/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>trackholo.live

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Any of you fine folks working on a VNuma replacement yet?

>>7580532
if someone was useful enough for that they wouldn't be on this board

>>7580560
if there's an API to reference, we could at least get a command line python script running...
What API did the VNuma guy use to get his data?

>>7580402
>>7580479
If you want a celeb that's on par with Ryosuke Yamada that holos can collab with... maybe Twice or Blackpink? Or some singer like Yoasobi or Aimer?

Won't happen tho, because Holos are too self-enclosed to reach those people. And I mean, if a Marine 3D live can get similar numbers, do they really need to?

Just clip ikioi every 5 seconds

sakusan also participated in todays super hyped custom and only got 2-3k viewers... probably going to recline to sub 1k in month or two

>>7580615
I'm working on that, basing on the Youtube v3 API.

I'm an eastern european alcoholic tho, so the pace is pretty much conditioned by how heavy I'm drinking in that period and how often Haachama is streaming: the more she's streaming the more motivated I am to complete the work.

>>7580616
Kpop stans absolutely HATE any semblance of weeb or otaku culture btw, it's quite literally a part of their identity that they differentiate.
100k dislikes would be an understatement

>>7580616
>Holos are too self-enclosed to reach those people
That's a meme. it is not that they are "self-enclosed", it is that whatever they are doing is clearly working (financially) and branching off out of it would be a silly move.

>>7580616
from what you name i can only see twice J-line collabing with like...pekora or something.
but then again i never expected to see a johnny's idol on kuzuha channel's stream so anything can happen at this point.

>>7580616
Nogizaka46 most famous female idol group in Japan.

>>7580669
Good luck anon!
I'm getting my feet wet with coding so this is a pretty interesting idea for a small mini-project.

>>7580744
Aren't Nogizaka Sony Music property?

>>7580501
>not even baseball week yet
bad time for the "nijisanji is dead" crowd.

>Constantly makes /vt/ seethe
>#4 fastest growing holo last month
Kureiji Ollie the Pride of Indonesia

>>7580793
Anon, stop listening to the mean voices in your head. Other than shitposters there is not even single credible post saying that.

Now stand still so you can get your meds. It will only sting a little

8k peak for rion 3d live
so much for the hype god maimoto

>>7580819
Rushia makes more in a day than Ollie will make in her entire life.

>>7580793
this is a win for KUZUHA and only KUZUHA.
When Gawr Gura reached 3 million subs did people say "congratulations Hololive"? NO. the one winning is KUZUHA

>>7580701
Could be, but apart from a handful like Suisei and Fubuki, most holos don't branch outside of the holo circle. They don't really need to either, like you said.

>>7580689
I just picked 2 kpop girl groups with big JP fanbases.

>>7580744
Not sure how popular individual members of Nogizaka46 are, but their livestream numbers pale compared to Hey Say JUMP so idk if its in the same league.

>>7580819
Excluding the "millionaires" IRyS has the largest growth in subs the last 30 days and Ollie and Moona right after her.

The one that impresses me the most tho is Towa. What the fuck happened? I didn't catch any hype around her, why is she so high?

>>7580820
you have amnesia if you haven't seen the board regularly. Now that Nijisanji is mogging Hololive, people suddenly dislike number posting.

>>7580917
Nah it’s a win for nijisanji as those new people who sub will defiantly check out koushien.

You need to detox that copium inside you

>>7580819
She and moona are really the stars of id. Moona has been getting quite a bit of members with her unarchived karaoke. If she is smarter, she open a free chat channel and let people donate just like coco.

>>7580228
130k+ for Marine

>>7580944
>irys shit as many subs as aki
actually disgusting

>>7580946
they might if kuzuha next stream is baseball
we will see how numbers compare with his latest one

>>7580932
>most holos don't branch outside of the holo circle
Do you mean "outside the VTuber circle"? Because I can post at very least one collab of most Holos with a non Holo VTuber in the past 6 months for half the talent in that company

>>7580917
Dunno where you were when people did and still do wave the flag of Gura as a representation of Holo's success, lol

>>7580945
There there anon, yoshi yoshi.
>now take your meds to make the mean voices go away

>>7580946
No.
>>7580971
not sure what he will stream next but the presence of Johnny's talent gave him a huge buff so don't expect another 140k that's for sure

>>7580972
Gen3+, go.

>>7581008
>constant nijisanji shitposting
>constant nijiEN shitposting
but when irys gets 4k on a stream the shitposting stops, weird huh?

>>7580616
>Won't happen tho, because Holos are too self-enclosed to reach those people.
Suisei would do it, she already collabed on two songs with Inotac, 3:12 and a TBA song. It's only a matter of time until she collabs with more mainstream musicians.

>>7581032
It's hard to point fingers when there's a mark on your side too, please understand

Stop being so fragile over Nijisanji everyone gets shitposted against.

>>7580968
Indonesia has some weird laws for YT donations and superchats. I don't know how it works exactly but I think they need Streamlabs for a reason.

This vsinger streamed more than fucking holomyth this week

>>7580972
Ya that's what I meant. I know holos have collabed with irl celebs before in radio shows, but I can't envision a stream collab with one.

>>7581015
>don't expect another 140k that's for sure
Won't be that high, but he did get a massive influx of subs today who might watch one of his streams. Since the last update, he's at 941k now, so he gained 16k subs today.

>>7580819
Without IRyS on that chart I'm very doubtful.

>>7581091
Perhaps that's why she was introduced, makes you think

>>7580970
Cope, the black ships are inevitable

>>7580945
>>7581032
Grow some balls and stop being a baby. People antipost both companies on this board every day, way more hate on Holos than Nijis.

>>7581091
I imagine Kiara still streamed more with her 7+ hour streams, no?

>>7580917
>Gura 3M
Gura didn't even mention her milestones

>>7581180
Man today is starting great with all this niggerlive copium

>>7581028
Rushia with All star cast Among us including Siro, Hime, Hina, Yuika, Kaede, Mememe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VDW6aArtEA

Towa with Bora Nun from Niji KR (know, >KR, she has with Niji JP as well)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MR42XNNRQ

I could find more examples for Gens 3 and 4, the only gen that is really more self contained is Gen5

>>7581032
why are nijiniggers so fragile?

>>7580945
>he listens to the tribalfags that don't care about either just post bait

I for one am happy that Nijisanji's great July wasn't just temporary hype, the 300k dream for the baseball finals may still happen.

>>7581180
So you're unironically claiming that Niji and Holo are received with equal attitudes?

>>7581096
>but I can't envision a stream collab with one.
IRL celebs? That's not really how Hololive rolls.

Hololive positioned themselves as
>interactive live action cute anime girls
as opposed to Nijisanji that positioned themselves as
>streamers that use a Live2D in place of a facecam

That makes the "Immersion" more or less ruined for Hololive where it doesn't for Nijisanji, and it makes it one of strength of the Nijisanji brand

>>7581232
> holobronies can only self project

>>7581258
just shut up and post numbers, the nijisanji generals are there for a reason. nobody expects good posts outside of generals and that goes for both holo and niji.

>>7581258
NTA but I'll go even further.
>most Hololive shitpost is based on hatred for them
>most Nijisanji shitpost is based on scorn and ignorance about them
For the most part people don't even know enough about Niji to shitpost about them and most of the shitpost is
>Nijisanji? Literally who?

At least in this board and site

>86k
rip minecraft

>>7581294
>Nijiniggers can only seethe

These threads are unironically rotting my brain.

>>7581258
As a Nijifag
Shut the fuck up, holy shit this whining takes up more thread space than the bait, you must be that same guy who was seething 3 threads ago over how unfair it is to be a Nijifag.

>>7580228
>>7580969
Yes, let's get back to numbers.
Even with that lineup, it's on Flare's channel and it was announced just 1 day before.
Optimistically, in the 60k area, if they hold off Marine+Noel till the 2nd half.

>>7581355
No nijifags say “as a nijifags” asslicker

>Iofi return
Predictions? Sorry for being so optimistic, I don't want to look like a falseflagger
> she will break 10k

>>7581355
>As a Nijifag
posts like that usually get factually btfo by actual nijifags

>>7581411
i'm thinking a nice 3 or 4k

>>7581411
>Covid 19 Buff
10k

>>7581361
Might even reach 75k
Dunno if I'm being too unrealistic

>>7581096
Suisei was on live tv tho

>$59,918
lauren iroas monetization celebration
great number considering he only had 7k live viewers peak

Just wanna say that i miss hiyoko already, and not even for numberfag reasons.

>>7581474
God damn is it Apex fags, pastlife fags, or fujos?

>>7581411
Hmm, hard to tell, it'll be at 15:00 for Japan and no other streams are scheduled at that time.
But to be honest, no drama boost. People saw that she didn't have heavy symptoms thankfully. There'll be a welcome party sure, but i don't know if 10K.

>>7581539
None, it’s actually fags who love his banters thronez shippers and Eden gumi enthusiasts

>>7581474
Here, to put that in context
>it would be higher than ANY Coco stream except for her graduation and the one the day before

>>7581411
1.5k maybe if Pochi shows up.

>>7581313
I would if >>7581180 wasn't purposefully pushing his take. I don't see you asking him to "Just shut up and post numbers", though, despite lacking any of it. Perhaps it's because of your bias.
So answer my fucking question.

>>7581618
>imagine being this fragile
Have you tried ignoring things that you dislike and enjoying things you like?

>>7581618
If you're a Nijifag you may be missing all the Hololive bait that happens if you stick to the Niji generals. People say >Hololive board but its true. Niji generals are dead as fuck (minus EN, and as you can see EN gets tons more bait). Do both sides get antis/shitposts? Yes. Hololive gets more because more anons are posting about Hololive. Nijisanji shitposting ramped up thanks to EN and some random rrats being dragged out of /jp/ or google translated blogs.

Not sure of what lauren's audience consist of but as someone who has fujo/yumejo friends and is familiar with their community, all i can say is their spending power is absurd, sorta like hardcore kpop stans.

>>7581640
>So answer my fucking question.
Can you not read? Why do you need to deflect such a simple question? It pains me to derail this thread so much but I cannot be helped but to be startled

>>7581705
If the question is
>Niji and Holo receive equal attitude
the answer is no. Nijisanji is very outnumbered in this board, both in positive posts and in negatives.

it is nothing personel against Nijisanji, just the fact they are not as present in english speaking circles. Sorry kiddo, not sorry

>>7581474
Yeah, wth? it's about triple his gen mantes max for monetization stream.

guess dangling it really makes it more appetizing.
But it's also 10k$ more than Coco's monetization stream. This is the most SCeted monetization stream ever.
I'm not really expecting Leos to surpass it, Lauren is more that type of guy to attract fujosi money and he just had collabs with Minato

>>7581695
Chronoir merch sales break their site. Though I'll be honest, I would have thought yumejos would flock to Oliver.

Wait, so Kuzuha collabed with people, as in, 3DPD? Is Nijisanji getting that desperate that they are willing to resort to that to compete with Hololive? I don't like Niji's future prospects. Absolutely bottom of the barrel strategy.

Looks like the peak for Kuzuha's stream has already passed. Did anyone catch what Kuzuha's peak was? The more specific the better

>>7581292
>streamers that use a Live2D in place of a facecam
I like that one as much as "Nijisanji has too many members to follow gotta go watch my favourite 50+ Hololive members"

>>7581808
>>7580501
Read the damn thread

>>7581792
The amount of cope in this post lmao

>>7581792
he collabs with facecam streamers on the regular, it just so happens that today a real life Jpop celebrity was also on his stream.

>>7581686
The general impression is that Holo =good, Niji =bad, plain and simple, although there are a multitude of reasons that enable that train of thought.
Holo's get a fair bit of hate threads which they do, but rather in a context of "Why is X a bad apple" rather than throwing shit at the group as a whole.

>>7581829
so 144k was the peak? Alright sounds good looks like Elite Miko blocks another one.

>>7581792
>he doesn't know Nijisanji have been collabing with 3D people since 2018

This really is a tale of 2 thumbnails. Flare is pretty late in announcing her Live but her Karaoke stream normally do comparable or better than Towa numbers. Towa's numbers will for sure start off much lower and i doubt she will reach what numbers Flare does. 45k Towa, 70k Flare.

>>7581705
People have answered your question.
>>7581327
>>7581686

One side gets more attention and more hate. The hatred towards Holos is way more specific and maliciously disinformative. Daily Kiara hate threads, 5% rrats, Irys being ugly threads, Matsuri being a dumb menhera bitch, Ayame being a lazy whore...etc, Many people here don't even know enough about Nijis to name anything specific, it's just basic doomposts which holos also get. Also, most "Nijihate" threads are just bait threads to get people to shit on Holos in retaliation and timeloop.

Stop feeling like a victim.

>>7581792
I know that's a bait but wasn't Suisei doing radio was some 3DPDs too?

>>7580669
anon, if you're using YouTube API, no one else will be able to request that data since they won't have your API key...

>>7581876
Miko's return live doesn't appear on Holostats though.

>>7581901
There are Nijis who have never been named once on this board meanwhile every single Holo rotates in a deck of bait threads and generals.

>>7581881
doing all these events in a row is dumb because they miss out on money that people might only drop on one girl.

>>7581792
Collab with 3DPD is their only hope to stand against Hololive

>>7581881
Understandable since gen 3 is on a different level in terms of fanbase compared to Hololive as a whole just like Chronoir in Nijisanji.

>>7581876
ABSOLUTELY BASED MIKO. Kuzuha collabs with a "real celebrity" and he still can't beat Miko's 145k return concert.

See, Hololive fans actually show up to watch ACTUAL VTUBERS!! They don't need no casual shit 3DPD "celebrities" to draw numbers.

>>7581901
Yes, as you can see my post was previous to those rational and detailed answers, unlike the crap before it which I am thankful for. However, I'm not as sure what to make of your, but thanks anyway.

>>7581876
>>7581945
>>7581983
boohoohoo

>>7581852
>The general impression is that Holo =good, Niji =bad
Only in the voices in your head. I surely doubt there is a single other thread where Nijis and Holos are discussed side by side other than
>this one
>troll threads

>>7581852
>Holo = good
>Niji = bad
All true

>>7581881
Towa going to mog flare cause guess what gen 4 got her back. Gen 4 bonds are strongest there is.

>>7582025
lol, bet?

>>7581927
>no one else will be able to request that data since they won't have your API key...
Wut? Each party requests their own data (necessarily in real time), compile it as they see fit and put it in their website

>>7581881
Expecting that too, despite Towa doing all the right promotion timewise and having the best 8PM Sunday night slot, she didn't post guests, doesn't have the 3rd gen JP buff and Flare normally has way higher viewer average.

If they both release a song right after though, expecting Towa's to do way better.

>>7581992
Like do you seriously think >>7581792 is anything but a shitty baiter? Learn to ignore these kinds of posts and you'll be less triggered here.

>>7582030
That would be interesting to see. I like your optimism.

>>7581983
This has always been the case. Nijisanji is casual normie shit in Japan while Hololive is the hardcore otaku favorite.

Watching Nijisanji is the equivalent to watching Jersey Shore, Big Brother, or some equivalent brain dead reality show.

>>7582071
The one you refer is an obvious shitpost. However >>7581180 is an argument shared among the board frequently and seems to be unironically agreed upon. Do you disagree?

>>7582058
making an entire website for the data is a lot harder than just making a command line pyscript to get that data.
It'd be cool if he can get a website running, but if it's a command line script, then each user will need their own API key.

>>7582203
>making an entire website for the data is a lot harder than just making a command line pyscript to get that data.
I know that. It's my day job for the past how many decades

>>7582146
if you look into bait threads, you will find trolls posting bait. learn to recognize them and ignore them. stick to generals for actual discussion. it's not a difficult concept.

>>7581943
I mean... If its someone's birthday or anniversary, what are you going to do? Say no because our numbers and SCs aren't going to be as high due to saturation?

At least Hololive is still at the size where everyone can request a 3D live for bday/anniversary. Pretty sure that doesn't happen nearly as much for Nijis, theres just too many of them.

>>7582203
>>7582219
Also Google themselves provide the API reference code if you need it and their API is free to use, only rate limited to 10000 "base units" a day, with each call being at least 1 unit.

>>7582229
And I have educated myself enough to decsern myself, and asked a yes/no question. Yet you still deflect but bother to reply.

>>7582146
That anon isn't wrong, there's like 4 other anons here that said the same thing,

>>7581901
>>7581752
>>7581686
>>7581327

People shit on both companies on this board. More people talk about holos so more people shit on them, with much more specific insults.

>>7582281
nigga that's because you're irritating as fuck, you can point out 'but what about this and that anon' at least they don't keep pushing the topic go jerk off or something

77k for not-minecraft

>>7582231
Tbqh the onus falls on them for initially lining up every event in anticipation of the summer vacation buff. Nwo that they've grown so large it's coming back to bite them.

>>7582231
Nowadays it might, about a year and a bit ago, it was very skewed towards the highest earners for these type of events and sponsorships.
Then again, most livers didn't have 3D versions back then. Niji's stepped up their game since.

>>7582360
It's better to space it out cause more people will have more money to SC. Not everyone can drop akasupas for 20 streams.

Jesus, are we going to numberfag shitposting/falseflagging threads next? I can understand the guy who is annoyed by all the niji shitposting, may be you have an oshi being shitposted but all i can say is just get use to it. The more popular niji gets in the english sphere, the more shitposting/falseflagging will happen.

>>7582377
Holo has a 3D "requirement" because they need it to appear on Hologra. It makes it very desirable because Hologra can boost a streamer in that week and any week they appear

>>7582359
They're really sticking together all night huh?

That's huge actually, means they really like playing with Kuzuha to stick through it 6 hours and multiple games in. They'll do it again.

>>7582467
his amogus was also a hit, seems they all get along

>>7582467
>they really like playing with Kuzuha
There is a reason for the crowd he holds, he is a very good entertainer both for the audience and for the guests

>>7582405
Guy mad at Nijishitposting acting like there aren't 20 other Holoshitposting at the same time.
Guess he's just mad that people are shitting at Nijis

Hopechama...

>>7582594
Project cope

>>7582359
Neat. Looking forward to see how much of an increase he'll have over prior data when he's on his own.

>>7582594
This is not her timeslot

>>7582467
Don't these idol celebrities actually have tight schedules? Looking at kpop crap I would've imagined them strapped to a 18 hour training day with nowhere to fit this kind of adhoc stuff

>1 million+ viewers already
>only 52k likes
why are the Japanese like this?

>>7582594
That's impressive for IRyS no doubt about it.

>>7582641
yamada said he's not busy tomorrow (today) and he's known by his fans to literally only play video games in his free time

>>7581091
Kiar...

WTF? Square Enix selling high quality Korone figurine
https://store.eu.square-enix-games.com/en_FR/product/679221/hololive-production-inugami-korone-17-scale-figure

I didn't even know they sold figurines
>255 eurobucks
Sorry Korone...

>>7582655
I don’t really watch western youtube streamers, how much do you think it should have

>>7581091
Isn't Ina in a break and Ame, Calli and Gura just back from one?

>>7582711
who?

>>7582467
Kuzuha's a likable guy, his track record of collabs with apex pros, vtubers and non vtubers proves this. Will probably be hard to schedule another one tho.

>>7582437
Hologra isn't that big of a boost honestly. Most people who watch it are already holofans. The only ones I've seen get an obvious Hologra boost is Ayame.

>>7582594
Irys streams at 5am pst/8am est on a weekday, competing against a mega gartic phone collab, and gets bad numbers. Not surprising at all.

From seeing Kuzuha collabing with celebrities, and smaller members like Chima, Levi, Haruka get to be in big events like AR live and koshien, I think NijiJP is probably going to be fine, some smaller members will be left to rot in the corner but I guess it can't be helped.
For the NijiEN though, that's pretty concerning. They're not like HoloEN where they're so popular they can just sit on their asses and wait for the big corps to give them jobs and money, and vtuber isn't mainstream here so there's no opportunity for them like the NijiJP. The only thing they can do is stream, but they're not popular enough to sustain themselves by only streaming.

>>7582730
>The only ones I've seen get an obvious Hologra boost is Ayame.
Subaru as well. Noel to a certain point (from that one episode she very graphically impaled Subaru with a Mace)

>>7582655
>>7582710
Part of it may be because they don't urge the audience to like and subscribe every 5 minutes

>>7582711
10M Let's go

>>7582693
Those puffy cheeks
HNNNNGGGG

>>7582693
Taito is like synonymous with cheap and super low quality UFO catcher prize figures in Japan. I have no idea why they are using that line for this 1/7 scale figure.

>>7582742
>some smaller members will be left to rot in the corner but I guess it can't be helped.

They still get support dipshit, even fags like hajime.

> For the NijiEN though, that's pretty concerning. They're not like HoloEN where they're so popular they can just sit on their asses and wait for the big corps to give them jobs and money, and vtuber isn't mainstream here so there's no opportunity for them like the NijiJP. The only thing they can do is stream, but they're not popular enough to sustain themselves by only streaming.

Did you miss how they’re inclining these past couple of days, also watch out for Selens endurance stream, it’ll make your post seem like it was written by a toddler

>>7582797
>Sells anyway because of popularity
>Goes for the cheapest manufacturer possible
It's not rocket science

>>7582807
You know you don't need to defend Niji from every perceived criticism, right? Some are legitimate, some are shitposts but all of them don't need you jumping up and down to defend them

>>7582693
>taito
>high quality
Holy shit my sides

>>7580616
>If you want a celeb
no thanks

>>7582730
Nah, if anything those are terrible numbers for Haachama given her much higher sub count and being prime time for her audience. For IRyS that's about what Mori gets (6-7k) in that slot.

>>7582841
Nope, I will seethe until I die.

FUCK HOLOBRONIES

FUCK TOURISTS

FUCK RETARDS

and most importantly

FUCK (YOU)

>>7582863
>and being prime time for her audience
Anon, plz, Haachama prime time stream was the Gartic Phone one, this one is her "late night Minecraft" bonus one, one that she had to cut short because of Motion sickness.

>>7582742
> they're not popular enough to sustain themselves by only streaming.
If streamers with smaller audiences can live off of streaming, I'm sure they'll be fine.

>>7582883
I get you but this isn't the simp thread

>>7582710
Looks like there were 2 million viewers so 200~250k likes before the archive. 4-5 times as much.

>>7582883
Why are Nijiniggers like this?

>>7582655
Seems to be in line with average engagement metrics.
Hololive just has stupidly high like ratios

>>7582944
Average like ratio to views is 5%

>>7582921
I've heard they don't even get a salary. Is that true?

>>7581096
>I know holos have collabed with irl celebs before in radio shows, but I can't envision a stream collab with one.
Rikka played Apex with Ueda Kana a few days ago, if that counts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9cRb3Fw4A

>>7582102

>>7583040
The idea of streamers receiving a salary seems alien in the scheme of things

>>7583084
hey look that's my wife (male)

>>7583040
Probably, but seeing as all of lazulight's limited voicepacks sold out ($135 x 100) and they get decent SC numbers, I can't imagine them struggling. They're more successful than half of NijiJP already.

Man feels bad being EOP. I have no idea why Pekora keeps playing DQ5 and grinding mobs.

>>7583088
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
>THEY DO IT FOR FREE?!
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, YOU SURELY JEST

>>7583080
Now I wonder how many Fate references were dropped in that stream. Though Kana isn't as into it as some other Fate seiyuu from what I recall.

> Luna playing Electone = 2k viewers
> Luna reading Superchats = 4k viewers
is it because most streams have ended already?

>>7583116
Pekora can do anything and hold 22k so she does what she enjoys

>>7583080
rikka had a lot of high profile collabs
though it doesnt seem to help his popularity

>>7583116
You can tell who is struggling vs who isn't by checking how much they debuff themselves.

>>7583135
She had 6k viewers while playing

>>7580917
gura didn't even need to mention the 3 million milestone because its just a stepping stone

>>7583135
SupaReading is half zatsu, i can see people being more into it after the novelty wore off

>>7581214
Watch streams

REFLECT-Gawr Gura
8 million views(46 days 6 hrs 34 min )
+Topic channel : 8.95 million
+Topic channel, Spotify : 11.93 million

>>7583156
Not really

Kuzuha is playing fucking GOLF for 75k
What even is content

1.4k waiting in selens stream.

https://youtu.be/35035rynoh0

>>7583182
huh, I must've tuned in too early then.

>Another Astel + Roboco + Choco APEX training collab tomorrow
WIll the lightining fall twice in the same place and Astel mog them both again?

I expect so, his APEX play is actually good unlike Choco that spends most of her time in her fours

>>7583270
100 kills shouldn't be much of an endurance stream I'd think.

>>7583240
Truuueeee. Double debuff (Shin chan + early-day stream). For this DQ stream, it's a Friday Night in JP.

>>7583270
>>7583255
Tale of two Niji branches

>>7583231
Gura didn't even post milestones on twitter right? How can people congrat her? I know Matsuri and Miko talked about it on their stream

>>7583300
No doubt, it's rather painful to watch Roboco or Choco in a killcam

>>7583321
astel did quite a lot of these, took him about 5-6hrs on average

>>7583240
That was the week she was streaming twice a day, with the debuf stream being the early stream

>>7583331
Friday nights are a debuff, at least pre-covid

>>7583331
>Pekora can do anything and hold 22k
This is what you said

>>7583334
most niji jp would kill for 1.4k regular viewers

>>7583353
I like Choco suffering noises

>>7583351
Gura don't do twitter at all

>>7583366
Selen should be able to do it in 3-4 hours. She's better than Astel.

>>7583240
That was during a terrible time slot and most people came to her for her evening stream.

But still, continuing about Pekora's numbers.
I thought all the multiple spread out streams could hurt her numbers in the long runs, spread her audience thin. But the numbersmaster knew what she was doing.
Her evening streams still got ~30k peak, with Minecraft, collabs, or novelty like the cooking and bus streams.

>>7583255
JWU? Kuziha has been playing with a Jpop idol and Stylishnoob for 6 hours now. They peaked at ~144k.

I'm a holofag, but I respect Kuzuha and his numbers so I'm really curious if he sees a permanent incline in CCV from this week. Between Koshien, Hikakin and today, he's had the best growth week he's ever had, gaining 46k subs this week (20k just from today). He usually gets thatin a month.

Now we know subs don't always translate into CCV (Gura's current CCV is arguably lower than she was at 2mil subs and Pekora's CCV is the same as it was in Jan 2021 despite gaining 500k subs), but I wonder if it's different for another company.

>>7581361
> Only single/pair songs

Flare: A lot of collabs lately, but her base audience is around 5.5k
Marine: a lot of buff contents lately, but I think her base audience is around 22k

So:
(5.5k + 22k) + 40k box buff + 20% tourist buff = 80k peak

>>7583481
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g

Forgot to source numbers. He's at 942k subs now.

>>7583234
Please format that differently, you make it look as if the topic channel is at 9 million views and spotify at 12

>>7583351
Nope, but she did retweet a bunch of 3M related art though. The other talents can congratulate her privately of course.

>>7583398
>mfw i actually didn't know there was a night mode

>>7582711
I'm so proud of her

>>7583457
She’s doing her RPG streams outside of her prime time slot. She knows what she’s doing.

>>7583451
not really

>>7583514
Then why didn't she tweet?
First vtuber reach 3M and beat Kizuna Ai is a big deal
And why didn't she hold a 3M celebration party?
Was she to shy to do that?

>>7583630
She never tweets. More than that, she said something to the effect of
>I'm a VTuber, not a VTweeter
to put down any attempt to force her to do social media

>>7583578
I haven't seen Astel get 15-20 kills in a game all that often like I have with Selen.

>>7583451
>>7583578
Rank wise, she was much better, but she hasn't played that seriously in a while.
Which is why, she's lower rank with most of her accounts than he was during the 100 challenge, so she can probably get it pretty fast by stomping 1-2 matches before it gets really hard.

>>7583578
Your shart looks garbage compared to selen

>>7583717
>She never tweets
Not really
She barely tweets but she does tweet

>>7583481
>Holofag
>Respect Kuzuha
nice false flag Nijinigger

>>7583765
Yeah, that's pedant but you're right. It is not zero.

>>7582711
ETA to 10M?

>>7583630
Because she wants to be respectful to Kizuna and doesn't want the obvious perception of crapping on her by celebrating?
I do understand how the concept of mutual respect can be a difficult concept to take in for SEAs.

>Anya 1.2k for one of the most debuff games of all time
What?
Are they all coming over from Luna's stream? Looks like she's holding steady...3 hours in though

>>7583481
It’s quite simple but most people outside these threads want to deny it. Nijisanji is mainstream normie tier in Japan.

>>7583717
Given how she used twitter before Hololive......
Well, I can understand her not wanting to use her corpo twitter for anything beyond liking art and tweeting streams.
>>7583630
She said she was planning on it, but then that week emergency happened and now who knows if we'll ever get it.

Kuzuha is on the other level. He can collab with anybody. Even the celebrities want to collab with him. On the other hand Pekora is reclining. She cant mog Kuzuha anymore. And because she is ghosting other members so the collab still cant help her raise the number.

>>7583010
NijiCN attracts a lot of chinese.

>>7583824
Fuck off tribalfag, your kind isn't welcome in these threads anymore

>>7583756
both are trash compared to iroas
but as i said well see
astel can get this challenge done in ~5 hrs

Anya beating Hana is not something you see too often.

>>7583040
Yea, this is why a lot of their talents are still in education.

>>7583756
Anon, comparing last Astel stream with Selen stream (same day) he beat hear peak.
More than that, he clearly held the audiience while she let her slip through.

I like Nijis and I like Holos and I like Stars, that means I would certainly not be talking shit about anyone in the numbers thread using NijiEN's streamers.
Even the fact this post may get a rebuttal and someone may interject
>NijiEN is not trailing Holostars
proves the point I'm trying to make

>>7583885
>Given how she used twitter before Hololive......
>Well, I can understand her not wanting to use her corpo twitter for anything beyond liking art and tweeting streams.
It's not just that, if you look at Matsuri's both accounts it's pretty much Gura prev life with less depression and more menhera.

But she burned out hard on having a "social media life", that's for sure

>>7582742
Have you checked how much the NijiENs gets in supas? Some of them get comparable to many holos. With voicepacks, streamlabs and memberships, they will be more than fine

holocucks on suicide watch

>>7583974
90% of time the one accusing of tribalfagging is the true tribalfag

>>7584036
Anon, what are you doing?
Comparing Astel's 'Highest Viewers' point all month, with all the hype formation of a Stars+Hololive team had behind it, with a regular Selene stream?
Don't do Astel like that and don't misuse numbers like that.
Selene already has 4.2k right now and growing.

>>7584036
Anon I meant in apex skills holy fuck and thanks for showing me that chart, despite the audience size the shart gets garbage supas.

>>7583902
>Pekora is reclining. She cant mog Kuzuha anymore
Okey screenshot already
I find out Nijiniggers getting arrogant easily once they get good numbers
Remember when JP new branch debut?
"Leos is holo killer!" "He is next Kuzuha!"

>>7584152
>Selene
>Selene

Selen has 4.2k right now holoshart

>>7583855
In 5 weeks.

>>7583738
He did when he played with Ollie, it's just that Apex doesn't usually stream his smurf stomping rounds

>>7583351
>Gura didn't even post milestones on twitter right? How can people congrat her? I know Matsuri and Miko talked about it on their stream
In that same stream, Miko mentioned that she wants to collab with Gura. That would be interesting to watch.

>>7583858
Anya has been inclining lately.
HoloID is doing pretty well this month.

>>7584170
> "Leos is holo killer!" "He is next Kuzuha!"

Holobronies falseflagging as a nijisanjis fan is not a fan dipshit

>>7584200
Just in time for her debut celebration.

>>7584166
nah, it's just Astel who forgets to turn superchats back on after his last challenge.
Otherwise, he's the highest supa earner

Total Revenue
$123,586

>>7584170
Anon can you at least make an attempt to hide your SEAness, it doesn't paint a good picture

>>7584257
And a new niji jp earned half of that as soon as he turn on superchats for the first time kek.

Your shart will definitely incline but stop embarrassing yourself

>>7584257
My Mistake, Ofc Roberu - $186,071

>>7584166
anon... I'm pretty sure he had superchat turned off for this stream.

>>7584257
Bruh if you were looking at Nijis at all as you claimed, you'd be afraid to flaunt those superchat earnings

Stop using holostars numbers to embarrass yourself anon lol.

>>7584253
weird how these "falseflaggers" make up the majority of their jp fanbase as well

>>7584322
>>7584183
>nijis call me holobro for wiring about Astel
>holos call me nijinerd for wiring about Selene
>in actuality they're both just tribal trolls pathetically trying to troll
yeah yeah, we know your kind lives in these numbers threads and all your methods, get a life already

>>7584322
>>7584183
>nijis call me holobro for writing about Astel
>holos call me nijinerd for writing about Selene
>in actuality they're both just tribal trolls pathetically trying to troll
yeah yeah, we know your kind lives in these numbers threads and all your methods, get a life already

>>7584418
>>7584489

Got BTFO so hard the retard posted it twice

>>7584397
Not really? The Holo bubble is just as prevalent in the JP sphere as is overseas. The vtuber news outlets ARE the falseflaggers themselves in jp.

>>7584152
Proving my point. If it is even close to compare a Holostar with whoever it can only prove two things

1) Holostars inclined hard lately
2) Whoever is being compared is not even in the same league of the rest of the streamers mentioned in the numbers thread

>>7584322
>And a new niji jp earned half of that as soon as he turn on superchats for the first time kek.
Also proving my point. When there is even a competition between Holostars and whoever else, whoever else clearly is a small fish not even worthy of this thread

I'll say it again: if you are debating whether or not whoever you are talking about is beating Holostars, you know it doesn't belong to the numbers thread

>>7584508
>obviously can't read
I for one have standards, and couldn't let those typos go through

>>7584510
WUT? Hololive are so big they can warp reality into writing about Nijisanji in a favorable way in order to subvert expectation? Even in Japan?

I don't think you thought about that properly anon

>>7584580
>whoever else clearly is a small fish not even worthy of this thread

The niji jp already has 140 subs, he’s no small fish, he’ll even with most holostars having 100k+ subs they have below average viewers, comparable to low tier niji girls.

>>7584654
>The niji jp already has 140 subs
WOW! That's huge!

>>7584197
Oh nyo~
Ollie popping on you

>>7584654
140k but you know what I meant

>>7584674
I meant 140k kek
>>7584703
>took a collab to get it to those numbers
At least use moona she actually has a dedicated audien

What the fuck, Kuzuha is almost at 950k subs. I swear it feels like he was below 900k not that long ago.

>>7584761
See >>7583481
Idolfans probably subbing droves to chat since his chat is in sub-only mode. 20k in a day is not normal for holo or niji.

>>7584631
The JP vtuber news shtick has always been to crap on the top dog. They care very little about who they are against or are favorable for. All they care about is what brings the most adsense revenue.

>>7584761
I mean, just a few seconds ago he was at 943K, now he's at 944K

>>7584761
Kuzuha's inclining hard thanks to Hikakin and Hey Say Jump guy, earlier this year I wouldn't even expect him to reach 1M subs before december and now guy is speedrunning it.

>>7584734
Oh nyo~

>>7584847
Much better

>>7584713
>>7584654
>comparable to low tier niji girls.
Every post people spend comparing X to Holostars proves my point even further for that exact reason.

Nobody would EVER be in this thread saying things to the effect of
> X streamer may be trailing Suzuki Aki in Y, but at least they're ahead her in Z

Suzuki Aki:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpnvhOIJ6BN-vPkYU9ls-Eg/videos
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCpnvhOIJ6BN-vPkYU9ls-Eg

Here is the thing: nobody would ever take that as a badge of honor or a successful defense to whatever argument they might be having.

If a person are discussing someone numbers as small as Holostars or Suzuki Aki (121k subs, triple digits live viewers) the numbers thread is most definitely not the place to be bragging about anything

>>7584761
He got almost 30k subs today alone.
Out of those 144k max, over 2 million viewers that checked the stream, many were not vtuber or Kuzuha fans.
Among the best single stream for exposure Kuzuha and by extension vtubers have had.

>>7584833
There's a account on twitter that keeps track of every growth tick. Kuzuha is literally adding 1k every 15 minutes.

>>7584874
At least get his name right when you claim knowledge lol

>>7584892
The Hikakin vtuber debut VOD has 3.7mil views too. Massive exposure.

>>7584847
Doesn't Ollie get better numbers when she plays chess?

Kuzuha boy, it's your time.
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g

>>7584874
So are we going to ignore olga or rikka? You’re really not helping your case here.

At least post high tier people like roberu then I’ll take you seriously

>>7580501
>pekora losing this hard to marine
Uuh... why?

>>7584892
He jumped from 901k on the 4th to 941k right now.
40k in 4 days would lead even Gura for the same period.
it is not the biggest jump in subs by a Vtuber ever (or even the past 2 months, given both Coco and KSon jump and Irys massive debut) but it is something very very very very rare

More than that, more than the numbers he got is the reason he got them
>mostly from people outside the VTuber circle

He may have expanded the Vtuber audience by some 100k people in that time span

>>7584892
Coco's graduation

>>7584976
Pekora solo stream, Marine had like an 8 member Gartic Phone collab.

>>7584956
He's actually +22k today now. It's crazyyyy.

>>7580532
I was thinking about it, but I don't want to work in my free time.

A good comparison on how holostars fare is to compare them to the VALZ members.

>>7585001
And here we have anon, who thinks the people who subbed to kuzuha never heard of Vtubers before. In Japan.

>>7585013
He said "among the best", not the absolute best.

Do any ex-Arashi or similar people of similar caliber play apex
Now that Kuzuha set a precedent any JP colab seems possible

>>7584967
>high tier people like roberu
Anon, stop proving my point. If you are even entertaining the idea of saying
>high tier people
and
>Roberu
in the same sentence there is no argument to be had.

>>7584976
>Uuh... why?
Marine being the focal point and only good artist in a 8 POV collab

>>7584931
My bad, for some reason the design threw me off and I ended up using a female name that popped up in my head instead of Suzuya Aki
Kanji muzukashi

>>7585013
>>7584943
Since we're just listing important streams for exposure now
>Gura's debut
>Coco's debut
>Lamy and the rest of Gen5's debut
>Nijisanji 2020 baseball final
>Gura first unarchived Karaoke
unironically - Pokimane's vtuber debut

Today is Jam-packed with news from all over. From Error, Gura's crashing the nendo site, Vei/Froot BBC to Kuzuha rising in E-Celeb Status.

>>7585070
WTF? Is it hard to imagine that there are people in the Hikakin audience and in the JPop audience that never took an interest in VTubers?

For fuck sake, take the stick out of your ass and think before posting

>>7585111
Why Pokimane if there is PDP?

>>7585124
So your claim is that the people of Japan have 100% literacy on the topic of vtubers and know Kuzuha...?

>>7585124
Lol you should live by your own words

>>7584892
> by extension vtubers have had

How many % dislike does his stream get compared to his other 3dpd collabs? Exposing niche contents outside of the niche audience will get more dislikes than usual.

>>7585087
Ok anon then compare holostars to VALZ and you’ll see why that their incline is pretty garbage. Hell Astel collabing with coco and roboco boosting his numbers proves that the incline and be much faster.

And before you say VALZ are a different league, they have similar subscribers to holostars. Go on, I’m waiting

>>7585158
>So your claim is that the people of Japan have 100% literacy on the topic of vtubers
No? You may have replied to the wrong poster and intended to reply to >>7585070 because my point is the opposite

I believe lots of JPop fans had their first contact with both Kuzuha and VTubers today

>>7584943
Apex collab is also over 1mln by now.

>>7585200
oh my bad i misread

>>7585169
Here are my words, summarized
>Kuzuha did a great thing this week by bringing positive exposure for VTubers for a whole new audience in Japan
I don't know what you are reading from what I wrote but that's without a doubt the truth

Used to like both companies. It all changed after coming into this thread. Now, I seethe seeing Kuzuha's rising numbers when all it entails is the rising growth of normies who would watch more vtubers. Both companies mutually depend each other, but fans sees them as competitors.

>>7585192
I meant could be much faster. Why the fuck am I having brain farts today

>>7585176
You could read the thread you know.
The other anons were complaining that Nijisanji is mainstream in Japan (it is) while you're here throwing it back to a "niche audience"

>>7584170
Just wait for the summer break buff to end and we get back to daily Hololive totally mogging Nijishitty. Its like the people getting arrogant now weren't around last year when the exact same thing happened.

>>7585257
There's a nuance to it though. Anime might be mainstream but still niche. I feel vtubers fall in similar caveats.

>>7585111
>Lamy and the rest of Gen5's debut
Kinda hilarious that it's the biggest thing they've done. Maybe they'll actually pass those debut numbers one day. Maybe not.

>>7585048
No, it's not, stars lose by a lot.

>>7585281
>Hololive totally mogging Nijishitty
Not when the new nijisanji jps has anything to say about it, if anything only EN 2 would cause hololive to have pure domination, then again koushien last year brought many new nijisanji fans and this year could be even bigger.

>>7585309
Nene did it (not one)

>>7585309
tbf most vtubers nowadays never beat their debut numbers. Only chance is costume for holos or 3D debuts.

>>7585281
Last year's summer was entirely about Coco and EN carrying Holo to glory, I'm not sure about what you're talking about. Were you really there when it happened?

>>7585257
Refering to Nijisanji as mainstream isn't a good thing. Its the equivalent of reality TV trash and just as shitty and low grade.

>>7585251
>>7585192
>Ok anon then compare holostars to VALZ
FOR FUCK SAKE! Am I the one sane man in a mad world?

I am saying for about 10 posts now
>comparing whatever to Holostars, the smallest fish in the smallest pond, is silly in a thread where people usually compare big numbers to slightly smaller but still big numbers

And, yet, I get 10 people saying?
> WOW! YOU CAN'T COMPARE HOLOSTARS WITH X OR Y LIKE THAT!! NOW COMPARE THEM WITH Z AND SEE HOW THEY MATCH

No, really, the whole point of bringing Holostars is to highlight that comparing numbers this small are not worthy this thread, if you have to bring even more smallish numbers to compare I don't know what to say

>>7585334
>koushien last year brought many new Nijisanji fans
Yeah and the period of March, until basically now, was the biggest mogging Hololive has ever dealt on Nijisanji. Were you hear for the numbers threads? It was a slaughter every single day. We will go back to that after summer break so get ready for it Nijinigger.

>>7585353
He likely meant August

>>7585367
Anon I said to compare them to VALZ because they’re similar in size.

Do it anyway because it’ll be useful or are you still not wanting to post it.

Iryschama...

I seriously can't comprehend why anybody would watch Nijisanji. Its like willingingly watching cape shit in the US. Disgusting.

>>7585434
Oh and before you backpedal l, no, this time around I want you compare them to VALZ as they’re not bigger in terms of sub size but share similar audiences.

Go on I’m fucking waiting

>>7585434
>Do it anyway because it’ll be useful or are you still not wanting to post it.
Please do it yourself. Why make **me** go to lengths of proving whatever point you are trying to make when you clearly are in a better position to do yourself?

>>7585309
In numbers, they were about 10k shy of their debut during their 3D debuts
As >>7585341 said, Nene did it twice
Debut - 80,031
New Nene - 111,367
3D - 92,919

>>7585341
Her 3D still failed to pass 2D redebut

The numbers thread feels more like the shitty bait thread these last eight hours

>>7585486
Here’s one kaida haru and roberu, easy right and they’re pretty close right?

>>7585526
But that is what it has always been

>>7585477
Only Japs watch NijiJP
Numberfags only watch their numbers to shitpose

>>7585334
Not gonna contribute to this tribal shitfest, but the new NijiJPs have mostly fallen back to Earth now. Leos peaked at 15k today and Lain got 11k. Lauren might get good numbers playing Apex tho.

>>7585514
Yes, New Nene had a bigger character arc and attracted more people who were rooting for her.
3D debut was a victory lap

>>7585531
Actually nagao kei and roberu would be an even better example

>>7585434
>Anon I said to compare them to VALZ because they’re similar in size.
how the fuck are they similar? i looked them up and they`ve more subs, more superchat and higher views too.

>>7585537
Nope, it's usually like this when the Americans leave work and the "save HoloEN" baiting starts. We're still about 4 hours away from that.

>>7585531
>>7585572
>no pic
>no link
I see