can really showcase how they use their body and movement. And we have really creative ones like Ame who can play around with it. I'm excited to see Kiara and Moona move given that they have idol experience. Assuming they didn't get out of shape anyway.

>>7435589
the Nijis aren't that poor.

>>7438636
I don't know about that. Sounds like they're pretty poor from what I heard.

>>7438516
Kiara can't go back to Japan for work. Probably they will travel to Japan and do a few 3D streams when they get the 3D model, just Mori and IRyS will be able to use it regularly

>>7439154
They use nvidia 30XX cards or higher end 20XX...I wouldn't consider that poor.

>>7435589
Maybe just Coco, Rushia and Pekora are millionaires. YouTube, Cover and the government get most of the money.

>>7439154
Several Nijis have donated 1 million yen or more to charities and Kanae is always buying random expensive shit

>>7435589

>>7440743
Why are Nijis still so poor if they don't even pay rent?

Becaue they're not employed by Cover. They're contracted talent and that seems like a waste of resourses if one of them decides to quit.

>>7435589
mayuyu has donated 10 mil to orphanages bought a billboard for his story too
the big ones earn mad cash from their vp and goods

Too much 3D leads to shit like this. Cover is based and only allows it in controlled environment.

>>7432307
>So, why don't holos own their own home studios
space
they all live in tokyo too

>>7432307
funnily enough, whatever Coco uses is WAY better than their shitty iphones and could probably be adopted by every girl, they just don't

>>7432679
>implying cover actually uses state of the art motion capture sets + suits
Fucking they use vive trackers and sensors any vrchat ERPer would use, they just use more than the standard 2 sensors and 5 trackers that home users use to get it better. The 3d they've showed off does not look anything like motion capture suits.

>>7450185
Cover's iPhone app is really starting to show its age, there are a ton of minor features that other apps used by indie vtubers have, like the ability to actually attach a PNG to their model to move it around. It's pretty embarrassing that they have to put on a static PNG for a hat or glasses that doesn't move when a literally who 10viewer indie can do easily.

>>7450125
no excuse, all you need is two cameras to have basic movement

>>7439462
I thought her visa just expired and no one really tried to renew it?
Couldn't she apply for a new one any time she wanted?
She isn't banned from the Country right?

>>7450547
The average Japanese room, especially in apartments that most of them live in, with furniture in them, barely would give them enough room to stand in a small square for at home 3d with no ability to move a few feet in any direction. Ame's room was kinda small for her VR stream based on her barriers and that would be bigger than most of the JPs holos already.

>>7450655
for all their wealth you'd think they'd move to a nicer apartment instead of a death box.
I guess too much taxes for earning too much might be an issue.

>>7435589
>>7442676
Nijisanji so poor, they BTFO'd to Roponggi of all places

>>7450703
A lot of the girls live in the big city, a ton in Tokyo too. Upgrading to a bigger size would massively increase rent for the gains, even Coco and co in the nice new apartments are still small ass room. Some could possibly go for a house but unironically trying to get a house in Tokyo as a single female with your job as "vtuber" would probably make this not even worth it (I mean coco could barely even get into her new apartments as it was).

>>7450744
no no Im pretty sure a decent apartment that has enough space for 3d doesnt cost that much if I remember how much I've hunted out of curiosity

I've seen people with the same size in the average japanese apartment anyway achieve full 3d motion tracking, unless they're living in internet cafe boxes, they have space anon.

>>7450492
You haven't watched any of their studio 3D since last year, have you?

>>7450533
Attaching stuff is all it's really missing, and it seems like they prefer doing fully rigged accessories. A lot of them have glasses and hats and stuff they can toggle.

>>7450792
Full 3d motion tracking isn't the same as being able to do fancy in-home live3d content, though it would work fine for things like ringfit or simple physical stuff.

>>7450827
I have and I can tell you they are not using motion capture suits what so ever, and if they are is really shit (either the tech or the way they are implementing it on the 3d bodies). As someone with a lot of time with FBT in vrchat the stuff I see from cover is only a bit better than a home 3 sensor 5 tracker setup.

Also since both of those were me, fuly rigged accessories do look a ton better, but it sucks ass that it takes then fucking months to add literally anything to their models and a lot of them do use shitty static PNGs for hats or blankets, etc and it looks terrible.

>>7451157
>though it would work fine for things like ringfit or simple physical stuff.
thats good enough anon.

Coco spoke about this once, she said she wanted to get all the 3d gear at home and asked cover, they seemed ok with it and told her how much it all cost, but it was prohibitively expensive. This was when she was top sc earner too, so I would say the expense is just way too high even if space isn't an issue.

>>7451281
either that, or cover doesnt know of the cheaper alternatives that might not work with their software.

>>7451281
They don't even need full power 3d gear for home, a set of trackers and sensors is like 1.5k usd, and it'd basically be exactly what Ame has. And they can't even use the excuse that they need special gear for their special software because Ame already showed that you can still do it yourself with normal gear and software.

>>7451401
Cover and hololive management are just too restrictive and probably chants the motto "simple is best" while making as many of talent stick to minecraft, forever.

>>7432679
>The body suit alone is like $15,000
Why would you use a body suit in 2021 lol. Consumer VR tech has surpassed it.

>>7451459
You will never play anything except dirt block game.

>>7451281
This specifically is why I don't buy that Cover is still using Vive-based 3D in their studio like >>7451157 says. 2view indies can afford that setup and Coco said she can't?
Obviously Ame has shown that they can roll their own home 3D if they want and Cover won't stop them, but I doubt most of the holos are smart enough to do that on their own and Cover won't help if it's not their normal solution.

>>7432307
Technically they could easily get any generic 3D tracking hardware off the market and hook it in to their software and boom, done.
They won't because "muh high quality assets, don't want no glitches" purity bullshit.
Glitched out models are half the fun of 3D, it going well is just a bonus. Seeing someones ankle spontaneously break is top comedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soCkV6cc_FU