/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

What hate? No one but one guy on this board pretends to hate her.

>>924905
meds.

>>924897
Half and half

PERIOD.

Yes.

>>924897
From a couple of idiots who can't understand what entertainment is? Why does it even supposed to matter? Those are the same people who come to reaction videos and complain on the guy commentating on what he thinks.

No. People hating her for having generic NPC opinions are silly, women always adopt whatever beliefs they view as the most socially acceptable within their circle.
If you were to date her you could easily redpill her.

Is this the fifthiest "does Kiara deserve the hate" thread since this board's inception? Someone should make an anniversary post.

>>924924
>>924958
>>924983
Can you link to any posts containing real Kiara hate and not just bantz? You guys are so sensitive.

>>924897
idk about her but you deserve it OP.

>>925012
Based

>>924897
Yes, I won't forgive her for the Shion tweet
>>924905
>it's just one guy I swear

>>924984
>If you were to date her you could easily redpill her.

Can't I just knock her up instead?

>>924993
Just yesterday her obsessed stalker was shitposting about how she got raped and got banned for it
The funniest thing is that he actually said "not even her anti btw"

>>925049
are implying actual "librarian" posted here?

>>924897
I mentioned in thread #523809 we had about this.
I dont think shes a bad person, I think she has a shit attitude. She comes off as every theater (or voice actor) bitch who had ONE break and now thinks they are at the top and you should be glad they acknowledge you. She probably doesnt even realize she does it half the time, but she makes almost everything about her and her problems even at the expense of others. Shes the kind that would say "oh im sorry your dog died, my dad died too, it was really sad." without any fore thought into what she just said or why it may hurt the other person.

So many schizos on this board will automatically go for the "hur shes playing around" or "hurr obviously the others are ok with it if they never call her out lul" as if that somehow makes what she says any less shit or as if the other girls dont wait until AFTER the stream to chew her out, yknow, like actual professionals.

Again, I dont think she is a truly awful person who deserves the gallows, but, she is obviously very egocentric and whether or not she understands that is anyones guess.

>>924897

Puritan haters are gonna hate. The block button is your hater troll blocking friend.

>>924897
No, I'll still be filtered by the voice she puts on.
If she ever dropped it I would probably watch.

>No one is able to link to any actual hate posts
>Thread is just a failed attempt at a pity party
You guys are behaving like tumblrinas.

>>924897
Yes.

>>925147
Do some reps you literal brainlet

>>924897
Until she does reddit meme reviews, no.

No.
She literally hasn't done anything bad. The only thing that barely passes as a problem was her leaching on Pekor, but she stopped, after realizing it was a problem
Still, she gives off stacy vibes, and has 0 sex appeal, so I don't watch her

>>925147
Find archive of her debut and first stream, you'll find half of the thread hating her

>>924897
Nene loves her.

>>925247
Stacy vibes?

>>924897
No. Honestly I don't like her content but I don't get the hate either. Some cheeky bantz like wrestling references is alright to me but there are people that completely froth at the mouth whenever they see the color orange and that is something I can't understand.

>>924897
No.
/thread

>>924897
Yes, and that's why she's entertaining.

>>926486
People say that sometimes but it is an absolute non statement that doesn’t clarify at all what they mean. It is a bad meme. Last time I asked the person said it was it meant she was a rude, domineering bitch, like the alpha cheerleader in a teen movie.

>>925757
Yep.

No

>>926551
I've always assumed it's because fags can't avoid taking in her content due to how 90% of posting happens in /hlgg/ and get angrier and angrier to a sad degree.
I also think anons really don't like how much she still panders to her JOP crowd even though there are tons of JP and only 5 EN girls.
I'm hopeful gen 2 splits up some of the gen 1 fanbases and we'll end up In a situation where fags can't hyper-focus on Kiara all the time, but who the fuck knows if that'll happen.

>>926551
People feel strongly about topics important to them. I think that if she isn’t someone you follow because you don’t like her content then you’ll have not see her when she does something bad so it is self reinforcing.
Additionally if you are exposed to the somewhat negatives side of her personality and behavior without knowing her backstory for context then it becomes easier to tip toward outright hate.

>>926486
Popular girl, full of herself, zero irony

She may be none of these things, but I can't help but perceive her like that.
Maybe it's just her voice.
Maybe I'm just a misgonistic loser who doesn't like non socially impaired people. That would explain the few retards here who hate her so much

>>924897
I don't like her design and her voice is annoying.
I might change my view on the design once she gets a new outfit I just think the idea of wearing two hats on at the same time looks fucking stupid along with the chicken drumsticks.

>>930677
The two hats thing is the least offensive thing about the entire design. The stripper skirt is much worse.

>>924897
the 3 guys who hate her and constantly seethepost about her have hated her since her roommate was an idol. dont create a false narrative with these retarded threads.

>>924897
I don't hate her but her design is not good.

No but her fans are also very defensive when she does genuinely stupid shit like try to berate Ina on stream for her superchat reading practices, in the middle of a 5 person collab. Honestly that was peak retarded Chimkin, it's a jab at a coworker's style of doing their job in front of a live audience.

>>924897
Some of it
She's not as good of a person as many think. Occasionally it shines through, like when she attacked Gura for not doing SC readings.

Yes, here are the reasons I dislike her:

1) Her character is ugly
The colors are awful. Her bright orange hair transforms into a puke green/blue. The eye color also clashes hard with the rest of the colors.
Her accessories are fucking stupid, like why does she need to hold a sword up? Shes also got those huge ugly earrings and of course the retarded double hats.
Her mouth movements are uncanny. For some reason her mouth gapes open wider than any other member of hololive.
I have no idea what her designers were thinking. Even the fucking clown character has a less complex design than kiara.

2) She is annoying
Her voice is super grading. She legit sounds like one of those cartoon wives that are intentionally annoying (marge simpson, lois from family guy). Not to mention she stole pekoras annoying laugh gimmick.
Every time I have seen her in a stream she is always screaming or talking at a super loud voice. Idk if she even realizes how loud she talks.

3) She is unfunny
Seriously idk how you people can watch her. Her "humor" is just referencing reddit and tumblr teir memes. Last time I watched her was the board game collab, and the entire time she was yelling "STONKS" over and over. Nobody else in the collab really laughed.

BUT you know what? If these were her only traits, I would be fine with it. I would acknowledge that kiara isn't for me and ignore her (pretty much what I have done with cali). However her worst trait...

4) She is everywhere
Seriously, she has forced a collab with almost every fucking member of hololive. I don't have the time to count her collab partners, but I'm willing to bet that she is on par with someone like Korone (despite kiara not being a JP or nearly as old as Korone).
She constantly calls into streams and tweets at the other members, moreso than anyone else. Like for instance that one Marine stream where Marine was obsessing over Rushia. Kiara just had to call in and make it about herself.
To make it worse, during these collabs she does a large majority of the talking. Its gotten to the point that I can't watch any collab that has kiara in it.

I could go on, but I already wasted enough time on this post. I'm just so tired of these KFP niggers constantly saying "there is no reason to hate her!!!" or "its just the same person!!!"

>>931067
Oh and I didn't even mention the forced shipping with Cali and the constant crying on stream.

All the faggots in this thread using what they don't like about her as "proof" for their case is so damn moronic.
You trying to guess "what it really means" when she does something you don't like only prove houw much of a retard you are.

>>931067
>Her voice is super grading
Her real voice is soothing af. I don't know why she went with this screeching thing she uses now
>She is unfunny
That's there you are wrong. She interacts with her viewers a lot. If you want clowns, Kiara is not for you.
>She is everywhere
Girls have the freedom to NOT do collaboration streams with her. I guess if they come or she is on their channels then they have no problem with her being there.

Maybe it's you who have a problem? You literally mentioned all her qualities that doesn't fit your ideal, therefore you hate her just for that.

>>931468
fuck, typo

i want kiara to spit in my mouth and make a disgusted face as she shows me her pantsu

>>931510
something similar to this?

>>924897
TWO HATS LOL
TWO FUCKING HATS

Okay history lesson

She's had antis since the beginning because her roommate attracted mentally ill hambeasts and trannies from /cgl/. She used to have a literal actual stalker who tried to groom gaijin idols getting them to Japan and harassing them if they don't fuck his fatfuck pedophile self. He spread rumors on a schizoblog and also manipulated her managers with fake news till she was fired (this was why her idol career ended, why she was so depressed until finding hololive etc.) People picked up the rrats from the pedophile stalker about her roommate basically.

Her starting weeks were also genuinely awful so she rubbed the majority the wrong way, even putting aside the rrats.
After she fixed her shit and improved the hate subsided and she started being accepted in the threads and growing a fanbase, starting the gigastacy meme etc., the threads during her streams started being fully positive without anti noise, people even started talked about how her antis left the threads and the general sentiment was that she isn't hated anymore (this was around October last year)

In hindsight all of this wasn't that signficant compared to the schizo shit of present day. Ame, Mori and Gura all had periods of hate or at least obsessively shitposting samefag antis.

Anyway, the anti wave resurged at the start of November. I believe it was the art stream where she drew Pekora that started it, it really got the narrative going that Kiara is "creepy". Lots of seething /hlg/ dogfuckers came out of the woodworks because they resent her for being a gaijin waito piggu that's fucking their oshis. This coincided with the infamous Subaru stalker narrative spread on 5ch just a few days later, so naturally the EOPs from /hlg/ absolutely ran with it.
Finally we had the Pekora Kiara collab near the end of November and this made the SEAniggers join in on the hate (because PekoMoona was their flagship to relevancy and Kiara "intruded" on that) and essentially team up with the dogfuckers. So the antis were effectively multiplied by 2 in sheer numbers, and it absolutely EXPLODED, threads were flooded with shitposting and obsession. Here's also where the whole "Kiara is fake/manipulative etc." rrats started, the SEAniggers came up with this originally to find ways to discredit the collab because it was successful (example being trying to make Kiara crying look creepy because EOPs didn't have subs yet).

The hate never really subsided from that point on. Famously, when holoID gen 2 debuts they couldn't stop talking about Kiara in the stickies for some reason and her name literally reached 1000+ mentions every time. I think the SEAnigger faction of Kiara antis actually heavily outnumbered the rest in the end, because every fucking anti post was with broken English. And the anti posting would always spike extremely during SEAnigger hours, it was very obvious how it came and went in waves. Not to mention the antis that got exposed as SEAniggers via twitter and leaking their own timezone.

However obviously, all of this always attracts even more antis in general, especially if they actually swallow rrats. Famous was that one guy endlessly samefag-falseflagging (literally like 12+ posts) as a KFP posting shit along the lines of "Kiara gonna surpass Gura hurrdurr" and then replying "why are chickenfags like this". He got banned and all posts from his IP deleted which exposed the whole thing, there's a screencap.

I stopped browsing the threads regularly a few months ago due to starting wageslavery again, so I dunno how it developed since then. It seems like antis just timelooped back to old doxxfaggotry now? I do think the majority of anti posts you see on this board are from a few mentally ill obsessed schizos. Anyway the most important thing to remember is that when the anti tells you some "reason" that ORANGE WOMAN BAD, they are lying 99% of the time and are actually just a seething SEAnig or dogfucker who became obsessed for one of the reasons mentioned here. For instance literally nobody gives a shit that Noel's roommate did actual porn (not a rrat). These things are never what drives an anti, lmao.

>>931473
>Maybe it's you who have a problem? You literally mentioned all her qualities that doesn't fit your ideal
I literally said
>If these were her only traits, I would be fine with it. I would acknowledge that kiara isn't for me and ignore her
And I meant it. I would be fine with her if she didn't insert herself into so many collabs. Look at the other ENs. The JPs are really friendly with Ina, Cali, and Ame. But you don't see them having a collab with 3 different JPs every week.

>if they come or she is on their channels then they have no problem with her being there
Because kiara spends all her time behind the scenes interacting with the other members. I'm not gonna say she is pretending to be nice, because I don't know the kind of person she is behind the scenes. As an audience member, it seems very manipulative.
I'm happy the other JPs like her, but its really annoying to put up with as a member of the audience.

>If you want clowns, Kiara is not for you
Oh fuck off. She constantly screeches out jokes that never land. She's made it obvious that she wants a clown like streamer just like Pekora (who she imitates relentlessly). Your only argument against that is "she interacts with chat!!", yeah every hololive member does that.
Not gonna bring my oshis into this, but the members I like are way less "clownish" than kiara. Most of them just focus on relaxed streams where they talk to the audience.

>>931707
>everyone who hates kiara is a pedophile SEA nigger tranny who browsed /cgl/ 10 years ago
Have you ever just considered that kiara is an annoying person?

>>931822
>Have you ever just considered that kiara is an annoying person?
700k won't agree with you.

What's new, fags hating on the most feminine EN holo with the most attractive roommate in the company.

>>931897
Mori's roommate is better looking
t. KFP

>>931854
Not like levels of annoyance can be attributed to how popular a person is, it is a subjective thing, just look at fucking 2012 Justin Bieber everyone had a hate boner for the guy because of his "annoying" voice yet he still had millions of fans

>>931897
>most attractive roommate

>>924897
no

>>931822
People that find Kiara annoying just don't watch her. Anon was just addressing why there exists such dedicated Kiara antis.
She really tries to make any collab she does fun and exciting by clearing out the dead air and awkwardness. She can really shine in the collabs like she did with Pekora and Subaru, but it can also turn people off.

>>931822
Being an annoying person isn't enough to mindbreak people and cause them to post about that person every hour of every day.
So no, it is SEAnigger trannies.

>>931968
>no, my oshi cannot possibly be off-putting to some people. it is clear they just do not watch her content, despite the only way for that information to have been obtained is if they watched her in the first place!

>>927386
>Popular girl
She isn't.
>full of herself
She has rather terrible self esteem and overcompensates.
>zero irony
Not quite certain what you mean here. She's putting on a character and trying to be an entertainer, though her self does of course seep through and affect that.
Kiara is very socially impaired.

>>931968
>People that find Kiara annoying just don't watch her
Obviously Anon, if they find Kiara fundamentally annoying why on earth would they watch her?

>>924897
No not really, and i say that as someone that hates her mannerisms voice design and all the Takamori thing, but that's the thing i just find her to be annoying and with a horrible design that doesn't mean she should be hanged for crimes against humanity

>>931980
>all of the kiara hate comes from one person!!

>>932013
She isn't a popular girl but she desperately wants to be one. She has the wannabe popular girl attitude, which is worse

>>931897
Out of holoEN sure, out of the company? not even close

>>932004
>>932018
the sheer state of the braindead kiara antis. cant even comprehend the idea of some people having a rageboner and others having a passive dislike.

>>924897
Kiara is making crazy savings from living in your head rent free

>>932079
Gura and Mori are cuter honestly. Also we don't even know what Ina looks like.

>>932150
There's only one photo in circulation.

By virtue of her being asian she get's a +10 buff

>>932046
>NOOOOO WE ARE LEGION I SWEAR!!

>>932150
>Gura and Mori are cuter honestly
Debatable
>>932189
Ina isn't particularly cute, but to be fair her one picture is not flattering

>>932189
Is there a pic confirmed to be Ina?
Post it

>>932270
>>932208
holy fuck. this guy is so fucking autistic. kiara is making him dance like a puppet.

>>932260
>>932189
>>932311
Pretty sure I've seen the picture you are referring to and there is no way to confirm its actually her. With the other ENs we have voice proof. Dude who found that photo probably just stole it from some random korean instagram account.

>>932337

>>932392
>>932270
>>932208
everytime someone brings up valid criticisms of kiara all you do is post those same three photos like the autist you are.
So what if one random schizo hates kiara, that doesn't invalidate all the other people who hate her. Take this thread for instance, there are 44 unique posters.

>>931854
im subbed due to unity, but even I agree she's annoying and barely watch her anymore. I can tolerate her in collabs, but i've tried and failed to enjoy her karaoke.

From what i tried to digest at the time, Her karaoke with Calli was awful Her voice completely did not work with calli's, utterly pushing out calli's voice and leaving only her standard grating sing screech.

Her holotalks are ok, if not too newfaggy and occasionally hostile sounding (with regard to Friend's appearance).

Miko's wasn't that bad though, but I think that's just because Miko can get along with almost anybody.

>>932004
based model mikochi....

>>932374
Oh shit for real? Truly my oishi is the strongest

>>932446
45 now. 44 defending Kiara, and one person attacking her.

>>932374
There are a few photos out there, but the one with glasses is backed up by video of her graduation from a university in Canada Vancouver?). I forget where exactly, but it confirmed her appearance to me.

Also cutest roommate has been confirmed to be mikochi, and this is commonly acknowledged by the JP side too.

>>932732
Nene, Miko, and Rushia are my favorites.
Also I did see that graduation video and I thought Ina was cute.

>>932732
>(Vancouver?)

Anyways sort of surprised the vid isn't more common knowledge, but i've forgotten the link to it anyways and don't remember actual college name because she looks like your standard asian, nothing special, not ugly either.

>>925104
>Shes the kind that would say "oh im sorry your dog died, my dad died too, it was really sad." without any fore thought into what she just said or why it may hurt the other person.

Anon you are one delicate bitch holy shit. I'd say the same trying to empathize with that person.

>>932851
Sorry anon but I have to tell that that would be a really autistic af response

>>932851
anon...

>>931957
who is this?

>>925104
>>932851
Kek, it seems that fans being similar to their oshi is not a "Myth"(get it?).

I don't watch her unironically because of her fanbase and also the few tweets that's so tone death/coincidence/not her first language/german sense of humour or whatever the next reason her KFPs make for her every time those kind of tweets come out and gets shit for. And I'm being generous because I only felt that way after the third time. I think tactless is the word I'm looking for, not malicious.

>>924984
>/pol/acks unironically think like this

>>932885
>>932910
Bitches

>>932732
>>932778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euKZttNk468

Is this the video you are referring to?
If that girl truly is Ina then she does have a typical Korean gook face but she's definitely not ugly and her personality is still god-tier.

>>933062
oh fuck they have their own clips now.

That's the right clip, but I was referring to the literal graduation video where the clip was from.

>>932732
Post the miko one

>>924897
Deserves? I don't know. But she does herself no favors most of the time.

>>924984
I don't like her because she's not entertaining, everything she does feels forced, she seems to have picked up on/mastered the art of sympathy simping and she hates Ollie because people compare the two of them and she's clearly insecure about it.

>>930932
This, I wont say Kiara is god awful but she does have egocentric tendencies and is an instigator, all qualities shown in that same 5 person collab

gotta admit though, it was funny as shit how it flew over Ina's head so hard to the point where Gura thought she was being called out

>>925104
She's not a bad person insomuch as she doesn't do things that are horrible. But yeah she's a bitch. It's why her best stuff is when she tends to get huffy and fall into bitchy Stacey mode. When she's doing that she's not forcing anything, she's being closer to her real self which is a bitch and, ironically, it makes me like her more. When she's trying to be the genki kawaii aidoru or focing TakaMori or whatever that's when she sucks because that's not what she is and it's incredibly transparent.

>>933709
>gotta admit though, it was funny as shit how it flew over Ina's head so hard to the point where Gura thought she was being called out
It didn't go over Ina's head. She laughed because it's true and she doesn't care about Superchats. The only one who was confused, was Gura.

>>933568
This, haters target her specifically because she's extremely vulnerable. Can't say that it's her fault, but if she were smarter 90% of the hate towards her would dissappear.
It's not like Coco's antis who are being paid for every spam thread.

>>933709
>>933868
>>930932
Timestamp? I fell asleep midway through that collab and missed it

>>933872
She literally admitted on stream that hate comments on stream get to her. She's dense but I appreciate her sincerity.

>>933499
no, do your own reps.

And before you find it/ask, the JAV pic is from an anti narrative from a while back thats already debunked.

>>933868
Fair, i wasn't sure what the right wording was for that moment but it was still funny how little she cared about an off hand comment that it confused Gura and was at least somewhat acknowledged by the other EN girls

>>933868
Ina, unlike ki*ra, is actually professional and confident enough to not over-pander to her audience.

>>933647
this is new to me.

Evidence she hates Ollie?

>>925104
>shes not a bad person she just have shit attitude

excuse me?

>>931067
The last one that break the straw is when she barge in during peko mama reveal, what a fucking slut at that time i just hate her so much

>>931148
Yeah that calli kiara ship are fucking cringe and annoying, i always saw that comments everywhere on ollie stream

>>931067
Remember early on where she was having issues with her capture card and called Ame on stream to have her do tech support for her even though Ame clearly didn't want to be doing it on stream in front of thousands of people? Kiara can have low self-esteem or went through some bad shit years ago but that doesn't change the fact that, inherently, she's a very self-centered person. She doesn't seem to care if she says or does things, whether on purpose or not, that annoy other people or make them feel bad or drags down collabs. She has to be the center of attention and things have to go her way. If the former isn't the case then she forces attention on her. If the latter isn't happening then she gets pissy. Remember either the first or second collab where she got eliminated early in a few games and then spent the rest of the stream sulking and grousing and half-assing?

KDF will take issue but honestly I think her low self-esteem plays a part in that. She has low self-esteem so she craves praise and positive attention and winds up being overly sensitive and insecure and at times lets her negative qualities take over.

>>924984
Hyde, get off this board and turn yourself into the police, you can't keep getting away with it

>>934263
Anon.. literally all the KFP will immediately agree that Kiara has self esteem issues. People aren't perfect. That still doesn't deserve the MASSIVE hateboner some people have with her.
I could easily start going off about some meh aspects about the other girls but the simple fact is that most people accept and/or ignore them. Don't try to justify overblown hate with a minor personality issue.

>>933928
Whenever I hear a streamer say stuff like that my brain instantly assumes they are pretending to seem vulnerable to pander.

I don't hate escort girls like kiara, it is an honourable profession. especially if you try to survive in japan as a girl with no connections

>>934469
She said it the day after breaking down crying on stream because people were going ballistic about how she should pack her pc.

Tries too hard, when she is not overdoing i like her a lot more.

Also iirc a lot of people from /cgl/ are salty because she posted there and "made" it

>>934439
She deserve it, if she keep her low esteem to herself then none of these people would hate her.

Yes

>>934004
She has a tendency to just get kind of pissy when Ollie's brought up in general. Made fun of her for falling asleep on stream yesterday and was going "wow how do you even do that" and when people brought up Mori did something similar started backtracking and saying that was different. When Ollie was starting out she sent memes and shit over Discord to her senpai and Kiara was the only one who didn't respond, only doing so after Ollie told the story about the Discord memes and fans brought it up to her at which point she half-assed a response.

KDF will say that it's all just jokes or whatever but given how Kiara is if they're jokes then they're jokes rooted in truth. My rrat is, given how insecure she is, she takes the comparisons between them to heart and gets irritated about it. I was mostly exaggerating. I don't think she HATES Ollie but I don't think she particularly likes her either.

>>934693
>Made fun of her for falling asleep on stream yesterday and was going "wow how do you even do that"
She's right, it was a cringe fake

>>934469
I could imagine that with others but it definitely gets to Kiara. A couple months back, her roommate went on a rant about how places make stuff up about her and how she tries to forget about how some places on the internet absolutely despise her. There's also the time where she mentioned how before she knew what Among Us was, when she first saw memes, she thought they were calling her an imposter among EN. There's also more subtle things, like where she'll bring up a point from a comment that upset her, for months afterwards. To this day, I'm convinced she so insistent on live translating for Holotalk to prove that one guy wrong, that her ability to translate is an actual skill.

>>934820
It really is desu, knowing the language is only 50% of live translating. The fact that she can actually remember everything someone said after talking for like 5 minutes and convert it on the spot is pretty impressive.

I once did live translation training for English and this shit was the hardest fucking thing, it requires an absolutely insane amount of focus. Doesn't matter if you know the language well.

>>930932
details?

>>924897

I dont dislike her, she has some really positive energy but something in her just rubs me wrong. Indeed, I can agree she does act and look self centered. I do even recall some instances which I know that were not intentional, but still:
> "Goodbye 300k vtuber" - on the Among us Polka Stream
> Attention seeking on Marine and Pekora mama streams
> Building the KFP in the Nether where Ina literally did all the work while Kiara just stood there playing with her chickens
> Most of the collabs are on her page

I do think she would work well with Ollie though as they have a nice senpai-kouhai vibe.

I also did enjoy her Sims 4 stream, was actually fun to see someone picking that game.

I think she needs to find her own style really as she relies too much on other holo gimmicks (Pekora laugh copy, takamori). She could focus on teaching and cooking streams too as she has potential on those.

Just to add here, her design looks ridiculous and is due to a revision, the two hats, color scheme, sword and shield or holding two chicken legs for an idol is just too dumb.

>>935144
> "Goodbye 300k vtuber" - on the Among us Polka Stream
It's Polka's own meme you stupid EOP nigger

>>935413
Still demonstrates how socially unaware kiara is. There were a lot of EOPs who were watching that stream and completely unaware of the joke being referenced. To them it looks like kiara is being a numberwhore.

>>935453
>why didn't she think about the poor EOP schizos who will invent narratives!!
Nice cope. Everyone should be a quiet autist like Gura, that worked out so well in Among Us.

>>935453
>You can't use memes/references/jokes if they may offend someone who doesn't get the reference
Fuck the rrats about kiara's roommate being an SJW or whatever the fuck, this is some twatter-tier "muh feels" faggotry

>>935453
>so what if she didn't do anything wrong, she still did something wrong because some people perceived her as doing something wrong
The absolute state of Kiara antis

>>935492
She should just think before she opens her mouth, its not that fucking hard.

>>935532
>>935562
Maybe she could have explained the reference so she didn't look like a cunt????

Its also hilarious how many of KFP niggers are lurking this thread. Instead of responding to the other comments with genuine criticism you gang up on low hanging fruit remarks

>>924897
yes. do some digging and you'll come to find her roommate is a genuinely terrible person. that's all I'll say about kiara.

>>935601
>Maybe she could have explained the reference so she didn't look like a cunt????
She only looked like a cunt to you retard

>>935601
>Maybe she could have explained the reference so she didn't look like a cunt???
Or maybe the onus isn't on a streamer to have to pause to explain every joke they make just in case you don't remember/never saw the old joke it's referencing? It's not their job to calm down autistic tantrums like yours because I DOOONT GET IT REEEEEE
>Its also hilarious how many of KFP niggers are lurking this thread.
Literally not even a kiarafag, it may (that is to say, will clearly) surprise you to know that not all people camps in their favorite "let's bash X" or "let's talk about how much we wanna fuck Y" threads, and instead just sees bad takes like this in threads that are on page 0 and call them out.

>>935144
> "Goodbye 300k vtuber" - on the Among us Polka Stream
referencing polkas meme
> Attention seeking on Marine and Pekora mama streams
She and marine get along so why shouldnt they interact? Pekora had her twitter feed open and her mother spotted Kiara in the Twitterfeed, so it is very far fetched to assume Kiaras intention was to get noticed because she wouldnt know that Pekoras Twitterfeed is visible to her mother in that moment.
> Building the KFP in the Nether where Ina literally did all the work while Kiara just stood there playing with her chickens
Who cares about the building at the end? You are watching for the process and the interaction while it gets build.
> Most of the collabs are on her page
because she is the one organizing them and making them happen in the first place. Also she organized the last full EN collab, but placed it on inas channel because it was art related.

>anti thread
>full of roommate posting
why am I not suprised

>>935704
Ya know, I gotta say, not a huge kiara fan and her attitude rubs me the wrong way, but I also just don't like extroverts in general. But there's no question she's putting in significant work, or at least being written by management's narrative decision to be doing so, into really bridging the audience gap between JPs and ENs, and being sort of the glue of EN in terms of group unity.

>>935754
Samefagging:
I also am not super big about fbk. But I can respect her hustle for forcing more group cohesion and reliably making tons of content. Just to put my reluctant admiration for kiara into perspective

>>924897
no
i am CONVINCED that all the hate this girl gets is because of her joking around with the whole KFC chicken thing
not only is orange in general a bad color for a design since it sends a signal of danger(should have been yellow for optimism and chicken) but her whole KFC CHICKEN joke that was made from a completely innocent angle was taken up by some people as "this is a waifu for NIGGERS"
i saw this comment several times and i swear this is the reason people hate her in general, fucking kfc man

I will cum inside all of you if you don't stop the chickenhate. Isn't it literally a rule here that you can't single out vtubers for flamewars?

>>935601
>IT'S HER FAULT SHE DIDN'T FEED ME THE MEDS
kek

>Its also hilarious how many of KFP niggers are lurking this thread.
It's hilarious how you're having a meltdown because you were made to look like a fucking retard schizo crying over literally nothing and are now desperately damage controlling.

Oh boy, another of these threads, huh? Very well, here's my two cents:

So first off, I'm a fan of Kiara. A fan, not a KFP, I can't afford that at the moment. A fan meaning that whenever more than one EN streams, I find myself gravitating towards Kiara unless someone plays a game or does something that genuinely interests me.

Here's some points I find noteworthy:

>Her 'chicken' voice
It's been talked to death (heh) and many seem to dislike it, but I personally don't mind or even like it - to me it's weirdly cute and fitting whenever she gets excited, flustered or live-translates.

>Her fanbase
The titles are questionable, the rp (unless done in good taste and at an appropriate time) is cringe. But looking at some more Kiara-friendly threads (which includes /hlgg/ at times) most of her fans/employees seem pretty chill.

>Her design and lore
It's an acquired taste for sure, but I've come to like it. For all its' flaws, it represents Kiara rather well. I don't mind the mishmash of themes, though admittedly she might benefit from another costume/a redesign that conveys who she is more clearly.

>Her personality
I'm an introvert, but I like her bubbly personality very much. She is like that one friend who gets you into all kinds of shenanigans, but even if you get punished for them, you still can't find it in yourself to regret them or be very angry with her. I get that her extroversion might be offputting or seem insulting and such for others, but, weirdly enough, it isn't for me.

>Her streaming content
Her and my tastes don't align. At all. I've never played the Sims 4, I've never played Ryza etc. etc. But she still finds ways to make what she does enjoyable. This is mainly due to my next point.

>Her 'skills'
I think one thing few ever considered before is that Kiara is such a great conversationalist even the people who dislike her cannot deny it. When she goes on a tangent, I always felt like she was taking me along into her world(-view), and this undeniably fills a lot of otherwise dead air and makes otherwise mediocre or even bad stream contents worth the while. Besides, she truly isn't the best gamer, though I think she has potential and trying out new kinds of games and the like sooner or later could benefit her.

>>935824
Every time someone mentions her orange color making people mad I have to remember that Scrubs scene
https://youtu.be/Y02RJO7Y4g4?t=45

Kiara hate has really dropped the past couple months, are you guys even trying anymore?

>>935899
The SEAnigger schizo keeps getting banned now so he probably got lazy spamming hate threads.

>>935862
KFP here, I think her outfit is fucking horrible but the lore is fine. Chicken voice is okay I don't like or dislike it but I will admit it doesn't really make you gosling. Hate that she keeps it for karaoke.

I think her personality is her strongest point, it's so varied. Sometimes she's just super genki and positive, other times she's a whiny baby getting bullied by chat, other times she's a smug gigastacy, I like all of them. But I enjoy smug gigastacy mode the most.

The game choices are shit but I don't really care that much. I pretty much only watch her for the SC readings and tangents during games. She's so fucking terrible at games she could be playing the best games and it still wouldn't matter that much. But her smalltalk skills carry her so fucking hard.

Also I love how close she is to chat, she knows all of their names and even if they change the names she still recognizes them. And she's comfortable enough with the regulars to call them little shits or say "not funny, get outta here!" and stuff like that, I love it.

>>933047
That's something that you will never get anon

I don't get why would you watch Kiara when there's Ollie,who does everything Kiara does but undeniably better.

>>935144
As people pointed out, the 300k sub vtuber thing is an old polka meme where she used that as her defense when she was caught as an imposter. Kiara didn’t do anything much wrong, it isn’t that funny but it does show she pays attention to her senpais content and jokes.
It points to a larger issue though in that Kiara has developed a reputation due to a pattern of behavior. Because of that, people no longer give her the benefit of the doubt and are quicker to read rudeness into things even when it isn’t there. A bit of boy that cried wolf situation, where there have been so many individual occasions of possible rudeness that people no longer believe that it is just a misunderstanding, even if it is. It is unfortunate but it means she would need to work extra hard to reverse that sentiment.

>>936207
because ollie is a nigger

>>935862
>Her fanbase
Her fanbase is as thinskinned as Mori's.

>>935899
I think it has mostly been discussed to death. She is divisive but no one is going to change their position anytime soon.

>>936207
If she was European instead of Indonesian, people would think that she's even worse than Kiara. She does everything Kiara does but harder, more obnoxious. Plus some actual yabs.

>>936318
Are deadbeats thinskinned? I didn't see many go schizo mainly because Mori gets very little hate

>>936211
>people no longer give her the benefit of the doubt and are quicker to read rudeness into things even when it isn’t there.
Sorry, only way I can read this is
>A bunch of spergy retards have to overanalyze everything kiara does and presume malice and/or ulterior motives in everything she says and does because of their preconceived notions

>>935832
I think the rule is that you can’t brigade hate and harass the vtuber themselves. So saying you dislike them on /vt/ is okay, but going to their streams or tweeting at them or worse to attack them is no good.
That is how I see it anyway, but I have seen people banned for trolling (though usually for defending Kiara rather than attacking her from the screenshots posted).

>>936211
>>936405
Yeah that's actual anti behavior by definition.

>>931968
This is autistic, you KFP niggers literally reee in these threads at anyone who just doesn’t like your chicken

>>935453
It was a meme from Polka playing AmongUs with actual EOPs you fucking mong.

>>936382
>I didn't see many go schizo mainly because Mori gets very little hate
Oh newfagchama...

During the time when Kiara wasn't being hated (September-October 2020) Mori was the designated hated Holo in the threads and had schizo antis nearly as bad as Kiara's. Individual shitposters and doxniggers (Ayamefag) constantly obsessing over her, relentless samefagging confirmed by mods, the whole deal.

You heard the same argument back then too, "durr Deadbeats are so sensitive!"

>>924897
The hate she gets is much less than what she actually deserves.

>>936405
That is one way of saying it, though phrased in a biased way. It is a natural human reaction and a part of developing a reputation, for good or ill. It was even one of the points raised by Shii in his essay on anonymity.
Once you get a reputation of being rude, people will see you that way even when you aren’t being rude. They will pay more attention to rude actions that reaffirm the belief as well.

>>936547
She deserves being doxxed and harassed for not being entertaining enough for you or daring to have normie opinions?

>>936500

Autistic is the need to post anti-Kiara threads every single goddamn day. Normal people just don't watch instead of going reeeee.

>>936547
Do elaborate why you think she deserves more hate.

>>936547
>t. schizo who's mad that he only gets like 2 other people to concur with his autistic rage-fuelled rrats

>>936565
You’re not wrong about that, but I find her defenders as autistic if not more for taking the bait than the retard who makes the thread specifically to make you guys Reee

>>936545
Just so you know, the guy who you are replying to isn't the one who posted>>935862

With that being said, you may be right about the thin skin. It's actually become a bit of a joke among KFP as well - I recently sawn image with 'The commandments of KFP' and rule 1 was 'We take everything seriously and always. Even to bait. Especially to bait.' or something like that.

>>936564
No, she just deserves to be graduated with no explanation. I hope Yagoo pulls a Gyari on her.

>>925112
I love her dumb accent

>>932851
> I'd say the same trying to empathize with that person.
That's pretty autistic of you.
t.have mild autism

>>936563
So you should completely change who you are as a person, the way you talk, the jokes you make and the values you hold, in the hopes of pleasing a vocal minority? Nah, fuck that, I'd rather she be perceived as a bitch by 80% of the chuuba audience but has a loyal 20% (or whatever, obviously a bunch of hypothetical numbers) rather than be forced to change herself into a generic kawaii uwu saccharine seiso nice girl to 'win back' sperging retards who project their lack of social awareness onto her and will never like her because of it. Because you know the moment she tries to change her personality, antis will start screaming WOW SHE'S NOT BEING GENUINE WHAT A VAPID SHALLOW WHORE

If there were legitimate things to hate her for, antis wouldn't need to make shit up to find reasons to.

It's as simple as that. 99% of roommate shit are rrats they "coincidentally" can never provide evidence for, the few attempts at criticizing her for actual things her character has done end up being nothingburgers like the 300k Polka thing that is only offensive to literal unironic schizos.

>>936545
Sounds terrible. Happy to be a newfag.

>>936739
But people have already explained what they dislike about her life in this thread. The reasons given are quite diverse.

>>936545
>During the time when Kiara wasn't being hated
Kiara's literally gotten hate since debut. Mori hate did increase after the membership reveal and the podcast, but Kiara hate was always prominent.

>>936645
>I'd rather she be perceived as a bitch by 80% of the chuuba audience
Ok well then you shouldn't be shocked to hear that a good number of people dislike her.

>So you should completely change who you are as a person
She's a streamer putting on a character, she does this already. I swear some of you forget that its a person playing a character

>you know the moment she tries to change her personality, antis will start screaming WOW SHE'S NOT BEING GENUINE
Yes, if she radically changed her personality then it would not be genuine.

>>937011
>Yes, if she radically changed her personality then it would not be genuine.
Okay cool so you agree then that there is zero impetus for her to change at all just to satisfy anti schizos like you? Cool, glad we could figure that out together.

>>936938
It wasn't. During those months there were no anti posts and people kept posting about how "chickencoin is rising", and the common narrative was that the antis moved to another target (iirc it was Ame first, then Mori after). Feel free to look in the archives.

The antis only returned in November after the drawing stream where she drew Pekora which triggered dogfuckers from /hlg/. It reached its current state when the Pekora collab happened because all the SEAniggers jumped on the hate train because "muh Moona"
It's not a meme that most of her antis are SEAniggers, it literally started then and there.

I like her, But i can see why the hate exists :(

>>932392
>It's a samefag
>Noooo, it's lolcow
>It's /cgl/ for sure
>It's /hlg/, just beleb me guys
KFPs are honestly more schizo than actual Kiara antis and that's saying something.

>>937051
I just want her to be less annoying during collabs and stop forcing herself into streams where she doesn't belong.
I could care less about her if she was just contained to her own channel with the occasional collab. I dislike cali, but I don't make posts about cali because she just stays within her own bubble.

>>936563
The problem with this idea, for Kiara specifically, is that it implies that there was ever a time when people didn't read things like that. Since literally week one, people have done this. The real problem, is that once people have a certain perception of a person, they tend to read everything they do in a way to justify that perception.

>>937076
Kek. She even had to disable comments on her roommate channel because tards with "KFP" in their names kept spamming the comment section.

>>937066
nice fanfic, seanig

>>937117
>>I dislike cali, but I don't make posts about cali
>Implication being that kiara's "transgressions" ARE "worthy" of antiposting
There's a LOT of chuubas -I- don't fucking like, yet never have I ever felt obligated to go talk shit about them because other people liked them. I'm not such a fucking autist that I drop my spaghetti at the thought that someone enjoys something/someone I don't and have to dig into the philosophical underpinnings of why it is other people like X or Y when I don't.
Like, if I really felt so inclined, I'd shitpost about how fucking cringe Luna's babbyshit is and how I don't get how anyone likes her. But since I'm not an edgy teenager, instead I just assume there are qualities about her that I don't care to discover that other people enjoy, and that's fine. I'll just continue to not watch her, and let other people watch her who do. It's much easier to say nothing than you imply it is, anonchama.

>>936838
There's several orders of magnitude between "dislike" and "hate" though. These threads wouldn't happen if all who dislike her would simply ignore her content and concentrate on those that they actually like.

>>936207
I like and watch both.
Both aren't perfect though.
Kiara should not let herself get triggered by the chat.
Ollie should stop her stupid stunts for attention.

KIARA DOX HAPPENING!

>>937297
>>937297
>>937297

>>937182
>no refutation
I won.

>>937319
Every day every thread

>>937202
I don't anti post, I just use these threads to discuss why I feel the way I do. As someone who dislikes Kiara, its getting really annoying seeing all the spam on here about her. There are at least 8 threads up at at time about her, meanwhile Mori, Ina, Ame, and Gura usually only have 1 or 2 each.
Also as I said in my post, Kiara does collabs all the fucking time and inserts herself into every social situation in hololive. Even if you don't watch EN you have to put up with Kiara because of how she forces herself onto pekora, marine, nene, and others. I understand that these holos may like Kiara, but that does not mean that the audience does.
As well when she does do these collabs, she makes the entire situation about her, and does 90% of the talking. Moona joined the game and Pekora wants to say hi?? NO NO PAY ATTENTION TO ME, IM THE SPECIAL GUEST!!!
If you dislike Luna you can just not watch her, and only put up with the babyshit for collabs. Same with Mori.
But I decided to watch the board game collab with Kiara because I liked Ina, Risu, and Reine. What a fucking mistake, first 30 minutes of the collab was kiara non stop talking explaining the rules of the game. Then the rest of it was just her talking over the other girls

>>936938
>Kiara's literally gotten hate since debut.
This. Most people disliked her scuffed mic and design during the debut stream. What really gained steam on the hate was when people found out about the virtue signalling video which was only a few hours after the debut.

>>937066
I don't need to check the archives. I was there. Kiara had a disproportionate amount of hate from the beginning. It only calmed down when a literal tranny started screenshotting things from here, and tweeting them directly at Kiara to harass her. That's the reason why Kiara antis were called trannies at first. Kiara even once referenced here as "the bad place" that hated her and how she stopped looking there.

With the exception of debut day, Ame was always the most popular girl. There was Amegeddon, but because that was dox stuff, it was deleted pretty quickly and couldn't actually be spammed.

>>937319
Didn't that person literally just get unbanned aswell?

>>937374
You do realize that it's a SEAnig anti who keeps making most of the threads here, right?

>>937374
>I don't anti post
My sides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvIGcAng4qY
>ONLY Calli?!

Why the fuck was this her reaction

>>937374
>it's a SEAnig
dios mio...

>>937466
She was jelly as fuck, even the chat noticed it immediately

>>937374
>As someone who dislikes Kiara, its getting really annoying seeing all the spam on here about her.
Can't tell if you're being intentionally disingenuous or literally that fucking blind, because even without being a kiarafag it's practically a board meme at this point that the consistent half-dozen threads are either actual antis or ironic pot-stirring children making bait threads. Or conversely, they're earnest KDF white knights going "waaah stop insulting my oshi!" or, again, pot-stirring children falseflagging as screeching kiarafags.
Again, I'll reemphasize: you could always just fucking ignore the threads, feeding neither extreme of the spectrum nor even wannabe-anarchists trying to incite arguments for no reason. But the fact that you can immediately spit out a rehearsed list of reasons of exactly why you don't like her is pretty anti. Because by comparison, using my example of Luna all I bitch about is her baby voice shit. My dislike of her is so generalized and vague because I don't even watch her just to internalize my hatred for her, unlike apparently you with kiara.

>>937480
How am I a SEAnigger? I made no grammar or spelling mistakes in my post.

>>937440
>its all one guy i swear!

>>937592
Nobody except SEAniggers cares about holoID

>>937589
So you only read the first sentence of my post?? I just explained how its impossible to ignore kiara.

>>937609
Eh, they seem like a soft HoloEn. For EOP that still want their girls to have a funny accent.

>>937466
>>937586
>Only Calli?
short for: "Was Calli the only singer?"

A for effort though

>>937609
This is why everyone hates KFP

>>937641
Just don't watch collabs with her if you hate her so much, not fucking rocket scientist.
>B-but I'm not an anti I swear! I just sperg out at the sight of her DARING to do anything with anyone else!

>>937663
I mean, Calli being the only singer should be obvious after she watched it twice, I dunno why she'd say that with that intention.

>>937592
There's several telltale signs of many of the threads being made by one deranged person. Doesn't even take a mod or meido to see that.

>>937609
>Why yes I'm a KFP how could you tell?

>>937011
>A good number of people dislike her
proof?

>>937700
Did you even watch the damn video yourself, that you posted? She clearly said "only Calli" after the first time watching.

>>937800
The volume of threads, posts and unique IPs suggest she is very divisive.

>>924984
>be colon /pol/yp
>If you were to date her you could easily redpill her
>...And that's why Americans are actually white as HECK and Israel is our greatest ally.

KIARA DOX HAPPENING
>>937925
>>937925
>>937925

>>937955
You are obsessed

She triggers the fandoms of socially awkward girls because she stacies all over them and takes charge of the conversation. Ironically those girls have praised her for doing exactly that and making it easy to converse without awkwardness. But in the eyes of the fans the other person is made to look "bad" because their weak conversation skills get exposed.

Kiara vibes better with other extroverts like Subaru or Marine, or people who can at least fake being social like Pekora, because they actually shoot back with shit.
Gura is also in the category of shy people who can fake being social if they feel confortable enough, which is why SameTori was such a "surprise" success.

>>935754

uhh i really don't see Kiara as being the glue that holds EN together. Amelia pretty much has that role with how supportive she's been behind the scenes. including with tech support.

Fubuki is the same in that respect, and its why she's so respected. The pure support she shows behind the scenes, as well,even including to the detriment of herself.
Its possible Kiara is like that, but there haven't been many opportunities to demonstrate it, and she's definitely been the one being supported more often than not.

>>924897
I'm starting find her more and more attractive. Like the more annoyed she makes me the more I want to protect her.

THIS IS THE RUN-PEKO

>>938097
>nousagi in an anti chicken thread
kek based

>>938178
goddammit I came here to report shit after it leaked into /hlgg/ and left the tab opened I am sorry
probably noticed the IP tick when I posted

>>938093
In Kiara's case, she's the one responsible for a large portion of the group collabs. As the sole extrovert in the group she is generally the only one to reach out to the others. The other 4 have all said, in some form, that they don't like asking others for collabs, and usually just wait to be asked.

>>924897
No, she deserves more hate.

>>935824
>"this is a waifu for NIGGERS"
This is literally the first time I've heard anything like that. I hadn't even made the fried chicke-nigger connection.
Are you perhaps a goblino?

I hate Kiara because I started to develop unhealthy one sided parasocial relationship with her while watching. I read some shitty narratives from antithreads and took them to heart to cope with pain that I will never meet such a girl irl as she is.
I'm not even joking and I'm considering suicide this year

>>939447
I fucking hate Kiara. I want to force her down on the bed and savagely hug her and punch her in the face softly with my lips, then I want to brutally hold her as we hatefully go to sleep in each other's terrible arms.

Just to test the op. How many of you would superchat to a stream where kiara was being suffocated by farts?

>>936211
>300k vtuber
Everyone understood the reference. But Kiara already surpassed Polka in subs. Do you understand how off that sounded?

>>924897
What does it say about Kiara, that you can barely find any actual pictures of other Holo's, but you can easily find nudes of Kiara?

>>931067
Based.

>>940543
Er, you can find pictures of 90% of the hololive members if you look hard enough.

>>924984
When has she ever talked about politics

ITT /SEAgl/ general

>>935144
You forgot pic related. Her worst offence if you ask me, what a vapid cunt.

>>940543
>you can easily find nudes of Kiara
Proof it. I think you dont know, what nudes are...

>>940543
You can pretty easily find most holos. Almost all of them have past streaming experience with face cam. Kiara is just easier because jannies don’t discard her doxxposts fast enough. Also lewd cosplay isn’t nudes.

>>941406
Naked ass and tits is nudes.

>>941775
...and no such photo exists of her.

>>936242
bro please...don't say that...

>>941775
Photos of bare Kiara ass exist, naked tits, haven't seen.

>>941026
that's really awful... shion need years to reach it

>>939911
Cant believe everyone hates kiara.

>>943057
is she hot

>>941026
I really don't understand why people defend this kin of behavior.
She always make stuff about her self.

She's the only girl that everyone in the hololive thread on /jp/ would say they dislike.
Every girl has fans that have antis and fans, except for Kiara. She is the antichrist over there.

>>939583
Jesus Christ

The "300k vtuber" thing is a yab because Kiara and the rest of the gen had literally just finished mogging Gen 5 and having more subs than them. It doesn't matter if its a Polka meme, just like it wouldn't matter if Polka called herself a fucking idiot frequently and chicken did it to her in reference to that.

>>946765
Hey crybaby, you got the wrong door, twitter is two blocks down.

>>946930
Not him but
>how dare you hate my oshi for being a disrespectful cunt
Get over yourself you dumb SEAnig

>>947172
I don't even like kiara but the 300k vtuber thing was most clearly a joke. You wouldn't understand because of your crippling autism.

>>947240
See: >>941026

No one deserves hate if you dont like a certain vtuber just dont watch her/his content but this board is filled with schizos so you cant really do anything about it

>>946220
You ever seen an extrovert surrounded by a bunch of introverts? They ALWAYS come off tone-deaf as fuck. Kiara has the same problem.

>>947271
The Shion thing is definitely bad and socially unaware of her to do, but the Polka meme was completely fine, if anything Polka herself was clearly super happy to see her reference the meme

>>924897
Outside of /vt/, not really. Here on /vt/, absolutely.

>>932851
that's not a good thing anon. it reeks of trying to fake empathy

>>924897
Welp, may as well throw in my list again since people still can't understand why people dislike her.

Voice is shrill

Day one forced a gay relationship with fellow gen mate calli, and I mean pushed it HARD. Still does.

Complained about being the lowest on her very first member stream, basically watching numbers.

Other than being able to talk multiple languages (which I admit is impressive) there is nothing stand out about her.

Her content relies solely on being horny and hitting on everyone 24/7 but if calli is even nice to someone she flips shit

The games she does play really hold no interest. JRPGs are not fun stream games to watch

She can be very rude to other streamers and gen mates (example when she went full attack mode on haachama during an overcooked stream. A quick jab once or twice is whatever, but she rode it all stream and was clearly bothering haachama)

Has made several bad takes including telling people you have no excuse not knowing more than 1 language because in europe it's common to know 2 or more, thinks hololive shouldn't add any more people because she likes how it is now that she got in

Recently got upset that another song hit 1mil views before her own song.

She throws a fit if you dont' let her win

In collabs she pretty much stands off to the side instead of actually playing in certain games (example gang beasts when she sat in a corner)

(more of an opinion) the only reason she's as big as she currently is is because she played the sympathy card and gained a bunch of omega simps. She also collabs the most with the JP girls so she grabs a lot of their viewers and Calli tries to help promote her.

Her theme is shit. Warrior phoenix who wants to own a chain chicken restaurant. Makes zero fucking sense.

Fanbase is god awful. Calli mentions a girl "OMG WHAT ABOUT KIARA?!?!" "NTR" "CHEATING ON YOUR WIFE"

And recently, when she did her last stream with Nene, she went to NENE'S house but still did it on HER own channel. That's so god damn rude, but I guess she has to make to pity subs while she's flying home.

I will say to be fair, I don't "hate" her as obviously I don't know her personally, but I can say she is a very shitty person. And based on what I've been reading on her past, she was shitty before hololive as well.

>>925025
>Yes, I won't forgive her for the Shion tweet
What Shion tweet?

>>932851
oh shit... I'm the same...

>>950880
I think he's referring to >>941026

>>950950
Same

>>947271
>>950973
thanks fren

>>939472
Don't do it anon

>>950848
this is not how someone would format a list back in my day

>>952048
It was mostly copy and paste from a different place I typed it before. Just imagine it as green.

>>952152
I'll imagine myself continuing to not argue with people on this board.

>>934547
Agreed.
It seems like she's trying to force her character out instead of just flowing like the other girls do. Instead of embracing the character, she has to "act out" the character and it shows.
I don't dislike her altogether. When she isn't forcing that character and has her real moments, she's a good streamer. Just wish we got more of that.

>>945560
her body is ok, no obvious blemishes that I saw, granted she was probably using lots of makeup.

>>934040
You can have a bad attitude but not be a bad person anon.

I only wish for the antis to experience similar hatred and public shaming to put things properly to perspective for all of them.

>>947343
Subaru... Marine...

And after a day I thought this would be a different thread where people can actually discuss why she gets the hate she has, which some of you actually make good points of.

But of course it becomes a timeloop where every legitimate criticism, even normal opinions of why they get rubbed the wrong way when they gave her a chance, are lumped together as antiposting of one anon with all his smart fridges to paint them as aggressive seething or deflection of "that's why she is perfect because she is flawed so its acceptable". And you wonder why people here dislike her fanbase foremost AND by extension her as well.

TLDR: People have different taste but conflicting ones are shit, your own oshi can do no wrong but if she irrefutably does its a positive thing. And you have the gall to call the tenshimps delusional fags when you holofags are the same I see. >>932676 thanks for the laugh.

ggmen and have a good day.

>>954690
Coincidentally their collabs with Kiara have been really good.

>>954742
They also do well with introverts, and don't come off as tone deaf.

>>954734
Note the difference between dislike and hate. OP decided to concentrate for the latter like a controversythreadspamming faggot that he's been for weeks at this point.

Also i'm of the opinion her Holotalk with Miko was pretty good. Anyone disagree? If so, why? What mistakes did she make in your opinion?

>>954768
I dunno, you don't see them collabing too much with the shut-ins. It's true that they're probably more cautious with it though. Probably a cultural thing.

>>924897
>Does she deserve the hate?
nop
she cute CUTE

>>954771
Ah, so that's why there are so many kiara threads here. Thanks anon.

Kiara without the forced Takamori ship would be much more tolerable.

>>925112
I hate the voice she plays. It sounds strange and is so obviously fake. I dont feel this way towards any other vtuber, just her

>>924897
Yes.

>>954954
based

>>924897
I hate her because her existence reminds me that I will never have a qt autistic german weeb gf.

>>949459
This. Polka herself spent the whole stream trying to connect with the ENs through use of their own memes and catchphrases at every single opportunity.

The Kiara yab that still weirds me out is the 'Hey guys Mori cries in her sleep' one, though.

>>957690
German here. If there's one thing I can tell you about germanic people (meaning Austrians, germans and the like) it's that they rarely actually mean unwell. I'm pretty sure that to Kiara, 'Mori cries in her sleep' was just a simple factual statement, no judgement or malice (or any kind of emotion really) intended. To others it may come off as insulting, I get where you get that from, but if what little I know about Austrians is true, they're Germans with the autism dialed up to 11. therefore, from Kiara's perspective, the whole exchange went like this:
>fan asks a question about their quirks or whatever, don't remember what prompted it originally
>Mori gives an answer about Kiara
>Kiara gives an answer about Mori
>done

>>925247
Mass opinion has changed since her debut. It's almost like people can improve and learn from her mistakes.

Bless the cute chicken. I'm so proud of her.

You will never be a real woman.

>>925757
>lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bros... Do you think she knows about us?

KIARA IS FUCKING WHORE AND SHE DESERVES THE FUCKING ROPE I HOPE AUSTRALIA'S WILDLIFE WILL RIPS HER TO SHREDS

>>958388
Y-you too

>>958388
Show me on the doll where Kiara touched you, Anon/

>>936207
ogey

>>954673
Good to know I didn't go as low as whoring myself out to just to survive like chicken did

>>960042
Yeah, at least she didn't kiss, r-right my fellow kfps?

>>931067

>>924897
Yes.

>>960821
Abayo.

>>958106
The core element, what a lot of people dont understand is the general "directness" of german people, and translated vocabulary.
If you take a german sentence and translate it in english, it can sound incredibly rude.

>gonna quit? NO WAY! NEVER! DAME! You don't wanna do that!! I mean, please, I'm begging you. You know, I'm seeing a light of hope at this middle age, and this is the dream you have hold for long as well, right?.. ENs is just emerging, I need you all! Did you think showbiz was as such an easy deal? No, It's hard, for both you and me I mean.. Yes I had enough as well as you had, but we must go through it. It's the first attempt the human society made, and we're the pioneers. We deserve all this troubles.. I, I'll give you some bonus payment if you'd like it, so pleeeesee pleeessee stay with Kiara she needs you!!!!

>>924897
I want kiara to fucking rape me so hard I cannot move ever again. I want her to stamp on me until I cry in pain. I want her to bite me. I want her to scratch me with her nails. I want her to kick me and hit me and punch me and beat me until I am barely more than one massive bruise. I want her to cut off my fingers yakuza style every single time I disappoint her. Hell, I want her to cut off my fingers every single time I make her happy too. I want her to make me the most miserable person alive, but that's an oxymoron because I would actually be the most happy person ever. I want her to do that vietnamese torture method on me where they drip water on your face slowly for ever, but with her piss and shit. I want her to sit on me, kick me in the balls, emasculate me and animalise me. I want her to laugh at me as I suffer and mock me when I cry. I want her to starve when and eat KFP in front of me and then all I am allowed to eat is her tight cunt, and all I am allowed to drink is her squirt and piss. I want her to fuck Calli in front of me and make mecry with jealousy. I want her to strangle me, hang me until near death, burn me, flay me, flog me and put me on a fucking sex rack made of electrified red hot steel. I want her to brand me as her slave pet and use me as stool. I want her to put me in a hole under her floor in pitch darkness, the only light I get being when she opens the grate to abuse me, rape me, or piss on me.
Good God I am absolutely ragingly hard just considering what I want Takanashi Kiara to do to me. This is just a fucking INKLING of my fantasies.

I don't think she means any harm, but her first instinct seems to be to always to make things about herself, which rubs people the wrong way. Her fans probably like it, but it would help her image outside of her own fanbase if she toned that down. Like, if someone else is celebrating an achievement, just say congratulations instead of something like "hey I did that too".

>>954734
>literal anti thread
>actual discussion
I'm laffin'

putting one in the bump limit

>>924897
yes

>>945560
I love her teeth.

>>931067
they hated this anon because he told them the truth

>>967262

>>954771

cant wait to see the KFP cope when kiara debuts on holofightz
i fully expect them to say that all the hate comments on the stream is just one seanigger running a script
dont even hate that much btw but her fans on here deserve to be put down

Why are KFPs like this?
>>966732

>>967511
Are you drunk anon?

>>967716
what ? did i fucking miss the stream AGAIN?

>>967630
Everyone loves Kiara. It's just one SEAmonkey anti, guys!
https://www.strawpoll.me/42696728/r

>>924897
Is her tryhard domineering antics in collabs just rrats, or scripted skits, or are they for real?

>>967971
I have no idea what you're even referring to by tryhard domineering antics.

>>924897
The poor girl doesn't deserve any hate, her fans and antis here are the ones that are fucking retarded shitting all the threads in this board

I'm a simple man. Cute bird make me laugh. That's all I need.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCD9q_ITsvY

>>967993
I've mostly seen the actual fans stick to one threads. And then there's at least that one faggot spamming controversy. Probably made this thread too.

HUURRR DE DUUURRR HER ROOMMATE ACCOUNT POSTS BLM DUUURRRR BUURRR SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING MORONS IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS POLITICS SO FUCKING BADLY HOW ABOUT YOU GO TO FUCKING TWITTER AND MAKE A ACCOUNT AND SPREAD YOUR FUCKING ASSHOLE TO SARGON OR QUARTER POOUNDER OR ANITA SARAKAKAKANRANSEIONS OR WHOEVER THE FUCK AND GO """""DISCUSS""""""" FUCKING POLITICS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU FAGGOTS ARE GOOD FOR, GO FUCKING FEED THE GODDAMN ALGORITHM ALREADY YOU ALWAYS ONLINE ADDICTED FUCK GO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF THE SJWS OR ANTI SJWS OR BRITAIN OR POLITIC CORRECTNESS OR WHOTEVER AND GO REVIVE THE GREAT AGE OR WHOEVER THE FUCK JUST FUCK OFF AND LET US ENJYO VTUBERS IN PEACE WITHOUT YOUR POLITICAL BULLSHIT OR I'LL SWEAR TO GOD I WILL PERSONALLY FLY DOWN TO YOUR DIRTY MUDHOLE AND SHIT IN YOUR MOUTHS

BUT OOOOOOHHHHHH I'M A BIG FAGGOT BECAUSE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW TRANNIES ARE DESTROYING EVERYONE, OR HOW CHUDS ARE LOLICONS ON PEDOPHILE, I'M THE FUCKING MONSTER FOR STAYING APOLITICAL, I AM THE CAUSE OF THE DESTUCTION OF THE ENTIRE WORLD BECAUSE I JUST. WANT. TO. ENJOY. A FUCKING. CARTOON. RAGEQUIT. VIDEO. GAMES. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>968154
You KFPs are so fucking dumb

>>968173
OH I AM THE RETARD FOR NOT WANTING TO FUCKING OBSESS ABOUT POLITICS NOW AM I, HO HO HO HOW THE TABLES OF TURNED YOU FUCKWIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>968154

>>968154
This is based except for the all caps.

>>967993
This. She is just trying to entertain her fans, leave her out of this. Why always drag her into this weird KFP vs Anti fight? You dox her every day, both the Fans and Antis. Antis dox her to make her suffer, the fans reverse dox her to destroy rrats.

All in all, the one who suffers the most is the Girl who is just trying to create a better life for herself.

Imagine trying to drive a girl into suicide because she disagrees with your retard politics, or "fucks up" your collabs, or has an annoying voice or whatever the reason is why you hate her.
How about you just enjoy this 2D fanatasy waifu timeline instead? Fucking morons.

>>968404
The actual way to deal with it would be some proper harsh punishment for the antis because they definitely deserve such. But I don't see how that could be achieved.

I dont know why anyone would take Kiara's political views seriously. She is already established as not being very bright. She is very ditsy and impressionable. Its like getting mad at a child's political views.
Ive known girls who post NPC left wing nonsense online but completely shrink back and get all meek when you confront them IRL (by confront, I mean just having a cordial debate/discussion). Unless they are uppity cunts to the core, most women really dont like confrontations and they will try to meet you half way or some other wishy washy bullshit.

>>968561
99% of people don't dislike kiara because of her political views, it's for shit like >>931067
+ her retarted fanbase

>>968561
This. Most people post cringe online. Especially young girls. She made a George hashtag when the guy died, what an evil bitch. Anti white communist confirmed.

>>968608
>The victim and her white knights are to blame, not the Antis who spam this board with Kiara threads 24/7

>>968756
Yes, don't think you meant to greentext that.

>>934169
oh yeah, didn't she spam even more on twitter how "pekomama approves of her" and "she won the ship war" or something?

>>968404
based

>>968608
>>931067

yeah but I dont agree with any of those reasons either. Her design is fine. It fits her voice well. Her facial reactions are very memeable and cute.

I dont find her annoying or unfunny at all. I dont know what people are going into her streams expecting. She is very energetic and enthusiastic, but also naïve and ditsy. She has an underdog quality similar to Pekora, where its fun to see bad things happen to her in games. You're along for the ride. On top of that, I find her accent cute.

She is the only EN member who speaks fluent japanese and she lived in Japan at the time. So it only makes sense she would have as many collabs with JP members as possible. She had good chemistry with them, especially Subaru and Polka. So, I dont see the problem.

>>950848
>thinks hololive shouldn't add any more people because she likes how it is now that she got in
Did she really say this? If so, then holy shit that's embarrasing.

>>968154
Anon, according to my favourite flavour of failed 20th century political ideology, everything is political! If you don't pollute all your hobbies and get rid of your friends and family ties, you're helping the enemy!

For fucks sake, I just want to grill for this german chikn

>>969102
>Did she really say this?
Anon-kun...
90% of the stuff posted about her is rrats.

>>969102
She did say that each genereation shouldn't have more than 4 members. Heavily hinted that Ina was the odd one out in EN since takamori was a pair and guraxame was gaining traction at the time.

>>969157
I would say about 50% of things said about her are rrats at this point.

>>969253
when and where did she say this?

>>969253
Ahh another rrat. Atleast say Ame to make it more believable. Kiara said multiple times that Ina is an angel and she really likes her. Ina in her drawning stream speaking very highly of Kiara as well. She is in the chat of almost every Kiara stream.
Ame is the only one that doens't talk much with Kiara (it seems). But we don't know how much they talk behind the scenes.

>>925247
My guy, they debuted FIVE months ago. Things have changed

>>969675
changed for the worse

>>924897
yes
i unironically don't know how you watch this bitch, i watched her for a few munutes and the only impression i got that if sand belt machine could be made human it would be Kiara