/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>929557
probably never I'm afraid. Germany isn't nearly a big enough market, and most German speakers can speak competent enough English to watch EN.

Impossible because literally all Germans know English. HoloES is much more likely.

>>929818
Das glaubst du doch wohl selbst nicht.

>>929831
why the fuck would cover open a branch in Estonia

>>929557
>German division of Hololive
Imagine the scat memes. Imagine...

>>929557
HoloEN v2.0 could easily be European-based and have Kiara as their close senpai. EN's biggest weakness right now is their distance from Japanese branch

The hololive didn't happen, but it will.

>>929557
There aren't that many german speakers in the world to make this worth it.

>>929557
bitte nie
kiaras german already makes me cringe so hard and it is a brutal immersion breaker.
germoids are not cute

>>929878
eesti superpower by 2030

>>929557
Bad idea. Anything german media must have kosher party narrative. Would be boring af.

>>929922
83 million Germans and like nine million Austrians.
There are also over eight millions in Switzerland (not everyone speaks German there, but they are able to understand it)
Then there are small countries like Liechtenstein and Luxembourg as well.
On top of that you have many Japanese and Americans who want to learn German for fun as a new language.

>>930115
>English
1.268 billion speakers

>Mandarin
1.120 billion speakers

>Hindi
637 million speakers

>Spanish
538 million speakers

...

>German
132 million speakers

They'd probably go after Indians and the Hispanosphere long before you.

>>929557
Women with proper German accents make me creamy as fuck but it's not going to happen. The best we can hope for is either a dedicated HoloLive EU branch or to have more German speakers folded into HoloLive EN in subsequent generations. Spanish speakers are far more likely to get a dedicated language branch before German.

>>929831
>all Germans know English

The fuck they do, they dub everything live action into German. Fuckers can't even read their own language.

>>930115
As a generous estimate you can say there might be 130 Million German-speakers in the world. For comparison, the 2019 estimate of the number of Spanish-speakers in the world was 580 million.
That other anon is right, HoloES is more likely than HoloDU. Hell, HoloRU is more likely, since there's about 258 million of those.

I definitely understand wanting your language to get reps, but German is not a very common language. It's a borderline miracle that you have a speaker in Hololive to begin with.

>>929557
hopefully never
the German language is cringe as fuck
t. kraut

>>930433
subs are for fags

>>930378
Hindi is currently too poor to be profitable, I'd wait until India becomes a middle income country first, if China doesn't fuck them by damming all their water sources first. Spanish probably will happen though.

>>930433
We are now dubbing King covers too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzhTshmW1JU

Hopefully never. Just watch German indies to get a taste of the purest forms of cringe you'll ever encounter. GOPs are basically a bunch of 11yo weebs or Hauptschule tier retards, and it shows in the chat. Sure, you can ignore the chat, but that's the audience German vtubers have to cater to.

>>930459
your existence is cringe

>>929904
Yagoo pls, fill the dead hours.

>>930378
Remember nijiIN

too much potential for nazi vtuber which would look bad

>>930562
>Anime girl uses german name with a cape
>It's cute
>German girl uses german name with a cape
>It's cringe
Somebody explain this like I'm retarded.

>>930459
this
i only fuck foreign girls because german legit makes my dick go limp

>>929938
>>929878
EESTI STRONGEST COUNTRY! EESTI GET HOLO BRANCH! HOLO ESTONIA! ESTONIA GET BEST CHUUBAS!

Eesti super power 2030? wrong! Eesti already superpower!

>>930634
glory to Estonia
爱沙尼亚 NO.1!!!

>>930634
I LOVE EESTI <3

Thread is now Estonia thread!! we <3 Estronia!

>>930562
karen is cute tho

>>929557
As a German, no thanks. Makes me cringe.

>>930378
Another factor than population numbers, and perhaps even more important than them, is the actual composition of the market. Just because there's a lot of hindi speaking people on this planet, that doesn't mean that they've got capital to devote to donating to streamers or that they are even likely to watch streamers, much less vtubers.
Then you've got to look at the political sphere. If a country's government suddenly makes your activities illegal or strongly regulates them or is volatile in general, you might not want to develop a foothold in that country even if it might be a profitable market.
China, for example, is a huge conundrum to many expanding companies exactly due to it's government, and first and foremost to entertainment companies.

There are reasons why I personally consider a German speaking branch to be more likely than a Spanish speaking branch.
Such as the sheer amount of countries and cultures those numbers are divided in. Mexicans and Argentinians, for example not only have different dialects (that go so far that many a times, different Spanish speaking countries will produce their own dubs and translations for properties that have them in other dialects), but also just cultural differences in general.
Then there's the fact that, while yes, there is a huge parity in purchasing power depending on country of origin, the average is simply not that high.

Not that any direct, specialized branch is that likely right now outside of the asian countries that have already seen expansion.

>An Austrian leading a group of Germans
No thanks.

>>931208
The UK, Ireland and America are just as, if not more culturally different, but still manage to do fine under one EN.

The only reason Spanish might not happen is because there will be enough people but not enough money in it, and as a result it would become an IN2 where they have to appeal to the wealthier English audiences to turn a profit.

>>931484
>The UK, Ireland and America are just as, if not more culturally different, but still manage to do fine under one EN.
the EN market is not limited to those countries at all, by design even.

>>929557
Never because germoids are irrelevant and should’ve been exterminated after the war

>>929818
Dies. Außerdem ist Deutsch keine schöne Sprache.

>>929557
No because Germans are allergic to joy.

>>931520
that's my point. EN is just as, if not even more, culturally mixed than a potential ES branch would be. the argument that an ES branch wouldn't work because Spanish speakers are "just too different from each other for it to work" is ridiculous.

>>931554
Das ist falsch. Es kommt auf die Stimme an, nicht auf die Sprache. Englisch und Japanisch können auch unangenehm klingen.

>>931650
I am a native German and I have literally never heard a female German dub or a 3D girl talking to me that sounded good.
German is only good for deep voiced males who are supposed to sound threatening.

>>931718
I don't agree, but this is ultimately a question of personal preference. German voice acting in my experience is spotty at best but there are often a few actresses here and there that sound quite excellent, especially in video games and when they don't sound like old hags.
Regardless, the sound of the language is not why there wont be one (for some time). There's a HoloLive ID branch after all and all southeast Asian languages sound like ear diarrhea.

>>931650
None native, I agree and don't. I've heard appealing German, but I've heard far less appealing german compared to, say, appealing Norwegian or Italian

>>931789
Iunno man, her Indonesian's is pretty cute...

>>931789
I dare you to name even 1 (Eine) decent German voice acting performance, I'll fucking wait

>>931891
Still sounds like Pajeet speak to my ears. It's not a very flattering sounding language.

>>931801
I still believe it's less the fault of the language itself and more the talent. It doesn't seem like voice acting in Germany is taken very seriously beyond accomplishing the bare minimum of intelligibility. This is often defended by how often I see the same voices reused over and over.

>>929557
She's obviously a vanguard of holoEU. It has been foretold.

>>931718
>I have literally never heard a female German dub or a 3D girl talking to me that sounded good.
I think the problem is more that a lot of german women put on a fake voice trying (and failing) to sound assertive but instead just sound bitchy and cringe
its kind of like they all talk like Elizabeth Holmes

German Vtuber:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2cwjIGfj6k

>>929557
German is not a very flattering sounding language. I prefer my chuubas speaking English.
Also while Germany, Austria and Switzerland have lots of people who don't understand English, therefor creating a market for dubbed movies, the target demographic for vtubers, which is young adults with a disposable income, speaks English perfectly fine.

>>930562
Real Germans vs fake Germans. Everyone hates real Germans. Even Germans.

>>931101
This. Bloß nicht.

>>929557
>pic
I hate you for this, anon.

>>932723
so you prefer them sounding like drooling retards?

The demographic that would watch vtubers; young, anime-interested, affluent or tech savvy and people who already speak English in high income European countries is going to overlap too strongly to make it worthwhile.

>>929557
After HoloRU. Which is inevitable.

>>929557
>wanting to hear german speaking
I see you are not a german and just a nazi larper. germans go on the internet to escape that language and the native retards.

>>930115
Is the future of vtubing just language learning and videogames?

>>935311
maybe if you are a self hating cuckold

Is this the deutschtuber thread?
I need more german vtubers

>>931479
This ahah

>>931479
That would be funny

>>929557
Considering 20% of Germans are actual Turks and rising, I don't think it's gonna be a big hit.
A big market would be India but honestly, I don't see this happening at all.

>>929557
Seeing how Kiara is Austrian, probably not.

>>932723
the Swiss market would be extremely limited since their dialect is completely incomprehensible to anyone outside the country

>>932517
Is this one a tranny too?

>>929937
Austrian/Wiener Schmäh =/= German

>>931479
kek

>>937176
Literally the only right-sounding German accent is Franconian.

>>937113
No, but she has a Bavarian-based accent that's anything but flattering. And she constantly tells people her German got worse because at work she usually speaks Nihongo or English only. It's just an excuse for not being an entertainer/performer. It's frustrating to have her as the first and only half-decent German VTuber.

>>937201
You must be kidding anon!

>>937264
>she constantly tells people her German got worse because at work she usually speaks Nihongo or English only
that's not bullshit at all, this exact same thing happened to me.
Being a Neet that spends all his free time reading , listening to and writing shit inEnglish made me worse at my native tongue.
I have talked to other ESL anons about this and say they are in the same boat

>>930554
i like it. german sounds cool

Kiara will make her German-only streams or segments, but that's about it. Any new german-speaking talent will be purely coincidental in future EN Gens.
>>930433
>they dub everything live action into German
Yes we do, but that's because it pays well. Germany has a huge television industry and the large broadcasting agencies and dubbing agencies also license their dubs to the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria and Switzerland. Easily the largest market in Europe, even larger than European Spanish and Portuguese combined.
Nevertheless, sub-35 year olds understand English, though it is probably a bit lacking in rural areas and worse on average than it is in Scandinavia. Especially if you watch YouTube or play vidya, which covers most sub-35 year old males. 7 years of English education are mandatory for all default school paths so if nothing else, the government will make you be able to at least understand English.

>>937201
meddl loide

>>932862
Not true! We hate all people equally, especially Germans.
>>930624
Exotic favoritism. Mundane and everyday things are boring.
>>930554
Fundiert und Teutongepillt. I still don't understand what the song is about though. Is the King singing? Why do I have claws? What does she desire? Is it good to be the king?

>>930459
You must be one of those "people" Kiara talked about that insert random English into German sentences.

>>929818
Some German Twitch streamers pull 30K+ viewers every day, it's big enough to support current levels of Hololive viewership
But before that they'll probably try Hololive Spanish

>>930433
That's done for boomers and/or young children.

>>937016
Some German Turks I've met are more weeb than I am

>>929557
>GER

>>930433
Germans understand the English language very well or are at least way above the global average in proficiency.
Yes pretty much everything gets a German dub with the same 20 VAs each time. Most people my age I know prefer watching media in English tho and have no problem understanding it
There's this "EF English Proficiency Index". it's mostly bullshit but gives you some idea of how well a country can handle English

>>937355
>only communicate in English
>Native German gets worse
>still have shitty German accent
>now I suck at both languages

>>930378
>and the Hispanosphere
Hispanic internet culture is cancer and that reflects in the quality of our vtubers. I'm kinda curious if Yagoo would manage to pull it off, but I'd be surprised if he manages to find 5 girls who are actually worth watching and won't be bringing pointless drama into Hololive.

>>930459
I don't know why you guys hate yourselves so much, your language sounds better than French, especially coming from the mouth of a sexy Kraut female
t. burger who met German exchange-student hotties in high school

what if Hololive Nigeria and Hololive Germany collabed?

>>944058
>I don't know why you guys hate yourselves so much
If I give you the answer, I will be sent to /pol/

no one likes europe so never

The should seriously consider HoloAR with all the superchats in ARS they get

>>937064
the swiss market is part of the reason why movies get dubbed in german, is what I meant to say.

>>929938
ekre rahaga teeme

>>930634
EESTI LOVE
#1 NORDIC

>>930459
A small truth of the world is we always feel like our own culture is shit while glorifying other cultures since its new and not something you've known all your lives and understand it so painfully clear. Look at the chinese, they hate everyone else as much as they envy everyone else's culture with their constant culture pirating of KR, JP and the west.

I always like it when Kiara is speaking her mother tongue and always watch when Graf Karen is streaming because after I'm done learning JP I'd start german or french.

>>930433
Anon, every kraut that enters Gymnasium learns a 2nd language. Once upon a time, the first choice was French. Now it’s practically all English.

Alright, but can we all agree that hololive needs to open an Estonia branch?

>>955132
This is painfully true. I'm British, but I can play the dulcimer, frequently eat beans and cornbread, and can fluently speak hilltalk。

I've never been the Appalachia in my life, I just went through a massive appalachian phase when I was in my teens, because I heard about it and thought "wow that's so interesting and exotic!"

Its not that I dislike my own culture, I love Britain, in spite of how shit it is hear I wouldn't rather live anywhere else, its just that its far easier to fall head over heals over something more exotic and outwardly quirky

>>929895
How would scat memes come out of a German division? EN already has some scatfags while ID has some brapfags Not complaining but I blame Mori and Ollie

>>940978
Consider the amount of weebs/30k Trymacs or Montanablack viewers. I'd guess maybe 2-5k of these could be potentially interested in hololive and that's a generous estimate.

>>937016
>20%
more like 5%

>>937176
she speaks un alpinized german mostly and that is bad enough already

>>937610
Häider und drachen V-tuber
ganz gefährliches bit. pass auf das du das nicht manifestierst

>>930562
This. The problem is all the germans who aren't retards are mostly capable of understanding english and therefore have no need to confine themselves to the german vtuber/internet scene.

HololiveARA when?

>>929557
No one needs or wants this.

t. German

HoloFI when

>>931479
Based, have those future kfp employees baking chickens 24/7.

>>930115
Plus people forget that Ollie for example streams tons in English despite being of the Indo branch. Don't see why a Germoid couldn't do the same

>>932517
Jesus what's up with those eyelids

>>955132
Speak for yourself, globohomo is not a culture and I'd love to go back to the days of colonialism.

>>931718
Ich stimme dir nicht zu. Ich bin kein Muttersprachler, ich mag aber den Deutschen Synchro von Girls und Panzer sehr.
Die Authorität in Miho ihrer Stimme wenn sie Deutsch spricht klingt mir eher geil

>>930433
Most younger people are fluent enough in it. The only people who struggle are the elderly, those who went to realschule and dropped out, the Drachenlord-tier, and Ausländer

>>930624
Germans are taught from birth to be ashamed of themselves

>>955242
Yes.

I pray for the day germans stop hating themselves so much

>>957465
Nu uh, not before Hololive ES (hololive Estonia)

Would this girl be a fit for HoloGER?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/925513267

Hololive New Zealand when?

>>958172
When they do, Poland is fucked again.

>>932008
Bud Spencer

>>932008
Literally Hitler.

>>929557
It's gonna be EN filtering all over again

but let's face it, fucking nobody would watch it safe for absolute retards who don't know english and some Wehraboo japanese.

German here btw.
And if that orange cunt is the face of it, I hate it already.

>>959945
Wehraboo VTuber agency is the most brilliant thing I've heard all week. We could even have some males.

>>930542
India has like 13-14 Languages so whatever that VTuber would speak would cause a shitstorm anyways. Sure the market is huge and internet speeds decent enough to watch 320p on phones, but indians love to LARP as english speakers (in fact only 13% speak it) and prefer to consume their own media as well.

Spanish / Portuguese I can see.

>>930603
>>931479
>>958172
>>959975
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>>958148
the Drachenlord-Tier is bigger than you think. Lots of people are giving up on the University Meme and get into crafts again. Some people just want to watch native because they had to talk english all day at international company work. I agree there's bigger markets, but I would also say there is at least something up for grabs here.

Then again, finding Talents will be hell on earth. Weeb women in Goymoney are 90% absolute fucking trash tier. Either cosplay sluts pre-occupied with themselves, or mentally unstable manipulative cunts, or both at the same time. The stable and good ones are usually married early and work part-time.

>>958162
I wish I could disagree but I feel it as well. German entertainment cannot into Zoomer stuff really. Gotta be traditional shit like Karneval or Beer-Stuff, anything else feels fake, american-copied or straight up cringe. Went so far as to learn Japanese for that reason.

>>929878
I'd kill for Hololive Scandiavia with girls from all countries, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, EESTI. We can think about Sweden hard. If they find one in Iceland, unfathomly based. Not only is the flag rare, the people are so absurdly nice.
fuck I'd watch it without understanding a word. My Norwegian V-Tuber Girl streaming with a Pitfire Background talking about northern lights waking her up or some shit or hunting or disgusting fish shit or ice skating.

>>931789
As a linguist, women can just not into linguistics enough to actually properly speak. Same with scriptwriters for dubs, all of them unskilled and directly translating from english, never localizing to an acceptable degree, never actually using real life speech. It all sounds formal and disgusting.

>>937355
Was abroad in Japan for a year, even though I had a roommate from Germany my German got worse because I thought in Japanese for a year.

>>960081
One day anon, I believe in you

>>958129
Typischer Wehraboo, niemand im echten Leben spricht so. Keine Ahnung wie andere Muttersprachler copen dass Entertainment Fake klingt.

Muss aber auch sagen russische Dubs gefallen mir, wahrscheinlich weil ich kein Wort verstehe.

>>959975
no shit, I have two close Japanese Friends learning German. Both of them love Militaria, one of them went so far to get traditional bavarian hunter's wear which is mad expensive. He'd get some views for the novelty because he also bakes German stuff, mostly bavarian. Next time without Italy, he said. Love the guy. Currently learns German.

Takeo Ishi did it and the Germans love him. Old people in Japan randomly talk to you about the war and how much they like you when you reveal that you're german. Had an oji-san sing Erika on a train once out of the blue when he overheard my conversation, turns out he studied in Hamburg.

So yeah, if it's german with japanese subs and vice versa, people would definitely watch.

>>930562
fucking this, i cannot find the words to explain just how cringy GOPs are, you need to be a german native to understand.
there is a reason why i'm here and writing in english instead of posting in german online communities.

>>930562
she sounds much better than the average en vtuber to me. i love her calm way of talking. the soft sounding german is fresh. but idk at all about the gop audience as you mentioned ofc

>>960718
idk bro, Zangendeutsch is kinda funny

>>960081
>pfostieren
bring dich um du schwuchtel

>>930554
Sounds great actually.