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ITT: We talk about the dark side of our favorite Vtuber

Gura has the belief of optimistic nihilism, where she believes that life is meaningless, there's no God and we're just monkeys on a small rock. Yet she believes that life can still be fun.

She has hinted this greatly during her valentine stream and other past streams. She also hates being alone but accepts this fate.

https://streamable.com/5xfiis

>> No.837070

I'm just here for the soft porn desu

>> No.837123

majority of people think the same including me. there isn't anything particularly interesting about it

>> No.837124

So she's a redditor?

>> No.837133

>>837042
Gura always felt fake af to me, I'm not surprised she has such a negative works view. Makes lying to our faces easier, but I don't care, I can take her at face value as a dumb shark cosplayer

>> No.837160

>>837124
Retard

>> No.837188

>>837042
>It doesn't matter, nothing in life matters
It doesn't matter
NONE OF THIS MATTERS

>> No.837229

honestly after the whole cinnamon thing i don't know how to feel about her

>> No.837294

gawr "sometimes i question if i actually have real emotions" gura

>> No.837355

>>837229
Explain

>> No.837359

>>837229
what did i miss now

>> No.837400

>>837042
>>837124
I remember a professor of mine in college brining this up. I legit can't name my great grandmother's name or her mother's name. I only vaguely have memories of her from when I was younger. So, unless you believe in an afterlife, she is correct. Although, even Nietzsche believed that art and asceticism were escapes from nihilism.

>> No.837454

>>837042
There's an age limit to browse 4chan isn't there?

>> No.837544

>>837042
Isn't that what Japanese all believe except for the few unironic Buddhists and Christians?

>> No.837552

>>837229
cinnamon thing?

>> No.837603
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Korone really likes gore stuff, she acts like it's a joke or something that doesn't matters too much, but she can watch extremly gorey things and she even laughs, she played a game where a man has to cut his own finger and has a lot of tools to do it and the first thing that she said is "I want to try all of them!" with a happy voice
She even said that she wants to watch "the human centipede" with her members

>> No.837654

I don't like being a concernfag, but I just wanna give her a big hug...

>> No.837711

Gura has not been the same since the murder-suicide..

>> No.837741

>>837454
>>837123
I'm atheist and saying "Nothing in life matters" is just a depressing way of thinking with life. That's not the majority of what people think about. People who are into that nihilism stuff are kinda off.

>> No.837785

>>837042
There's religions in the world that believe in the same thing and preach about how you should be a good person in this current life even though in the end nothing matters. It's not a "dark way of thinking" if you're not a retarded westerner. It's more common in an eastern mentality than you think.

>> No.837789

>>837741
I feel like saying "nothing in life matters" is open to interpretation
You either say it and believe that since nothing in life matters, there's no point in doing anything, which is pretty depressing
Or you say it and believe that since nothing in life matters, that's all the more reason to do stuff, because fuck it, if nothing matters you might as well try to make the most of it

>> No.837818

>>837042
I want to show Gura the wonders of outer space so she can have a new outlook on the future! unless the Columbia Disaster rrat is true

>> No.837854

>>837042
>this
>a dark mentality
Oh no the endless void, so scary. Are you 14 and just discovered what nihilism is?

>> No.837862

If it really doesn't matter then quit trying to drag others into your sad fucking existence. If I wanna drive cars really fast, make really fast software, or travel then let me because it doesn't matter to you.

>> No.837872

>>837789
>>837741
Value is subjective. Nothing objectively matters, yes, but that doesn't mean that literally nothing subjectively matters at all and to claim so at all is a performative contradiction.

>> No.837934

>that life is meaningless
It does have meaning but it's not the same for everyone.
>there's no God and we're just monkeys on a small rock
This is correct but it doesn't have to be a bad thing. You worded it cynically on purpose.
>Yet she believes that life can still be fun.
That's nice. I agree.
Don't see anything dark here, OP.

>> No.837940

we are born to die and live to coom

>> No.837970

talk about vtubers retards not philosophy

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>>837042
>where she believes that life is meaningless
In the big picture, yes, all life in the end will be wiped out in a grand event.
>there's no God and we're just monkeys on a small rock
This is true
>Yet she believes that life can still be fun.
Okay? What's dark about this? Do you think a entry level philosophy like this is spooky or something? Go take a college class and learn about shittier things like the mentality behind the necessity of sweatshop labor or environmental responsibility.

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838067

I hope she can eventually connect with people and form fulfilling relationships, I'm hoping I can eventually do the same too, but it's hard not to just give up and resign yourself to your isolation and loneliness.

>> No.838077

Gura hasn’t really been the same since she was raped on stream...

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>>837970
away!

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>>838077

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>>837603
I believe you. There was another stream she did with Shion where they talked about "sharing" Okayu since they both wanted her. They went on splitting up body parts for an equal share, and Korone explicitly said she wanted Okayu's kneecaps so she can eat soup with them everyday, all with the most cutesy smile and giggles.

>> No.838236

>>837042
something is off with her schedule & streaming nowadays
what do you think it is?
she's not enjoying them. the most recent stream which she enjoyed was the multi-game stream which she did on a sunday.

ever since then, she's been "off".

>> No.838242

>>837552
>>837355
>>837359
>>837229
not him but basically she got the wrong drink at one of their meetings, proceeded to pretend to throw up and then threw a fucking fit at the poor P.A. who was responsible for ordering and picking up the drinks. Came in the next day and dumped a bottle of cinnamon on the guys head and blew it in his face. He had to be brought away by the ambulance because he couldn't breathe

>> No.838300

>>837603
korone is a gore fetishist, it's obvious if you've been watching it for a while.
its not a "character", per se. she enjoys it.

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>>838175
so to add to the list shion
>raped marine and gaslit her into believing the reverse
>sold monoe the pot and then called gyari
>pretended to be a man on towa's stream
>allowed haachama to breech containment
>mugged a-chan
>mutilated Okayu
she CANNOT keep getting away with this

>> No.838313

>>838242
sounds like bullshit to me but thanks for clarifying

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>>838242
>vtubers
>p.a.
Nigga what

>> No.838463

>>838344
cover hire production assistants to order coffee and set up chairs and shit like any other company...

>> No.838521

>>838463
Only 2 of the girls live in Japan

>> No.838548

>>838344
You're underaged.

>> No.838638

>>838077
Explain

>> No.838664

>>837042
Optimistic nihilism is taking "fun things are fun" as a way of life, there's absolutely nothing dark about it.

>> No.838691

>>837042

Is this somehow a weird and special belief?

I also think life is just RNG and there is no intrinsic meaning, yet "it can still be fun". Just make your own meaning, be it self-improvement or whatever the fuck.

What's so grimdark about this? Feels more like the conclusion anyone with 2 braincells to rub together should arrive at.

>> No.838692

>>838242
it wasn't even that bad, the people they rented the space from for the meeting were the ones who called the ambulance, he was fine

>> No.838702

>>838638
nothing to explain i just raped her mid stream

>> No.838703

>>838242

Sauce or it didn't happen

>> No.838726

>>838236
She burned out, when she was her back then she wouldn't stream that much and if she did, she would normally drink and get wasted, now she have to act proper and in character in her streams, so she probably is tired of pretending, my guess is that she will start to get more bitchy and angry as time pass

>> No.838758

>>838692

How would any of this leak to the public? I call bullshit on this story.

>> No.838763

Nothing in life does matter to the universe as a whole. I don't care if there's a God, god, or gods. I'm going to live life the way I want to in the best of my ability. This should not be a controversial statement.

>> No.838800

>>838726

Whew, neither option sounds like a healthy solution. Get more frustrated and bitchy or get more depressed. I wonder what set those coping mechanisms into motion.

>> No.838803

So basically, OP is an underage retard.

>> No.838875

>>838803
all of us are retards

>> No.838913

>>838236
>>838726
>>838800
samefag

>> No.838948 [DELETED] 

>>838875
youre underage and havent experienced life yet if the idea of the black curtain at the end of life still scares you
Life is short, you should make the most of it you can and try to have fun along the way, regardless if you believe in god or not shouldn't affect this way of thinking

>> No.838983

>>837741
'nihilistic optimism' has optimism in the name for a reason

>> No.839011

>>838948
im not op i was just stating the obvious

>> No.839091

>>837818
it’s that her dad died in it right? thats why she’s always crying during moon songs

>> No.839138

>>838067
an irl meet up with Ame and hopefully others would probably cheer Gura and Ame up, their next few streams would be very high energy. I wish those two could at least move close to each other

>> No.839162

>>838521
All the girls get them even the indos

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>>837741
It's called being consistent. Let's think about it: nihilism means that nothing matters, then if that's true why is nothing mattering so significant for you? The truth is that most people cannot actually comprehend giving life a completely neutral value (think of 0) so when their importance meter goes under the minimal value (1) they loop back and go into negatives (-1) because if positive things don't exist then only the negative is left, even if that belief explicitly says they shouldn't give a fuck about bad things too.

>> No.839175

>>837042
Weak bait, nihilism is great because you make your own purpose in life.

>> No.839195

>>838726
she joined to have more friends and she’s slowly opening up to her chat she’s progressing not regressing

>> No.839246

>>839195
>opening up to her chat
Must feel weird opening up to a chaotic wall of nonsense.

>> No.839280

Everyone in this thread just read Albert Camus or something for fuck sake.

>> No.839323

Stoicism is the only good philosophy.

>> No.839366

>>839246
yeah I have no idea how she picks out random messages but somehow it always the most backseaty ones

>> No.839411

>>839091
So her father is either Rick Husband, William McCool, Michael Anderson or Ilan Ramon

>> No.839431

This thread just proves the majority of of people on this board are underage. I don't know how so many kids got here but most people outgrow nihilism when they turn 15

>> No.839470

>>839431
>>838803
>>838548
All me

>> No.839522

>>837042
>philosophy
cringe

>> No.839530

>>839470
You're an underageb& calling people underage because they realize that the planet literally does not care about what you do and ultimately what you do in life is your own choice? Good for you, dude.

>> No.839543

>>838726
>she will start to get more bitchy and angry as time pass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3lcIrO7MDs
she never attacked her fans like this, this is the first time she reacted like this imo

>> No.839575

>>838307
shion is a monkey!
t. baqua

>> No.839591

>>837042
You call that a dark side, I call that supreme basedness. Still, wake me up when a V-tuber quotes Max Stirner or something, then I'll get real excited.

>> No.839598

>>839543
I hope she does it more

>> No.839602

>>839543
Good hopefully she can weed out the sensitive people and kids and chat will clean up a bit

>> No.839642

>>839522
Philosophy is just politics without the intention of dividing people.

>> No.839658

>>839431
You clearly don't know shit about nihilism or any of it's variations

>> No.839666

>>837970
Every board is a /lithis/ board

>> No.839688

>>839543
I want her to get really violent and menhera like

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>>838242
you bastard. to think i racked my brain for a minute trying to remember "the cinnamon thing" to get hit by a fucking copypasta. here's your (You).

>> No.840060

>>837818
Mind elaborating on what's the Columbia Disaster rrat?

>> No.840164

>>840060
Gura's mother was Laurel Clark. One of the astronauts that died in the Space Shuttle Colombia incident.

>> No.840202

I just heard about operation Heavy Water, how is Gura holding up?

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who is the member with most probability of actually shooting or owning a gun?

>> No.840243

>>837042
>Gura has the belief of optimistic nihilism, where she believes that life is meaningless, there's no God and we're just monkeys on a small rock. Yet she believes that life can still be fun.
Can you prove otherwise? I think she has a clear understanding of life.
Life is shit, so try to have fun

>> No.840258

>>840164
Her Wikipedia page says she only had a son.

>> No.840270 [DELETED] 

>>837133
I always felt this vibe as well

>> No.840370

>>840233
Ame has admitted she owns: Glock 17, Glock 19, Bushmaster AR-15, Mossberg 500, Mossberg 970, Remington 870, Colt Python, Colt Anaconda, Ruger LCP, Smith & Wesson Ladysmith (her CC) A DPMS AR-10, A Beretta M9A2, a Colt 1911, a Llama 1911, a Zastava ZPAP a Zastava M57, a WSAR, a Ruger LCP, and a Ruger American.

>> No.840371

>49 posters
>88 replies
if we subtract the number of posters from the number of replies and then assume that just half of them are numberfagging, that puts us at around around 20 samefag posts.

>> No.840398

>>840258
I listed the astronauts with daughters above

>> No.840424

>>840370
>Mossberg 970
Meant 930

>> No.840438

>>840370
wife material

>> No.840550

>>840370
I require a source for claims of Detective Watson's arsenal.

>> No.840583

>>837741
I can't speak for others, but I personally see it more as life not having an inherent purpose and for the individual to do whatever it pleases with life.

>> No.840589

>>839543
it's not the first time, you fucking worthless clipfagging newfag

>> No.840612

>>837042
>the dark side of our favorite Vtuber
Nyanners wears a diaper and pees herself.

>> No.840621

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgE-M2mnPSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgE-M2mnPSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgE-M2mnPSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgE-M2mnPSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgE-M2mnPSY

>> No.840752

>>840550
My butt But a man can dream though. A man can dream.

>> No.840857

>>840621
Does that make sense?

>> No.840902

>>840612
Isn't that like just a thing women do? like you know...

>> No.841040

>>837042
imagine being a nihilist. I'd rather be a schizo retard who visits /x/ everyday than being a fucking nihilist.

>> No.841129

>>841040
There is nothing wrong with nihilism, now antinatalists on the other hand..

>> No.841148

>>839658
Okay 15 year old, tell me which philosophers supported nihilism that you've read

>> No.841156

>>841129
Dude, nihilism is horrible

>> No.841167

>>839530
>because they realize that the planet literally does not care about what you do
You're a retard if you expected a nonsentient rock to care about you

>> No.841174

>>841148
Dialogines

>> No.841180

>>841167
The planet's dyin', Cloud!

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>haachama

>> No.841193

>>837042
That's not that weird. No sane person believes in le magic man who lives in the sky.

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>>841193
>No sane person believes in le magic man who lives in the sky.

>> No.841243

>>841174
Not a nihilist and didn't write

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>>839543
Not that bad of a clipper though.

>> No.841329

>>837124
Yes and so is half of this board

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>>837042
>Optimistic nihilism
Obligatory

>> No.841367

>I believe this I believe that
Just bee yourself and don't treat philosophy as politics

>> No.841371

>>840233
https://files.catbox.moe/afdgxl.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/r0zbec.mp4

>> No.841383

>>839167
Yet saying nothing matters in life is rather bad. You can be atheist and still think things matter for the time you have on earth. Nihilism is like "Shit doesn't matter, so just have fun and do whatever you want", yet that itself has negatives.

>>841193
Atheism and Nihilism are two different animals, Atheist still believe that your life has MEANING, we just don't believe there's a God. Nihilism don't believe there's a meaning in life or anything. It's not a good mindset whenever you become depressed or lonely in my opinion.

Most nihilists are either really depressing or become pissed off and angry about life, I just don't think people should go with that belief.

I mean sure, there's some nihilists that view life can be fun but they still say that "Life is worthless and that's that".

>> No.841385

>>841167
Now expand that to other nonsentient things. The universe, for example, or concepts like time. What you doesn't effect anything that will happen in a million million years from now. So why kid yourself and say that it does. Just accept it, move on. Be the person you want to be. Want to be moral, kind, and good? Do it. Want to be a drug addled criminal? Go grab some smack and a knife. Want to preach the word of your god(s)? Get the good book and have at it. When you realize that life has no meaning and nothing matters it's shouldn't be fuel for 'Ooh woe is me!' it should be fuel for 'Its time to decide what I want out of this life.'

>> No.841421

>>841243
>Didn't write
Then you can't prove he wasn't a nihilist.

>> No.841422

>>841148
Martin Heidegger

>> No.841454

Gura watched this video, that is why. There is nothing more to it.
https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14

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>>841193

>> No.841482

>>841385
God and my mom and my oshii care about me

>> No.841487

>all this FUD
Never selling my sharkcoins

>> No.841499

>>841422
Heidegger was against nihilism, and so was Nietzsche before you bring him up.

>> No.841501

>>837042
>She also hates being alone but accepts this fate
she gets a shark wrangler every night anon

>> No.841504

>>839543
She acted like this multiple times. I think a more hostile one is the new year I think, where she said she took a little sip and chat goes "SHE IS DRUNK".

Not blaming her, it was really annoying so her reaction is understandable.

>> No.841503

>>841454
>Gura watches reddit pop science videos
lololol how will cunnybros ever recover

>> No.841531

>>841422
You can't be a Nazi and a nihilist

>> No.841546

>>841383
So what is the meaning of life then? Because at the end of the day it's just passing the time until you die.

>> No.841548

>>839543
there are people in her chat who deserve a reprimand a thousand times stronger than that lol

>> No.841565

>>841482
Good! I'm glad to hear you have some goodness in your life! I hope they bring you joy and brightness!

>> No.841591

>>841565
I just used my mom for rhetorical purposes,but at least I have God and my oshii

>> No.841623

>>841548
She has rules that she has to follow or she gets in trouble, and one of those rules is definitely don't go off too hard on chat.

>> No.841632

>>841454
Of course she did

>> No.841642

>>841623
do you happen to have a transcript of her discussing this

>> No.841656

>>841503
Chumbuds are already redditors and kids, so...

>> No.841691

>>839543
you call this going off?
Her new years stream started with her wanting to ban everyone who called her drunk

this is peanuts my dude, PEANUTS

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>>841642

>> No.841762

>>837042
>imagine thinking this
>imagine not taking the Christpill
>imagining not acknowledging the divinity of God and his Son, Jesus Christ

>> No.841856

>>837042
“uh guys? this anime girl has totally normal human thoughts that anyone beyond the age of 12 would have. I thought she was supposed to be an eternally optimistic anime? Oh well here’s some porn of her I drew”

>> No.841920

>>841856
Gura is a real human bean

>> No.841988

>>837042
>eats mcdonalds everyday
>stays inside all day
>unable to experiment with her career
>unable to explore socially due to anxiety and low skills
>fundamentally stuck
gee i wonder why shes sad....

>> No.842022

>>841546
It's whatever you choose it to be.

Watching your favorite Vtuber? That's the meaning of life.

Getting a job and doing your reps to superchat your oshi? That's the meaning of life.

Harassing the shit out of Coco because you're a subhuman living in an overpopulated authoritarian hellhole and have to cope with it by lashing out? That's the meaning of life.

Doxxing the previous shithead and making him lose his job over running a spambot out of his company's IT network? That's the meaning of life.

The meaning of life isn't universal. It is what (You) choose it to be.

>> No.842188

>>841383
>saying nothing matters in life is rather bad
I think you're mixing ideas.
"Life is worthless and that's that" doesn't necessarily mean anything negative, because an inherently neutral phenomenon such as life cannot be accurately judged as good or bad. In the end, it's a tool where it's importance resides in what you do with it.
I like to think of it as a minecraft world, there's no objective, because what matters isn't the end but the journey.
>Most nihilists are either really depressing or become pissed off and angry about life, I just don't think people should go with that belief.
People can be happy and become sad in an instant, there's nothing deterministic about the information you have at hand or the way you think, but what you decide to do about it.

>> No.842206

>>841341
this is the most retarded pseudo-intellectual /pol/ rant I've read all day. what an absolute moron.

>> No.842240

>>842206
Oh yes the blue board /pol/

>> No.842262

>>842206
Sorry your entire life is built on pseudo-slavery.

>> No.842270

>>842240
Are we now denying that /pol/tards infest more boards than just /pol/? Not that it matters since whoever wrote it is too underage to be allowed to post here.

>> No.842339

>>842262
If you took an advice from that post seriously you wouldn't even be here retard

>> No.842345

>>842240
Not him but, in case you've never left your niche board or general, there's been an infestation of /pol/tards in the entire site trying to shoehorn politics into every thread with the intention of starting a discussion so they can dump their tinfoil conspiracies.

>> No.842395

>>842270
>>842345
It's almost like people post on more than one board and people that post on the largest board on 4chan make up a sizable portion of the userbase

>> No.842416

>>841988
>>unable to experiment with her career
she only needs to take a look at her coworkers to see that she can experiment as much as she wants
the others are probably true

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What doth life?

>> No.842446

She is experimenting with both the cooking streams and as soon as her ASMR mic arrives ASMR.

>> No.842457

>>841751
https://youtu.be/chBRFpaViVA?t=13070

>> No.842477

>>842262
>>842339
For some reason anons think being perpetually depressed and consumed by self-loathing and angst towards the world makes them an intellectual. It doesn't, it just makes you mentally ill. Take your meds and rejoin society whenever you feel like. Or don't, no one cares honestly.
>>842395
Considering /pol/'s whole identity is being angry at society and misguidedly redirecting that anger towards anything they don't understand like philosophy and academia as a whole, it seems appropriate to call that post /pol/shit regardless of whether it was actually posted on /pol/.

>> No.842534

>>842395
You're right, hopefully they fuck off and stay contained in their cesspool board.

>> No.842608

>>837042
This is literally the definition of based and redpilled what do you mean

How much longer are you going to delude yourself that you, your life and humanity as a whole matter?

>> No.842643

>>837042
>reddit spacing
being depressed doesn't automatically mean she's a nihilistic atheist

>> No.842697

>>842643
This. Gura is definitely a Christian, as a gun-toting conservative southerner

>> No.842780

>>837741
The flip side of "nothing objectively matters" is that you are the one that gets to decide what matters in your life.

There is no third party dictating what should actually matter for you. The world is your oyster. Do what you've always wanted to do.

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842838

she's old

>> No.842935

>>842477
There's nothing wrong with acknowledging society is fucked in many ways. A better world wouldn't have Cover scrambling for permissions.

>> No.843031

>>842697
No she really isn't, but keep your schizo delusions about her if you want

>> No.843132

>>839543
> "Sounds like you've never been to a concentration camp!"

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>>842935
That's true but that has nothing to do with philosophy so it seems ridiculous that anons blame the world's problems on a belief system they've never bothered to learn like Nihilism or Marxism or Postmodernism or whatever retards keep repeating on these boards. If you wanna get into why Cover is being fucked by permissions and why Twitch and Youtube seemingly are entirely managed by AI's that flag literally everything blame the copyright system developed by corporate lobbyists and passed by Democrats and Republicans in congress to enrich themselves. Blame people on reddit and twitter who think posting fanart is stealing from the artist. Blame the "content creators" on Twitter and Pixiv and Fanbox and Patreon who get autistic about people reposting their art or music or other content because they think the internet should work on a "royalties" system like pre-internet media did.
Pretty much all of this implicates people that are too rich for anyone who subscribes to /pol/'s belief system to criticize because they all lean either heavily libertarian or heavily dominionist/neo-con where the rich can do no wrong. They'll just blame twitter snowflakes and sjw's and cancel culture for Youtube's algorithm that was designed after they lost lawsuits against multinational corporations owned by the same like 5 ultra-rich people.

>> No.843387

>>842416
Take a look at Aqua who can't hold a conversation. She needs someone like senchou to initiate a conversation or to suggest a collab else it wont even happen. im assuming the same is for gura. Ina or kiara are the ones usually doing a whole gen collab. Kiara is extraverted so she can easily ask people to collab. Ina is already a professional in the world, and knows how to coordinate. Calli on the other hand, as stated by Ollie, is extremely shy, and cannot initiate conversations despite having a mental list of holos to collab with. This makes it clear that having poor social skills affects them in their career.

>> No.843453

>>843246
based and truthed

>> No.843454

>>841371
Who does Gura shoot?

>> No.843521

>>843454
keep asking personal questions and it'll be you

>> No.843611 [DELETED] 

>>842697
> she lives in CA

>> No.843688

I saw Gawr Gura at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told her how cool it was to meet her in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother her and ask her for photos or anything.
She said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in her hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Ma'am, you need to pay for those first.” At first she kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, she stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, she kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>> No.843723

>>843688
>>>/reddit/

>> No.843845

>>838692
>it wasn't even that bad
How wasn't it when she started using racial slurs?

>> No.843850

>>843246
It's funny how you guys all hate /pol/ when you complain about the exact same things as /pol/ while lamenting that the strawman in your head disagrees with you

>> No.843972

>>837042
All forms of Nihilism are garbage, even optimistic nihilism is Garbage, it's only an appealing philosophy for people that want way more freedom than any person should have or that are extremely depressed

>> No.844075

>>839431
This is correct, but even then a lot of 20-30 year olds like to act like 15 year olds anyway so their outgrowing phase it's severely slow-down

>> No.844157

>>843972
Existentialism of Albert Camus type is better

>> No.844156

>>841421
Then why the fuck he was mention as an example of a Nihilist?

>> No.844222

>>840612

p-proof?

>> No.844570

>>843688
She just keeps getting better and better

>> No.844727

>>837400
Giving meaning to your life doesn't have to involve history remembering you. In fact it's one of the more retarded aspirations considering it literally does nothing for you while you're alive.
Furthermore, this positive nihilism is self defeating. People might say that nothing matters, but everyday they act out something different. Go to their job, do hobbies, have a set of moral rules, get upset over failure, are happy when they succeed, etc etc. This is meaningful, not nihilistic. You don't need a deity to exist for there to be meaning in your life.

>> No.846771

>>843850
Eh it's not really comparable at all. /pol/tards blame all their problems on Jews and women, you can't reason with them. Even if they coincidentally share the belief that Capitalism is broken or that America is an oligarchy it's only to push their braindead conspiracy theories that the Jewish Illuminati are destroying the world.
You get much more reasonable discussion on boards that are actually dedicated to technology and internet media like this one, where anons are willing to confront the reality that bad politics directly harms vtubers or whatever other hobbies they have. /pol/ in comparison is just Hitler youth LARPers, they don't have any actual beliefs or ideals and any real world effects of politics is irrelevant to them.

>> No.847005

>>846771
I was actually talking about issues with Melody, that the ongoing witch hunt for sex workers disguised as a witch hunt for pedophiles and human traffickers got her kicked off of Pornhub and I fear it's just a matter of time before Twitch and even CB start shutting her down on some flimsy pretense.

>> No.847156

>>847005
Supposedly CB added some policy specifically for her that requires her to have a separate stream for a CB mod showing her actual body to verify she's an adult. Honestly it's really fucked up and only a matter of time until all vtuber sexworkers are banned. It seems like only a matter of time until vtubers as a whole are kicked off every platform, starting with the lolitubers and working up to ASMR/lewd tubers like Melody and Choco, until they're all branded as sex content and banned entirely. If I were Cover I'd at least start looking into a new platform independent of Youtube, or even some collaborative project with Nijisanji and the other large agencies to make one specifically for vtubers.

>> No.847388

>>847156
I've advocated for a backup platform too, but everyone tells me that the costs of running a server have very strong economies of scale, and people spend so much of their time on platforms like Twitch and YT that they don't think they have a chance elsewhere, or that it wouldn't be worth the expense. I personally disagree, considering how much revenue can be lost from downtime, but it does, I think, sadly demonstrate how centralized the internet has become, that these conglomerates have a near-monopoly on rack space and eyeballs. Indie sites like ours are increasingly rare, and really we're only still at it because we've had the incredibly good fortune to fall in the gap between "good enough to get bought out by a tycoon" and "bad enough that no web host, registrar, or ISP let you within 500 feet of their operations."

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>>837603
You think she watches the punching bag when Okayu isn't looking?

>> No.847573

>>843688
This sort of thing would only be done by Hideo Kojima or Amelia Watson

>> No.847594

>>847388
The biggest problem for forming a competitor to Youtube or Twitch is that those sites make the majority of their money through advertisers because they're massive data farms on human behavioral habits. If you created one for vtubers it'd make pretty much no money. Even superchats and memberships wouldn't be able to cover the server and bandwidth costs and no advertisers will touch a platform made specifically to market anime lolis and glorified sex workers.

>> No.847785

>>839591
Go back. Go all the way back.

>> No.848529

>>847594
Well I would hope that the vtuber companies would be able to work together on the project to advertisers wouldn't see it as just that, but advertising revenue for content publishers has declined majorly: https://www.progressivepolicy.org/issues/regulatory-reform/the-declining-price-of-advertising-policy-implications-2/

I'll have to run some numbers to compare that price decline with hosting price declines.

>> No.849074

>>837603
Yeah, she's fucking awesome.

>> No.849388

>>847496
DEEP RRAT: Korone is the punching bag

>> No.850966

>>837042
If you must know the reasoning behind this mentally is that in a past life Gura was in love but her lover was cut into a million pieces and cast into the void.

Now the pieces of Guras lover return to her in the form of a thousand viewers. Always present but distant and no longer whole.

Truly a bittter sweet existence

>> No.851128

>>843845
>Bad
You meant to type BASED, right?

>> No.851253

>>837042
>where she believes that life is meaningless, there's no God and we're just monkeys on a small rock. Yet she believes that life can still be fun.
That's true though. Other than "leave the world marginally better than you were brought into" what other duties do you have other than to enjoy it?

>> No.851266

>>850966
I want whatever you're smoking.

>> No.851330

Why does Gura hate Haachama so much? Why does she hate the japanese in general? Is it because of the among us collab? Because of haachama mogging Gura in minecraft? Is it because she's just racist? I mean she doesn't even try to communicate properly with the JP members during their among us collab.

>> No.851541

>>842838
well she is 93.

>> No.852770

>>837042
Is Gura the one most likely to end it?

>> No.852866

>rrat turned philosophical debate on nihilism
lmao why, most of it isn't even about the shark

>> No.852893

>>852770
In EN, maybe, but I think hololive has a few girls that could be pushed over that edge... Yagoo likes to hire broken girls after all

>> No.852999

>>852893
Who do you think will jump ship first at jp? Mel?

>> No.853061

>>852999
Mel is at least trying. Choco doesn't seem to give a shit about Hololive at all besides as a stepping stone to interact with other vtubers.

>> No.853122

OK, there's no way that cinnamon thing or the astromom are true since there's very little info on Guwa outside of her playing with toys and getting shitfaced even nowadays (early gura streams)

>> No.853214

>>853122
Most of the doxinfo around Gura are fake, to no one's surprise.

>> No.853893

>>842477
>Considering /pol/'s whole identity
>>842534
>You're right, hopefully they fuck off and stay contained in their cesspool board.

you really dont get it, do you?
4ch IS /pol/ because liberal ideas cant survive here since there is little censorship, only ideas which are battle tested survive & that is conservative ideals.

liberal ideas cant survive open ended free speech discussion. I know you're new, but I'm just reminding you, you stick out like a sore thumb when you complain about /pol/.

>> No.853922

>>853893
tourist-chama...your meds...

>> No.853997

>>853122
of course not, its gura's fanbase making ridiculous stuff & conflating it with actual dox info to make you disregard it.
see for example -> >>853214

that conflation, you see, its on purpose.

>> No.854032

>>846771
>Capitalism is broken
>as he types on merits from capitalism.
hilarious

>> No.854047

>>842206
Thats from /lit/. Also he's talking about Marx favourably so it's not a /pol/ack.

>> No.854065

>>854032
bruh the internet was developed by the military and primarily used by publicly-funded universities before corporations took over in the 90's.

>> No.854139 [DELETED] 

>>843246
>rich can do no wrong
>Blame people on reddit and twitter who think posting fanart is stealing from the artist
interesting contradiction of your self in the same paragraph

why do commies never seem to be able to be consistent?
you cant say "fanart is not stealing" & then say "rich people are rich by chance/greed"

remember, the govt is not at fault or to blame for your shit life, its your bad decisions. better accept it before you try to cope by using words like "post modernist" & "marxism"

>>854065
>publicly-funded universities
lol

>corporations took over in the 90's.
lol

why is it that socialists cant grasp human nature & the threads behind these universities run by corps?

just look at BLM & anti-white ideology in US universities funded by corps/govt to teach it specifically.

>> No.854150

>>854139
go back

>> No.854164

>>854150
quick question, how many genders are there?

>> No.854443

>>854164
2. Now please return to where you came from.

>> No.854636

>>854443
to /vt/?
I've already explained it to you, 4ch IS /pol/
hope you understand this site better, cheers

>> No.855665

>>850966
...only to be reassembled on the day of T h e F i n a l Y a b. Fractious though they may be, their power still waxes strong. Indeed, when the final hour is upon us they will rise, body reformed and unbroken as their love for her has always been.

In this I say to you, we will not be defeated! Victory! To preserve her smile, resplendent like the rising sun!

>> No.857904

>>854636
you polfags are delusional, go back to your containment and never leave

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She was much better off being Senzawa, she could be as retarded as she wanted, with no repercussions. The only thing, that shit didnt pay.

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