/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

they are just a stepping stone for the next stage of virtual entertainment

>>7636952
Depends if there's a meta shift.
There's only a few more left.

1. Male meta for envtuber audience
2. France/french anime demographic
3. Spanish anime consuming demographic
4. Adding gambling and investing into vtubing
5. A vtuber company entering the stock market

If anyone figures anyone of those, it will alter the meta.

it depends if EN gen2 is popular or not

>>7636952
Vtubers will never fade away because they're cute 2D girls doing cute things and there will always be a market for that as long as disgruntled and/or pathetic men like us exist.

Should at least see another spike.

>>7636952
peak again with the future lockdowns later this year

>>7637299
>2. France/french anime demographic
I dont believe it, Saruei is the peak example of the saturation of IRL streamers in France she has to become an american e-thot to get a public

>>7639995
The French are a bit more casual in their anime consumption (bigger fans of shounenshit than average) so they're a bit behind on this trend. Even though she's not exactly going specifically for the French crowd, she might be the bridge that brings vtubing to the French demographic. It will be interesting to see how that goes.

>>7637299
>2
This frog is gaining traction.

>>7636952
niche markets should stay in their lane until it catches on mainstream for normies

>>7636952
once all the current holos graduate, vtubers will slowly die.

>>7641773
VA is just addicted to drama

>>7636952
They're not going anywhere. Virtualization of the human race is the end goal. One day, we'll all be VTubers.

>>7636952
hopefully it ends soon so we can all be free

>>7636952
Eye of the storm.

China is around 1.05 males to females but in the next 10 years that's going to hit 1.15 m/f.

Going to be like 10-20m new bachelors in China that will never be able to have a family.

It's not as bad for other countries but the rates going forward are increasingly "forever alone" male bachelors in general.

>>7636952
it will always be around, at best, you'll see some random content creator that happens to be a vtuber take off like crazy like how random streamers blow up seemingly out of nowhere(like that dream dude and all those random guys he plays with)

>>7643170
i've said it before but a good first step would be haptics simulation to close the gap between vtubers and the viewer. imagine the supas thrown at literally simulated handholding

>>7636952
Neither. They're a trend that's here to stay but will probably never hit the mania that lockdown provided

>>7636952
Vtubing needs to go through its postmodernist phase to remain relevant; current vtuber content is getting stale, but now the conventions of the medium have mostly been established and creative, intelligent people can fuck around with them or straight up shatter them. This is probably too much to ask though, since the consumer dictates the quality and nature of the content, and all vtuber fans want is cute anime girls playing video-games. That's not to say there isn't a place for that stuff, but the medium has a lot of wasted potential.

>>7639995
You mean the "French" streamer that talks in English 90% of the time?

Vtubers in general aren't going away anytime soon. Some content creators will disappear and others will rise to replace them

I think vtubers are closer to a new form of entertainmeant or media. Like the TV was in the 60s, or the net in the 90s, sure its about to have its DOTCOM bubble burst, but its going to stick around for a while

>>7652128
>she has to become an american e-thot to get a public

your reading comprehension reps anonchama

>>7636952
They will start whoring themselves out on only fans like regular streamers do now a days

>>7636952
Vtubers aren't going anywhere. Vtubers have been going strong in some form or another since 2016 so they have proven to have staying power over your usual fad. Specific individual vtubers may fade away but the medium as a whole is here to stay.

>>7636952
>Will vtubers peak again or fade away slowly?
I highly doubt that they will fade away, maybe the novelty will lessen when people realize that they are for the most part streamers with an anime aesthetic where some are heavily dedicated to creating music or art.
You can start doomposting when streaming dies though.

>>7654616
>she has to become an american e-thot to get a public
If she doesn't speak in French, then it's obvious she's not going to attract the French audience

>>7651942
Summed up most of my current thoughts about vtubing. There’s definitely so much wasted potential and the audience including people here are to blame.

>>7654823
Okay, what are some examples of chuubas that you'd like to see?

Cryptocurrency will replace paper money in the future and the next step for entertainment is virtual avatars. How we feed our families is how we are able to entertain people in the future earning those online currencies

>>7654811
Reading reps, she started speaking english when the frogs didn't provide her with growth.

>>7654849
I would like to see something other then
>turn on stream
>play game while either talking about mundane shit or baiting for superchats
>end game
>read superchats
Just something more creative and that takes more effort then just playing a game. I honestly miss the 4 kings era.

>>7654901
There's small vtubers that do creative things or focus o a niche hobby or skill they do, like programing

>>7654928
That’s interesting i guess I’ll go on a indie hunt then

>>7654901
>Just something more creative and that takes more effort then just playing a game.
Like what? /asp/ is full of desperate 2views who will probably try anything you throw at them.

>>7654957
The only indie I've found interesting is that orc office dude that's been posting short videos of himself talking in r/VirtualYoutubers

>>7636952
Virtual avatars are going to be the norm of our very near future cyberpunk dystopia, but I don't think vtubers in their current form will lead the way. Their popularity in the west will cool off before the next paradigm shift.

>>7637100
AI, fully programmed to be entertainers, withiot pesky problems like self-awareness, desires to live their own lives, and thoughts of abandoning the company

>>7636952
>EN losing steam because of faggot fatigue
>suddenly a meme among EoP's that vtubing is dying
Please continue believing this. I want you and the EN tubers to go away.

>>7643841
I dont think you understand what you're talking about. Globally, men are slightly more rare than women, china is literally the exception because of the old fashioned kill or abort girls thing the cccp used to do. In every other country the complete lack of manhood and perceived rarity of breedable women is a result of the second world war and capitalism and communism working together to render men toothless, gutless, soulless, and pollution contributing to shrinking cocks, and the final nail in the coffin being our diets of soft processed foods evolving future generations to have weaker jaws and jawlines. I think that's what you're talking about, not china.

>>7636952
People said that AVGN clones were going to dissapear due to oversaturation but now you have Scott the woz doing the same shit James did 10+ years ago and doing way better than him.

>>7636952
It's a medium, not a series.

>>7636952
high quality 3D tracking is needed, not only concerts, but fun activities, small games or competitions, just hanging around, so many options.

>>7636952
we've had this question answered before. read this, and the reply to it.
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/987688/#987960

tl;dr Vtubers are like minecraft youtubers, they're going to hit a dry patch, with growth slowing down, a couple of who's will fall off the map, but a good number of the big players will survive. Eventually something will cause renewed interest in Vtubers and they'll come back bigger than before.

>>7654901
stop watching hololive

>>7636952
When Adobe creates their own vtuber rigging software things will change

>>7651942
Not everything has to be an exercise in intellect. Stop with this deconstructive mentality. It can only do more harm than good.

>>7668925
Experimental media has been able to exist in harmony with conventional media for centuries. Why is it so harmful to want more varied content?

>>7636952
vtubing will die off just like internet-based content and streaming died off. no one even remembers shit like vine or justin.tv and no one even bothered to continue doing internet content.
it's a fad like renting movies by mail or internet forums

>>7636952
The VTuber reach is already huge and I don't think there's much further expansion room, lockdown just provided more people time to watch. We won't see growth near that level again.

The community has already had exposure from the mainstream streamers and it didn't cause a huge shift.

The Spanish market may cause some growth but a lot of those people already speak English so it likely isn't worth the investment. China is a lost cause.

The big companies will stay relevant but sub 200 viewer streamers will get hit hard as their act becomes stale.

>>7669371
Vine got superseded by tiktok and justin.tv became Twitch.
Last I checked, both of those were doing pretty well. Companies evolve or die, but the market they served continues.

Vtubers are just a kind of streamer.
People won't suddenly decide they shouldn't use live2D anymore, so vtubers will keep existing.

>>7655201
Please provide evidence and elaborate on how eating processed foods evolves the jawline towards weakness. I don't have the strongest memory of evolution and would like to refresh.

>>7655201
>china is literally the exception because of the old fashioned kill or abort girls thing the cccp used to do.
I know China has a reputation for being idodic, but they at least knew how reproduction worked right? Fucking lunatics.

>>7636952
Pewdiepie still has a huge audience doing the same thing he's done for nearly a decade. vtubers still have a lot of room to grow.
>>7673092
the chinks know how reproduction works, but because of the one child policy and laws exempting woman from having to take care of their elderly parents, a lot of them had to choose between killing their daughters and pretending that kid never happened or face a retirement in poverty. needless to say, many chose the former.

>>7673422
Was the whole one child policy a overpopulation thing or was it just the CCP being dicks again? And considering some of the shit they've done there are way more...effective (if inhumane, but since when did they care about that?) ways to reduce the population.

>>7669136
Be the change you want to see. If no one is willing to shift the meta, you're going to have to be the one that does it.

>>7671502
autistbro your sarcasm reps...

One thing that woudl spice up Vtubing.
make a voice chat as well as a text chat, but put some serious channel and bandwidth control on that
also, volume control, overall can't be more than 50% of the Vspeaker.

>>7671502
Dude. I think the joke went way over your head.

>>7637100
This.

>>7651942
working on it anon

>>7636952
Considering EOP are the most ADHD riddled fucks on the earth who get bored of something after a few months and then forget it exists, HoloEN's peak will never be touched again because the short-attention span retards have been filtered.
>(You) still watch vtubers? lmao bro that was so 2020.