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What is /asp/?

A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P
List of Assets and other resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

NEW AUDITIONS:
PHASE CONNECT GEN 2 NOW OPEN
>site
https://phase-connect.com/auditions/
>form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSduL0o4NY8weiiZTp3Teyn73z_Jcf-xv4fabqm1bkVGUmx5wQ/viewform

Prism Project Generation 4 (deadline 9/20)
https://www.prismproject.jp/audition
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc5-p6bY-9XgTxAywu9K8VgQ3IHKP9zxYzkuxTP2SoA6iZRtQ/viewform

Phase Connect Generation 2 (deadline 10/31)
https://phase-connect.com/auditions/
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSduL0o4NY8weiiZTp3Teyn73z_Jcf-xv4fabqm1bkVGUmx5wQ/viewform

Cyberlive Generation 2 (deadline 9/17)
https://www.cyberlivecorp.com/audition
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf3NFRzPsh21EbmZOoDNms595bSPTuFrCb_nseuyYdwr79KyQ/viewform

VShojo (deadline 9/30)
https://www.reddit.com/r/VShojo/comments/p894j7/announcement_auditions_for_vshojo_start/?context=3
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegQKgJGaKAu56-x09gr_VhMiaDSGwCRBTvovuP0nZtTaQtxQ/viewform

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet.

Previous Thread: >>8937215

>> No.9123475

everytime I see this thread in catalog i read it as asperger general

>> No.9124763

>>9123475
Same thing really

>> No.9126682

>>9123475
In my country ASP stands for an art school, akademia sztuk pięknych and i think of it every time

>> No.9127020

>>9123475
Pretty sure that's the joke, son.

>> No.9127716

How important do you guys think it is having a Live2D versus a good looking 3D model?
Looking to start before the year ends and considering I have prior experience in 3D modelling I feel like it would give me more creative freedom in terms of outfits/props/accessories/etc along with hand/full body tracking but I have heard of people preferring the look of Live2D regardless. Any thoughts?

>> No.9127946

>>9127716
there are well known 3d model vtubers
if you can make it very aesthetically pleasing its going to be pretty much great, and its incredibly cost-effective
you can start streaming and make money and then get a Live2d, and you can stream with both models
possibilities are endless

>> No.9128083

>>9127716
3D modeling has more potential, but it's much easier to do a shitty 3D than it is to create a decent 2D model. if you've got the chops for it, a 3D model is more versatile since you can do extra stuff with it like importing MikuMikuDance moves, tiktok trends and stuff like that

>> No.9128286

>>9127716

Most of the top ENs are using 3D models, the issue is that a good 3D model is a lot harder to make or buy than a good Live2D one. I can find dozens of good quality Live2D artists are various price ranged with little to no effort but finding 3D ones of equivalent quality by someone who's actually even available to begin with is hard. The shortage of 3D modelers is so bad that any time the larger ones (Yoolies, JJinomu, or Artgun) open, they're immediately swamped with hundreds of requests that continue even after they close.

>> No.9128444

>>9123315
are posters here /asp/ies?

>> No.9128682

>>9128444
That depends if you mean that as people who post here or people who are in the Discord.

>> No.9134573

Making a game interesting when nothing interesting is happening and chat is quiet is so fucking diffult

>> No.9134688

>>9134573
Just talk about whatever, you don't have to talk to only about what you're playing

>> No.9134855

>>9134573
Mastering the art of talking about nothing is a big part of doing your stream reps is so important.

>> No.9134890

>>9134855
of why*
I accidentally a word

>> No.9135036

>>9134573
sometimes you're just not gonna be able to make a segment of the game interesting. that's when you pull out a mini-zatsudan and just talk about a separate topic for a couple of minutes until there is some development in the game you can react to. otherwise, pull out another zatsudan topic and repeat.

>> No.9136464

>>9128286
My mama has done some really good stuff in vroid but I'm not sure if they'd be willing to make me a 3D model for VRchat, because they have a vroid one of my model for their clothes designs but I'm not sure if I can request to use that one for future stuff. I still think Ironmouse and Nyanners got scammed with their 3d models. Absolutely unsightly.

>> No.9138218

is being a male kemonomim cringe

>> No.9138757

>>9138218
Yes do it

>> No.9139241

>>9138218
What animal? You'd better satisfy my specific brand of autism and actually share some traits with the species. Generic catgirl (boy) #406 at least better purr on occasion.

>> No.9139889

Would a /g/ chuuba have any chance?

>> No.9139939

>>9139889
look and see if there are any traditional webcam streamers who do it. if there are, then yes. if no, it's possible but will be a lot harder since you have to carve that path out yourself

>> No.9142344

>>9139889

Probably not speaking from experience

Software and Game Development did just pop up as a new category though

>> No.9143490

>>9128682
pretty sure anyone that has posted here about starting up as a vtuber is considered as one, yes

>> No.9143998

>>9138218
Just dont be a catboy we've got too many of those

>> No.9144518

>>9138757
sick. thanks anon
>>9139241
probably a bear, maybe a cow or goat. i don't want to step on charlottexbear's toes (or anyone else), but there are only so many animals out there. i don't plan on just being a human with ears. thought about going dogboy since i can bark pretty well, but i don't know if i'm high-energy enough for that.
>>9143998
don't worry, didn't plan on it. thank you!

>> No.9144672

>>9134573
like these anons said
>>9134688
>>9134855
do your zatsudan reps. you don't have to be talking about just your game. i talk about an insane amount of shit when im playing a game i feel might be otherwise boring people might think im schizo, but it keeps the chat and my mouth moving. this is an invaluable skill as a streamer/vtuber. chat will be dead until you get some regulars to get your feet off the ground, but nobody is going to wanna stick around a streamer who can't do this on their own. most of your views will be lurkers, but why would i watch a streamer who is just playing a game and not talking when i can just do that myself and get the same experience?

>Have you played this game before?
Explain what you're doing differently from the last time you played. Talk about pieces of the series lore that interest you.
>Does chat know this game?
Ask for their favorite bits of the lore that doesn't spoil. If it's a game in a series (like TES, etc) ask them their favorite and why. Don't wait for a response cause you'll create dead air, while they're typing explain your favorite in detail. If you get some responses you can start reading from the chat and ask them more questions.
>Never played the game before?
Start speculating about story outcomes. Get really schizo with this one, make up some deranged improbable outcomes that might fit the story, or just what you wanna happen. Talk about characters you're interacting with.
>Don't wanna talk about the game/nothing to talk about in the game?
Time to get creative. If you're leaning hard into a kayfabe, take real life events and spin them into your narrative so you have something to spitball with. If you're not playing a persona then just talk about your life. I talk a lot about random things that I am interested in, or things I plan on doing or what I did that day. I often talk about my university homework cause I'm in a mildly interesting degree field.


Sorry for manager larp but, honestly, make some shit up. Being a vtuber is all about improv. If you can't do that then you're going to have an extremely difficult time.

>> No.9144883

>>9144672
I see this a lot with standard content creators, too. I used to watch a lot of Sims speedbuilds; what kept me interested wasn't the architectural choices being made, but the creators' commentary or the stories they were telling. Being able to make something out of nothing is one of the most important skills for any streamer, in my opinion.
Take this with a grain of salt, though. I'm no expert.

>> No.9144936

>>9144518
>maybe a cow
Are you chad enough to be the bullman? Because that would probably go stupidly well.

>> No.9145919

>>9144936
not sure. i don't think i've got the... powerful presence that most would expect of a matador-y bull, but i could probably go for something a little more relaxed.
unless i'm reading you wrong and you're talking about a minotaur or something, which would be fun as hell.

>> No.9153049

bump

>> No.9153719

chuubas please put some effort into your speech and do some amount of voice acting. don't just sound like another 20 something nerd

>> No.9154293

>>9153719
Could you provide some good/bad examples? I’m curious.

>> No.9156008

I'm having trouble structuring my audition tape. Anyone have some pointers?

>> No.9156284

>>9156008
Which company?

>> No.9156358

>>9156008
It’s kind of like your resume, isn’t it? Introduce yourself, your qualifications, and provide proof you can do what you say you can.
Good luck, anon!

>> No.9156418

>>9156358
Never really did a video resume before but.. i guess you're right

>> No.9157816

Gonna try streaming for the first time in my life... soon. Probably will post here to embarrass myself so you guys better watch it.

>> No.9158086

aspie sleepin

>> No.9158230

>>9156008
short intro and put ur best talents or skills first, most videos arent watched past 1-2 minutes so u need to grab them immediately

>> No.9159363

>>9127716
There's a new trend for 3D models on twitch is having chat integration which allows you to throw shit at them. Chibidoki has one and it's hilarious watch people throw stuff at her. It's basically another avenue of people donating to you and marks one of the biggest new differentiator for normal streamers and 3D vtubers.
Do start doing some png tubing before the year ends to get that experience though.

>> No.9159696

>>9153719
I'd rather watch someone being genuine and using their real voice instead of someone playing a fake role with a made up cutesy or radio tier voice.
Same as with >>9144672
>Don't wait for a response cause you'll create dead air

All the streamers I watch are the kind of people that can be quiet for 30+ seconds and then actually say something interesting or genuinely funny instead of just zoomer adhd babble and fake overreactions.

It depends fully on what sort of audience you are trying to cater to. The only thing that matters in streaming is being entertaining.
Your vtuber model, ebin bgm, heckin fancy overlays and scene transitions does not matter unless you yourself are entertaining.
Its something people here constantly cope and try to use as a crutch and as a reason to procrastinate.

>> No.9160090

>>9159696
maybe anon meant that people should learn how to improve their speaking voice, not so much putting on a fake one

i also agree that mindlessly forcing yourself to fill dead air is dumb, it's unnatural and can come off as being a huge spazz

>> No.9160193

>>9123315
>triggered my "Vshojo general" filter..

>> No.9161385

Streamlabs donation when configured with a business paypal won't let donators see my legal name, right? I know it technically shouldn't but I am one paranoid fuck.

>> No.9161620

>>9161385
Paranoia is good. Twitter had a donation feature that let donators see the reciever’s address. Hate to stress you out, but it’s good to be cautious. That said, I don’t know much about Streamlabs. Is your name attached to the Paypal at all?

>> No.9161671

>>9161620
It's a business account. I used my stream name as the business name, and my real name as the legal name - you need to verify with a bank account, no two ways around that. By right it should just show the biz name but I wanted to know if anyone had other experience with it showing legal name.

>> No.9163490

>>9159696
Like the other anon mentioned, pretty sure they meant just adding some energy/life to your real voice, not necessarily throwing on a fancy accent/speech manner. Like the difference between someone slouched over mumbling their words versus someone speaking with confidence, as if delivering a presentation in front of an audience (which they are)

>> No.9165321

>>9144518
>though about going dogboy because i can bark pretty well
Pleaso don't tease me like that. I want a cute male dog chubba that acts like an energetic dog.

>> No.9166843

>>9154293
Not him but;
https://www.twitch.tv/benosphere
https://www.twitch.tv/foxyjoel
https://www.twitch.tv/takahata101
https://www.twitch.tv/halbernacht

Are examples of male voices that i like personally.

>> No.9168063

>>9161671
Pretty sure it doesn't, but what you could do is donate through streamlabs using your normal paypal, and see what shows up on both ends. You can see what data you've put in for the dispute resolution as well.
You could ask a friend to do it, but that opens up the opsec.

>> No.9170201

>>9161671
I made a business paypal and it only shows my vtuber name, so I think you're in the clear.

>> No.9170700

>>9170201
Does it show your vtuber name when you pay someone else for art/editing/etc.?

>> No.9172341

>>9170700
Yes, it only shows the business name. I transferred money from my personal bank account to the business account, and paid from the business account.

>> No.9172727

i think i know why Kiara is my oshi now. she's just playing minecraft and instead of talking about random stuff like Gura, Kiara is just talking about what her life is like as a vtuber. the games she plays, the things she wants to play but was discouraged because it's not easily monetized. the pressure she feels to try and keep her chat entertained both in english and japanese. how she wants to avoid collabs with JPs because she's worried about chat relying too much on volunteer translators and not her. she puts a lot of responsibility on herself and is open to talking about it with her viewers. and i can appreciate getting that kind of a peek into her thought processes.

this is making me think about how i want to approach streaming as a new chuuba myself. i've been thinking about myself this whole time. my model, my rigging, my fanart, my skebs. but i don't take the time to think about my nonexistent viewers and what i can do to keep things fun for them.

>> No.9172978

>>9172727
I don't watch Kiara so I can't say I know EXACTLY what you mean, but I personally also enjoy people that talk about "real" stuff, and whatnot, despite being a character it reminds you that they're a person just like you

>> No.9173490

>>9172727
Kiara is the best entertainer in HoloEN by a lot because of this. She can maintain an interesting chat like this for twelve hours without breaking a sweat.

>> No.9173738
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9173738

I've been thinking about becoming a shota chuba. My voice is not very deep and on the phone people sometimes assune Im a woman. I can sing decently and I enjoy playing roguelites such as hades or slay the spire. Mostly in a speedrun or challengerun type of way. I also love rpgs and point-and-click adventures like day of the tenracle.I am not gay, but I wouldnt mind being obtuse about it for fujos. I can speak three languages (learning nip as a 4th) and have an interest in philosophy and medical science and would be okay with incorporating those into the stream. I also read a lot of manga and would like to do readings or reviews. I have never done any work on live2ds or 3d avatars and am a bit lost on where to start. Any advice is appreciated.

>> No.9173869

>>9173738
>Any advice is appreciated.
scribble a doodle of yourself as a png and get started.

>> No.9173874

>>9173738
grab a png (or make your own) and do some test streams

>> No.9175554

>>9173738
please have a boo-boo kiss redeem, dr. shota

>> No.9175864

>>9173869
>>9173874
Thanks, guess I'll start planning on streams and get motivated

>>9175554
sure

>> No.9178867

>>9175864
Good luck

>> No.9179035

I've decided that as soon as I get a PNG I'm gonna start PNGtubing on Twitch with a fresh channel instead of trying to plan out some debut stuff. Throw together a shitty overlay, find a game that might even slightly interest people, and then shill myself on some discords that I at least have an ok reputation on. Tell me everything that can go wrong and why this is a bad idea(aka what should I watch out for or do alongside).

Game ideas for first stream/week:
Rocket League
Minecraft
Some sort of co-op/tac shooter with friends(Squad, Insurgency, L4D, idk what else)

>> No.9179064

What could it mean if your audition is viewed again and again over a period of time?

>> No.9179226

>>9179064
Check the analytics in youtube studio to make sure those views are unique

>> No.9179927

>>9144518
Be a sloth tuber and I will watch

>> No.9180211

>>9179226
None of them are mine, I have not clicked my own video once.

>> No.9180283

>>9138757
>>9139241
>>9143998
I'm also wanting to do male kemonomimi. I don't know if it's really generic or not though; Coyote is my idea, which I know isn't common, but it'd probably just be dogboi aesthetic regardless so idk if that'd be too boring.

>> No.9180304

>>9180211
You're probably being compared against someone else because it's difficult to choose between you, then. Grats.

>> No.9180606

>>9180283
it really does not matter. stop treating your designs like a donut steel type OC from deviantart. you're streamers, just fucking pick a design and start making content.

>> No.9180665

>>9180606
why are you mean

>> No.9180677

>>9180665
because you're wasting time on shit that doesn't matter

>> No.9180690

>>9180665
That anon is right though

>> No.9181769

>>9180606
That's the plan, but that doesn't answer my question. If I'm asking for feedback on a design idea, then I want feedback on a design idea specifically.

>> No.9181852

>>9181769
>then I want feedback on a design idea specifically.
do your dog fucker thing. there.

>> No.9181902

>>9180690
that has nothing to do with being mean

>> No.9181908

>>9181852
cool thanks

>> No.9183074

>>9180283
Have ragged clothes and starve yourself before streaming and you'll be golden.

>> No.9186553

>>9165321
haha, sorry anon! i'm kid of low-energy, so i don't know if i could pull it off long-term. i'll do some testing and give it my best shot, though! not sure whether i'll end up with a 3d or 2d model, but when i get there, i do think i'd like something with a visible tail. all the animals i'm really fond of don't have that, though, so dogs may be less ruled-out than i initially thought.
>>9180283
a coyote sounds like fun! please tell me you pronounce it with the "e" at the end.

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9188871

I'm finally getting around to doing my redesign after figuring out what I really wanted.
Just a concept sketch, but the head will probably be mostly unchanged in the final version.

>> No.9191118

Is it worthy to learn how to live2d, or should I just go commission someone?

>> No.9191249

>>9191118
if you have money, commission it. learning live2d is a waste of time for most streamers since it doesn't contribute to streaming skill. and before you say you can stream yourself doing live2d there are also hundreds of vtubers who do that to zero viewers on twitch.

>> No.9191387

>>9191249
I don't have the money and I don't want to do crazy things, just XYZ and simple expressions. Thank you for the answer, though.

>> No.9191842

Any advice on how to prepare for an interview?

>> No.9192003

>>9191842
Who are you interviewing for?

>> No.9192044

>>9191842
you'll most likely be caught off-guard no matter what material you've prepared
keep composure, get some good nights rest beforehand, eat well

>> No.9195268

>i'll sub to you if you say X
>i'll donate 5 bits if you say X
>i'll use my free twitch prime sub on you if you say X
feels kinda degrading to have viewers who treat small chuubas like zoo animals

>> No.9195455

>>9173738
Do you have a sketch of how you would like the shota to look? I would simp you hard because i have been looking for a non faggy EN shota

>> No.9195979

>>9195455
nta, but what constitutes a "non faggy" shota to you?

>> No.9197592

I legit can't fucking pick a name, i've been at it for a week now

>> No.9198336

>>9197592
tell us about your character, anon.

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9199324

I'm giving away a free Steam $20 Gift Card and Playing Shitty PC Games from Walmart if you guys wanna join!

https://www.youtube.com/illreviewanything
https://www.twitch.tv/illreviewanything

>> No.9199705

>>9199324
shill yourself in /wvt/ not here

>> No.9199783

>>9195268
Did you say it though?

>> No.9199860

I am an amateur musician looking for experience, if anyone needs me to do music things for them for a low fee I'm here.

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9199872

>>9199705
But I'm an aspiring v-tuber? Also everyone else shills themselves here.

>> No.9199958

>>9199872
you're not even looking for feedback or advice you're just trying to bait views on your shit streams.

>> No.9200252

>>9199872
To be fair you'd probably get more viewers in /wvt/ anyway.

>> No.9200643

>>9186553
I do

>> No.9201304

>>9200643
i will now watch your stream

>> No.9206531

>>9197592
just pick a fucking name and start streaming. one of the most popular vtubers on the planet is named "ironmouse" but is a demon queen of hell.

>> No.9206600

>>9206531
True enough. But i figured a name out anyways, it's a pretty good one and surprisingly there are no big vtubers using it. I'll start streaming... on sunday i think? Too busy tomorrow.

>> No.9207535

>>9206600
Make sure to drop your links!

>> No.9211890

bump

>> No.9213037

I want to start streaming right now but my laptop can barely handle running something like Bluestacks, let alone other games. I was thinking in zatsudan while I get better equipment, but I feel I can only run with that for so long. Should I still jump into it?

>> No.9213076

a couple of viewers are hopping into DMs asking me to play with them or join their discords. is this normal? i want to keep some distance between me and my viewers and i'm not really in this to become friends or best buddies with my viewers. what do?

>> No.9213236

>>9213076
Make it a sub/donor privilege.

>> No.9213373

>>9213236
i don't really care to join their discord even if they're subbed to me. i know what discord drama can lead to and i want to avoid that.

>> No.9213567

>>9213373
Then make it play only but won't join their discord. Jesus anon, it's that simple.

>> No.9213810

I just wanted to stream and play video games but a recent windows update seems to have broken my shit.
Thank you Microsoft. Very cool. Not like I was streaming to any more than 2views but shit man, I feel bad now.

>> No.9215044

Bros how do I find 2 view indie vtubers on Youtube? It's easy on Twitch since you can search by tag and sort by views but I'm not sure how you would do it on Youtube?

>> No.9216412

>>9215044
Search "Vtuber" sort by live

>> No.9216742

>>9200252
Not the person who posted before, but I'll check /wvt/ out then, thanks

>> No.9216877

>>9213037
You should start streaming. You're not going to get swarmed by viewers unless you made a big debut out of it with a fancy model, if you're ever worried about that. Also, you'll gain a lot of experience the more times you stream (I'm assuming you're new to it, so I don't mean to step on your toes).

>> No.9217509

Lads how do I open up more when streaming. I feel like I'm stiff as a board as soon as I hit go live. I just want to let lose and have fun but its like I have a gun to the back of my head about to cap me if I say something wrong.
I just want to make the funny haha jokes aaaaaaaaa

>> No.9218038

>>9217509
Gotta stream more and get used to it, you'll feel comfy when you know your viewers more probably

>> No.9218887

vroid gets a bad rap, but if enough time is put into a model it can be really impressive. I've just seen a model with none of the shitty things you normally see in lots of vroid models (the shitty eyes, the mouth movement)

>> No.9219016

Anyone getting vshojo app views?

>> No.9219364

>>9219016
Yep! Just the one though. I assume they’re checking for the “hey vshojo!” requirement

>> No.9219908

>>9219016
>>9219364
same here.

>> No.9222112

Man, anyone got phase connect views yet? They’re the small company I really wanna go with.
Their audition period is so long…

>> No.9222679

How tacky would it be to use BGM that a bigger streamer used to use for a similar purpose because you really liked how it sounded

>> No.9222859

Just rolled over to my second month of being an affiliate. Checking out my subscribers, and so far, only one of three who's first month is up has resubbed.
Do any of you have founders badges, and if you do, do you keep the subscription going regardless, or do you drop it after getting the badge? When do you cancel subscriptions to chuubas?
I tend to cancel if it's been two weeks of no content with no prior warning, regardless of reason. I once made an allowance for Lemonleaf, as she said her cat was hit by a car, and she's since re-incarnated. So I'm now much more reluctant to give chuubas money if they're not performing.
But I've also dropped subscriptions (and unfollowed, once or twice) if they change what time they stream such that it's not easy to keep watching them.

How about you, anons, when do you cancel your subs?

>> No.9223015

>>9213037
You absolutely can stream just chatting streams to begin with.

But you won't get far. You'll have no viewers to interact with, you'll have nobody dropping in because they love the game, and you'll have to be super careful of OpSec.

If you can do presentations on things you're knowledgeable about, it might work, but you still are unlikely to attract viewers. Realistically, from streams I've hung in, you need about 20 viewers minimum if you want an interactive time with chat.

>>9213076
Create your own discord, and invite them in to there.

It centralizes your followers. You might have the Bungo problem of them preferring each others' company to you, but at least it'll keep the discord semi-active, which is more than I can say for some.

>> No.9224030

>>9195979
Not a femboy or trap. You can tell it's a shota from looking at it. Mashiro is a faggy shota in my opinion.

>> No.9224200

Is there even a point applying to the bigger companies with two digit Twitch subs? Seems like you'd just get autofiltered, so there's no point even wasting your time on the application

>> No.9224339

>>9180665
go back to twitter you fucking retard

>> No.9226918

bump

>> No.9226967

I'd considered several times over the past few months about getting in to it myself but the logistics of it all just isn't something I'm capable of by myself since I aim to be a perfectionist.
I absolutely don't do well with chat interaction and can't carry a stream solo.
My strength lies more in direct interaction; as a mute in virtual space, greeting new people and showing off things they've never seen before - something I can't do for an repeated-viewing audience. Once the first impression's done; I've really got nothing else to offer.

>> No.9228333

>>9226967
Some of the best vtubers are VRChat mute streamers. Just go 3D.

>> No.9228649

>>9222679
Mumei uses one of the tracks Ame has used, everyone is leeching off of the same royalty free/creative commons tracks anyway.

>> No.9229360

/asp/ has really died down hasn't it? I hardly see anyone post there concept sketches or streams here anymore.

>> No.9229395

>>9222112
Yeah, I've gotten 4 views from them so far.

>> No.9229396

>>9229360
*their
please don't kill me

>> No.9229830

>>9229360
It happens every few weeks; we're probably due for a new batch of /asp/ies in a month probably but the most recent batch has gotten well into the swing of things.

>> No.9229851

>>9229360
i've taken everything i've learned from here and started streaming about 2 months ago. i periodically check in on the thread and offer suggestions when i can. but i don't see much drive from anons who want to start streaming. it's mostly just been the same timeloops about trying to get unique designs and making up their own OCs.

>> No.9229910

>>9229360
I'm still waiting on mine. The artist hasn't been able to progress for about 13 days now as life keeps getting in the way.
I tried to commission another artist for something else, and it's been a week with no news.
I think I just have terrible luck with finding artists.
In that time, another vtuber's appeared that's pretty much the same gimmick as what I was going for, so I'm just incredibly demotivated to do anything now.

>> No.9229956

>>9229910
>the same gimmick as what I was going for
stop relying so much on gimmicks

>> No.9230036

>>9229956
Sorry, Character Concept then.

>> No.9230474

>>9229956
If you're a male vtuber don't you have to rely on gimmicks? Obviously getting people to stay relies on your personality, but having a neat gimmick to your avatar makes it easier for others to want to check out your streams.

>> No.9230503

>>9229851
Same, anon. Been going for 2.5 months now, still checking here, planning on dropping a link once I start a new playthrough of something interesting.

>> No.9230509

>>9230474
yes

>> No.9230804

>>9230036
is your character concept supposed to be the thing that keeps new viewers returning to your streams? too many anons sound like you're just trying to create fanart about your OC. that's not what being a vtuber is. you're still a streamer.

>>9230474
i'm male. i don't rely on gimmicks. you shouldn't rely on gimmicks because it's gonna get old and stale after a week.

>> No.9231400

>>9230804
post channel

>> No.9231496

>>9231400
don't have anything to prove to you anons. take it or leave it, gimmickanon.

>> No.9231520

I'm thinking of doing a combined affiliate/100followers/outfit reveal celebration stream, but I'm uncertain what I should actually do during that sort of stream. What kind of things would attract an audience while still giving off a "celebratory" mood?

>> No.9231577

>>9231496
>don't have anything
yeah, figured as much.

>> No.9231603

>>9231496
>don't have anything
what a surprise

>> No.9231939

>>9229360
i want to post concept sketches but i thought i would look attention-whorey :(

>> No.9231992

>>9218887
which model?
side note, picky’s is an excellent example of how far time, effort, & skill can get you in vroid

>> No.9232017

>>9231939
Just do it fren :>

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>>9231939
it's pretty common to do so here! a bunch of anons have!
>>9231992
>>9218887
honestly yeah if you look around there's a lot of people who have put in work into their vroid models to set themselves apart from what you usually think of when you see a vroid

>> No.9234254

>0 viewers
How do you power through and remain entertaining for your 2 VOD watchers?

>> No.9234315

>>9234254
you just do it. if no one is watching your streams just rehash the same zatsudan material over and over again.

>> No.9236045

>>9231520
ASK
YOUR
FUCKING
VIEWERS


If you EVER run out of ideas for streams, or for celebrations, or for 'special events' and 'one-offs', then ask your chat what they'd like to see. They're the ones who're going to sit through it it. They're the ones going to dono if they like it. They're the ones you are entertaining.


Sure, you could go and do a EU4 single playthrough stream, because you like the game. But if none of your viewers are interested in that, it's a really bad idea to do as your event. Set up a google form, so it's anonymous. Or get them put it in the pinned tweet. Or on your discord's "Suggestions" channel. Make them feel included and part of the decision making process, so they're involved and are already invested.


We can give you ideas on what to do, but we don't know your stream, or what your viewers would like. So if I suggest go and play through Soma, but none of your chat likes existential horror, because you're a family friendly kid-game streamer, then that's stupid advice. If I suggest do a Civ6 multiplayer game with chat, but you're a FPS god that's #1worldwide in Overwatch, the majority of your fans aren't going to be interested.


In general terms, giveaways, sneakpeeks, and insights work well. Cheap channel point redeems, cheaper (integrated) sound alerts, let chat fuck with you - they nearly always enjoy your suffering.

>> No.9236805

>>9222859
I have founder badge in a couple of channels. If the streamer is consistent and I really like hanging in their channel, I won't cancel. Founder badge collectors are real desu (I'm kinda guilty of it) but I try to resub from time to time if I can

>> No.9236850

>>9166843
The only one that uses a fake voice is the first one. The latter three are literally just talking.

>> No.9237124

>>9236850
Beno's not acting either, he's that way in VCs too

>> No.9237219

>>9236850
it's not just about using a fake voice, it's about having one that is pleasing to listen to. it's not talking, it's the way and how you speak to be clearly understood by your viewers. there are plenty of vtubers with 0-1 views who just talk like your usual dude bro dropping swears words and throwing a tantrum that no one wants to listen to.

>> No.9237629

Hey /asp/ do you know what does Corpse use for her text to appear on the stream? is it some kind of speech-to-text program or does she just writes the full sentence and pastes it onto the textbox?

>> No.9237659

>>9237629
notepad, screen capture, hold alt to resize window

>> No.9238162

Do people find guy voices cute? Like not over the top cutesy uwu kinda cute, but would they find it cute like you'd find a girl cute?

>> No.9238795

>>9238162
i cum repeatedly to voices like David Attenborough, so yes

>> No.9238867

Anyone got cyberlive views?

>> No.9238891

>>9238162
Not really. Voices of women sound more pleasing to me without any effort. It's why nasally high-pitched voices of 20 something males playing backlogs are such a debuff, because I could watch the same content by a woman and naturally find it more cute and endearing.

>> No.9238989

>>9229360
I started 2 months ago but too autistic to shill myself really. Also going to echo what others have said; I've gotten used to what I'm doing and already taken most of the advice this thread has to offer to heart.

>> No.9239021

>>9233034
>demifiend catboy
but why

>> No.9239106

>>9238162
People who are attracted to men can find it cute i.e. me. I find some male traits cute. This question is like asking "are pectorals sexy?" Not sure what you're aiming for

>> No.9239254

>>9238891
I honestly wish someone would perform an experiment for something like this. Like, take two identical playthroughs, voice one with a generic male commentator and one with a generic female one, then evaluate/survey on how the audience perceived the entertainment quality of both.

Shame I don't have the university resources or access to do something like this like I could've a few years ago.

>> No.9239319

>>9239254
Vtubers are an outlier where people would rather watch a girl play a game, outside of this hobby, men dominate it

>> No.9239571

>>9239254
it's gonna be the female voice. streaming is dominated by men, both in actual streamers and viewers. and most viewers who would be interested in watching vtubers are weebs.

>> No.9239607

>>9239319
But that's what would be interesting about a study like this; you could easily break things further down into, say, what qualities certain people in your testing sample perceived from their respective clip(s) and how that relates to the audience in question.

Like, if it turns out that there's a correlation between people who, say, watch more video content online, who spend money on video content/streamers, or who know of/watch Vtubers and finding the female-voiced playthrough more entertaining than similar viewers who watched the male-voiced version instead, that'd be a fascinating thing to note. And simultaneously, if casual viewers or people who don't watch streamers find the male voice more entertaining in comparison.

I just like the idea of actually being able to quantify if and how this really makes a difference, and theoretically it's a super easy experiment to perform since you don't even need in-person testers.

>> No.9239731

>>9238162
for men your voice can't be cute, but you can have cute actions/traits. For your voice to be anything close to cute you would need a sensual or soothing voice and then have those cute aspects added to it.
my voice actually kind of fits the bill which is why I know

>> No.9239778

>>9239254
Its going to be the female one, why do you think a majority of the popular vtubers are female? The audience is predominantly male weebs.

>> No.9239922

>>9239778
And most streamers, including a lot of the most successful ones, are male. Your point?

>> No.9239988

>>9239922
there's a difference in audience between those who watch webcam streamers vs anime girls, anon

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>>9239021
its an outfit he made for nocturne streams specifically

>> No.9240092

>>9239988
And I'd be interested to quantify what those differences are, is what I'm saying

>> No.9240192

>>9240092
look at what your average shut in millennial weeb likes. on one side you have lewd big tits, on the other side you have loli. what do they like about males? aside from blank self inserts, they want a dude bro like Kamina who's high energy and always cheering you on.

>> No.9240303

>>9240092
c'mon nta but most people watch Vtubers because they want to se cute anime GIRLS and get provided by some sort of parasocial relationship. That's what male vtubers don't understand.

>> No.9240491

>>9238162
Yes. I find Scott the woz's voice adorable, i wish he would stream more.

>> No.9240532

>>9240192
>>9240303
I think you both are missing the point.

The entire point of a study on something like this is to actually be able to quantify and say *with data* that these actually are or aren't factors. We can sit here and repeat anecdotes and armchair psychology until the sun burns out, but ultimately the interesting thing to me is to actually be able to point to these differences and what distinguishes audiences or the appeal of certain performers when you remove as many external factors as possible and can get down to the bare facts.

>> No.9240570

cool blog anon

>> No.9240613

>>9240092
The difference is that the portion of the audience watching vtubers are weebs. It's why there's a bit of crossover between streamers like Sodapoppin or OTV and larger people like VShojos. They've got both got heavy weeb audiences. You're overthinking it.

Viewers for streamers: Mostly male in general
Viewers for vtubers: mostly male weebs
Viewers for hot tub sluts: mostly male coomers

>> No.9240948

>>9216877
>>9223015
I see. Thanks for the advice, anons. i'll see what I can do for zatsudan.
>>9224200
Generally no bt who knows, maybe they will take a risk with you. You lose nothing for applying except some time and maybe dignity if they secretly laugh at you.

>> No.9241066

Ended up buying an Elgato HD60 and the artist I'm in talks with already made a sketch-up of my character. Feels weird that this could be turning real within a few weeks.

>> No.9242536

>>9239106
Well I've never really found guys particularly cute, so I was curious to see what others felt about it. I'm worried I might come off as cringy or even creepy if I try to do cute things.

>> No.9243741

>>9242536
Male anime avatar man interacts with another male anime avatar man. Women cream themselves.

>> No.9243914

>>9242536
The key to being able to get away with doing cute things is having an established audience, popular male vtubers have 'cute' moments too even if they have majority men watching them but due to their content being aimed at a wider audience, it's not like people are alienated by the 'cute' moments since it doesn't define him. You can't just start right off the bat doing cutesy things or you're shoving yourself into a tiny box.
People can say "just be cute and women will like you" "just be friends with a male and fujos will coom" and point at all the guys who do these things and are popular, fail to understand that you need to have a personality and draw to attention outside this. No one liked those male vtubers for those moments when they were literal whos. There are hundreds and hundreds of 2view cute or ikemen males (in Japanese, even more) because they chose to begin with that kind of content

>> No.9245536

>>9243741
Give examples. English speaking ones.

>> No.9247419

just looking through the 0-3 view chuubas live on twitch right now. so many of them have shitty "going live, haha i'm so bad at this game, tee hee" type of title that turn me off from clicking the stream.

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9248443

Finally sent in two audition videos for Phase and CyberLive 10 minutes ago. Pretty excited, but also nervous haha.

>> No.9250159

>>9248443
good luck

>> No.9250659

For those who have models with expressions, what hotkeys do you use for them? Also, any tips on memorizing what expression is mapped to which key? Should I just make a sticky note?

>> No.9250760

>>9250659
i use a stream deck now, but before that, i used the numberpad and stuck little smiley expressions on them using post it notes i cut out with scissors

>> No.9256673

>>9247419
What would be good titling?

>> No.9256979

>>9256673
a title that gives me a reason to click on your stream?

>> No.9258392

>>9243741
>women

>> No.9258509

>>9256979
>WANNA MEET HOT CHUUBAS IN YOUR AREA?
>CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT HOW!
I wrote it as a joke but if you go through the effort to make your thumbnail look like those ads you'll probably get people to click.

>> No.9258729

Is there a way to increase the chance of people finding your stream on Youtube (aside from tweeting it out)? Sounds impossible.

>> No.9258888

>>9258729
Make actual videos or make videos of clips from the best parts of your streams. That'll get people to check out your channel and see when you're next streaming. If you want someone to organically stumble across your stream, well that's pretty much just luck.

>> No.9259140

>>9258888
I see. Thank you!

>> No.9259210

Is there any serious audience for the tomboy archetype with western audiences? I've noticed the majority of well-performing startups tend to be overly cutesy or feminine, although that could just be anecdotal.

>> No.9259322

>>9258729
Stream on Twitch, put highlights on Youtube

>> No.9259377

>>9259210
>tomboy
YES PLEASE, GIVE ME YOUR LINK AND I WILL FOLLOW YOU

>> No.9259415

>>9258729
>(aside from tweeting it out)? Sounds impossible.
that's because it is. organic discovery never happens on youtube anymore. stop trying to make youtube work.

>> No.9259487

>>9259377
Still working on it, was asking because I'm trying to settle on a character design

>> No.9259562

>>9259210
You are a fool to even ask such a question. Do you know how thirsty people are for tomboys and tomboy sweat? If either you yourself or a friend you know is interested in becoming the fabled tomboy chuuba please do so.

>> No.9259681

>>9259210
Honestly, no. You'll get pumped and dumped by a few fetishists and that's about it.

>> No.9260681

>>9259210
tomboy design? sure
but can you actually play the part while streaming?

>> No.9260793

>>9259210
What do you plan on doing? Talk about sports and physical activities while you game to a bunch of nerds?

>> No.9261053

Just found this vtuber on twitter https://twitter.com/oni_giri_en?s=21 and she seems to have grown very fast, but all I really see is the typical vtweeting that almost every other vtuber does. How and why was she able to get more than 2000 followers on both Twitter and TikTok and is almost to 1000 on Twitch in less than two months? Is it just luck?

>> No.9261392

>>9261053
Took a look and
>coomer bait
>great model and expressions
>oni
>memes
Simple as.

>> No.9261397

>>9261053
looks like she just got lucky with one of her tweets, specifically this one. https://twitter.com/Oni_Giri_EN/status/1433925952279506954 the rest of her tweets seem to have very low interactions.

>> No.9261560

rate design and preference on zipper?
https://files.catbox.moe/esxibe.png
Supposed to be something like a modern adidas priest, with the red zipper being something akin to a sailor outfit. Trying to make it cute enough to market while also look masculine enough so I can casually use my voice and not have it be too jarring to anyone that walks in.

>> No.9261791

>>9261392
There’s a lot of other coomer bait vtubers with decent models and memes out there that don’t grow nearly this fast.
>>9261397
Never been a big fan of TikTok but it really seems like one way to get easy advertising.

>> No.9261968

>>9261791
>Never been a big fan of TikTok but it really seems like one way to get easy advertising.
True but then you have to wonder if that's the kind of fans you want.

>> No.9262075

>>9261968
>if that's the kind of fans you want.
t. someone who doesn't know what tiktok is
tiktok is fine and utilizing every social media platform to grow is vital if you want to make it. stop being a retarded bitch about tiktok. make the content you want and the algorithm will sort out the viewers. don't want zoomers? don't make zoomerbait content. simple as.

>> No.9262210

>>9261560
i like the red zipper version a lot; i think it adds a good contrast

>> No.9262221

>>9262075
The demographic of the entire platform is someone who can only pay attention for three minutes maximum.

>> No.9262261

>>9262075
NTA but it seems like most of what’s on the app is zoomerbait. I have not seen any vtuber on there that doesn’t post zoomer memes or their model dancing to the trending music

>> No.9262269

>>9262221
again, you have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.9262384

>>9262210
I think I'll go with that one then

>> No.9262400

>>9262261
>it seems like most of what’s on the app is zoomerbait.
yeah, that's because your brain is zoomer tier garbage. the algorithm sorts you based on what videos you watch, how long you watch, whether you like and follow. if you're only seeing zoomerbait shit, that means your tastes are zoomer tier.

there are entire communities on tiktok that cover every possible topic on the planet. from books, cinematography, /x/ type shit, warhammer 40k and dnd every single fucking thing. if all you're seeing is zoomerbait, that speaks more about you than anything else. it's like complaining you're seeing ads for Grindr when using facebook or google. it's targeted and personalized to you.

>> No.9262726

>>9262400
I don’t even have TikTok installed lol. I’m just talking about the videos I see posted on TikTok from the big vtubers I follow or end up on my TL because their post got good traction, and none of it is anything other than them following a zoomer trend.

>> No.9262791

>only looks at cherrypicked material designed for broadest appeal
>wow, tiktok is just zoomerbait shit for broadest appeal
?

>> No.9263036

>>9262400
not him but it's definitely zoomerbait. I downloaded it once to check out if their was a robotics scene only to find that not only was the robotics scene shit, but the damn thing kept recommending me literally anything else regardless of what I would look up. Still I would definitely use it for advertising, it's perfect for that since zoomers don't have a high attention span and the short length of the videos comboed with music makes it so they sit through and watch the whole thing regardless of it's quality.
once I got a 3d rig up I'm going to make a shit ton of those endless/smooth looping tiktoks since those work extremely well on it

>> No.9263202

>>9263036
>not him but it's definitely zoomerbait
it's really not and the more you keep thinking this, the worse it's going to get.

>> No.9263255

>>9263202
>>9262400
Look at this dude grinding his social credit score.

>> No.9263458

>>9263202
>how can you think that an app that was made with a specific generation in mind, and was marketed towards that specific generation, was made with the intention of baiting that generation?!
you're either retarded or a chink, and I'm not sure which is worse.

>> No.9265486

be honest with me. what would it take a for a m*le to really make it?

>> No.9266042

>>9265486
Being a regular streamer instead of a Vtuber

>> No.9266145

>>9265486
>>9266042
This

>> No.9268150

>>9266042
but i'm ugly

>> No.9268160

>>9268150
ngmi

>> No.9268214

>>9268150
we're all gonna make it brah

>> No.9268704

>>9265486
You pad your stream history and then you apply to an actual vtuber company.

>> No.9268823

>>9268704
>You pad your stream history
how do i do this? bot viewers?

>> No.9269247

>>9265486
whats ur definition of "make it", stream as a full time gig?

>> No.9269902

>>9123315
So, did any male nijiEN aspirants get views on their audition tape?

>> No.9270185

>>9265486
1- Full on cater to fujos, learn from jp nijis
2- Become a femboy and cater to those that are into it, gotta train your voice to be feminine

>> No.9270216

>>9270185
>t. never watched Nijisanji

>> No.9270234

Would it be better to put something similar to a sewing stream under the makers & crafting category, or the just chatting category? I figure crafting might give me better visibility, but do people even check that category?

>> No.9270246

>>9269902
Nope, I do find it interesting they haven't sent out a "Check your emails" tweet like they did for the girls though This is me coping that I still have a chance

>> No.9270765

>>9261560
>glasses
>priest

Please post when you go live I’m frothing at the gash already.
I think I prefer the non red zipper. What would it look like if you had red glasses instead maybe?

>> No.9270768

So I've been thinking of content ideas for when I start streaming and I think I want to include playing games with online friends and family in it. I'm worried about how I'll probably just ignore kayfabe all together for these streams or otherwise how the audience may perceive that content. I still want to do it though because playing with them seems like it'd make good content early on when I know nobody will be watching so it'll be harder to interact with chat.

Playing with others would all be online with voice calls in discord, nobody would display their real names but we'd likely use each other's first names if we're familiar like that. My character's first name will just be my irl first name, so name slipups shouldn't be a concern. I'm also not planning on being super concerned with personal opsec compared to most chuuba, but would still like to avoid just straight up showcasing my personal life, especially if that may affect how other vtubers feel about ever collabing.

The only other thing worth mentioning would be that I'm considering doing in person gameplay with my brother as well, but this is unlikely to happen right away so I have plenty of time to figure out how I want to do that.

>> No.9270769

>>9269902
they already moved to the next round 2 weeks ago, someone posted on asp the email they got

>> No.9270811

>>9270768
Sounds like you just want to be a regular streamer bro. You can just do that you know.

Are you an artist? I think it could work if you did cute little reactive scuff pngs for each person, so that they feel more included if you really want to go the vtuber route.

>> No.9270831

>>9270811
That would be really, really cute. Anon, please do this.

>> No.9270851

>>9270811
Replying to myself but doing reactive images for your family or anyone else you’re gonna have recurring will give them a lot more personality and make your channel feel like a cast of characters.

>> No.9270866

>>9270811
I don't think I'd mind being a regular streamer, but even then I love the idea of having a character instead of facecam or no-cam. I have a close friend who's a vtuber too and she's been a great inspiration for me to even start making content again. Overall I love this community way more than any other streaming community so I'd hate to be excluded from it due to format.

I've thought about sketching them yeah, but I'm not an artist at all so it wouldn't even look charming in a scuffed way. It would just be ass.

>> No.9270893

>>9270234
No one checks that section. Try to do it in just chatting, but the problem is that just chatting is oversaturated so it will be hard to get discovered..

>> No.9270911

>>9270831
>>9270851
The people I would stream with would be pretty regular and a small number too, so maybe I could find another way of getting some cutouts. I really like that idea, but I don't see them wanting to do any kayfabe or designs themselves really, so it might be limited to just providing a visual for viewers

>> No.9270934

>>9270866

That’s fair anon!! I think it can be done.

I think it might be worth putting some money aside and getting some really scuff character designs.

I didn’t come here to shill myself but give me a kick on twitter and I’ll do you a deal @love_bumble

>> No.9270971

>>9270911
I think you want something with a design for them so people can make that sweet sweet fan art.

>> No.9271176

>>9270971
Yeah I'd still be down for commissioning a few artists to make something basic

>> No.9271294

>>9270934
nta but I love your art

>> No.9271527

>>9239607
I'd love to see some form of data on it, so you could see viewer retention rates and the like.

I've been doing some gathering of my own, but all small scale stuff. Tracking views of clips on Tiktok, twitter, and youtube; based on day/time and how crass the title is. I'm pretty sure my latest upload to tiktok got shadowblocked, because it's on 0 views, whereas my normal is 170+...

Next step is uploading similar clips, tagging them with vtuber, envtuber, vtuberen, vtuberclips, and whatever else is relevant. Second batch will be split between tagging the game and not.

I don't currently have the backlog of clips that I can do large tests, but it's giving me stuff to work with. Seeing more data on other things is pretty much always helpful

>> No.9271854

>>9271294
Ty anon!!

>> No.9272012

>>9256673
1) The first 36 characters will show up in the twitch list. So you need something snappy that fits there
2) I've had success using puns, references, and stupid jokes (sometimes)
3) What makes your stream different to anyone elses?
4) Spellcheck it

So, if we're doing Crusader Kings 2, starting as the Vikings, and we plan on becoming a Merchant Republic (using ~ to indicate 36char):
a) Come and wathc me paly Crusader Kin~gs, starting as Nrose to become Mrechats!
b) CK2 Vikings
c) vtuber plays ck2
are all shit. More, the category will appear, so adding CK2 doesn't do ANYTHING

d) Viking Raiders to Merchant Navy!
is better, it gives an overview of what you're doing, timeline, and plans. But it's boring.

Personally, I'd probably do something like
e) Ikea, but 1000 years early

(nearly) everyone knows ikea. They're aware it's Scandinavian, that it's a large company, and so it ties you into a money making Scandinavian idea. It also gives you things to put into your schedule and go-live posts; and potentially you could use #ikea to get a really weird signal boost.

I went and checked CK2, but there's no games. So checked CK3, and there's six. Here's the titles:
1 - Sunday Stream: Hausa Party [Achieveme~nts and chill]
2 - Crusader kings 2 sunday nr 40/
3 - Burgundian Empire!
4 - Isle of Mann | Tiny island takes ov~er all of Britannia?
5 - [ENG] Learning the game. After a lon~g break from CK2... we're learning Ck3. Be Patient with my bipolar, please.
6 - First game, CK3

2, 5, and 6 are terrible. They add nothing to the game at all. I would not watch them.
1 should scrap "Sunday Stream". Even the fivest of heads know what day it is. The rest is alright.
4 is good, as it clearly tells you the plan, but should have a name for the stream (Hausa Party is a perfect example). 'Manny hands make light work' for a quick example that also isn't good
3 gives a good idea of what you're aiming to do, and doesn't overlap. The stream title isn't exciting, but there's nothing here that's bad, it's just not good.

This is also why you need a snappy NAME for your stream. 'Hausa Party' works for this - it's 10char, it's a pun, and you can make stupid memeposts with it on social media. It is very unlikely that a CK3 game will entirely be over in a single stream, so it means Hausa Party 2 can be used next time.

>> No.9272317

>>9272012
manny hands is a killer pun anon, be kinder to yourself

>> No.9274657

>>9268150
and?

>> No.9274680

>>9270185
>1- Full on cater to fujos, learn from jp nijis
Give some examples of males doing this?

>> No.9274722

>>9274680
EN ones I mean, using JP examples is pretty irrelevant.

>> No.9276730

>>9265486
be entertaining
dont not be entertaining

it really is as simple as that. being male means you actually have to apply yourself rather than just glide on the crutch of being a femoid

>> No.9276976

>>9274680
Have a masc but not bara model and stream with another dude constantly. Talk about going out to eat lunch irl and compliment him in games and shit. Axia and Lauren are in the most recent wave if you want to see what fujos like from debut to current without too much investment. Oliver and Leos are new and popular too and attract a lot of fujos without baiting as much and are from the same wave. They made a few thousand dollars and got fan art of them failing to adjust their mic settings for an hour. And did another stream where they fucked up with the same game in a new way and people enjoyed it just as much. With fujo baiting all you have to do is be next to another male and friendly and people will support you.

>> No.9277453

I've been asked by one of the listed companies to Interview with them. I'm nervous but very excited. I'll do my best. Thank you for the help, Anons.

>> No.9277493

How does it feel when you stream a game you're really excited to play, but your numbers dip so hard that your chat is almost inactive?

>> No.9277707

>>9277453
rooting for you anon!

>> No.9277962

>>9276976
tfw my friend had the highest chat engagement when we had a phasmo collab cause we made our friend a catboy twink and bullied him. The fujo buff is real bros

I want to do it again but with my pngtuber for maximum fujo bait

>> No.9280261

>>9259210
I might be wrong but despite people clamoring for a tomboy archetype they tend to be less popular than any other archetype.

>> No.9280265

Would Squad make good content for male vtuber?

>> No.9280548

>>9277453
m*le?

>> No.9280632

>>9280548
No males get interviews don't be silly

>> No.9281058

>>9277453
Good luck anon hope you make it!

>> No.9281226

>>9277453
I’m excited for you!! Get it!!!!

>> No.9281244

>>9280548
I'm a femanon c:

>> No.9284474

>>9270234
When I do sewing streams I usually put them under Makers and Crafting.

>> No.9285733

>>9276730
>be entertaining
>dont not be entertaining
any examples of this that aren't "dude is just loud and overexaggerates reactions"?

>> No.9286011

Entertainment is a form of activity that holds the attention and interest of an audience or gives pleasure and delight. It can be an idea or a task, but is more likely to be one of the activities or events that have developed over thousands of years specifically for the purpose of keeping an audience's attention.

Although people's attention is held by different things because individuals have different preferences, most forms of entertainment are recognisable and familiar. Storytelling, music, drama, dance, and different kinds of performance exist in all cultures, were supported in royal courts, developed into sophisticated forms and over time became available to all citizens. The process has been accelerated in modern times by an entertainment industry that records and sells entertainment products. Entertainment evolves and can be adapted to suit any scale, ranging from an individual who chooses a private entertainment from a now enormous array of pre-recorded products; to a banquet adapted for two; to any size or type of party, with appropriate music and dance; to performances intended for thousands; and even for a global audience.

The experience of being entertained has come to be strongly associated with amusement, so that one common understanding of the idea is fun and laughter, although many entertainments have a serious purpose. This may be the case in the various forms of ceremony, celebration, religious festival, or satire for example. Hence, there is the possibility that what appears as entertainment may also be a means of achieving insight or intellectual growth.

An important aspect of entertainment is the audience, which turns a private recreation or leisure activity into entertainment. The audience may have a passive role, as in the case of persons watching a play, opera, television show, or film; or the audience role may be active, as in the case of games, where the participant/audience roles may be routinely reversed. Entertainment can be public or private, involving formal, scripted performance, as in the case of theatre or concerts; or unscripted and spontaneous, as in the case of children's games. Most forms of entertainment have persisted over many centuries, evolving due to changes in culture, technology, and fashion for example with stage magic. Films and video games, for example, although they use newer media, continue to tell stories, present drama, and play music. Festivals devoted to music, film, or dance allow audiences to be entertained over a number of consecutive days.

Some entertainment, such as public executions, are now illegal in most countries. Activities such as fencing or archery, once used in hunting or war, have become spectator sports. In the same way, other activities, such as cooking, have developed into performances among professionals, staged as global competitions and then broadcast for entertainment. What is entertainment for one group or individual may be regarded as work or an act of cruelty by another.

The familiar forms of entertainment have the capacity to cross over different media and have demonstrated a seemingly unlimited potential for creative remix. This has ensured the continuity and longevity of many themes, images, and structures.

>> No.9286286

>>9173738
>>9175864
>pirate Koikatsu Party
>Install the HF patch
>model your envisioned shota in KK
>take a rendered screenshot
>trace/edit the screenshot to create your live2D png
Art software reps are optional but may come in handy. I think Ina's drawing streams may help you out in this.

Good luck, Shotanon. And keep us updated.

>> No.9286688

>>9286011
thanks for the wikipedia definition of what entertainment is. but i was asking for examples.

>> No.9287010

>>9280261
What archetypes would you say are popular, then?

>> No.9287088

>>9287010
loli (any loli chuuba)
genki (pikamee)
dommy mommy (Kronii)
soft spoken asian stereotype that sings well is submissive and often takes chat requests (most asmr vtubers and Uto)

>> No.9287302

>>9286688
Not him but in what regards? If you mean male entertainers in general it's easy to list a few, but in the vtuber scene it's hard since they seem to either be plain ol boring or extremely over the top. The thing is the avatar kind of accentuates how boring the streamer is since the design might look really cool but the voice and talking points coming out of it just don't match up. In that case it's just better to be over the top than to be boring.

>> No.9287309

>>9287088
Figures. I wondered how a literallywho 2view could pull over $1k on her first monetized stream, but ig she slots into her niche perfectly.

>> No.9287432

>>9287302
>If you mean male entertainers in general it's easy to list a few, but in the vtuber scene
i think it's better to learn examples that are within reach. pointing to seasoned stand up comedians, or e-celebs with 10+ years of growth doesn't make sense for an /asp/ie who is starting their first livestream ever. examples of others who are maybe up to 1 year out, didn't buy their way to success or riding on a wave of previous content creation

>> No.9287529

Are there any old-school noir-themed chuubas out there, or is that an aesthetic that's never really translated well to Vtubing?

>> No.9287645

>>9287529
designs are easy to do as a vtuber since it just requires an artist to draw it. but i can't think of any chuuba indie or otherwise who makes that the main theme. Tsunderia claimed that "noir" was their theme for the two new talents but one turned out to be generic catgirl in techwear and the other was socal valley girl gothic dullahan

>> No.9289177

Like I said, it's easy so long as you aren't looking for vtubers.
>krealtube
>kneecaps
>DeadwingDork
There, I named three that aren't seasoned stand up comedians or e-celebs with 10+ years of growth, didn't buy their way to success or are riding on a wave of previous content creation; with DeadwingDork being a livestreamer that started from nothing and is most likely less able than you are due to having a claw for a hand. Hell you can probably throw sseth in that list too since you can go to his older videos and see that he was still just as entertaining as he is now. It's either something you have to learn or something you just inherently have.
luckily I've been blessed with the latter

>> No.9290384

Instead of asking about views, how about, has anyone made it to the second round with anyone?

>> No.9291014
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9291014

>>9290384
The second round? You mean like couples do?

>> No.9292490

Lately I've really been wanting to give vtubing a try, can any of you recommend any video guides that were helpful for getting started? When I tried searching on YouTube all I found were videos that say you need a model which is pretty obvious, go into a little detail on the pros and cons of 2D versus 3D, but not any of the actual technical stuff like what you need or how to use anything. Or is that because it's actually just that easy? Is it really as simple as paying to have a model rigged, purchasing a license for some Live2D software and everything is straight forward after that? It can't be super difficult because I'm seeing so many people having fun with vtubing right now, but at the same time I'm confused on where exactly to start. This general seems surprisingly helpful and humble and I would appreciate any pointers, thank you

>> No.9292633

>>9292490
its as easy to start as u just said, what else do u need to know? u didnt ask any specifics

>> No.9292943

>>9292490
make a twitch account, download OBS, and get started. any tutorial you find on how to start streaming with a webcam will be the exact same for vtubing. at its core it's still just streaming. don't worry about the pros or cons of 2D vs 3D since you're just starting out. it's a useless distinction if you don't even have a month of streaming under your belt. start with a PNG and see if streaming is even something you enjoy doing in the first place.

>> No.9292954

anons i am here to blog again
0 watching my stream for like half of it
feels bad man
even my captcha was KYS

>> No.9293104

>>9292954
what value are you providing to your viewers? ask yourself why someone would trade a couple hours of their day to tune in and watch your stream vs netflix or listening to some true crime podcast series. it doesn't have to be amazing, but just something valuable that you are providing to the audience that they won't get in many other places.

>> No.9293181

>>9292633
I think I'm mostly confused because vtubing looks like it'd be something that would be very complicated with a big learning curve but I guess not? I just wanted to make sure I can do what I can to be prepared

I'm not super tech savvy so I guess for a specific question, I heard iPhones are the best for face tracking which I already have thankfully. How does that work exactly? Do you sync your phone and laptop together somehow? Am I supposed to buy a stand or something so I can comfortably use my phone in place of a webcam?

>>9292943
Well I won't be streaming I make more traditional style content, but I didn't know about OBS but it looks like it'd be useful so thanks for telling me about it

>> No.9293254

>>9293181
>OBS
just make sure you use OBS Studio. and not Streamlabs OBS. SLOBS is bloated with a bunch of extra crap and many plugins don't even work on it.

>> No.9293511

>>9293181
>vtubing looks like it'd be something that would be very complicated with a big learning curve
it's just streaming with a picture in the corner. everything that you can learn with webcam streaming applies to vtubing. it can be as complicated as you want to make, or as simple as just hitting "Start Streaming" in OBS and going live.

>How does that work exactly? Do you sync your phone and laptop together somehow?
i'm not sure what you're asking for here. if you're talking about the tech behind the iphone camera, it shines infrared dot matrix on your face and records your facial features using that. which is something android phones and standard webcams don't do.

that data is converted into an API which can be read by facial tracking software like VTube Studio for live2d rigged models or VeeSeeFace/Luppet for 3d models. that also requires the models to be rigged properly so that it knows that the data for opening your mouth makes the model's mouth move too. but you really don't need to worry about that as a streamer.

>> No.9296385

Hey anons, got started recording gameplay thanks to my oshi inspiring me, voice only for now but will eventually become a chuuba. How did you guys design your own chuuba and what was the best way to get an artist to understand your vision?

>> No.9296790

>>9296385
>How did you guys design your own chuuba
I don't remember, I think it was practically fully-formed in my mind
>and what was the best way to get an artist to understand your vision?
I made my own with photoshop and stock photos, idk how to work with artists, probably give them a lot of references and write a lot about how the character will act and look? I heard some artists like it when commissioners come with a shitty MSPaint drawing to help the artist see what the client wants to see

>> No.9296961

>>9296790
Aight I got the shitty ms Paint down for now, aside from that just going to do some more gameplay commentary VODs so I can up my keeping the room alive skills, thanks anon

>> No.9297801

>>9296385
artists work best the more specific you can be, get a lot of references for what you envision your character to look like

as a random example, you want your character to have eyes like nia from TTGL but the hair design and color of asuna from SAO and school girl clothing from DDLC

that's specific and it makes it easier for them to work with

you also have to keep in mind your chosen artist's style and what their strengths are

>> No.9299937

I heard modulating your conversational voice makes it more appealing and adds personality to the affect. I also know a lot of indie vtubers have a flat affect and it makes them sound bored or even passive aggressive.

What sort of reps should I be looking at?

>> No.9300017

>>9299937
redpill me on vocal performance theory

>> No.9300046

>>9287302
Yeah there's a massive pile of uninteresting looking designs and personalities behind them out there. Still some gems intermixed but they need dug out.

I hope to myself that my voice and design aren't directly contrasting or too boring, I went with the rather nice and simple yet appealingly distinct look. Soon to be a year in and things are good, might play RE Village with a flight stick again to celebrate my anniversary.

>> No.9300136

>>9296385
i slapped together a bunch of stock images and got it rendered for cheap by an artist i thought did some decent character design. then i took that piece and gave it to a model artist to draw it in their style.

>> No.9302322

carpet or hardwood for streaming?
I'm thinking carpet to reduce sound, but it might reduce clarity too.

>> No.9302367

>>9296385
I haven't started streaming yet cuz I'm waiting on equipment, but I gave my artist a Google drive folder with a bunch of clothes, art of the aesthetic I wanted, and a 2 page profile on my character and they've already gotten back to me with a decent sketch. Still need to give feedback on what I want changed and I'm still thinking of how to make the outfit better, but I like it so far

>> No.9302633

I think people who practice stage acting or voice acting have better chance of capturing the audience.

>> No.9302878

>>9302322
Carpet, audio can get really messy really fast especially with computer hardware running in the same room if you have room to echo.

>> No.9302945

>>9302633
>People who professionally practice being entertaining have a better chance of entertaining the audience
Shocking

>> No.9303930

So my apartment has pretty much all the AC units for part of my building on the other side of the wall I have my setup on. I don't think you can hear it much at all but I'm thinking of buying soundproof foam anyways. Thing is, part of the wall is taken up by a window and I'm wondering if I should invest in some blackout curtains as well. Do those actually block sound out that much?

>> No.9304442

>>9303930
Look up rtx voice or obs noise suppression (solution for now)

>> No.9304672

>join a discord for western vtubers
>lots of larping and vtweeting
>half of the discussion is just redesigns and lore discussion
>ask how many of them actually stream
>get banned from discord for "Harassment and Hate Speech"
?

>> No.9304702

>>9304672
post logs

>> No.9304779

>>9303930
"soundproof foam" only reduces reverb in the room, nothing else. it won't help. thick curtains will work better

>> No.9304967

>>9304672
>go into discord
>see people clearly displaying red flags
>ask them an antagonistic question
>w-why did i get banned?

>> No.9305326

>>9304967
>asking if anyone in a discord about western vtubers actually stream is """""""antagonistic"""""""
you can't keep me banned. i'm already making alts to get back in.

>> No.9305513

>>9305326
its antagonistic because you clearly know the answer already and are provoking them.
and now you're going back in to provoke them again.

i mean have fun shitposting as you will, but don't come here acting like you're being wronged when you're purposefully going in there to be retarded.

>> No.9305736

>>9305326
you were banned for being dumb as fuck

>> No.9305760

>>9304779
That's good intel, thanks. I think the windows are the bigger issue overall so I'll look for some good curtains(maybe at home depot or sumthin)

>>9304442
I'll look into that as well. Is the RTX thing an RTX card related thing? Cuz I'm on a 1660ti

>> No.9309604

Should I invest into L2D before upgrading my microphone? I am PNGchuuba and I have finally finished drawing my model! I thought of getting a new microphone but i can only afford one thing.

>> No.9309746

>>9309604
what does your current mic sound like?

>> No.9309910

>>9309604
if you drew ur model why dont u also try to rig your own model, then you can buy a microphone too

>> No.9309946

>>9309746
People don't complain about its quality, but its still creating troubles by being quiet with my already soft and quiet voice. My current microphone is also not really a microphone but a headset and it's material is showing its age now...

>> No.9310268

>>9309946
>being quiet with my already soft and quiet voice
a new mic won't change your voice

>> No.9313522

>see a 1 view vtuber on youtube
>join stream
>downvote
>leave

>> No.9314276

>>9313522
poggers

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