/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>853526
> too mentally stable to understand
yah you have the gist of it

>>853526
it's the clinical depression, op

>>853526
You have to have no social life to get to this point.

>>853554
I hope I didn't force too much reality on people

>>853572
No the worst part is we are well aware of our situation.

>>853577
That doesn't make any sense why would you stay in a situation that is just harming you?

>>853566
social life is mostly just a choice you forced this situation on yourself

>>853526
>>853591
Here's how I see it
I think it's just easier to say that you love your oshi or that she's your waifu or whatever or pretend you're in love rather than just saying you just really enjoy their content and that they bring you joy
Like obviously there's no chance of anyone actually being with their oshi, it really is just like having a waifu at the end of the day, but a little more special because there's some level of interactivity
And as long as you're aware of this in the back of your mind, and as long as you're not actively doing any harm to yourself and especially not to others, does it really matter?
I'm well aware that nothing fucking matters and that I'm lonely, but this helps me deal, and I have something to look forward to; that's really all there is to it

>>853591
While it's definitely not healthy it's hard to say if it's harmful or not. With covid a lot of people legit cannot go out and meet people, if a crush on a vtuber brings them some happiness until this shit is all over is it really that bad?

>>853591
Because thats all i had

>>853526
You fall in love with the concept of someone, it happens to a lot more people than you[d expect, even people who are real. There are plenty of divorces that happen because one of the two "wake up" and realize that the ideal isn't reality.

>>853566
I have no social life besides shitposting here and still haven't fallen for any vtuber, I like to think I'm hyperdepressed but I still enjoy watching anime and playing vidya so I don't know.

>>853526
Isn't there a bit of a difference between being "in love" with them, like you fantasize about having a zillion babies and whatever, and just caring about them as you would any other entertainer or human bean? I think there is anyway.

>>853690
I suggest using the happiness they give you to do your reps to prepare yourself to get yourself an actual relationship (if thats what you want).

I feel as if I'm beyond hope anyway, and I can't even fucking go out and socialize even if I wanted to.
There was a time when I could and actually fucking did, and now I've just been stuck at home for almost a year now.
This is all I have now.

>>853782
me too man, I think the people who fall in love with them are minds that aren't meant for solitude or haven't been enlightened.

>>853832
Maybe since I don't want to have a relationship is why I'm not loser enough to fantasize about having a virtual gf. I mean maybe all these lonely people are people from the quarantine and not actual solitude lovers.

>it's easier to be in love with someone you will never have a chance and use that as an excuse to be comfortable with my own situation instead of actually making the effort to reach out for them
Sasuga /vt/. Life imitates art.

I have fallen in love with the idea of being in love. I think i have so much love to give, but have been unsuccessful when it comes to trying to date anyone. At least with my oshi, I can pretend their “I love you”s are for me and take some sort of deluded comfort in that, but I still feel painfully lonely at times when I remind myself that I’ll never actually be with anyone.

>>853526
>I just have one question how can you like someone you've never met, never will meet, and never will like you?
First time getting into idols eh?

>>854003
Pretty much the same for me
It's not a good feeling to dwell on, even if it's horribly true

>>853526
The person I'm actually in love with will never be in love with me. So to deal with the loneliness that this causes, I get really into vtubers.

>>853649
It's MY depression and I choose the coping mechanism

>>853526
I'm in love with the idea of them. Just the idea that there exists a person like my oshi gets me up to run and try to be better for them

>>854063
Never know what the future holds. I'm sure someone is prototyping the first vTuber JOI

>>854336
It’s pretty sad that I’m actually looking forward to that

People are just lonely. What's not to understand?

>>853526
At least for me, it's because I'm as starved for giving affection as I am for receiving it. Maybe even more so. To let oneself get swept away by a character, to fall totally and shamelessly in love with something that doesn't exist provides some degree of comfort for this. I don't care much that they don't and won't ever know me, I just need a "person" to be proud of and shower with praise because it makes me feel a little bit less empty and alone. Life for me is just a long process of biding my time until I'm dead so fucking it why not.

I have been in love and in a relationship. In some ways the whole parasocial shit is easier. Less commitment. Less mess. You have this “perfect” girl you can just passively enjoy without putting in the hard and soul crushing parts of a relationship. You can put in an effort but it’s never going to be more than what you’re willing to put in. You don’t need to force yourself out of your comfort zone lest you fear losing her. Sure you’ll get some of that loneliness and dependency if she ever stops streaming but up to that point you always have the option to walk away from your chuba of choice if you want to. No messy break up. No hurt feelings.

>be me
>5 years a hikki
>finally starting to get over it, making big progress
>that was a year ago
>coroma virums eggs dee
>deeper in hikki hole than ever before after a year of quarantine
>leaving my room now is as hard as leaving my house was a couple years ago
Parasocial relationships are the only warmth in my life. I've given up. If you don't understand it means you're probably doing something right.

>>853526
>I'm too mentally stable to understand
Funniest thing I've read all week

>>853526
I really admire those kinds of people because I don’t think I’ve ever actually had that kind of emotional attachment to someone, real or fictional, ever in my life.

It’s setting in really hard tonight, bros.

>>853591
I broke away from it last summer and I'm not sure it's an improvement.
Before I was a schizo in love, now I'm a broken man.

i'm a 32 year old autist kissless handholdless virgin, i've been a neet for a decade, probably unemployable, the west is collapsing anwyay, lockdown meme virus means there's no reason to leave the house. even if i lucked into a job and a relationship it would be entirely predicated on my value as a unit of economic productivity. might as well just let myself sink into the abyss and fall for a cute anime girl on youtube. her voice, her relaxed manner, her 80 iq, her comfy minecraft and zatsudan streams, these are the things i wake up for. i sit in my chinkshit gaming chair, swaddled in blankets and propped up by a couple of pillows, my electric heater under my desk and just sit borderline comatose for however many hours she decides to stream. or perhaps i just lie in bed with my phone, a hot water bottle under the quilt and overthrow. this way achieves maximum comfort but i feel slight disgust at watching on a phone. then i spend the rest of my time in a desperate scramble to improve my japanese to a point where i can have close to full comprehension of what she is saying before she retires. it might be futile but i will pursue this goal no matter what. and when the day comes that she retires, well, i can just find someone else. with each day that passes, the vtuber world becomes ever more saturated.

>>853591
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, and for many, to Gosling a virtual girl from afar IS the least harmful option.

>>854336
There's already tons of ero vTubers out there in Japan, and Melody exists here in clapistan. They make big cash making "story ASMRs" which are basically just JOIs narrated in a husky voice.

>>854336
ive seen some on youtube

>>859458
this has to be pasta

>>853526
There is self-awareness and the lack thereof.

>>853526
Everyone I have ever met rejects me, better to keep the distance. I know on a cognitive level that she'll never love me back, but neither will any real woman, at least I can still watch my oshi no matter what.

Love is overrated, it don't need kiss, sex, or interaction to feel in love with the other.
My oshi make me happy everyday and in exchange, I want to make her happy. it simple as that.
I listen to her 24/24, I also understand I will never able touch her. But what the point, if your oshi make you happy now, why longing for more and end up meltdown when everything shattered.

I'm lonely is pretty much the gist of it. I have good friends but none of them are girls so it gets to you after while. Come along a Vtuber that makes you laugh and have a somewhat intimate relationship with it's hard not to fall in love when you've been starved romantic interaction for most of your life. Ultimately I know it's not healthy and it would probably better not have these feelings for someone that constantly puts up a streaming facade, I try to make the best of it. I try to improve myself and branch out to different hobbies on the off chance I do ever get to meet my oshi. If that never happens that's fine. Maybe one day I can meet a girl that makes me laugh and clicks with me as much as my oshi does. and hopefully with the skills I'm learning and improvement I'm doing for my oshi right now, hopefully she won't laugh straight at my face when i try to ask her out.

>>853554
Fuck you faggot I'm not depressed I'm schizophrenic

yeah it's weird, i get when we're just saying tame shit like "i love her so much bros" but for example, the otherday i was in a kiara thread and an anon posted how kiara had mentioned she had a rat problem in her apartment and then like 5 anons wrote massive, descriptive paragraphs about how much they wished they could have been the rat in order to see her naked and crawl into her vag at night among other things
the sheer length of the replies is what made it very disturbing

Its just a coping mechanism for depression. I don't have much reason to get out of bed in the morning. I'm in uni right now, but due to covid its nothing but staring at a screen for 10 hours straight.
I have a good number of friends that I talk to regularly. But I've never really been in a relationship. I could care less about sex at this point, you can look up whatever porn you want online and jerk off to it. People in relationships underestimate just how much the small moments matter. I just want a girlfriend I can cherish, a partner to watch tv with or something. Watching an oshi play video games while making cute noises is a weak supplement for that.

For me...I would say a large part iz social isolation, eg I haven't seen irl friends in 11 months now. I am cognizant enough to see if I'm falling for one of these vtubers but boy is it tough. With hololive, it's easy to separate. There's a language barrier and if there isn't then there's no *real* interactivity.

But with these smaller <50 viewer channels it's completely different. There's no language barrier so I can chat back and forth with them. If im a regular theyll notice that and will even notice if a regular happens to be gone. If they have a discord I can interact with them even further. Hell, just the a few nights ago I could've played among us with one streamer and other fans if I wanted. And there was another imploring me specifically to join their discord

For these indies the lines between what makes a stranger or not really blur. It's not just watching this or that girl but actually talking to one, actually getting to know one.
You really don't know how it hits different till it hits. You ask one of these indie watchers what it feels like to hear someone genuinely sound like they're glad you're there.
It's intoxicating.