/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

amelia is somewhat entertaining i guess

>>8025133
Amelia may be entertaining but her voice is grating

>>8025164
pff

>>8025133
>>8025133
>>8025133
>One of them has the highest amount of earnings of her gen, rap album that went #1 in multiple countries, has 23 million views in one video, will have a stable fanbase even after new gens because of her music
>Another has the most loyal fanbase, BTFOing the biggest subbed Holo everytime they stream on the same day, her being on the billboard in the most popular city in the world is still the top achievement of any fanbase
>One lives rent free in everyone's heads
>One has a nendoroid and got sponsored by Taco Bell
>The protagonist became the next Coco

>>8025133
I love Kawaiiope Moririn and

I'm just hoping that the new additions won't rock the boat too much just as it was starting to get comfy. IRyS is a good sign at least.

>>8025280
Strongly doubting their personalities will cause any real ripples.

So are they debuting today on their own streams or what?

>>8025133
I hope Ame gives birth to a health baby soon.

>>8025133
What's going on now?

>>8025133
>Mori and Kiara at the fucking center hogging all the attention
This artist should kill himself, you know he drew the other 3 girls out of commitment.

HoloMyth was lightning in a bottle. Will lightning strike twice?

>>8025527
>lightning in a bottle
Anybody, literally anybody would have been so not really.

>>8025133
They stay away from the JP girls enough that I am usually able to forget they exist.

>>8025133
talentless, lazy and useless whores who need to graduate

>>8025811
This isn't a watame thread

>>8025206
>Another has the most loyal fanbase, BTFOing the biggest subbed Holo everytime they stream on the same day
Only because the "biggest subbed Holo" actually does pretty shit live numbers and all the mid-level girls do better than her.

i hope of them is a menhera, i want a menhera like matsuri that speaks english

>>8025920
that's all indies

>>8025811
Damn Watame

>>8025916
The fact that she's inclining while everyone else in her gen are declining bad says a lot about her loyal her fanbase is. She's even doing better than most of her JP senpai consistently now.

>>8025133
BOUT DAMN FUCKING TIME

WE SHOULDVE HAD OVER 15 ENS BY NOW

>>8025133
I hope my oshi will find a new friend to play with.

>>8026375
Based

>>8025133
i think gura is funny and cute and talented when she isn't depressed
kiara clearly cares about hololive
ame wants to deliver content she can be proud of
ina is ina is a very talented artist
mori
mori still streams despite her aut
mori doesn't have it easy but never gave up

>>8025811
Why are you treating the jp girls like that anon..

>>8026375
So she can ghost them like she did to her genmates and senpais right?

>>8025206
Takos really need to learn their place. Little shits

>>8025527
>HoloMyth was lightning in a bottle
No it wasn't, none of them are objectively great vtubers

>>8027240
How would you define an objectively great VTuber, anon? The HoloEN girls are dominating the EN scene by a large margin

>>8027277
By how good they are at being a vtuber, not the numbers they get
They get lots of viewers because they're in Hololive, not because they're so much better than everyone else

>>8027312
That's your appreciation autistic faggot, it isn't objective.

>>8025515
You must be retarded, or else you'd know that 99% of EN art always has Gura and Ame front and centre. God forbid it'd be different this one time

>>8027312
How do you measure how good someone is as a VTuber in an objective way anon? Who are better EN Vtubers than the HoloEN girls?
Numbers show interest, and if you aren't getting good numbers then you aren't that interesting to most viewers.

>>8027391
It's not subjective either

>>8025133
I'm not watching any of the lore when is the actual debut?

>>8027434
You don't even know the meaning lmao. Go back to school dropout

Nearly a year after debut, the only one I still actively follow is Ina. That's one out of five. Not great.

>>8027504
Based dogfucker

>>8027430
>Numbers show interest
And interest comes from many things, including brand loyalty, everyone who joins Hololive gets hundreds of thousands of subs regardless
If everyone were on equal footing then you could use numbers to gauge real interest but when brands like Hololive exist it's not an accurate measurement

>>8025133
What if Council doesn't actually reveal anything new and Cover just fucks off for another few weeks before releasing another short? It's unlikely considering it comes out so soon after the last short, but it'd be funny.

>>8027492
Grow a brain

>>8025920
Luckily for you, the vtubing scene/community is a cesspool of the mentally ill so your wish might just come true

>>8027537
Anon, you haven't answered any of my questions. You have only offered me cope instead. I see that you are simply using your bias instead of making "objective" statements to prove your point. Don't bother replying back

You’re all boring as shit especially Gura.

>>8027601
Thanks for your concession.

>>8026375
Your shit oshi barely cares to interact with anyone that isn’t amelia

>>8027430
Numbers will never be a good argument when the most popular music in most countries are utter trash and the actual big youtubers just pander to kids because of the algorythm. The average person simply doesn't have good taste, and not to shit on holoEN but numbers isn't an argument

>>8027706
Based

>>8027677
I answered your first question. Your second question is a bad question, because there's many things that make a vtuber good, many of which are subjective. There's plenty of non-Hololive vtubers who would have as many as if not more subs than the Hololive vtubers if they were in Hololive. That's the power of the brand. I haven't displayed any bias, although I'm sure if I named individuals you would accuse me of having one

>>8027750
So what metric do you use to measure a streamer quality that isn't you own shitty opinion?

>>8027739
We weren't arguing

>>8027984
I called you opinion subjective when you're trying to state the opposite. That's arguing.

>>8028408
I never stated my opinion

>>8028533
You must be over 18 to post here.

The new loli is cute so far

>>8027900
I wasn't even that anon, but how can you explain qualities that are completely subjective? I think a good streamer is funny, talkative, banters, has a lot of energy and has a lot of stories but all of those qualities are more or less subjective. Just to put an example Marine is an excellent streamer, even if she's not my oshi she has everything I think what makes a good streamer, on the other hand gura even though she can be funny, banter, tells a lot of stories and does great stuff with the chat, she has fucking negative energy, it pains me how off she sounds all the time, so in that sense she's not that good of a streamer, and to put another example mori is a godawful streamer, she's so bad that it turns to be a bit endearing but she's "objectively" a bad streamer compared to everyone else in hololive

>>8029905
The original anon said that the HoloEN girls are objectively bad as VTubers, so that's what the argument was about. He did not give an answer to support his claim, so his statements are worthless. You acknowledged that it is not possible to make a completely objective assessment about the quality of a VTuber, so I'd say that the argument is over at this point.

I'm sure some anon would agree with your opinions about your examples, but I disagree with your assessments of HoloEN. It comes down to your tastes in streamers, and the large amount of people watching each EN girl shows that they are successful VTubers that are recognized by a lot of people.

>>8031622
>The original anon said that the HoloEN girls are objectively bad as VTubers
No I didn't you fucking retard I said they weren't great

>>8031702
Fair point. I misremembered what you said, so my bad. Either way, you are done in this conversation, anon. I already told you that you need not reply anymore since you can't form an argument.

>>8032352
How good a streamer is lies between objectivity and subjectivity, it's not one or the other
Take any decent indie and put them into HoloEN and they'd get the same numbers as everyone else. Everyone in Hololive gets 100x the subs as anyone else regardless of how good they are.

>>8027102
>>8027746
oh geez, calm down. You guys sound angry.

I am not denying though but Gura but anything can happen.

>>8026142
She's raking in the numbers because she's the only EN that the viewers can safely say consistent. Timeslot consistency is a major factor for live viewership growth. You can't say the same for the other 4.