/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>74456705
Did these guys all go to Indonesia or something?

>>74456705
why would a non-indonesian willingly choose to go to indonesia?

tfw you won't get to have a threesome with a petite ID zoomer and her equally sexy mom

nah, ID is just built different not sad unicorn incels like EN fanbase

>>74457042
Probably to have sex with one or more of the ID girls

>>74456705
WDSMBT??

>>74457106
>Built different
Is that the cope you SEA fucks use?

>>74457127
why would you do that when you have a sea of other probably hotter SEA girls that follow you that'd easily give it up and keep it a secret?

>>74457042
I know some northern europeans go there for sex tourism and to get wives. I have no idea why they do it, but they do.

>>74457249
Cause its probably hotter to fuck an "idol" that works at the same company as you knowing thousands of other men get off to her

>>74457266
Cause the other alternatives are places like Thailand, which unless you're into ladybois isin't gonna be appealing

>>74457290
but at a certain point is it really that worth it, when you know there are hotter girls that worship the ground you walk on and would probably let you do whatever you want to them?

>>74457373
Yes. Who cares about a potentially hotter normal chick, when you can have another that's maybe not as attractive but is relatively famous

>>74457106
Even if you aren't an incel, why the fuck would you want to be some third-wheel (or fourth in this case) and watch vtubers hook up and shit? Are you a faggot?

>>74456705
Kobo's streaming setup is in her bedroom, btw.
How the fuck did cover sign off on this or think it was a good idea?

>>74457106
More like there's barely any unicorn friendly vtuber in ID, Kaela just doesn't collab with males, but she's against any gfe.

>>74458812
>ID and homos
Cover doesn't care about containment branches

>>74458819
That's a good thing, Hololive needs to drive the unicorns out of their fanbase. This loud minority of mentally unwell people make up like 99% of the toxicity in the community. They're basically the Vtuber fan equivalent of pronouns-in-bio twitter posters.

>>74459317
As long as they keep their autism contained here, they don't bother me.

god please get the doxxsite back up so all the retarded catalog posting will wane and all the nijisisters can go back to their smelly fujo caves

>>74459317
Male talents literally flying over to the girls house and staying in her bedroom has nothing to do with unicorns, you dysgenic mongoloid fuck.
Who the fuck wants to contribute to vtubers hooking up and taking turns on some SEA slut?
Are you literally a faggot? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>74457042
Cute tan asian girls and great food.
If I wasn’t poor I would visit indonesia at least once.

>>74459447
The only thing that will change is who we're gonna blame the shitposts on.

>>74459491
>tan
That's a kind way of putting it

>>74459447
I don't want to see the males being posted outside of their general, and I'm sure /mans/ doesn't want that either. This shit is ridiculous

>>74457348
There are plenty of actual females in Thailand, Philippines, etc. anon.

>>74459471
Why do you care if someone who will never know of your existence hooks up with ANYONE? Listen to yourself. This is literally psychopath mentality. Unicorns are a cancer fr fr

would kobo really risk it all for a latino?

>>74459999
Yes, for me!

>>74459632
BECAUSE THIS IS FUCKING HOLOLIVE AND THAT OFF-PAKO SHIT FROM YOUR SUBHUMAN WHORES DOESN'T BELONG IN THIS HOBBY. GO RUIN SOME OTHER COMPANY, YOU SHIT-EATING, PIG-FUCKING MELANIN-ENRICHED CUNT.

>>74460081
Least mentally deranged unicuck

>>74460081
this is the point where you start to look like a sister LARPing as a unicorn

>>74460081
Point and laugh, everyone.

>>74458766
Do you porn addict gooners parse everything through the lens of sex? No one was hooking up. Legitimately delusional.

>>74456989
No they didn't, doxsisters are tweaking

>>74456705
flipcore

>>74460081
>[Deleted]
looks like you lose unikek

>>74457373
You're acting like people can only fuck one person in their lifetime lmao

>>74459317
pronouns-in-bio twitter posters are already involved in vtuber fanbases and are basically the staunchest enemies of unicorns though

>>74460917
You should

>>74460981
not him, but both are insufferable imo

>>74460507
>no one was hooking up
That's exactly what you subhuman nijisisters said about your whores and lo and behold, it turned out a bunch of them were literally dating and hooking up with the nijimales. Under the guise of off-collabs, no less.
Kill yourself and the drain on society that is your entire worthless family, you dysgenic dog-faced cum dump bitch.

>>74459632
Caring about a woman having a BF isn't a idol thing or a unicorn thing, its a human male thing.

>>74459317
Unicorns starting drama is completely overblown and rarely leaves /here/ outside of a few retards who sent bait supas to Ame or Kronii at the height of the homo pushing.
Sisters and homobeggars shitting on FWMC or IRyS however very recently spilled into leddit, the official holo channel and their vod comments, to say nothing about the days of bait threads over them doing some JP streams for golden week.

Sisters are and always will be the most obnoxious shitstirring portion of the fanbase. They were cancer when they were watching luxiem and they are cancer now they have hopped over to hololive/stars.

>>74461414
>Implying any of the girls in hololive are as morally bankrupt and manipulative as nijiwhores

>>74461736
*looks at OP*

>>74456705
>Femnicorns getting cucked by a literal hag
Oh nyo.

>>74462030
Sorry, no matter how much you salivate at the prospect to slander whichever girls you can, these actions on their own don’t even make them come close to being as morally reprehensible as the nijisluts are

>>74462901
>two guys literally streaming from her bedroom

>>74457127
Reine my love, I will find you, I will make it past your bodyguards, I will sneak past your hidden ninjas, I will outsmart your sniper overwatch and I will disguise myself as Kiara and we will mep mep together.

>>74463823
And?

>>74456705
>OMG HOMOS HAVING AN OFF COLLAB WITH ONE OF THE GIRLS AND HER MOM!!!!
>its HoloID

>>74464093
And so she's a gross whore that doesn't belong in hololive and hopefully these two sex pests offend the local tribe somehow and are castrated.

>>74463823
That is now her studio. As Kobo mentioned before, she has been sleeping in her parents bedroom since the renovation happened.
But yeah, Kobo is a stupid slut who enables homoleech grifting the only holo they can grift.

cover should get it over with and merge holostar and ID into holoNijisanji

>>74464816
>>74465117
Kobo new song reached 5M views today. Cover is never letting her go. At this point ID just serve as a platform to her.

>>74464093
Sister got cucked by Kobos mom so she is very very emotional rn, please anderstando.

>>74464639
The mere act of a couple of guys streaming in her bedroom without her is not inherently sexual on its own, anon.

>>74456705
Isn't he literally a homo?

>>74466117
Shinri is spiritsexual, only fucks ghosts

You people really have no concept nor experience in interacting with other human beings outside this godforsaken site do you? Do you just hate everything?

>>74459317
>needs to drive the unicorns out
>loud minority
Vtubing (and anime industry post-Evangelion in general) has ALWAYS been primarily unicorn/incel/herbivore/socially awkward nerd-oriented.
The anime waifus replace the spot of actual gf/wife figures in their lives, and they spend their disposable incone in a way they otherwise would've to their gf/wives.
It's a loneliness business.
"Well-adjusted casuals" mostly don't matter because they don't pay up, let alone watch streams for more than 30 minutes.

>>74467396
The sad thing is that, as much as I find unicorns absolutely fucking pathetic, this is true. As in most things, the 80/20 (80% of revenue coming from 20% of customers) rule still applies, and probably even more skewed for vtubers. The fattest supas, the most merch bought, the most music streams and concert tickets probably come from these mentally ill people who spend all the money they'd usually spend with a real girl on vtubers that serve as substitute for the affection, obsession and desire a real girl would bring.

>>74467626
>liking someone is being mentally ill
Are you castrated or something? I guess that would explain the cucks.

>>74467783
Liking someone to the point of being possessive and jealous of the prospect of her talking to other men, as if she was your actual girlfriend, when she's a person who will NEVER EVER interact with you besides maybe reading a comment or supa is being mentally ill, yes.

>>74467894
>liking someone to the point of being jealous is le bad
Are you.......human?

Can't wait for Altare and Axel to go Calli's house and meet Mama Mori. That would be so unhinged XD. Like if you agree.

>>74468013
I am, I don't get romantically jealous for people I won't ever have even a 0.000000001% chance of meaningfully interacting with, meeting, or being romantically involved with. I also don't get romantically jealous for anime girls. People who do are mentally ill. Stop trying to make it seem like it's normal, it isn't. It's deviant behaviour and if you are affected by it, you should seek professional help.

>>74467396
>>74467626
I think you’re overestimating the percentage of “unicorns” that are loud schizophrenic shitbirds who scream about dumb bullshit
A lot of them are more reasonable than you’d expect

>>74467626
Hahahahaha come on anon, this site is full of 3rd world people larping as a unicorn, most of them are clip watcher

>>74466198
Keep him away from my wife, then.

>>74468233
I'm not the one being deranged and seething about this issue, you are. Maybe you should take your own advice. I simply unsub if they do something I don't like. I know you're trying desperately to justify your cuck thinking but please stop projecting that instability and anguish on others.

>>74468472
lmao you are no different from those chinks sending trucks to buildings and reviewbombing games because the gacha they play had a collab with another game that has males and they felt "cucked" by that, or that the story developed such that one of the female characters has interactions with a male and that made them feel so cucked they felt the need to pay for a godforsaken ad truck. Seek help, you need physical contact with other humans, at least the jealousy is more justifiable.

>>74468686
all these words just to deny being a turbocuck

>>74468686
>still projecting

>>74468472
>I simply unsub if they do something I don't lik
So why is talking to or interacting with or collabing with male something you "don't like"?

>>74456705
What's wrong with cooking food for your guests? Stop projecting your cuck fetishes on people it's not cool bro

So people are worried about the old gay one and the Mehican that loves DBZ and would be wanting to breed a catholic girl with a giant ass going for the LBFM?

>>74469200
chill, you idiot
people who just unsub and bail without causing a fuss aren’t a problem
let em go where they want to go

>>74464639
You watch too much porn you pathetic loser...
Do yourself a favor and end it.

>>74469200
If I wanted Holo to be like the other places where that's the standard, I wouldn't be watching it. Are you going to seethe at people who watch CGDCT anime now or something? I'm not there for that vibe, it introduces the possibility of competitiveness, like if you introduced a girl to a guy's game night and vice versa.

>>74469444
why are they unsubbing and baling in the first place? why? what happened to make them lose interest? what was it that they did to displease them? what event transpired?

>>74459471
People from his country seem to be obsessed with sex because they post the "gigachad" face as their facebook profile image when they are actually a fat short weirdo. Desperate people with no standards who will do anything to feel "cool" even if it means standing in the corner while another dude fucks a girl they were interested in to say they were there/had sex by proxy.

>>74469787
>Why are you upset that this burger joint has become a chicken sandwich establishment? It's not like you dislike chicken!

>>74469679
>Are you going to seethe at people who watch CGDCT anime now or something?
If they're going to be painfully annoying, up in my face about it, and don't shut the fuck up about non-canonical or canonical Yuri ships and bringing them up unprompted then yes.. those are my conditions.

>>74468233
>>74469200
>>74469787
Forget logic, forget the chances of it ever amounting to anything. We are talking about a mans heart here.
Migo gets it. Why don't the sisters?

>>74469787
does any of that really matter?
if some guy stops eating meat because he thinks it’ll make his dick fall off, who gives a fuck
the only time it becomes a problem is if the guy then goes around screaming to people that eating meat will make their dick fall off
if they don’t do that then fuckin whatever, man, who cares

>>74469993
Because I don't give up and turn my hopes to some anime girl who barely knows I exist out of the thousands and thousands of viewers like me when I can just go out there and actually talk to people.

>>74459526
They don't *all* look like Melanesians, anon. Because if they did, they'd have better skin and be like three or four inches taller on average.

>>74457042
Well purple dude is from Latin America, so it probably felt like home for him anyway

>>74469993
>We are talking about a mans heart here
Yeah tell that to the 10,000 who also fight for migo's love

>>74469679
>it introduces the possibility of competitiveness
what competition? who are you competing with? how can you compete with people who don't even acknowledge your existence, or even divide the same digital space?
well, it is for the best, at least you are not stalking someone IRL, or so I hope

>>74470341
>didn't even read the rest of the sentence

>>74456705
>Has their own unicorn friendly women to love and care about them
>Still seethe and whine about homocollabers
And these are the same "people" who claim they don't care and don't break containment

>>74470586
The difference of introducing a girl to a guy's game night is that the girl and the guys exist in the same physical space and something has the possibility of happening. Are you really that incapable of distinguishing between reality and fantasy?

>>74459526
It is tan though. SEAsians can be as yellow as East Asians if not exposed to sun much. It's just that the economy in the region is relatively poorer so people have to work outside instead of posh office works.
Take a look at the average Japanese before the war, they were kinda brown.
Get out of your house and book a plane to Indonesia to see for yourself.

>>74470070
Personally, I just can't get attached to real people. Talking to people in-person does absolutely nothing for me.

>>74470070
>>74470341
>turn my hopes to some anime girl who barely knows I exist
>who are you competing with? how can you compete with people who don't even acknowledge your existence, or even divide the same digital space?
Trying to rationalize it again, there is no point. There is nothing rational about the "relationship" between viewer and his oshi in the first place so trying to tell the people that get attached that they simply shouldn't have done that because it was never to be is a fools errand. They will feel all the emotions associated with getting attached irl, like jealousy, like the need to compete.
If you are normie enough to >>74470070
>just go and talk to people
>just b urself
Then you are always going to be a minority here.

>>74459491
>cute

>>74470913
I think you're just lost at this point and I don't really care to explain it to you. All I'm gonna say is that you should fuck off if you don't like it and stop projecting your deranged attitude on others.

>>74471121
>>74470983
yeah, I believe there's nothing rational, tldr don't ever try any sort of contact with unicorns, they are not rational

>>74471323
my guy I get what you’re thinking and what you’re hoping for but your methods are horrible if you want to actually change anything
escalating and meeting people who are trying to escalate the conversation on their level just shuts everything down
change your approach, dude

>>74470983
>You will always be a minority.
Yikes maybe you deserve to get milked for all your money...

>>74471121
>stop projecting your deranged attitude on others.
Maybe you should also stop projecting your NTR fetishes with other people yes? Not a lot of us think about fucking people you goddamn idiot.

>>74456705
Who won more with Indo women?
Shinri? Hakka? Kuro?

>>74471323
>>74471481
And continue wondering why nobody accepts the homos in this hobby yes. "unicorn" buzzword aside you are completely outnumbered by people who feel the same way. The proof is in the pudding, they haven't been able to make the homos work for years at this point. Nobody in the hololive audience is interested in the coed stuff. Maybe you will take the hint eventually.

>>74471963
They actually are interested in coed. They're just not as annoying as you idiots make them out to be.

>>74471587
seethe cuck

>>74472582
Only cucks project NTR situations. Try harder.

>>74472336
still not gonna reach anyone with this approach, man
if you ever want to try and make things better, then you have to change your methods for how you discuss this shit

>>74469384
>What's wrong with cooking food for your guests?
It's a foreign concept apparently.

>>74472732
Ok well you're gonna have to tell me at what point you consider it NTR, because people have vastly different opinions on where that is. Some people consider it kissing, some consider it sexing, some consider it flirting, some consider it staring. Not that it matters when males aren't in the picture.

>>74467009
You have to understand, unicorns and nijisisters are the kind of subhuman filth that nobody will willingly associate with in real life. Normal human interactions are beyond them.

>>74456705
I don't watch ID or homos but the only people who would possibly care about this are the homo yumes who aren't exposed to Kobo antics.Sorry for your loss sisters, it must suck for those who want girl free content.

>>74473850
/mans/ got angrier at the nijiEN collab than this kek

>>74464093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM

>>74474016
The ones who say it openly that is. Meanwhile /cbdct/ praises Avallum for no female collabs since debut and their numbers rival homostars just for sticking to all male.

>>74471963
>No one in the hololive audience is interested in the coed stuff.

Not who you're talking to but dang, I didn't know my opinion and money means less than someone else's. I like the girls, I like the guys. If they collab, I want everyone involved to have fun, maybe make new connections, or even make new friends. Simple as that. Do I wish my HoloEN and StarsEN oshi's would do a collab stream? Yeah I do, I think it'd be funny. Am I running around screaming about it or begging for it like I get accused of? Fuck no, that's fucking cringe ass shit. By that metric, screeching at someone else that they shouldn't do this or should get out of a hobby because [insert whatever metric you want here] is just as disingenuous. What you personally want shouldn't dictate what they, as an entertainer and, more importantly, a human fucking being, wants. Not a fucking hard concept to grasp.

>>74474646
back to twitter homosister, not fooling anyone

>>74456705
Damn, this is some peak NTR experience.

Thanks!

>>74469993
>Forget logic
But we have to accept your cope about you and tens of thousands of viewers are a single entity in Miko's eyes
If you think about it, you and the other viewers have to fight for her attention

>>74474646
>Am I running around screaming about it or begging for it like I get accused of?
Sure you are, there 100 of screencaps and comments deranged like your everytime a holo mention star or doesn't. Homobeggar is like a cult. Even this kobo and homo clip can't stop mentioning unicorn like the girls can't make their own choice and have a gun point at them.

>>74474646
Commendable if you are not a beggar, and likewise I don't spend my time anti'ing Mori or Bae for acknowledging the homos like I am accused of. As far as I am concerned, my perspective is borne out by the fact that if the demand for mixing the branches really existed, the appeal of the hololive bubble wouldn't be a thing and we would be in a nijiEN situation by now. It wasn't for a lack of trying after all. The fanbase rejected it, and not just people here either, if we were the only people who cared it wouldn't have made a difference. People want what hololive offers and males are not a part of that for the vast majority.
>>74475630
Still missing the point, every viewer is on equal footing, i.e no chance at all. The male vtuber in her discord call is not. Viewers don't provoke a competitive environment unless you are watching a 2view who enables groomers. You call it cope, but maybe people just want to watch a cute girl without worrying about any of that? That's what hololive offers, If I wanted to look in on a normal coed circle of friends and ship them together I could watch twitch indies, nijiEN, vshojo or fleshchuubas like OTV for that matter, there are a multitude of options for the viewer that simply sees them as an entertainer and nothing more, i'm not sure why people are so insistent on turning the japanese idol corpo into the same shit they can get anywhere else.

>>74459317
>make up like 99% of the toxicity in the community.
>when sister/homobeggars/yumejos/fujos exist
I'd give ~40% but if you believe is that percentage the mentally unwell is (you)

>>74469387
You've got it twisted. The old one is afraid of women for real and the Mexican is gay.

>>74477582
I don't mind Hololive being Hololive, I just thought of the variety as different cuisines
The issue is some of the niggers can't move on quietly and have to throw a tantrum
You called that a man? That's a big baby
Not to mention, some of you are trying to normalise this mental illness
>Equal footing
Anonchama, you are on the losing side from the start
Some viewers who are also creators get more benefits compared to the normal viewers
Equal footing is an illusion you choose to believe in to make yourself feel better

How will Cover completely dominate the vtuber market? Are unicorns holding them back in some regards? It doesn't seem to matter how good Holostars is as long as unicorns hate them. Even if Nijisanji complete fails, they'll just take the female audience back again just because Cover is doomed to not being able to capture that market.

>>74461414
Get a load of this emotionally devastated cuck drenched deep in projection
If I saw you on the streets, I would publicly humiliate you in front of everyone for how pathetic you are. Genuinely kill yourself you waste of skin.

We all know the invisible gun is real. It's only a matter of time until it's revealed. Death to all unicucks.

>>74474587
Anon, /cbdct/ is a thread specifically for female unicorns, of course they feel that way

>>74477582
>i’m not sure why people are so insistent on turning the japanese idol corpo into the same shit they can get anywhere else.
there are some people trying to do that, yeah, but you might find that there’s a large number that are simply tired of seeing sparks fly around moments like this even when a lot of them are pretty trivial
problems arise when things escalate when they really don’t need to
people take statements like “I think it’d be neat if x and y collaborated some day”(usually posted in a place where x and y will never see it) and interpret them as “x and y should be forced to collaborate even if they don’t want to”
people take statements like “I’m not really interested in male vtubers” as “male vtubers are fundamentally evil and anyone who even acknowledges them should be terminated”(yeah, yeah, I know what you want to say, nobody cares)
and this happens because, well, these are things some people have said before
so frequently, somebody jumps in and starts ranting about their worst-faith interpretation of the statement and how the other person is horrible scum for saying it
this ends up just annoying the shit out of the person who made the statement in the first place and makes them likely to be more hostile about the subject in the future
and then that hostility causes that person to interpret someone else’s mundane statement in the worst possible way, and the cycle continues
the only way for things to move in a more civil direction is if there is a concentrated effort to de-escalate arguments and to not assume the worst, even when it seems like the other party is attempting to escalate it in the first place
because often, the one who looks like an aggressor is just sick of having encountered so many aggressors in the past

>>74456705
It isn't Kaela, I don't care

>>74474853
>>74475281
>>74477030
I like how >>74472907 says this, but when someone actually tries to just say "well here's the perspective I have on it", 3 outta 4 (You)'s I got is just the same time loop and insults I've heard 100s of times before.

>>74477582
I know this is the internet and you can't trust anyone as far as you can throw them, but sincerity mode here, I've never collab begged. I'll also take your word for your side as well.

I don't think there is, or was, a demand in mixing branches. That's a fools errand and any level headed talent/fan would be opposed to it. Personal opinion and all that shit, but I'd rather it be taken from the thought process of "here's the girls branch, here's the guys branch, they will always majority-wise do their own things; if talents want to, they'll collab, but otherwise they largely hang out within their own branch". Genuinely not sure if I'm explaining myself well here, but having the option for two different types of content isn't going to hurt. If you get extra out of it, fuck yeah, good for you. You only like one? Cool man, that lane isn't affected. And I mean, from what I've heard from friends, casual fans of the guys do still exist outside their own bubble. I think in essence we're in agreement of 'no, they shouldn't be NijiEN, God no', but not in the execution.

>>74482608
You worded this thought process far better than I did, so thanks man.

>>74483963
>when someone actually tries to just say "well here's the perspective I have on it", 3 outta 4 (You)'s I got is just the same time loop and insults I've heard 100s of times before
And one of them wasn’t a time loop/insult
Which is better than what the other method got
So was I wrong?

>>74481803
death to yadda yadday and so forth and so on
cover is pandering pander to both, the unicorn friendly chubas are not going anywhere. everyone will collab with dudes! you wish beggar.

i will remove the lesbian out of reine

>>74483963
>here's the girls branch, here's the guys branch, they will always majority-wise do their own things; if talents want to, they'll collab, but otherwise they largely hang out within their own branch
That's pretty much where we have arrived at by this point at least for EN, talents like Mori are still doing mixed gender content every so often, Bae does the odd collab and included the males in her live.
>I think in essence we're in agreement of 'no, they shouldn't be NijiEN, God no', but not in the execution.
Honestly if the tempo of cross branch collabs was WAY slower out of the gate I think a lot of the inital backlash could have been avoided. For a time people really did think nijiEN level integration was the goal and it made peoples positions calcify and led us to the point >>74482608 outlines with how opposing sides of this interact with each other, especially here.
Boomer vs zoomer was entertaining and a novel idea for a stream, I didn't freak out over Ame hanging out in Astels karaokes early on. There was actually some goodwill before the omega retardation
>holostars and hololive are holopro look at my lame fucking manga
>solo debut IRyS? she must wait out her collab ban
>males have arrived? by popular demand we have waived the collab ban go forth and mingle
If we are talking about execution they couldn't have gone about it in a worse way imo.

Too tired to keep replying itt, I doubt the situation in the community is going to change at this point, far fewer normies still give a fuck about chuubas and even the "wholesome" face of the community on the official leddit is pretty hostile to anything stars related nowadays. The people still watching like what they like and I think it's a lesson that has been learned by both the staff and the talents which is why we don't see anybody rocking the boat.

The Culture War and its consequences have been a disaster for the vtubing race.

So, what exactly happened during the collab to justify all this seething ITT?

>>74488250
Not actually a collab. Homos were borrowing her studio since they couldn't bring their streaming equipment to Indonesia because of ID customs regulations, Kobo's mom dropped by during their stream with food, she came in to fetch her mom away

>>74456705
imagine being a unicorn. oh wait, that's what OP is doing because not even OP is a unicorn.

>>74456705
Oyakodon ntr is peak culture

>>74456705
Does she have a sister?

>>74494253
No, but she has an autistic (low-functioning) brother.

>>74457042
SINRI is an intellectual, a former lawyer. He also likes to visit old towns and buildings when he goes to Japan. HAKKA is also intellectually curious and often streaming reviews.

>>74469993
>miko
whore